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Permanently unloading the usb-storage kernel module under FC3
by Andrew Robert March 30, 2005

March 30, 2005

Hi Everyone, I have a 160G NTFS partitioned USB external disk drive that I would like to use in my VMware instance. I tried to get VMware to recognize the drive but it failed to do so because the Linux USB driver had it locked. Removing and re-attaching the drive did not release the driver lock. What resolved the problem was to unload the usb-storage kernel module using the command: /sbin/rmmod usb-storage This works great but the module reappears the next time I boot the beast. Does anyone know of a way to make this permanently go away? Any help you can provide on this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Andy

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Topic idea
by Mike Leo March 30, 2005

March 30, 2005

Is there any interest in a linux fundamentals talk? It seems like I am the noobi'est member of the lug and don't want to bore everyone, but a discussion around basic installs (partitioning, swap size, boot loaders, etc), upgrades (apt, yum, emerge), application installs (rpm's, source) and kernel patching and upgrades would be a good nights discussion. I don't mind participating in the speaking, but I have plenty of questions myself. Just a thought. Mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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Job Opening: UNIX/Linux SysAdmin
by Theo Van Dinter March 30, 2005

March 30, 2005

Another job opening from my employer, for those interested. Company out of Needham, MA. :) ----- Forwarded message ----- TechTarget is looking to hire a competent linux/unix sysadmin with 1-2 years of production experience. Details on the position are attached. Details on working for TechTarget can be found at http://www.techtarget.com/html/job_opps.htm Please contact me directly with any questions. TechTarget Role Description Position: Systems & Networks Administrator Role Definition: Manage servers and SANs based upon Sun Solaris and RedHat Enterprise Linux as well as the underlying network architecture based upon Cisco and Nortel which drives our network of web sites. Monitor overall performance and capacity, tune system for performance and administer user access, security and back up. Ability to research, plan, and implement new technologies as needed. Three years sysadmin/netadmin experience required. Experience with Veritas NetBackup a plus. Required Competencies: *Strong analytical, teamwork, and problem solving skills *Technical expertise in Sun Solaris, RedHat Linux, general UNIX, IOS, and Apache *Ability to efficiently manage multiple systems and network devices *Ability to implement and plan details of projects *Ability to manage and architect SANs based upon EMC and STK technologies *Ability to multi-task with projects of varying priority Reports To: Director of IT Operations, Product Systems Required Experience: Must have prior responsibility for administration of Solaris, Linux, and IOS. Extraordinary knowledge of installing, upgrading and optimizing Solaris, Linux, SANs, and Cisco equipment within a sophisticated computer network. Ability to manage mail subsystems (sendmail/postfix), DNS (BIND 9), and other day-to-day activities. Initial Mandate: 1.Conduct systems audit, present findings and make recommendations. *Security ? passwords, user accounts, auditing *Analyze configuration parameters ? memory size, system usage, network utilization *Document systems and network configuration 2.Plan and install systems and network hardware, sized and tuned for optimal throughput and reliability. *Evaluate disk spacing and resize/add data files 3.Ensure service performance through established metrics and audits. *Implement upgrade and recovery strategies *Serve as liaison with vendors; report problems and obtain technical solutions *Tune systems and network infrastructure As of 03/29/05 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Thinking of using NT for your critical apps? Isn't there enough suffering in the world?" - Sun Microsystems Ad

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The Technical Professional in 2010
by Al Reinhart March 29, 2005

March 29, 2005

Thought this might be of interest to some of you: On Thursday, April 7^th there is a WPI / IEEE Worcester County Section meeting with Dr. Arthur Winston, 2004 IEEE president, speaking on The Technical Professional in 2010. The presentation, preceded by a reception, starts at 6PM and is followed by dinner at Higgins House. The presentation is free and open to the public, dinner requires a reservation and costs $30.00 for non-IEEE members. You can attend the presentation without going to dinner. Details can be found at http://www.ieeeregion1.org/worcester . Al ------------------------------------------------------------- Al Reinhart Phone: (508) 869-6417 DisCom. Systems EMail: Reinhart(a)DisCom.com www.DisCom.com

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Job Opening: Full-time MySQL/PostreSQL Database Administator Position
by Theo Van Dinter March 25, 2005

March 25, 2005

Since there doesn't seem to be a wlug-jobs list, I'm posting it here. My employer, TechTarget, is looking for a full-time MySQL/PostgreSQL database administrator. Oracle experience is a plus. Below is the role description which has more information. No recruiters need contact me. If there are any questions regarding this position, please email me direct. Details on working at TechTarget can be found here: http://www.techtarget.com/html/job_opps.htm Thank you. :) Position: Database Administrator Role Definition: Manage database content and customer information driving Web-based community features. Monitor database performance and capacity, tune system for performance and administer user access, security and back up. Two years DBA experience required and Apache, Solaris, Linux experience preferred. Required Competencies: * Strong analytical, teamwork, and problem solving skills * Technical expertise in Sun Solaris UNIX, Linux, MySQL, Postgres. Oracle experience not necessary, but considered a plus. * Design of database schemas, including setting up triggers and constraints to ensure integrity, indexing and tuning. * Knowledge in myisam and innodb file structures recommended * Basic understanding of scripting languages Reports To: Director of IT Operations, Product Systems Required Experience: Must have prior responsibility for administration of MySQL, Postgres RDBMS and knowledge of installing, upgrading and optimizing databases within a sophisticated multi-tier computer network. Oracle experience a plus. Initial Mandate: - Conduct database audit, present findings and make recommendations. * Security, passwords, user accounts, auditing * Document and maintain database configuration information * Develop and implement plans for database maintenance and upgrades. * Perform detailed database configurations. * Install, configure and maintain system tools and utilities. * Perform system diagnostics and create resolutions. * Monitor and tune systems for optimal performance. * Document database schema - Plan and install on New Production Servers, sized and tuned for optimal throughput and reliability. * Develop database, objects (tablespaces, tables, indexes, views) * Build and maintain users accounts and database roles * Evaluate disk spacing and resize/add datafiles - Ensure service performance through established metrics and audits. * Implement database and recovery strategies * Serve as liaison with database vendors; report problems and obtain technical solutions * Tune database and handle day-to-day DBA activities

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Free Dlink router
by Mike Leo March 23, 2005

March 23, 2005

Standard shipping is 9-10 bux, but the router is free after mail in rebates http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=… __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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unsubscribe michael.j.mcgurl@intel.com
by Mcgurl, Michael J March 23, 2005

March 23, 2005

Michael J. McGurl Engineering Computing NSEC Intel Massachusetts Voice: 978-553-5607 Pager: 877-406-8919 Cell: 774-230-6967 -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:00 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 15 Send Wlug mailing list submissions to wlug(a)mail.wlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Car pool... (Frank Moody) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:26:09 -0500 From: Frank Moody <fmoody-ug-wlug(a)moodman.org> Subject: [Wlug] Car pool... To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Message-ID: <20050323102609.GD63215(a)moodman.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anybody heading to the WLUG meeting tonight from the Leominster area and wouldn't mind giving me a ride? Car trouble at the last minute (of course.. Most fun that way.) Frank Moody ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug End of Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 15 ************************************

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Car pool...
by Frank Moody March 23, 2005

March 23, 2005

Anybody heading to the WLUG meeting tonight from the Leominster area and wouldn't mind giving me a ride? Car trouble at the last minute (of course.. Most fun that way.) Frank Moody

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REMINDER: WLUG Meeting Wed March 23rd 7:00 PM
by Andy Stewart March 22, 2005

March 22, 2005

HI Everybody, We have a WLUG meeting coming up this week on Wednesday, March 23rd, at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room on the WPI Campus in Worcester, MA USA. At this meeting, yours truly will be giving a talk about how Linux was used to create video DVDs from files created by a TV capture card. In this talk, there will be a demo of simple video editing, creation of the DVD menu, and creation of the DVD files and directory structure. If there is time, we might be visited by Drs. Howard, Fine, and Howard. I'll have two books for the no-cost raffle. Maybe someone will come to the meeting just to try to win one of these: Building Applications with the Linux Standard Base The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System After the meeting, anybody who is intersted can join the crowd for some pizza either across campus or on Highland Street. WLUG meetings are open to the public. There are no admission fees or membership dues. We do accept small donations if you are feeling generous. :-) Soda and cookies will be provided at the meeting. See ya later, Andy (Digital signature intentionally left blank until I figure out how to get Thunderbird 1.0 to use gpg.....enigmail isn't working for me....yet) -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 13
by Raja Mukherjee March 22, 2005

March 22, 2005

Thanks for all the suggestions re. changing default email client - I found the selectable preferences under the Gnome Control Center - couldn't find anything equivlent in the KDE Control Center though. Now all I have to do is figure out how to have the kPilot memos (that I synched from my Visor Prism) to transfer to the Notes module in Kontact Raja Mukherjee

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unsubscribe
by Mcgurl, Michael J March 21, 2005

March 21, 2005

Michael J. McGurl Engineering Computing NSEC Intel Massachusetts Voice: 978-553-5607 Pager: 877-406-8919 Cell: 774-230-6967 -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 12:00 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 13 Send Wlug mailing list submissions to wlug(a)mail.wlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12 (Raja Mukherjee) 2. Re: Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12 (Jared Greenwald) 3. Re: Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12 (Chuck R. Anderson) 4. REMINDER: WLUG Meeting Wed March 23rd 7:00 PM (Andy Stewart) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:23:40 -0500 From: Raja Mukherjee <raja.mukherjee56(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12 To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Message-ID: <5f4be20503201123816c98d(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On a similar note, how does one change the default mail client from Evolution to Kmail? I am using Firefox 1.0.1 as the default browser. The reason I want it to change over is because I have synced my palm to Kontact and want to use Kmail as the mail client, so I can share the contacts lis. Raja Mukherjee _________________________________________________________________ > Today's Topics: > > 1. Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird (Andrew Robert) > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:33:30 -0500 > From: Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> > Subject: [Wlug] Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <423C545A.9080000(a)townisp.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Everyone, > > Last question for awhile. > > I swear. > > Anyway, has anyone had luck configuring Opera to use an alternate mail > client than the native M2? > > I am trying to get it to call Thunderbird but I've had mixed results. > > I reviewed the Opera Support Knowledge base article located at the link > below but nothing I do seems to work. > > http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=472 > > -- > Thank you, > Andrew Robert > Systems Architect > Information Technologies > Massachusetts Financial Services > Phone: (617) 954-5882 > Pager: (781) 945-1742 > E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:38:27 -0500 From: Jared Greenwald <greenwaldjared(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12 To: Raja Mukherjee <raja.mukherjee56(a)gmail.com>, Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Message-ID: <2759cf8605032012387ab9fdce(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Those types of settings are usually part of the window manager. I thnk in KDE its in control center somewhere - or in konqueror where apps association is done. -Jared On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:23:40 -0500, Raja Mukherjee <raja.mukherjee56(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On a similar note, how does one change the default mail client from > Evolution to Kmail? I am using Firefox 1.0.1 as the default browser. > The reason I want it to change over is because I have synced my palm > to Kontact and want to use Kmail as the mail client, so I can share > the contacts lis. > > Raja Mukherjee > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird (Andrew Robert) > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:33:30 -0500 > > From: Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> > > Subject: [Wlug] Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird > > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > Message-ID: <423C545A.9080000(a)townisp.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Last question for awhile. > > > > I swear. > > > > Anyway, has anyone had luck configuring Opera to use an alternate mail > > client than the native M2? > > > > I am trying to get it to call Thunderbird but I've had mixed results. > > > > I reviewed the Opera Support Knowledge base article located at the link > > below but nothing I do seems to work. > > > > http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=472 > > > > -- > > Thank you, > > Andrew Robert > > Systems Architect > > Information Technologies > > Massachusetts Financial Services > > Phone: (617) 954-5882 > > Pager: (781) 945-1742 > > E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:46:15 -0500 From: "Chuck R. Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12 To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Message-ID: <20050321014615.GE29293(a)angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 02:23:40PM -0500, Raja Mukherjee wrote: > On a similar note, how does one change the default mail client from > Evolution to Kmail? I am using Firefox 1.0.1 as the default browser. > The reason I want it to change over is because I have synced my palm > to Kontact and want to use Kmail as the mail client, so I can share > the contacts lis. In Fedora Core 3 there is Preferences -> More Preferences -> Preferred Applications which works for Web Browser, Mail Reader, Text Editor, and Terminal. KMail is among the choices for Mail Reader. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:13:23 -0500 From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> Subject: [Wlug] REMINDER: WLUG Meeting Wed March 23rd 7:00 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Message-ID: <423E2DC3.5030507(a)comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 HI Everybody, We have a WLUG meeting coming up this week on Wednesday, March 23rd, at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room on the WPI Campus in Worcester, MA USA. At this meeting, yours truly will be giving a talk about how Linux was used to create video DVDs from files created by a TV capture card. In this talk, there will be a demo of simple video editing, creation of the DVD menu, and creation of the DVD files and directory structure. If there is time, we might be visited by Drs. Howard, Fine, and Howard. I'll have two books for the no-cost raffle. Maybe someone will come to the meeting just to try to win one of these: Building Applications with the Linux Standard Base The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System After the meeting, anybody who is intersted can join the crowd for some pizza either across campus or on Highland Street. WLUG meetings are open to the public. There are no admission fees or membership dues. We do accept small donations if you are feeling generous. :-) Soda and cookies will be provided at the meeting. See ya later, Andy (Digital signature intentionally left blank until I figure out how to get Thunderbird 1.0 to use gpg.....enigmail isn't working for me....yet) -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug End of Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 13 ************************************

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Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 12
by Raja Mukherjee March 21, 2005

March 21, 2005

On a similar note, how does one change the default mail client from Evolution to Kmail? I am using Firefox 1.0.1 as the default browser. The reason I want it to change over is because I have synced my palm to Kontact and want to use Kmail as the mail client, so I can share the contacts lis. Raja Mukherjee _________________________________________________________________ > Today's Topics: > > 1. Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird (Andrew Robert) > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:33:30 -0500 > From: Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com> > Subject: [Wlug] Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <423C545A.9080000(a)townisp.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Everyone, > > Last question for awhile. > > I swear. > > Anyway, has anyone had luck configuring Opera to use an alternate mail > client than the native M2? > > I am trying to get it to call Thunderbird but I've had mixed results. > > I reviewed the Opera Support Knowledge base article located at the link > below but nothing I do seems to work. > > http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=472 > > -- > Thank you, > Andrew Robert > Systems Architect > Information Technologies > Massachusetts Financial Services > Phone: (617) 954-5882 > Pager: (781) 945-1742 > E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com

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[OT]Yet Another Perl Conference, North America, 2005 Registration now open
by glim＠mycybernet.net March 20, 2005

March 20, 2005

Hello... Here is something for people interested in the Perl programming language. Conference registration for Yet Another Perl Conference North America 2005 has just opened. YAPC is the grass-roots, all-volunteer annual Perl conference. Because it is volunteer-driven it is very affordable. Because the volunteers are passionate about Perl its quality is very high. If this has sparked your interest please take a look at the details here and more details on the conference web site. Have any questions? You can contact the conference organizers by email at: na-help(a)yapc.org Thanks for reading! ----------> Yet Another Perl Conference, North America, 2005 Registration now open. Conference dates: Monday - Wednesday 27 - 29 June 2005 Location: 89 Chestnut Street http://89chestnut.com/ University of Toronto Toronto, Ontario, Canada Info at: http://yapc.org/America http://yapc.org/America/register-2005.shtml Direct registration: http://donate.perlfoundation.org/index.pl?node=registrant%20info&conference… Full registration fee $85 (USD) Book now for great deals on accommodations and ensure a space for yourself. Speaking slots are still open. If you would like to present at YAPC::NA 2005, see: http://yapc.org/America/cfp-2005.shtml Details of this announcement: http://yapc.org/America/registration-announcement-2005.txt <----------

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Opera - tie-ins to thunderbird
by Andrew Robert March 19, 2005

March 19, 2005

Hi Everyone, Last question for awhile. I swear. Anyway, has anyone had luck configuring Opera to use an alternate mail client than the native M2? I am trying to get it to call Thunderbird but I've had mixed results. I reviewed the Opera Support Knowledge base article located at the link below but nothing I do seems to work. http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=472 -- Thank you, Andrew Robert Systems Architect Information Technologies Massachusetts Financial Services Phone: (617) 954-5882 Pager: (781) 945-1742 E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com

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Looking Glass on Fedora Core 3
by Andrew Robert March 18, 2005

March 18, 2005

Hi everyone, I 'm contemplating installing the new Sun Looking Glass 3D desktop on Fedora Core 3. Has anyone had any experience doing this? The instructions located at https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/lg3d-getting-started.html seem pretty straight forward but I was wondering if there were any gotcha's. Likewise, does anyone know of a repository with RPM's for this to make my life easier? Any information you might have on this would be welcome. -- Thank you, Andrew Robert Systems Architect Information Technologies Massachusetts Financial Services Phone: (617) 954-5882 Pager: (781) 945-1742 E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com

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Re: SuSE 9.1 YaST2 online_update problem
by Tom Misilo March 18, 2005

March 18, 2005

You can only upgrade SLES9 if you have the upgrade key from SuSE Themselves I recommend downloading SUSE 9.2 DVD or FTP install if this is only for a personal use OS ~Tom "Hi All, I just installed the SuSE SLES 9 (kernel 2.6.5-7.97). I can't get the 'YOU' utility to work. A box pops up asking for a username/password pair. I have this set up to run automatically every day at 5:00AM, but it fails with an error message "Unable to check for updates". If I run the YOU GUI by hand, a box pops up asking for authentication data (a username and password). During the installation of the O/S, it actually ran YOU successfully and downloaded some updates. I've looked at the /etc/sysconfig/onlineupdate file and I can't see anything obviously wrong. There is a password file in /var/lib/YaST2/you. I've tried using the root password, my personal password, but nothing works. What am I overlooking? Thanks, -Chuck" -- Tom Misilo AIM:Tmisilo FL MSN:tmisilo@gmail.com Jabber:tmisilo@jabber.org Skype: tmisilo

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desklets-daemon will not run - FIXED!
by Ken Jones March 18, 2005

March 18, 2005

I found the answer to my problem in <http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26681&page=4> All I needed to do was to "yum install gnome-python2-gnomevfs.i386" It took a while, but that's alright:-) Thanks everyone. Ken Jones

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Re: Unsuccessfull installation of gDesklets...
by Ken Jones March 17, 2005

March 17, 2005

Before my plea could be published on the WLUG list Jared Greenwald suggested that I look harder for a RPM version of gDesklets. I found one in http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/packages.php It worked! Thanks everyone just for being there. Ken Jones

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Unsuccessful installation of gDesklets
by Ken Jones March 17, 2005

March 17, 2005

You've piqued my interest in gDesklets. I am trying to install it with no success. I am running Fedora Core 3. The README warns me not to attempt to compile this package, but it offers me no alternative. I downloaded, unzipped and tar'd gDesklets-0.34.2.tar.bz2. I ran the configure file. It failed for lack of pygtk-2.0. (see below) I downloaded, unzipped and tar'd pygtk-2.4.1.tar.bz2. This successfully compiled and installed. I even helped by modifying and exporting environmental PKG_CONFIG_PATH But still gDesklets did not. Any ideas? -----snip of command [kjones@kjones-fedora gDesklets-0.34.2]$ ./configure . . checking for pygtk-2.0 >= 2.4.0 pyorbit-2 >= 2.0.1 gnome-python-2.0 >= 2.6.0... Package pygtk-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `pygtk-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'pygtk-2.0' found configure: error: Library requirements (pygtk-2.0 >= 2.4.0 pyorbit-2 >= 2.0.1 gnome-python-2.0 >= 2.6.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. --------------------- I successfully installed pgytk-2.4.1. Here is the last step: [root@kjones-fedora pygtk-2.4.1]# make install Making install in codegen . . make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kjones/downloads/FedoraCore3/pygtk-2.4.1/tests' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kjones/downloads/FedoraCore3/pygtk-2.4.1/tests' [root@kjones-fedora pygtk-2.4.1]# I set PKG_CONFIG_PATH as suggested. [kjones@kjones-fedora pygtk]$ ls $PKG_CONFIG_PATH pygtk-2.0 [kjones@kjones-fedora pygtk]$ echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH /usr/bin/include [kjones@kjones-fedora pygtk]$ Still no good. What do you think? Ken Jones

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SuSE 9.1 YaST2 online_update problem
by Chuck Noyes March 17, 2005

March 17, 2005

Hi All, I just installed the SuSE SLES 9 (kernel 2.6.5-7.97). I can't get the 'YOU' utility to work. A box pops up asking for a username/password pair. I have this set up to run automatically every day at 5:00AM, but it fails with an error message "Unable to check for updates". If I run the YOU GUI by hand, a box pops up asking for authentication data (a username and password). During the installation of the O/S, it actually ran YOU successfully and downloaded some updates. I've looked at the /etc/sysconfig/onlineupdate file and I can't see anything obviously wrong. There is a password file in /var/lib/YaST2/you. I've tried using the root password, my personal password, but nothing works. What am I overlooking? Thanks, -Chuck

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Fetchmail
by Dennis Payne March 17, 2005

March 17, 2005

Such a simple question yet I can't seem to find an answer. I'm trying to use fetchmail to retrieve from a POP3 account. The POP3 server includes mail in the server name (mail.domain.com) The email accounts do not include mail. Unfortunately fetchmail seems to take the supplied username and add the mail server name. So I get foobar(a)mail.domain.com instead of foobar(a)domain.com. (Or foobar@domain.com@mail.domain.com if I try to specify the server name.) Is there an option I need to specify (or maybe upgrade fetchmail)? Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

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Problem starting gdesklets on login
by Andrew Robert March 16, 2005

March 16, 2005

Good morning everyone, I recently installed gdesklets on FC3 and it works fine except it does not start automatically on login. I've tried saving the gnome session but the gdesklets are not captured. I've also tried automatinng the start by adding the call to my .bash_profile file but that doesn't do the trick either. Does anyone know how to overcome this issue? Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. -- Thank you, Andrew Robert Systems Architect Information Technologies - OpenVMS Massachusetts Financial Services Phone: (617) 954-5882 Pager: (781) 945-1742 E-mail: arobert(a)mfs.com

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Intel's HyperTransport
by Gary Hanley March 11, 2005

March 11, 2005

For any of you open-source types that dabble in hardware... So some interesting news is making the rounds today. It seems Intel is developing a competing standard to the tried-n-true open-standard called Hypertransport, which they never liked because they did not create it. Here's the story: http://www.penstarsys.com/#intel_ht Can anyone think of a reason why one should support this disruptive beast by purchasing PCs based on their chips? (Please excuse the partisan rant. I'm an AMD fanboy who hates all things Intel...and news like this is exactly why.) -- Gary

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i686 gcc on fedora or rhel4
by Chuck Haines March 8, 2005

March 8, 2005

Does anyone know if I can get binaries so I can compile for i686 on fedora and / or rhel4. I'm trying to set up distcc, but I need i686 in order for it to work. The machines are more than compatible and I don't know what redhat hasn't finally switched over. I'm not sure I know of a single i386 machine still in use. -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com http://www.maxslack.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

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Re: [Wlug] i686 gcc on fedora or rhel4
by J Schonberg March 8, 2005

March 8, 2005

You may find it easier to just create a symbolic link so that i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc points to the compiler you currently have installed. A script could work too but then you have to make sure that any options used on the command line are passed through the script. A symbolic link may be easier. Jason. --- Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> wrote: > But distcc is the one trying to call i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc. That's > where this problem came in the first place. So unless you can tell > me > how to change it from calling i686 to just calling gcc, I think > I'll > try the shell scripts. > > Chuck > __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/

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WPC54G and Gentoo
by Chuck Haines March 8, 2005

March 8, 2005

Ignore my last email. No sooner had I sent the email out that I got things working. Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com http://www.maxslack.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

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WPC54G and Gentoo
by Chuck Haines March 8, 2005

March 8, 2005

Does anyone here have experience with a Linksys WPC54G and Gentoo? I've installed the ndiswrappers according to the gentoo HOW-TO and installed the correct driver for the wireless card. The card is detected just fine, however when it tries to associate with an AP it always fails. I've tried setting the parameters manually with iwconfig and then running dhcpcd, however it doesn't get an IP. According to iwconfig it is seeing the AP but not pulling an IP. Any help with this would be much appreciated. I'd like to get this running. Thanks, -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com http://www.maxslack.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

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Parking
by Raja Mukherjee March 8, 2005

March 8, 2005

Hi, I am planning to attend the WLUG meeting on March 23. I am a newbie and look forward to being a member of the group. A question - is there disabled parking near the Morgan Hall? The WPI site map didn't show any. Thanks -- Raja Mukherjee Brookfield, MA 01506

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Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 17, Issue 3
by Raja Mukherjee March 7, 2005

March 7, 2005

Hi, I am planning to attend the WLUG meeting on March 23. I am a newbie and look forward to being a member of the group. A question - is there disabled parking near the Morgan Hall? The WPI site map didn't show any. Thanks Raja Mukherjee Brookfield, MA 01506

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SUN/IBM Server Rentals
by Chuck Noyes March 7, 2005

March 7, 2005

Hi All, The company where I work (in Worcester), is interested in renting a SUN server, with a current version of Solaris pre-installed, as well as an IBM box (pSeries or xSeries) running a current version of AIX. We would like to rent the boxes for about 3 months. Does anyone know of a place in the area that does this? Thanks, -Chuck

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Re: [Wlug] Uninstall Suse Linux 8.0
by philrmcss＠netscape.net March 7, 2005

March 7, 2005

Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: >On Sunday 06 March 2005 7:20 pm, philrmcss(a)netscape.net wrote: >> I have installed Suse Linux Home Edition 8.0 on my machine. Something went >> wrong when it installed, and it won't see my mouse. Hence, I can't >> navigate within it. Can anyone tell me how to uninstall it, and restore my >> hard drive to its original configuration, until I can install another >> version? >> >> Thanks >> >> Phil > >Hi Phil, > >If you give us more info, we might be able to help you fix the mouse. What >type of mouse do you have? Is it a PS/2 mouse, a USB interface, or is it >perhaps a serial mouse? Feel free to describe the connector if you're >unsure. > >Later, > >Andy > >-- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA USA >http://www.wlug.org > Andy: Just because I can, I have 3 mouses (mice?) connected to my machine: a PS-2 2-button track-ball wannabe, a USB microsoft thumb-driven trackball, and a USB optical (as opposed to the little ball in the bottom) 3-button mouse. In windows, they all control the cursor quite well. When I try to log in to Linux, the moment that I touch a mouse (even if I only have one -- any one -- mouse connected, my cursor moves extremely rapidly to the top of the screen, and out of sight. My next move is to re-boot and go into Gates-ville. When's the next meeting? Where? I attended a meeting over a year ago, and you'd just moved into that multi-media room. Thanks. Phil __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

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Uninstall Suse Linux 8.0
by philrmcss＠netscape.net March 7, 2005

March 7, 2005

I have installed Suse Linux Home Edition 8.0 on my machine. Something went wrong when it installed, and it won't see my mouse. Hence, I can't navigate within it. Can anyone tell me how to uninstall it, and restore my hard drive to its original configuration, until I can install another version? Thanks Phil __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

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HDTV tuner card
by Chuck R. Anderson March 6, 2005

March 6, 2005

I'm thinking about putting together an order for the pcHDTV HD-3000 PCI NTSC/ATSC tuner card sold here: http://www.pchdtv.com/ It supports Linux (and does not officially support anything BUT Linux), and does not obey the "broadcast flag". It will only be legal to buy such a card until July 1, 2005: http://www.eff.org/broadcastflag/ and it works in MythTV: http://www.mythtv.org/ If people are interested, we can save money by ordering together: "Price reduced to now only $169.98. Volume discounts start on just 2 cards saving $4.98 ea. and $9.98 on 5 or more cards"

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Fwd: Invitation- complimentary Tech Briefing: IBM software for the on demand operating environment in Boston on March 15
by Andy Stewart March 2, 2005

March 2, 2005

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Invitation- complimentary Tech Briefing: IBM software for the on demand operating environment in Boston on March 15 Date: Tuesday 01 March 2005 6:56 pm From: Karen C Lee <leekc(a)us.ibm.com> To: Join us and extend this invitation to your user group members, colleagues, faculty and students for the complimentary IBM Technical Briefing: IBM software for the on demand operating environment in Boston on March 15. Lunch will be provided. Register today at: http://www.ibm.com/developerWorks/offers/techbriefings/ IBM software for the on demand operating environment This full-day briefing will cover the broad scope of IBM's software strategy and how our middleware products work together to deliver the on demand operating environment. It features more than 30 live demonstrations of IBM WebSphere, DB2, Lotus, Tivoli, and Rational products showing how new technologies like service-oriented architecture, business process modeling, enterprise service bus, portal based collaboration, content integration, application development life cycle, and a virtualized I/T infrastructure can deliver the responsiveness and flexibility that today's businesses demand. Learn how IBM middleware capabilities compare to those from Microsoft .NET, SAP NetWeaver and Oracle. This briefing is designed for business managers and IT professionals. If you want to know more about IBM's support for the on demand business, or if you are just trying to understand which vendor offers the best software platform, then don't miss this briefing! cities and dates include: * Boston on March 15 * NYC on March 17 * Chicago on March 22 * Minneapolis on March 24 * Washington, DC on April 5 * Toronto on April 7 Register today at: http://www.ibm.com/developerWorks/offers/techbriefings/ For more information on these briefings or any of the other complimentary developerWorks Live! briefings being offered in various locations worldwide, visit: http://www.ibm.com/developerWorks/offers/techbriefings/ We look forward to seeing you soon. The developerWorks Team. ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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New meeting dates for March/April 2005
by Andy Stewart Feb. 26, 2005

Feb. 26, 2005

HI Everybody, I've just updated the WLUG website. The meeting dates for our next two meetings are: Wednesday, March 23rd Wednesday, April 20th Discussion topics are still TBD. Also, I've just posted Scott Venier's slides from his Vesta talk at the February meeting. Thanks again, Scott! Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Reminder: WLUG Meeting Thursday 7 PM
by Andy Stewart Feb. 16, 2005

Feb. 16, 2005

HI Everybody, Our next WLUG meeting is scheduled for Thursday, February 17th at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. Let's hope it doesn't snow this time....... :-) Our guest speaker will be Scott Venier, a long time WLUG member, who will be discussing Vesta, a software configuration management system. Vesta is a portable SCM system targeted at supporting development of software systems of almost any size, from fairly small (under 10,000 source lines) to very large (10,000,000 source lines). It is both a revision control system and a build system. Vesta provides full automatic dependency detection and guarantees exact repeatability of any build. See ya there! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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RE: [Wlug] Quick Question if anybody knows conserning .ppt and DV D's
by Keller, Tim Feb. 15, 2005

Feb. 15, 2005

The other "kludgy" solution would be to run the slideshow, and then dump the output into a capture card... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Sawyer Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 12:35 PM To: Tom Misilo; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Quick Question if anybody knows conserning .ppt and DVD's The only thing I can think of is to save each frame as a picture. Then burn a picture disc. On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:29:06 -0500, Tom Misilo <tmisilo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I was wondering if anybody knew how I could convert a .ppt Power Point > File into a Movie file (such as .avi .mpg or such) so that it could be > put onto a DVD or VCD > > Thanks, > Tom Misilo > -- > Tom Misilo > Saint Bernard's High School '06 > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Quick Question if anybody knows conserning .ppt and DVD's
by Tom Misilo Feb. 14, 2005

Feb. 14, 2005

I was wondering if anybody knew how I could convert a .ppt Power Point File into a Movie file (such as .avi .mpg or such) so that it could be put onto a DVD or VCD Thanks, Tom Misilo -- Tom Misilo Saint Bernard's High School '06

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Teach an old guy new tricks.
by Ken Jones Feb. 14, 2005

Feb. 14, 2005

I am interested in getting involved in Linux Open Source development. I am a seventy year old retiree. I started programming on the AN/FSQ7 at MIT's Lincoln Laboratory in 1957. (If you read "Computing in the Middle Ages" by Severo Ornstein, I was there.) I finished by professional work life as a Senior Software Engineer at CISCO Systems in 2003. I miss the problem solving and the camaraderie of the work place. I wonder whether I can contribute to the development of Linux. How do I start? Ken Jones

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Meeting POSTPONED
by Andy Stewart Feb. 10, 2005

Feb. 10, 2005

HI gang, My sincere apologies for the late notice, but I just got home and the conditions are deteriorating quickly. The WLUG meeting is postponed until next week Thursday, Feb 17th. Please stay home this evening. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM
by Andy Stewart Feb. 10, 2005

Feb. 10, 2005

HI Everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting which will be held on Thursday, Feb. 10th at 7:00 PM in the usual place. Our guest speaker will be Scott Venier, a long time WLUG member, who will be discussing Vesta, a software configuration management system. Vesta is a portable SCM system targeted at supporting development of software systems of almost any size, from fairly small (under 10,000 source lines) to very large (10,000,000 source lines). It is both a revision control system and a build system. Vesta provides full automatic dependency detection and guarantees exact repeatability of any build. See ya there! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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RE: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM
by Keller, Tim Feb. 9, 2005

Feb. 9, 2005

I wonder how many people are going to show considering NOAA is talking about 20 inches of snow for the area. Also, other than myself, who else intends to attend the Linux World Expo in Boston next week? Later, Tim. _____ From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Schwein Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:21 AM To: andystewart(a)comcast.net; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM Andy For us new guys, where is the "usual place"? Thanks Bob Andy Stewart wrote: HI Everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting which will be held on Thursday, Feb. 10th at 7:00 PM in the usual place. Our guest speaker will be Scott Venier, a long time WLUG member, who will be discussing Vesta, a software configuration management system. Vesta is a portable SCM system targeted at supporting development of software systems of almost any size, from fairly small (under 10,000 source lines) to very large (10,000,000 source lines). It is both a revision control system and a build system. Vesta provides full automatic dependency detection and guarantees exact repeatability of any build. See ya there! Andy _____ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug <http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug>

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Re: RE: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM
by Clint Moyer Feb. 9, 2005

Feb. 9, 2005

Actually, 4 to 8 inches, Chicken Little. http://www.crh.noaa.gov/data/forecasts/showsigwx.php?warnzone=MAZ012&warnco… > > From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> > Date: 2005/02/09 Wed AM 11:18:26 EST > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Subject: RE: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM > > I wonder how many people are going to show considering NOAA is talking about > 20 inches of snow for the area. > > > > Also, other than myself, who else intends to attend the Linux World Expo in > Boston next week? > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > _____ > > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Schwein > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:21 AM > To: andystewart(a)comcast.net; Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thurs 7 PM > > > > Andy > > For us new guys, where is the "usual place"? > > Thanks > > Bob > > Andy Stewart wrote: > > HI Everybody, > > This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting which will be held on > Thursday, Feb. 10th at 7:00 PM in the usual place. > > Our guest speaker will be Scott Venier, a long time WLUG member, who will be > > discussing Vesta, a software configuration management system. > > Vesta is a portable SCM system targeted at supporting development of > software > systems of almost any size, from fairly small (under 10,000 source lines) to > > very large (10,000,000 source lines). It is both a revision control system > and a build system. Vesta provides full automatic dependency detection and > guarantees exact repeatability of any build. > > See ya there! > > Andy > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > <http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug> > > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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CUPS + Accounting System
by Chuck Haines Feb. 2, 2005

Feb. 2, 2005

Does anyone have any experience / know of an accounting system that I can use with CUPS? I'm getting ready to migrate our print server from lprng to cups, but I need a new accounting software. The only one is homebrew, but I'd like to move to something more sophisticated if possible. The only basic needs I have for the accounting system is to set a price per page and have the costs and page counts dumb to MySQL so my web front end will work. Thanks, -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

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Anyone running Linux on Pegasos?
by Pete Wason Feb. 2, 2005

Feb. 2, 2005

Just curious... I have a Peg I, but I'm running MorphOS. Boots in about 4 seconds ;-) Pete Wason

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RE: [Wlug] xbiff
by Martin, Eric J. Feb. 2, 2005

Feb. 2, 2005

what's xbiff? -----Original Message----- From: Bill Mills-Curran [mailto:bill@mills-curran.net] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:47 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] xbiff Now that xbiff is gone (not in fc3), what's a good replacement? I've gotten a lot of good use out of xbiff & use it to notify me about a number of things. I'm surprised it's gone, but I guess it's time to move on. Suggestions? Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Maybe Spam] Re: [Wlug] Anyone running Linux on Pegasos?
by Martin, Eric J. Feb. 2, 2005

Feb. 2, 2005

I put Linux on my Beige G3... -----Original Message----- From: Webmaster [mailto:webmaster@atari-users.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:04 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Maybe Spam] Re: [Wlug] Anyone running Linux on Pegasos? A Pegasos is a PPC based system. MorphOS is somewhat of an Amiga OS clone. The Pegasos has had Linux ported to it. But my question for Pete is.. think Genesi (Pegasos company) will be around a year from now? check out http://www.pegasosppc.com fro info on the board. Rob Mahlert Charles R. Anderson wrote: >On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 07:33:28PM -0500, Pete Wason wrote: > > >>Just curious... I have a Peg I, but I'm running MorphOS. >> >>Boots in about 4 seconds ;-) >> >>Pete Wason >> >> > >What's a Pegasos? > >Looks like we have a volunteer to present at the next meeting :) >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Maybe Spam] Re: [Wlug] Anyone running Linux on Pegasos?
by Martin, Eric J. Feb. 2, 2005

Feb. 2, 2005

it's a version of PPC (PowerPC) -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Anderson [mailto:cra@WPI.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 10:33 PM To: Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Maybe Spam] Re: [Wlug] Anyone running Linux on Pegasos? On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 07:33:28PM -0500, Pete Wason wrote: > Just curious... I have a Peg I, but I'm running MorphOS. > > Boots in about 4 seconds ;-) > > Pete Wason What's a Pegasos? Looks like we have a volunteer to present at the next meeting :) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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PSC1210 and CUPS server
by Chuck Haines Feb. 1, 2005

Feb. 1, 2005

I just recently decided to put my PSC1210 on my linux server so I could share it with other people. I installed it using cups just fine, it's prints beautiful from the linux machine. However when I try and install the printer from Windows, it asks me for the INF file to install the driver. Not unfortunately HP doesn't include this INF, as they want you to install all their crap. I was curious if anyone else had any experience with this. Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

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KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group
by Matt Higgins Jan. 31, 2005

Jan. 31, 2005

I am attempting a minimal fc3 install <500 MB, I was shooting for <200MB. Looking at the @core package group from comps.xml. My calculations show this group to be about 130MB and its description tag reads "<description>Smallest possible installation</description>". However the "Minimal Install" from the installer is about 530MB. With some research it looks like, the minimal install is not just @core but also @base and @dialup. I can easily exclude @dialup by setting the uservisible tag to true and unselecting this package group. When I try the same for @base it does not show up in the package selection list? So my questions are these 1. Is it possible though some ks syntax to exclude a default package group from my kickstart config ? i.e. -@ PackageGroup ? If this were possible I may be able to try -@base and -@dialup leaving only @core. 2. Is it possible to not use any package group at all and simply select the packages I want ? In this case I would just list out all the rpms in the @core group and thats it .. possibly some extras. 3. Is there a way to create your own core package group.. this would sever the same purpose as number 2 but possibly make it more flexible. Note I know you can create your own extra package groups my goal is to modify the existing @core group. Some other things to note.. I have to use Fedora and I would like to have the kickstart totally unattended. I basically have the install unattended with PXE,TFTP,NFS,DHCP but .. I need to tweak the packages. -Matt

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xbiff
by Bill Mills-Curran Jan. 31, 2005

Jan. 31, 2005

Now that xbiff is gone (not in fc3), what's a good replacement? I've gotten a lot of good use out of xbiff & use it to notify me about a number of things. I'm surprised it's gone, but I guess it's time to move on. Suggestions? Thanks, Bill

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[OT] Yet Another Perl Conference North America 2005 announces call-for-papers
by glim＠mycybernet.net Jan. 29, 2005

Jan. 29, 2005

YAPC::NA 2005 (Yet Another Perl Conference, North America) has just released its call-for-papers; potential and aspiring speakers can submit a presentation proposal via: http://yapc.org/America/cfp-2005.shtml The dates of the conference are Monday - Wednesday 27-29 June 2005. The location will be in downtown Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Note that a different date block was previously announced, but has been moved to accomodate venue availability.) The close of the call-for-papers is April 18, 2005 at 11:59 pm. If you have any questions regarding the call-for-papers or speaking at YAPC::NA 2005 please email na-author(a)yapc.org We would love to hear from potential sponsors. Please contact the organizers at na-sponsor(a)yapc.org to learn about the benefits of sponsorship. Other information regarding the conference (e.g. venue, registration specifics) will be announced soon. We look forward to your submissions and a great conference!

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Mailing list server upgrade
by Frank Sweetser Jan. 27, 2005

Jan. 27, 2005

The server that hosts the WLUG mailing list will be upgraded today from RH9 to FC3, so the mailing list will be temporarily unavailable. All subscriptions and configuration should remain unchanged. I'll send out another email to the list when the upgrade is complete. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

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Wireless and FC3
by Mike Leo Jan. 26, 2005

Jan. 26, 2005

I have a new Dell D400 with a Broadcom 4309 wireless card and I have installed FC3 and ndiswrapper. I have installed the "correct" Windows .inf file and everybody is happy. when I iwlist wlan0 scan, it lists all the WAP's I can see correctly. However, I cannot get an IP address via DHCP, and assigning one staticaly does not work. When i dhclient wlan0, it finds the WAP, and the DHCP server, but refuses to accept an IP. My guess is that the ndiswrapper "trick" isn't working for this driver. Any thoughts? Thanks Mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Websphere MQ Messaging
by Andrew Robert Jan. 25, 2005

Jan. 25, 2005

Hi Everyone, If anyone is interested, I've been compiling some documentation on IBM WebSphere MQ Messaging for the Unix/Linux environment. You can find it on my web site located at http://shardservant.no- ip.info:8080 . -- Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com>

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samba printer config
by Bill Mills-Curran Jan. 24, 2005

Jan. 24, 2005

I'm floundering trying to get my fedora 3 machine to act as a print server for an WinXP machine. The linux box is freshly built, and I just moved my printer from my redhat 9 machine. What works: 1. Local printing. It's a USB printer, and it worked just fine from the CUPS setup. What doesn't: 1. I can't "add printer" on the WinXP machine. 2. When I start the smb daemon, I get the following in the smbd log: [2005/01/22 18:14:51, 0] printing/nt_printing.c:nt_printing_init(383) nt_printing_init: error checking published printers: WERR_ACCESS_DENIED This looks like the problem to me, but I'm not sure. When I try to add the printer in WinXP, I get a popup "Windows cannot connect to the printer. Operation could not be completed." So, I'm stuck. (And under pressure -- my wife can't print!) Any advice? Thanks, Bill

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Re: [Wlug] audio on new machine
by Keller, Tim Jan. 24, 2005

Jan. 24, 2005

Well... it's not being utterly depreciated, it's being superseded with "udev". Basically, the /dev directory has become dynamic. http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev.html Explains it quite nicely. Tim. On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 23:01 -0500, Keith Wright wrote: > > From: Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> > > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 09:50:22AM -0500, Keller, Tim wrote: > > > > > > You do realize that the /dev/ stuff is being progressively > depreciated... > > > Tim. > > > > Yeah, I've read about /dev going away, but I have no experience > with > > the replacement. > > > > BTW, you guys on WLUG are a tremendous resource. > > > > Bill > > Oh No! Don't let /dev go away! > > One of the first things I ever did with my first Linux system back in > 1996 was accidentally delete /dev. The result was just horrible; > I don't think I can take that again. > > Seriously, I haven't heard that /dev is deprecated. > Who deprecates it? Where can I read about it going away? > I assume the deprecator has a new plan well documented somewhere... > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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LTSP Linux Administration.
by Patrick Sawyer Jan. 22, 2005

Jan. 22, 2005

Howdy, We at the Worcester Computer Co-Op had an install fest a while ago where a few people said they might be able to do some administration for us. If anyone is still up to the task we would very much appreciate it. This is what we need. 1.Updating our network with new software (this can probably be done remotely?) 2.Getting more machines on the network( we have a strange system, but have 30 computers which are exactly the same and could be used for for the network. if someone could figure out how to get one on the network we could easily get all of them) Thanks to all who have helped in the past your time made it possible to give 10 computers to 10 families!!!! Patrick Sawyer Worcester Computer Co-Op

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Linux driver contract opening in MA
by John Spencer Jan. 21, 2005

Jan. 21, 2005

Hello to All, My client has a new opening for a SR LEVEL Linux drivers contractor in northern MA. The details are as follows: Description Develop hardware drivers and diagnostics in an embedded Linux environment. We are looking for someone with extensive experience with embedded Linux and writing hardware device drivers. Good communications skills are essential to this position. Skills Experience with - Writing device drivers under Linux - Motorola/IBM (PowerPC) CPUs - Ethernet switches - PCI bridges - DSP devices - 'C' programming - Responsible for drivers to interface hardware to application software Please call me or email me to discuss your background and this opening in more detail. Please note your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. Regards, John John Spencer (978) 256-1113 ext 108 jspencer(a)optimaleng.com OPTIMAL ENGINEERING PARTNERS "Your Optimal partner for real-time, embedded and systems development expertise" www.optimalengineering.com

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RE: [Wlug] networking for dummies
by Martin, Eric Jan. 21, 2005

Jan. 21, 2005

That could be a dhcp issue.... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Avedissian Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:57 PM To: perryand(a)yahoo.com; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] networking for dummies I've never messed with wireless (yet) but my first thought would be to try it with a wire, and see if you can get to the internet. That would rule out a bunch of stuff. I'm using SuSe 9.1 and 8.2 on different boxes, and they both connected easily to the internet. One thing I've noticed, and I don't know why, sometimes I have to turn off susefirewall and then turn right back on to connect to the network. Greg Andrew Perry wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a wireless network established at home using > > the latest version of a certain very widely used > operating system whose name I dare not speak. I've > been trying for years to "convert" to Linux, mostly > for ideological reasons, but without much luck. > I've succesfully installed a few distributions of > Linux > onto various PC's (mostly older), and I can play > CD's and use office software with no problem. > > The real deal-breaker (the reason I haven't started > using linux except as a novelty) is that I've never > gotten the internet to work with Linux. With that > other OS, installation of a wireless adapter is easy, > and the OS generally recognizes it instantly. Are > there any linux distros that will do the same thing > (perhaps in conjunction with certain wireless > adapters) ? > > Right now I have SUSE 9.1 (Home) running, and > when I plug in a USB wireless adapter, nothing > happens, and I can't figure out what to do. > > Any advice will be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Andrew > > ===== > -Dr. Andrew B. Perry > Assistant Prof. of Mathematics, Springfield College > 263 Alden St., Springfield MA 01109 > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] free tek340/350/360 ink cartridges
by Martin, Eric Jan. 21, 2005

Jan. 21, 2005

Have some of those at my work...those are wax, right? -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Mildram Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:24 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] free tek340/350/360 ink cartridges Corporate antics....i.e. someone left behind (for me to get rid of or trash) mass quantities of new INK colorstix/cartridges for a Tektronix Phaser 340/350/360 printer....which I've never seen. If you have such a beast, reply to me for free supplies! After this hail mary fails, I'll email the BBLISA list..... --doug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] networking for dummies
by Martin, Eric Jan. 21, 2005

Jan. 21, 2005

What chipset is the wireless card? -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Perry Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:50 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] networking for dummies Hi All, I have a wireless network established at home using the latest version of a certain very widely used operating system whose name I dare not speak. I've been trying for years to "convert" to Linux, mostly for ideological reasons, but without much luck. I've succesfully installed a few distributions of Linux onto various PC's (mostly older), and I can play CD's and use office software with no problem. The real deal-breaker (the reason I haven't started using linux except as a novelty) is that I've never gotten the internet to work with Linux. With that other OS, installation of a wireless adapter is easy, and the OS generally recognizes it instantly. Are there any linux distros that will do the same thing (perhaps in conjunction with certain wireless adapters) ? Right now I have SUSE 9.1 (Home) running, and when I plug in a USB wireless adapter, nothing happens, and I can't figure out what to do. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks, Andrew ===== -Dr. Andrew B. Perry Assistant Prof. of Mathematics, Springfield College 263 Alden St., Springfield MA 01109 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] free tek340/350/360 ink cartridges
by Keller, Tim Jan. 20, 2005

Jan. 20, 2005

If I were you, I wouldn't just give those away... Tektronix printers are notoriously expensive... i.e our printer here costs a 1.50 everytime you hit the print button (but it'll print poster quality images) you might have good luck selling them on Ebay... Tim. On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 15:23 -0500, Doug Mildram wrote: > Corporate antics....i.e. someone left behind (for me to get rid of or > trash) > mass quantities of new INK colorstix/cartridges > for a Tektronix Phaser 340/350/360 printer....which I've never seen. > > If you have such a beast, reply to me for free supplies! > After this hail mary fails, I'll email the BBLISA list..... > --doug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Live Distro with VPN support
by Sean Flynn Jan. 20, 2005

Jan. 20, 2005

I apologize if this has already been discussed, but after some cursory googling and searching I haven't found an answer yet. I am the "computer guy" for our heating oil company. The heating oil software is running on a SCO box, and everyone in the office connects to it over our Windows network. After hours people need to connect to the SCO box to check customer information. Currently they do it through their own windoze PCs with their own high speed internet, or through a company laptop through dial up. Using their own high speed access makes things much quicker and we have subsidized access for some of the people. But since it is windows, their PCs are often screwed up, and I get many after hours calls saying, "I can't connect to the VPN or I can't connect to the Internet". I have played with Knoppix and absolutely love how it can recognize hardware, and I have installed Suse on a home system to play with for myself, but I have little knowledge of Linux. Is their a live CD like Knoppix that has microsoft VPN support, that the remote users can pop it in their system, restart, connect to the microsft VPN and open a terminal window to the SCO box? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Sean Flynn

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key mapping on Fedora 3
by Bill Mills-Curran Jan. 20, 2005

Jan. 20, 2005

I'm a little surprised at the differences in default key mappings in F3 as compared to RH9. Maybe it's just me, but my old key mappings are "implanted" and so automatic that's it's unpleasant to adjust. One thing I miss is the ability to make the default edits act like emacs. In particular, RH9 had an option on the keyboard shortcuts to select either "gnome defaults" or "emacs". When I selected "emacs", that affected mozilla/firefox, so that traditional shortcuts (like <ctrl>u deleting all text on the URL box or a text entry box) worked like the "old days". Is there another way to do this, or do I need to learn new shortcuts? TIA, Bill

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Fwd: SearchEnterpriseLinux.com article on Red Hat Linux v.4
by Andy Stewart Jan. 20, 2005

Jan. 20, 2005

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi WLUG, Does anybody in the group have anything they'd like to contribute to this News Writer? If so, please mail him directly. Thanks! Andy - ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: SearchEnterpriseLinux.com article on Red Hat Linux v.4 Date: Wednesday 19 January 2005 1:45 pm From: "Loftus, Jack" <JLoftus(a)techtarget.com> To: <andystewart(a)comcast.net> Hello Andy, My name is Jack Loftus, and I am a News Writer with SearchEnterpriseLinux.com, a web site with the TechTarget media company, based in Needham, Mass. I'm writing your group today with the hope that you or one of your members could comment for a story I am writing on the upcoming release of Red Hat Linux 4. While an exact date is not yet available for publication, it is "rumored" to be at the same time as LinuxWorld Boston in February (February 14). If you are able to comment, you can call me at the number below up until 5 p.m. EST, or if you cannot reach me or are short on time, you can answer the general questions I have provided below, or add any additional comments you feel are important. I appreciate your time and look forward to speaking with you. Even if no member of your organization uses or has used Red Hat, I'd still appreciate your comments. * What are you looking for from this version? If you don't plan on taking a look at it, why not? * Does the fact that the 2.6 kernel is fully supported by v.4 give this version any clout, or is it just a case of "finally Red Hat has caught up to supporting the 2.6 kernel? (Novell has had them beat since August) * As users of Linux, is this version something that has been desired/needed? A "milestone" as it has been reported by some? * Does this version have the clout to get Linux widespread attention on the desktop, and not just the server space? Thanks again, Jack Loftus News Writer SearchEnterpriseLinux.com TechTarget Phone: 781-657-1557 Toll Free: 888-274-4111 x1557 TechTarget The Most Targeted IT Media www.TechTarget.com - ------------------------------------------------------- - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB7xBXHl0iXDssISsRAlXFAJ9TTtFubREpRe7m39X0UKL1X5jDOACfckfS XGC1vKMkTGGFuiB5hJMxF5M= =KrjI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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networking for dummies
by Andrew Perry Jan. 20, 2005

Jan. 20, 2005

Hi All, I have a wireless network established at home using the latest version of a certain very widely used operating system whose name I dare not speak. I've been trying for years to "convert" to Linux, mostly for ideological reasons, but without much luck. I've succesfully installed a few distributions of Linux onto various PC's (mostly older), and I can play CD's and use office software with no problem. The real deal-breaker (the reason I haven't started using linux except as a novelty) is that I've never gotten the internet to work with Linux. With that other OS, installation of a wireless adapter is easy, and the OS generally recognizes it instantly. Are there any linux distros that will do the same thing (perhaps in conjunction with certain wireless adapters) ? Right now I have SUSE 9.1 (Home) running, and when I plug in a USB wireless adapter, nothing happens, and I can't figure out what to do. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks, Andrew ===== -Dr. Andrew B. Perry Assistant Prof. of Mathematics, Springfield College 263 Alden St., Springfield MA 01109

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free tek340/350/360 ink cartridges
by Doug Mildram Jan. 19, 2005

Jan. 19, 2005

Corporate antics....i.e. someone left behind (for me to get rid of or trash) mass quantities of new INK colorstix/cartridges for a Tektronix Phaser 340/350/360 printer....which I've never seen. If you have such a beast, reply to me for free supplies! After this hail mary fails, I'll email the BBLISA list..... --doug

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RE: [Wlug] Best Buy -- weird packing
by Simoncini, Matthew Jan. 19, 2005

Jan. 19, 2005

I've been sort of keeping an eye on this thread and if someone has suggested this, please don't flame me, but why not just call BB and ask them what to do? > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org > [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Mills-Curran > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:38 PM > To: Justin Odom; Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Best Buy -- weird packing > > This isn't just heavy bubble pack -- This is a rigid plastic > (about 1/8" thick) with a hinged top. The top doesn't open > by any obvious means. The the top is opaque grey plastic, > and there's a metal mechanism inside. (A magnet is attracted > to it.) I'm guessing that a sufficiently strong magnet would > release a latch/interlock to allow easy opening. > > I'm sure it was a mistake that they didn't remove the memory > package (a normal cardboard retail shelf packaging) from this > "armored box", because most people would not be able to get > it open. I'm going to use my cutoff saw to attack it. > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 10:19:45PM -0500, Justin Odom wrote: > > slice it with a razor blade on back, they wont charge you > if you want > > to return it. > > > > I worked at that horrible place for over a year :-p > > > > > > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:23:59 -0800 (PST), Mike Leo > <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I think they do that so you can't return it opened and > not be charge > > > some fee for damaging the package....but then again, I > always think > > > the man is trying to keep me down! > > > > > > --- Marc Hughes <marc.hughes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I wonder what the relative melting points of plastic > and silicon > > > > are... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:47:10 -0500, Bill Mills-Curran > > > > <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > > > > > Along with my new computer, my wife also picked up > > > > some memory for me. > > > > > It's in the bullet-proof plastic case. I'm > > > > assuming that they made a > > > > > mistake and meant to take the memory (with it's > > > > normal cardboard > > > > > packaging) out of this tough plastic. There's no > > > > non-destructive way > > > > > to open this plastic case without destroying it. > > > > > > > > > > Comments? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wlug mailing list > > > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wlug mailing list > > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? > > > http://my.yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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RE: [Wlug] Best Buy -- weird packing
by Martin, Eric Jan. 18, 2005

Jan. 18, 2005

That sounds like a security box that you need a special lock for...surprised you got that out of the store -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Mills-Curran Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:38 PM To: Justin Odom; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Best Buy -- weird packing This isn't just heavy bubble pack -- This is a rigid plastic (about 1/8" thick) with a hinged top. The top doesn't open by any obvious means. The the top is opaque grey plastic, and there's a metal mechanism inside. (A magnet is attracted to it.) I'm guessing that a sufficiently strong magnet would release a latch/interlock to allow easy opening. I'm sure it was a mistake that they didn't remove the memory package (a normal cardboard retail shelf packaging) from this "armored box", because most people would not be able to get it open. I'm going to use my cutoff saw to attack it. On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 10:19:45PM -0500, Justin Odom wrote: > slice it with a razor blade on back, they wont charge you if you want > to return it. > > I worked at that horrible place for over a year :-p > > > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:23:59 -0800 (PST), Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > I think they do that so you can't return it opened and > > not be charge some fee for damaging the package....but > > then again, I always think the man is trying to keep > > me down! > > > > --- Marc Hughes <marc.hughes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I wonder what the relative melting points of plastic > > > and silicon are... > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:47:10 -0500, Bill > > > Mills-Curran > > > <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > > > > Along with my new computer, my wife also picked up > > > some memory for me. > > > > It's in the bullet-proof plastic case. I'm > > > assuming that they made a > > > > mistake and meant to take the memory (with it's > > > normal cardboard > > > > packaging) out of this tough plastic. There's no > > > non-destructive way > > > > to open this plastic case without destroying it. > > > > > > > > Comments? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wlug mailing list > > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? > > http://my.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Best Buy -- weird packing
by Simoncini, Matthew Jan. 18, 2005

Jan. 18, 2005

Yeah it's more fun to take a "laser" and cut through the damned plastic, but you never know, maybe they have some tech guys that are evil doctors and will throw you a bone. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Mills-Curran Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:20 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Best Buy -- weird packing Sorry Justin, I meant to reply to Matt's comment. Bill On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 08:19:08AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Gee, Justin, where's the fun in that? :-) > > Actually, it's easier to saw it off than it is to go to Best Buy. > Also, they're a nasty bunch when it looks like you're trying to do > something out of the ordinary. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd > claim I stole it if I went back to the store, even though I have a > receipt. > > I had a huge hassle returning a video game that I bought for my son. > The game would not work on the system we had (video card issues), even > though the box didn't list any limitations. Because we opened the > box, they were not going to accept a return. I had to get real > insistent. > > The only reason I have something from Best Buy is because my wife > bought it. I'm won't go there if I have any choice. > > Bill > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 07:09:40AM -0500, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > > I've been sort of keeping an eye on this thread and if someone has > > suggested this, please don't flame me, but why not just call BB and > > ask them what to do? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org > > > [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Mills-Curran > > > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:38 PM > > > To: Justin Odom; Worcester Linux Users Group > > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Best Buy -- weird packing > > > > > > This isn't just heavy bubble pack -- This is a rigid plastic > > > (about 1/8" thick) with a hinged top. The top doesn't open by any > > > obvious means. The the top is opaque grey plastic, and there's a > > > metal mechanism inside. (A magnet is attracted to it.) I'm > > > guessing that a sufficiently strong magnet would release a > > > latch/interlock to allow easy opening. > > > > > > I'm sure it was a mistake that they didn't remove the memory > > > package (a normal cardboard retail shelf packaging) from this > > > "armored box", because most people would not be able to get it > > > open. I'm going to use my cutoff saw to attack it. > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 10:19:45PM -0500, Justin Odom wrote: > > > > slice it with a razor blade on back, they wont charge you > > > if you want > > > > to return it. > > > > > > > > I worked at that horrible place for over a year :-p > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:23:59 -0800 (PST), Mike Leo > > > <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > I think they do that so you can't return it opened and > > > not be charge > > > > > some fee for damaging the package....but then again, I > > > always think > > > > > the man is trying to keep me down! > > > > > > > > > > --- Marc Hughes <marc.hughes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder what the relative melting points of plastic > > > and silicon > > > > > > are... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:47:10 -0500, Bill Mills-Curran > > > > > > <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Along with my new computer, my wife also picked up > > > > > > some memory for me. > > > > > > > It's in the bullet-proof plastic case. I'm > > > > > > assuming that they made a > > > > > > > mistake and meant to take the memory (with it's > > > > > > normal cardboard > > > > > > > packaging) out of this tough plastic. There's no > > > > > > non-destructive way > > > > > > > to open this plastic case without destroying it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Wlug mailing list > > > > > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Wlug mailing list > > > > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? > > > > > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wlug mailing list > > > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wlug mailing list > > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] audio on new machine
by Keller, Tim Jan. 18, 2005

Jan. 18, 2005

Bill, In regards to your issue with /dev/cdrom Your /etc/fstab doesn't have something like this in in it.. ... /dev/hdc /media/cdrecorder auto pamconsole,fscontext=system_u:object_r:removable_t,exec,noauto,managed 0 0 ... You do realize that the /dev/ stuff is being progressively depreciated... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Bill Mills-Curran Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:38 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] audio on new machine Happy Birthday to me! My wife couldn't stand me whining about my old machine, so she picked up a demo emachines for my birthday from Best Buy. I just finished installing fedora core 3, and I'm having a few problems with the audio. 1. The audio test worked fine during the installation, and the "soundcard detection" menu pick still works fine. 2. When I play an audio CD, I have a couple of problems. a. There is no /dev/cdrom device. I made a sym link, but that disappears during reboot. What's the right way to get it in place & stay? b. The permissions on the cd player (/dev/hdc) are 600. I changed them to 666 so I could use the player, but, like the symlink (above), this change does not survive the reboot. Again, what's the right solution? Once I do a & b, then I can see that the cd is playing. With "grip", I can see that it's even getting the names of the tracks. Very cool. 3. No sound. I've played plenty with gnome-volume-control, but no sound. I don't even get anything from the headphone jack on the front panel. Some futher diagnostics: From soundcard detection: Detect sound device Vendo: Intel Model: Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller Module: snd-intel8x0 When I run gnome-cd I get: ** (gnome-cd:3579): WARNING **: Generic IO error >From /etc/modprobe.conf: <snip> alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 options snd-card-0 index=0 install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/m <snip> > lsmod snd_intel8x0 34829 3 snd_ac97_codec 64401 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_pcm_oss 47609 0 snd_mixer_oss 17217 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 97993 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 29765 1 snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 9673 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm gameport 4801 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_mpu401_uart 8769 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_rawmidi 26725 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 8137 1 snd_rawmidi snd 54053 13 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_ mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device soundcore 9889 2 snd $ ll mixer crw------- 1 bcurran root 14, 0 Jan 14 22:39 mixer Even after changing these permissions, I get no sound. Can anyone offer suggestions? Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Best Buy -- weird packing
by Bill Mills-Curran Jan. 18, 2005

Jan. 18, 2005

Along with my new computer, my wife also picked up some memory for me. It's in the bullet-proof plastic case. I'm assuming that they made a mistake and meant to take the memory (with it's normal cardboard packaging) out of this tough plastic. There's no non-destructive way to open this plastic case without destroying it. Comments? Thanks, Bill

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audio on new machine
by Bill Mills-Curran Jan. 18, 2005

Jan. 18, 2005

Happy Birthday to me! My wife couldn't stand me whining about my old machine, so she picked up a demo emachines for my birthday from Best Buy. I just finished installing fedora core 3, and I'm having a few problems with the audio. 1. The audio test worked fine during the installation, and the "soundcard detection" menu pick still works fine. 2. When I play an audio CD, I have a couple of problems. a. There is no /dev/cdrom device. I made a sym link, but that disappears during reboot. What's the right way to get it in place & stay? b. The permissions on the cd player (/dev/hdc) are 600. I changed them to 666 so I could use the player, but, like the symlink (above), this change does not survive the reboot. Again, what's the right solution? Once I do a & b, then I can see that the cd is playing. With "grip", I can see that it's even getting the names of the tracks. Very cool. 3. No sound. I've played plenty with gnome-volume-control, but no sound. I don't even get anything from the headphone jack on the front panel. Some futher diagnostics: From soundcard detection: Detect sound device Vendo: Intel Model: Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller Module: snd-intel8x0 When I run gnome-cd I get: ** (gnome-cd:3579): WARNING **: Generic IO error >From /etc/modprobe.conf: <snip> alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 options snd-card-0 index=0 install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/m <snip> > lsmod snd_intel8x0 34829 3 snd_ac97_codec 64401 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_pcm_oss 47609 0 snd_mixer_oss 17217 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 97993 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 29765 1 snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 9673 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm gameport 4801 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_mpu401_uart 8769 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_rawmidi 26725 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 8137 1 snd_rawmidi snd 54053 13 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device soundcore 9889 2 snd $ ll mixer crw------- 1 bcurran root 14, 0 Jan 14 22:39 mixer Even after changing these permissions, I get no sound. Can anyone offer suggestions? Thanks, Bill

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Re: audio on new machine
by albutler33＠netscape.net Jan. 15, 2005

Jan. 15, 2005

b. The permissions on the cd player (/dev/hdc) are 600. I > changed them to 666 so I could use the player, but, like the > symlink (above), this change does not survive the reboot. > Again, what's the right solution? As root try changing the permissions to 755,which would give you read-execute permission (owner has write permission also).You've got them set as read-write for owner,group and other.After all, I doubt that you can write to a read only device. Al Butler __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

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Linuxworld
by Mike Leo Jan. 15, 2005

Jan. 15, 2005

I lost the thread about the linuxworld trip since I didn't think i was going, now I am.... Anyone going all 4 days? Was there a commutting option? Ya'll just taking the train, etc,etc,etc... I get to go all 4 days on the company's credit card! Hope there is good stuff down there. Anyone ever been before? Is it worth dragging a laptop down there for 4 days? Will I get beat up if I bring a windows laptop? Is there any 1 thing I should be sure to see? see ya! Mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com

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WLUG trip to Linuxworldexpo?
by Keller, Tim Jan. 14, 2005

Jan. 14, 2005

Hey All... I'm planning on attending Linux world expo (the free part) and I was wondering if anybody else would be interested in meeting up in Worcester and taking the commuter rail in. I was thinking of maybe going on Feb 16th. Thanks, Tim.

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presentation slides for this evening's talk
by Jeff Moyer Jan. 13, 2005

Jan. 13, 2005

I've uploaded them to the following place: http://segfault.dhs.org/~phro/netdump_crash.pdf Export to pdf got rid of bullets, but it's mostly readable. -Jeff

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FC-3 cd's tonight
by Jeff Moyer Jan. 13, 2005

Jan. 13, 2005

Does anyone want me to burn CD's for them? I'll plan on bringing 3 sets, complete with the source cd's. Let me know if you have a special request. Off list response is preferable. -Jeff

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Clustering
by Jared Greenwald Jan. 13, 2005

Jan. 13, 2005

Are there any people on this list that have experience with Linux clustering? In particular, Oracle RAC on Linux (9i/10g) - though I'll take general info as well. :) I have experience with UNIX clustering through a product called TruClusters (for Tru64 UNIX), but I'm changing directions and looking at Linux (and RAC in particular). I'm sorta new to the list and my Linux experience up till this point has been purely on the user end of things - setting up/maintaining my home network and a desktop here and there. I've been a user space developer for Tru64 and HP-UX (with Compaq and HP, respectively) in cluster technology and moving to Linux is a new career direction... Any info or contacts would be appreciated. Thanks. Jared Greenwald

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Upcoming meeting: Thurs Jan 13th
by Andy Stewart Jan. 12, 2005

Jan. 12, 2005

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Its time once again for our monthly WLUG meeting. On Thursday, Jan 13th, Jeff Moyer from RedHat will talk to the group about netdump/crash, which are tools for kernel debugging. Here are a couple of URLs to get you acquainted with the meeting topic: http://www.redhat.com/support/wpapers/redhat/netdump/ http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/netdump.8.html The meeting time is 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room at WPI. Directions can be found on the WLUG website. See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB5HRFHl0iXDssISsRAj4EAJ9wWdfdcXPpb1SMNQoKkQGxEI+HfACeOSFg x0DaZJ1WF9A3ld6iJfFcziA= =JpX/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting: Jan 13th
by Andy Stewart Jan. 11, 2005

Jan. 11, 2005

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 January 2005 8:35 am, Jeff Moyer wrote: > > andystewart> Of the three topics you mentioned, I think that the kernel > andystewart> debugging one might be of the most interest. However, I have > andystewart> a hard time crashing a Linux kernel. :-) > andystewart> If its too late, I'll understand. > > It's not too late. That's two votes for the netdump/crash talk. > > I'm curious, why didn't you CC the list? Probably because I was half asleep when I replied. Shall we proceed with the netdump/crash talk? Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4zeHHl0iXDssISsRAocJAJ9iSd6X4QQ0+KhEtOA8Sy18pqdwbACfV+Ec kU9GuLEYEWjrf3PuECXJYno= =xRAx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Upcoming meeting: Jan 13th
by Andy Stewart Jan. 10, 2005

Jan. 10, 2005

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, We have a WLUG meeting coming up on Thurs Jan 13 - any thoughts on what topic we should explore? Or more to the point - any volunteers? :-) Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB3NoVHl0iXDssISsRAjByAJ9emZO3gA+52yQ0dBLhMmSBvWTxNQCfcKRO diTNYvQe9uG7zOGE6NSFikY= =1oes -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RE: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting: Jan 13th
by Minkov, Ross Jan. 10, 2005

Jan. 10, 2005

Jeff, "netdump/crash - tools for kernel debugging" sounds interesting to me. Thanks, Ross -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Moyer Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 9:28 AM To: andystewart(a)comcast.net; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting: Jan 13th ==> Regarding [Wlug] Upcoming meeting: Jan 13th; Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> adds: andystewart> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 andystewart> HI gang, andystewart> We have a WLUG meeting coming up on Thurs Jan 13 - any andystewart> thoughts on what topic we should explore? Or more to the andystewart> point - any volunteers? :-) I can present on one of a few topics: autofs - the Sun automounter netdump/crash - tools for kernel debugging programming with the Linux Asynchronous I/O subsystem (AIO) - I can go into detail on the internals for RH 2.4 kernels, but I havne't come up to speed on how things are done in 2.6 just yet. Please let me know if you would like me to present fairly soon, as I don't have a prepared talk on any one of the subjects. -Jeff _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples
by Martin, Eric Jan. 7, 2005

Jan. 7, 2005

I always thought it was that and some mobile processor goodies (low power consumption, etc) Eric Martin Worcester Public Schools -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Hughes Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:15 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:41:32 -0500 (EST), Gary Hanley <gary(a)hanley.net> wrote: > On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, Brian Waite wrote: > > True. However Intel is doing quite well with "Centrino" and I'd bet > most people who buy "Centrino" have no idea what it is. (No one here, > of > course!) > Isn't it just built in 802.11b? If not.. then, yeah lousy marketing =) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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cheap Compaq at Staples
by Bill Mills-Curran Jan. 5, 2005

Jan. 5, 2005

Staples has a low-priced machine advertised in the Globe: $199.94 for a Compaq Presario with an AMD Sempron processor. Any idea how this might work with Linux? I picked up a cheap Compaq at Walmart a year ago, and I returned it because it was such a dog. TIA, Bill

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lock down /etc
by Justin Odom Dec. 31, 2004

Dec. 31, 2004

Not sure if anyone has experience with this, but I would like to lock down the /etc directory so common users cannot run through the directory and read all the files. However, programs still need to be able to read the files to work. I'm trying to do this because we have several users on our system that like to peruse the files within /etc. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks for your help, Justin

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Trouble with SATA DVD burner
by Andy Stewart Dec. 28, 2004

Dec. 28, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI all, I'm having problems with an SATA DVD burner (Plextor 712). I can't get Linux to see it. Any advice you might offer would be appreciated. Kernel 2.6.10 x86_64 The (I think) salient portion of /var/log/messages is shown below. I get this when I "modprobe sata_via": amdtux kernel: libata version 1.10 loaded. amdtux kernel: sata_via version 1.0 amdtux kernel: sata_via(0000:00:0f.0): routed to hard irq line 10 amdtux kernel: ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xB800 ctl 0xBC02 bmdma 0xC800 irq 20 amdtux kernel: ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xC000 ctl 0xC402 bmdma 0xC808 irq 20 amdtux kernel: ata1: dev 0 cfg 49:0f00 82:0000 83:0000 84:0000 85:0000 86:0000 87:0000 88:0407 amdtux kernel: ata1: dev 0 ATAPI, max UDMA/33 amdtux kernel: ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/33 amdtux kernel: scsi3 : sata_via amdtux kernel: ata2: no device found (phy stat 00000000) amdtux kernel: scsi4 : sata_via The chipset is VIA VT8237. The rest of the system: MB = MSI K8T Master2 FAR (2xOpteron 244) adaptec 29160 with 1 scsi disk atapi dvdrom sata plextor 712 crappy pci-based sound card ATI Radeon 7500 onboard Gb ethernet onboard usb Another data point: I booted KNOPPIX V3.6 (kernel 2.6.7), in the hope that its generally good hardware detection might make this device magically work. It notices the drive quite nicely and tries to make it available as "hde" (as seen in dmesg). However, once KNOPPIX comes up, I cannot successfully do anything with the drive. I'll burn a KNOPPIX V3.next CD and try this to see if the result changes (since that CD will probably have a more recent kernel). This gives me some hope that this device *might* work with Linux. FYI: When buying HW to build this system, I ordered the Plextor 712 ATAPI version, figuring I'd have trouble like this with SATA. The vendor shipped me the SATA drive at the cheaper ATAPI price...go figure. Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB0PNqHl0iXDssISsRAu8KAJ96wviwjcevfQqRMfoy4fhldIP8OACfWdfQ zlGuL+Wtv9B0iej751ZqPLo= =gRGH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] Trouble with SATA DVD burner
by Charles R. Anderson Dec. 28, 2004

Dec. 28, 2004

On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 12:06:49PM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: > Well, I got it working with SuSE's kernel version 2.6.5-7.111.19-smp, but that > doesn't explain to me why I can't make it work with a stock 2.6.10 kernel. > Now I'm hitting the "kernel madness" which broke CD/DVD burning for all but > the root user. I believe it was 2.6.8+ that changed the way cd burning (SCSI generic or ATAPI SG_IO) support worked. This was done to fix some security issues where a user could e.g. reflash the firmware on your drives, rendering them toasters. There is now some SCSI command filtering done to prevent such things. Fedora has pretty much abandoned ide-scsi and has switched instead to the SG_IO API directly on the underlying ATAPI device. This allows applications to send SCSI Generic commands by using the ATAPI device instead of the SG device which required the ide-scsi hack for ATAPI devices. I know this change broke a lot of things, mainly people's expectations on which device to use with cdrecord et al. It is now as simple as: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc or similar.

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Proliant 1600 for sale
by Mike Leo Dec. 28, 2004

Dec. 28, 2004

I go back and forth on this, but I have a Compaq Proliant 1600, dual 450 (or 500, i forget), with 6 18gig drives, plus an F1 full of 18gig drives, plus some spares. I can also put in a DLT drive. It runs fine, but is loud. I go back and forth with wanting to sell it 'cause I didn't think anyone would be interested. But is anyone? $600 for the whole shabang. I can get more specific specs once I get home. I can bring it to a lug meeting, or can arrange shipping. Let me know... Mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com

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Sun's x86 Strategy
by Gary Hanley Dec. 23, 2004

Dec. 23, 2004

Hello all. I came across this article today that some might find interesting. It touches on Sun's disadvantage with regard to Solaris development costs compared to Linux and how it plans to deal with that, as well as the probable demise of UltraSparc. http://www.techuser.net/sunx86.html -- Gary

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yum repository for Aurora?
by Bill Smith Dec. 23, 2004

Dec. 23, 2004

Would anyone here HAPPEN to know of any yum repositories for Aurora Linux (Sparc flavor, 1.0 is based on RH 7.3, 1.9x is based on Fedora)? I've been looking for a repository for upgrading my 1.0 installation to the latest 1.91/1.92, but I cannot find an up-to-date repository. 8( (For anyone that's curious, I'm running Aurora on my Sparc Ultra60...) Any assistance would be greatly appreciated... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "Uncouple faith from truth altogether, and bad things can happen. People come to believe without truth, and then the truth becomes something nobody will believe." -- Charles P. Pierce (in 'The Truth About Polygraphs', 2003/10/03 edition of Boston Globe Magazine, p18) * TAG! v3.1a *

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Items available to good home
by Theo Van Dinter Dec. 12, 2004

Dec. 12, 2004

On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 08:35:29PM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: > The next WLUG meeting will be held on Wednesday, December 15th at 7:00 PM. Hey everyone. Sorry to go off-topic for a minute, but I'm going to be moving in the near future, and have a lot of items which need a new home. With the upcoming WLUG meeting (which I'm planning to attend), it seemed like a good time to post the list. :) If you're interested in any of the items, I'll be happy to bring them out to Worcester on Wednesday, and you can get them after the meeting. The list is available at: http://www.kluge.net/stuff/ -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Don't tell my kids I'm going to jail! Tell them I joined the Blue Man Group ... I'm the fat one!" - Homer Simpson, A Star is Born Again

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Reminder: Guest Speaker 'maddog'
by Andy Stewart Dec. 11, 2004

Dec. 11, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, The next WLUG meeting will be held on Wednesday, December 15th at 7:00 PM. Our guest speaker will be Jon 'maddog' Hall, the Executive Director of Linux International, and his topic will be: "The Many Ways of Making Money with Free and Open Source" Details about the talk, and some biographical information about our speaker, can be found on the WLUG home page. maddog is a great speaker who has spoken at several WLUG meetings in the past. His talks are always quite informative and entertaining, and the response from the WLUG membership has been overwhelmingly positive. There is a reasonable probability that the meeting location will move. If so, I'll let you know, and I'll also have a sign posted at the Access Grid room if we do move elsewhere on campus. For now, assume that we'll be in the usual place. Bring your friends! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBuP1hHl0iXDssISsRAkHHAJ9n3VutYSp/NYpLuE3aktHJ7nQWwQCeOfRX GZS/95jLP0UPNadePoV63Xo= =NEY4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Big Package
by Chuck Haines Dec. 10, 2004

Dec. 10, 2004

Can anyone suggest a really big package to compile on a Sun 64 bit operton machine? We just got a new one and I want to test it out. CH -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity http://www.tkezm.org WPI Class of 2005 http://www.wpi.edu ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

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Printing problems
by Don Peterson Dec. 1, 2004

Dec. 1, 2004

Hi All, I am having trouble when printing big batches of documents, these are over 20 pages. Everything starts off fine, but then printing stops usually around page 18 to page 22. If I reprint the batch a different number of pages will print, but never all of them. Like I said I usually get anywhere between 18 to 22 pages. I've noticed if I restart the lpd service I can get the batch to reprint fully once. But then when the next batch prints I start having trouble again. Does anyone know if there is a spool limit with lpd? I know you are going to say use CUPS, but I don't want to mess around with my production servers if I don't have to. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanx, Don

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PCI-X under Linux
by Carlton C. Stedman II Nov. 29, 2004

Nov. 29, 2004

I was just wondering if anyone had any success using PCI-X/PCI-Express cards under linux. I was looking through the kernel and don't see any specific settings strictly for PCI-X bus. I wonder if they *just work* with PCI support enabled, as AGP does. I'm specifically interested if anyone has got hardware 3D acceleration working with a PCI-X video card. I'm looking at getting a mid-range NVidia card, since their drivers are at least useable under linux, compared to the atrocious performance and glitches the ATI proprietary drivers have (and the open drivers being worked on are not overly worried with the card I have, and the R300 driver doesn't have any sort of 3D acceleration right now). As far as I can understand from the docs on nvidia's website, it seems like it'll just work, but was interested if anyone had any success. In particular I'm looking at the nvidia 6600gt series. Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks. CCS -- Carlton C. Stedman II, sageman(a)wpi.edu "To iterate is human, to recurse, divine." -- L. Peter Deutch

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Linux Job Opportunity
by Andy Stewart Nov. 24, 2004

Nov. 24, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, I am posting this for a technical recruiter. If you have interest in the position, or know someone who does, please contact the recruiter directly. ====start===== My name is Tom Di Filippo. I am a technical recruiter in the Boston area. I am conducting a confidential search for one of my client companies that is specifically looking for several Software Engineers with desktop Linux experience. Below is a brief overview of what they are looking for. If you or any of your colleagues are interested in hearing more about these opportunities please contact me directly. Thank you in advance for your help. Senior/Principal Engineer, Linux Client (positions at various levels) * Will design and implement portable runtime environment on a Linux desktop platform * Experience with any of the following: Java, Swing, JNI, C++, MFC, ATL, COM, ActiveX. * IE Browser Control and/or Mozilla Geiko engine. * Embedding Media Players into client applications. * Multithreading, X Windows Window Manager development. * Linux device driver development and integration Kind regards, Thomas Di Filippo Market Manager, Client Services (IT and Engineering Staffing) Kforce Professional Staffing 20 Mall Road, Suite 400 Burlington, MA 01803 (781) 359-1707 tdifilippo(a)kforce.com ====end===== - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBo9GsHl0iXDssISsRArtgAKCBx+gDu6gDgUsuz0o1/eONNVa9wwCeKR3r +c2BVq+82puWli3hzTODygU= =Y8uw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Linksys WPC11 v3 Wireless Card in SuSE 9.1
by Chuck Haines Nov. 16, 2004

Nov. 16, 2004

Has anyone gotten a WPC11 ver 3 wireless card to work in suse 9.1? YaST detects the card, however I cannot get it to use WEP correctly and since both WPI and my home network require it, I'm outta luck right now. Any help with this would be much appreciated. Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity http://www.tkezm.org WPI Class of 2005 http://www.wpi.edu ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 -------------------------------------------

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[jmorris@redhat.com: Linux Journal Article]
by Charles R. Anderson Nov. 13, 2004

Nov. 13, 2004

----- Forwarded message from James Morris <jmorris(a)redhat.com> ----- From: James Morris <jmorris(a)redhat.com> To: selinux(a)tycho.nsa.gov Cc: fedora-selinux-list(a)redhat.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 21:48:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Linux Journal Article Message-ID: <Xine.LNX.4.44.0411122147260.7482-100000(a)thoron.boston.redhat.com> Reply-To: "Fedora SELinux support list for users & developers." <fedora-selinux-list(a)redhat.com> What's New in Fedora Core 3 SE Linux By Faye Coker http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/7887 -- James Morris <jmorris(a)redhat.com> -- fedora-selinux-list mailing list fedora-selinux-list(a)redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list ----- End forwarded message -----

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Website whoopsies...
by Keller, Tim Nov. 9, 2004

Nov. 9, 2004

I won't be able to make it to the meeting because 'm not sure what day "Thursdayday" is... :-) Also the link at the bottom to St IgnuCIUS is broken... Later, Tim.

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JOB Opening Linux (UML) skills needed
by John Spencer Nov. 9, 2004

Nov. 9, 2004

Hello All, I am doing some networking for an opening I have in northern MA/southern NH. I currently need the following: Sr. level engineer with extensive experience with Linux to work with their application software development team. My client is simulating multiple embedded cards using User Mode Linux (UML) sessions for each processor. Experience with: -User Mode Linux (a must) -Networking experience (a must) -Embedded and host Linux -Writing device drivers under Linux a strong plus -C/C++ programming If you are interested and qualified for this role, please call me or send me an email with your resume so I can contact you with the details. I will not send your resume anywhere without talking to you first. Regards, John John Spencer (978) 256-1113 ext 108 jspencer @ optimaleng.com OPTIMAL ENGINEERING PARTNERS "Your Optimal partner for real-time, embedded and systems development expertise" www.optimalengineering.com Regards, John John Spencer (978) 256-1113 ext 108 jspencer(a)optimaleng.com OPTIMAL ENGINEERING PARTNERS "Your Optimal partner for real-time, embedded and systems development expertise" www.optimalengineering.com

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REMINDER: WLUG Meeting - Thursday!
by Andy Stewart Nov. 9, 2004

Nov. 9, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Everyone, We'll be having our next WLUG meeting on Thursday, November 11th at 7:00 PM in the usual place. Chuck Anderson is going to talk to us rather informally (a la the Gentoo meeting) about what is new and different in Fedora Core 3. He'll also have a PC or two for a live demo. Coming in December: Our guest speaker at the December 15th meeting will be Jon 'maddog' Hall. If you never come to another WLUG meeting, be sure you make it to this meeting! maddog is a fantastic speaker that you don't want to miss. He has spoken at several WLUG meetings in the past and the feedback has been universally positive. Please see the WLUG website for more details about maddog's talk. Starting in January 2005: It looks like our meeting location will be used for a class on Wednesday evening. It may be possible for us to find another location on campus for our Wednesday meetings. Another possibility is to have occasional meetings on Monday evening. Right now, we alternate between Wednesday and Thursday evening. I know that if we changed to Mon/Thurs meeting nights, some folks would like it and others would not. There's really no way to make everybody happy here, except perhaps to find another campus location for Wednesday evening meetings. Stay tuned...nothing is definite yet. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBkAlbHl0iXDssISsRAtpNAJ4393ZnBSizHZIWrUK0KTx3YOV/7gCfd1lL oPBP1OtzG93IQVrlPYQ7QNU= =QKLg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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SSH stops working?
by Skip Gaede Nov. 8, 2004

Nov. 8, 2004

Hi Folks, I have both Linux and WXP on my home machine and do remote maintenance on a Linux gateway. The linux gateway is configured for doing IPSEC as well as SSH. Some time in the past few months, SSH has ceased to work between both WXP and Linux on my system and the remote gateway. I have not changed anything on either end, as far as I can remember. What's strange is that I can setup an IPSEC tunnel to the gateway, and do SSH to the gateway from the local subnet (my IPSEC IP is 168.192.1.128 and I can SSH to 192.168.1.1). If anyone has any suggestions on how to debug this, I'm all ears. Thanks, Skip

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Re: Announcing the release of Fedora Core 3
by Jeff Kinz Nov. 8, 2004

Nov. 8, 2004

On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 12:32:40PM -0500, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > If anyone wants FC3, you can get it here: > > http://download.wpi.edu/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/3/ > Just downloaded the FC3 ISO's from above. In an effort to pay it forward a few of you can now download them from: http://www.kinz.org/FC3Isos.html discs 2 and 3 are coming. See the Release Notes in the previous email -- Linux/Open Source. Your base belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ "Last one into space is a rotten egg!" <a href=http://kinz.org>http://kinz.org</a> Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. ~ ~ ~ ~

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nvidia & digital (?) output
by Bill Mills-Curran Nov. 8, 2004

Nov. 8, 2004

Can anyone point me in the right direction for configuring my nvidia card to use the digital output? I just unboxed an LCD monitor, and I'd like to try the digital video. Is it just a reboot? Should I expect much (any?) difference. Thanks, Bill

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[notting@redhat.com: Announcing the release of Fedora Core 3]
by Charles R. Anderson Nov. 8, 2004

Nov. 8, 2004

If anyone wants FC3, you can get it here: http://download.wpi.edu/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/3/ Release Notes below: ----- Forwarded message from Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> ----- From: Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> To: mirror-list(a)redhat.com Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:13:22 -0500 Subject: Announcing the release of Fedora Core 3 Message-ID: <20041108161322.GA18989(a)nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Precedence: junk Reply-To: mirror-list-d(a)redhat.com, fedora-list(a)redhat.com The Fedora Project and Red Hat would like to announce the third release of Fedora Core. Fedora Core 3 is a general purpose Linux operating system, available for x86 and x86-64 processors. Fedora Core 3, includes: - the 2.6.9 Linux kernel - Xorg 6.8.1 - GNOME 2.8 - KDE 3.3.0 - GCC 3.4 - SELinux The Fedora Project would like to thank the thousands of community members whose testing and contributions have raised the bar of quality and made this release possible. What is the Fedora Project? The Fedora Project is a Red Hat-sponsored and community-supported open source project that promotes rapid development of innovative open source software through a collaborative, community effort. Fedora Core 3 provides a complete Linux platform built exclusively from open source software. Available at no cost, the release serves the needs of community developers, testers, and other technology enthusiasts who wish to participate in and accelerate the technology development process. As a community forum for advanced development, the Fedora Project provides early visibility to the latest open source technology and serves as a proving ground for technology that may eventually make its way into Red Hat's fully-supported commercial solutions such as Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Red Hat contributes development resources, editorial direction and management to the Fedora Project. For more information, see http://fedora.redhat.com/ How Can I Get Fedora Core 3? Fedora Core 3 x86 or x86-64 Downloads are available from: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/ or from the network of mirrors in the Fedora Project distribution system. Users may prefer to download Fedora Core via BitTorrent, or via older file retrieval protocols such as HTTP, FTP, or RSYNC. BitTorrent typically provides faster download speeds than HTTP, FTP, or RSYNC. BitTorrent RPMS for Red Hat Linux and Fedora Core are available with detailed instructions at http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/ From Red Hat: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ Via BitTorrent: http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/heidelberg-binary-i386.torrent http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/heidelberg-binary-x86_64.torrent http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/fedora-torrent/heidelberg-binary-i386-iso.torrent http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/fedora-torrent/heidelberg-binary-x86_64-iso.torr… See http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/ or http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/fedora-torrent/ for other forms. Via HTTP/FTP/RSYNC from mirrors: * North America: * USA: * ftp://fedora.cat.pdx.edu/linux/core/3 * http://fedora.cat.pdx.edu/linux/core/3 * rsync://fedora.cat.pdx.edu/fedora-linux-core/3 * ftp://mirror.stanford.edu/pub/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/3 * http://mirror.stanford.edu/fedora/linux/core/3 * rsync://mirror.stanford.edu/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/3 * ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/3/ * ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/3/ * rsync://mirror.hiwaay.net/fedora-linux-core/3/ * ftp://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/3 * http://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/3 * rsync://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/fedora-linux-core/3 * ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/3 * http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/3 * rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/3 * http://fedora.glorb.com/core/3 * ftp://ftp.ale.org/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/3 * http://ftp.ale.org/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/3 * http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * ftp://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * rsync://mirror.linux.duke.edu/fedora-linux-core/3/ * ftp://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/3/ - Hawaii Only * ftp://redhat.secsup.org/pub/linux/redhat/fedora/core/3 * http://redhat.secsup.org/fedora/core/3 * rsync://fedora.secsup.org/core/3/ * ftp://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/3 * http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/core/3 * ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/core/3 * rsync://rsync.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/fedora-linux-core/3 * ftp://mirror.newnanutilities.org/pub/fedora/linux/core/3 * http://mirror.newnanutilities.org/pub/fedora/linux/core/3 * ftp://ftp.dc.aleron.net/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://ftp.dc.aleron.net/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/3/ * ftp://ftp.net.usf.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/3 * Canada: * ftp://less.cogeco.net/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://less.cogeco.net/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * ftp://ftp.nrc.ca/pub/systems/linux/redhat/fedora/linux/core/3/ * rsync://ftp.nrc.ca/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/fedora/linux/core/3/ * ftp://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/fedora/linux/core/3/ * rsync://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://gulus.USherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/fedora/linux/core/3/ * ftp://ftp.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://www.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * rsync://rsync.muug.mb.ca/fedora-linux-core/3/ * South America: * Chile: * ftp://ftp.tecnoera.com/pub/fedora/linux/3/ * http://ftp.tecnoera.com/pub/fedora/linux/3/ * rsync://ftp.tecnoera.com/pub/fedora/linux/3/ * ftp://mirror.netglobalis.net/pub/fedora/core/3/ * http://mirror.netglobalis.net/pub/fedora/core/3/ * Brazil: * ftp://ftp.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/fedora/core/3/ * http://www.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/fedora/core/3/ * rsync://rsync.las.ic.unicamp.br/fedora-linux-core/3 * Europe: * Austria: * ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/3/ * http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/3/ * rsync://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/3/ * Czech Republic: * ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/3/ * http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/3/ * rsync://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/fedora/fedora/3/ * ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/3/ * rsync://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/3/ * ftp://ftp6.linux.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/3/ (IPv6) * ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/3/ * ftp://ftp1.skynet.cz/pub/linux/fedora/3/ * Denmark: * ftp://klid.dk/fedora/linux/core/3 * http://klid.dk/homeftp/fedora/linux/core/3/ * Estonia: * ftp://redhat.linux.ee/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://redhat.linux.ee/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * Finland: * ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * ftp://ftp.ipv6.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://ftp.ipv6.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * France: * ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/3/ * http://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/3/ * ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/3/ * http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/3/ * ftp://ftp.proxad.net/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://ftp.crihan.fr/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/core/3 * ftp://ftp.crihan.fr/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/core/3 * rsync://ftp.crihan.fr/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/core/3 * Germany: * ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/3/ * http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/3/ * ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/Mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/linux/core/3/ * http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/Mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/linux/core/3/ * rsync://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/fedora.redhat.com/linux/core/3 * http://download.atrpms.net/mirrors/fedoracore/3/ * ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/pub/linux/Mirror/ftp.redhat.com/fedor… * ftp://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/3/ * rsync: ftp.join.uni-muenster.de::fedora/linux/core/3/ * ftp://ftp.stw-bonn.de/pub/mirror/fedora/linux/core/ * Greece: * ftp://ftp.otenet.gr/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/3/ * Ireland: * http://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/cor… * ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core… * rsync://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/co… * ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * rsync://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * Netherlands: * ftp://alviss.et.tudelft.nl/pub/fedora/core/3/ * ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/fedora/3/ * http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/fedora/3/ * rsync://ftp.nluug.nl/Fedora/3/ * ftp://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/fedora/3/ * http://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/fedora/3/ * rsync://ftp.surfnet.nl/Fedora/3/ * ftp://ftp.quicknet.nl/pub/Linux/download.fedora.redhat.com/3 * ftp://ftp.tudelft.nl/d1/Linux/download.fedora.redhat.com/3/ * Norway: * ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/linux/Fedora/core/3/ * rsync://ftp.uninett.no/fedora-linux-core/3/ * Poland: * ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/3/ * rsync://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/3/ * ftp://ftp.wsisiz.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/3/ * ftp://ftp.ps.pl/pub/linux/fedora-core/3 * http://ftp.ps.pl/pub/linux/fedora-core/3 * Portugal: * ftp://ftp.di.fct.unl.pt/pub/linux/fedora/3/ * http://ftp.di.fct.unl.pt/pub/linux/fedora/3/ * Romania: * ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/pub/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/core/3/ * http://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/core/3/ * rsync://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/fedora-core/core/3/ * ftp://ftp.lug.ro/fedora/linux/core/3 * http://ftp.lug.ro/fedora/linux/core/3 * Russia: * http://ftp.chg.ru/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/3/ * ftp://ftp.chg.ru/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/3/ * Spain: * ftp://ftp.udl.es/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://ftp.udl.es/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * rsync://ftp.udl.es/fedora/linux/core/3/ * ftp://ftp.cica.es/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://sunsite.rediris.es/mirror/fedora.redhat/3 * ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/fedora.redhat/3 * Slovenia: * http://mirrors.bevc.net/fedora/core/3/ * ftp://ftp.bevc.net/mirrors/fedora/core/3/ * Sweden: * ftp://ftp.chl.chalmers.se/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * United Kingdom: * http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/li… * ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/lin… * rsync://rsync.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora… * Asia/Pacific: * Australia: * http://planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * rsync://rsync.planetmirror.com/fedora-linux-core/3/ * ftp://ftp.netcraft.com.au/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * China: * ftp://ftp.hostrino.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * http://ftp.hostrino.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/ * Japan: * ftp://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/fedora/core/3/ * http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/fedora/core/3/ * rsync://ftp.riken.jp/fedora/core/3/ * ftp://download.sfc.wide.ad.jp/pub/Linux/Fedora/3/ * http://download.sfc.wide.ad.jp/pub/Linux/Fedora/3/ * ftp://ftp.kddialbs.jp/Linux/packages/fedora/core/3/ * http://ftp.kddialbs.jp/Linux/packages/fedora/core/3/ * rsync://ftp.kddilabs.jp/fedora/core/3/ * New Zealand: * ftp://ftp.wicks.co.nz/pub/linux/dist/fedora/3/ * Taiwan: * http://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Fedora/linux/core/3 * ftp://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Fedora/linux/core/3 More mirrors will come on line as time passes; please see http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html for a list of mirrors that carry Fedora Core. Fedora Core 3 Release Notes Copyright (c) 2004 Red Hat, Inc. Permission is granted to copy, distribute, and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is available at [1]http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl.html. This document may be copied and distributed in any medium, either commercially or non-commercially, provided that the GNU Free Documentation License (FDL), the copyright notices, and the license notice saying the GNU FDL applies to the document are reproduced in all copies, and that you add no other conditions whatsoever to those of the GNU FDL. Red Hat, Red Hat Network, the Red Hat "Shadow Man" logo, RPM, Maximum RPM, the RPM logo, Linux Library, PowerTools, Linux Undercover, RHmember, RHmember More, Rough Cuts, Rawhide and all Red Hat-based trademarks and logos are trademarks or registered trademarks of Red Hat, Inc. in the United States and other countries. The Fedora trademark is a trademark of Red Hat, Inc. in the United States and other countries. Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds. All other trademarks and copyrights referred to are the property of their respective owners. The GPG fingerprint of the "Fedora Project <fedora(a)redhat.com>" key is: CA B4 4B 99 6F 27 74 4E 86 12 7C DF B4 42 69 D0 4F 2A 6F D2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Introduction The Fedora Project is an openly-developed project designed by Red Hat, open for general participation, led by a meritocracy, and following a set of project objectives. The results from this project include Fedora Core, a complete, general-purpose operating system built exclusively from open source software. Note Fedora Core is not a supported product of Red Hat, Inc. For more information, refer to the Fedora Project overview later in this document. The following topics related to Fedora Core 3 are covered in this document: o Introduction (this section) o Hardware requirements o Overview of this release o Installation-related notes o Package-specific notes o Packages added/removed/deprecated o An overview of the Fedora Project Hardware Requirements The following information represents the minimum hardware requirements necessary to successfully install Fedora Core 3. Note The compatibility/availability of other hardware components (such as video and network cards) may be required for specific installation modes and/or post-installation usage. CPU Requirements This section lists the CPU specifications required by Fedora Core 3. Note The following CPU specifications are stated in terms of Intel processors. Other processors (notably, offerings from AMD, Cyrix, and VIA) that are compatible with and equivalent to the following Intel processors may also be used with Fedora Core. o Minimum: Pentium-class Fedora Core 3 is optimized for Pentium 4 CPUs, but also supports earlier CPUs (such as Pentium, Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Pentium III, and including AMD and VIA variants). This approach has been taken because Pentium-class optimizations actually result in reduced performance for non-Pentium-class processors, and Pentium 4 scheduling is sufficiently different (while making up the bulk of today's processors) to warrant this change. o Recommended for text-mode: 200 MHz Pentium-class or better o Recommended for graphical: 400 MHz Pentium II or better Hard Disk Space Requirements This section lists the disk space required to install Fedora Core 3. Note The disk space requirements listed below represent the disk space taken up by Fedora Core 3 after the installation is complete. However, additional disk space is required during the installation to support the installation environment. This additional disk space corresponds to the size of /Fedora/base/stage2.img (on CD-ROM 1) plus the size of the files in /var/lib/rpm on the installed system. In practical terms, this means that as little as an additional 90MB can be required for a minimal installation, while as much as an additional 175MB can be required for an "everything" installation. Also, keep in mind that additional space will be required for any user data, and at least 5% free space should be maintained for proper system operation. o Custom Installation (Minimal): 620MB o Server: 1.1GB o Personal Desktop: 2.3GB o Workstation: 3.0GB o Custom Installation (Everything): 6.9GB Memory Requirements This section lists the memory required to install Fedora Core 3. o Minimum for text-mode: 64MB o Minimum for graphical: 192MB o Recommended for graphical: 256MB Overview of This Release The following list includes brief summaries of some of the more significant aspects of Fedora Core 3: o Fedora Core 3 contains the following changes: o GCC 3.4 o GNOME 2.8 o KDE 3.3 o SELinux -- This includes a new "targeted" policy that monitors specific daemons with less intrusion than the strict policy in use before. This policy is enabled by default. For more information, refer to: [2]http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq/ o Indic language support o Firefox and Mozilla can be enabled with pango rendering support, which enables many text layout features, including the rendering of CTL (Complex Text Layout) such as Indic languages. To enable this, set the following environment variable when running Firefox or Mozilla: MOZ_ENABLE_PANGO=1 o Kernel and e2fsprogs support for online growing of ext3 file systems o Various desktop-related features, including, but not limited to: o Remote desktops using VNC ([3]http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-June/msg00007.html) o Printing improvements ([4]http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2004-June/msg00370.html) o Evolution 2.0 Note VMware WS 4.5.2 is known to work on Fedora Core 3 after the following workarounds are used: o You must upgrade the kernel modules and configuration using the unofficial vmware-any-any-* toolkit available from: [5]http://platan.vc.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/ o After vmware-config.pl is run and the VMware modules are loaded, the following command creates the /sys/class/* nodes needed for udev: cp -rp /dev/vm* /etc/udev/devices/ Installation-Related Notes This section outlines those issues that are related to Anaconda (the Fedora Core installation program) and installing Fedora Core 3 in general. Note If you intend to download the Fedora Core 3 DVD ISO image, keep in mind that not all file downloading tools can accommodate files larger than 2GB in size. For example, wget will exit with a File size limit exceeded error. The curl and ncftpget file downloading tools do not have this limitation, and can successfully download files larger than 2GB. Anaconda Notes o The Fedora Core installation program has the ability to test the integrity of the installation media. It works with the CD, DVD, hard drive ISO, and NFS ISO installation methods. Red Hat recommends that you test all installation media before starting the installation process, and before reporting any installation-related bugs (many of the bugs reported are actually due to improperly-burned CDs). To use this test, type linux mediacheck at the boot: prompt. o Memory testing may be performed prior to installing Fedora Core by entering memtest86 at the boot: prompt. This causes the Memtest86 standalone memory testing software to run. Memtest86 memory testing continues until the Esc key is pressed. NOTE: You must boot from CD-ROM 1 (or a rescue CD-ROM) in order to use this feature. o Fedora Core 3 supports graphical FTP and HTTP installations. However, due to the necessity of containing the installer image in RAM, only systems with more than 128MB of RAM (or systems booted from CD-ROM 1, which contains the installer image) can use the graphical installer. Systems with 128MB or less will continue to use the text-based installer. Installation-Related Issues o Certain hardware configurations (particularly those with LCD displays) may experience problems while starting the Fedora Core installation program. In these instances, restart the installation, and add the "nofb" option to the boot command line. NOTE: Chinese, Japanese, and Korean graphical installations started using the "nofb" option will start in English, and then switch to the appropriate language once the graphical phase of the installation process begins. o Some Sony VAIO(R) notebook systems may experience problems installing Fedora Core from CD-ROM. If this happens, restart the installation process and add the following option to the boot command line: pci=off ide1=0x180,0x386 This option allows the installation to proceed normally; any devices not detected due to the use of this option will be configured the first time Fedora Core is booted. o Serial mice are known to be inoperative during installation. However, there are indications that serial mice work properly in X after the installation has completed. Refer to bug 119474 for more information: [6]http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119474 o There have been issues observed when upgrading Red Hat Linux 7.<x>, 8.0, 9, and Fedora Core 1 systems running Ximian GNOME. The issue is caused by version overlap between the official Red Hat Linux RPMs (or the ones from the Fedora Project) and the Ximian RPMs. This configuration is not supported. You have several choices in resolving this issue: 1) You may remove Ximian GNOME from your system prior to upgrading to Fedora Core. 2) You may upgrade your system, and then immediately reinstall Ximian GNOME. 3) You may upgrade your system, and then immediately remove all remaining Ximian RPMs, replacing them with the corresponding Fedora Core RPMs. You must resolve the version overlap using one of the above choices. Failure to do so will result in an unstable GNOME configuration. Package-Specific Notes The following sections contain information regarding packages that have undergone significant changes for Fedora Core 3. For easier access, they are organized using the same groups used in Anaconda. Base This section contains information related to basic system components. openssh Fedora Core 3 contains OpenSSH 3.9, which includes strict permission and ownership checks for the ~/.ssh/config file. These checks mean that ssh will exit if this file does not have appropriate ownership and permissions. Therefore, make sure that ~/.ssh/config is owned by the owner of ~/, and that its permissions are set to mode 600. In addition, OpenSSH is no longer configured to request X11 forwarding by default when connecting to servers. To enable X11 forwarding, the -X or -Y option must be specified, or the ForwardX11 option must be enabled in the ~/.ssh/config file. The behavior of ssh clients that are invoked with the -X flag has changed. In OpenSSH 3.8 and later, X11 forwarding is performed in a way that applications run as untrusted clients by default. Previously, X11 forwarding was performed so that applications always ran as trusted clients. Some applications may not function properly when run as untrusted clients. To forward X11 so that applications are run as trusted clients, invoke ssh with the -Y flag instead of the -X flag, or set ForwardX11Trusted in the ~/.ssh/config file. Core This section contains the most elemental components of Fedora Core, including the kernel. e2fsprogs The ext2online utility has been added for online growing of existing ext3 file systems. Note It is important to keep in mind that ext2online does not grow the underlying block device itself -- there must be sufficient unused space already present on the device. The easiest way to ensure this is to use LVM volumes and to run lvresize or lvextend to extend the device. In addition, file systems must be specially prepared in order to be resized past a certain point. The preparation involves reserving a small amount of space into which on-disk tables can grow. For newly-created file systems, mke2fs reserves such space automatically; the space reserved is sufficient to grow the file system by a factor of 1000. The creation of this reserved space can be disabled by the following command: mke2fs -O ^resize_inode Future releases of Fedora Core will allow the creation of this reserved space on existing file systems. glibc o The version of glibc provided with Fedora Core 3 performs additional internal sanity checks to prevent and detect data corruption as early as possible. By default, should corruption be detected, a message similar to the following will be displayed on standard error (or logged via syslog if stderr is not open): *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption: 0x0937d008 *** By default, the program that generated this error will also be killed; however, this (and whether or not an error message is generated) can be controlled via the MALLOC_CHECK_ environment variable. The following settings are supported: o 0 -- Do not generate an error message, and do not kill the program o 1 -- Generate an error message, but do not kill the program o 2 -- Do not generate an error message, but kill the program o 3 -- Generate an error message and kill the program Note If MALLOC_CHECK_ is explicitly set a value other than 0, this causes glibc to perform more tests that are more extensive than the default, and may impact performance. Should you have a program from a third party ISV that triggers these corruption checks and displays a message, you should file a defect report with the application's vendor, since this indicates a serious bug. hotplug The location where hotplug expects firmware to be loaded into (for example, firmware for Cardbus cards) has changed from /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware to /lib/firmware. Existing firmware files must be moved into the new directory. kernel o In the past, the process of updating the kernel did not change the default kernel in the system's boot loader configuration. Fedora Core 3 changes this behavior to set newly-installed kernels as the default. This behavior applies to all installation methods (including rpm -i). This behavior is controlled by two lines in the /etc/sysconfig/kernel file: o UPGRADEDEFAULT -- Controls whether new kernels will be booted by default (default value: yes) o DEFAULTKERNEL -- kernel RPMs whose names match this value will be booted by default (default value: depends on hardware configuration) o In order to eliminate the redundancy inherent in providing a separate package for the kernel source code when that source code already exists in the kernel's .src.rpm file, Fedora Core 3 no longer includes the kernel-source package. Users that require access to the kernel sources can find them in the kernel .src.rpm file. To create an exploded source tree from this file, perform the following steps (note that <version> refers to the version specification for your currently-running kernel): 1. Obtain the kernel-<version>.src.rpm file from one of the following sources: o The SRPMS directory on the appropriate "SRPMS" CD iso image o The FTP site where you got the kernel package o By running the following command: up2date --get-source kernel 2. Install kernel-<version>.src.rpm (given the default RPM configuration, the files this package contains will be written to /usr/src/redhat/) 3. Change directory to /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/, and issue the following command: rpmbuild -bp --target=<arch> kernel.spec (Where <arch> is the desired target architecture.) On a default RPM configuration, the kernel tree will be located in /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/. 4. In resulting tree, the configurations for the specific kernels shipped in Fedora Core 3 are in the /configs/ directory. For example, the i686 SMP configuration file is named /configs/kernel-<version>-i686-smp.config. Issue the following command to place the desired configuration file in the proper place for building: cp <desired-file> ./.config 5. Issue the following command: make oldconfig You can then proceed as usual. Note An exploded source tree is not required to build kernel modules against the currently in-use kernel. For example, to build the foo.ko module, create the following file (named Makefile) in the directory containing the foo.c file: obj-m := foo.o KDIR := /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build PWD := $(shell pwd) default: $(MAKE) -C $(KDIR) SUBDIRS=$(PWD) modules Issue the make command to build the foo.ko module. o I[2]O SCSI RAID adapters from manufacturers such as Adaptec now use the i2o_block driver, rather than the dpt_i2o driver used by Fedora Core 1 and earlier distributions. Be aware that block devices used by the i2o_block driver are /dev/i2o/hd* rather than the /dev/sd* SCSI devices. This may be problematic for those upgrading from older distributions that used the dpt_i2o driver. Therefore, after an upgrade to Fedora Core 3, you may need to boot using a rescue disk and edit your /etc/fstab file to use the new devices. For more information about the new I[2]O device layer and Fedora Core-specific notes, visit the I[2]O homepage: [7]http://i2o.shadowconnect.com/ Language Support This section includes information related to the support of various languages under Fedora Core. iiimf o The default Input Method (IM) for Chinese (Simplified and Traditional), Japanese, and Korean has been changed to IIIMF -- the Internet/Intranet Input Method Framework. IIIMF is supported as a native GTK2 IM module, and also through XIM using the httx client. IIIMF supports the use of multiple Language Engines (LEs) at the same time; using the GNOME Input Method Language Engine Tool (GIMLET -- an applet) it is possible to switch between LEs of different languages inside GTK2 applications. IIIMF currently defaults to using Ctrl-Space or Shift-Space for toggling the input method on and off (Emacs users can use Ctrl-@ instead of Ctrl-Space to set the mark.) Depending on your selection at the language support screen during installation, one or more IIIMF language engines may be installed. The IIIMF server package (iiimf-server) will also be installed if a language engine has been selected. The language to language engine (LE) package mappings are as follows: o ja_JP -- iiimf-le-canna o zh_CN -- iiimf-le-chinput o zh_TW -- iiimf-le-xcin o ko_KR -- iiimf-le-hangul o {bn,gu,pa,ta,hi}_IN -- iiimf-le-unit Accordingly, input via IIIMF will be enabled if you have chosen one of the following as your default locale: o ja_JP o zh_CN o zh_TW o ko_KR o {bn,gu,pa,ta,hi}_IN To aid your use of IIIMF, if you have selected one of the above locales and you are using the GNOME Desktop, when you first login the GIMLET utility (part of the iiimf-gnome-im-switcher package) will automatically be added to your panel. GIMLET is a utility for switching between the different LEs that are installed on your system. Using a different language engine allows you to enter text in different languages. Alternatively you may add GIMLET manually to your panel by right clicking on the panel and selecting: Add to Panel -> GIMLET Should you wish to switch between IIIMF or the legacy input method framework XIM, you can use the system-switch-im application. After changing the input method framework your changes will be reflected when you next start the X Window System. Mail Server This section contains information related to the mail transport agents included with Fedora Core. mailman Earlier mailman RPMs installed all files under the /var/mailman/ directory. Unfortunately, this did not conform to the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) and also created security violations when SELinux was enabled. If you previously had mailman installed and had edited files in /var/mailman/ (such as mm_cfg.py) you must move those changes to their new location, as documented in the following file: /usr/share/doc/mailman-*/INSTALL.REDHAT sendmail o By default, the Sendmail mail transport agent (MTA) does not accept network connections from any host other than the local computer. If you want to configure Sendmail as a server for other clients, you must edit /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and change the DAEMON_OPTIONS line to also listen on network devices (or comment out this option entirely using the dnl comment delimiter). You must then regenerate /etc/mail/sendmail.cf by running the following command (as root): make -C /etc/mail Note that you must have the sendmail-cf package installed for this to work. Server Configuration Tools This section contains information related to various server configuration tools. system-config-securitylevel The firewall constructed by the system-config-securitylevel configuration tool now allows CUPS and Multicast DNS (mDNS) browsing. Note that, at the present time, these services cannot be disabled by system-config-securitylevel. Sound and Video This section contains information related to multimedia applications. k3b Past users of the CD/DVD burning application k3b may notice that the program k3bsetup is missing. This is because k3bsetup is not necessary under Fedora Core 3. Web Server This section contains information related to Web-related tools. crypto-utils The certwatch(1) tool has been added to the crypto-utils package. This tool is used to send warning mail to root when any configured SSL certificates have expired or are approaching the expiration date. By default, the tool checks any certificates that are enabled in the mod_ssl configuration. httpd By default, the httpd daemon is now started using the C locale, rather than using the configured system locale setting. This behavior can be changed by setting the HTTPD_LANG variable in the /etc/sysconfig/httpd file. php The gd, mbstring, and ncurses extensions have been moved to the php-gd, php-mbstring, and php-ncurses packages, respectively. Note that you will need to install these packages manually (if required) when upgrading from an earlier release. Windows File Server This section contains information related to Samba, software that makes it possible to share files between Linux and Windows systems. samba Browsing of Windows shares (also known as SMB browsing) fails on Fedora Core 3 systems that have the standard firewall configured. This is most easily noticed in the failure of Nautilus to display shares. The failure is due to the firewall disrupting the broadcast mode of SMB browsing, which is Samba's default setting. There are two workarounds: o Configure a WINS server on the network, and set the "wins server" option in smb.conf to the address of the WINS server. o Disable the firewall Warning Depending on your system and network configurations, disabling the firewall can greatly increase the chance of your system being attacked and compromised. Make sure you fully understand the risks before undertaking this step. For additional information, refer to the following bug report: [8]https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133478 X Window System This section contains information related to the X Window System implementation provided with Fedora Core. xorg-x11 o Users new to the X.org X11 implementation should take note of a few differences between it and the XFree86.org X11 implementation which shipped in previous Red Hat operating systems. In particular, the names of some files have changed: X Server Binary: o XFree86 X11: XFree86 o X.org X11: Xorg X Server Configuration File: o XFree86 X11: /etc/X11/XF86Config o X.org X11: /etc/X11/xorg.conf X Server Log File o XFree86 X11: /var/log/XFree86.$DISPLAY.log o X.org X11: /var/log/Xorg.$DISPLAY.log When configuring or troubleshooting your X server configuration, be sure that you are using the correct files. o There has been some confusion regarding font-related issues under the X Window System in recent versions of Fedora Core (and versions of Red Hat Linux before it.) At the present time, there are two font subsystems, each with different characteristics: - The original (15+ year old) subsystem is referred to as the "core X font subsystem". Fonts rendered by this subsystem are not anti-aliased, are handled by the X server, and have names like: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-100-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1 The newer font subsystem is known as "fontconfig", and allows applications direct access to the font files. Fontconfig is often used along with the "Xft" library, which allows applications to render fontconfig fonts to the screen with antialiasing. Fontconfig uses more human-friendly names like: Luxi Sans-10 Over time, fontconfig/Xft will replace the core X font subsystem. At the present time, applications using the Qt 3 or GTK 2 toolkits (which would include KDE and GNOME applications) use the fontconfig and Xft font subsystem; most everything else uses the core X fonts. In the future, Fedora Core may support only fontconfig/Xft in place of the XFS font server as the default local font access method. NOTE: An exception to the font subsystem usage outlined above is OpenOffice.org (which uses its own font rendering technology). If you wish to add new fonts to your Fedora Core 3 system, you must be aware that the steps necessary depend on which font subsystem is to use the new fonts. For the core X font subsystem, you must: 1. Create the /usr/share/fonts/local/ directory (if it doesn't already exist): mkdir /usr/share/fonts/local/ 2. Copy the new font file into /usr/share/fonts/local/ 3. Update the font information by issuing the following commands (note that, due to formatting restrictions, the following commands may appear on more than one line; in use, each command should be entered on a single line): ttmkfdir -d /usr/share/fonts/local/ -o /usr/share/fonts/local/fonts.scale mkfontdir /usr/share/fonts/local/ 4. If you had to create /usr/share/fonts/local/, you must then add it to the X font server (xfs) path: chkfontpath --add /usr/share/fonts/local/ Adding new fonts to the fontconfig font subsystem is more straightforward; the new font file only needs to be copied into the /usr/share/fonts/ directory (individual users can modify their personal font configuration by copying the font file into the ~/.fonts/ directory). After the new font has been copied, use fc-cache to update the font information cache: fc-cache <directory> (Where <directory> would be either the /usr/share/fonts/ or ~/.fonts/ directories.) Individual users may also install fonts graphically, by browsing fonts:/// in Nautilus, and dragging the new font files there. NOTE: If the font filename ends with ".gz", it has been compressed with gzip, and must be decompressed (with the gunzip command) before the fontconfig font subsystem can use the font. o Due to the transition to the new font system based on fontconfig/Xft, GTK+ 1.2 applications are not affected by any changes made via the Font Preferences dialog. For these applications, a font can be configured by adding the following lines to the file ~/.gtkrc.mine: style "user-font" { fontset = "<font-specification>" } widget_class "*" style "user-font" (Where <font-specification> represents a font specification in the style used by traditional X applications, such as "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*".) Miscellaneous Notes This section contains information related to packages that do not fit in any of the proceeding categories. compat-db C++ and TCL bindings are no longer contained in the compat-db package. Applications requiring these bindings must be ported to the currently-shipping DB library. nscd The nscd name service cache daemon may now maintain a persistent cache across restarts or system reboots. Each database (user, group, and host, respectively) can be made selected to be persistent by setting the appropriate line in /etc/nscd.conf to "yes". Entries are not removed from the cache until they are proven to be no longer of interest. All entries whose time-to-live expires but are otherwise interesting are automatically reloaded, which helps in situations where the directory and name services become temporarily unavailable. The nscd name service daemon is also able to communicate faster with client programs. This feature must be enabled explicitly by setting the "shared" entry for the appropriate database in /etc/nscd.conf to "yes". udev Fedora Core 3 has switched from a static /dev/ directory to one that is dynamically managed via udev. This allows device nodes to be created on demand as drivers are loaded. For more information on udev, refer to the udev(8) man page and the following link: [9]http://people.redhat.com/~harald/udev.html Additional rules for udev should be placed in a separate file in the /etc/udev/rules.d/ directory. Additional permission rules for udev should be placed in a separate file in the /etc/udev/permissions.d/ directory. Systems upgraded to Fedora Core 3 using Anaconda will automatically be reconfigured to use udev. However (although NOT recommended) it is possible to perform a "live" upgrade to udev using the following steps: 1. Ensure that you are running a 2.6 kernel 2. Ensure that /sys/ is mounted 3. Install the initscripts RPM supplied with Fedora Core 3 4. Install the new udev RPM supplied with Fedora Core 3 5. Execute /sbin/start_udev 6. Install the new mkinitrd RPM supplied with Fedora Core 3 7. Perform one of the following steps: . Install the new kernel RPM supplied with Fedora Core 3 OR: . Re-run mkinitrd for your existing kernel(s) Warning Improperly performing these steps can result in a system configuration that will not boot properly. Packages Added/Removed/Deprecated This section contains lists of packages that fit into the following categories: o Packages that have been added to Fedora Core 3 o Packages that have been removed from Fedora Core 3 o Packages that have been deprecated, and may be removed from a future release of Fedora Core Packages Added The following packages have been added to Fedora Core 3: o HelixPlayer o NetworkManager o NetworkManager-gnome o Pyrex o aiksaurus o aiksaurus-devel o aiksaurus-gtk o aiksaurus-gtk-devel o arptables_jf o aspell-af o aspell-bg o aspell-br o aspell-ca o aspell-cs o aspell-cy o aspell-el o aspell-fo o aspell-ga o aspell-gd o aspell-gl o aspell-hr o aspell-ia o aspell-id o aspell-it o aspell-pl o audit o authd o bluez-utils-cups o bzflag o compat-openldap o crash o createrepo o crypto-utils o cscope o cyrus-sasl-ntlm o cyrus-sasl-sql o dasher o db4-java o dbus-python o dhcpv6 o dhcpv6_client o diskdumputils o dmraid o docbook-simple o docbook-slides o ecj o epiphany-devel o evolution-connector o evolution-data-server o evolution-data-server-devel o evolution-webcal o fedora-release o firefox o fonts-xorg-100dpi o fonts-xorg-75dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-14-100dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-14-75dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-15-100dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-15-75dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-2-100dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-2-75dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-9-100dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-9-75dpi o fonts-xorg-base o fonts-xorg-cyrillic o fonts-xorg-syriac o fonts-xorg-truetype o gamin o gamin-devel o gcc4 o gcc4-c++ o gcc4-gfortran o gda-mysql o gda-odbc o gda-postgres o gettext-devel o gnome-keyring-manager o gnome-nettool o gnome-volume-manager o gnuplot-emacs o gnutls o gnutls-devel o gok-devel o hal o hal-cups-utils o hal-devel o hal-gnome o howl o howl-devel o howl-libs o httpd-suexec o iiimf-gnome-im-switcher o iiimf-le-chinput o iiimf-le-sun-thai o iiimf-libs o iiimf-libs-devel o java-1.4.2-gcj-compat o java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-devel o jpackage-utils o katana o katana-build o kde-i18n-Bulgarian o kdeaddons-xmms o kdenetwork-nowlistening o kdewebdev o kdewebdev-devel o kinput2 o krb5-auth-dialog o libbtctl-devel o libgda o libgda-devel o libgfortran o libgnomedb o libgnomedb-devel o libidn o libidn-devel o libmudflap o libmudflap-devel o libsepol o libsepol-devel o libsilc o libsilc-devel o libsilc-doc o libtheora o libtheora-devel o libwmf o libwmf-devel o linuxwacom o linuxwacom-devel o mikmod-devel o mod_authz_ldap o module-init-tools o nautilus-cd-burner-devel o net-snmp-libs o newt-perl o nptl-devel (i386) o numactl o octave-devel o openldap-servers-sql o openoffice.org-kde o openswan o pam_ccreds o pam_passwdqc o php-gd o php-mbstring o php-ncurses o python-ldap o qt-config o rpm-libs o selinux-policy-strict o selinux-policy-strict-sources o selinux-policy-targeted o selinux-policy-targeted-sources o sg3_utils o synaptics o sysfsutils o sysfsutils-devel o system-switch-im o theora-tools o thunderbird o tn5250 o tn5250-devel o totem o ttfonts-bn o ttfonts-gu o ttfonts-hi o ttfonts-pa o ttfonts-ta o valgrind o valgrind-callgrind o vino o xfce4-iconbox o xfce4-systray o xffm-icons o xfprint o xorg-x11-Xdmx o xorg-x11-deprecated-libs o xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-devel Packages Removed The following packages have been removed from Fedora Core 3: o FreeWnn-common o Gtk-Perl o Wnn6-SDK o Wnn6-SDK-devel o ac-archive o anaconda-images o ant o ant-core o ant-devel o ant-optional o aspell-pt_BR o bcel o bcel-devel o bluez-pan o bluez-sdp o bluez-sdp-devel o chromium o commons-beanutils o commons-beanutils-devel o commons-collections o commons-collections-devel o commons-dbcp o commons-dbcp-devel o commons-digester o commons-digester-devel o commons-fileupload o commons-fileupload-devel o commons-logging o commons-logging-devel o commons-modeler o commons-modeler-devel o commons-pool o commons-pool-devel o comps o cup o cup-devel o dev o devlabel o dvdrecord o fam o fam-devel o fedora-release o gcc34 o gcc34-c++ o gcc34-java o glade o gqview o gtkam o gtkam-gimp o gtkglarea o hwcrypto o iiimf-client-lib o iiimf-client-lib-devel o iiimf-le-inpinyin o iiimf-le-newpy o iiimf-protocol-lib o iiimf-protocol-lib-devel o imlib-cfgeditor o iscsi o jaf o jaf-devel o jakarta-regexp o jakarta-regexp-devel o javamail o javamail-devel o junit o junit-devel o kde-i18n-Korean o kde-i18n-Lithuanian o kernel-source o kinput2-canna-wnn6 o libgcj34 o libgcj34-devel o libgnomeprint o libgnomeprint-devel o libgnomeprintui o libgnomeprintui-devel o libole2 o libole2-devel o librep o librep-devel o libstdc++34 o libstdc++34-devel o licq o licq-gnome o licq-kde o licq-qt o licq-text o linc o linc-devel o lvm o magicdev o mod_jk2 o modutils o mx4j o mx4j-devel o mx4j-tools o mysql-jdbc o mysql-jdbc-tomcat o ncurses-c++-devel o njamd o pidentd o pilot-link095-compat o policy o policy-sources o policy-strict-sources o printman o python-optik o quanta o quanta-devel o raidtools o redhat-java-rpm-scripts o rep-gtk o sawfish o servletapi o servletapi-devel o shapecfg o struts o struts-webapps o system-config-proc o tomcat o tomcat-devel o tomcat-libs o tomcat-test o unarj o xalan-j o xalan-j-devel o xalan-j-xsltc o xerces-j o xerces-j-devel o xffm-icons o xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-100dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-75dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-100dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-75dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-100dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-100dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-75dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-base-fonts o xorg-x11-cyrillic-fonts o xorg-x11-libs-data o xorg-x11-syriac-fonts o xorg-x11-truetype-fonts Packages Deprecated The following packages have been deprecated, and may be removed from a future release of Fedora Core: o dbskkd-cdb -- Only used by deprecated package skkinput o FreeWnn -- Only used by deprecated package kinput2-canna-wnn6 o lilo -- GRUB is the recommended bootloader o miniChinput -- IIIMF is the recommended input method o nabi -- IIIMF is the recommended input method o ncpfs -- No longer part of Fedora Core profile o skkinput -- IIIMF is the recommended input method o xcin -- IIIMF is the recommended input method An Overview of the Fedora Project The goal of the Fedora Project is to work with the Linux community to build a complete, general-purpose operating system exclusively from open source software. Development will be done in a public forum. The project will produce time-based releases of Fedora Core about 2-3 times a year, with a public release schedule. The Red Hat engineering team will continue to participate in building Fedora Core and will invite and encourage more outside participation than was possible in the past. By using this more open process, we hope to provide an operating system more in line with the ideals of free software and more appealing to the open source community. For more information, refer to the Fedora Project website: [10]http://fedora.redhat.com/ In addition to the website, the following mailing lists are available: o fedora-list(a)redhat.com -- For users of Fedora Core releases o fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com -- For testers of Fedora Core test releases o fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com -- For developers, developers, developers o fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com -- For participants of the docs project To subscribe to any of these lists, send an email with the word "subscribe" in the subject to <listname>-request (where <listname> is one of the above list names.) NOTE: If you have subscribed in the past to rhl-list, rhl-beta-list, rhl-devel-list, or rhl-docs-list, your subscriptions have been retained. The Fedora Project also includes an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) channel. IRC is a real-time, text-based form of communication. With it, you can have conversations with multiple people in an open channel or chat with someone privately one-on-one. To talk with other Fedora Project participants via IRC, access freenode IRC network. Initially, you can use irc.freenode.net as the IRC server, although you may decide to select a server that is geographically closer to you. Refer to the freenode website ([11]http://www.freenode.net/) for more information. Fedora Project participants frequent the #fedora channel, while Fedora Project developers can often be found on the #fedora-devel channel. Some of the larger projects may have their own channels as well; this information can be found on the project pages. NOTE: Red Hat has no control over the Fedora IRC channels or their content. ( x86 ) References Visible links 1. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl.html 2. http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq/ 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-June/msg00007.html 4. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2004-June/msg00370.html 5. http://platan.vc.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/ 6. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119474 7. http://i2o.shadowconnect.com/ 8. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133478 9. http://people.redhat.com/~harald/udev.html 10. http://fedora.redhat.com/ 11. http://www.freenode.net/ Fedora Core 3 Release Notes Copyright (c) 2004 Red Hat, Inc. Permission is granted to copy, distribute, and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is available at [1]http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl.html. 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The GPG fingerprint of the "Fedora Project <fedora(a)redhat.com>" key is: CA B4 4B 99 6F 27 74 4E 86 12 7C DF B4 42 69 D0 4F 2A 6F D2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Introduction The Fedora Project is an openly-developed project designed by Red Hat, open for general participation, led by a meritocracy, and following a set of project objectives. The results from this project include Fedora Core, a complete, general-purpose operating system built exclusively from open source software. Note Fedora Core is not a supported product of Red Hat, Inc. For more information, refer to the Fedora Project overview later in this document. The following topics related to Fedora Core 3 are covered in this document: o Introduction (this section) o Hardware requirements o Overview of this release o Installation-related notes o Package-specific notes o Packages added/removed/deprecated o An overview of the Fedora Project Hardware Requirements The following information represents the minimum hardware requirements necessary to successfully install Fedora Core 3. Note The compatibility/availability of other hardware components (such as video and network cards) may be required for specific installation modes and/or post-installation usage. CPU Requirements This section lists the CPU specifications required by Fedora Core 3. o AMD64 processors (both Athlon64 and Opteron) o Intel processors with Intel(R) Extended Memory 64 Technology (Intel(R) EM64T) Hard Disk Space Requirements This section lists the disk space required to install Fedora Core 3. Note The disk space requirements listed below represent the disk space taken up by Fedora Core 3 after the installation is complete. However, additional disk space is required during the installation to support the installation environment. This additional disk space corresponds to the size of /Fedora/base/stage2.img (on CD-ROM 1) plus the size of the files in /var/lib/rpm on the installed system. In practical terms, this means that as little as an additional 90MB can be required for a minimal installation, while as much as an additional 175MB can be required for an "everything" installation. Also, keep in mind that additional space will be required for any user data, and at least 5% free space should be maintained for proper system operation. o Custom Installation (Minimal): 900MB o Server: 1.5GB o Personal Desktop: 2.7GB o Workstation: 3.4GB o Custom Installation: (Everything) 7.5GB Memory Requirements This section lists the memory required to install Fedora Core 3. o Minimum for text-mode: 128MB o Minimum for graphical: 256MB o Recommended for graphical: 512MB Overview of This Release The following list includes brief summaries of some of the more significant aspects of Fedora Core 3: o Fedora Core 3 contains the following changes: o GCC 3.4 o GNOME 2.8 o KDE 3.3 o SELinux -- This includes a new "targeted" policy that monitors specific daemons with less intrusion than the strict policy in use before. This policy is enabled by default. For more information, refer to: [2]http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq/ o Indic language support o Firefox and Mozilla can be enabled with pango rendering support, which enables many text layout features, including the rendering of CTL (Complex Text Layout) such as Indic languages. To enable this, set the following environment variable when running Firefox or Mozilla: MOZ_ENABLE_PANGO=1 o Kernel and e2fsprogs support for online growing of ext3 file systems o Various desktop-related features, including, but not limited to: o Remote desktops using VNC ([3]http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-June/msg00007.html) o Printing improvements ([4]http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2004-June/msg00370.html) o Evolution 2.0 Note VMware WS 4.5.2 is known to work on Fedora Core 3 after the following workarounds are used: o You must upgrade the kernel modules and configuration using the unofficial vmware-any-any-* toolkit available from: [5]http://platan.vc.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/ o After vmware-config.pl is run and the VMware modules are loaded, the following command creates the /sys/class/* nodes needed for udev: cp -rp /dev/vm* /etc/udev/devices/ Installation-Related Notes This section outlines those issues that are related to Anaconda (the Fedora Core installation program) and installing Fedora Core 3 in general. Note If you intend to download the Fedora Core 3 DVD ISO image, keep in mind that not all file downloading tools can accommodate files larger than 2GB in size. For example, wget will exit with a File size limit exceeded error. The curl and ncftpget file downloading tools do not have this limitation, and can successfully download files larger than 2GB. Anaconda Notes o The Fedora Core installation program has the ability to test the integrity of the installation media. It works with the CD, DVD, hard drive ISO, and NFS ISO installation methods. Red Hat recommends that you test all installation media before starting the installation process, and before reporting any installation-related bugs (many of the bugs reported are actually due to improperly-burned CDs). To use this test, type linux mediacheck at the boot: prompt. o Fedora Core 3 supports graphical FTP and HTTP installations. However, due to the necessity of containing the installer image in RAM, only systems with more than 128MB of RAM (or systems booted from CD-ROM 1, which contains the installer image) can use the graphical installer. Systems with 128MB or less will continue to use the text-based installer. Installation-Related Issues o Certain hardware configurations (particularly those with LCD displays) may experience problems while starting the Fedora Core installation program. In these instances, restart the installation, and add the "nofb" option to the boot command line. NOTE: Chinese, Japanese, and Korean graphical installations started using the "nofb" option will start in English, and then switch to the appropriate language once the graphical phase of the installation process begins. o Serial mice are known to be inoperative during installation. However, there are indications that serial mice work properly in X after the installation has completed. Refer to bug 119474 for more information: [6]http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119474 Package-Specific Notes The following sections contain information regarding packages that have undergone significant changes for Fedora Core 3. For easier access, they are organized using the same groups used in Anaconda. Base This section contains information related to basic system components. openssh Fedora Core 3 contains OpenSSH 3.9, which includes strict permission and ownership checks for the ~/.ssh/config file. These checks mean that ssh will exit if this file does not have appropriate ownership and permissions. Therefore, make sure that ~/.ssh/config is owned by the owner of ~/, and that its permissions are set to mode 600. In addition, OpenSSH is no longer configured to request X11 forwarding by default when connecting to servers. To enable X11 forwarding, the -X or -Y option must be specified, or the ForwardX11 option must be enabled in the ~/.ssh/config file. The behavior of ssh clients that are invoked with the -X flag has changed. In OpenSSH 3.8 and later, X11 forwarding is performed in a way that applications run as untrusted clients by default. Previously, X11 forwarding was performed so that applications always ran as trusted clients. Some applications may not function properly when run as untrusted clients. To forward X11 so that applications are run as trusted clients, invoke ssh with the -Y flag instead of the -X flag, or set ForwardX11Trusted in the ~/.ssh/config file. Core This section contains the most elemental components of Fedora Core, including the kernel. e2fsprogs The ext2online utility has been added for online growing of existing ext3 file systems. Note It is important to keep in mind that ext2online does not grow the underlying block device itself -- there must be sufficient unused space already present on the device. The easiest way to ensure this is to use LVM volumes and to run lvresize or lvextend to extend the device. In addition, file systems must be specially prepared in order to be resized past a certain point. The preparation involves reserving a small amount of space into which on-disk tables can grow. For newly-created file systems, mke2fs reserves such space automatically; the space reserved is sufficient to grow the file system by a factor of 1000. The creation of this reserved space can be disabled by the following command: mke2fs -O ^resize_inode Future releases of Fedora Core will allow the creation of this reserved space on existing file systems. glibc o The version of glibc provided with Fedora Core 3 performs additional internal sanity checks to prevent and detect data corruption as early as possible. By default, should corruption be detected, a message similar to the following will be displayed on standard error (or logged via syslog if stderr is not open): *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption: 0x0937d008 *** By default, the program that generated this error will also be killed; however, this (and whether or not an error message is generated) can be controlled via the MALLOC_CHECK_ environment variable. The following settings are supported: o 0 -- Do not generate an error message, and do not kill the program o 1 -- Generate an error message, but do not kill the program o 2 -- Do not generate an error message, but kill the program o 3 -- Generate an error message and kill the program Note If MALLOC_CHECK_ is explicitly set a value other than 0, this causes glibc to perform more tests that are more extensive than the default, and may impact performance. Should you have a program from a third party ISV that triggers these corruption checks and displays a message, you should file a defect report with the application's vendor, since this indicates a serious bug. hotplug The location where hotplug expects firmware to be loaded into (for example, firmware for Cardbus cards) has changed from /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware to /lib/firmware. Existing firmware files must be moved into the new directory. kernel o In the past, the process of updating the kernel did not change the default kernel in the system's boot loader configuration. Fedora Core 3 changes this behavior to set newly-installed kernels as the default. This behavior applies to all installation methods (including rpm -i). This behavior is controlled by two lines in the /etc/sysconfig/kernel file: o UPGRADEDEFAULT -- Controls whether new kernels will be booted by default (default value: yes) o DEFAULTKERNEL -- kernel RPMs whose names match this value will be booted by default (default value: depends on hardware configuration) o In order to eliminate the redundancy inherent in providing a separate package for the kernel source code when that source code already exists in the kernel's .src.rpm file, Fedora Core 3 no longer includes the kernel-source package. Users that require access to the kernel sources can find them in the kernel .src.rpm file. To create an exploded source tree from this file, perform the following steps (note that <version> refers to the version specification for your currently-running kernel): 1. Obtain the kernel-<version>.src.rpm file from one of the following sources: o The SRPMS directory on the appropriate "SRPMS" CD iso image o The FTP site where you got the kernel package o By running the following command: up2date --get-source kernel 2. Install kernel-<version>.src.rpm (given the default RPM configuration, the files this package contains will be written to /usr/src/redhat/) 3. Change directory to /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/, and issue the following command: rpmbuild -bp --target=<arch> kernel.spec (Where <arch> is the desired target architecture.) On a default RPM configuration, the kernel tree will be located in /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/. 4. In resulting tree, the configurations for the specific kernels shipped in Fedora Core 3 are in the /configs/ directory. For example, the i686 SMP configuration file is named /configs/kernel-<version>-i686-smp.config. Issue the following command to place the desired configuration file in the proper place for building: cp <desired-file> ./.config 5. Issue the following command: make oldconfig You can then proceed as usual. Note An exploded source tree is not required to build kernel modules against the currently in-use kernel. For example, to build the foo.ko module, create the following file (named Makefile) in the directory containing the foo.c file: obj-m := foo.o KDIR := /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build PWD := $(shell pwd) default: $(MAKE) -C $(KDIR) SUBDIRS=$(PWD) modules Issue the make command to build the foo.ko module. o I[2]O SCSI RAID adapters from manufacturers such as Adaptec now use the i2o_block driver, rather than the dpt_i2o driver used by Fedora Core 1 and earlier distributions. Be aware that block devices used by the i2o_block driver are /dev/i2o/hd* rather than the /dev/sd* SCSI devices. This may be problematic for those upgrading from older distributions that used the dpt_i2o driver. Therefore, after an upgrade to Fedora Core 3, you may need to boot using a rescue disk and edit your /etc/fstab file to use the new devices. For more information about the new I[2]O device layer and Fedora Core-specific notes, visit the I[2]O homepage: [7]http://i2o.shadowconnect.com/ Language Support This section includes information related to the support of various languages under Fedora Core. iiimf o The default Input Method (IM) for Chinese (Simplified and Traditional), Japanese, and Korean has been changed to IIIMF -- the Internet/Intranet Input Method Framework. IIIMF is supported as a native GTK2 IM module, and also through XIM using the httx client. IIIMF supports the use of multiple Language Engines (LEs) at the same time; using the GNOME Input Method Language Engine Tool (GIMLET -- an applet) it is possible to switch between LEs of different languages inside GTK2 applications. IIIMF currently defaults to using Ctrl-Space or Shift-Space for toggling the input method on and off (Emacs users can use Ctrl-@ instead of Ctrl-Space to set the mark.) Depending on your selection at the language support screen during installation, one or more IIIMF language engines may be installed. The IIIMF server package (iiimf-server) will also be installed if a language engine has been selected. The language to language engine (LE) package mappings are as follows: o ja_JP -- iiimf-le-canna o zh_CN -- iiimf-le-chinput o zh_TW -- iiimf-le-xcin o ko_KR -- iiimf-le-hangul o {bn,gu,pa,ta,hi}_IN -- iiimf-le-unit Accordingly, input via IIIMF will be enabled if you have chosen one of the following as your default locale: o ja_JP o zh_CN o zh_TW o ko_KR o {bn,gu,pa,ta,hi}_IN To aid your use of IIIMF, if you have selected one of the above locales and you are using the GNOME Desktop, when you first login the GIMLET utility (part of the iiimf-gnome-im-switcher package) will automatically be added to your panel. GIMLET is a utility for switching between the different LEs that are installed on your system. Using a different language engine allows you to enter text in different languages. Alternatively you may add GIMLET manually to your panel by right clicking on the panel and selecting: Add to Panel -> GIMLET Should you wish to switch between IIIMF or the legacy input method framework XIM, you can use the system-switch-im application. After changing the input method framework your changes will be reflected when you next start the X Window System. Mail Server This section contains information related to the mail transport agents included with Fedora Core. mailman Earlier mailman RPMs installed all files under the /var/mailman/ directory. Unfortunately, this did not conform to the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) and also created security violations when SELinux was enabled. If you previously had mailman installed and had edited files in /var/mailman/ (such as mm_cfg.py) you must move those changes to their new location, as documented in the following file: /usr/share/doc/mailman-*/INSTALL.REDHAT sendmail o By default, the Sendmail mail transport agent (MTA) does not accept network connections from any host other than the local computer. If you want to configure Sendmail as a server for other clients, you must edit /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and change the DAEMON_OPTIONS line to also listen on network devices (or comment out this option entirely using the dnl comment delimiter). You must then regenerate /etc/mail/sendmail.cf by running the following command (as root): make -C /etc/mail Note that you must have the sendmail-cf package installed for this to work. Server Configuration Tools This section contains information related to various server configuration tools. system-config-securitylevel The firewall constructed by the system-config-securitylevel configuration tool now allows CUPS and Multicast DNS (mDNS) browsing. Note that, at the present time, these services cannot be disabled by system-config-securitylevel. Sound and Video This section contains information related to multimedia applications. k3b Past users of the CD/DVD burning application k3b may notice that the program k3bsetup is missing. This is because k3bsetup is not necessary under Fedora Core 3. Web Server This section contains information related to Web-related tools. crypto-utils The certwatch(1) tool has been added to the crypto-utils package. This tool is used to send warning mail to root when any configured SSL certificates have expired or are approaching the expiration date. By default, the tool checks any certificates that are enabled in the mod_ssl configuration. httpd By default, the httpd daemon is now started using the C locale, rather than using the configured system locale setting. This behavior can be changed by setting the HTTPD_LANG variable in the /etc/sysconfig/httpd file. php The gd, mbstring, and ncurses extensions have been moved to the php-gd, php-mbstring, and php-ncurses packages, respectively. Note that you will need to install these packages manually (if required) when upgrading from an earlier release. Windows File Server This section contains information related to Samba, software that makes it possible to share files between Linux and Windows systems. samba Browsing of Windows shares (also known as SMB browsing) fails on Fedora Core 3 systems that have the standard firewall configured. This is most easily noticed in the failure of Nautilus to display shares. The failure is due to the firewall disrupting the broadcast mode of SMB browsing, which is Samba's default setting. There are two workarounds: o Configure a WINS server on the network, and set the "wins server" option in smb.conf to the address of the WINS server. o Disable the firewall Warning Depending on your system and network configurations, disabling the firewall can greatly increase the chance of your system being attacked and compromised. Make sure you fully understand the risks before undertaking this step. For additional information, refer to the following bug report: [8]https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133478 X Window System This section contains information related to the X Window System implementation provided with Fedora Core. xorg-x11 o Users new to the X.org X11 implementation should take note of a few differences between it and the XFree86.org X11 implementation which shipped in previous Red Hat operating systems. In particular, the names of some files have changed: X Server Binary: o XFree86 X11: XFree86 o X.org X11: Xorg X Server Configuration File: o XFree86 X11: /etc/X11/XF86Config o X.org X11: /etc/X11/xorg.conf X Server Log File o XFree86 X11: /var/log/XFree86.$DISPLAY.log o X.org X11: /var/log/Xorg.$DISPLAY.log When configuring or troubleshooting your X server configuration, be sure that you are using the correct files. o There has been some confusion regarding font-related issues under the X Window System in recent versions of Fedora Core (and versions of Red Hat Linux before it.) At the present time, there are two font subsystems, each with different characteristics: - The original (15+ year old) subsystem is referred to as the "core X font subsystem". Fonts rendered by this subsystem are not anti-aliased, are handled by the X server, and have names like: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-100-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1 The newer font subsystem is known as "fontconfig", and allows applications direct access to the font files. Fontconfig is often used along with the "Xft" library, which allows applications to render fontconfig fonts to the screen with antialiasing. Fontconfig uses more human-friendly names like: Luxi Sans-10 Over time, fontconfig/Xft will replace the core X font subsystem. At the present time, applications using the Qt 3 or GTK 2 toolkits (which would include KDE and GNOME applications) use the fontconfig and Xft font subsystem; most everything else uses the core X fonts. In the future, Fedora Core may support only fontconfig/Xft in place of the XFS font server as the default local font access method. NOTE: An exception to the font subsystem usage outlined above is OpenOffice.org (which uses its own font rendering technology). If you wish to add new fonts to your Fedora Core 3 system, you must be aware that the steps necessary depend on which font subsystem is to use the new fonts. For the core X font subsystem, you must: 1. Create the /usr/share/fonts/local/ directory (if it doesn't already exist): mkdir /usr/share/fonts/local/ 2. Copy the new font file into /usr/share/fonts/local/ 3. Update the font information by issuing the following commands (note that, due to formatting restrictions, the following commands may appear on more than one line; in use, each command should be entered on a single line): ttmkfdir -d /usr/share/fonts/local/ -o /usr/share/fonts/local/fonts.scale mkfontdir /usr/share/fonts/local/ 4. If you had to create /usr/share/fonts/local/, you must then add it to the X font server (xfs) path: chkfontpath --add /usr/share/fonts/local/ Adding new fonts to the fontconfig font subsystem is more straightforward; the new font file only needs to be copied into the /usr/share/fonts/ directory (individual users can modify their personal font configuration by copying the font file into the ~/.fonts/ directory). After the new font has been copied, use fc-cache to update the font information cache: fc-cache <directory> (Where <directory> would be either the /usr/share/fonts/ or ~/.fonts/ directories.) Individual users may also install fonts graphically, by browsing fonts:/// in Nautilus, and dragging the new font files there. NOTE: If the font filename ends with ".gz", it has been compressed with gzip, and must be decompressed (with the gunzip command) before the fontconfig font subsystem can use the font. o Due to the transition to the new font system based on fontconfig/Xft, GTK+ 1.2 applications are not affected by any changes made via the Font Preferences dialog. For these applications, a font can be configured by adding the following lines to the file ~/.gtkrc.mine: style "user-font" { fontset = "<font-specification>" } widget_class "*" style "user-font" (Where <font-specification> represents a font specification in the style used by traditional X applications, such as "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*".) Miscellaneous Notes This section contains information related to packages that do not fit in any of the proceeding categories. compat-db C++ and TCL bindings are no longer contained in the compat-db package. Applications requiring these bindings must be ported to the currently-shipping DB library. nscd The nscd name service cache daemon may now maintain a persistent cache across restarts or system reboots. Each database (user, group, and host, respectively) can be made selected to be persistent by setting the appropriate line in /etc/nscd.conf to "yes". Entries are not removed from the cache until they are proven to be no longer of interest. All entries whose time-to-live expires but are otherwise interesting are automatically reloaded, which helps in situations where the directory and name services become temporarily unavailable. The nscd name service daemon is also able to communicate faster with client programs. This feature must be enabled explicitly by setting the "shared" entry for the appropriate database in /etc/nscd.conf to "yes". udev Fedora Core 3 has switched from a static /dev/ directory to one that is dynamically managed via udev. This allows device nodes to be created on demand as drivers are loaded. For more information on udev, refer to the udev(8) man page and the following link: [9]http://people.redhat.com/~harald/udev.html Additional rules for udev should be placed in a separate file in the /etc/udev/rules.d/ directory. Additional permission rules for udev should be placed in a separate file in the /etc/udev/permissions.d/ directory. Systems upgraded to Fedora Core 3 using Anaconda will automatically be reconfigured to use udev. However (although NOT recommended) it is possible to perform a "live" upgrade to udev using the following steps: 1. Ensure that you are running a 2.6 kernel 2. Ensure that /sys/ is mounted 3. Install the initscripts RPM supplied with Fedora Core 3 4. Install the new udev RPM supplied with Fedora Core 3 5. Execute /sbin/start_udev 6. Install the new mkinitrd RPM supplied with Fedora Core 3 7. Perform one of the following steps: . Install the new kernel RPM supplied with Fedora Core 3 OR: . Re-run mkinitrd for your existing kernel(s) Warning Improperly performing these steps can result in a system configuration that will not boot properly. Packages Added/Removed/Deprecated This section contains lists of packages that fit into the following categories: o Packages that have been added to Fedora Core 3 o Packages that have been removed from Fedora Core 3 o Packages that have been deprecated, and may be removed from a future release of Fedora Core Packages Added The following packages have been added to Fedora Core 3: o Canna-libs (i386) o FreeWnn-libs (i386) o HelixPlayer o ImageMagick (i386) o ImageMagick-c++ (i386) o NetworkManager o NetworkManager-gnome o Omni (i386) o Pyrex o SDL (i386) o SDL_image (i386) o SDL_mixer (i386) o SDL_net (i386) o VFlib2 (i386) o Xaw3d (i386) o aiksaurus (i386) o aiksaurus (x86_64) o aiksaurus-devel o aiksaurus-gtk (i386) o aiksaurus-gtk (x86_64) o aiksaurus-gtk-devel o alchemist (i386) o alsa-lib (i386) o apr (i386) o arptables_jf o arts (i386) o aspell (i386) o aspell-af o aspell-bg o aspell-br o aspell-ca o aspell-cs o aspell-cy o aspell-el o aspell-fo o aspell-ga o aspell-gd o aspell-gl o aspell-hr o aspell-ia o aspell-id o aspell-it o aspell-pl o at-spi (i386) o audiofile (i386) o audit o authd o beecrypt (i386) o bind-libs (i386) o blas (i386) o bluez-libs (i386) o bluez-utils-cups o bogl (i386) o boost (i386) o bzflag o cdparanoia-libs (i386) o compat-db (i386) o compat-gcc (x86_64) o compat-gcc-c++ (x86_64) o compat-gcc-g77 o compat-gcc-java o compat-gcc-objc o compat-libgcj o compat-libgcj-devel o compat-libstdc++ (x86_64) o compat-libstdc++-devel (x86_64) o compat-openldap (i386) o compat-openldap (x86_64) o compat-slang o crash o createrepo o crypto-utils o cscope o curl (i386) o cyrus-sasl-gssapi (i386) o cyrus-sasl-md5 (i386) o cyrus-sasl-ntlm (i386) o cyrus-sasl-ntlm (x86_64) o cyrus-sasl-plain (i386) o cyrus-sasl-sql (i386) o cyrus-sasl-sql (x86_64) o dasher o db4-java o dbh (i386) o dbus (i386) o dbus-glib (i386) o dbus-python o device-mapper (i386) o dhcpv6 o dhcpv6_client o diskdumputils o distcache (i386) o dmraid o docbook-simple o docbook-slides o ecj o eel2 (i386) o elfutils (i386) o elfutils-libelf (i386) o emacspeak o epiphany-devel o eruby-libs (i386) o esound (i386) o evolution-connector o evolution-data-server (i386) o evolution-data-server (x86_64) o evolution-data-server-devel o evolution-webcal o fedora-release o festival o firefox o flac (i386) o fonts-xorg-100dpi o fonts-xorg-75dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-14-100dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-14-75dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-15-100dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-15-75dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-2-100dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-2-75dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-9-100dpi o fonts-xorg-ISO8859-9-75dpi o fonts-xorg-base o fonts-xorg-cyrillic o fonts-xorg-syriac o fonts-xorg-truetype o freeglut (i386) o fribidi (i386) o g-wrap (i386) o gail (i386) o gamin (i386) o gamin (x86_64) o gamin-devel o gcc4 o gcc4-c++ o gcc4-gfortran o gd (i386) o gda-mysql o gda-odbc o gda-postgres o gdk-pixbuf (i386) o gettext-devel o ghostscript (i386) o gimp-print (i386) o glib (i386) o gmp (i386) o gnome-desktop (i386) o gnome-keyring (i386) o gnome-keyring-manager o gnome-mag (i386) o gnome-nettool o gnome-panel (i386) o gnome-speech (i386) o gnome-spell (i386) o gnome-volume-manager o gnuplot-emacs o gnutls (i386) o gnutls (x86_64) o gnutls-devel o gok-devel o gphoto2 (i386) o gpm (i386) o gsl (i386) o gstreamer (i386) o gtk+ (i386) o gtk-engines (i386) o gtk2-engines (i386) o gtkhtml2 (i386) o gtkhtml3 (i386) o gtksourceview (i386) o gtkspell (i386) o guile (i386) o hal (i386) o hal (x86_64) o hal-cups-utils o hal-devel o hal-gnome o hesiod (i386) o howl o howl-devel o howl-libs (i386) o howl-libs (x86_64) o httpd-suexec o iiimf-gnome-im-switcher o iiimf-le-chinput o iiimf-le-sun-thai o iiimf-libs o iiimf-libs-devel o imlib (i386) o java-1.4.2-gcj-compat o java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-devel o jpackage-utils o katana o katana-build o kde-i18n-Bulgarian o kdeaddons-xmms o kdebase (i386) o kdelibs (i386) o kdemultimedia (i386) o kdenetwork-nowlistening o kdewebdev o kdewebdev-devel o kinput2 o krb5-auth-dialog o lapack (i386) o lesstif (i386) o libaio (i386) o libao (i386) o libavc1394 (i386) o libbonoboui (i386) o libbtctl (i386) o libbtctl-devel o libc-client (i386) o libcap (i386) o libcroco (i386) o libdbi (i386) o libdv (i386) o libesmtp (i386) o libexif (i386) o libf2c (i386) o libgail-gnome (i386) o libgal2 (i386) o libgcrypt (i386) o libgda (i386) o libgda (x86_64) o libgda-devel o libgfortran (i386) o libgfortran (x86_64) o libghttp (i386) o libglade2 (i386) o libgnat o libgnome (i386) o libgnomecanvas (i386) o libgnomedb (i386) o libgnomedb (x86_64) o libgnomedb-devel o libgnomeprint22 (i386) o libgnomeprintui22 (i386) o libgnomeui (i386) o libgpg-error (i386) o libgsf (i386) o libgtop2 (i386) o libidn (i386) o libidn (x86_64) o libidn-devel o libieee1284 (i386) o libmng (i386) o libmudflap (i386) o libmudflap (x86_64) o libmudflap-devel o libmusicbrainz (i386) o libofx (i386) o libogg (i386) o libpcap (i386) o libpng10 (i386) o libraw1394 (i386) o librsvg2 (i386) o libsepol (i386) o libsepol (x86_64) o libsepol-devel o libsilc o libsilc-devel o libsilc-doc o libsoup (i386) o libtabe (i386) o libtermcap (i386) o libtheora (i386) o libtheora (x86_64) o libtheora-devel o libtool-libs (i386) o libtool-libs13 (i386) o libungif (i386) o libusb (i386) o libuser (i386) o libvorbis (i386) o libwmf (i386) o libwmf (x86_64) o libwmf-devel o libwnck (i386) o libwpd (i386) o libwvstreams (i386) o libxfce4mcs (i386) o libxfce4util (i386) o libxfcegui4 (i386) o libxklavier (i386) o libxslt (i386) o linuxwacom o linuxwacom-devel o lm_sensors (i386) o lockdev (i386) o memtest86+ o mikmod (i386) o mikmod-devel o mod_authz_ldap o module-init-tools o mozilla-nspr (i386) o mozilla-nss (i386) o mysql (i386) o nautilus-cd-burner-devel o neon (i386) o net-snmp-libs (i386) o net-snmp-libs (x86_64) o netpbm (i386) o newt (i386) o newt-perl o nss_db (i386) o numactl o octave (i386) o octave-devel o openh323 (i386) o openhbci (i386) o openjade (i386) o openldap-servers-sql o openmotif (i386) o openmotif21 o openobex (i386) o openssl096b (i386) o openswan o ots (i386) o pam_ccreds (i386) o pam_ccreds (x86_64) o pam_passwdqc (i386) o pam_passwdqc (x86_64) o pcre (i386) o perl (i386) o php-gd o php-mbstring o php-ncurses o pilot-link (i386) o postgresql-libs (i386) o pwlib (i386) o python-ldap o qt (i386) o qt-config o readline (i386) o redhat-artwork (i386) o redhat-lsb (x86_64) o rpm-libs o ruby-libs (i386) o samba-common (i386) o sane-backends (i386) o scrollkeeper (i386) o selinux-policy-strict o selinux-policy-strict-sources o selinux-policy-targeted o selinux-policy-targeted-sources o sg3_utils o slang (i386) o speex (i386) o synaptics o sysfsutils o sysfsutils-devel o system-switch-im o tcl (i386) o tclx (i386) o tcp_wrappers (i386) o theora-tools o thunderbird o tk (i386) o tn5250 o tn5250-devel o totem o ttfonts-bn o ttfonts-gu o ttfonts-hi o ttfonts-pa o ttfonts-ta o unixODBC (i386) o unixODBC-kde (i386) o utempter (i386) o valgrind o valgrind-callgrind o vino o vte (i386) o w3c-libwww (i386) o xfce4-iconbox o xfce4-systray o xffm-icons o xfprint o xmlsec1 (i386) o xmlsec1-openssl (i386) o xorg-x11-Xdmx o xorg-x11-deprecated-libs (i386) o xorg-x11-deprecated-libs (x86_64) o xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-devel Packages Removed The following packages have been removed from Fedora Core 3: o FreeWnn-common o Gtk-Perl o Wnn6-SDK o Wnn6-SDK-devel o ac-archive o anaconda-images o ant o ant-core o ant-devel o ant-optional o aspell-pt_BR o bcel o bcel-devel o bluez-pan o bluez-sdp o bluez-sdp-devel o chromium o commons-beanutils o commons-beanutils-devel o commons-collections o commons-collections-devel o commons-dbcp o commons-dbcp-devel o commons-digester o commons-digester-devel o commons-fileupload o commons-fileupload-devel o commons-logging o commons-logging-devel o commons-modeler o commons-modeler-devel o commons-pool o commons-pool-devel o compat-gcc-g77 o comps o cup o cup-devel o dev o devlabel o dvdrecord o fam (i386) o fam (x86_64) o fam-devel o fedora-release o gcc-gnat o gcc34 o gcc34-c++ o gcc34-java o glade o gqview o gtkam o gtkam-gimp o gtkglarea o iiimf-client-lib o iiimf-client-lib-devel o iiimf-le-inpinyin o iiimf-le-newpy o iiimf-protocol-lib o iiimf-protocol-lib-devel o imlib-cfgeditor o iscsi o jaf o jaf-devel o jakarta-regexp o jakarta-regexp-devel o javamail o javamail-devel o junit o junit-devel o kde-i18n-Korean o kde-i18n-Lithuanian o kernel-source o kinput2-canna-wnn6 o libgcj34 o libgcj34-devel o libgnat o libgnomeprint o libgnomeprint-devel o libgnomeprintui o libgnomeprintui-devel o libole2 o libole2-devel o librep o librep-devel o libstdc++34 o libstdc++34-devel o licq o licq-gnome o licq-kde o licq-qt o licq-text o linc o linc-devel o lvm o magicdev o mod_jk2 o modutils o mx4j o mx4j-devel o mx4j-tools o mysql-jdbc o mysql-jdbc-tomcat o ncurses-c++-devel o njamd o nss_db-compat o pidentd o policy o policy-sources o policy-strict-sources o printman o python-optik o quanta o quanta-devel o raidtools o redhat-java-rpm-scripts o rep-gtk o samba (i386) o sawfish o servletapi o servletapi-devel o shapecfg o struts o struts-webapps o system-config-proc o tomcat o tomcat-devel o tomcat-libs o tomcat-test o unarj o xalan-j o xalan-j-devel o xalan-j-xsltc o xerces-j o xerces-j-devel o xffm-icons o xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-100dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-75dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-100dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-75dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-100dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-100dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-75dpi-fonts o xorg-x11-base-fonts o xorg-x11-cyrillic-fonts o xorg-x11-libs-data o xorg-x11-syriac-fonts o xorg-x11-truetype-fonts Packages Deprecated The following packages have been deprecated, and may be removed from a future release of Fedora Core: o dbskkd-cdb -- Only used by deprecated package skkinput o FreeWnn -- Only used by deprecated package kinput2-canna-wnn6 o miniChinput -- IIIMF is the recommended input method o nabi -- IIIMF is the recommended input method o ncpfs -- No longer part of Fedora Core profile o skkinput -- IIIMF is the recommended input method o xcin -- IIIMF is the recommended input method An Overview of the Fedora Project The goal of the Fedora Project is to work with the Linux community to build a complete, general-purpose operating system exclusively from open source software. Development will be done in a public forum. The project will produce time-based releases of Fedora Core about 2-3 times a year, with a public release schedule. The Red Hat engineering team will continue to participate in building Fedora Core and will invite and encourage more outside participation than was possible in the past. By using this more open process, we hope to provide an operating system more in line with the ideals of free software and more appealing to the open source community. For more information, refer to the Fedora Project website: [10]http://fedora.redhat.com/ In addition to the website, the following mailing lists are available: o fedora-list(a)redhat.com -- For users of Fedora Core releases o fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com -- For testers of Fedora Core test releases o fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com -- For developers, developers, developers o fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com -- For participants of the docs project To subscribe to any of these lists, send an email with the word "subscribe" in the subject to <listname>-request (where <listname> is one of the above list names.) NOTE: If you have subscribed in the past to rhl-list, rhl-beta-list, rhl-devel-list, or rhl-docs-list, your subscriptions have been retained. The Fedora Project also includes an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) channel. IRC is a real-time, text-based form of communication. With it, you can have conversations with multiple people in an open channel or chat with someone privately one-on-one. To talk with other Fedora Project participants via IRC, access freenode IRC network. Initially, you can use irc.freenode.net as the IRC server, although you may decide to select a server that is geographically closer to you. Refer to the freenode website ([11]http://www.freenode.net/) for more information. Fedora Project participants frequent the #fedora channel, while Fedora Project developers can often be found on the #fedora-devel channel. Some of the larger projects may have their own channels as well; this information can be found on the project pages. NOTE: Red Hat has no control over the Fedora IRC channels or their content. ( x86_64 ) References Visible links 1. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl.html 2. http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq/ 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-June/msg00007.html 4. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2004-June/msg00370.html 5. http://platan.vc.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/ 6. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119474 7. http://i2o.shadowconnect.com/ 8. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133478 9. http://people.redhat.com/~harald/udev.html 10. http://fedora.redhat.com/ 11. http://www.freenode.net/ -- ----- End forwarded message -----

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Mandrake 10.1 Official ISOs
by Brian J. Conway Nov. 1, 2004

Nov. 1, 2004

Mandrake 10.1 Official is now available for download and/or FTP install, but the ISOs (GPL) won't be available on the mirrors for 3 weeks. I scoured for them and found them here, in case anyone's interested: http://games.gci.net/pub/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrakelinux-10.1-Official/ It took a couple connection attempts (I assume they're limiting connections), but now I have two ISOs maxing out my cable modem at 395 KB/s. Finding the official md5sums and checking the images are an exercise left to the reader. Brian J. Conway bconway(at)alum.wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992

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RE: [Wlug] Samba PDC Question
by Martin, Eric Oct. 30, 2004

Oct. 30, 2004

If the install base is NT based, you could use hfnetchk (which SUS is based on) to check, and kixtart to do the grunt work of patching. Eric -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 3:14 PM To: 'Chuck Haines'; 'Worcester Linux Users Group' Subject: RE: [Wlug] Samba PDC Question Chuck, I'm not sure what versions of windows your have in your install base, however the easiest thing is to just configure them to download and install the patches themselves. As for the other programs, are these things that have to be "installed" or can they be raw copied out to the machines? If it's the latter, then you could just configure the login script stuff to run a local script that would check to see if it's already been run, if so do nothing, otherwise copy a bunch of files and import some registry keys, etc. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Haines [mailto:chaines@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:22 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Samba PDC Question Hello all, I'm running Samba 3 as my PDC for a large number of computers. What I'd like to be able to do is push out patches and programs to the computers that are logged into this domain. I know that with SMS and Windoze Active Directory I can do this, however I don't want to use Windows as my PDC. Does anyone know of any software I can use to accomplish this with samba? thanks, Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity http://www.tkezm.org WPI Class of 2005 http://www.wpi.edu ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Linux Photo Printer recommendations
by John Stoffel Oct. 28, 2004

Oct. 28, 2004

Hi, Does anyone have a recommendation of a good photo printer under Linux? I've heard good things about Epson printers, specifically the 2200 series. I need a printer with USB connection, and good quality output (under Linux, gimp-print?) of pictures/photos. Thanks, John

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RE: [Wlug] Samba PDC Question
by Keller, Tim Oct. 28, 2004

Oct. 28, 2004

Chuck, I'm not sure what versions of windows your have in your install base, however the easiest thing is to just configure them to download and install the patches themselves. As for the other programs, are these things that have to be "installed" or can they be raw copied out to the machines? If it's the latter, then you could just configure the login script stuff to run a local script that would check to see if it's already been run, if so do nothing, otherwise copy a bunch of files and import some registry keys, etc. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Haines [mailto:chaines@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:22 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Samba PDC Question Hello all, I'm running Samba 3 as my PDC for a large number of computers. What I'd like to be able to do is push out patches and programs to the computers that are logged into this domain. I know that with SMS and Windoze Active Directory I can do this, however I don't want to use Windows as my PDC. Does anyone know of any software I can use to accomplish this with samba? thanks, Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity http://www.tkezm.org WPI Class of 2005 http://www.wpi.edu ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Entry Level
by Micheal Bonner Oct. 28, 2004

Oct. 28, 2004

Hello all .. I am new to this city .. and I was wondering .. i am looking for something entry level in tech.. I have been working as a food manger for soo long and looking for a change .. something that might allow me to learn and grow ... something to get my foot in the door .. i have good knowledge of linux and window .. anything to help .. advice ?

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Samba PDC Question
by Chuck Haines Oct. 28, 2004

Oct. 28, 2004

Hello all, I'm running Samba 3 as my PDC for a large number of computers. What I'd like to be able to do is push out patches and programs to the computers that are logged into this domain. I know that with SMS and Windoze Active Directory I can do this, however I don't want to use Windows as my PDC. Does anyone know of any software I can use to accomplish this with samba? thanks, Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity http://www.tkezm.org WPI Class of 2005 http://www.wpi.edu ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 -------------------------------------------

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FC3 + weird gui issue...
by Keller, Tim Oct. 26, 2004

Oct. 26, 2004

I recently upgraded this machine (was running FC2) to FC3 test3. Everything works great, but I noticed one really odd anomaly. If I open up an app, and move it to the second head (this machine has duel monitors and is running Xinerama) it disappears from the task bar. Now if I pick the app up and move it back over to the primary monitor it reappears on the task bar. I've routed through the settings, and nothing *looks* amiss. Anybody got any ideas? Later, Tim.

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gmail invite
by Minkov, Ross Oct. 26, 2004

Oct. 26, 2004

Anyone got any gmail invites left? Send me one if you do. Thanks, Ross

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G-mail invites
by RV Oct. 21, 2004

Oct. 21, 2004

I guess my request might be late, but if yo9u have any invites left, I would love one. Thanks, Rafael

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RE: [Wlug] RH 7.3 ssh glitched after upgrade
by Martin, Eric Oct. 20, 2004

Oct. 20, 2004

In /etc/ssh/sshd_config, uncomment the logging lines, and turn logging to debug. That will give you a lot more info. You'll want to turn it off after, as according to the sshd_config man page "Debug violates user's privacy". One thing that just happened to me as I'm typing this: ssh would prompt me for a login, but wouldn't log me in. No log of the event, just dumped me out. I sent SIGHUP to it and everything is fine now. I'm sure you've tried restarting, but weird things happen. Also, make sure that: UsePAM=yes AllowRootLogin = Yes In you /etc/ssh/sshd_config -----Original Message----- From: Dick Goodman [mailto:wlug@goodman1.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:32 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] RH 7.3 ssh glitched after upgrade I have four RH 7.3 servers which had not been updated for a loooong time. I just found out about fedoralegacy.org, downloaded yum and did a "yum update" (excluding kernel) on all four systems. Everything seems fine, except.... when I log in between servers with ssh (any combination) I get two lines in the log similar to the following, whereas I used to only get the second one: Oct 19 18:10:08 archive3 sshd(pam_unix)[23780]: authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=NODEVssh ruser= rhost=h-68-167-xx-xxx.cmbrmaor.covad.net user=root Oct 19 18:10:11 archive3 sshd(pam_unix)[23780]: session opened for user root by (uid=0) I didn't make any config changes, in fact I've NEVER configured ssh, just using what was installed. I'm also getting a login delay following the first authentication failure. There is no failure message in the login panel, only in the log. I only log in once. /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts does not exist on any servers, and I didn't get the warning message I remember from first contact with a server (long ago, or after ISP changes). Any suggestions? Dick _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RH 7.3 ssh glitched after upgrade
by Dick Goodman Oct. 20, 2004

Oct. 20, 2004

I have four RH 7.3 servers which had not been updated for a loooong time. I just found out about fedoralegacy.org, downloaded yum and did a "yum update" (excluding kernel) on all four systems. Everything seems fine, except.... when I log in between servers with ssh (any combination) I get two lines in the log similar to the following, whereas I used to only get the second one: Oct 19 18:10:08 archive3 sshd(pam_unix)[23780]: authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=NODEVssh ruser= rhost=h-68-167-xx-xxx.cmbrmaor.covad.net user=root Oct 19 18:10:11 archive3 sshd(pam_unix)[23780]: session opened for user root by (uid=0) I didn't make any config changes, in fact I've NEVER configured ssh, just using what was installed. I'm also getting a login delay following the first authentication failure. There is no failure message in the login panel, only in the log. I only log in once. /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts does not exist on any servers, and I didn't get the warning message I remember from first contact with a server (long ago, or after ISP changes). Any suggestions? Dick

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Re: [Wlug] mounting a pen drive (usb)
by Ryan Caron Oct. 18, 2004

Oct. 18, 2004

Assuming you do not have any other usb devices hooked up to your laptop, adding the following line to your /etc/fstab will allow you to mount and use your pen drive as a non-root user: /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 vfat user,noauto,exec 0 0 Using this method, you will have to type "mount /mnt/sda1" when you insert it and "umount /mnt/sda1" when you are done. I cannot stress how important it is to unmount! Failure to do so will either leave your pen drive without the changes you made or with data corruption (I know this from experience) If anybody knows of a way for linux to mount automatically do this I am all ears (switching the noauto parameter to auto doesn't do the trick). Sincerely, Ryan Caron > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:55:05 -0400 > From: Walt Sawyer <wsawyer(a)norfolk-county.com> > Subject: [Wlug] mountng a pen drive (usb) > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <1097762105.2591.9.camel(a)localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain > > How do I get my SanDisk cruzer mini 256 mb pen drive to mount on my > Fedora Core 2 laptop? > Thanks in advance > Walt

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video confrencing
by Karl Hiramoto Oct. 18, 2004

Oct. 18, 2004

Was wondering if anyone could suggest a USB cam that works well with the video4linux API that will work with http://www.gnomemeeting.org/ Or if you had any other video conferencing SW or HW suggestions? Something both for me to use on linux and for the corprate managemet type of people to use. -- -- Karl Hiramoto karl at hiramoto dot org http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Mobile: 508.517.4819 Work: 978-425-2090

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Gmail invites - any left?
by Joel Desrochers Oct. 16, 2004

Oct. 16, 2004

Hi, If someone has an extra Gmail invite, I would appreciate one also. Thank you Joel Desrochers _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

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Re:FireFox
by Micheal Bonner Oct. 16, 2004

Oct. 16, 2004

Hello.. I am trying to make my firefox work with my Thunderbird but I dont understand one thing when you say.... Change the paths to point to this executable shell script: How do you do this ... is this a file or do you do it in konsole and what is the path that you should change it too .. thanks for your help .. and please forgive that i am a newbie

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RE: [Wlug] mounting a pen drive (usb)
by Martin, Eric Oct. 15, 2004

Oct. 15, 2004

Prob the automounter... There should be a dir /mnt/auto? I know knoppix uses that a lot -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:gma2004@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:32 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] mounting a pen drive (usb) SuSE 9.1 will automatically mount and unmount a pen drive, floppy disk or cd. I haven't yet figured out how it does that. Greg Ryan Caron wrote: > Assuming you do not have any other usb devices hooked up to your > laptop, > adding the following line to your /etc/fstab will allow you to mount and > use your pen drive as a non-root user: > > /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 vfat user,noauto,exec 0 0 > > Using this method, you will have to type "mount /mnt/sda1" when you > insert > it and "umount /mnt/sda1" when you are done. > > I cannot stress how important it is to unmount! Failure to do so will > either leave your pen drive without the changes you made or with data > corruption (I know this from experience) > > If anybody knows of a way for linux to mount automatically do this I > am > all ears (switching the noauto parameter to auto doesn't do the trick). > > Sincerely, > Ryan Caron > > > >>Message: 7 >>Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:55:05 -0400 >>From: Walt Sawyer <wsawyer(a)norfolk-county.com> >>Subject: [Wlug] mountng a pen drive (usb) >>To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >>Message-ID: <1097762105.2591.9.camel(a)localhost.localdomain> >>Content-Type: text/plain >> >>How do I get my SanDisk cruzer mini 256 mb pen drive to mount on my >>Fedora Core 2 laptop? Thanks in advance >>Walt > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] NFS question
by Don Peterson Oct. 15, 2004

Oct. 15, 2004

Jeff, Thanx for the continued feedback and suggestions, RHCM sounds cool but, I've read through some of the bug tracks on it and it sounds like there are some bad corruption problems when using it. It also sounds like there can be a considerable lag in the time it takes for the shares to come up on the secondary server. Are there many people using this in a production environment? Thanx, Don -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Moyer Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:48 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: RE: [Wlug] NFS question ==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] NFS question; "John Stoffel" <stoffel(a)lucent.com> adds: Don> Thanx for the info John. Unfortunately I can't use the Red Hat Don> GFS, it requires v3.0 and we cannot upgrade to that yet. stoffel> Since it's open source, can't you get it from stoffel> http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/gfs/ and see if it will stoffel> install on your systems? Sounds like he wants a supported solution. Don> I have been pushing for it, but Oracle won't give me an definite Don> answer as to whether their apps are certified for RH 3.0. stoffel> That's silly, but very understandable. From looking at your stoffel> corp website, I can see why you're interested in only deploying stoffel> supportable systems, esp in such a production environment. Don> We could go with Veritas' Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC, but Don> that would require considerable change, and no one here knows the software. Don> For the time being I'll probably have to go with a NAS device and Don> make it as redundant as possible. stoffel> I know Veritas. :] And I'm looking for a job. :] Well, I know stoffel> VxVM/VxFS quite well and I've been exposed to their Clustering stoffel> software as well. Good stuff all around. stoffel> But that doesn't solve the question here, which is how to get a stoffel> good reliable NFS file storage (would the storage be on the stoffel> SAN, or local to the server) for a good price. stoffel> Here's a thought, but a pair of cheap 2U servers and install stoffel> RHEL 3.0 along with the GFS filesystem and clustering software. stoffel> Export via NFS to the other servers. If one node goes down, stoffel> you've got a backup and failover. And it would give you stoffel> exposure/experience with RHEL 3.0, GFS and clustering so you stoffel> would be working to migrate the Oracle instances to the same stoffel> type of setup down the road. If you only need to server NFS, then you can do this without GFS. You can use GFS, and it will mean that clients can mount from either server, but it sounds like overkill for this case. You simply want failover of NFS filesystems, and that can be accomplished quite easily with AS 2.1 and RHCM. In fact, you can probably work this into your existing environment without buying any more hardware (and I think without purchasing new software licenses, too). -Jeff _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] mountng a pen drive (usb)
by Gina Minks Oct. 15, 2004

Oct. 15, 2004

= How do I get my SanDisk cruzer mini 256 mb pen drive to mount on my Fedora Core 2 laptop? Check to see if the pen has already been recognized by hotplug by checking for an entry in /etc/fstab If there is not an entry there, check to see if the OS recognizes the pen. Lots of places to check.. cat /etc/proc/scsi/scsi you should see: Attached devices: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: SanDisk Model: Cruzer Mini Rev: 0.1 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 or look for it in dmesg: dmesg | grep San Vendor: SanDisk Model: Cruzer Mini Rev: 0.1 or in /etc/sysconfig/hwconf: grep San hwconf desc: "SanDisk Corporation Cruzer Mini" usbmfr: SanDisk Corporation desc: "Sandisk Cruzer Mini" If the OS recognizes the pen, most likely updfstab does not have an entry for it. For RH9, entries for updfstab are in /etc/updfstab.conf.default This is the file hotplug uses to know what to write to the fstab file so you can mount the pen. I added an entry to the "flash" stanza: device flash { partition 1 match hd CompactFlash match hd ImageMate match hd SanDisk match hd "USB Drive" Once you add that, look in the fstab file to see if hotplug worked. You will still have to mount it, it should show up as /mnt/flash -Gina _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug ============================================================

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Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 12, Issue 11
by Arturo Oct. 15, 2004

Oct. 15, 2004

Cool, If there are any left I would love g-mail account as well! Arturo On 10/14/04 10:43 AM, "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: gmail invites (Brett Russ) > 2. Re: gmail invites (JONATHAN BEALL) > 3. RE: gmail invites (Don Peterson) > 4. Re: gmail invites (Casey Rankin) > 5. Re: gmail invites (Casey Rankin) > 6. RE: NFS question (Don Peterson) > 7. mountng a pen drive (usb) (Walt Sawyer) > 8. RE: NFS question (Jeff Moyer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 07:46:08 -0400 > From: Brett Russ <icycle(a)charter.net> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <416E6700.5080302(a)charter.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Micheal Bonner wrote: > >> I will Take one if you are handing them out please ... I would love to >> have one .. thanks. just Email what I need to do personal .. if not .. >> then thank you anyway > > Sent! > BR > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:48:54 -0400 > From: "JONATHAN BEALL" <joncbeall(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <BAY2-F41nrrXj7gC2DW00009215(a)hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://paramount.ind.wpi.edu/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20041014/8e909c59/a… > chment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:13:18 -0400 > From: "Don Peterson" <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com> > Subject: RE: [Wlug] gmail invites > To: "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <C410352A9903E540B8FBE58DAEDDC0916F162D(a)shomail2k.sterilite.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I would love one too if you guys have any left. > Thanx in advance... > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Brett Russ > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:49 PM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites > > Minkov, Ross wrote: > >> I could use one gmail invite... If there are any left...? >> >> >> > Sent! > BR > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:20:43 -0400 > From: Casey Rankin <caseyrankin(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <cd5bf44b041014062073122d74(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > sent. > > > On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:48:54 -0400, JONATHAN BEALL > <joncbeall(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> if anyone has an extra it would be greatly appreciated, hotmail is killing >> me lately. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Jonathan Beall >> >> >>> From: Micheal Bonner <BiggDaddyCool(a)peoplepc.com> >>> Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >>> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites >>> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 06:03:03 -0400 >> >> >>> >>> Minkov, Ross wrote: >>> >>>> I could use one gmail invite... If there are any left...? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ross >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org >>>> [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Chuck Haines >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:28 PM >>>> To: Worcester Linux Users Group >>>> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites >>>> >>>> >>>> Yea, I got 8 of them. >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:42:12 -0400, Mike Frysinger >>>> <vapier(a)gentoo.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wednesday 15 September 2004 06:35 pm, Brett Russ wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I have some to distribute. FCFS, serious inquiries only :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> yeah, i got 6 spare ones too >>>>> -mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wlug mailing list >>>>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I will Take one if you are handing them out please ... I would love >>>> to have one .. thanks. just Email what I need to do personal .. if >>>> not .. then thank you anyway >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:21:27 -0400 > From: Casey Rankin <caseyrankin(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <cd5bf44b041014062112a4e152(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > sent. > > > On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:13:18 -0400, Don Peterson > <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com> wrote: >> I would love one too if you guys have any left. >> Thanx in advance... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On >> Behalf Of Brett Russ >> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:49 PM >> To: Worcester Linux Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites >> >> Minkov, Ross wrote: >> >>> I could use one gmail invite... If there are any left...? >>> >>> >>> >> Sent! >> BR >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:24:49 -0400 > From: "Don Peterson" <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com> > Subject: RE: [Wlug] NFS question > To: <jmoyer(a)redhat.com>, "Worcester Linux Users Group" > <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <C410352A9903E540B8FBE58DAEDDC0916F165D(a)shomail2k.sterilite.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Jeff, > Thanx for the continued feedback and suggestions, RHCM sounds cool > but, I've read through some of the bug tracks on it and it sounds like > there are some bad corruption problems when using it. It also sounds > like there can be a considerable lag in the time it takes for the shares > to come up on the secondary server. Are there many people using this in > a production environment? > Thanx, > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Jeff Moyer > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:48 PM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: RE: [Wlug] NFS question > > ==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] NFS question; "John Stoffel" > <stoffel(a)lucent.com> adds: > > Don> Thanx for the info John. Unfortunately I can't use the Red Hat > Don> GFS, it requires v3.0 and we cannot upgrade to that yet. > > stoffel> Since it's open source, can't you get it from > stoffel> http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/gfs/ and see if it will > stoffel> install on your systems? > > Sounds like he wants a supported solution. > > Don> I have been pushing for it, but Oracle won't give me an definite > Don> answer as to whether their apps are certified for RH 3.0. > > stoffel> That's silly, but very understandable. From looking at your > stoffel> corp website, I can see why you're interested in only deploying > > stoffel> supportable systems, esp in such a production environment. > > Don> We could go with Veritas' Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC, but > Don> that would require considerable change, and no one here knows the > software. > Don> For the time being I'll probably have to go with a NAS device and > Don> make it as redundant as possible. > > stoffel> I know Veritas. :] And I'm looking for a job. :] Well, I know > > stoffel> VxVM/VxFS quite well and I've been exposed to their Clustering > stoffel> software as well. Good stuff all around. > > stoffel> But that doesn't solve the question here, which is how to get a > > stoffel> good reliable NFS file storage (would the storage be on the > stoffel> SAN, or local to the server) for a good price. > > stoffel> Here's a thought, but a pair of cheap 2U servers and install > stoffel> RHEL 3.0 along with the GFS filesystem and clustering software. > > stoffel> Export via NFS to the other servers. If one node goes down, > stoffel> you've got a backup and failover. And it would give you > stoffel> exposure/experience with RHEL 3.0, GFS and clustering so you > stoffel> would be working to migrate the Oracle instances to the same > stoffel> type of setup down the road. > > If you only need to server NFS, then you can do this without GFS. You > can use GFS, and it will mean that clients can mount from either server, > but it sounds like overkill for this case. You simply want failover of > NFS filesystems, and that can be accomplished quite easily with AS 2.1 > and RHCM. In fact, you can probably work this into your existing > environment without buying any more hardware (and I think without > purchasing new software licenses, too). > > -Jeff > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:55:05 -0400 > From: Walt Sawyer <wsawyer(a)norfolk-county.com> > Subject: [Wlug] mountng a pen drive (usb) > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <1097762105.2591.9.camel(a)localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain > > How do I get my SanDisk cruzer mini 256 mb pen drive to mount on my > Fedora Core 2 laptop? > Thanks in advance > Walt > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:09:56 -0400 > From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> > Subject: RE: [Wlug] NFS question > To: "Don Peterson" <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com> > Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <16750.34996.638953.41770(a)segfault.boston.redhat.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > ==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] NFS question; "Don Peterson" > <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com> adds: > > dpeterson> Jeff, Thanx for the continued feedback and suggestions, RHCM > dpeterson> sounds cool but, I've read through some of the bug tracks on it > dpeterson> and it sounds like there are some bad corruption problems when > dpeterson> using it. It also sounds like there can be a considerable lag > dpeterson> in the time it takes for the shares to come up on the secondary > dpeterson> server. Are there many people using this in a production > dpeterson> environment? > > Are you certain you are looking at the right product? In bugzilla, query > Product: Red Hat Enterprise Linux > Version: 2.1AS > Component: clumanager > > There are no open bugs. You are probably looking at the clustering > infrastructure related to GFS, which is a very new offerring for Red Hat. > > There are at least hundreds of deployments of AS2.1 and clumanager. As for > the lag, it is, of course, configurable (at least it was last I worked on > it, several years ago). There are a couple of components to this, of > course. First, how long does it take to detect a failure, and second, how > long does it take for application/filesystem recovery. Using a journaled > filesystem, you will see fairly quick recovery times on that end. To > simply failover NFS, you won't be looking at too much overhead. > > The one hardware component you may need to buy would be a fencing device. > > Hope this helps. > > -Jeff > > dpeterson> -----Original Message----- > From> wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > dpeterson> Behalf Of Jeff Moyer > Sent> Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:48 PM > To> Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject> RE: [Wlug] NFS question > > ==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] NFS question; "John Stoffel" >>> stoffel(a)lucent.com> adds: > > Don> Thanx for the info John. Unfortunately I can't use the Red Hat GFS, > Don> it requires v3.0 and we cannot upgrade to that yet. > > stoffel> Since it's open source, can't you get it from > stoffel> http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/gfs/ and see if it will install > stoffel> on your systems? > > dpeterson> Sounds like he wants a supported solution. > > Don> I have been pushing for it, but Oracle won't give me an definite > Don> answer as to whether their apps are certified for RH 3.0. > > stoffel> That's silly, but very understandable. From looking at your corp > stoffel> website, I can see why you're interested in only deploying > > stoffel> supportable systems, esp in such a production environment. > > Don> We could go with Veritas' Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC, but that > Don> would require considerable change, and no one here knows the > dpeterson> software. > Don> For the time being I'll probably have to go with a NAS device and make > Don> it as redundant as possible. > > stoffel> I know Veritas. :] And I'm looking for a job. :] Well, I know > > stoffel> VxVM/VxFS quite well and I've been exposed to their Clustering > stoffel> software as well. Good stuff all around. > > stoffel> But that doesn't solve the question here, which is how to get a > > stoffel> good reliable NFS file storage (would the storage be on the SAN, > stoffel> or local to the server) for a good price. > > stoffel> Here's a thought, but a pair of cheap 2U servers and install RHEL > stoffel> 3.0 along with the GFS filesystem and clustering software. > > stoffel> Export via NFS to the other servers. If one node goes down, > stoffel> you've got a backup and failover. And it would give you > stoffel> exposure/experience with RHEL 3.0, GFS and clustering so you would > stoffel> be working to migrate the Oracle instances to the same type of > stoffel> setup down the road. > > dpeterson> If you only need to server NFS, then you can do this without > dpeterson> GFS. You can use GFS, and it will mean that clients can mount > dpeterson> from either server, but it sounds like overkill for this case. > dpeterson> You simply want failover of NFS filesystems, and that can be > dpeterson> accomplished quite easily with AS 2.1 and RHCM. In fact, you > dpeterson> can probably work this into your existing environment without > dpeterson> buying any more hardware (and I think without purchasing new > dpeterson> software licenses, too). > > dpeterson> -Jeff _______________________________________________ Wlug > dpeterson> mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http> //mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 12, Issue 11 > ************************************ >

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Knoppix install question
by Patrick Sawyer Oct. 14, 2004

Oct. 14, 2004

Howdy, Thanks to everyone who helped with the linux install at the Worcester Computer Co Op. We got alot done. Im working on the "problem children" right now. what was the process for running the install script in knoppix? p

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RE: [Wlug] gmail invites
by Don Peterson Oct. 14, 2004

Oct. 14, 2004

I would love one too if you guys have any left. Thanx in advance... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Brett Russ Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:49 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites Minkov, Ross wrote: >I could use one gmail invite... If there are any left...? > > > Sent! BR _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
by JONATHAN BEALL Oct. 14, 2004

Oct. 14, 2004

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RE: [Wlug] gmail invites
by Minkov, Ross Oct. 14, 2004

Oct. 14, 2004

I could use one gmail invite... If there are any left...? Thanks, Ross -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Haines Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:28 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites Yea, I got 8 of them. Chuck On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:42:12 -0400, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > On Wednesday 15 September 2004 06:35 pm, Brett Russ wrote: > > I have some to distribute. FCFS, serious inquiries only :-) > > yeah, i got 6 spare ones too > -mike > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity WPI Class of 2005 ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] NFS question
by Don Peterson Oct. 13, 2004

Oct. 13, 2004

Thanx for the info John. Unfortunately I can't use the Red Hat GFS, it requires v3.0 and we cannot upgrade to that yet. I have been pushing for it, but Oracle won't give me an definite answer as to whether their apps are certified for RH 3.0. We could go with Veritas' Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC, but that would require considerable change, and no one here knows the software. For the time being I'll probably have to go with a NAS device and make it as redundant as possible. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of John Stoffel Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 9:28 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] NFS question Don> I have an Oracle 9i RAC set up consisting of 3 database servers, Don> two apps servers and an EMC Clarion CX700 SAN. The servers are all Don> running Red Hat 2.1, the db servers are at kernel .34 and the apps Don> servers are at .49. I have 5 nfs mount points shared out by the Don> first database server. This is the problem, the fact that you're using NFS in a clustered environment. Have you looked into using a Cluster Filesystem for your needs? Some options would be: http://www.redhat.com/software/rha/gfs/ It even mentions Oracle 9i in the blurb. Don> One mount point is for logs from the database servers (only they Don> connect to it), Why do they all need to log to one filesystem? Can't they log locally and if you want to aggregate the logs, you could rsync them hourly from the servers to a central log host. Don> and the others are for miscellaneous files and storage. We have Don> been doing failover testing, shutting down a database server and Don> seeing if the other two keep processing requests. We have a Don> problem when we shut down the first database server, the one Don> sharing the nfs volumes. The other two servers just hang trying to Don> connect to the shares. I have tried every option in my fstab file Don> to make the servers stop trying to reach the nfs shares if the Don> server is not available, but nothing has worked. Here is one of Don> the lines from the fstab file where I mount a share: Yeah, what you're trying to do isn't going to work without either: 1. moving to a Cluster Filesystem so that all hosts and read/write to the same filesystem on the Clarrion SAN concurrently. 2. moving to a Cluster setup where you have TWO servers in a cluster, and the cluster provides the NFS file service to other servers. 3. Getting a NAS box which provides NFS service to the DB servers and which has the require reliability you need. I personally like NetApps, but they can be pricey. But even with a single head, they're reliable and run well. I had one box with an uptime of almost 500 days. Oh yeah, UPS and Generator backup helps as well. *grin* You could get away with using another cheaper NAS, but since you spent the money on the SAN, why not just use that and GFS to provide the storage you need. Esp if most of the filesystems you provide are read (mostly) then you shouldn't have many problems. John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-952-7548 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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NFS question
by Don Peterson Oct. 13, 2004

Oct. 13, 2004

Hello All, I've been a slient member for awhile, now I have a question/problem I hope someone can answer. I have an Oracle 9i RAC set up consisting of 3 database servers, two apps servers and an EMC Clarion CX700 SAN. The servers are all running Red Hat 2.1, the db servers are at kernel .34 and the apps servers are at .49. I have 5 nfs mount points shared out by the first database server. One mount point is for logs from the database servers (only they connect to it), and the others are for miscellaneous files and storage. We have been doing failover testing, shutting down a database server and seeing if the other two keep processing requests. We have a problem when we shut down the first database server, the one sharing the nfs volumes. The other two servers just hang trying to connect to the shares. I have tried every option in my fstab file to make the servers stop trying to reach the nfs shares if the server is not available, but nothing has worked. Here is one of the lines from the fstab file where I mount a share: shoprod1:/applcsf /applcsf nfs soft,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,retrans=6,timeo=14,intr Can you see anything wrong with this line, or can anyone suggest something else to try. I can't even forceably unmount the shares with an umount -f. And if we try to kill any processes accessing the shares the kill command just hangs (even with a kill -9). Any suggestions? Thanx, Don Peterson Network/Telecomm Mgr. Sterilite Corporation

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Reminder: WLUG meeting Tonight (Wed Oct 13)
by Andy Stewart Oct. 13, 2004

Oct. 13, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, We'll be having a WLUG meeting tonight (Wed Oct 13) at 7:00 PM in the usual place. There isn't a single topic on the agenda, but here's what I'll cover to at least get a discussion started: 1) Update on the install fest with Worcester Computer Co-op, which was held this past Saturday 2) Update on the Linux adult education class I'm teaching 3) GNU FDL license and Debian's critique thereof (this could almost be a meeting by itself - maybe it should be???) 4) Upcoming meetings and guest speaker announcement 5) Any/all topics of interest brought up by other meeting attendees See ya tonight, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBbK81Hl0iXDssISsRAsY8AJ4wmo8AuS43XWgO4bPYLwR7Xb/BDwCaAn3D HDTqh9qAp7Rxx5o/EQ8wmSI= =mQlq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RE: [Wlug] NFS question
by Don Peterson Oct. 12, 2004

Oct. 12, 2004

I'm not sync'ing data, all three servers are writing logs to the share constantly (the applcsf share). We didn't buy Veritas volume manager, and we are not running Red Hat 3.0 yet, so I had to go with NFS for a shared file system. Believe me, I wish I didn't have to use NFS. I am looking into buying a NAS device to store the shares on, that way any of the servers can go down and the others won't be affected. But the NAS will still be a single point of failure. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Charles R. Anderson Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:22 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] NFS question On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 11:15:11AM -0400, Don Peterson wrote: > I mount a share: > shoprod1:/applcsf /applcsf nfs > soft,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,retrans=6,timeo=14,intr > Can you see anything wrong with this line, or can anyone suggest > something else to try. I can't even forceably unmount the shares with > an umount -f. > And if we try to kill any processes accessing the shares the kill > command just hangs (even with a kill -9). > Any suggestions? I don't think there is any good solution. Using the "soft" and "intr" mount options is an extremely bad idea. Do it only if you don't care about losing/corrupting your data. Important data should always be mounted "hard,nointr". Personally, I avoid NFS like the plague. I only use it for readonly mounts (where soft,intr is less of a problem). Instead, I've standardized on rsync over ssh with RSA keys to get data between servers that need to be synchronized. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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WLUG meeting to be moved to a new date
by Andy Stewart Oct. 9, 2004

Oct. 9, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, The WLUG meeting scheduled currently for Thursday, October 14 will not take place. I'm trying to move this meeting to a new date, and when I finalize that, I'll inform the membership. My apologize for doing this so close to the meeting date. Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBZzbIHl0iXDssISsRAj0qAJ0Ydf/IrQz1qM7Q3NjHLRJU8LJzRgCfTRMj CulceXQ0SjOcxAWLXVmRaLw= =OWk/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Worcester Computer Co-Op
by Patrick Sawyer Oct. 9, 2004

Oct. 9, 2004

Howdy, This is Patrick from the Worcester Computer Co - Op, as you may or may not know we are holding an install fest on Saturday the 9th, for the purpose of installing Linux on old machines that will be donated to members of the community. This information was sent out by Andy earlier. I can send you more information if anyone needs it. The main purpose of this message is to ask who was planning on attending. You don't need to tell me you can just show up, I just wanted to know. We can use all the help you can give! Patrick Sawyer

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FireFox
by Micheal Bonner Oct. 7, 2004

Oct. 7, 2004

Hello.. It is Micheal here.. I am useing Mandrake 10.0 and KDE 3.2 I have FireFox pr 1.0 and ThunderBird .8.. How can I make firefox see Link in ThunderBird and Visa Vera .. I guess I am saying " How do I make FireFox the Default Browser ?" Thanks for your help Micheal C.Bonner Newbie to the Second Power

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Internet service for newbies
by Patrick Sawyer Oct. 6, 2004

Oct. 6, 2004

This is in regards to the install fest that will be happening Saturday at the Worcester Computer Coop. These machines will be given to people with little computer experience / money. All they need for an Internet service is a very simple dial up. Has anyone tried Net zero for Lindows(linspire) and got it running under Linux? If not can someone recommend a good ISP. The cheaper the better. Thanks Patrick

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Searching for meeting topic
by Andy Stewart Oct. 6, 2004

Oct. 6, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, We have a WLUG meeting coming up in about a week, and as usual, I'm searching for a topic at the last minute. I'll certainly give an update to the group on our work with the Worcester Computer Co-op, but that won't take the whole meeting. I can also discuss some issues in which I've been personally involved with regard to which license to use on free documentation that I have written, but again, that won't take the whole meeting. I'd rather have a single complete topic for the meeting, so if anybody has any ideas and (even better!) wants to volunteer, please let me know. Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBY3HaHl0iXDssISsRAoIbAJ9RkISnXCXANxft2unzZic0h96ywQCgggIM 3iZiXdiymfD2WTt6AvszuSc= =lnN0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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SuSE Watcher
by Chuck Noyes Oct. 6, 2004

Oct. 6, 2004

Hi All, I just installed SuSE Server version 9 (my first SuSE installation) and I'd like to use the "Watcher" to get updates automatically, but I can't figure out what the "autorization" window wants. I know it's looking for a username/password pair, but what username/password?? I don't recall creating one, other than the usual 'root' and various users. Is there a "special" username & password that I should've created? Thanks, Chuck

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Mandrake Newbie
by Micheal Bonner Oct. 5, 2004

Oct. 5, 2004

Hello All . I am new. I am Micheal 34 m ( newly moved to Mass from Florida ) ... I am on Mandrake 10.0 and have been using Linux for only bout a 1 year now. Thank you for letting me in

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RE: [Wlug] WLUG Group event: Sat Oct 9th in Worcester
by Martin, Eric Oct. 4, 2004

Oct. 4, 2004

I can burn a few...Been meaning to do so anyway -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 1:16 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] WLUG Group event: Sat Oct 9th in Worcester -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, I visited the Worcester Computer Co-op on Saturday and had a great talk with Patrick Sawyer. There are approximately 15-20 machines that are in need of some TLC. The machines range from 100 MHz to just over 1 GHz as far as is known. Once the machines are proven to work and Linux is installed and configured, these machines will find homes with needy families in the neighborhood surrounding the St. Bernard's Church in Worcester. The Worcester Computer Co-op has their lab located within the church building. Patrick and I agreed that a hard drive installation of Knoppix would probably be a reasonable thing to do for several reasons, a) its Debian based, b) it has *everything*, c) the live CD feature, d) its pretty easy to install, e) it pretty easily handles non-English languages. My only concern is to insure that the hard drives on these machine are at least 3-4 GB to accommodate a full Knoppix install. As a backup, I would like at least one other distribution handy in case we get an ornery machine or an undersized hard drive. It would need to have some games, KDE or Gnome, and OpenOffice, at a minimum. Clearly, this isn't a good software selection for a 100MHz machine, so that's another reason to have another distro handy. (I don't think there were more than a couple of machines which were this slow). The event will take place from noon - 4 PM. I'll update the WLUG website shortly with directions and such. I'm looking for volunteers who will be able to attend and who wish to burn a few Knoppix V3.6 CDs. Please contact me before your burn anything or we'll likely end up with way too many CDs. The room where this event will be held is a pretty good size. There will be ample opportunity for unnamed WLUG members to trip on power cords and pull them out mid-installation. :-) Many folks have asked when we'd be having our next install fest - well, this is it! Come on over, have some fun, and help some needy families bridge the digital divide. Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBYNx/Hl0iXDssISsRAp0+AKCHXakOcwDzxXM437FolnfpcvPcagCdFx0Q WpAOmbvWVfTPxdeqMg9vbT4= =LTru -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] USB -> Parellel
by Martin, Eric Oct. 4, 2004

Oct. 4, 2004

Another thing I just thought of is to check the seperation rollers. They are little blue rollers that make sure you only get one sheet at a time. They should have ridges on them (like treads on a tire) they almost look like veins. If it is relatively smooth, there's your problem. They cost about $5 ea on HPs website -----Original Message----- From: J Schonberg [mailto:schonm@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 4:16 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] USB -> Parellel --- Chuck Homic <chuck(a)vvisions.com> wrote: > Hi, all... > > I inherited a HP Laserjet 1100 from work, recently. (This model's > failure mode is that you have to feed it one page at a time, since if > you put > multiple sheets in the tray, it will grab anywhere from 5 to 20 at > a time.) This is a known problem with a number of the printers in the HP Laserjet series. I currently have A LaserJet 3100 which is a printer/scanner/fax that I love because it's so simple to use. Unfortunately for a number of reasons, it is considered to be a boat anchor -- I.E. there is no linux support and never will be. As for your printer pulling multiple pages, what you need is a little piece of plastic not unlike that of a tab on a file folder. HP used to provide this in a recall that they did. If your printer has not been serviced with this little plastic piece, I don't know where you can get it now. Here's a discussion from 2002 which may be useful : http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/printer/7/6852.html And here's the problem report at HP : http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=bpl06 411 Good luck. Jason. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] USB -> Parellel
by Martin, Eric Oct. 4, 2004

Oct. 4, 2004

Once should do the trick. There are pickup rollers / d rollers, get a damp cloth (water) and wipe it down...process takes not even a minute. (The only rollers you have to get are the ones that pickup the paper) Also unplug printer first. I know it doesn't have to be said, but hey... -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Homic [mailto:chuck@vvisions.com] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:01 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] USB -> Parellel On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 02:10:20PM -0400, Martin, Eric wrote: > Try wetting the pickup rollers with a moist cloth (it might be a > static issue, we run a strict HP printer shop and that's a quick fix) Umm... how often do I do this, exactly? Sounds more annoying than hand-feeding it. :) -Chuck _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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WLUG Group event: Sat Oct 9th in Worcester
by Andy Stewart Oct. 4, 2004

Oct. 4, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, I was recently contacted by Patrick Sawyer, who represents the Worcester Computer Co-op (http://www.worcestercoop.org) He asked me if we would be interested in getting Linux installed on some computers, as well as building up some working computers out of existing parts. I thought this would be a great group event. This event will be on Saturday, October 9th, from noon to 4 PM (http://www.worcestercoop.org/directions.html) This location is 1.6 miles from WPI. Here is a quote from Patrick: ===start quote=== Here at the Worcester Computer Co Op our goal is to make computer technology available to those who cannot afford it. In addition to running a volunteer computer lab and teaching free classes, we take donated computers, install Linux on them, and distribute them to the community. We now have a large amount of computers and our volunteer base (myself included) is not as well versed in linux as we would like to be, or as is needed to complete this project. I am sending this email because we could use some help. Any time you could give would be appreciated. ===end quote=== I'll be visiting with Patrick this coming weekend to get a feel for how many volunteers can be accommodated, what we'll need for CDs, tools, extension cords, etc. Please reply if you are interested in volunteering and available to attend the event. I'll be sending out more details soon. Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBWjdbHl0iXDssISsRApXYAKCFbamjiXAqOYlGQXldbBTJ7fmHtACaA0cR dMnJEmwRb1hAJYGQFolOKbQ= =B6Ua -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Portmapper using incorrect ports - how to prevent?
by Bob George Oct. 2, 2004

Oct. 2, 2004

After suffering a power outage, I noticed spamassassin wouldn't start. I'd get: # /etc/init.d/spamassassin restart Restarting SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: No spamd found running; none killed. Could not create INET socket: Address already in use IO::Socket::INET: Address already in use After a bit of checking my configuration, and googling for spamassassin problems, I tried: # lsof -i :783 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME ypserv 1025 root 5u IPv4 2855 TCP *:spamd (LISTEN) Apparently ypserv grabbed the spamassassin tcp port 783 before spamd started. I fixed the problem by re-arranging the startup sequences in /etc/rc5.d and restarting everything: # lsof -i | egrep "(ypserv|spamd)" spamd 10626 spamd 5u IPv4 44885 TCP localhost:spamd (LISTEN) ypserv 10641 root 4u IPv4 45184 UDP *:643 ypserv 10641 root 5u IPv4 45244 TCP *:646 (LISTEN) I'm wondering if there's a better fix? Is there a way to restrict which ports are used by portmapper? Should I simply change portmap and dependent services to start later/last in the init sequence? - Bob

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USB -> Parellel
by Chuck Homic Oct. 1, 2004

Oct. 1, 2004

Hi, all... I inherited a HP Laserjet 1100 from work, recently. (This model's failure mode is that you have to feed it one page at a time, since if you put multiple sheets in the tray, it will grab anywhere from 5 to 20 at a time.) Anywho, it's a nice sweet printer, especially for the price. I'm using it at work with my WinXP box. However, I'd like to bring it home to use with my laptop. It has a parallel interface, and my slick, modern laptop is lacking this. (And I really don't feel like kicking up my 486 each time I want to print something!) Does anyone have any experience with one of those USB to parallel converter dealies? They seem pretty cheap, but I wonder about driver support and whatnot. The USS720 driver seems to be the only one I can find, I assume that Lucent sells that to anyone making such a device, so it's a matter of finding a list somewhere of devices using that chipset. Any ideas here? Thanks. -Chuck

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RE: [Wlug] USB -> Parellel
by Martin, Eric Oct. 1, 2004

Oct. 1, 2004

Try wetting the pickup rollers with a moist cloth (it might be a static issue, we run a strict HP printer shop and that's a quick fix) -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Homic [mailto:chuck@vvisions.com] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:22 PM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] USB -> Parellel Hi, all... I inherited a HP Laserjet 1100 from work, recently. (This model's failure mode is that you have to feed it one page at a time, since if you put multiple sheets in the tray, it will grab anywhere from 5 to 20 at a time.) Anywho, it's a nice sweet printer, especially for the price. I'm using it at work with my WinXP box. However, I'd like to bring it home to use with my laptop. It has a parallel interface, and my slick, modern laptop is lacking this. (And I really don't feel like kicking up my 486 each time I want to print something!) Does anyone have any experience with one of those USB to parallel converter dealies? They seem pretty cheap, but I wonder about driver support and whatnot. The USS720 driver seems to be the only one I can find, I assume that Lucent sells that to anyone making such a device, so it's a matter of finding a list somewhere of devices using that chipset. Any ideas here? Thanks. -Chuck _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Proxy closes connection
by Martin, Eric Oct. 1, 2004

Oct. 1, 2004

Glad to hear :) -----Original Message----- From: Michael Long [mailto:mlong@datalong.com] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 3:26 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: RE: [Wlug] Proxy closes connection Thanks for the tip. All is well now. > Check Keepalive in > /etc/ssh/sshd-config (on your server machine) > try setting it to 0, although that might give you phantom logins if > you have a shaky connection -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Long [mailto:mlong@datalong.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:11 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Proxy closes connection > > > Hi All, > > I am using openssh on cygwin along with ssh-tunnel (a pearl script > that uses IO and > IO::Select) to tunnel through a firewall in order to gain access to my > desktop at home. I have noticed that recently the behavior has changed > and my connection is broken after 3 seconds of inactivity. How do I, > a) find out what is causing the connection to be broken and/or b) keep > the connection alive. As long as I am actively feeding commands at the > shell prompt the connection stays alive. > > Tia, > Mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Proxy closes connection
by Martin, Eric Sept. 30, 2004

Sept. 30, 2004

Check Keepalive in /etc/ssh/sshd-config (on your server machine) try setting it to 0, although that might give you phantom logins if you have a shaky connection -----Original Message----- From: Michael Long [mailto:mlong@datalong.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:11 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Proxy closes connection Hi All, I am using openssh on cygwin along with ssh-tunnel (a pearl script that uses IO and IO::Select) to tunnel through a firewall in order to gain access to my desktop at home. I have noticed that recently the behavior has changed and my connection is broken after 3 seconds of inactivity. How do I, a) find out what is causing the connection to be broken and/or b) keep the connection alive. As long as I am actively feeding commands at the shell prompt the connection stays alive. Tia, Mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Proxy closes connection
by Michael Long Sept. 29, 2004

Sept. 29, 2004

Hi All, I am using openssh on cygwin along with ssh-tunnel (a pearl script that uses IO and IO::Select) to tunnel through a firewall in order to gain access to my desktop at home. I have noticed that recently the behavior has changed and my connection is broken after 3 seconds of inactivity. How do I, a) find out what is causing the connection to be broken and/or b) keep the connection alive. As long as I am actively feeding commands at the shell prompt the connection stays alive. Tia, Mike

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RE: [Wlug] WLUG Group event: Sat Oct 9th in Worcester
by Martin, Eric Sept. 29, 2004

Sept. 29, 2004

I'm interested. Do they have a preferred distro? -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:18 AM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Cc: Patrick Sawyer Subject: [Wlug] WLUG Group event: Sat Oct 9th in Worcester -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, I was recently contacted by Patrick Sawyer, who represents the Worcester Computer Co-op (http://www.worcestercoop.org) He asked me if we would be interested in getting Linux installed on some computers, as well as building up some working computers out of existing parts. I thought this would be a great group event. This event will be on Saturday, October 9th, from noon to 4 PM (http://www.worcestercoop.org/directions.html) This location is 1.6 miles from WPI. Here is a quote from Patrick: ===start quote=== Here at the Worcester Computer Co Op our goal is to make computer technology available to those who cannot afford it. In addition to running a volunteer computer lab and teaching free classes, we take donated computers, install Linux on them, and distribute them to the community. We now have a large amount of computers and our volunteer base (myself included) is not as well versed in linux as we would like to be, or as is needed to complete this project. I am sending this email because we could use some help. Any time you could give would be appreciated. ===end quote=== I'll be visiting with Patrick this coming weekend to get a feel for how many volunteers can be accommodated, what we'll need for CDs, tools, extension cords, etc. Please reply if you are interested in volunteering and available to attend the event. I'll be sending out more details soon. Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBWjdbHl0iXDssISsRApXYAKCFbamjiXAqOYlGQXldbBTJ7fmHtACaA0cR dMnJEmwRb1hAJYGQFolOKbQ= =B6Ua -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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PHP and .forward
by Chuck Haines Sept. 20, 2004

Sept. 20, 2004

Here is a question for you PHP fans out there. I'm attemping to create a webpage that will change, delete, create, etc a users .forward file. I want to do it in PHP and was curious if anyone knew of a current php script that would do this for me. I would write it myself, but why re-invent the wheel if I don't have to. Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity WPI Class of 2005 ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 -------------------------------------------

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RE: [Wlug] Local service/repair recommendations
by Martin, Eric Sept. 20, 2004

Sept. 20, 2004

You Do it Electronics down 128 has an ATX power supply tester for under $10...I also have one if you want to borrow it and Newegg should have one too. All you do is plug it in to your PS Motherboard connector, and flip the switch. If a green light comes on, it's good. It also has test points. -----Original Message----- From: Brett Russ [mailto:icycle@charter.net] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 9:19 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Local service/repair recommendations track(a)trackspace.com wrote: > Secondly, I jumped the 14 and 15 pins (with a bent paperclip) on the > ATX connector while leaving one HDD (and absolutely nothing else) > plugged in - nothing happened. If I understood you correctly, that > should at least power the HDD up? Are there any other visual/aural > clues that I'm looking for? I'd assume that both the PS fan and the HDD would spin up. You might not hear the HDD spinup, you might have to unmount it and feel for the gyro effect. But without the PS fan spinning, I doubt it's powering the drive. > Should the paperclip get warm assuming there's a current passing > through it? No, there shouldn't be current flowing through the clip. > When I plugged the cord in from the wall into the socket in the back > of the case, I did hear that "click" (for lack of a better word) you > hear when you plug anything into a socket. I know at least the juice > is getting into the box... I don't usually hear a click when plugging in a PS to the wall. Maybe this is a sign that it's bad. > Based on this, would you assume the power supply is the likely culprit > and that the next logical step would be to try testing my hardware on > another ATX power supply? My only concern is that the LED lights up, > which to me would mean the mobo is getting >>>some<<< power. I would definitely try another ATX supply if you can. At this point I am not sure what could be wrong if it's not the PS. BR _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Re: Recommended virtual private server (UML) hosting?
by Martin, Eric Sept. 20, 2004

Sept. 20, 2004

Cool, thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Bob George [mailto:mailings02@ttlexceeded.com] Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:52 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Re: Recommended virtual private server (UML) hosting? Martin, Eric wrote: >Vps? > > Virtual Private Server, using usermode linux (UML) or similar to provide a virtual dedicated host on which I can run as root and configure everything just the way I want it. Ideally with a dedicated IP which I can point reverse-DNS at. Much more control than with the typical, inexpensive hosting setup (cpanel, etc.) and for not much more per month. - Bob _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Need LSI 1030 IT for SCO 5.0.6
by aramico＠duahati.com Sept. 20, 2004

Sept. 20, 2004

Friends, Can somebody help me here... I need LSI 103o IT root disk controller driver for SCO 5.0.6 I have a new PC, HP ML 350 G4 that must be installed with SCO 5.0.6 but its said that no root risk controller found. I have done so many things to make it enable, but seem unsuccessful so far. I have download it from the internet and its still not much helpin' me. Thanks Aramico Note : Sorry that its a little bit far from Linux's case.

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FW: [Wlug] Local service/repair recommendations
by Clint Moyer Sept. 18, 2004

Sept. 18, 2004

-----Original Message----- From: Martin, Eric [mailto:MartinE@worc.k12.ma.us] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:12 AM To: 'Clint Moyer ' Subject: RE: [Wlug] Local service/repair recommendations Def, also, what's your video card? If you have a spare PCI video card kicking around I suggest you try that. I had a suped up machine that did that because the power supply wasn't beefy enough...also, do you have a power supply tester? What does the manual / website say about a red light? What's the manufacturer / model of the mobo? Eric -----Original Message----- From: Clint Moyer To: Worcester Linux Users Group Sent: 9/16/2004 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Local service/repair recommendations Start by trying to boot with the bare minimum components. Plug in only the CPU, one stick of RAM, video card, and keyboard. If you get absolutely nothing on the screen, try replacing memory first. > > From: track(a)trackspace.com > Date: 2004/09/15 Wed PM 07:21:44 EDT > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Local service/repair recommendations > > After unpacking my computer during a recent move, I have been having > serious hardware issues. Basically, the computer won't boot up and the > only output I get is a burning red LED on the motherboard when I turn it > on. I've checked all the connections, Googled my symptoms and even > reinstalled all hardware, piece by piece. Luckily, everything but the > processor is under warranty and I don't have a problems RMA'ing something > back to NewEgg. I just need to narrow the problem equipment down and I'm > the first to admit my lack of hardware knowledge. > > Can someone recommend a local shop that can at least diagnose the issue > and maybe run some hardware tests? Hell, I'd even be glad to pay someone > local on this mailing list to diagnose my problem. > > Anyways, I'm all ears... Thanks! > > --Track > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Recommended virtual private server (UML) hosting?
by Bob George Sept. 17, 2004

Sept. 17, 2004

I'm looking for an inexpensive vps hosting option (UML-based or similar) that will allow me full control over server configuration. Are there any that are recommended? Thanks, - Bob

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RE: [Wlug] For discussion: A Worthy LUG project? (was gmail invit es)
by Keller, Tim Sept. 17, 2004

Sept. 17, 2004

I don't see where hosting would much of a problem at all. The trick is to charge for it. WLUG members who wanted an account on the box would each pay in a couple bucks a month and that money would be used to pay to host the box. If somebody had a decent speakeasy type (allows servers, has decent bandwidth) account, that money could be used to pay the electric bill for the box(s), add capacity, etc. Then you host an webpage,distro respository,irc channel, etc. off of it. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Haines [mailto:chaines@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:04 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] For discussion: A Worthy LUG project? (was gmail invit es) I'd definitely be interested, but I agree, hosting would be the big issue. Chuck On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:03:27 -0400, Martin, Eric <martine(a)worc.k12.ma.us> wrote: > I like the idea, could be fun! However, I think hosting would be the > biggest hump... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob George [mailto:mailings02@ttlexceeded.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 4:55 PM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: [Wlug] For discussion: A Worthy LUG project? (was gmail invites) > > Frank Sweetser wrote: > > >>[...] > >>Is there a benefit to having a gmail account, other than the free > >>space? > > > > Gmail actually is pretty neat. The whole archive and search vs > > folders takes a little getting used to, but I think they implemented > > it pretty nicely. It ends up giving you a very flexible view of your > > email archives. > > > > Oh yeah, and it's about an order of magnitutde faster than any other > > webmail service I've tried =) > > As a long time Linux enthusiast, I've never quite understood the thrill > of having 1GB of my personal data stored on someone else's server, much > less on one that is hosted by a company that -- while mostly playing > nice now -- reserves the right to do whatever with that data later. > > I've also not understood why that would be any more attractive than the > building of a (better, faster, bigger) server of my own, particularly > given the wealth of tools available to us GPL. > > On the BLU list recently, there was much discussion about building a > cluster, but plans stalled when the reality of power and HVAC were > detailed. However, hosting a box or two somewhere didn't seem to be an > issue. > > So... For the tech-minded but still willing to store personal stuff > outside, wouldn't a secure, private (as in gpg) and shared Gmail > alternative make a good LUG project? > > I know many folks are looking for ways to get experience doing > real-world things, and enough of us probably are interested in specific > aspects of this to be involved at varying levels. Others may have > hardware available for dontation. > > So... > 1.) Is there interest in something like this > 2.) Where could it be housed/hosted and what would it cost? > > Advantages I see are: > 1.) A cool LUG project. I haven't heard of anyone doing this, and it > makes for a nice "Gmail? Hah!" response at techie gatherings. > 2.) A good hands-on project for the curious (apache, webmail, gpg/pgp, > spamassassin, system hardening, procmail, php/whatever, mysql, etc.) > 3.) We can address Gmail shortcomings > 4.) We can enhance security and privacy (gpg/pgp, encrypted data and > other options come to mind) > 5.) We can allow users more direct (and effective) spam control > (spamassassin, milters come to mind -- allow each user more control!) > 6.) We can allow POP/IMAP access to/from the server (secure SMTP?) > 7.) A good place to store LUG files etc. (be good now) > 8.) Cool WLUG domain names! > > Disadvantages abound of course: > 1.) Time - Effort to get started, and over the hump > 2.) Money - Hosting primarily > 3.) Support - Who'll fix it > 4.) Scalability - Will it be killed by success? How much room can be > allocated per-user? How big of a box before it buckles? > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity WPI Class of 2005 ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] For discussion: A Worthy LUG project? (was gmail invit es)
by Martin, Eric Sept. 17, 2004

Sept. 17, 2004

I like the idea, could be fun! However, I think hosting would be the biggest hump... -----Original Message----- From: Bob George [mailto:mailings02@ttlexceeded.com] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 4:55 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] For discussion: A Worthy LUG project? (was gmail invites) Frank Sweetser wrote: >>[...] >>Is there a benefit to having a gmail account, other than the free >>space? > > Gmail actually is pretty neat. The whole archive and search vs > folders takes a little getting used to, but I think they implemented > it pretty nicely. It ends up giving you a very flexible view of your > email archives. > > Oh yeah, and it's about an order of magnitutde faster than any other > webmail service I've tried =) As a long time Linux enthusiast, I've never quite understood the thrill of having 1GB of my personal data stored on someone else's server, much less on one that is hosted by a company that -- while mostly playing nice now -- reserves the right to do whatever with that data later. I've also not understood why that would be any more attractive than the building of a (better, faster, bigger) server of my own, particularly given the wealth of tools available to us GPL. On the BLU list recently, there was much discussion about building a cluster, but plans stalled when the reality of power and HVAC were detailed. However, hosting a box or two somewhere didn't seem to be an issue. So... For the tech-minded but still willing to store personal stuff outside, wouldn't a secure, private (as in gpg) and shared Gmail alternative make a good LUG project? I know many folks are looking for ways to get experience doing real-world things, and enough of us probably are interested in specific aspects of this to be involved at varying levels. Others may have hardware available for dontation. So... 1.) Is there interest in something like this 2.) Where could it be housed/hosted and what would it cost? Advantages I see are: 1.) A cool LUG project. I haven't heard of anyone doing this, and it makes for a nice "Gmail? Hah!" response at techie gatherings. 2.) A good hands-on project for the curious (apache, webmail, gpg/pgp, spamassassin, system hardening, procmail, php/whatever, mysql, etc.) 3.) We can address Gmail shortcomings 4.) We can enhance security and privacy (gpg/pgp, encrypted data and other options come to mind) 5.) We can allow users more direct (and effective) spam control (spamassassin, milters come to mind -- allow each user more control!) 6.) We can allow POP/IMAP access to/from the server (secure SMTP?) 7.) A good place to store LUG files etc. (be good now) 8.) Cool WLUG domain names! Disadvantages abound of course: 1.) Time - Effort to get started, and over the hump 2.) Money - Hosting primarily 3.) Support - Who'll fix it 4.) Scalability - Will it be killed by success? How much room can be allocated per-user? How big of a box before it buckles? _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] For discussion: A Worthy LUG project? (was gmail invites)
by JONATHAN BEALL Sept. 17, 2004

Sept. 17, 2004

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RE: [Wlug] Recommended virtual private server (UML) hosting?
by Martin, Eric Sept. 17, 2004

Sept. 17, 2004

Vps? -----Original Message----- From: Mike Frysinger [mailto:vapier@gentoo.org] Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 11:16 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Recommended virtual private server (UML) hosting? On Friday 17 September 2004 10:12 am, Bob George wrote: > I'm looking for an inexpensive vps hosting option (UML-based or > similar) that will allow me full control over server configuration. Are there any > that are recommended? i use bytemark (www.bytemark.co.uk) and they're pretty good ... had them for almost a year now ... -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] For discussion: A Worthy LUG project? (was gmail invit es)
by Keller, Tim Sept. 17, 2004

Sept. 17, 2004

There weren't any notes since I did a live demo... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Michelle Vadeboncoeur [mailto:mrv@kluge.net] Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 1:23 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: RE: [Wlug] For discussion: A Worthy LUG project? (was gmail invites) On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, JONATHAN BEALL wrote: JB>Sorry, i missed the last meeting (High Holydays). i was really interested JB>in the Gentoo meeting, and had wanted to ask if anyone in the group is JB>currently running MythTV... JB> JB>I have an older sony viao, that has some mildly difficult hardware to JB>detect, and wanted to buy a videocard and make it a PVR. JB> JB>anyone have any thoughts? and a summary of the gentoo install? i JB>considered it once, but was scared away... =) taken from: http://www.wlug.org/slides.html <quote> Live Demo: A Linux Digital Video Recorder (April 16, 2003) Presented by Tim Keller WLUG member Tim Keller spoke about his experience building a digital video recorder using a video capture card and the Myth TV software. Tim mentioned that any video capture card which is supported by Video4Linux should work with Myth TV. (Other video capture cards may also work). As a video source, Tim used his Nintendo. </quote> very little more info is in this thread from the same time: http://paramount.ind.wpi.edu/pipermail/wlug/2003-April/002747.html Sorry, I wasn't at the last meeting, and notes from it doesn't seem to have made it to the wlug website yet... -- --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Local service/repair recommendations
by Martin, Eric Sept. 17, 2004

Sept. 17, 2004

Had the same problem. I needed a 450W power supply. The video card is wicked intensive. I built a machine with similar specs...Try a PCI video card and it should work fine -----Original Message----- From: track(a)trackspace.com [mailto:track@trackspace.com] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 5:30 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Local service/repair recommendations Thank you for all that responded. I'll try to summarize the answers to all the follow-up questions in one reply. When I turn the power on, nothing happens except a red LED on the motherboard lights up. The CPU fan doesn't spin, the computer doesn't beep - nothing (so no beeps or POST codes). The weird thing is that when I turn the power switch off, the LED stays lit for another 5-6 seconds. I'm not sure if that means anything though... In case it matters, the mobo is an Abit NF7 with a single DIMM of 512MB RAM (Crucial), an AMD Athlon 2400+ processor, an ATI Radeon 9600XT video card and it's powered by a 400W power supply. I bought all the parts from New Egg about 7 months ago, put it together and haven't had a single problem save for this. I've tried running it bare bones and moving the DIMM into a different slot. I have a spare computer, but the connector from the power supply doesn't seem to have the same plug as the one on my board. I don't have any extra RAM or a processor to try swapping things out with unfortunately. I've tried Googling the symptoms and the red LED on the mobo to no avail. It seems the only mention of the red LED problem was answered with the typical "check your connections, the mobo's fried, etc..." - no real diagnostics. I stopped in at a computer shop on 122A in Holden this afternoon and was quoted a $35 "bench fee" for taking a look at it and $75/hr to do any work. Like I said before, all the parts are still under warranty through New Egg and I'd happily send them back but I need to figure out what's not working. And I realize this is a Linux list and this is kind of off-topic. That being said, you folks are pretty bright and knowledgable so I figured I'd throw this out there. I do appreciate all the suggestions/comments so far. Thanks, Track _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: Re: [Wlug] Local service/repair recommendations
by Clint Moyer Sept. 16, 2004

Sept. 16, 2004

The LED is +5V indicator. It's not likely a power supply problem. There are probably fans on the northbridge chip and CPU. Do they spin up? Bad memory can cause all kinds of flaky problems. Do you have a different stick you can try? At the very least, try booting with the DIMM slots empty and see if it behaves differently. If you'd like, contact me off list and I may be able to give it a try. I work for beer. ;) Clint > > From: track(a)trackspace.com > Date: 2004/09/16 Thu PM 05:30:21 EDT > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Local service/repair recommendations > > Thank you for all that responded. I'll try to summarize the answers to > all the follow-up questions in one reply. > > When I turn the power on, nothing happens except a red LED on the > motherboard lights up. The CPU fan doesn't spin, the computer doesn't > beep - nothing (so no beeps or POST codes). The weird thing is that when > I turn the power switch off, the LED stays lit for another 5-6 seconds. > I'm not sure if that means anything though... > > In case it matters, the mobo is an Abit NF7 with a single DIMM of 512MB > RAM (Crucial), an AMD Athlon 2400+ processor, an ATI Radeon 9600XT video > card and it's powered by a 400W power supply. I bought all the parts from > New Egg about 7 months ago, put it together and haven't had a single > problem save for this. > > I've tried running it bare bones and moving the DIMM into a different > slot. I have a spare computer, but the connector from the power supply > doesn't seem to have the same plug as the one on my board. I don't have > any extra RAM or a processor to try swapping things out with > unfortunately. > > I've tried Googling the symptoms and the red LED on the mobo to no avail. > It seems the only mention of the red LED problem was answered with the > typical "check your connections, the mobo's fried, etc..." - no real > diagnostics. > > I stopped in at a computer shop on 122A in Holden this afternoon and was > quoted a $35 "bench fee" for taking a look at it and $75/hr to do any > work. Like I said before, all the parts are still under warranty through > New Egg and I'd happily send them back but I need to figure out what's not > working. > > And I realize this is a Linux list and this is kind of off-topic. That > being said, you folks are pretty bright and knowledgable so I figured I'd > throw this out there. I do appreciate all the suggestions/comments so > far. > > Thanks, > Track > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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gmail invites
by Brett Russ Sept. 16, 2004

Sept. 16, 2004

I have some to distribute. FCFS, serious inquiries only :-) BR

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Re: [Wlug] Local service/repair recommendations
by Clint Moyer Sept. 16, 2004

Sept. 16, 2004

Start by trying to boot with the bare minimum components. Plug in only the CPU, one stick of RAM, video card, and keyboard. If you get absolutely nothing on the screen, try replacing memory first. > > From: track(a)trackspace.com > Date: 2004/09/15 Wed PM 07:21:44 EDT > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Local service/repair recommendations > > After unpacking my computer during a recent move, I have been having > serious hardware issues. Basically, the computer won't boot up and the > only output I get is a burning red LED on the motherboard when I turn it > on. I've checked all the connections, Googled my symptoms and even > reinstalled all hardware, piece by piece. Luckily, everything but the > processor is under warranty and I don't have a problems RMA'ing something > back to NewEgg. I just need to narrow the problem equipment down and I'm > the first to admit my lack of hardware knowledge. > > Can someone recommend a local shop that can at least diagnose the issue > and maybe run some hardware tests? Hell, I'd even be glad to pay someone > local on this mailing list to diagnose my problem. > > Anyways, I'm all ears... Thanks! > > --Track > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Local service/repair recommendations
by track＠trackspace.com Sept. 16, 2004

Sept. 16, 2004

After unpacking my computer during a recent move, I have been having serious hardware issues. Basically, the computer won't boot up and the only output I get is a burning red LED on the motherboard when I turn it on. I've checked all the connections, Googled my symptoms and even reinstalled all hardware, piece by piece. Luckily, everything but the processor is under warranty and I don't have a problems RMA'ing something back to NewEgg. I just need to narrow the problem equipment down and I'm the first to admit my lack of hardware knowledge. Can someone recommend a local shop that can at least diagnose the issue and maybe run some hardware tests? Hell, I'd even be glad to pay someone local on this mailing list to diagnose my problem. Anyways, I'm all ears... Thanks! --Track

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RE: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting
by Martin, Eric Sept. 15, 2004

Sept. 15, 2004

I'll give a go if its gonna be round table as well -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Caron [mailto:rcaron@WPI.EDU] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 11:46 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting I too will talk about Gentoo in this round table format. Some lessons learned from my experience with Gentoo over the past year could prevent people from making the same mistakes that I did. Ryan Caron > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:58:28 -0400 > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting > To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <200409122058.37105.andystewart(a)comcast.net> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > HI Everybody, > > Our next WLUG meeting will be held on Wednesday, Sept. 15th at 7:00 PM > in the > Access Grid room at WPI. Directions can be found on the WLUG website. > > This meeting's topic will be "Gentoo". You can find more info here: > http://www.gentoo.org/ > > We have a couple of people who have volunteered to bring in their > Gentoo > machines. I would encourage anybody who has used Gentoo to come and teach > those of us who are less familiar. > > Since nobody has (yet) volunteered to give a talk, I hope that enough > people > with Gentoo experience will be at the meeting, and we can have sort of a > "round table" (as it were) discussion. > > See ya there! > > Andy > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFBRPC7Hl0iXDssISsRApOWAJ9wCT4gnoBL7ILSCba6DvjGf102ogCfbdKi > p3V/9ZylvDoWJTrSCRa9DPg= > =SI01 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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linux vpn client?
by Keller, Tim Sept. 14, 2004

Sept. 14, 2004

I've done the obligatory googling and so far I've come up with snake eyes. I'm looking for a VPN client for linux that'll work with a SecurID. Thanks, Tim.

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Upcoming meeting
by Andy Stewart Sept. 13, 2004

Sept. 13, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Our next WLUG meeting will be held on Wednesday, Sept. 15th at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room at WPI. Directions can be found on the WLUG website. This meeting's topic will be "Gentoo". You can find more info here: http://www.gentoo.org/ We have a couple of people who have volunteered to bring in their Gentoo machines. I would encourage anybody who has used Gentoo to come and teach those of us who are less familiar. Since nobody has (yet) volunteered to give a talk, I hope that enough people with Gentoo experience will be at the meeting, and we can have sort of a "round table" (as it were) discussion. See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBRPC7Hl0iXDssISsRApOWAJ9wCT4gnoBL7ILSCba6DvjGf102ogCfbdKi p3V/9ZylvDoWJTrSCRa9DPg= =SI01 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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VPN Client
by Mike Leo Sept. 13, 2004

Sept. 13, 2004

I think this client does support SecurID...its helpfile lists RSA SecurID a few times in the Authentication seccion. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting
by Ryan Caron Sept. 13, 2004

Sept. 13, 2004

I too will talk about Gentoo in this round table format. Some lessons learned from my experience with Gentoo over the past year could prevent people from making the same mistakes that I did. Ryan Caron > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:58:28 -0400 > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting > To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <200409122058.37105.andystewart(a)comcast.net> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > HI Everybody, > > Our next WLUG meeting will be held on Wednesday, Sept. 15th at 7:00 PM in the > Access Grid room at WPI. Directions can be found on the WLUG website. > > This meeting's topic will be "Gentoo". You can find more info here: > http://www.gentoo.org/ > > We have a couple of people who have volunteered to bring in their Gentoo > machines. I would encourage anybody who has used Gentoo to come and teach > those of us who are less familiar. > > Since nobody has (yet) volunteered to give a talk, I hope that enough people > with Gentoo experience will be at the meeting, and we can have sort of a > "round table" (as it were) discussion. > > See ya there! > > Andy > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFBRPC7Hl0iXDssISsRApOWAJ9wCT4gnoBL7ILSCba6DvjGf102ogCfbdKi > p3V/9ZylvDoWJTrSCRa9DPg= > =SI01 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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WLUG IRC channel
by Charles R. Anderson Sept. 13, 2004

Sept. 13, 2004

Come one, come all! Bob George has acquired a new IRC channel for us to replace #wlug which had been abandoned but still controlled by Western LUG, http://www.westernlug.org/. Join us at our new IRC home: Connect to: irc.freenode.net /join #wlug-ma Hope to see some of you soon!

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Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 11, Issue 11
by Ryan Caron Sept. 10, 2004

Sept. 10, 2004

I have a laptop that I want to do a Gentoo install on. We could use that for showing a stage3 "fast" install and switch to Mike's small form factor for post-install. I also have a small form factor PC I could bring in that has Gentoo on it if necessary. I think discussing what makes Gentoo unique, its pros and cons, will be great. If we're going to discuss why distro is better (or worse) than other than I say Debian. I say this because the "pretty" distros (SuSe, Mandrake, Fedora) are too different for a fair comparison. I also say this because I switched to Gentoo after trying a little bit of Debian. Sincerely, Ryan Caron > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:31:38 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting... > To: andystewart(a)comcast.net, Worcester Linux Users Group > <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <20040910143138.35900.qmail(a)web51309.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I have a recently installed Gentoo on a small form > factor PC i can volunteer...its much easier to carry > around than a big machine is. > > I suspect the meeting would be a begining the Gentoo > install and since there isnt enough time to wait, we > can cut over to an installed system. > > I don't mind sharing what I know, but I know nothing > more then what it looks like at the end. > > Let me know and I can plan to bring this machine in. > > thanks > Mike > > > > --- Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > Wow...time flies...its nearly meeting time again. > > > > Based on what I saw on the mailing list recently, > > I'm wondering if we should > > have a "Gentoo" meeting. Who would like to > > volunteer to do this (it could be > > more than one)? Here is a possible outline: > > > > - what is Gentoo? > > - why Gentoo vs. <pick_another_distro>? > > - demo an install (albeit a "shortcut" with > > everything precompiled) > > - pros / cons > > - cool features! > > > > Perhaps one person could give the group an overview, > > while a couple of other > > people demo other aspects of Gentoo. > > > > To those of you already running Gentoo: does this > > make sense? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andy > > - -- > > Andy Stewart, Founder > > Worcester Linux Users' Group > > Worcester, MA USA > > http://www.wlug.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > iD8DBQFBQRvPHl0iXDssISsRApljAJ4lUVUWMM/mKWLvXcEtHiwkniWZdACfaID5 > > g9XYdO5QsHdWMmAJUuWuWIk= > > =SQOI > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 11, Issue 11
by Ryan Caron Sept. 10, 2004

Sept. 10, 2004

> Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:31:38 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting... > To: andystewart(a)comcast.net, Worcester Linux Users Group > <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <20040910143138.35900.qmail(a)web51309.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I have a recently installed Gentoo on a small form > factor PC i can volunteer...its much easier to carry > around than a big machine is. > > I suspect the meeting would be a begining the Gentoo > install and since there isnt enough time to wait, we > can cut over to an installed system. > > I don't mind sharing what I know, but I know nothing > more then what it looks like at the end. > > Let me know and I can plan to bring this machine in. > > thanks > Mike > > > > --- Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > Wow...time flies...its nearly meeting time again. > > > > Based on what I saw on the mailing list recently, > > I'm wondering if we should > > have a "Gentoo" meeting. Who would like to > > volunteer to do this (it could be > > more than one)? Here is a possible outline: > > > > - what is Gentoo? > > - why Gentoo vs. <pick_another_distro>? > > - demo an install (albeit a "shortcut" with > > everything precompiled) > > - pros / cons > > - cool features! > > > > Perhaps one person could give the group an overview, > > while a couple of other > > people demo other aspects of Gentoo. > > > > To those of you already running Gentoo: does this > > make sense? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andy > > - -- > > Andy Stewart, Founder > > Worcester Linux Users' Group > > Worcester, MA USA > > http://www.wlug.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > iD8DBQFBQRvPHl0iXDssISsRApljAJ4lUVUWMM/mKWLvXcEtHiwkniWZdACfaID5 > > g9XYdO5QsHdWMmAJUuWuWIk= > > =SQOI > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 11, Issue 11 > ************************************ > >

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Upcoming meeting...
by Andy Stewart Sept. 10, 2004

Sept. 10, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody, Wow...time flies...its nearly meeting time again. Based on what I saw on the mailing list recently, I'm wondering if we should have a "Gentoo" meeting. Who would like to volunteer to do this (it could be more than one)? Here is a possible outline: - what is Gentoo? - why Gentoo vs. <pick_another_distro>? - demo an install (albeit a "shortcut" with everything precompiled) - pros / cons - cool features! Perhaps one person could give the group an overview, while a couple of other people demo other aspects of Gentoo. To those of you already running Gentoo: does this make sense? Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBQRvPHl0iXDssISsRApljAJ4lUVUWMM/mKWLvXcEtHiwkniWZdACfaID5 g9XYdO5QsHdWMmAJUuWuWIk= =SQOI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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NFS Trouble
by Chuck Haines Sept. 9, 2004

Sept. 9, 2004

I have an interesting problem that is occuring. I have a /home directory on a file server and I have several login servers that mount this /home directory via NFS. Now this /home directory has a ton of files and directorys (about 2000 user accounts). I noticed that when I perform a copy of a large file ( I tested with a 50 MB file) on a login server from something like /tmp to the NFS mounted /home, the load average on the file server jumps up to over 7, and seems to take forever (around 3-4 minutes). If I copy a large file (once again I tested with 50 MB) from the NFS mounted /home to like /tmp on the login server, there is no noticable load average increase and it occurs in approximately 10-15 seconds. So it seems that writes to the NFS mounted /home are taking longer than they should and are spiking the load average. Both the file server and the login servers are dual P3's with 2 gigs of ram. Has anyone ever seen anything like this, or knows of any solutions to this problem? Thanks, Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity WPI Class of 2005 ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 -------------------------------------------

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RE: [Wlug] NFS Trouble
by Keller, Tim Sept. 9, 2004

Sept. 9, 2004

What's the disk like on the nfs server? If it's all software based RAID, writing is going to be really expensive CPU wise vs. reading. Though even with that said, I can't see where a 50 meg file would put a load of 7 on a box. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Dwight A. Ernest [mailto:dwight@significant.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 12:24 PM To: Chuck Haines; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] NFS Trouble With what options did you mount the volume on the client? Chuck Haines wrote: > I have an interesting problem that is occuring. I have a /home > directory on a file server and I have several login servers that mount > this /home directory via NFS. Now this /home directory has a ton of > files and directorys (about 2000 user accounts). I noticed that when > I perform a copy of a large file ( I tested with a 50 MB file) on a > login server from something like /tmp to the NFS mounted /home, the > load average on the file server jumps up to over 7, and seems to take > forever (around 3-4 minutes). If I copy a large file (once again I > tested with 50 MB) from the NFS mounted /home to like /tmp on the > login server, there is no noticable load average increase and it > occurs in approximately 10-15 seconds. So it seems that writes to the > NFS mounted /home are taking longer than they should and are spiking > the load average. Both the file server and the login servers are dual > P3's with 2 gigs of ram. Has anyone ever seen anything like this, or > knows of any solutions to this problem? > > Thanks, > Chuck > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Fwd: [Wlug] NFS Trouble
by Chuck Haines Sept. 9, 2004

Sept. 9, 2004

Meant to sent this to the whole list. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 13:44:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [Wlug] NFS Trouble To: jmoyer(a)redhat.com Server: Kernel = 2.4.21-15.ELsmp nfs-util = 1.0.6-21EL Client: Kernel = 2.4.21-15.ELsmp nfs-util = 1.0.6-21EL Both machines are running RedHat Advance Server 3.0 ( Taroon Update 2). When performing the copy, top on the server loops like this after about 75% of the transfer: 13:43:19 up 26 days, 6:05, 2 users, load average: 7.19, 3.30, 1.62 125 processes: 124 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: cpu user nice system irq softirq iowait idle total 0.2% 0.0% 1.6% 0.0% 0.4% 48.3% 49.3% cpu00 0.0% 0.0% 1.6% 0.0% 0.0% 66.6% 31.6% cpu01 0.4% 0.0% 1.6% 0.0% 0.8% 30.0% 67.0% Mem: 2061576k av, 2044428k used, 17148k free, 0k shrd, 351044k buff 1425940k actv, 270704k in_d, 31124k in_c Swap: 1052248k av, 19780k used, 1032468k free 1371100k cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME CPU COMMAND 24242 bkmcd 15 0 4648 4220 3012 S 0.4 0.2 0:03 1 smbd 165 root 17 0 0 0 0 SW 0.2 0.0 26:10 0 raid5d 4783 root 15 0 0 0 0 DW 0.2 0.0 80:48 0 nfsd 4790 root 15 0 0 0 0 DW 0.2 0.0 80:29 1 nfsd 4788 root 15 0 0 0 0 DW 0.2 0.0 82:35 0 nfsd 4785 root 15 0 0 0 0 DW 0.2 0.0 80:40 0 nfsd 4784 root 15 0 0 0 0 DW 0.2 0.0 81:18 1 nfsd 24515 chaines 15 0 1256 1256 900 R 0.2 0.0 0:00 0 top 1 root 15 0 508 468 448 S 0.0 0.0 0:24 0 init 2 root RT 0 0 0 0 SW 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 migration/0 As you can see, most of the CPU is in an IO wait state. Hope this helps, Chuck On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 12:54:28 -0400, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> wrote: > ==> Regarding [Wlug] NFS Trouble; Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> adds: > > chaines> I have an interesting problem that is occuring. I have a /home > chaines> directory on a file server and I have several login servers that > chaines> mount this /home directory via NFS. Now this /home directory has > chaines> a ton of files and directorys (about 2000 user accounts). I > chaines> noticed that when I perform a copy of a large file ( I tested with > chaines> a 50 MB file) on a login server from something like /tmp to the > chaines> NFS mounted /home, the load average on the file server jumps up to > chaines> over 7, and seems to take forever (around 3-4 minutes). If I copy > chaines> a large file (once again I tested with 50 MB) from the NFS mounted > chaines> /home to like /tmp on the login server, there is no noticable load > chaines> average increase and it occurs in approximately 10-15 seconds. So > chaines> it seems that writes to the NFS mounted /home are taking longer > chaines> than they should and are spiking the load average. Both the file > chaines> server and the login servers are dual P3's with 2 gigs of ram. > chaines> Has anyone ever seen anything like this, or knows of any solutions > chaines> to this problem? > > Kernel version (client and server)? Version of nfs-utils? What does top > show as taking up CPU when you do the copy and your load average spikes? > > -Jeff > -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity WPI Class of 2005 ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity WPI Class of 2005 ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 -------------------------------------------

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Re: [Wlug] printers
by Son Nguyen Sept. 6, 2004

Sept. 6, 2004

Charles and all, LPRng is not bad at all. For those who still have it available for use and have been working with it for a while, it works great. For beginners, I forsee the use of CUPS ia an easier learning curves. In my situation, I have to upgrade all of my linux boxes every two years. Sinces cups is built in to the distributions that I am using it is best for me to adapt to the change (as long as it does not disrupt functionality and the way my users works). Last I have checked, LPRng is not be updated recently ( I could be wrong). Its just seems to be a bit painful to build LPRng into new distributions that already have working printing solution. >From what I have read so far...some of us are having issues here and there with cups. I guess...luck fo rme...I have not. Sonny >From: Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com> >Reply-To: Chuck Haines <chaines(a)gmail.com>, Worcester Linux Users Group<wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: Re: [Wlug] printers >Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:25:48 -0400 > >LPRng is not that bad for a print server. In the ECE dept at WPI, we >use LPRng beause CUPS IMHO is still rather buggy. We've tried >switching over to CUPS on many occasions however have always ran into >a bug that prevents us from performing the switch over. We've also >used CUPS on our other servers to connet to the printer server running >LPRng and have run into some troubles with that, which we have not >using LPRng. > >Chuck > >On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 13:21:45 +0000, Son Nguyen <snguyen(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Don, > > > > I would recommend not using LPRng. It is too old. I understand that CUPS > > seems difficult, but once you understand it, it is the next best thing. In > > my office, I have setup my kickstart to install 300+ printers on all of my > > Redhat Linux V3 Workstation machines (100+). You can configure it via > > console, applet, or even web. Fedora and Redhat has gone that route and I > > believe that others have too. It is much better than LPRng can every be. > > > > Sonny > > > > &gt;From: &quot;Don Peterson&quot; &lt;dpeterson(a)sterilite.com&gt; > > &gt;Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group &lt;wlug(a)mail.wlug.org&gt; > > &gt;To: &quot;Worcester Linux Users Group&quot; &lt;wlug(a)mail.wlug.org&gt; > > &gt;Subject: RE: [Wlug] printers > > &gt;Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 08:13:56 -0400 > > &gt; > > &gt;Thanx for the reply John. > > &gt;I had looked into CUPS but it looked pretty involved (the install and > > &gt;setup). > > &gt;Maybe I will give LPRng a shot. > > &gt; > > &gt;-----Original Message----- > > &gt;From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > > &gt;Behalf Of John Stoffel > > &gt;Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:51 PM > > &gt;To: Worcester Linux Users Group > > &gt;Subject: Re: [Wlug] printers > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt;Don&gt; I've got a quick question about printers. Is there a > > printers.conf > > &gt; > > &gt;Don&gt; file in Red Hat like there is in Solaris (I couldn't find one). > > &gt;Don&gt; Here's my issue: > > &gt; > > &gt;Don&gt; I have 5 servers in a 9i RAC array and I don't want to set up my > > 50 > > &gt; > > &gt;Don&gt; printers on each server. Can anyone suggest a way to > > &quot;copy&quot; > > &gt;Don&gt; the printers I set up on one server to the other 4? > > &gt; > > &gt;Sure, just setup one box as your master, using LPRng. Then you install > > &gt;LPRng on all the client systems with an /etc/printcap sorta like this: > > &gt; > > &gt; # LPRng: /etc/printcap file > > &gt; # > > &gt; # Forward all jobs to the print server > > &gt; # > > &gt; *:force_localhost@:client:rm=printmaster.foo.com > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt;Then when you add/delete printers on the server, they appear on the > > &gt;client without any intervention. > > &gt; > > &gt;Now, I can't say I love LPRng, mostly because the Docs are baroque and > > &gt;hard to follow, and the output of various commands is also archane. > > &gt; > > &gt;You might want to look at using CUPS instead, since it's based on and > > &gt;support the Internet Printing Protocol. I use CUPS at home and it's > > &gt;fine. > > &gt; > > &gt;_______________________________________________ > > &gt;Wlug mailing list > > &gt;Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > &gt;http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > &gt; > > &gt;_______________________________________________ > > &gt;Wlug mailing list > > &gt;Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > &gt;http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >-- >Chuck Haines >chaines(a)gmail.com >------------------------------------------- >Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity >WPI Class of 2005 >------------------------------------------- >AIM: CyberGrex >YIM: CyberGrex_27 >ICQ: 3707881 >------------------------------------------- >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] printers
by Son Nguyen Sept. 6, 2004

Sept. 6, 2004

Keith, >From: Keith Wright <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com> >Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] printers >Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 17:26:53 -0400 > > > From: "Son Nguyen" <snguyen(a)hotmail.com> > > > > I would recommend not using LPRng. It is too old. > >As an old codger in training, I take that personally. >You remind me of Perlis's comment on Algol60: > Not perfect, but a big improvement over its successors. > This commend is not meant to insult. Just that almost every distributions are using cups. I have had request from my users that I should retro fit lrpng into my network. Although it is not impossible, it is less versitile than cups. I have not had much problems with both the applets and web based configuration. >I don't even know what LPRng is, I suppose it's the New-Gnu version >of the ancient bin/lpr program, from back in the days when programs >were more prized for working than for having a Web interface. I totally agree. I would rather use the console command instead, but it is nice to have an alternative configuration method for those who are not confortable at the command line. > >My printer is attached to a dual boot machine that now runs >Linux only, with a Samba server so that Diane can print >via the network from her laptop. It worked pretty much >the first time, the main problem being getting the Windows >laptop to notice it. > >I can print from the printer/Linux machine, but when I tried >to use the much-touted CUPS web-based set-up to connect to the >printer from another Linux machine, it went totaly wonky. >Certain buttons sent the browser in an apparent infinite loop. >(By Turing, you can never be sure, but I waited long with no action) >Sometimes it would take me to some crazy random place in the >Internet, to pictures of buildings that had the same name >as my server machine, as though some mad programmer had >rewritten bin/hostname to search Google for its name. > Have you considered connecting the printer to the windows box, share it and then map it via the linux? How about a a dsl router with the network printer capability? I love the external jetdirect parrellel to ethernet device. >It was not high priority, since ftp works and I have to walk >to the printer machine anyway to get the paper, so I quit. > > > I understand that CUPS seems difficult, but once you understand it, > > it is the next best thing. > >At first I thought you were recommending it as second-best, but >maybe "next best" means Best Real Soon Now. > > > In my office, I have setup my kickstart > > to install 300+ printers on all of my Redhat Linux V3 Workstation > > machines (100+). > >Eh? You need 300 printers for 100 workstations? > My offices are in Bedford (MA), McLean (VA), NJ, and Tampa (FL). I have to allow users to printer to any printers on my network for virtual meeting purposes. Sonny > > You can configure it via console, applet, or even web. > >Not me, maybe you can. > > > Fedora and Redhat has gone that route and I believe that > > others have too. It is much better than LPRng can every be. > >Oh, I suppose, but much better can you make something that >does what I used to with "cat scratch.ps >/dev/lp0"? > > -- Keith >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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vendor recommendation
by Baris Hasdemir Sept. 5, 2004

Sept. 5, 2004

hi list, Would you guys give me recommendations for a company around Massachusetts selling Linux pre-installed desktop computers at a good price/performance ratio? I would also appreciate Linux pre-installed laptop/notebook sellers are welcome, as well though I think that it is harder to find. Thank you baris

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memtest hangs
by Gregory Avedissian Sept. 5, 2004

Sept. 5, 2004

I'm testing some DDR ram (one pc2100 and one pc2700) in a dell 4500s (1.8GHz Intel) and memtest hangs on the second test - Address Test, Own Address, No Cache. I've tested the sticks together and separately, and the same thing happens. The test just stops after a minute or two, with no error messages and loss of keyboard control. Tested one stick in a different computer, and it tests fine. It's a brand new memory chip. The Dell seems to run slower than I'd expect for a 1.8GHz with 384MB RAM. I especially noticed it when I was installing software from source packages - it went a lot slower than on my 1.2GHz Athlon with 500MB of pc133. Other than that, it seems to run ok. Here are my questions: Is it obviously the cpu? Is there any linux software that will test the cpu similar to what memtest does with memory? Any suggestions for diagnosing this problem? Thanks, Greg

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Where do we eat?
by Carlton C. Stedman II Sept. 4, 2004

Sept. 4, 2004

> I would have thought that 'Why do we eat?' would be a higher stage > than 'Where do lunch?', but perhaps it is just a matter of taste. > Which question seems more civilized may depend upon whether you > are a French philosopher facing a plate full of jellied liver, > or a film producer facing a starlet. No, no. First off, its a quote from Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. Second, the idea is that after one finds how to do something, the next step is to ask why they do it, all existential-like, and finally the people eventually get tired of that and grow fat and stupid. Hence: > > And the web interfaces are generally a sign of civilization moving > > from the 'How can we eat?' stage past the 'Why do we eat?' and > > straight to the 'Where shall we have lunch?' stage... Implies that web interfaces are for the weak. This is silly, web interfaces are very froody, and so easy to use, they make an excellent alternative to command-line file editing, in many cases. CCS -- Carlton C. Stedman II, sageman(a)wpi.edu "To iterate is human, to recurse, divine." -- L. Peter Deutch

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RE: [Wlug] printers
by Son Nguyen Sept. 4, 2004

Sept. 4, 2004

Don, I would recommend not using LPRng. It is too old. I understand that CUPS seems difficult, but once you understand it, it is the next best thing. In my office, I have setup my kickstart to install 300+ printers on all of my Redhat Linux V3 Workstation machines (100+). You can configure it via console, applet, or even web. Fedora and Redhat has gone that route and I believe that others have too. It is much better than LPRng can every be. Sonny >From: "Don Peterson" <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com> >Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] printers >Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 08:13:56 -0400 > >Thanx for the reply John. >I had looked into CUPS but it looked pretty involved (the install and >setup). >Maybe I will give LPRng a shot. > >-----Original Message----- >From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On >Behalf Of John Stoffel >Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:51 PM >To: Worcester Linux Users Group >Subject: Re: [Wlug] printers > > >Don> I've got a quick question about printers. Is there a printers.conf > >Don> file in Red Hat like there is in Solaris (I couldn't find one). >Don> Here's my issue: > >Don> I have 5 servers in a 9i RAC array and I don't want to set up my 50 > >Don> printers on each server. Can anyone suggest a way to "copy" >Don> the printers I set up on one server to the other 4? > >Sure, just setup one box as your master, using LPRng. Then you install >LPRng on all the client systems with an /etc/printcap sorta like this: > > # LPRng: /etc/printcap file > # > # Forward all jobs to the print server > # > *:force_localhost@:client:rm=printmaster.foo.com > > >Then when you add/delete printers on the server, they appear on the >client without any intervention. > >Now, I can't say I love LPRng, mostly because the Docs are baroque and >hard to follow, and the output of various commands is also archane. > >You might want to look at using CUPS instead, since it's based on and >support the Internet Printing Protocol. I use CUPS at home and it's >fine. > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] printers
by Don Peterson Sept. 2, 2004

Sept. 2, 2004

Thanx for the reply John. I had looked into CUPS but it looked pretty involved (the install and setup). Maybe I will give LPRng a shot. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of John Stoffel Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:51 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] printers Don> I've got a quick question about printers. Is there a printers.conf Don> file in Red Hat like there is in Solaris (I couldn't find one). Don> Here's my issue: Don> I have 5 servers in a 9i RAC array and I don't want to set up my 50 Don> printers on each server. Can anyone suggest a way to "copy" Don> the printers I set up on one server to the other 4? Sure, just setup one box as your master, using LPRng. Then you install LPRng on all the client systems with an /etc/printcap sorta like this: # LPRng: /etc/printcap file # # Forward all jobs to the print server # *:force_localhost@:client:rm=printmaster.foo.com Then when you add/delete printers on the server, they appear on the client without any intervention. Now, I can't say I love LPRng, mostly because the Docs are baroque and hard to follow, and the output of various commands is also archane. You might want to look at using CUPS instead, since it's based on and support the Internet Printing Protocol. I use CUPS at home and it's fine. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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printers
by Don Peterson Sept. 1, 2004

Sept. 1, 2004

Hello there, I am new here, and new to Linux. My company is in the middle of a platform migration for our Oracle ERP system. We are moving away from Solaris towards a Intel/Linux solution. I've got a quick question about printers. Is there a printers.conf file in Red Hat like there is in Solaris (I couldn't find one). Here's my issue: I have 5 servers in a 9i RAC array and I don't want to set up my 50 printers on each server. Can anyone suggest a way to "copy" the printers I set up on one server to the other 4? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Don Peterson MCP/DCSE Network/Telecommunications Administrator Sterilite Corporation 30 Scales Lane Townsend, Ma 01469

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Re: [Wlug] another vote for a future meeting topic
by Ryan Caron Sept. 1, 2004

Sept. 1, 2004

No, the install isn't the easiest thing to someone not familar with it, but the Gentoo documentation is quite good. The basic install (known as a stage 1 install) alone can take a fair amount of time since everything has to be compiled. However, you can save time by using what's called a stage 2 install where some of the basic install is precompiled. A stage 3 install is where the entire basic install is already compiled. We would not be able to complete a stage 1 or stage 2 install during a typical WLUG meeting and it is the kind of thing to let run overnight. If you are a laptop user you can download all the neccessary source files in advance and leave the meeting with the laptop still compiling. Otherwise, a constant, and preferably fast, network connection is required. On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I have heard way to much about Gentoo to not try it > out, but have also heard the install is not so easy. > > Someone has mentioned it before, but how about an > install fest so others can get hands on with different > distro installs? > > just one man's opinion....

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Installing Gentoo
by Carlton C. Stedman II Aug. 31, 2004

Aug. 31, 2004

>I have heard way to much about Gentoo to not try it out, but have also heard the install is not so easy. Well, the install is not easy relative to, say, SuSE or Redhat. Its not all automatic and requires you to actually do some work on the command line (setting up the mirrors for portage, optionally configuring the make.conf file to optimize compilation, partioning via good 'ol fdisk, mkfs-ing filesystems, chroot'ing and such) but a printable Quick Install Guide (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml) really takes out the difficulty. I, at least, had no problem setting it up, a couple of times. The only real issue with Gentoo is that if you do go for the compile-everything-mode it takes a good full day to get up and running, and compiling in X and KDE or GNOME is best left for a second day of work (or just let it run overnight). You *can* use prebuilt binary packages, but then why bother using Gentoo? Additionally, all the preinstall stuff can be done with the Gentoo Live CD or something like Knoppix (which I would have used, but needed 2.6 kernel support, and at the time couldn't get Knoppix to boot a 2.6 kernel, whereas the Gentoo Live CD did have it). > Someone has mentioned it before, but how about an install fest so others can get hands on with different distro installs? An installfest would be a great idea. Could hand out live CD's to linux-hopefuls and install in people's computers. I'd be up for trying to get some people running Gentoo and other distros. -- Carlton C. Stedman II, sageman(a)wpi.edu "To iterate is human, to recurse, divine." -- L. Peter Deutch

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In Search for Unix / Linux Career
by John Kim Ndungu Aug. 31, 2004

Aug. 31, 2004

Folks, I need some help here. I am a Linux / Unix newbie and I am wondering how I can painlessly (although I realize that i must put in a lot of hard work) get a carrer in the Unix / Linux world. I am a CCNA, MCSE, CCSA, N+ and A+ and I am comfortable in the networking field. I am comfortable with the Cisco IOS, Checkpoint as well as the microsoft shit. But after realizing that Microsoft is not my very friendly area, I am leaning towards going into the Linux / Unix world. Where should I start? I dont want to spend time going to school and I am confortable with self study. What certifications would you recommend and what books do I need? Thanks, John

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Re: [WLUG] Another vote for a future meeting topic
by Phil H Aug. 31, 2004

Aug. 31, 2004

Well, you probably couldn't do a Stage 1 install. Seems like you'd have to do like a Stage 3 and use --pkgonly for things like KDE/Gnome/Xorg. That's probably obvious, but thought I'd point it out. And by using --pkgonly, you lose any speed benefits that you could have gained by compiling . . . so it's kind of a catch-22. I guess it depends on the CPU and RAM of the machine, but a Stage 1 install (w/ XF86/KDE) took 4-5 days on my machine. Philip Solo mis dos centavos . . . > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 10:02:37 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: [Wlug] another vote for a future meeting topic > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <20040830170237.87484.qmail(a)web51310.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I have heard way to much about Gentoo to not try it > out, but have also heard the install is not so easy. > > Someone has mentioned it before, but how about an > install fest so others can get hands on with different > distro installs? > > just one man's opinion.... > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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[Fwd: Cron <root@smoke> root test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons && /usr/sbin/run-crons]
by Karl Hiramoto Aug. 31, 2004

Aug. 31, 2004

I'm getting an error message e-mailed to me by cron.. Any idea how to fix this? /var/cron.log looks OK. 30-Aug-04 15:00 USER root pid 24063 cmd root rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly 30-Aug-04 15:00 USER root pid 24064 cmd root test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons && /usr/sbin/run-crons -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Cron root test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons && /usr/sbin/run-crons Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:40:00 -0400 (EDT) From: root(a)smoke.zoop.org (Cron Daemon) To: root(a)smoke.zoop.org /bin/bash: line 1: root: command not found -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 http://karl.hiramoto.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: BUG... transmitter died. Kicking it.\n",...) linux-2.6.6/drivers/net/acenic.c

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[Fwd: Cron <root@smoke> root test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons && /usr/sbin/run-crons]
by Karl Hiramoto Aug. 31, 2004

Aug. 31, 2004

same error message, with full headers. Only extra info is the X-Cron-Env variables. and i'm running vixie-cron. -------- Original Message -------- Return-Path: <root(a)smoke.zoop.org> X-Original-To: root Delivered-To: karl(a)smoke.zoop.org Received: by smoke.zoop.org (Postfix) id 361DA10241E2; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:40:01 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: root(a)smoke.zoop.org Received: by smoke.zoop.org (Postfix, from userid 0) id 131E3102401A; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:40:00 -0400 (EDT) From: root(a)smoke.zoop.org (Cron Daemon) To: root(a)smoke.zoop.org Subject: Cron <root@smoke> root test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons && /usr/sbin/run-crons X-Cron-Env: <SHELL=/bin/bash> X-Cron-Env: <PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin> X-Cron-Env: <MAILTO=root> X-Cron-Env: <HOME=/> X-Cron-Env: <LOGNAME=root> Message-Id: <20040831004000.131E3102401A(a)smoke.zoop.org> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:40:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on smoke.zoop.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 /bin/bash: line 1: root: command not found -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 http://karl.hiramoto.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: BUG... transmitter died. Kicking it.\n",...) linux-2.6.6/drivers/net/acenic.c

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another vote for a future meeting topic
by Mike Leo Aug. 30, 2004

Aug. 30, 2004

I have heard way to much about Gentoo to not try it out, but have also heard the install is not so easy. Someone has mentioned it before, but how about an install fest so others can get hands on with different distro installs? just one man's opinion.... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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File Descriptors
by Gary Hanley Aug. 30, 2004

Aug. 30, 2004

Hello All, Can anyone point me to a good primer on the top of UNIX file descriptors? We had an issue with them recently at work on a SunOS 5.8 host and we upped the limit from 1024 to 4096 via the /etc/system file. There was some debate as to whether or not it was a good idea. My Google searches implied it *might* not be a good idea in some circumstances but I found no obvious conclusions. I know what they are - I just want to understand the pros and cons of changing the default limit...and why there are limits in the first place. Thank you for any help! -- Gary

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computer for sale
by Karl Hiramoto Aug. 29, 2004

Aug. 29, 2004

I could bring this to the next meeting if anyone is interested. Asking $150 or best offer. Dual boot machine with windows 2000 and Gentoo 2004.2 Dual Processor Pentium Pro 200mhz 17" Viewsonic Monitor with builtin mic and speakers DVD/CDROM dvd mpeg dxr2 decoder PCI card. 256M RAM (EDO 72pin) 20G hard disk (gentoo linux) 6G disk (fat 32) 6G disk (NTFS Windows 2000) 10/100 network card RTL-8139 Promise UDMA 33 PCI card ATI all in wonder (3D rage pro) TV tuner works in windows. Visioneer Paperport Flat bed Scanner with Parallel port cable interface ISA Creative labs AWE 32 gold sound card with RCA outputs. 2 USB ports floppy keyboard mouse -- -- Karl Hiramoto karl at hiramoto dot org http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Mobile: 508.517.4819 Work: 978-425-2090

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Re: Meeting Topic
by Carlton C. Stedman II Aug. 27, 2004

Aug. 27, 2004

Well, I'm just a *lowly student*, but a linux and FOSS enthusiast. I've used (in the following order) Debian, SuSE 7.1, Redhat 8/9, Slackware 9, Gentoo. Gentoo's pretty much stuck and I really like it. As far as 'deploying linux', I'm afraid my extent of that is moving my family members over to linux (work in progress) and friends here at WPI. CCS -- Carlton C. Stedman II, sageman(a)wpi.edu "To iterate is human, to recurse, divine." -- L. Peter Deutch

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Meeting topic
by Mike Leo Aug. 27, 2004

Aug. 27, 2004

Thanks to all for letting me attend my first LUG! Dave Walsh from Redhat was a great speaker. I was just thinking about a topic for a future meeting. It was nice to meet all of you, but didn't get to discuss what distro/windows manager you all use, who you work for and how your company is productionalizing linux. We have linux deployed now and I am curious to know how ya'll have done it as noone else I know is using it.....yet! So my suggestion is a 5 minute intro for those who want to talk about who you are and how your company is using and support linux. just a thought. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush

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USB webcam
by sonnyvn＠linus.mitre.org Aug. 25, 2004

Aug. 25, 2004

I would like to have a working USB webcam for my linux box (Fedora core 1), but I do not know which application support USB devices. Does anyone know? Has anyone tried? Sonny

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