word perfect
by donald vitkus
can not install word perfect 8.0 on united linux
any ideas
6 days, 4 hours
JOB - Implementation Engineer (Boston, MA)
by Tal Cohen
Hi Folks,
The company that I work for has just opened a position that some of you may
be interested in. The description is listed below.
For the right person, this can be a dream job.
Feel free to email me with any questions about the position or the company.
Here is the position:
The Implementation Engineer is a technical product expert who installs,
configures and supports SiteSpect's software and appliance products. This is
a technical position that requires knowledge of Unix systems management, Web
applications, and networking/DNS.
Although a technical position, the Implementation Engineer wears many
customer-facing hats. Candidates should be able to demonstrate a history of
working with both technical (IT) and non-technical (business and marketing)
stakeholders to define requirements, plan projects, and ultimately deliver
technical solutions. Excellent writing and verbal communication skills are a
necessity.
Required technical skills include:
* Web server configuration, tuning & administration
* Linux/Unix administration
* shell scripting such as bash, Perl, python or PHP
* knowledge of DNS, networking and load balancing
Roles also include scheduled on-call duty and occasional travel to assist
customers with installation and system maintenance.
Candidates should have experience working in a team environment alongside
other engineers and product managers. You should be comfortable with the
dynamic and fast pace that is typical for an Internet software startup.
This is a full time position located in our office in downtown Boston, MA.
We are minutes away from Park Street MBTA stop, central to all subway and
commuter rail lines.
If this sounds like you, then SiteSpect might be your next home. As the
company that leads its market space in power and innovation, we guarantee
excitement, challenge and an unlimited opportunity to contribute.
Tal
12 years, 4 months
Unix admin opening
by Frank Sweetser
We now return you to your regularly scheduled boringly relevant job postings.
WPI is looking for a unix administrator. Standard complement of skills
required, mostly RHEL systems, some HPC clustering administration, and a fair
bit of Windows interop stuff.
http://www.wpi.edu/cgi-bin/HR/New/showjob.cgi?job_type=AE&job_id=441
Feel free to send a resume either to HR directly, or to me and I'll pass it
along through the inside channel.
--
Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that
WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken
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12 years, 4 months
Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
by albutler33＠netscape.net
Re: Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
problem
Andy,
b) Any recruiter who abuses the list by failing to ask permission prior
to posting, or by an excessive volume of emails, will be asked to stop
(including removal from the membership list if necessary).
How would you define excessive?
Al Butler
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3. Re: Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters (Andy Stewart)
4. Re: Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters (Chuck Anderson)
5. Re: JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA (Mark Richards)
6. Re: Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters (Andy Stewart)
7. Re: Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters (Mike Leo)
8. Re: Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters (Andy Stewart)
9. Re: JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA (Keith Wright)
Attached Message
From:
Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com>
To:
'Jamie Guinan' <guinan(a)bluebutton.com>; 'Worcester Linux Users Group' <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
Subject:
Re: [Wlug] JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA
Date:
Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:12:46 -0400
So, here is a question: What are the guidelines for posting a relevant job
opening to this group? My reason for asking is because the company that I
work for is about to open a few reqs, and I want to get the bounty :)
Seriously (although I do want the bounty), the positions will be appropriate
for the group.
Thanks,
Tal
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Behalf Of Jamie Guinan
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 4:59 PM
To: Worcester Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Wlug] JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA
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Attached Message
From:
Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net>
To:
Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
Subject:
[Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
Date:
Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:00:53 -0400
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HI gang,
Tal Cohen wrote:
> So, here is a question: What are the guidelines for
> posting a relevant job
> opening to this group?
This is a very good question!
In general, I personally frown upon random recruiters posting job
openings on the WLUG mailing list, especially when they don't have the
courtesy of asking permission. Having the list as writable only by list
members helps to keep this type of email traffic minimized.
However, there have been a couple of recruiters in the past who asked
permission prior to posting, which I did grant (John Spencer is one such
individual). I specifically asked John to preface his subject with
"JOB" or "JOBS" so people could filter accordingly, and he has done what
was asked. Also, John's posts have been very Linux relevant IMHO. In
the interest of fair disclosure, I've worked with John in the past and
my employer has hired people represented by him.
I have also had recruiters send the job posting to me, asking me to
forward it to the list. If relevant, I forward the post, but sometimes
I have deleted them if I thought they were not relevant.
Having said all of that, I recognize that this mailing list belongs to
all of us and not just to me. At any time, we as a group can choose to
change our policy. Admittedly, even if every recruiter who posted asked
permission and used the "JOB" subject, the volume of email could become
more than we'd like. To date, this has not happened.
I have not yet heard anybody complain about a group member posting a
relevant job opening for their employer.
In today's particular case, I suspect that if the recruiter were
informed of our policy, he would be happy to comply. Although it is our
email list, how we react on the list is a reflection of the group as a
whole.
In summary, I propose the following for your consideration:
a) Recruiters who wish to post to the WLUG mailing list need to request
permission to do so, and if granted, preface the subject with "JOB" so
people can filter accordingly. As acting president, I presume that the
permission would be granted by me.
b) Any recruiter who abuses the list by failing to ask permission prior
to posting, or by an excessive volume of emails, will be asked to stop
(including removal from the membership list if necessary).
c) Group members may post relevant job openings as long as they preface
the subject with "JOB".
I invite constructive discussion on the proposal, and counter proposals
if appropriate.
Thanks,
Andy
- --
Andy Stewart, Founder
Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org)
Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393)
Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ
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Attached Message
From:
Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net>
To:
Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
Subject:
Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
Date:
Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:23:39 -0400
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Andy Stewart wrote:
> In summary, I propose the following for your consideration:
>
> a) Recruiters who wish to post to the WLUG mailing list need to request
> permission to do so, and if granted, preface the subject with "JOB" so
> people can filter accordingly. As acting president, I presume that the
> permission would be granted by me.
I just thought of something. When a person who is not a list member
attempts to post a message to the group, the email is sent to the list
moderator for approval. This is currently Frank Sweetser (and I think
Chuck Anderson, also).
In the event that a recruiter attempts to post without first becoming a
group member, I have full trust in the list moderator's judgment to
implement our group policy.
Later,
Andy
- --
Andy Stewart, Founder
Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org)
Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393)
Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ
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Attached Message
From:
Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU>
To:
wlug(a)mail.wlug.org
Subject:
Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
Date:
Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:25:44 -0400
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:23:39PM -0400, Andy Stewart wrote:
> In the event that a recruiter attempts to post without first becoming a
> group member, I have full trust in the list moderator's judgment to
> implement our group policy.
The problem in this case was that the user subscribed to the list, and
then immediately sent the JOB posting. So he was already a "group
member".
Attached Message
From:
Mark Richards <mark.richards(a)massmicro.com>
To:
Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
Subject:
Re: [Wlug] JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA
Date:
Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:13:04 -0400
Tal Cohen wrote:?
> So, here is a question: What are the guidelines for posting a relevant job?
> opening to this group?
My guess is that policy need not be set if participants would exercise
basic courtesy: ask first.?
?
You did that. Good show.?
?
/m?
?
?
Attached Message
From:
Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net>
To:
wlug(a)mail.wlug.org
Subject:
Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
Date:
Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:42:22 -0400
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Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:23:39PM -0400, Andy Stewart wrote:
>> In the event that a recruiter attempts to post without first becoming a
>> group member, I have full trust in the list moderator's judgment to
>> implement our group policy.
>
> The problem in this case was that the user subscribed to the list, and
> then immediately sent the JOB posting. So he was already a "group
> member".
Yes, and I have a couple of thoughts on that.
1) I believe this is the first time a recruiter has done this, but I
could be wrong.
2) We as a group have every right to determine what is acceptable email
on the list. In my opinion, if any group member abuses the list, they
should be first asked to stop and then have their privileges revoked if
they continue to abuse the list.
The post did mention Linux, it did have "JOB" in the subject, however,
the recruiter did not ask permission to use our list. Is that
sufficient cause for immediate revocation from the list? Perhaps so,
perhaps not - you tell me. I don't recall anybody asking this
particular recruiter to stop doing what he did. We should revoke with
care. If done harshly, it could damage the group reputation.
3) I opened the topic for discussion because I want to be sure that
folks who are normally less vocal on the group mailing list have a
chance to air their opinions.
4) The end result of these discussions should be posted on the website
as a group policy so guests to our mailing list will understand what we
expect of them.
Thanks,
Andy
- --
Andy Stewart, Founder
Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org)
Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393)
Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ
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Attached Message
From:
Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com>
To:
Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
Subject:
Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
Date:
Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:43:58 -0700 (PDT)
Does a job posting really warrant this much discussion?
I know I haven't participated much lately, but the emails discussing the spam job posting have been more spam-like than the original possible spam posting.
spamspamspamspamspamspamspameggsspam.
Anyway, I also posted a job posting earlier today.? Hope I did not break the rules.
Mike
----- Original Message ----
From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU>
To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:25:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:23:39PM -0400, Andy Stewart
wrote:
> In the event that a recruiter attempts to post without first becoming a
> group member, I have full trust in the list moderator's judgment to
> implement our group policy.
The problem in this case was that the user subscribed to the list, and
then immediately sent the JOB posting.??So he was already a "group
member".
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Attached Message
From:
Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net>
To:
Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
Subject:
Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
Date:
Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:51:44 -0400
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Mike Leo wrote:
> Does a job posting really warrant this much discussion?
Hi Mike,
Normally, no, but this subject has come up before, and I'd like to
settle it.
>
> I know I haven't participated much lately, but the emails discussing the
> spam job posting have been more spam-like than the original possible
> spam posting.
>
> spamspamspamspamspamspamspameggsspam.
>
> Anyway, I also posted a job posting earlier today. Hope I did not break
> the rules.
I had no problem with your post.
Later,
Andy
- --
Andy Stewart, Founder
Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org)
Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393)
Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ
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Attached Message
From:
Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us>
To:
wlug(a)mail.wlug.org
Subject:
Re: [Wlug] JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA
Date:
Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:12:08 -0400
> From: "Tal Cohen" <wlug(a)cohen123.com>
>
> What are the guidelines for posting
> a relevant job opening to this group?
Don't be a lamer.
I am tempted to leave it there. True Lamers
will never know who they are, but here are
some guides to How To Be A Lamer.
1. Never come to a meeting.
2. Subscribe to the list for the sole
purpose of posting your advertisement.
3. Fail the Turing Test by using cliches
to indicate that your message was
auto-generated by a computer or marketing
manager.
4. Do not write any introductory remarks
that might show your message is intended
for the WLUG list, rather than every list
in known space.
There are, of course, many other possible
lame actions.
Note that I have no actual power over any
list messages other than my own, and so my
opinions are worthless except in so far as
others agree with them.
-- Keith
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Recommendation for Project Management freeware?
by Stephen Daukas
Morning all!
Before I download a few bazillian freeware apps to look at, I was wondering
if anyone has experience with and a recommendation for a freeware
alternative to MS Project?
I would like both Gantt and PERT with critical path and milestones... This
is primarily for keeping track of the flow and status of a bunch of projects
(where are we, what comes next, what is holding up the works, etc.), and for
tasks within a project. Drill down from a multiple project view (PERT) to a
single project, to tasks with a project (Gantt) would be very cool,
especially given senior management is visually oriented. ;-)
Alternatives to "project management" apps based on the above are welcome
(I'm not sure where the process automation/workflow tools business is these
days, but if you have something you like, let me know...). Being able to
generate web-based content would be brilliant! Then I could say "go to this
URL and click away!"
Thanks in advance!
Steve
12 years, 4 months
Ubuntu switch user & screen lock
by Bill Mills-Curran
I'm running Ubuntu Feisty Fawn.
I've recently used the "switch user" option to log in without logging
my son out. However, after logging out of my account, the screen is
locked for my son, and his login password will not unlock the screen.
Anyone else seen this?
TiA,
Bill
12 years, 4 months
Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
by Jamie Guinan
My $0.02...
I think the mailing list should be like the meetings - if someone at a
meeting says "hey, $COMPANY has this opening doing Linux
sysadmin/programming/etc.", great. But if some random recruiter
walks into the room without any introductions and starts blabbing
about jobs and how great his company is, I imagine they'd be told
where to go.
In any case (and to kick a dead horse from a few months ago), I think
all job postings should be open to satire. If you're a recruiter and
you post something that looks like an obvious death march[1], be
prepared to have the euphemistic recruiter-speak appropriatly analyzed
and made fun of. >:)
-Jamie
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_march_(software_development)
12 years, 4 months
Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
by Andy Stewart
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Hash: SHA1
HI gang,
Tal Cohen wrote:
> So, here is a question: What are the guidelines for
> posting a relevant job
> opening to this group?
This is a very good question!
In general, I personally frown upon random recruiters posting job
openings on the WLUG mailing list, especially when they don't have the
courtesy of asking permission. Having the list as writable only by list
members helps to keep this type of email traffic minimized.
However, there have been a couple of recruiters in the past who asked
permission prior to posting, which I did grant (John Spencer is one such
individual). I specifically asked John to preface his subject with
"JOB" or "JOBS" so people could filter accordingly, and he has done what
was asked. Also, John's posts have been very Linux relevant IMHO. In
the interest of fair disclosure, I've worked with John in the past and
my employer has hired people represented by him.
I have also had recruiters send the job posting to me, asking me to
forward it to the list. If relevant, I forward the post, but sometimes
I have deleted them if I thought they were not relevant.
Having said all of that, I recognize that this mailing list belongs to
all of us and not just to me. At any time, we as a group can choose to
change our policy. Admittedly, even if every recruiter who posted asked
permission and used the "JOB" subject, the volume of email could become
more than we'd like. To date, this has not happened.
I have not yet heard anybody complain about a group member posting a
relevant job opening for their employer.
In today's particular case, I suspect that if the recruiter were
informed of our policy, he would be happy to comply. Although it is our
email list, how we react on the list is a reflection of the group as a
whole.
In summary, I propose the following for your consideration:
a) Recruiters who wish to post to the WLUG mailing list need to request
permission to do so, and if granted, preface the subject with "JOB" so
people can filter accordingly. As acting president, I presume that the
permission would be granted by me.
b) Any recruiter who abuses the list by failing to ask permission prior
to posting, or by an excessive volume of emails, will be asked to stop
(including removal from the membership list if necessary).
c) Group members may post relevant job openings as long as they preface
the subject with "JOB".
I invite constructive discussion on the proposal, and counter proposals
if appropriate.
Thanks,
Andy
- --
Andy Stewart, Founder
Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org)
Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393)
Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ
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12 years, 4 months
Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
by Frank Sweetser
My thoughts on the whole incident revolve around the fact that more than anything else, WLUG - including the mailing list - is a community explicitly defined as a place where linux enthusiasts can get together. The whole topic of job postings is already a little bit of a grey area, but so far they'd all been either posted directly by people in WLUG, or sent to Andy and relayed to the list. This has worked at least well enough that nobody complained.
In this case, however, things went differently. The user quite obviously went through the trouble of signing up for the mailing list with the sole purpose of being able to send an email that was part job posting and part recruiter advertisement. This, in my mind (and quite a few others, based on the responses) crossed over the line.
There are plenty of well established sites online for employers and employees to look for each other, and I doubt that anyone in this group would have any trouble finding them. So far it hasn't been an issue, but I would hate to see the signal in the mailing list get diluted with the noise of recruiters. If this comes up much more, I 'd vote for either relegating job postings to a dedicated page on the web site, or just banning them alltogether, depending on how the rest of the group feels.
Your humble list moderator,
Frank
12 years, 4 months
