High-speed access questions
by Gregory Avedissian
It seems like most of the providers say that you need windows or mac to
use their DSL or cable internet. Does this just mean they won't offer
tech support for linux, or does it mean that it won't work? I'm planning
on using a router and having two computers connected.
Has anyone had luck with linux and Verizon DSL? They're down to
$35/month, and they give you the modem. Anyone know of better deals?
Thanks.
Greg
14 years, 8 months
RE: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem
by Martin, Eric
He has a router in between, shouldn't have anything to do with your ISP.
Can you ping your router? Also, is it possible that your routers ip isn't
192.168.1.x? Maybe you did a firmware upgrade?
-----Original Message-----
From: aramico(a)duahati.com [mailto:aramico@duahati.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:47 PM
To: Worcester Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem
Still get this problem ?
Try to call your ISP and ask him to reset the settting.
It ussualy happens if you change the operating system between Windows and
Unix/Linux. But, it ussually works fine too if you change the computer and
or the operating system to Windows too, but not for other :(( After
resetting, it should be fine.
Regards,
Aramico
> Joel Young wrote:
>
>> I just replaced Windows XP with RedHat 9 on one of my machines at
>> home. My problem is that I can't connect to the network. If I
>> specify DHCP and then try to connect I don't get any responses from
>> my DHCP server and 'eth0' won't activate. If I specify a static IP
>> address (i.e.
>> 192.168.1.2) then 'eth0' will activate but I still can't get out on the
>> network, event to ping.
>>
>> My network configuration consists of a Netgear 10/100 Wireless Router
>> connected to a Cable Modem, with a Linksys Router/Switch to the
>> Netgear Router to expand my ports. I've been running fine from all
>> my XP Desktops through this configuration using DHCP.
>>
>> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Joel,
>
> Include your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and your
> /etc/sysconfig/network files in an email so we can see what they look
> like.
>
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Good HowTo
by Martin, Eric
Anybdoy know of a good howto for setting up a home mail server? Gentoo has
a Virtual mailserver how to, but that's not what I'm looking for. I own two
domains, and I want to have email from those domains delivered to my server.
I have Postfix in mind, I've heard it's pretty easy but I'm obviously not
set on it. I'd also like to include spamassassin, and antivirus (clamav
probaly...)
Thanks
Eric
14 years, 10 months
messages awaiting moderator approval - Suspicious Head
by Joel Young
I keep getting my messages being held up for moderator approval due to a
suspicious header. Anyone know why this might be? I'd like to get this
solved, and I'm sure the moderator doesn't want to keep approving my
messages.
Joel
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RE: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...
by Keller, Tim
I'd also like to recommend www.bookpool.com as well, for a couple of
reasons!
Firstly, it's a great bookstore. I purchased an o'reilly book and the book
+ shipping was less than the price on the back of the book!
Secondly, my friend and a fellow WLUGger (Marc Hughes) works for bookpool!
Later,
Tim.
There's nothing wrong with a man that a Playstation 2 and a copy of Vice
City can't cure. -- Penny Arcade
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Kinz [mailto:jkinz@kinz.org]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:25 AM
To: Worcester Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 12:10:44AM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote:
> On Monday 08 March 2004 11:59 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 11:42:44PM -0500, Michael Kingsbury wrote:
> > > to Softpro once.... cover price gets old.
> >
> > Don't WLUG members get 10% off? I seem to remember going there and
> > having to decide over the WBUR, WGBH, and iirc, WLUG discounts.
>
> Yes, there is a discount on many items for WLUG members. I'm not sure of
the
> percentage, but I think its 10%.
>
> >
> > There's just something about walking into a store and seeing every ORA
> > book right there. ;)
http://www.bookpool.com - all the ORA books, always 25% to 45% off -All
the time.
Sofpro was nice to have around for emergencies but if you can wait 3-4
days for a book, I always go to bookpool. Cheaper and wider selection.
(darned hard to read a few pages before buying tho'... :) )
They are located in vineyard haven. IIRC
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RE: [Wlug] Re: Good HowTo
by Martin, Eric
I def know what you mean with the Inet not being friendly anymore...I'm
trying to explain to clients and co-workers alike that you can get an virus
just by browsing a website...when Is M$ gonna patch that horrible browswer
of theirs anyway?!!?!? So firewall is step 1. that I'm prob gonna test in
house first, then expose it (complete with jail ;) )
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob George [mailto:mailings02@ttlexceeded.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:52 PM
To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org
Subject: [Wlug] Re: Good HowTo
Martin, Eric wrote:
> A large part of it is the learning, that's one of the things that got
> me into comptuers in the first place. I know it sounds crazy, but I
> want to deal with the headaches of a mailserver, and possibly 2 DNS
> servers if I can run them. Basically it comes down to wanting the
> expirience of bringing up a mail server and dealing with real
> problems...
That's a great approach, but do appreciate that in making some early
mistakes, you can easily wind up with your system used to relay spam
en-masse, or worse. I would recommend a slow and thorough approach,
along with a fail-back option if something doesn't work as expected. Get
the firewall working and tested as step 1. Have someone knowledgeable
help with testing as you go.
Unfortunately, the 'net has become a dangerous place for learning these
days, and mistakes are quickly exploited.
Or you could simply never make mistakes. :)
- Bob
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RE: [Wlug] Re: Good HowTo
by Martin, Eric
Cool, thanks!
-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Huber [mailto:huber@alum.wpi.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:00 PM
To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org
Subject: Re: [Wlug] Re: Good HowTo
"Martin, Eric" <MartinE(a)worc.k12.ma.us> writes:
> A large part of it is the learning, that's one of the things that got
> me into comptuers in the first place. I know it sounds crazy, but I
> want to deal with the headaches of a mailserver, and possibly 2 DNS
> servers if I can run them. Basically it comes down to wanting the
> expirience of bringing up a mail server and dealing with real
> problems...
Well, depending on your ISP 'situation', something like this might be
nice:
http://www.dyndns.org/services/pricing/index.html#mailhop
I use dyndns' backup MX service, in case my connection goes down. They spool
for up to 10 days, I believe.
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RE: [Wlug] Re: Good HowTo
by Martin, Eric
A large part of it is the learning, that's one of the things that got me
into comptuers in the first place. I know it sounds crazy, but I want to
deal with the headaches of a mailserver, and possibly 2 DNS servers if I can
run them. Basically it comes down to wanting the expirience of bringing up
a mail server and dealing with real problems...
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob George [mailto:mailings02@ttlexceeded.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:14 PM
To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org
Subject: [Wlug] Re: Good HowTo
Martin, Eric wrote:
> [...] I own two domains, and I want to have email from those domains
> delivered to my server.
The first question is: will your provider allow incoming smtp to your
address? If so, you can set up MX pointers to your server... unless it's
dynamic. In which case, you could set up with one of the dynamic dns
providers, and update it with a short TTL. In which case, everything shulud
work, although some systems will reject (RBL) mail originating
from your address simply because it IS dynamic.
Back in Phoenix, I was set up (with Cox as my provider) with a server at the
house directly accepting mail from outside. It was great fun, but due to the
worm/virus outbreaks, and various threats from the community at large, they
began blocking inbound smtp, and eventually outbound as well. While this was
certainly aggravating at the time, and I was annoyed they didn't bother to
NOTIFY me of this change, in hindsight
it's probalby just as well.
I wound up going with a $2/mo. offsite hosting outfit, and have to say my
aggravation levels are greatly reduced (not to mention I can down my server
and not worry about losing stuff... a real advantage while moving last
summer.) It's also nice now that I'm experiencing the not-quite-so-steady
power in my new home area.
Mail for my domains goes to the hosted server (my MX), and I pull it down at
regular (5 min.) intervals using fetchmail via POP3. I run postfix locally,
but relay through my provider's (charter) smtp server for outbound to avoid
sudden surprises if ToS changes. I've got accounts on the hosted server for
my users (family), plus a "wildcard" that I can use to break things out
locally via aliases.
It's not as sexy as having incoming mail handled directly, but mail for my
domains "is delivered to my server" for local reading via POP/IMAP,
and I do have control over the local outbound (smtp). I don't have
spammers knocking at my server constantly, and I have to admit I don't
miss the headaches of an exposed server (though the learning was fun).
I'm not sure if that's what you had in mind, but it does work well.
> I have Postfix in mind, I've heard it's pretty easy but I'm obviously
> not set on it.
I used postfix throughout, and found it quite easy to set up and administer.
Handling multiple domains locally was no big deal, jsut a matter of setting
the "mydestination" option. Again, specifics may vary depending on what your
provider allows/requires.
> I'd also like to include spamassassin, and antivirus (clamav
> probaly...)
I do run spamassassin via local delivery, but obviously the stuff's made it
onto my server by then. I don't run any MTA-level blocking, due to the setup
described above. It does keep the crud out of my family's inboxen though
(and quite deftly, I might add.) I also chain bogofilter and spamprobe,
experimenting with variations on bayes. I'm on the spamassassin list, and
there ways to get MTA-level integration, if you desire.
I'm running several anti-virus (3 - bitdefender, f-prot and
clamav) in line via procmail on delivery. Each detects some the others miss
(depending on the hour.) Again, this could be integrated at a higher level.
You might check out amavis or mailscanner.
I've got anomy sanitizer as a 3rd level of defense, stripping off active
content and defanging (web bugs and the like), for selected accounts.
I set this up all as discrete steps, and had no real headaches. The
documentation for each package (postfix, fetchmail, procmail,
spamassassin, clamav) was sufficient.
I run my own linux firewall, but I can understand why some folks prefer
to by an appliance. I host my mail server off-site, but have done the
"studly mail admin" bit as well. Just a question of trade-offs for a
home/hobby system, and how much time you want to spend on it.
- Bob
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RE: [Wlug] High-speed access questions
by Martin, Eric
That's another good point about Charter...most of the tech support people
are everyday people with a manual in front of them that has a table with 2
cols: Customer reports problem :: Solution. I had more dynamic solutions
when I was 10 than these guys have. Also, how hard is it to setup a linux
router? I've been meaning to make a DMZ, just have to get familiar with
iptables...
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Frysinger [mailto:vapier@gentoo.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:59 PM
To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org
Subject: Re: [Wlug] High-speed access questions
On Wednesday 31 March 2004 12:35 pm, Gregory Avedissian wrote:
> Has anyone had luck with linux and Verizon DSL? They're down to
> $35/month, and they give you the modem. Anyone know of better deals?
verizon is the cheapest ive seen in our area ... i use it out in holden and
the service has been perfect the last few years ... if you can get
speakeasy,
i'd shell the few extra dollars out for them (too bad they dont have service
in holden for me though :() ... speakeasy knows linux and offers technical
support for no extra $$$
i started using them when they first started offering DSL and they sucked
horribly ... but they have gotten their act together and i havent had
troubles since
personally i use a gentoo linux router that connects with PPPoE and hosts
dns
(with dnsmasq)/dhcp/NAT for about 6 linux machines and 5 windows machines
...
never had troubles that were my fault :)
do *not* try to contact technical support from verizon, the vast majority
are
stupid and just read off of the screen in front of them ... i only ever
talked to one guy that knew what 'linux' was and that was after hours of
being on the phone (this was back when their hardware would go dark for days
on end)
if need/want help i wouldnt mind stopping over to lend a hand ... assuming
you
live in the worcester area :)
-mike
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RE: [Wlug] High-speed access questions
by Martin, Eric
It just means that they won't support it. Charter will add $30/mo I
believe....Verizon Does PPoE, get get ready to recompile your kernel if you
aren't using a router (which you are, so it doesn't matter). Once you have
a router plugged in, your internet connection becomes just a regular lan,
and TCP/IP takes over, not Verizon or Charter...
-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@rcn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:36 PM
To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org
Subject: [Wlug] High-speed access questions
It seems like most of the providers say that you need windows or mac to
use their DSL or cable internet. Does this just mean they won't offer
tech support for linux, or does it mean that it won't work? I'm planning
on using a router and having two computers connected.
Has anyone had luck with linux and Verizon DSL? They're down to
$35/month, and they give you the modem. Anyone know of better deals?
Thanks.
Greg
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