Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?
by Mike Peckar
> It is interesting that they are bringing some type of *IX support back...
Peter Pouliot, who is the MS guy working on getting Hyper-V support back
into OpenStack, spoke at last year's PuppetConf in Boston, and said that
*nix stacks will likely come back into MS products so MS can play with the
likes of OpenStack and similar opensource tools making their way into
devOps, EntOps, cloud apps and big data. In essence, he indicated they're
panicking and they should be.
Mike
2 years, 4 months
good article Q+A with Linus Torvalds
by Doug Mildram
doug> The joys of project management! About which I know very little.
I only noticed this because the IEEE......... (which i joined for a short
year,
then they keep sending me weekly/monthly stuff for free on email,
plus they keep begging me to re-join) sent me links to.....
http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/linux-at-25-qa-with-linus-tor...
doug> My favorite take-home (one comment/reply to the line below said:
"everyone knows that!" )
Linux is a kernel, not an entire operating system.
but in the article, Linus got quoted saying...
If I had known what I know today when I started, I would never have had the
chutzpah to start writing my own operating system: You need a certain
amount of naïveté to think that you can do it.
2 years, 4 months
Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?
by Chuck Anderson
Windows NT/XP/7/8 had the POSIX subsystem and then the Interix
subsystem:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interix
But they deprecated it in Windows 8 and don't support it at all on
Windows 10. It is interesting that they are bringing some type of *IX
support back...
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 05:42:54PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote:
> As one of my co-workers pointed out... the MS file model is fundamentally
> incompatible with the linux model. Try renaming a file in windows that
> someone else has open... try deleting a file someone has open.
>
> There are lots and lots of linux programs that do that last trick... create
> a temp file, open it and then delete it... use it for scratch space and
> then when they close it... *poof* it's gone.
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Dennis Payne <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically
> > interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin. I
> > imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it support
> > SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I might install
> > it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install.
> >
> > On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote:
> >
> >
> > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-users...
> >
> > They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows
> > syscalls...
> >
> > Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin.
> >
> > Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now that
> > it'll be running sshd.
> >
> > Tim.
2 years, 4 months
Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?
by Tim Keller
As one of my co-workers pointed out... the MS file model is fundamentally
incompatible with the linux model. Try renaming a file in windows that
someone else has open... try deleting a file someone has open.
There are lots and lots of linux programs that do that last trick... create
a temp file, open it and then delete it... use it for scratch space and
then when they close it... *poof* it's gone.
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Dennis Payne <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com>
wrote:
> Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically
> interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin. I
> imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it support
> SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I might install
> it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install.
>
> On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote:
>
>
> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-users...
>
> They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows
> syscalls...
>
> Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin.
>
> Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now that
> it'll be running sshd.
>
> Tim.
>
>
>
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2 years, 4 months
Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?
by Dennis Payne
Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically
interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin.
I imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it
support SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I
might install it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install.
On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote:
> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-u
> serspace-for-windows-developers/
>
> They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows
> syscalls...
>
> Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin.
>
> Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now
> that it'll be running sshd.
>
> Tim.
>
>
>
> --
> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their
> constituents as "consumers".
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2 years, 4 months
Re: [Wlug] Block-level remote file sync?
by Keith Wright
Chris <wolcen(a)riseup.net> writes:
> Thanks in advance! Hope you are all well.
> --Chris
>
> PS - LibrePlanet was pretty fun :)
Fine, thank you.
-- Keith
PS: I was there, at least on Saturday.
Were you hiding, or do I not know what
Chris looks like?
Hint: the law of excluded middle is
irrelevant, as is relevance logic.
Answer: Give up? B the latter, and/or
both/either A, the former, and/or B.
PPS: I suppose I could Google what
LOPSA stands for, but I don't care.
2 years, 4 months
Next Meeting April 14th!
by Tim Keller
Hey Gang,
The next meeting is going to be April 14th. I've put a couple of feelers
out for speakers but nothing has solidified yet.
If there's something people would like to talk about, I'd be game!
Here are couple of topics that people might find interesting:
Home security using Zone Alarm
Hadoop
FOSS Databases
Let me know what you think.
Thanks,
Tim.
--
I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their
constituents as "consumers".
2 years, 4 months
LOPSA-East '16 Early Bird Registration extended
by LOPSA-East '16
The “*please fasten you seatbelt sign*” is on and LOPSA-NJ is happy to
announce that registration for the 2016 LOPSA-East conference is *OPEN*.
Early Bird pricing is a great deal and will be available till March 25th.
We have some great classes and talks this year and we hope you all can join
us. There are many discounts that you can find out about at
http://lopsaeast.org/2016/lopsa-east-costs/#dis
Our Friday night Keynote will be Tanya Reilly who has been a Site
Reliability Engineer at Google since 2005, working on low level
infrastructure like distributed locking, load balancing, bootstrapping and
monitoring systems. Before Google, she worked as a Systems Administrator at
eircom.net, Ireland’s largest ISP, and before that she was the entire IT
Department for a small software house. She likes writing Go, building Lego
spaceships, and predicting how things will break.”
“Does technical debt turn your small changes into minefields? Does your
production environment expect perfect humans? This talk highlights tools,
configuration and documentation that set us up for failure. It advocates
for removing traps, so that you don’t have to waste brain cycles on
remembering where they are. And it offers practical advice for sending your
future self (and future coworkers!) gifts, instead of post mortems that
just say “human error :-(”. Includes stories of preventable outages.
Bring your schadenfreude.”
We will be announcing some new great things going on later as the
conference gets closer. One of the things that was brought up in the feed
back from the past few years is a get together on Thursday night for those
in the area or arriving early so we will be opening up the bag stuffing
party to all. More details on this will be added to the website as the time
gets closer. Friday night we will have the Birds-Of-a-Feathers again this
year as well as a Cards Against Humanity game for anyone who wants to join
and a few more fun things that make LOPSA-East different from other area
conferences.
We can’t wait to see you all in May at the LOPSA-East Conference. Remember
to reserve your room at the Hyatt Regency New Brunswick at the group rate
of $129 single/double plus tax. When the rooms in the LOPSA-East block are
sold out, requests will be handled on a space-available basis at the
hotel’s standard rate. Make your reservations early! To reserve your room
on the web go to https://aws.passkey.com/g/51094713
If you have any questions or ideas you would like to ask or discuses please
email me at wbilancio(a)lopsanj.org.
<wbilancio(a)bilancio.org>
2 years, 4 months
Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues
by Gary Hanley
Yes, that's what I was doing but after I chose this the Mint installer
wasn't seeing any partitions. Removed GPT record with gdisk and that
fixed it.
On 03/25/2016 11:49 AM, John Stoffel wrote:
> You're talking about the MINT installer, right? In any case, I think
> you need to make sure that you boot into Win10, shrink the C:\ drive
> and leave free space on the disk.
>
> The in the mint installer you need to select the custom disk
> partitioning scheme, since you need to find and select the space by
> hand.
>
2 years, 4 months
