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Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 2/13 7PM More Raspberry Pi
by Chuck Anderson 13 Feb '13

13 Feb '13

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held at its regularly scheduled time: the 2nd Wednesday of the month, which is tomorrow, Wednesday, February 13, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331, which should hopefully become our regular location. If people would like, I can bring my new Raspberry Pi to play with. I might even have a case for it by then. I have installed a distro called OpenELEC which is an XBMC port, but we can play with other distros as well, especially if people bring some spare SD cards they don't mind erasing. Wednesday, February 13, 7:00 - 10:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 More Raspberry Pi Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and maybe raspberry pie. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

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Virtualization/Linux/Storage openings at MathWorks.
by Adam Keck 07 Feb '13

07 Feb '13

Hi All, We have a Linux/Virtualization position and a Storage/Virtualization position open. I believe both are project-focused. Please email me off-list, if you are interested. Thanks! -Adam

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Announce: WLUG Meeting TODAY Wed 1/9 7PM
by Chuck Anderson 05 Feb '13

05 Feb '13

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting will be held Today, Wednesday, January 9, at 7PM. The location will be WPI Campus Center, Chairman's Room 129. Wednesday, January 9, 7:00 - 10:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Chairman's Room 129 Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

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Are we having a meeting on the 10th?
by Tim Keller 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

Since it's now Tuesday and there's been no official announcement... Are we having a meeting on the 10th? If so, has a room been reserved? Is there a topic? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Fwd: [Dc401-l] Javascript Hackathon at Betaspring - Providence Feb. 2nd 2013
by Adam Gomes 07 Jan '13

07 Jan '13

Thought that some of you might be interested in doing this. --Adam ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Johnson <ag3nt5(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:30 PM Subject: [Dc401-l] Javascript Hackathon at Betaspring - Providence Feb. 2nd 2013 To: "dc401-l(a)lists.dc401.org" <dc401-l(a)lists.dc401.org> DowncityJS is a 24-hour JavaScript Hackathon taking place in Providence, RI on February 2nd. The rules are simple: show up with your laptop, design or development skills, and assemble a team of likeminded hackers (or participate by yourself if you are brave enough) ready to build the best web application of JavaScript library in 24 hours. Food and beverages will be provided by the Founders League and space and connectivity will be provided by Betaspring. 95 Chestnut Street, 3rd Floor, Providence, RI 02903 Check out http://downcityjs.com/ for more info. __________________________________________ http://lists.dc401.org/listinfo.cgi/dc401-l-dc401.org

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next WLUG meeting?
by The Hammer 07 Jan '13

07 Jan '13

Hi, Does anyone have the next meeting date/time/location? regards, Ron

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Overriding NIS accounts
by Bill Mills-Curran 20 Dec '12

20 Dec '12

I have an issue at my work with the configuration of one of our several flavors of linux servers. The goal is to override the NIS-specified login directory definition by using this syntax in /etc/passwd: +userx:::::/home/userx: +@grpx:::::: +:::::: /etc/nsswitch.conf has (in part): passwd: compat shadow: files nis group: files nis The distribution is Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5.2 (Tikanga). If this was working I would get the following: > echo ~userx /home/userx Instead, I'm getting the login dir specified in NIS. I've successfully configured a Red Hat 6.3 server to work properly, but this one is driving me batty. Any suggestions? TIA, Bill

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Possible intrusion?
by Bill Mills-Curran 17 Dec '12

17 Dec '12

I was looking at the output of "last" recently and found several entries like this on my home server: userxx pts/0 c-24-91-141-172. Sun Dec 2 14:57 - 15:09 (00:11) (userxx represents my username) I did a reverse lookup on 172.141.92.24: host 172.141.92.24 24.92.141.172.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer AC8D5C18.ipt.aol.com. Looks like something from AOL. I got a little freaked, so I changed my password and also blocked that IP in /etc/hosts.deny. I'm not an aol user, but my wife is... but the "last" output shows this as connecting with my username. Any ideas? Thanks, Bill

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Re: [Wlug] Using Facebook as a Website
by Steven Greenberg 14 Dec '12

14 Dec '12

I don't think it is a question of Facebook or a website. Maybe the title of my email gave that impression. We can use both. Use Facebook for what it is good for (if that is anything), and use the web site for what it is good for. Creating events and managing RSVP might be something to leave to Facebook. Although, if we used one of the CMS software systems, it could probably do that job. For instance, I use my personal Facebook site only to have links to my blog articles on my web site. I agree, that I want to own the data on my blog. All my photo albums are on my own website. On the Facebook create group page there is an option to set privacy to: Privacy: Open Anyone can see the group, who's in it, and what members post. Actually, I suppose that may already be the setting. The description does not imply that you do not need to at least login to Facebook to see the group. /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

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Using Facebook as a Website
by Steven Greenberg 13 Dec '12

13 Dec '12

In the meeting, I also mentioned using Facebook. This is just about the easiest thing to set up. Here is an example Facebook Page that I have created. You do not need to sign in to Facebook to read it. https://www.facebook.com/SturbridgeForElizabethWarren /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

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Re: [Wlug] Using Facebook as a Website
by Steven Greenberg 13 Dec '12

13 Dec '12

https://www.facebook.com/SturbridgeForElizabethWarren does not require a login to Facebook. Facebook presents you with a login page, but you can just dismiss the login page to read the original. This is not true of https://www.facebook.com/groups/worcester.linux.users.group/ If the owner of https://www.facebook.com/groups/worcester.linux.users.group/ could open up access to this page so that you do not need to log in to read it, then this would be a great step forward. This facebook page ought to be mentioned on the web site. http://www.wlug.org/. That way, knowledge of the facebook page would not fade into memory in the archive of these emails. /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

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Setting up a Wiki
by Steven Greenberg 13 Dec '12

13 Dec '12

Some mention was made of setting up a Wiki web site. I have set up and contributed to Wikis in several companies where I worked. Those are internal web sites, so I cannot show examples. The software I used was Twiki. http://twiki.org/ /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

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Re: [Wlug] Need some help with digital signal processing ...
by dglaser＠glaserresearch.net 13 Dec '12

13 Dec '12

Jeff, I will look at reddit forums. However, I am hoping for someone local for beer and pizza based information interchange. Face to face bandwidth is really fast. -David =================== From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> Date: Wed Dec 12 08:33:35 CST 2012 To: David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net>, Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Need some help with digital signal processing ... David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> writes: > Hi Folks, > > I need some help with an Android app for the hearing impaired. > Essentially, the app is to be used with a wearable android device > (Google Glasses or theSony android wrist watch) and will listen for > sounds such as the door bell or the tty, or any other household > soundthat should be reported to the wearer. > > Capturing the sound using an Android device is not the problem. What I > don't know is how to compare the incoming sound stream with sound > signatures that should cause the event to occur. Once the event > occurs, then text can be displayed on the googleglasses or the haptic > transducer on the wrist watch can be activated. > > This app is intended to be open sourceso I'm looking for volunteer > help on the algorithms. I will do the programming. We've got some smart folks on this list, no doubt, but it might serve you better to ask this question in a more focused forum. Try http://www.reddit.com/r/DSP/ for starters. Good luck! Jeff

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Examples of Websites Using Different Techniques
by Steven Greenberg 13 Dec '12

13 Dec '12

I have examples of three different techniques that I have used for creating web sites. My personal web site is mostly hand coded HTML and CSS, with some custom Javascript and PHP. The drop down menus are pure HTML and CSS. http://www.ssgreenberg.name/ The politics link on my website takes you to my politics blog that uses Wordpress. http://ssgreenberg.name/PoliticsBlog/ I have my experimental website using Drupal 6. http://www.ssgreenberg.name/Drupal/Drupal/ the last example is the Friends of The Joshua Hyde Public Library on which I have used Drupal 7 http://www.sturbridgelibraryfriends.org/ I did a much more complex web site in Drupal 6 for a Square dance club, but that site is no longer available. I'll be happy to discuss the pros and cons of each technique. /Steve P.S. I have some Javascript which I use often for doing Outlines on web sites in HTML. http://www.ssgreenberg.name/SSGSoftware/OutlinesInHTML/ I also have some Javascript which I use to display all my photo albums on the web. One example is: http://www.ssgreenberg.name/Pictures/2011/10-28-Snow/index.php The software at the bottom of these pages that keep track of and displays the info about how many reads and readers there are for each page was also written by me and uses a MySQL database to keep the data that drives the display of information. -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5
by joel d 13 Dec '12

13 Dec '12

Came late. Did I miss it? Tech pizza? Other location? Thank you, Joel On Dec 12, 2012 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Need some help with digital signal processing ... (David Glaser) > 2. Announce: Meeting December 12th 7PM, WPI Campus Center > Mid-Century Room 331 (Chuck Anderson) > 3. Re: Need some help with digital signal processing ... (Jeff Moyer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:33:22 -0500 > From: David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Need some help with digital signal processing ... > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <50C86B82.5030301(a)glaserresearch.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Folks, > > I need some help with an Android app for the hearing impaired. > Essentially, the app is to be used with a wearable android device > (Google Glasses or theSony android wrist watch) and will listen for > sounds such as the door bell or the tty, or any other household > soundthat should be reported to the wearer. > > Capturing the sound using an Android device is not the problem. What I > don't know is how to compare the incoming sound stream with sound > signatures that should cause the event to occur. Once the event occurs, > then text can be displayed on the googleglasses or the haptic transducer > on the wrist watch can be activated. > > This app is intended to be open sourceso I'm looking for volunteer help > on the algorithms. I will do the programming. > > Regards > > David Glaser > dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20121212/8dede17f/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:47:11 -0500 > From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: [Wlug] Announce: Meeting December 12th 7PM, WPI Campus Center > Mid-Century Room 331 > To: wlug(a)wlug.org > Message-ID: <20121212124710.GZ29170(a)angus.ind.WPI.EDU> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > We are having a WLUG meeting this evening, December 12, at 7:00 PM in > the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Century Room 331. > > http://www.wpi.edu/Admin/CC/Floorplans/37678.htm > > This seems like a good time to talk about the WLUG website. We've had > half-completed plans since about 2 years ago to replace the hardware > and software to create a Wiki or Drupal site to replace the outdated > and manually-maintained-by-me HTML site. This week I plan to finally > migrate things over to the new server, but the content will still be > the old HTML site for now. We need some volunteers to help build a > new site in either MediaWiki or Drupal or some other framework. > > After the meeting, we'll continue discussions over at Tech Pizza. > > Hope to see you there, > Chuck > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 190 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20121212/d872da62/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:33:35 -0500 > From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Need some help with digital signal processing ... > To: David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net>, Worcester Linux Users > Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <x49zk1jl4qo.fsf(a)segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> writes: > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I need some help with an Android app for the hearing impaired. > > Essentially, the app is to be used with a wearable android device > > (Google Glasses or theSony android wrist watch) and will listen for > > sounds such as the door bell or the tty, or any other household > > soundthat should be reported to the wearer. > > > > Capturing the sound using an Android device is not the problem. What I > > don't know is how to compare the incoming sound stream with sound > > signatures that should cause the event to occur. Once the event > > occurs, then text can be displayed on the googleglasses or the haptic > > transducer on the wrist watch can be activated. > > > > This app is intended to be open sourceso I'm looking for volunteer > > help on the algorithms. I will do the programming. > > We've got some smart folks on this list, no doubt, but it might serve > you better to ask this question in a more focused forum. Try > http://www.reddit.com/r/DSP/ for starters. > > Good luck! > Jeff > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 > ************************************ >

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Need some help with digital signal processing ...
by David Glaser 12 Dec '12

12 Dec '12

Hi Folks, I need some help with an Android app for the hearing impaired. Essentially, the app is to be used with a wearable android device (Google Glasses or theSony android wrist watch) and will listen for sounds such as the door bell or the tty, or any other household soundthat should be reported to the wearer. Capturing the sound using an Android device is not the problem. What I don't know is how to compare the incoming sound stream with sound signatures that should cause the event to occur. Once the event occurs, then text can be displayed on the googleglasses or the haptic transducer on the wrist watch can be activated. This app is intended to be open sourceso I'm looking for volunteer help on the algorithms. I will do the programming. Regards David Glaser dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net

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Announce: Meeting December 12th 7PM, WPI Campus Center Mid-Century Room 331
by Chuck Anderson 12 Dec '12

12 Dec '12

We are having a WLUG meeting this evening, December 12, at 7:00 PM in the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Century Room 331. http://www.wpi.edu/Admin/CC/Floorplans/37678.htm This seems like a good time to talk about the WLUG website. We've had half-completed plans since about 2 years ago to replace the hardware and software to create a Wiki or Drupal site to replace the outdated and manually-maintained-by-me HTML site. This week I plan to finally migrate things over to the new server, but the content will still be the old HTML site for now. We need some volunteers to help build a new site in either MediaWiki or Drupal or some other framework. After the meeting, we'll continue discussions over at Tech Pizza. Hope to see you there, Chuck

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Meeting Wednesday pm?
by joel d 11 Dec '12

11 Dec '12

Hi WLUG... Is there a meeting on Wednesday.? Thank you, Joel

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Ebook Creation
by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com 05 Dec '12

05 Dec '12

Has anyone made an ebook under linux? Specifically I'm taking about epub and mobi formats for supporting ereaders. I stupidly decided to do NaNoWriMo (National Novel Writing Month - 50,000 words in 30 days) and succeeded. I still have to clean up the novel but assuming I finish that I'd like to convert it to ebook format.

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OPENINGS - Sr Software Engineer - Linux kernel, drivers
by John Spencer 03 Dec '12

03 Dec '12

Sr. Software Engineer (embedded Linux) Our client north of Boston has an opportunity for a Senior Software Engineer with at least 10 years of experience. The successful engineer needs to have an aptitude for real time systems and experience with capital equipment/devices. Strong background with embedded Linux kernel and driver development is required. The engineer will need a high comfort level developing low level Linux code as well as modifying existing low level Linux code. This is a contract to perm opportunity. Work must be done on-site. Client will not sponsor visas. Please send a Word version of your resume to jspencer@connectedsp. com As always your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com <www.connectedsp.com%20%20%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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LCD - to fix or not to fix?
by joel d 23 Nov '12

23 Nov '12

Hi WLUG, My conundrum is whether to work on soldering most likely capacitors into an old 18 inch LCD later this week in a haze of starch and tryptophan. Is it worth it to re-hab it for use as a basement/workshop PC? Happy Thanksgiving, Joel

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November 14th?
by The Hammer 18 Nov '12

18 Nov '12

Hello, I see of the website that our next meeting should be tomorrow (the 14th), but the location is to be announced. Wondering, do we have the location yet? Ron

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Announce: Meeting November 14th 7PM, WPI Higgins Labs 230
by Chuck Anderson 14 Nov '12

14 Nov '12

Sorry I'm going to be missing the meeting this month, and thanks to Henrique for taking care of the room. -Chuck On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 03:14:34PM -0500, Henrique wrote: > Hey! > > I just talked to Chuck, and he is a bit busy. I got WLUG the same room as > last time Higgins Labs, Room 230, > (HL230<https://maps.google.com/maps?q=42.274129,-71.808384&num=1&vpsrc=0&ie=UTF8&l…>), > if you have any problem locating or getting into the building, just send me > a message at (631) 316-8142. I also already got a better room for next > month. > > Do we have a topic? > > Cheers, > Henrique "nican" Polido.

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help diagnosing PC issue: suspect power supply
by Brett Russ 07 Nov '12

07 Nov '12

Hi, I'm trying to diagnose a home built PC running fine since 2007 but lately starting to act odd. Here are the system specs: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8GHz cpu Asus P5B Deluxe mobo Nvidia 7900GS graphics card Kingston KHX6400 2x1GB DDR2 memory Sparkle ATX 400W power supply 3x 1TB SATA HDDs 1x SATA DVD-RW $ uname -a Linux spider 3.0.0-25-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 13 17:58:59 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ cat /etc/*release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10 DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10" $ uname -a Linux spider 3.0.0-25-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 13 17:58:59 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux What recently changed: i) replaced monitor, last one died ii) (carefully) vacuumed the dust from inside. Kept hand on case chassis, didn't touch any PCB/chips, etc. Here are the symptoms: 1) first started seeing BIOS claims of bad CMOS checksum at boot time. Immediately suspected the CMOS battery, replaced it and reset CMOS settings but I continue to see this. This is the one symptom that I can't yet place, unless it's simply a bad replacement battery. 2) next started seeing the monitor fail to wake up after entering power save 3) powering on the PC shows issues: 3a) often the monitor won't wake at boot 3b) the bios often doesn't finish POST, gets stuck at splash screen 3c) bios settings often don't survive across power cycles (possibly related to #1--battery issue?) 3d) bios doesn't always give the affirmative beep (likely same symptom as 3a, 3b) 3e) a cold power on or reset can take several "tries" before the system stays on. I.e. fans will spin up, then spin down, one to three times before staying on. When this happens it's pretty much guaranteed that it won't boot successfully. 4) system will freeze to user input while up. I.e. once I get Linux booted, as long as I disable monitor power save it will stay running for a while, but I observed it stopped responding to KB and mouse input earlier this morning. Here's what I've tried: a) reseated both DIMMs, reproduced issues; tried with just one DIMM, repro'd; tried other DIMM, repro'd b) reseated graphics card, repro'd; removed graphics card (now headless), repro'd problem 3e c) reseated CMOS battery (CR2032), repro'd d) pulled all non-essential cables and internal connections, including power and SATA cables from all drives, repro'd e) updated BIOS to latest version, repro'd Unfortunately I don't have another ATX power supply to try, but was thinking of buying one. I might also try an old PCI video card, but I suspect due to repro (b) above that it's not the cause. Anyone have any other insights or agree it sounds like a bad PS? I still can't explain symptom (1), will probably buy another battery to be sure. Five years seems like an old PC, but I'm not a gamer so this suits me fine. Thanks, Brett

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Next meeting on the 14th?
by Tim Keller 01 Nov '12

01 Nov '12

Hey Gang, Firstly, I presume that the next meeting is going to be on the 14th? Secondly, do we have a topic? Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Free hardware: Internal IDE CD drives
by joel d 26 Oct '12

26 Oct '12

Could anyone use some internal CD drives? Just found a box full of them. They are "bare" IDE CD readers with no cables, drivers or manuals. Will gladly bring as many as people want to the next meeting. Don't be shy, I probably have 30 of them, and all are guaranteed to be worth every penny of free! Please kindly reply to me via e-mail directly if interested (to not clog up the WLUG e-mail). Thank you, Joel joelgroup(a)gmail.com

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Monitoring for a network
by Eric Martin 24 Oct '12

24 Oct '12

I'm trying to get a better handle on what's happening on my network at work. I'm currently using Nagios to monitor the big things (Server health, switch health, etc), but I'd like more granular statistics (how much data is coming and going, are any links saturated, etc). A quick glance shows that MRTG, Cricket, and RRD are good things to start playing with. I'm staring to play around with MRTG, but I'm hearing rumors of scalability issues and I don't want to get deep into MRTG if I should be putting resources elsewhere. A quick sketch of the network is a few internet connections, our router, and a few switches for networking along with a few switches for VoIP as well as our PBX. I don't want to monitor every port all the time, I instead want to monitor the uplinks of the switches to have a good idea, and look at the switch if something looks awry. My question to the group is, what do you use / recommend, and do you have anything that sticks out in your head about any of these packages (good or bad)? Thanks in advance, -- Eric Martin

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I presume we're meeting the 10th of Oct?
by Tim Keller 10 Oct '12

10 Oct '12

Hey Gang! I presume we're having a meeting on the 10th? Does anybody have a topic/idea? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Possible problem with demo tomorrow...
by Tim Keller 09 Oct '12

09 Oct '12

There's that old adage, when it rains it pours... Work critical stuff has made it hard for me to focus on getting the demo to work completely. I can do two things... 1. I can do my presentation without the demo. 2. I can do my presentation next month, giving me time to get the demo working right, etc. What do you guys want me to do? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] help diagnosing PC issue: suspect power supply
by joel d 09 Oct '12

09 Oct '12

> From: Brett Russ <bruss(a)alum.wpi.edu> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] help diagnosing PC issue: suspect power supply > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <CAGcHgFN4odSRHmS=jjYuvEDy1myRMOgKEYxy0bWu9e4-3V9i7A(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Brett Russ <bruss(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: >>> I agree that the power supply is suspect. You can measure the voltage >> >>> Alternatively, it may be easier to just try a replacement. >> >> I have a new one on the way. I'll reply here with the results. > > Well, brand new power supply and the system behaves the same > problematic way as before. > > So next try is the memory, as another list reply suggested. I've had > memtest86 running against both DIMMs for 47+ hours and counting, 70 > total passes so far, and 0 errors. Remember I'd already tried > removing first one DIMM, then the other, and the problem repro'd > either way. So by these measures it'd seem the memory is OK? I know > some mem problems take days to show up so I'll just leave this running > for a couple more days anyway. > > Not much more I can do here, as I've seen repros with most everything > else unplugged so I'm now thinking it must be the motherboard. > Perhaps I will try reseating the CPU--haven't done that yet. > > Recall the system is having trouble POST'ing: it hangs at various > points before BIOS POST completes, i.e. I don't get a confirming > 'beep' at end of POST and in some cases the monitor won't wake, other > cases the BIOS splash screen stays splashed, etc. The full original > email is here: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/2012-September/008059.html > > Anyway, if anyone has other ideas here I'd welcome them. > > Thanks again, > Brett > Hi Brett, You sound pretty convinced this is a PC hardware problem. I think I missed the earlier discussion, but how exactly do you know this is hardware at fault (vs anything not hardware at fault) and how certain are you? Have you tried running a "bootable operating system" via a CD or DVD drive as a diagnostic step (will it boot Ubuntu or another from the optical drive)? If CD/DVD boot is out, there are thumb drive bootable images also. I would start here and rule out everything that is not hardware. As a test, if a different O.S. than Ubuntu 11.10, runs well (except slower) from an optical drive, your hardware is likely fine (and instead have an Ubuntu 11 or app or driver problem). Step only takes a few minutes and is very telling (and well worth it IMHO). This step will likely tell you if it is hardware vs everything else. So if you can assure yourself it is hardware 100% ... All the PC hardware I have worked on in the past years is pretty much self diagnosing/reporting. In this case, your job if you choose to accept it, is to "read and decipher what the motherboard is telling you at boot up". To speak the language of your motherboard, you need to check for any of the following information: External to case, Rear facing LEDs (often have many and are multi-colored) On motherboard LEDs, viewable only inside Beep tones heard at boot up Error or other messages displayed quickly at bootup You need to read the "diagnostics" page of your model's specific PC or motherboard vendor's manual for this specific PC/motherboard to decipher what it is seeing at bootup (based upon lights/beeps/LEDS/etc). Sounds like: You either have two bad power supplies, or this is not the problem. You could have bad memory DIMM(s) that do pass MemTest86 (these test help, but I have seen them pass on bad chips it is a bit of a long shot though). You have changed the motherboard battery and flashed the latest BIOS. Don't rule out a new BIOS being a problem (glitch in install or wrong one or BIOS version problem) You still have a problem that could be hardware or not. You could have an Ubuntu 11 playing well with your motherboard, thus a test of another OS and version... If it was my PC I would next rule out the following in this order: Test and work on whatever the motherboard manufacturer is telling you via lights/beeps/LEDs/boot messages. Ubuntu V11.10, not because I don't like it but trying something else for 15 minutes could tell you something. The current version of CMOS you flashed to the motherboard

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Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/10 7PM: OpenStack
by Chuck Anderson 09 Oct '12

09 Oct '12

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting will be held on Wednesday, October 10, at 7PM. The location will be WPI Higgins Labs, room 230 (computer lab). Wednesday, October 10, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Higgins Labs, room 230 (computer lab) WLUG member Tim Keller will be giving a presentation on OpenStack, open source software for building private and public clouds. Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 107, Issue 13
by Karl Lind 01 Oct '12

01 Oct '12

Hi Brett, First off, CMOS checksum errors during boot refer to MEMORY not the BIOS. Also almost all your symptoms point to a possible memory issue. Do Chuck's stuff to verify that you don't have a power drain that's causing a memory issue. Get a Memory Test utility and find out which DIMM is causing the problem. Carefully remove the DIMM and using a #2 pencil eraser, clean the contacts and replace the DIMM (The rubber removes oxidation that prevents contact) and don't forget to keep grounded! (You, not the DIMM). Cheers Karl On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. help diagnosing PC issue: suspect power supply (Brett Russ) > 2. Re: help diagnosing PC issue: suspect power supply > (Chuck Anderson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:32:05 -0400 > From: Brett Russ <bruss(a)alum.wpi.edu> > Subject: [Wlug] help diagnosing PC issue: suspect power supply > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <CAGcHgFNRd2jLrywD977a0jZChqEREnNBt529abY0= > fh2OU5FAA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > > I'm trying to diagnose a home built PC running fine since 2007 but lately > starting to act odd. Here are the system specs: > Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8GHz cpu > Asus P5B Deluxe mobo > Nvidia 7900GS graphics card > Kingston KHX6400 2x1GB DDR2 memory > Sparkle ATX 400W power supply > 3x 1TB SATA HDDs > 1x SATA DVD-RW > > $ uname -a > Linux spider 3.0.0-25-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 13 17:58:59 UTC 2012 > x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > $ cat /etc/*release > DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu > DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10 > DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric > DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10" > > $ uname -a > Linux spider 3.0.0-25-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 13 17:58:59 UTC 2012 > x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > > What recently changed: > > i) replaced monitor, last one died > > ii) (carefully) vacuumed the dust from inside. Kept hand on case chassis, > didn't touch any PCB/chips, etc. > > > Here are the symptoms: > > 1) first started seeing BIOS claims of bad CMOS checksum at boot time. > Immediately suspected the CMOS battery, replaced it and reset CMOS settings > but I continue to see this. This is the one symptom that I can't yet > place, unless it's simply a bad replacement battery. > > 2) next started seeing the monitor fail to wake up after entering power > save > > 3) powering on the PC shows issues: > > 3a) often the monitor won't wake at boot > > 3b) the bios often doesn't finish POST, gets stuck at splash screen > > 3c) bios settings often don't survive across power cycles (possibly related > to #1--battery issue?) > > 3d) bios doesn't always give the affirmative beep (likely same symptom as > 3a, 3b) > > 3e) a cold power on or reset can take several "tries" before the system > stays on. I.e. fans will spin up, then spin down, one to three times > before staying on. When this happens it's pretty much guaranteed that it > won't boot successfully. > > 4) system will freeze to user input while up. I.e. once I get Linux > booted, as long as I disable monitor power save it will stay running for a > while, but I observed it stopped responding to KB and mouse input earlier > this morning. > > > Here's what I've tried: > > a) reseated both DIMMs, reproduced issues; tried with just one DIMM, > repro'd; tried other DIMM, repro'd > > b) reseated graphics card, repro'd; removed graphics card (now headless), > repro'd problem 3e > > c) reseated CMOS battery (CR2032), repro'd > > d) pulled all non-essential cables and internal connections, including > power and SATA cables from all drives, repro'd > > e) updated BIOS to latest version, repro'd > > > Unfortunately I don't have another ATX power supply to try, but was > thinking of buying one. I might also try an old PCI video card, but I > suspect due to repro (b) above that it's not the cause. > > Anyone have any other insights or agree it sounds like a bad PS? I still > can't explain symptom (1), will probably buy another battery to be sure. > Five years seems like an old PC, but I'm not a gamer so this suits me fine. > > > Thanks, > Brett > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20120929/8959d06a/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:19:47 -0400 > From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] help diagnosing PC issue: suspect power supply > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <20120929221947.GH12327(a)angus.ind.WPI.EDU> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 02:32:05PM -0400, Brett Russ wrote: > > Sparkle ATX 400W power supply > > Anyone have any other insights or agree it sounds like a bad PS? I still > > can't explain symptom (1), will probably buy another battery to be sure. > > Five years seems like an old PC, but I'm not a gamer so this suits me > fine. > > I agree that the power supply is suspect. You can measure the voltage > on a spare power supply hard drive connector, there should be 12v from > black to yellow, and 5v from black to red. If that checks out, you > should measure from the motherboard ATX connector as some of the other > voltages may be out of spec. You can find the standard ATX pinouts > and voltages online. Finally, you can test with the power supply > completely disconnected from the PC. Again, you can find instructions > online for how to do that, as it requires a jumper wire for the power > supply to power on. > > Alternatively, it may be easier to just try a replacement. > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 107, Issue 13 > ************************************* >

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Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab?
by E Johnson 28 Sep '12

28 Sep '12

Umm. Non-happy camper. ISP things have changed here, without me being informed. Recently (2 days ago) my modem started rebooting every little while. Zillions of T3 & T4 timouts in the modem log, Signal lavels were perfect when it was online. I own this thing, a Motorola SB6120 purchased late June 2010. It has not been abused. I am in Woosta & we all know the ISP available here. 2 techs showed up mid-morning, to diagnose and fix this issue. One guy stood there watching; the other guy "did stuff." They checked the signal levels on incoming line from the box connected to the pole our back, and declared my moden Dying. They talked to each other (not me) & seemed to think I was Granny-in-a-Box, until they let me say more than one sentence. These guys also confessed that since July 202, Ch4rter does not "allow" customers to own/run their own modems. Their consolation prize is that they don't charge modem rental fees any more. (it's not on the bill, anyway, FWIW). They mumbled some other mumbo jumbo and fled 5 seconds after they learned I have my own router too, & didn't care if the modem and router were yet in communication. They just said "better reboot" and they "no longer" service "wireless" --which I am not running except when certain visitors appear. I think they meant they don't diagnose routers, which has always been the policy, and which is fine. Internal LAN issues aren't their problem. So now I have a modem which may or may not be sick, but no way to test it to make sure. Is there anyone here who can take a look at this thing & test to see if it's Really Dying, or if Ch4rter deaded it with their latest firmware revision of their firmware & policy change in July 2012? An interesting meeting theme sometime might be how to get the Verizon FIOS in Worcester. Several years ago I watched Verizon trucks & Verizon moles installing their fiber optics in manholes all over town. Ch4rter is running on Verizon's infrastructure. Ch4rter internet has been working better since then, but we're still locked out of the option to use verizon. Is this a topic of interest to anyone? If so, I'll lead the discussion and even buy the Pizz4. To me, this is a Large Pizza problem. Another interesting but probably futile discussion might center around why we have suddenly been deprived of the ability to watch the behavior and effectiveness of our modems, which serve internet coming from our ISP.. I was not informed of this -- was anyone who is just a 'regular' customer? Meanwhile, if anyone has a test lab or whatever, where they can test my declared-dead modem, please let me know. Otherwise it's probably a giveaway, or another piece of Landfill Fodder. I can bring to a meeting & can wait for results. Thanks & happy pizzaz, Liz J

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Need recommendation on UPs for small home network.
by E Johnson 23 Sep '12

23 Sep '12

Today and the other day we discussed my issues with a modem declared-dead by twin techs from my ISP. Part of that problem may have been caused by bad elex service here. I need a recommendation for a UPS to use here. We have dirty elex here in this 112 year-old central Worcester house, & inadequate amperage to my floor (top floor garret). Refrig runs on same circuit as my computers do. Lights dim when something downstairs also turns on, probably a microwave oven and/or a TV. This won't be fixed any time soon unless the landlady suddenly becomes a benefactress of the Gate$ Foundation, which will never happen. I could sometime get an electrician in here to add a suitable circuit for my floor, but it would be faster & better just to get an UPS, whether or not the elex here is ever upgraded. UPS here would only need to run max 2 PCs plus their monitors, one modem and router & a light bulb or two. Really needs to run only one. The primary PC here is mine, which has a 450W power supply running a 95W AMD FX4100 quad (bulldozer) no vid card. Antec Sonata II case has 2 fans. Mobo is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157292 Built June 2012. Works great. The other PC is a few years older; similar, but usually don't care if it shuts down in power outage or not. I need UPS to beep audibly in a power outage, but only need maybe 5 minutes to light a candle, go to office, save whatever is not saved & Halt. Otherwise just need UPS to smooth out the fluctuating elex here. I'm not clear from newegg or any vendor, which kind of UPS I need to get for this small home setup. Please would someone recommend what UPS would be suitable here, but not overkill. Thanks extremely, Liz J

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Re: [Wlug] Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? -- + update from ISP
by E Johnson 22 Sep '12

22 Sep '12

Thanks, Karl. This makes sense. Why didn't I think of that! We have inadequate elex here which dips & dims lights frequently. Had sudden power outages a few times, including one very recently. I am not piping the modem logs anywhere; only check this if I notice an obvious problem. Results: Non available. Case (Motorola SB 6120) has only 2 screws, hex, 2 different sizes. No problem. Backplate then comes off & that's it. Nothing else to undo except whet seem to be clips, but we have no prybar tiny & thin enough to pry up these clip things. Case appears uncrackable, execpt maybe by dropping it from an airplane onto solid concrete. However. If it's only the power supply, I could test this by simply replacing the wall wart with an equivalent one from anywhere. Then I'd have to get the ISP to reprovision it, then watch to see if it worked any better after that. I do have an update from Ch4rter business office, which is relevant to my original beef with this ISP. Yesterday afternoon, I followed up by calling the business office, to ask why they changed their policy on what networking components their customers can or cannot own and administer themselves. The last person I spoke with said I am "grandfathered-in" to be allowed to own & run my own modem, since my account was opened before July, 2012 when the new poilcy was instituted (I'm a customer since there was something other than dial-up). Biz office says these techs who came to see me Thursday simply had "inadequate training" or "incorrect information" from their own supervisors. Both techs did look not older than about 3 days over 19. For the trouble call, I was promised a sup-tech & maybe one of these was, but only sup-ing the second guy how to open cardboard boxes of modems, smile at geekly grannies, & maybe how to drive the van. This modem is not in warranty & no longer manufactured (mine 2+ years old). But Motorola tech support confirmed that any old power supply 12V, 0.76A would run it. I'll borrow a power supply from somewhere, then try this thing one more time here before Responsibly Disposing of it by donating to a worthy friend's parts bin. Thanks very much, Liz J On 21 September 2012 21:52, Karl Lind <electrolind(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sounds more like the power supply is taking it's time to die. As the power > level dips thats where your errors/reboots are popping up. Easiest thing to > verify is 1.) Turn off the modem and unplug. 2.) Remove case and inspect > the board. 3.) If the board's solder connections look like there are not > good connections ANYWHERE on the board then you probably have a bad solder > issue, if the solder looks good, it's probably a power supply on the board > problem which is a chip. 4.) Post results > > Karl Lind > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > >> Send Wlug mailing list submissions to >> wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? (E Johnson) >> 2. Re: Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? (E Johnson) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:11:17 -0400 >> From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: [Wlug] Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? >> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >> Message-ID: >> < >> CABmZTj0aYBHVUR83fPcMBxxpu6-YhfoPDo5G9wB1pdBAAQWwHA(a)mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Umm. Non-happy camper. ISP things have changed here, without me being >> informed. Recently (2 days ago) my modem started rebooting every little >> while. Zillions of T3 & T4 timouts in the modem log, Signal lavels were >> perfect when it was online. I own this thing, a Motorola SB6120 purchased >> late June 2010. It has not been abused. >> >> I am in Woosta & we all know the ISP available here. 2 techs showed up >> mid-morning, to diagnose and fix this issue. One guy stood there watching; >> the other guy "did stuff." They checked the signal levels on incoming line >> from the box connected to the pole our back, and declared my moden Dying. >> They talked to each other (not me) & seemed to think I was >> Granny-in-a-Box, >> until they let me say more than one sentence. >> >> These guys also confessed that since July 202, Ch4rter does not "allow" >> customers to own/run their own modems. Their consolation prize is that >> they >> don't charge modem rental fees any more. (it's not on the bill, anyway, >> FWIW). They mumbled some other mumbo jumbo and fled 5 seconds after they >> learned I have my own router too, & didn't care if the modem and router >> were yet in communication. They just said "better reboot" and they "no >> longer" service "wireless" --which I am not running except when certain >> visitors appear. I think they meant they don't diagnose routers, which has >> always been the policy, and which is fine. Internal LAN issues aren't >> their >> problem. >> >> So now I have a modem which may or may not be sick, but no way to test it >> to make sure. Is there anyone here who can take a look at this thing & >> test >> to see if it's Really Dying, or if Ch4rter deaded it with their latest >> firmware revision of their firmware & policy change in July 2012? >> >> An interesting meeting theme sometime might be how to get the Verizon FIOS >> in Worcester. Several years ago I watched Verizon trucks & Verizon moles >> installing their fiber optics in manholes all over town. Ch4rter is >> running >> on Verizon's infrastructure. Ch4rter internet has been working better >> since >> then, but we're still locked out of the option to use verizon. Is this a >> topic of interest to anyone? If so, I'll lead the discussion and even buy >> the Pizz4. To me, this is a Large Pizza problem. >> >> Another interesting but probably futile discussion might center around why >> we have suddenly been deprived of the ability to watch the behavior and >> effectiveness of our modems, which serve internet coming from our ISP.. I >> was not informed of this -- was anyone who is just a 'regular' customer? >> >> Meanwhile, if anyone has a test lab or whatever, where they can test my >> declared-dead modem, please let me know. Otherwise it's probably a >> giveaway, or another piece of Landfill Fodder. I can bring to a meeting & >> can wait for results. >> >> Thanks & happy pizzaz, >> Liz J >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20120920/8789bb41/attachmen… >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:31:59 -0400 >> From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? >> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >> Message-ID: >> < >> CABmZTj3Ghp2GHUiWHtGtbBN5NVo0HQKzkrWcvxNngP5_q2hcGQ(a)mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> PS: This evening, Ch4rter Billing has deleted the upcoming service charge >> for this morning's tech call. Amazing how it took 2 guys to check line >> levels, then hang one moden where my other modem was, + plug in one coax & >> one wall wart , then make 30-sec call to the office to get their >> repacement >> modem provisioned & watch for blinking green lights. 2 guys. >> If this happens to you (they discontinued your router & required you to >> use >> theirs), don't eat the bill. >> it does work fine, FWIW, but not impressed. >> --EJ >> >> On 20 September 2012 19:11, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Umm. Non-happy camper. ISP things have changed here, without me being >> > informed. Recently (2 days ago) my modem started rebooting every little >> > while. Zillions of T3 & T4 timouts in the modem log, Signal lavels were >> > perfect when it was online. I own this thing, a Motorola SB6120 >> purchased >> > late June 2010. It has not been abused. >> > >> > I am in Woosta & we all know the ISP available here. 2 techs showed up >> > mid-morning, to diagnose and fix this issue. One guy stood there >> watching; >> > the other guy "did stuff." They checked the signal levels on incoming >> line >> > from the box connected to the pole our back, and declared my moden >> Dying. >> > They talked to each other (not me) & seemed to think I was >> Granny-in-a-Box, >> > until they let me say more than one sentence. >> > >> > These guys also confessed that since July 202, Ch4rter does not "allow" >> > customers to own/run their own modems. Their consolation prize is that >> they >> > don't charge modem rental fees any more. (it's not on the bill, anyway, >> > FWIW). They mumbled some other mumbo jumbo and fled 5 seconds after they >> > learned I have my own router too, & didn't care if the modem and router >> > were yet in communication. They just said "better reboot" and they "no >> > longer" service "wireless" --which I am not running except when certain >> > visitors appear. I think they meant they don't diagnose routers, which >> has >> > always been the policy, and which is fine. Internal LAN issues aren't >> their >> > problem. >> > >> > So now I have a modem which may or may not be sick, but no way to test >> it >> > to make sure. Is there anyone here who can take a look at this thing & >> test >> > to see if it's Really Dying, or if Ch4rter deaded it with their latest >> > firmware revision of their firmware & policy change in July 2012? >> > >> > An interesting meeting theme sometime might be how to get the Verizon >> FIOS >> > in Worcester. Several years ago I watched Verizon trucks & Verizon moles >> > installing their fiber optics in manholes all over town. Ch4rter is >> running >> > on Verizon's infrastructure. Ch4rter internet has been working better >> since >> > then, but we're still locked out of the option to use verizon. Is this a >> > topic of interest to anyone? If so, I'll lead the discussion and even >> buy >> > the Pizz4. To me, this is a Large Pizza problem. >> > >> > Another interesting but probably futile discussion might center around >> why >> > we have suddenly been deprived of the ability to watch the behavior and >> > effectiveness of our modems, which serve internet coming from our ISP.. >> I >> > was not informed of this -- was anyone who is just a 'regular' customer? >> > >> > Meanwhile, if anyone has a test lab or whatever, where they can test my >> > declared-dead modem, please let me know. Otherwise it's probably a >> > giveaway, or another piece of Landfill Fodder. I can bring to a meeting >> & >> > can wait for results. >> > >> > Thanks & happy pizzaz, >> > Liz J >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20120920/8a927db4/attachmen… >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> End of Wlug Digest, Vol 107, Issue 5 >> ************************************ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 107, Issue 5
by Karl Lind 22 Sep '12

22 Sep '12

Sounds more like the power supply is taking it's time to die. As the power level dips thats where your errors/reboots are popping up. Easiest thing to verify is 1.) Turn off the modem and unplug. 2.) Remove case and inspect the board. 3.) If the board's solder connections look like there are not good connections ANYWHERE on the board then you probably have a bad solder issue, if the solder looks good, it's probably a power supply on the board problem which is a chip. 4.) Post results Karl Lind On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? (E Johnson) > 2. Re: Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? (E Johnson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:11:17 -0400 > From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Wlug] Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CABmZTj0aYBHVUR83fPcMBxxpu6-YhfoPDo5G9wB1pdBAAQWwHA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Umm. Non-happy camper. ISP things have changed here, without me being > informed. Recently (2 days ago) my modem started rebooting every little > while. Zillions of T3 & T4 timouts in the modem log, Signal lavels were > perfect when it was online. I own this thing, a Motorola SB6120 purchased > late June 2010. It has not been abused. > > I am in Woosta & we all know the ISP available here. 2 techs showed up > mid-morning, to diagnose and fix this issue. One guy stood there watching; > the other guy "did stuff." They checked the signal levels on incoming line > from the box connected to the pole our back, and declared my moden Dying. > They talked to each other (not me) & seemed to think I was Granny-in-a-Box, > until they let me say more than one sentence. > > These guys also confessed that since July 202, Ch4rter does not "allow" > customers to own/run their own modems. Their consolation prize is that they > don't charge modem rental fees any more. (it's not on the bill, anyway, > FWIW). They mumbled some other mumbo jumbo and fled 5 seconds after they > learned I have my own router too, & didn't care if the modem and router > were yet in communication. They just said "better reboot" and they "no > longer" service "wireless" --which I am not running except when certain > visitors appear. I think they meant they don't diagnose routers, which has > always been the policy, and which is fine. Internal LAN issues aren't their > problem. > > So now I have a modem which may or may not be sick, but no way to test it > to make sure. Is there anyone here who can take a look at this thing & test > to see if it's Really Dying, or if Ch4rter deaded it with their latest > firmware revision of their firmware & policy change in July 2012? > > An interesting meeting theme sometime might be how to get the Verizon FIOS > in Worcester. Several years ago I watched Verizon trucks & Verizon moles > installing their fiber optics in manholes all over town. Ch4rter is running > on Verizon's infrastructure. Ch4rter internet has been working better since > then, but we're still locked out of the option to use verizon. Is this a > topic of interest to anyone? If so, I'll lead the discussion and even buy > the Pizz4. To me, this is a Large Pizza problem. > > Another interesting but probably futile discussion might center around why > we have suddenly been deprived of the ability to watch the behavior and > effectiveness of our modems, which serve internet coming from our ISP.. I > was not informed of this -- was anyone who is just a 'regular' customer? > > Meanwhile, if anyone has a test lab or whatever, where they can test my > declared-dead modem, please let me know. Otherwise it's probably a > giveaway, or another piece of Landfill Fodder. I can bring to a meeting & > can wait for results. > > Thanks & happy pizzaz, > Liz J > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20120920/8789bb41/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:31:59 -0400 > From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CABmZTj3Ghp2GHUiWHtGtbBN5NVo0HQKzkrWcvxNngP5_q2hcGQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > PS: This evening, Ch4rter Billing has deleted the upcoming service charge > for this morning's tech call. Amazing how it took 2 guys to check line > levels, then hang one moden where my other modem was, + plug in one coax & > one wall wart , then make 30-sec call to the office to get their repacement > modem provisioned & watch for blinking green lights. 2 guys. > If this happens to you (they discontinued your router & required you to use > theirs), don't eat the bill. > it does work fine, FWIW, but not impressed. > --EJ > > On 20 September 2012 19:11, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Umm. Non-happy camper. ISP things have changed here, without me being > > informed. Recently (2 days ago) my modem started rebooting every little > > while. Zillions of T3 & T4 timouts in the modem log, Signal lavels were > > perfect when it was online. I own this thing, a Motorola SB6120 > purchased > > late June 2010. It has not been abused. > > > > I am in Woosta & we all know the ISP available here. 2 techs showed up > > mid-morning, to diagnose and fix this issue. One guy stood there > watching; > > the other guy "did stuff." They checked the signal levels on incoming > line > > from the box connected to the pole our back, and declared my moden Dying. > > They talked to each other (not me) & seemed to think I was > Granny-in-a-Box, > > until they let me say more than one sentence. > > > > These guys also confessed that since July 202, Ch4rter does not "allow" > > customers to own/run their own modems. Their consolation prize is that > they > > don't charge modem rental fees any more. (it's not on the bill, anyway, > > FWIW). They mumbled some other mumbo jumbo and fled 5 seconds after they > > learned I have my own router too, & didn't care if the modem and router > > were yet in communication. They just said "better reboot" and they "no > > longer" service "wireless" --which I am not running except when certain > > visitors appear. I think they meant they don't diagnose routers, which > has > > always been the policy, and which is fine. Internal LAN issues aren't > their > > problem. > > > > So now I have a modem which may or may not be sick, but no way to test it > > to make sure. Is there anyone here who can take a look at this thing & > test > > to see if it's Really Dying, or if Ch4rter deaded it with their latest > > firmware revision of their firmware & policy change in July 2012? > > > > An interesting meeting theme sometime might be how to get the Verizon > FIOS > > in Worcester. Several years ago I watched Verizon trucks & Verizon moles > > installing their fiber optics in manholes all over town. Ch4rter is > running > > on Verizon's infrastructure. Ch4rter internet has been working better > since > > then, but we're still locked out of the option to use verizon. Is this a > > topic of interest to anyone? If so, I'll lead the discussion and even buy > > the Pizz4. To me, this is a Large Pizza problem. > > > > Another interesting but probably futile discussion might center around > why > > we have suddenly been deprived of the ability to watch the behavior and > > effectiveness of our modems, which serve internet coming from our ISP.. I > > was not informed of this -- was anyone who is just a 'regular' customer? > > > > Meanwhile, if anyone has a test lab or whatever, where they can test my > > declared-dead modem, please let me know. Otherwise it's probably a > > giveaway, or another piece of Landfill Fodder. I can bring to a meeting & > > can wait for results. > > > > Thanks & happy pizzaz, > > Liz J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20120920/8a927db4/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 107, Issue 5 > ************************************ >

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Cleaning out the basement
by Eric Martin 12 Sep '12

12 Sep '12

It's time to clean out the basement again. I have a few older computers, along with a 2U custom case and a UPS for a VoIP telephone system with a Ring / Tip style connector (o). First come first serve. Let me know offline if you want anything and I'll bring it along to the meeting tonight. -- Eric Martin

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Reminder: WLUG Meeting Wed 9/12 7PM: Raspberry Pi
by Chuck Anderson 11 Sep '12

11 Sep '12

Join us tomorrow evening at 7:00PM in Higgins Labs 230 for what should be an interesting meeting about Raspberry Pi. ----- Forwarded message from Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> ----- Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:19:04 -0400 From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 9/12 7PM: Raspberry Pi Precedence: list Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting will be held on Wednesday, September 12, at 7PM. The location will be WPI Higgns Labs, room 230 (computer lab). Wednesday, September 12, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Higgins Labs, room 230 (computer lab) WLUG member Karl Lind will be giving a presentation and demonstration of two Raspberry Pi "credit-card sized" computers that run on the ARM processor architecture. Others are welcome to bring their own Raspberry Pi or other similar devices to join in the fun. Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug ----- End forwarded message -----

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Network Engineer position open at WPI
by Frank Sweetser 10 Sep '12

10 Sep '12

Hi all, just wanted to share that we're hiring again in Network Operations here at WPI. We're looking for someone with a good networking background, but linux administration and perl/SQL programming are big pluses as well. Anyone interested can find the full job details and how to apply here: http://wpi.peopleadmin.com/applicants/Central?quickFind=51618 -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken

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Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 9/12 7PM: Raspberry Pi
by Chuck Anderson 31 Aug '12

31 Aug '12

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting will be held on Wednesday, September 12, at 7PM. The location will be WPI Higgns Labs, room 230 (computer lab). Wednesday, September 12, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Higgins Labs, room 230 (computer lab) WLUG member Karl Lind will be giving a presentation and demonstration of two Raspberry Pi "credit-card sized" computers that run on the ARM processor architecture. Others are welcome to bring their own Raspberry Pi or other similar devices to join in the fun. Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

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Help with water level problems
by Eric Martin 20 Aug '12

20 Aug '12

Hey all, I had a close call with my hot water heater this afternoon. I heard on odd noise in the pipes and it turned out that my hot water heater was dumping water out of the overflow valve. Luckily, I found it quick enough, and I'm pretty sure I got it handled for < $150. There's a 1 Gal bucket under the overflow valve, and if I had a water level detector emailing me that water is in the bucket, I could have caught this earlier. I was looking at buying an Arduino and setting up a simple circuit. I know a few people have played with Arduinos, any suggestions on which one to get and how to go about it? I don't need to know how much water is in the bucket, I was thinking about a float type device or even two wires that trip a relay. I just want a heads up that water is in the bucket so I can stop before my basement floods. Thanks in advance, -- Eric Martin

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A question about KMS API's
by Jason Couture 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

Anyone know anything about the KMS API? From userland? I'm working on a project and would like to use KMS/FB directly, as at boot there will be no binaries available except ours, No libc even. Just a few static binaries. if anyone could point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated it. I can't seem to find anything on it on google, and I really don't have the time to go pouring over the kernel source.

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 106, Issue 5
by Karl Lind 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

Hi Chuck, It doesn't have to be 2 HDMI compatible outputs. It just came to me that the Pi has a composite video and a stereo audio out port too. One of each would be super as I have power supplies, keyboards and mice for both my Pi's. The four OS's (which might be overkill for time) that I plan to bring for the demo are Raspian (a Debian distro that is running a web server), Gentoo, Fedora and OpenELEC (an XBMC type distro). Also if possible Ethernet access? Karl On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. September talk (Karl Lind) > 2. Re: September talk (Steve Pelland) > 3. Re: September talk (Chuck Anderson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:56:44 -0400 > From: Karl Lind <electrolind(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Wlug] September talk > To: Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: > <CAD3a= > eDBaeqHvAXisgYRk-3zENk9gZKZkLC6xd3TkhREhqFCbg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Yep, still up for it. Is there a way to connect two HDMI sources up to > projector/tv/video in the room? Reason I have two Pi's and I thought after > the talk can have two running for demo purposes. > > Karl > > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:51:25 -0400 > From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] September meeting topic? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <5029308D.3090301(a)wpi.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > Hi Karl, > > are you still up for giving a talk on the Pi for the September meeting? > So > far as I know it's open for topics, and that sounds like a great one. > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > On 07/13/2012 08:43 PM, Karl Lind wrote: > > Howdy all, > > > > I would like to give a talk on the Raspberry Pi project and I have two > > of them to demonstrate various OS's (I have worked with the Debian and > > Fedora implementations and look forward to the others as they come > > out.). I have four SD cards, so that's the number of OS's I can bring > > with me. > > > > Have a great summer! > > > > Karl > > ______________________________ > _________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20120816/623c6308/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:46:45 -0400 > From: Steve Pelland <steve.pelland(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] September talk > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <CAMmWueRGFZ2LYnrnsTQv=j=8uWW6rD= > yoDvufRi19VMYZO-dyg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Karl, > This meeting will be at the usual place? This will be the first one I get > to attend. I also have a Pi and wanted to chat with others that have Pi's > so this will be a great start. > > Steve > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Karl Lind <electrolind(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yep, still up for it. Is there a way to connect two HDMI sources up to > > projector/tv/video in the room? Reason I have two Pi's and I thought > after > > the talk can have two running for demo purposes. > > > > Karl > > > > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:51:25 -0400 > > From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] September meeting topic? > > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > Message-ID: <5029308D.3090301(a)wpi.edu> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > > > Hi Karl, > > > > are you still up for giving a talk on the Pi for the September meeting? > > So > > far as I know it's open for topics, and that sounds like a great one. > > > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a > solution > > that > > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > > > On 07/13/2012 08:43 PM, Karl Lind wrote: > > > Howdy all, > > > > > > I would like to give a talk on the Raspberry Pi project and I have two > > > of them to demonstrate various OS's (I have worked with the Debian and > > > Fedora implementations and look forward to the others as they come > > > out.). I have four SD cards, so that's the number of OS's I can bring > > > with me. > > > > > > Have a great summer! > > > > > > Karl > > > ______________________________ > > _________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20120816/a136e845/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:15:10 -0400 > From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] September talk > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <20120816151510.GA6563(a)angus.ind.WPI.EDU> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > The meeting room is still TBD. I can find out about connecting 2 HDMI > sources--we should be able to come up with something. > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:46:45AM -0400, Steve Pelland wrote: > > Karl, > > This meeting will be at the usual place? This will be the first one I > get > > to attend. I also have a Pi and wanted to chat with others that have Pi's > > so this will be a great start. > > > > Steve > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Karl Lind <electrolind(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Yep, still up for it. Is there a way to connect two HDMI sources up to > > > projector/tv/video in the room? Reason I have two Pi's and I thought > after > > > the talk can have two running for demo purposes. > > > > > > Karl > > > > > > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:51:25 -0400 > > > From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> > > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] September meeting topic? > > > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > > Message-ID: <5029308D.3090301(a)wpi.edu> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > > > > > > Hi Karl, > > > > > > are you still up for giving a talk on the Pi for the September > meeting? > > > So > > > far as I know it's open for topics, and that sounds like a great one. > > > > > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a > solution > > > that > > > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > > > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > > > > > On 07/13/2012 08:43 PM, Karl Lind wrote: > > > > Howdy all, > > > > > > > > I would like to give a talk on the Raspberry Pi project and I have > two > > > > of them to demonstrate various OS's (I have worked with the Debian > and > > > > Fedora implementations and look forward to the others as they come > > > > out.). I have four SD cards, so that's the number of OS's I can bring > > > > with me. > > > > > > > > Have a great summer! > > > > > > > > Karl > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 106, Issue 5 > ************************************ >

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September talk
by Karl Lind 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

Yep, still up for it. Is there a way to connect two HDMI sources up to projector/tv/video in the room? Reason I have two Pi's and I thought after the talk can have two running for demo purposes. Karl Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:51:25 -0400 From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: [Wlug] September meeting topic? To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Message-ID: <5029308D.3090301(a)wpi.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Karl, are you still up for giving a talk on the Pi for the September meeting? So far as I know it's open for topics, and that sounds like a great one. Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 07/13/2012 08:43 PM, Karl Lind wrote: > Howdy all, > > I would like to give a talk on the Raspberry Pi project and I have two > of them to demonstrate various OS's (I have worked with the Debian and > Fedora implementations and look forward to the others as they come > out.). I have four SD cards, so that's the number of OS's I can bring > with me. > > Have a great summer! > > Karl > ______________________________ _________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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BBQ interest survey: aug14/aug15 ?
by Doug Mildram 13 Aug '12

13 Aug '12

Sum sum summatime.... ...and it's crunch time, do-or-die for our annual summer WLUG bbq. I'm looking at hosting ..... REAL SOON, e.g. tues/wed aug14/15, now that I see the weather (tuesday looking like the best sunny day next week). My rough location: boylston (near berlin+Clinton, 10min from 495/hudson, 20min or less from worcester via 290 east...) Timing: loose....6-8pm or later; Challenges: my grill is half-gone (2 of 4 burners work OK) and my motivation depends on some feedback. Reply to me ..........whether you'd (want to)(be able to) attend with or w/o SO's,pets,kids,anyone! Usually I provide beef/sausages/buns/etc, a few soda choices, and leave the rest to fate or better. Here's your form letter for a reply (just to me, dmildram(a)gmail.com) --Possible #humans: _____ (opt: dogs?) _____ --Tues aug 14: ok? -- Wed aug 15: ok? -------(opt) I'd be curious what town you're coming from. Vegetarian, anyone? My wife will help me attempt healthy choices... ----------------------------- I hope to post some (anonymized) results, and hopefully choose/announce,,,,,,,,,,, perhaps by sunday eve or monday morning. --doug

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September meeting topic?
by Karl Lind 13 Aug '12

13 Aug '12

Howdy all, I would like to give a talk on the Raspberry Pi project and I have two of them to demonstrate various OS's (I have worked with the Debian and Fedora implementations and look forward to the others as they come out.). I have four SD cards, so that's the number of OS's I can bring with me. Have a great summer! Karl

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BBQ tues aug14 6pm Boylston,MA (addr,directions...)
by Doug Mildram 13 Aug '12

13 Aug '12

Sorry if the last-minute planning was inadequate for anyone. Few replies so far == small turnout == could be good anyways! You and even friends/family are invited to my house, roughly aug14 6pm-8pm, 540 Linden St Boylston MA (red house on corner of Mile Hill Rd, probably enough room in my driveway for all to park, then street is OK) I've got ample burgers,sausages,cheese,peppers,onions,buns,tortilla chips,salsa; less beverages. If you like old-fashioned verbose directions, choose one of: http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_auburn_worc_29… http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_495+62.txt http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_rte2_lancaster…

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Cross-compiling for Windows
by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com 06 Aug '12

06 Aug '12

I cross compile a program for windows on my linux box. After doing so I grab all the dlls and package them up. Typically this involves grabbing what I knew was needed and then testing on a windows box to determine if anything is missing. Is their some program in wine that can output what dlls are needed (like ldd) so I can write a script to package up everything? Obviously it doesn't generally change except when I upgrade to a new Fedora version but it would be nice to automate packaging everything. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

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x86 Android VM
by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com 20 Jul '12

20 Jul '12

Has anyone played with the x86 android images? I've tried running it under kvm but can't seem to get networking to work. I tried 4.0 rc1 a while ago. Looks like I may have found my answers on the release notes. It says ethernet doesn't work. Looks like 2.2 is the last version with working ethernet. That's disappointing. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

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WLUG july/aug
by Doug Mildram 12 Jul '12

12 Jul '12

doug> Chuck is on vacation...hope the website didn't mislead; it said "TBD" for upcoming meetings. ** So I think we're "on break" for July, and still hoping for a new August BBQ volunteer host. Or, I might. From: John Platt <jplatt39(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Wlug] July meeting? Hi! I was on campus this evening but didn't see Chuck or any signs. Did I miss something?

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July meeting?
by John Platt 12 Jul '12

12 Jul '12

Hi! I was on campus this evening but didn't see Chuck or any signs. Did I miss something?

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Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?
by E Johnson 04 Jul '12

04 Jul '12

Hi guys, I finally got a new keyboard after muddling along with my supernice one that was rapidly dying. Many errors, repeating keys, skips; cable had to be exactly the right angle; lights went out, etc. It needs rewiring. A soldering iron is on its way, whenever the lender can drop it off here, which clearly will not be today. Meanwhile the new one is almost okay, even if it is plastic. This is a Perixx PERIBOARD-502 PLUS, Wired USB Keyboard with Touchpad. BUT -- it has one serious fault. On this keyboard, the outboard key on the lower left side is FN but it needs to be CTRL. The CTRL key is in the wrong place. I use this key hundreds of times/day. So I need to remap this key to be the CTRL key. I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not using this method. Without the code, I can't xmodmap this key. I need output like this: KeyRelease event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x4600001, root 0x111, subw 0x0, time 1003909681, (508,-351), root:(512,327), state 0x4, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False -- where the part in parentheses after keysym contains the code I need. The manufacturer said they would check with their R&D, but it might take several days. Some solutions to issues like these say this can be done in the BIOS, but there's no guarantee, and I don't want to mess with the BIOS anyway. Is there another way I can find the keymap code for this key? Some keep-it-simple method that won't fry my overheated brain? Thanks very much, Liz J

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RFC: WLUG BBQ July/August timeframe
by Chuck Anderson 23 Jun '12

23 Jun '12

We usually have a WLUG summer BBQ around July or August, so I'd like to get the planning discussion going now. Are people interested in having a BBQ this year, and if so, would someone be willing to host it? WLUG should enough in the bank to fund the food, so all we need is a place with a BBQ grill and a time. Comments? Ideas? Chuck

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Re: [Wlug] OPENING - Mid to Sr level SW Engineer - Linux, C++
by John Spencer 18 Jun '12

18 Jun '12

I hope I did not insult anyone by asking for a Word resume for a "Linux" position, certainly not my intention. I get a lot of PDF's and my DB does not accept PDFs. At least I know you were reading my posting :) As I stated in my email, I will never send your resume anywhere without talking to you first. Please feel free to pass this opening along to your network Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com<www.connectedsp.com%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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OPENING - Mid to Sr level SW Engineer - Linux, C++
by John Spencer 18 Jun '12

18 Jun '12

We are seeking a Mid to Sr level Software Engineer to be responsible for software design and development solutions. This is a perm position north of Boston. Responsible for Software Development Life Cycle including design, development, integration and test " Demonstrable ability to communicate complex concepts verbally and in writing " Responsible for major portions of software projects. " Write system design and specifications " Development in accordance with design requirements " Perform software verification procedures and document results " Generate software release Skills & Experience " BSCS or related technical degree " 4+ years of strong C++ and Linux " Strong Object Oriented Design experience " Background with multi-threading and Boost libraries " Experience with software design patterns " Ability to work with vendors, customers and other engineering groups " Experience with medical devices or experience in a regulated industry " Strong written and verbal communication skills Please send a Word version of your resume with any questions. Please Note, your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com<www.connectedsp.com%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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looking to join the local linux community
by Wolf Bronski 18 Jun '12

18 Jun '12

Hello, My name is Rich. I've been using Ubuntu and CentOS for a while now. I'm into servers and I'm interested in documentation. I'd very much like to come to the next meeting as I live very close to WPI. I've written a guide about running a Redmine server on CentOS 6.2. It's not complete because i want to add other repositories like Git and SVN besides Mercurial (hg). You can download it at http://107.22.171.253/hg/test/file/fb531026ab76 I've written it in DocBook but there is also a PDF in the repo. Please email me if you wish. Have a great day.

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Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 6/13 7PM: Secure Virtual Containers/Multi-Tenancy
by Chuck Anderson 13 Jun '12

13 Jun '12

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting will be held next Wednesday, June 13, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus Center, Chairman's Room (room 129). Wednesday, June 13, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Chairman's Room (room 129) Dan Walsh of Red Hat will be giving a presentation on Secure Virtual Containers/Multi-Tenancy: "During the Last few years as computers have become more powerful, there has been a move towards server computing. Most people call this "Cloud" computing. One key feature of this is moving servers out of the data center and onto virtual machines. My presentation will describe this as Multitenancy.. This talk will cover technologies from RHEL5, RHEL6 and RHEL7. SELinux, Virtualization, Sandbox and Secure Container Applications." Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

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USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected
by E Johnson 27 May '12

27 May '12

We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of the time, but not always. If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged in back there. This is output of lsusb: Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no clue. Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's becoming more frequent now. I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching with the right terms). I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of which is pasted here below. I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. Very frustratiing problem. Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much, Liz J May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 27 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 28 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2619 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2620 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 29 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 30 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2621 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2622 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0

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WLUG Meeting: Wed May 9, Morgan Hall
by Chuck Anderson 10 May '12

10 May '12

Hi folks, This month, the Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting is back to our usual Wednesday and our old location: Wednesday, May 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Morgan Hall What do people want to talk about this month? I can demo Fedora 17 and some of its new features, including one fairly controversial change: moving everything to /usr. Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

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Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?
by Aljerin Butler,Jr. 10 May '12

10 May '12

You can also try: ls | sort > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >________________________________ > From: "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 12:00 PM >Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 103, Issue 3 > >----- Forwarded Message ----- > >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (E Johnson) > 2. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (Theo Van Dinter) > 3. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > (kevin.paetzold) > 4. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (E Johnson) > 5. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (Theo Van Dinter) > 6. Re: list filenames within directory > output to text file? > SOLVED (E Johnson) >Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! > >I used: > >(in the directory I need output from) > >ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt > >That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we >can print it. > >Beautiful. Thanks guys! > >Liz > > >On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >> within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >> file? >> >> I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >> order to sort. >> >> Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >> >> I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >> probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >> names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >> >> I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >> >> Thanks extremely, >> Liz J > > >Even better, you don't need the "-1". ls determines if it's output is going to a tty and auto-enables the "-1" mode when it's not, such as when you're writing to a file. :) > > >I have to ask though, why would you put the list of files in a spreadsheet just to print it? Seems like something you could do via the machine itself (if printing is configured), or worst case you just print the text file. > > > >On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:22 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! >> >>I used: >> >>(in the directory I need output from) >> >> ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >> >>That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we >>can print it. >> >>Beautiful. Thanks guys! >> >>Liz >> >> >>On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >>> within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >>> file? >>> >>> I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >>> order to sort. >>> >>> Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >>> >>> I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >>> probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >>> names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >>> >>> I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >>> >>> Thanks extremely, >>> Liz J >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >i would do something like: >tree -f -i dirname > dirlist.txt > > >A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand >side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor >doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. >It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in >our directory. > >Or, I need a command which will print the filenames in several columns >(six, I think, with reasonlable space in between columns) on a series >of landscape-oriented pages. I probably need to define the font. I >think we used 8pt arial last time, which came out on one page. Now we >have 3x as many files in the directory but still need a printout for >reference. > >Liz > >On 8 May 2012 18:27, Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: >> Even better, you don't need the "-1". ls determines if it's output is going >> to a tty and auto-enables the "-1" mode when it's not, such as when you're >> writing to a file. :) >> >> I have to ask though, why would you put the list of files in a spreadsheet >> just to print it? Seems like something you could do via the machine itself >> (if printing is configured), or worst case you just print the text file. >> >> >> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:22 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! >>> >>> I used: >>> >>> (in the directory I need output from) >>> >>> ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt >>> >>> That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we >>> can print it. >>> >>> Beautiful. Thanks guys! >>> >>> Liz >>> >>> >>> On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames >>> > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text >>> > file? >>> > >>> > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in >>> > order to sort. >>> > >>> > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. >>> > >>> > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but >>> > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file >>> > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. >>> > >>> > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. >>> > >>> > Thanks extremely, >>> > Liz J >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > >On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand >>side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor >>doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. >>It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in >>our directory. >> > > >So you want something similar to the terminal ls output, ie: filenames in columns? >You can do something like "ls | pr -6tT" which will generate a 6 column output w/ the filenames. >You can further tweak pr with other options. > >OK. That produced an output such as: > >005p080_081 038p332_333 040p392_393 100p112_113 405p074_075 414p230_231 >005p082_083 038p372_373 040p414_415 1044p39v_14 405p092_093 414p338_339 >005p094_095 038p378_379 040p450_451 1052p211v_2 405p196_197 414p428_429 >005p118_119 038p400_401 040p472_473 105p076_076 405p232_233 414p467_468 >005p124_125 038p426_427 040p482_483 106p396_397 405p250_251 416p064_065 >005p126_127 038p438_439 041p010_011 107p504_505 405p322_323 416p174_175 >005p150_151 038p590_591 041p068_069 107p512_513 405p328_329 416p198_199 >416p212_213 424p174_175 433p248_249 457p314_315 504p204_205 762Ap254_25 >416p294_295 425p006_007 434p216_217 459p068_069 661Ap032_03 762Ap266_26 >417p052_053 426p034_035 434p256_257 459p164_165 661p028_029 762p130_131 > >it printed to terminal. > >The ls command with redirect into text file did work though! All it >needed then was to copy/paste into word processor, then format into >colums, select font & type size. We got 500 filenames on 2 pages >horizontal. > >That's our checklist --it's done. Looks good. We're happy. > >Thanks again, >Liz > > >On 8 May 2012 20:18, Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: >> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> A text file containing 500 names would print on just the left-hand >>> side of who-knows how many pages. We need this in a word processor >>> doc, which we can make into columns, then print on only 2 or 3 sheets. >>> It's just for reference, so we know if we already have this file in >>> our directory. >> >> >> So you want something similar to the terminal ls output, ie: filenames in >> columns? >> You can do something like "ls | pr -6tT" which will generate a 6 column >> output w/ the filenames. >> You can further tweak pr with other options. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file? SOLVED
by E Johnson 09 May '12

09 May '12

Wow! Perfect! Thanks to everyone! I used: (in the directory I need output from) ls -1 > /home/EJ/Directory/CurrentList.txt That text should now drop into an XL doc or something, from where we can print it. Beautiful. Thanks guys! Liz On 8 May 2012 17:52, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames > within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text > file? > > I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in > order to sort. > > Don't need to know permissions or anything else. > > I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but > probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file > names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. > > I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. > > Thanks extremely, > Liz J

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Re: [Wlug] list filenames within directory > output to text file?
by kevin.paetzold 08 May '12

08 May '12

i would do something like: tree -f -i dirname > dirlist.txt

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list filenames within directory > output to text file?
by E Johnson 08 May '12

08 May '12

Is there an app or command line tool which can copy all filenames within a certain directory, and output these filenames to a plain-text file? I need to list about 400 filenames, then drop these into an xl doc, in order to sort. Don't need to know permissions or anything else. I think sort might do it < http://ss64.com/bash/sort.html >, but probably I need help creating a command that will list only the file names, which I can then copy/paste to an xl doc. I am running Debian. I have one Squeeze and one Lenny here. Thanks extremely, Liz J

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(no subject)
by Jason Couture 06 May '12

06 May '12

Anyone know of any place hiring for entry level it? I'm fairly skilled with both linux system administration and have a good knowledge of windows system administration for small AD setups.

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Reminder: April WLUG Meeting: ZFS: Changed time/location
by Chuck Anderson 10 Apr '12

10 Apr '12

Here is a reminder for this month's WLUG meeting. See you Thursday at 7PM sharp in the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room. ----- Forwarded message from Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> ----- From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> To: wlug(a)wlug.org Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:42:16 -0400 Subject: [Wlug] Announce: April WLUG Meeting: ZFS: Changed time/location Precedence: list Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Hi folks, This month, the Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting will be held on THURSDAY instead of the usual Wednesday, and the meeting will be starting promptly at 7PM since we must finish and be out of the room by 8PM. Additionally, the location is different this month: Thursday, April 12, 7:00 - 8:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Century Room (room 331) Longtime WLUG member Tim Keller will be talking about ZFS, the Zettabyte FileSystem for Oracle Solaris and FreeBSD (ports available for Linux too). I'm sure there will be a demo as well. Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by Aljerin Butler,Jr. 03 Apr '12

03 Apr '12

Hello all, This is a LinkedIn issue. I selected several people to connect to and LinkedIn "sneaked in" the rest of my address book contacts. On the original invitation presented by LinkedIn, I assumed that the half dozen or so contacts I saw were all there was. I didn't notice if there were any additional pages from which to select contacts ("Next" button). Al Butler >________________________________ > From: "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 9:41 PM >Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 101, Issue 6 > >----- Forwarded Message ----- > >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Jason Couture) > 2. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (E Johnson) > 3. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Eric Martin) > 4. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (E Johnson) > 5. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Eric Martin) > >Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email contacts. >On Mar 23, 2012 6:59 PM, "Eric Martin" <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >It was sent to the wlug mailing list. My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn, the same thing happened with Facebook a few years back, IIRC (or was that on another mailing list?) >> >> >>On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:33 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>Noooo! >>> >>>Did anyone else from WLUG receive this? If so, let's fix it. >>> >>>Please don't use the private WLUG mailing list contact info for invitations to social sites! >>> >>>Al, please delete me from your Contacts immediately. >>> >>>WLUG: maybe some kind of Privacy statement should be posted on the WLUG website (link on main page). I looked for some statement about how the mailing list contacts should be private, but found none. Private mailing lists are not for mining. >>> >>>Wrong, bad, no, please, no. My contact is not to be shared, not at any time, for any reason. >>> >>>Thanks, >>>Liz J >>> >>>If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) >>> >>> >>>On 23 March 2012 18:14, Al Butler <albutlerjr(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From Al Butler >>>> >>>>Information Technology and Services Professional >>>>Greater Boston Area >>>> >>>> >>>> I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. >>>> >>>>- Al >>>> >>>> >>>>Confirm that you know Al >>>> >>>> >>>>You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Unsubscribe >>>>© 2012, LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct. Mountain View, CA 94043, USA >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Wlug mailing list >>>>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>>> >>>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Wlug mailing list >>>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> >> >> >> >>-- >>Eric Martin >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn > >Obviously so. > >Jason also commented: > >> Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email contacts > >Not just "be careful" but more like: "Do Not allow" sites and apps any access to your email contacts at all. > >Ppls contact info is not owned by whoever has the person in their Contacts list. > >Maybe a link could be added to the WLUG mailing list signup page, sending a proposed (requesting-to-join) WLUG mailing list member to a page stating Privacy policy (non-share contacts info). If a proposed (requesting) mailing list member must read Privacy policy, then agree (click Yes to Agree) before becoming a member of the mailing list, maybe it would prevent the idea that Contact lists can be so casually given away. > >Liz J > >To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. > > >On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn >> >>Obviously so. >> >>Jason also commented: >> >> >>> Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email contacts >> >>Not just "be careful" but more like: "Do Not allow" sites and apps any access to your email contacts at all. >> >>Ppls contact info is not owned by whoever has the person in their Contacts list. >> >>Maybe a link could be added to the WLUG mailing list signup page, sending a proposed (requesting-to-join) WLUG mailing list member to a page stating Privacy policy (non-share contacts info). If a proposed (requesting) mailing list member must read Privacy policy, then agree (click Yes to Agree) before becoming a member of the mailing list, maybe it would prevent the idea that Contact lists can be so casually given away. >> >>Liz J >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > > >-- >Eric Martin >I should have made that more clear. > >Mail-list address or not, Iit still is not okay to give the WLUG email >address to any other entities whatsoever. Someone shared the WLUG a >mailing address with a certain social/commercial website. Then >secondhandedly WLUG mailing list contacted x number of individual >contacts on behalf of the social/commercial website The message >included a direct link to this commercial website. List members were >invited to click on this link, or else to click on the UNsubscribe >link. > >Even sharing the WLUG contact address with outside entities is Non-OK. >We all got Spammed because someone decided it was okay to give our >email to ___.com.. > >Liz J > >If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, >you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. >1969) > >On 23 March 2012 21:09, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have >> wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. >> > > > >I agree it's not ok to share your address book, but accidents happen. That, and I was more getting at the fact that X service doesn't have our individual email addresses. > > >On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:34 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >I should have made that more clear. >> >>Mail-list address or not, Iit still is not okay to give the WLUG email >>address to any other entities whatsoever. Someone shared the WLUG a >>mailing address with a certain social/commercial website. Then >>secondhandedly WLUG mailing list contacted x number of individual >>contacts on behalf of the social/commercial website The message >>included a direct link to this commercial website. List members were >>invited to click on this link, or else to click on the UNsubscribe >>link. >> >>Even sharing the WLUG contact address with outside entities is Non-OK. >>We all got Spammed because someone decided it was okay to give our >>email to ___.com.. >> >> >>Liz J >> >>If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, >>you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. >>1969) >> >> >>On 23 March 2012 21:09, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have >>> wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. >>> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > >-- >Eric Martin > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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Announce: April WLUG Meeting: ZFS: Changed time/location
by Chuck Anderson 02 Apr '12

02 Apr '12

Hi folks, This month, the Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting will be held on THURSDAY instead of the usual Wednesday, and the meeting will be starting promptly at 7PM since we must finish and be out of the room by 8PM. Additionally, the location is different this month: Thursday, April 12, 7:00 - 8:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Century Room (room 331) Longtime WLUG member Tim Keller will be talking about ZFS, the Zettabyte FileSystem for Oracle Solaris and FreeBSD (ports available for Linux too). I'm sure there will be a demo as well. Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

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Talk for April...
by Tim Keller 30 Mar '12

30 Mar '12

Hey Everybody, At the last meeting, there was some talk about ZFS... Would people be interested in me doing a talk about ZFS? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by Al Butler 26 Mar '12

26 Mar '12

LinkedIn ------------ I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Al Al Butler Information Technology and Services Professional Greater Boston Area Confirm that you know Al Butler: https://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/isd/6412973860/N4Pmccpb/?hs=… -- You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Click to unsubscribe: http://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/uSTdRBL8TntbriFQlbXcoPTDk9Qxi… (c) 2012 LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA.

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Using Meetup
by Henrique 22 Mar '12

22 Mar '12

Hey, Yesterday I was browsing around Meetup.com, and found another group called Worcester Web Technology <http://www.meetup.com/Worcester-Web-Technology/>, and they are also meeting at WPI, apparently on the third Thursday of every month. (today) I recommend WLUG also create a meetup group for attracting new members. Also Meetup is nice for sending out reminder emails about the meetings on the day before. Cheers, Henrique "nican" Polido.

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Belated announcement
by James Gray 10 Mar '12

10 Mar '12

After a recent wlug meeting (I think it was December?) I mentioned that my wife and I were expecting a child. Tim asked me to send an announcement to the list. (So this announcement is not completely off topic.) Below is my belated announcement regarding my son's birth. Since I use mostly Linux and my wife Mac OS. We'll have to wait and see which one he picks up first. But at least it won't be Windows. :-) James and Heather Gray are the proud parents of Owen James born 10:26 p.m. December 31st, weighing 8 pounds, 4 ounces and 22 inches long. Many fireworks were launched in his honor :-) All is well with Owen, Heather and James.

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OPENINGS - Linux Kernel Engineer - perm in MA
by John Spencer 01 Mar '12

01 Mar '12

Hi All, We have a client in MA looking for a Sr or Prin Linux Kernel Engineer in the networking space. Must have strong and recent experience with Linux kernel development Must have experience with Network drivers Must have strong C experience Must understand TCP/IP and L2/L3. Please send any questions or interest with your resume to jspencer(a)connectedsp.com<mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com> Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com <www.connectedsp.com%20%20%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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Ceph
by Jason Couture 26 Feb '12

26 Feb '12

Has anyone here used ceph? I'm debating using it in a production cluster and would like input, alternatives, etc. Requirements: High availability, scales dynamically, fault tolerant, NO CODE CHANGES ( must appear as a posix compatible file system and be able to be mounted as such) nodes must be able to be added to the cluster at will. Prefer multi to multi copy for recovery (removed slow disk recovery bottleneck)

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Announce: March WLUG Meeting & Northeast Linux Fest
by Chuck Anderson 09 Feb '12

09 Feb '12

Hi folks, NEXT month, we will have our regularly scheduled WLUG meeting: Wednesday, March 14, 7:00PM but most likely in a slightly different location. Our current meeting room will be in the process of being annexed by the dining hall, so we'll most likely meet in our old/previous meeting room on the opposite side of the same building. ALSO, the Northeast Linux Fest is happening again this year: Saturday, March 17, 9:00AM at Worcester State University. I encourage you to register for free here: http://www.northeastlinuxfest.org/ Thanks, and see you next month! Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

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Announce: WLUG Meeting Wednesday 2/8 7PM
by Chuck Anderson 08 Feb '12

08 Feb '12

Hi folks, We ARE having a WLUG meeting tonight, Wednesday, February 8 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

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Postgres cluster
by Jason Couture 26 Jan '12

26 Jan '12

Could someone walk me through building a 3 machine postgres cluster with automatic fail over? I've searched and searched and I'm just not getting it. I currently have postgres 9.1 installed with 1 database as 9.1/main. I'd like to cluster this to provide ha and faster query times. Writes to the DB can be forced to the master only, so read-only slaves are okay (there are far more reads than writes) Can anyone help me out?

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Vintage Computer Festival East 2012
by Evan Koblentz 26 Jan '12

26 Jan '12

Hello, I'm writing to user groups and hackerspaces to inform your members of a very unique upcoming event -- the Vintage Computer Festival East 8.0, May 5-6, in Wall, New Jersey. If you're not familiar with the Vintage Computer Festival, then please take a moment to keep reading .... The event is run by a user group called MARCH (Mid-Atlantic Retro Computing Hobbyists) of which I'm president. Each day of the weekend-long show contains lectures/workshops (in the morning) and an exhibit hall (in the afternoon.) This year's keynote speakers include Dartmouth's Dr. Thomas Kurtz, who co-invented BASIC (on Saturday) and Apple's Daniel Kottke (Steve Jobs' college buddy, India travel companion, Apple 1 board builder in Jobs' parent's garage, and Apple II/III/Mac engineer), on Sunday. Both days, in the afternoon, is our hands-on exhibit hall. Imagine an antique car show -- the cars are nice to look at, but you can't touch anything, and you certainly can't drive. Well, that is no fun at all! Our exhibitors are required to have their systems up and running for live demos all weekend! People can see minicomputers, punch card machines, teletypes, homebrew-era computers, 8-bit micros, etc., all live and running. The venue for our event is the InfoAge Science Center, which is a grassroots, all-volunteer, non-profit facility. It contains a computer museum (run by my user group), along with museums for antique radio/TV, shipwrecks, military communications, amateur radio, etc. -- all operated by independent clubs. Best of all, our event is dirt-cheap to get in. Adult tickets are just $10 a day and $15 for the weekend. Kids are admitted for free. Proceeds benefit our museum, which is strictly educational in nature -- we're all volunteers. In fact, we all lament that our jobs and families interfere with our volunteer time. :) Details are frequently updated at http://www.vintage.org/2012/east/ and http://www.facebook.com/vcfeast8. We'd be very grateful if you could share this announcement with your group members. People attend the Vintage Computer Festival East from all around the U.S. and even from other countries and continents. For now, however, we're reaching out to our fellow user groups around the northeast and mid-Atlantic. Thank you, - Evan Koblentz (evan(a)snarc.net, cell: 646-546-9999)

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OPENINGS - C, Linux, Network openings - perm and contract in MA
by John Spencer 25 Jan '12

25 Jan '12

We have several openings with clients in MA for Sr or Prin level Linux engineers. Northwest of Boston - perm (strong networking/datacom/telecom background) Each bullet represents key skills for a different opening * C, Linux kernel, network drivers, network stack experience * C, layer 2, layer 3, strong TCP/IP * C, Linux, (Linux kernel is a plus), Ethernet switching Cambridge - perm * C, embedded Linux, some kernel work, Agile/scrum environment Contract - West of Boston (12+ months) * C, embedded Linux, consumer electronics, wireless experience Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com <www.connectedsp.com%20%20%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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Embedded Linux Engineers contract openings
by John Spencer 20 Jan '12

20 Jan '12

Our client west of Boston has a couple of openings for strong embedded Linux engineers for long-term contracts. Must be US citizen or Perm Resident, must be local Embedded Linux (RTOS) Engineers (12+ mths contracts, west of Boston) Engineers will design, develop and deliver drivers and protocols for a wireless product. Engineer must have experience with low level embedded RTOS design and development including BSP's, board bring up and collaborating with the electrical engineers. Qualifications include: o Extensive experience with embedded Linux including kernel development (other RTOS's such as VxWorks, Integrity, Nucleus, etc. may be considered) o Experience with wireless embedded devices o Experience in audio technologies o Experience developing embedded apps for small devices with processing power a consideration. o Strong C/C++ skills. Assembly would be a strong plus o Experience with OOD. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com <www.connectedsp.com%20%20%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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Super Wifi arrives in Hanover County, NC
by Tom Poe 18 Jan '12

18 Jan '12

Just read that Hanover County, NC, is moving to the FCC's authorized use of unlicensed broadcast frequency ("white spaces"). So, maybe it's a good time to put a proposal together to get our state counties to do the same. Anyone know the technical specs that would lay out a viable solution our county commissioners can consider? If you're interested, please contact me, or maybe we could discuss this as a topic on the mail list (best). Thanks, Tom

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Where to find a software contractor?
by Andy Stewart 18 Jan '12

18 Jan '12

HI guys, I know a small businessman who is interested in potentially hiring somebody to write a piece of custom software. He is wondering where he would look to seek out contractors with the right credentials for this small project. He didn't mention too many details, but it sounds like the project will have something to do with bar code scanning, optical character recognition, and some type of graphical interface, most probably in a Windows environment. Where would you look if you were seeking a software professional on a short term contract basis? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Re: [Wlug] Where to find a software contractor?
by Steven Greenberg 18 Jan '12

18 Jan '12

The Boston PHP group has job fairs and many members, some are software contractors. www.bostonphp.org -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: http://www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 99, Issue 13
by David Hardy 17 Jan '12

17 Jan '12

Depending on how critical the need; local college and university boards and, of course, user groups; also local Craigslist and the local/regional temp contract agencies like Adecco Technical and Engineering, CTG, etc. On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Where to find a software contractor? (Andy Stewart) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:27:01 -0500 > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Where to find a software contractor? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <4F14CE65.1030302(a)comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > HI guys, > > I know a small businessman who is interested in potentially hiring > somebody to write a piece of custom software. He is wondering where he > would look to seek out contractors with the right credentials for this > small project. > > He didn't mention too many details, but it sounds like the project will > have something to do with bar code scanning, optical character > recognition, and some type of graphical interface, most probably in a > Windows environment. > > Where would you look if you were seeking a software professional on a > short term contract basis? > > Thanks, > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) > Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group > Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group > President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF) > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 99, Issue 13 > ************************************ >

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IPv6
by William Smith 12 Jan '12

12 Jan '12

I read the powerpoint presentation that was posted here a short while ago and found it a bit helpful. I started setting up IPv6 on my home LAN last year. I got as far as setting up my Linux server to open a tunnel through SixXS. My ISP doesn't offer IPv6 quite yet, and even if they did, my firewall doesn't support it. That's why the tunnel. What I can't do yet is use IPv6 from other systems on my LAN. From the server, I can get almost anywhere I want to go using IPv6. Using the notes from the PPT presentation, I found out that I might have only STARTED setting it up. It looks like parts that should be there aren't, but I don't want to blindly set things without fully understanding what I'm messing with. I'm not sure if I have to put an address on the ethernet interface and set up a route or what. Any thoughts on what to watch for? -- Bill Smith Fall River, MA

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Meeting this week???
by Tim Keller 12 Jan '12

12 Jan '12

Hey gang, Are we going to have a meeting this week? If so, what topic would people like to talk about? Thanks, Tim.

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second annual Northeast Linux Fest
by Jonathan Nadeau 10 Jan '12

10 Jan '12

Hello list Announcing the 2nd annual Northeast GNU/Linuxfest. Where: Worcester State University, Worcester MA When: March 17, 2012 Info: http://northeastlinuxfest.org Last year we had just speakers at the event. This year we are stepping it up considerably. We are featuring a hackerspace competition where teams from across the Northeast will compete for prizes for best design. This years theme is accessibility. We will also hold LPI and BSD exams on the morning of the event. The folks from Open Street Map will hold workshops throughout the day. We also have tables from various sponsors. Among the keynote speakers this year will be the other organizer for the event Jonathan Nadeau. Jonathan is blind but this has not prevented him from working with Debian, Fedora and Triquel in hopes of making each distribution more accessible for vision impaired or physically disabled. This is an event that can also be used to meet other people in the linux world and make new contacts. This is an all day event. All events will be held in the main student center. There is also a cafeteria on the second floor which features a $5 all you can eat buffet. Last but not least, if you are 21 or older we have our very popular after party event at Jillians. We also have arranged to get special room rates at the Worcester Marriott. You must reserve your room before February 17, 2012 to get this rate. You can either use the link off the Northeastlinuxfest website or you can make reservations over the phone but be sure to mention the Northeast Linuxfest group to get the rate. You can get to Worcester by train or bus if you do not have a ride. You can find that information on the website as well. We hope you can attend and most most important, the admission is free! The website again is http://northeastlinuxfest.org Take back control of your software, take back control of your computer! -- Jonathan Nadeau http://www.jnadeau.org Northeast GNU/Linux fest http://www.northeastlinuxfest.org

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Monitor resolution ...
by David Glaser 09 Jan '12

09 Jan '12

I was looking at monitors at WurstBuy and noticed that the maximum vertical resolution is 1080 lines. I then looked at the sites of the various monitor manufacturers and also noticed that almost all of their offerings has a maximum vertical resolution of 1080 lines. You could get higher resolution but the prices are through the roof. Can anyone shed some light on the trend? -David

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Re: [Wlug] Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?
by Jason Couture 07 Jan '12

07 Jan '12

You can give me a call sometime if you like, and I can tell you what you need to know. Its a bit much to type out. If you're interested reply directly to me and ill give you my number. On Jan 4, 2012 11:54 PM, "Jason Couture" <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If you open the casing, you'll find 1 to 4, 2 wire electrical connectors. > (Usually two). The wires are usually pink and white, but can be different. > They are the power wires for the back light, which is ccfl? I think? They > require a high voltage to operate (30,000v) the inverter changes the > internal voltage (5-12v) to the required voltage. If its burnt out, the > back light may not work at all, or may work at first and then turn off. If > you look carefully the picture will still be on the screen but almost > impossible to see. Attached are some pictures of the wires from a lamp I > removed from an Acer LCD panel. Of all the ones I've taken apart this is > more or less universal. The inverter is usually highly specific to the > monitor. Easiest way to find one is to take the old one out and get the > model number off of it. > On Jan 4, 2012 11:40 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I bought a new monitor. We cannot be down, this was being used for a >> project. This is now a (non-working) retired spare. >> >> Can you tell us more about whatever inverter it might need, or how to >> diagnose? >> >> I would like to hear how to fix these, in case Monitor 2 (identical >> twin) goes down. Identical twin was actually bought earlier & is 5 >> seconds out of warranty, but still rock-solid. But if it dies we will >> not be happy campers. >> >> Thanks, >> Liz >> >> On 4 January 2012 23:22, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Sounds like the inverter, did you see if they were available? There >> usually >> > fairly easy to change. >> > >> > On Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM, "E Johnson" <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking out >> >> 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still >> >> doing just fine!). >> >> >> >> This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI or >> >> VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, at >> >> least I always enjoyed it. >> >> >> >> Specs: >> >> Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, (WSXGA+), >> >> 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) >> >> >> >> This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but >> >> flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it >> >> (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in Texas), >> >> who will fix it & return within a few weeks. >> >> Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper >> >> than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, the >> >> only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. >> >> >> >> Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the >> thing. >> >> >> >> E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. >> >> >> >> Liz J >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wlug mailing list >> >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >

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Spam
by Jason Couture 07 Jan '12

07 Jan '12

If anyone knows a good way to get various types of spam, please let me know. I've tried the usual suspects and tactics but I'm not getting enough (approx 1 message per hour Max). I'm attempting to train a Bayesian filter. I've got a honeypot email address setup (honeypot(a)openflock.com) if anyone has a maildir formatted spam folder that has alot in it, please feel free to tar it and send it to me. I'm looking for approx 3,000+ emails.

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[SPF:Probably_Forged] Re: Monitor resolution ...
by Robert Krawitz 07 Jan '12

07 Jan '12

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 11:45:01 -0500, Frank Sweetser wrote: > > In the past, tv and monitors were two seperate products that shared > some common underlying technology. Nowadays, they're just different > market segments for the same product, differing mostly in the size, > case, and marketing. > > Plus, since most HD content is recorded at a native resolution of > 1080, watching it on a monitor with a physical resolution of 1080 (or > multiple thereof) gives the best results. This is nice if you want to > watch blue ray of HD streaming on you pc. If you have a 1920x1200 monitor, there's no problem: just letterbox the 1920x1080 output. I recently bought a used Dell Precision M6500 laptop; I wouldn't consider an M6600, despite the faster processors, because of the inferior screen. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- http://ProgFree.org Project lead for Gutenprint -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

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Acer Flat-screen monitor, needs repair, does anyone want?
by E Johnson 05 Jan '12

05 Jan '12

Offering this here first. I have a monitor which started blacking out 3 days ago. I always liked this monitor (had 2, the other one still doing just fine!). This is an Acer Flat-screen monitor, 19-inch screen, 1680x1050, DVI or VGA input. The resoultion on this is especially nice. Good color, at least I always enjoyed it. Specs: Acer X193WBD. 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 1680x1050, (WSXGA+), 2000:1, DVI, Black (A179-1944) This ls not-quite 3 years old, still in warranty. It powers on, but flickers, then black-screens. Acer says they can and will fix it (free parts / labor) . It needs to be shipped back to Acer (in Texas), who will fix it & return within a few weeks. Shipping might be around $40.00, but is still considerably cheaper than buying a new monitor like this. Acer ships back at no cost, the only shiping cost is one-way, TO Acer. Or if you are good at fixing stuff like this, it might be just the thing. E-mail me for details if interested. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. Liz J

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WLUG meeting?
by Tim Keller 13 Dec '11

13 Dec '11

Hey Gang, Are we having a meeting this month? I would *think* it would be on the 14th... Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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OPENING - Sr Software Engineer - C/Linux - perm in Cambridge area
by John Spencer 05 Dec '11

05 Dec '11

We have an opening for a Sr Software Engineer. This is a perm position in the Cambridge area for a sharp engineer with 7-10+ yrs of experience. I have included some info below. In the spirit of the Holiday Season, the season of giving, if you are not interested in this position and even if you don't know anyone looking, please share this information with your network, as more than likely someone in your network knows someone that could use help finding a new position. Sr Software Engineer We are looking for a well rounded Sr Software Engineer that is interested in working in a collaborative environment on a variety of projects. Must have strong C programming skills. C++ and Java are a plus Must have strong Linux background and experience Systems software experience is needed Ability to come up to speed quickly and desire to work on a variety of projects and technology Experience working in an Agile environment is a plus Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com <www.connectedsp.com%20%20%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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[OT] Internet Service Provider
by Chuck Noyes 02 Dec '11

02 Dec '11

Hi All, I'm getting fed up with Verizon's inability to fix their DSL service - it's been incredibly slow for the last couple of months. Customer support has been no help. So, I'm curious what ISP people like (and don't like). I'd prefer a local one, but at this point, I'm not fussy. I'm looking for something reliable. We have Charter as the cable TV provider. I don't know if I want to go that route. I don't want to start a "religious war" - I'm just looking for information so I can make an informed decision. Thanks, -Chuck

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[WPI] Linux Installfest tomorrow
by Henrique 29 Nov '11

29 Nov '11

Hello!, Just a reminder that the Linux Installfest is tomorrow at Worcester Polytechnic Institute. The event is geared towards helping WPI students get started with Linux, but anyone is welcome to join, help, or just chat. What: Linux Installfest Where: WPI, Kaven Hall 202<http://www.wpi.edu/Academics/ATC/Facilities/Classrooms/kh202.html>, (google maps<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=42.27484,-71.805884&daddr=…> ) When: November 29, 2011, 6pm to 11pm If you have any questions, feel free to send me an e-mail. Thank you, Henrique "nican" Polido.

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Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider
by Steven Greenberg 25 Nov '11

25 Nov '11

Since Charter's modem is intended to connect to an Ethernet network and you wireless router is intended to connect to an ethernet network, then all should work fine together. That is the benefit of a standard. /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: http://www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

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Re: [Wlug] [OT] Internet Service Provider
by Steven Greenberg 24 Nov '11

24 Nov '11

I am happy with Charter. I use their Modem, but my own wireless router. I can't get Verizon DSL out here in the boondocks, so once I went with Charter for the internet, I did the phone with them, too. /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: http://www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

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Sr Software Engineer - C/Linux - perm in Cambridge area
by John Spencer 16 Nov '11

16 Nov '11

We have an opening for a Sr Software Engineer. This is a perm position for a sharp engineer with 7-10+ yrs of experience. Our client is looking for a well rounded Sr Software Engineer that is interested in working in a collaborative environment. Must have strong C programming skills. C++ and Java are a plus Must have strong Linux background and experience Systems software experience is needed Ability to come up to speed quickly and desire to work on a variety of projects and technology Experience working in an Agile environment is a plus. Please send resumes and any questions to the email address below. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com<http://www.connectedsp.com> GET CONNECTED! All information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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jQuery help?
by John Stoffel 15 Nov '11

15 Nov '11

Anyone using jQuery (javascript) to program some client side elements in a web page? For example, I'm looking to have a drop down with a vary number of records to display on a page, and I want to update the display without reloading the page. So I'm playing with using 'Mojolicious::Lite' and some jQuery, but I'm hitting some brick walls. Anyone care to look at this code below and tell me why I don't see my selected values from the two different <select> pairs showing up in the named <div> pairs? #!/usr/bin/perl # Based on: http://api.jquery.com/change/ use Mojolicious::Lite; get '/top' => sub { my $self = shift; $self->stash(x => 10); $self->render('top'); }; app->secret('sweets'); app->start; __DATA__ @@ top.html.ep % title "jQuery dropdown select tests"; % layout "head"; <select name="sweets" multiple="multiple"> <option>Chocolate</option> <option selected="selected">Candy</option> <option>Taffy</option> <option selected="selected">Caramel</option> <option>Fudge</option> <option>Cookie</option> </select> <div id="sweets"></div> <script type="text/javascript"> $("select").change(function () { var strstr = ""; $("select option:selected").each(function () { strstr += $(this).text() + " "; }); $("div#sweets").text(strstr); }) .change(); </script> <hr> <select name="trees"> <option>Oak</option> <option selected="selected">Beech</option> <option>Pine</option> <option>Ash</option> <option>Willow</option> <option>Elm</option> </select> <script type="text/javascript"> $("select").change(function () { var str = ""; $("select option:selected").each(function () { str += $(this).text() + " "; }); $("div#trees").value(str); }) .change(); </script> <div id="trees"></div> @@ head.html.ep <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <title> <%= $title %> </title> <style> div { color:red; } </style> <script src="http://code.jquery.com/jquery-latest.js"></script> </head> <body> <%= content %? </body> </html> --

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LISA Conference in Boston
by Chuck Anderson 12 Nov '11

12 Nov '11

Here is a great opportunity to go to a professional Sysadmin/Linux/UNIX conference right here in Boston. Early Bird registration ends Monday. ===================================== Invitation to attend: The 25th Annual Large Installation System Administration Conference (LISA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- LISA is coming to Boston, December 4-9, 2011. With the addition of new speciality presentations and training, the breadth and quality of this year's tutorials, refereed papers, invited talks, and participants is unparalleled. 2011 LISA Conference highlights include: * The technical program with must-see invited talks such as: - The DevOps Transformation - The Operational Impact of Continuous Deployment - IBM's Jeopardy!-winning Watson Supercomputer * Practice and Experience presentations sharing real-life experiences on topics ranging from configuration management to security. * Over 40 tutorials taught by top instructors including: - Tobi Oetiker on RRDtool - Tom Limoncelli on Time Management for SysAdmins - Ted Ts'o on Data Recovery - Nan Lui on Puppet - Mark Burgess on Cfengine * "Guru Is In" sessions: get answers to your toughest questions. * The Vendor Exhibition highlighting new products and services and a look at who is hiring. * LISA's famed "hallway track" offers ample opportunity to meet and mingle with colleagues and industry leaders during breaks, BoFs, and other social activities. ----------------------------------------------------------- WHAT: LISA '11: 25th Large Installation System Administration Conference WHEN: December 4-9, 2011 WHERE: Boston, Massachusetts, USA Sheraton Boston Hotel WHO: System administrators, network administrators, DevOps, CIOs, CTOs, researchers, tool providers, support and help desk personnel, etc. WHY: Get the practical information you need to succeed. HOW: http://www.usenix.org/lisa11/progm Massive Discounts for Early Registration -- REGISTER NOW! ---------------------------------------------------------------- PS: Help us promote! -- Banners and buttons: http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa11/promote.html -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=283935088299936 -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/LISAConference #lisa11

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Re: [Wlug] Linux Installfest
by Aljerin Butler,Jr. 10 Nov '11

10 Nov '11

I would be interested in joining you Al Butler Custom Desktop Solutions >________________________________ >From: "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:00 PM >Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 97, Issue 2 > >----- Forwarded Message ----- > >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Today's Topics: > > 1. WPI - Linux Installfest (Henrique) > 2. Reminder: Change of Date: WLUG Meeting Thursday 11/10 7PM > (Chuck Anderson) > >Hello, > > >The WPI ACM group is hosting a InstallFest event, in which students interested in learning linux come around to try a distribution, and we are looking for speakers/more experience people to join. > > >If you are interested in joining, send me a message. The event is on Nov 29th, 2011 in WPI at Kaven Hall, room 202, (I will send another reminder with directions when the day before, and put some signs around). > > >What: Linux InstallFest >Where: WPI, Kaven Hall, Room 202 >When: Nov 29, 2011 > > >Also, I will be unable to attend the meeting on Thursday since I will be presenting at Spark Party. (And turning on the big tesla coils, but no playing music with it yet.) WLUG is welcome to join once the meeting is over. Spark Party is from 6pm to 10pm on AK116. > > >Thanks, >Henrique "nican" Polido.Hey guys, don't forget the meeting is not tonight, but TOMORROW night. > >Chuck > >On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 10:34:47AM -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I'm moving the meeting this month to this THURSDAY, November 10 at >> 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is >> in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the >> hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. >> >> [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf >> >> Lots of exciting things to talk about! Fedora 16 will be released >> tomorrow! I'll have some RAFFLE items! >> >> After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. >> >> Chuck >> President, Worcester Linux Users' Group > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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Announce: Change of Date: WLUG Meeting Thursday 11/10 7PM
by Chuck Anderson 09 Nov '11

09 Nov '11

Hi folks, I'm moving the meeting this month to this THURSDAY, November 10 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf Lots of exciting things to talk about! Fedora 16 will be released tomorrow! I'll have some RAFFLE items! After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

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WPI - Linux Installfest
by Henrique 09 Nov '11

09 Nov '11

Hello, The WPI ACM group is hosting a InstallFest event, in which students interested in learning linux come around to try a distribution, and we are looking for speakers/more experience people to join. If you are interested in joining, send me a message. The event is on Nov 29th, 2011 in WPI at Kaven Hall, room 202, (I will send another reminder with directions when the day before, and put some signs around). What: Linux InstallFest Where: WPI, Kaven Hall, Room 202 When: Nov 29, 2011 Also, I will be unable to attend the meeting on Thursday since I will be presenting at Spark Party. (And turning on the big tesla coils, but no playing music with it yet.) WLUG is welcome to join once the meeting is over. Spark Party is from 6pm to 10pm on AK116. Thanks, Henrique "nican" Polido.

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Question about dpkg
by Randall Mason 27 Oct '11

27 Oct '11

Sometimes it only compiles for the currently running kernel. Are you running the old one outside of the chroot jail? When you are in the chroot jail, and run uname -a, what do you get? Randall Mason randall(a)mason.ch On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:28 AM, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net>wrote: > works great for my needs (older computers and software insisting upon >

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Question about dpkg
by Andy Stewart 26 Oct '11

26 Oct '11

HI guys, I have a bunch of files in a chroot jail which are used to create my remastered Ubuntu CD with ham radio applications. I installed oss-linux from its .deb package downloaded directly from opensound.com. I did this because OSS worked with this package but not the packages in the Ubuntu repository. I have removed alsa, pulse audio, and any other non-OSS sound software I could find. The result works great for my needs (older computers and software insisting upon access to /dev/dsp). Now, here's the interesting issue. In that chroot jail, I upgraded the kernel from 2.6.38-11 to 2.6.38-12 via the Ubuntu repositories. Doing this somehow wiped out my installation of oss-linux-<ver>.deb, so I attempted to reinstall it via "dpkg -i oss-linux-<ver>.deb". The error that I received indicated that it wanted to see the kernel sources for 2.6.38-11 (the old kernel). I can't get it to look at the new kernel sources 2.6.38-12. There some crufty file laying around somewhere and I can't find it. I even tried "dpkg -r" (to remove it), and "dpkg --purge", both to no avail. Does anybody have any idea where I should look? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?
by joel d 24 Oct '11

24 Oct '11

Hi, I am re-working our TV to HDTV currently and trying to decide on a DVR. Currently I use Charter's DVR and not impressed with their DVR layout/features. Currently I am looking at either the DirectTV whole house DVR option or building a Myth DVR box(s). Not sure I want to bite off the Myth though due to needing 2 machines, tuner card, and chunks of my time (vs turnkey for an "appliance"). I have read the docs at MythTV website but am asking current Myth users: 1) Others are running for Myth hardware (front and back end specs) 2) Any estimates on install startup hours and monthly maintenance hours. 3) Any tips for a quick & smooth Myth install in late 2011 My current plans include a video source of HD via satellite from Dish or DirectTV and am leaning towards a Samsung 55" LCD/LED set. I got the impression around three years ago that Myth was a "techie time intensive" thing to setup and run. I could be all wet on that impression or it may have changed. Thank you, Joel

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Thanks everybody, Fedora it shall be
by Ken Jones 14 Oct '11

14 Oct '11

Originally I worked with SUNsparc work stations using Aurora. About 2003 I added Fedora Red Hat to a dual booted Windows machine. My two SUN's got reduced to one virtue of hardware issues. Then I turned it off. The Red Hat part of my big disk became sick in 2005. I've been Windows XP 2004 Professional ever since. Recently I rebuilt a Fedora machine and am appalled at how much I have forgotten.. Sigh...... Thanks, Ken

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New computer - dual boot - question
by Ken Jones 12 Oct '11

12 Oct '11

WLUGers, I have purchased a new DELL desktop. I want to refamiliarize myself with X. I intend to dual boot the machine. Would my best selection for Linux be Fedora 16 (or whatever they are up to now)? If not, which do you suggest? Ken Jones

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wlug/MeeGo tonite wed oct12
by Doug Mildram 12 Oct '11

12 Oct '11

doug> all confirmed and the oct5 quote below still accurate!...I'll be hosting: cra> ..WLUG meeting is Wednesday, October 12 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf This month, Andy Stewart will be giving a talk & demo of MeeGo, a Linux distribution designed for Netbooks, Tablets, and other smaller devices. After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. ---- doug> bring $1,$5's! for cash pizza/drinks..usually ~$6.

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Announce: WLUG Meeting Wednesday 10/12 7PM: MeeGo
by Chuck Anderson 05 Oct '11

05 Oct '11

Hi folks, Our next WLUG meeting is Wednesday, October 12 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf This month, Andy Stewart will be giving a talk & demo of MeeGo, a Linux distribution designed for Netbooks, Tablets, and other smaller devices. After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it to the October meeting. Doug Mildram has agreed to run the meeting for us this month--thanks Doug! Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

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2nd hard drive problem
by Ken Jones 19 Sep '11

19 Sep '11

Thank you, Chuck. Lot's more information here. Suggestions? [root@pacman mnt]# dmesg | grep hdb ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA hdb: WDC WD1600AAJB-00J3A0, ATA DISK drive hdb: max request size: 512KiB hdb: 312581808 sectors (160041 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=19457/255/63, UDMA(66) hdb: cache flushes supported hdb: hdb1 hdb2 EXT3 FS on hdb1, internal journal SELinux: initialized (dev hdb1, type ext3), uses xattr EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_update_dynamic_rev: updating to rev 1 because of new feature flag, running e2fsck is recommended EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_new_inode: reserved inode or inode > inodes count - block_group = 0, inode=1 Aborting journal on device hdb2. EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_new_inode: IO failure EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_create: IO failure EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted journal EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_clear_journal_err: Filesystem error recorded from previous mount: IO failure EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_clear_journal_err: Marking fs in need of filesystem check. EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_new_inode: reserved inode or inode > inodes count - block_group = 0, inode=2 Aborting journal on device hdb2. EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_new_inode: IO failure EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_create: IO failure EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted journal [root@pacman mnt]#

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More on my 2nd hard drive problem
by Ken Jones 19 Sep '11

19 Sep '11

The problem with your attempts to help may be in that my Fedora is soooo old. It is Fedora 4. This second disk has/had? Fedora 6, but it never worked correctly. Here is the result of grep'ng all of /var/log/dmesg [root@pacman graphics]# more /var/log/dmesg | grep hdb ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA hdb: WDC WD1600AAJB-00J3A0, ATA DISK drive hdb: max request size: 512KiB hdb: 312581808 sectors (160041 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=19457/255/63, UDMA(66) hdb: cache flushes supported hdb: hdb1 hdb2 EXT3 FS on hdb1, internal journal SELinux: initialized (dev hdb1, type ext3), uses xattr [root@pacman graphics]# I do not understand what the above is saying. ---------------------- /var/log/messages has no references to hdb [root@pacman graphics]# ls -l /var/log/messages -rw------- 1 root root 16410 Sep 18 16:13 /var/log/messages [root@pacman graphics]# more /var/log/messages | grep hdb [root@pacman graphics]# ---------------------- smartonttools does not install. [root@pacman graphics]# yum install smartmontools Setting up Install Process Setting up repositories Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: updates-released Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: updates-released [root@pacman graphics]# ---------------------- I tried... [root@pacman graphics]# vgchange -a y 2 logical volume(s) in volume group "VolGroup00" now active ---------------------- I do not want SELinux, It is just there. I'll try to eliminate it. Ken

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Problem with second hard drive.
by Ken Jones 17 Sep '11

17 Sep '11

Here's what mount has to say: [root@pacman kjones]# mount -l -t ext3 /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 on / type ext3 (rw) /dev/hdb1 on /boot type ext3 (rw) [/boot] /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/HDB1 type ext3 (rw) [/boot] /dev/hdb2 on /mnt/HDB2 type ext3 (rw) <==== [root@pacman kjones]# --------------------------------- Here's what is in dmesg. [root@pacman graphics]# ls -l /var/log/dmesg -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11691 Sep 15 22:26 /var/log/dmesg [root@pacman graphics]# tail /var/log/dmesg md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. EXT3 FS on dm-0, internal journal kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on hdb1, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. SELinux: initialized (dev hdb1, type ext3), uses xattr SELinux: initialized (dev tmpfs, type tmpfs), uses transition SIDs Adding 524280k swap on /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:524280k SELinux: initialized (dev binfmt_misc, type binfmt_misc), uses genfs_contexts [root@pacman graphics]# ----------------------- I have no idea what dmesg is talking about. The data seems to match the 'mount' statement and yesterday's date, Sept 15th. Thanks everyone!! Ken

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Reminder: WLUG Meeting Tonight 7PM: IPv6
by Chuck Anderson 17 Sep '11

17 Sep '11

Sorry for the late reminder. Please join us tonight for a talk about IPv6! On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 08:48:46AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Hi folks, > Our next WLUG meeting is Wednesday, September 14 at 7:00 PM at the WPI > campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall > (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of > the dining hall entrance. > > [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf > > This month, I'll be giving a talk on Internet Protocol Version 6, > including basics of how it works, how to configure it on various > systems, and various issues & benefits to using IPv6. > > After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. > > See you all there, > Chuck > President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

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Problems getting a second hard drive fully functional.
by Ken Jones 17 Sep '11

17 Sep '11

I have added a 160G hbd to my system. [root@pacman mnt]# fdisk /dev/hdb Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/hdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/hdb2 14 19457 156183930 83 Linux --------------------- As /dev/hdb2 it has 777 privileges. [root@pacman dev]# ls -la /dev/hdb2 brwxrwxrwx 1 root disk 3, 66 Sep 15 18:26 /dev/hdb2 <=== ------------------ Mounted as /mnt/HDB2 it also shows 777 privileges. [root@pacman mnt]# ls -l total 146 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 30 22:04 150G drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 21 2006 cdrom drwxrwxr-x 2 kjones kjones 4096 May 23 2006 fitch01 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 4 22:46 HDB drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 1024 Aug 26 23:25 HDB1 drwxrwxrwx 3 root root 4096 Sep 15 21:25 HDB2 <=== ------------------ But I can not make a ordinary directory on it. What am I not doing? [root@pacman mnt]# ls -la /mnt/HDB2 total 60 drwxrwxrwx 3 root root 4096 Sep 15 21:25 . drwxrwxrwx 22 root root 4096 Sep 7 22:37 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 49152 Sep 15 21:25 lost+found [root@pacman mnt]# mkdir -m 777 /mnt/HDB2/PICTURES mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/HDB2/PICTURES': Read-only file system [root@pacman mnt]#

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Myth Box Resources and HD DVR Info?
by joel d 16 Sep '11

16 Sep '11

Thanks to all for the ideas and comments. Not sure I will be happy spending time on a custom DVR and not sure I will be happy with a canned solution. I now have food for thought, Joel

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Announce: WLUG Meeting 9/14 7PM: IPv6
by Chuck Anderson 09 Sep '11

09 Sep '11

Hi folks, Our next WLUG meeting is Wednesday, September 14 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf This month, I'll be giving a talk on Internet Protocol Version 6, including basics of how it works, how to configure it on various systems, and various issues & benefits to using IPv6. After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. See you all there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

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Drive cage recommendations?
by John Stoffel 07 Sep '11

07 Sep '11

Guys, I'm looking to add one or more of those 2x5.25" bay to 3x3.5" disk cages to my main file server, which is a CoolerMaster Centurion 534 case, which has tabs in between each 5.25" bay to help hold things in place. I thought about the 3x5.25 -> 4/5x3.5" expanders, but since I have four free 5.25" slots, it makes more sense to use a pair of 2x5.25"->3x3.5" cages. Plus most of the larger expanders won't work with tabs in the case. Part of my criteria is: cost, quiet cooling fan, durability of sleds, SATA III support, abitily to replace the cooling fan if it's too loud. So here's my top four choices. The IcyDock is the most expensive by far. Not sure I'd go for it... sorta leaning towards the iStarUSA models. The Norco has no reviews on newegg, so I'm leary of it. iStarUSA BPN-DE230SS-BLACK 2 x 5.25" to 3 x 3.5" SAS/SATA Trayless Hot-Swap Cage - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816215240 iStarUSA BPU-230SATA-BPL 2x5.25" to 3x3.5" SAS/SATA 6.0 Gb/s Hot-Swap Cage - Lockable http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121912 NORCO SS-300 3 Bay 3.5" SATA/SAS Hot Swap Rack Module http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816133050 ICY DOCK MB453IPF-B 3 in 2 3.5' SATA I & II Hot-Swap Internal Backplane Raid Cage Module http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994052 And a fall back model which should work just fine in my case, and which is really cheap, but takes up three 5.25" bays to hold 4 drives and isn't hot swappable... COOLER MASTER STB-3T4-E3-GP 4-in-3 Device Module Hardisk Cage http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817993002 Thanks, John

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I got Fedora Core 4 working fine.....
by Ken Jones 31 Aug '11

31 Aug '11

Thanks for listening. Thanks for the sympathy. I had Fedora Core 4 on a machine with a powerless power supply. I added that 30G hard drive to the 150G on this machine and booted from it. Low and Behold. CUPS works. SAMBA works. Will wonders never cease... I even get to choose between GNOME and KDE. Ken

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Re: [Wlug] Fedora 6 problems with CUPS
by Aljerin Butler,Jr. 30 Aug '11

30 Aug '11

Hello, Perhaps you might want to check out my website here. Good luck, Al Butler >________________________________ >From: "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:00 PM >Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 94, Issue 13 > > > >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Fedora 6 problems with CUPS (Ken Jones) > 2. Re: Fedora 6 problems with CUPS (Randall Mason) >Evidently FEDORA CORE 6 CUPS predates my BROTHER HL-5340D black and >white laser printer. Even though it does not include this BROTHER model >in its list, CUPS claims it sees the printer and that it turned the >printer on. The printer fails the test page. All my documentation is >out of date. SAMBA does not work. So much for my LINUX Antique Road >Show. I'm going to do a bit of computer hardware upgrading.. > > > >Can you try just installing it with the PPD file: >http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.… >When you select the printer, instead of looking for the printer in the list, select that you have a ppd and select the ppd that you can download from the above site for your printer. I think you have a VERY Linux compatible printer. There are also some command line instructions that would make the printer show up in the list of available printers if you click on installation instructions for ppd. > >Randall Mason >randall(a)mason.ch > > > >On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)employees.org> wrote: > >Evidently FEDORA CORE 6 CUPS predates my BROTHER HL-5340D black and >>white laser printer. Even though it does not include this BROTHER model >>in its list, CUPS claims it sees the printer and that it turned the >>printer on. The printer fails the test page. All my documentation is >>out of date. SAMBA does not work. So much for my LINUX Antique Road >>Show. I'm going to do a bit of computer hardware upgrading.. >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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Fedora 6 problems with CUPS
by Ken Jones 30 Aug '11

30 Aug '11

Evidently FEDORA CORE 6 CUPS predates my BROTHER HL-5340D black and white laser printer. Even though it does not include this BROTHER model in its list, CUPS claims it sees the printer and that it turned the printer on. The printer fails the test page. All my documentation is out of date. SAMBA does not work. So much for my LINUX Antique Road Show. I'm going to do a bit of computer hardware upgrading..

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Re: [Wlug] Either legitimately confused or early onset...
by Randall Mason 29 Aug '11

29 Aug '11

You actually don't want samba, that would help you serve printers. You want CUPS. Cups helpsyou serve and use printers. Rememberthe URL I sent you that started with archive? Have you tried that as a repo? Something like: baseurl= http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/6/i386/os/ or baseurl= http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/… Also, give some better background with questions you ask, it will help people help you. -Randall On Aug 29, 2011 5:59 AM, "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)employees.org> wrote: > I've got Fedora Core 6 Evolution working so I can cut and paste. > I tried to use the "retrieve update information" tool. I think > everything is WAY out of date. The update tool said. > "Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: extras" > > I can't find one either. I checked the fedora-core.repo file: > > $ more fedora-core.repo > [core] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch > #baseurl= http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$ba > search/os/ > > I went there and got. > > The requested URL no longer exists.... > URL /pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$bahttp:// download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os/w… not found on this server. > > All I want is SAMBA to work so I can interact with the my WINDOWS > machines - particularly the one with the BROTHER printer attached. > > Ken > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Either legitimately confused or early onset...
by Ken Jones 28 Aug '11

28 Aug '11

I've got Fedora Core 6 Evolution working so I can cut and paste. I tried to use the "retrieve update information" tool. I think everything is WAY out of date. The update tool said. "Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: extras" I can't find one either. I checked the fedora-core.repo file: $ more fedora-core.repo [core] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch #baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$ba search/os/ I went there and got. The requested URL no longer exists.... URL /pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$bahttp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os/ was not found on this server. All I want is SAMBA to work so I can interact with the my WINDOWS machines - particularly the one with the BROTHER printer attached. Ken

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 94, Issue 11
by David Hardy 28 Aug '11

28 Aug '11

*If that is an older machine with that little RAM, it will probably be more expensive to jack it up than it would be for a newer machine. I tried to go that route this past year and the cost of jacking up RAM on an older box was just prohibitive.* * * *I just got a Lenovo IdeaPad that came with 1GB of RAM and adding another gig is twelve bucks. 250GB hard drive and it had Windows 7 "Starter Edition" on it which I didn't even allow to boot up and immediately put Fedora 15 on that puppy. Sweet. With LXDE. * On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Either legitimately confused or early onset.... (Ken Jones) > 2. Re: Either legitimately confused or early onset.... > (John Stoffel) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:23:31 -0400 > From: "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)ziplink.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Either legitimately confused or early onset.... > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <9CF3FF0779D44C838EF50DCF1E28F2F3@kjonespc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have successfully installed Fedora 6 Core. I included 'programming' > services. It said that it would install SAMBA. It did not. System > Services mentions the need for xinetd. 'Locate' finds 'xinetd' but it does > not seem to run. smbd and nmbd are nowhere to be found. Sigh..... > > My machine only has 256M ram memory. The higher numbered FEDORA packages > ask for more ram. I have a 'good' and never before used set of Fedora 6 > .iso CD-ROMs. > > Red Hat and Fedora have gone their separate ways. > > I just found > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Core/6/html/Installation_Guide/i… > . > > Looks promising. Little did I know how much has changed..... Constructive > suggestions would be appreciated. Maybe I should jump to CORE 13 or > so...... > > Ken Jones (the elder) > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20110827/d5d5269d/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:45:58 -0400 > From: "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Either legitimately confused or early onset.... > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <20057.40406.447557.594576(a)quad.stoffel.home> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Ken> I have successfully installed Fedora 6 Core. I included > Ken> 'programming' services. It said that it would install SAMBA. > Ken> It did not. System Services mentions the need for xinetd. > Ken> 'Locate' finds 'xinetd' but it does not seem to run. smbd and > Ken> nmbd are nowhere to be found. Sigh..... My machine only has > Ken> 256M ram memory. The higher numbered FEDORA packages ask for > Ken> more ram. I have a 'good' and never before used set of Fedora 6 > Ken> .iso CD-ROMs. > > It's time to just spring for more memory. Seriously, it's just not > that expensive. I just upgraded my kids Athlon (he's only 9) from > 768Mb (3 x 256mb) to 2.25 Gb with a pair of 1gb dimms for $23.00 > shipped. Cheap! > > Heck, I'd *give* you my two old 256Mb DDR 333 Mhz DIMMS if they'll > work for you. I certainly won't be using them again. > > Ken> Red Hat and Fedora have gone their separate ways. > > In what way do you mean? I don't understand what you're trying to say > here. > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 94, Issue 11 > ************************************ >

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Either legitimately confused or early onset....
by Ken Jones 28 Aug '11

28 Aug '11

I have successfully installed Fedora 6 Core. I included 'programming' services. It said that it would install SAMBA. It did not. System Services mentions the need for xinetd. 'Locate' finds 'xinetd' but it does not seem to run. smbd and nmbd are nowhere to be found. Sigh..... My machine only has 256M ram memory. The higher numbered FEDORA packages ask for more ram. I have a 'good' and never before used set of Fedora 6 .iso CD-ROMs. Red Hat and Fedora have gone their separate ways. I just found http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Core/6/html/Installation_Guide/i…. Looks promising. Little did I know how much has changed..... Constructive suggestions would be appreciated. Maybe I should jump to CORE 13 or so...... Ken Jones (the elder)

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Re: [Wlug] Fedora 15 and Burning CD
by Kevin Paetzold 25 Aug '11

25 Aug '11

I have successfully burned CD's and DVDs on fedora 15 without any problems.

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Fedora 15 and Burning CD
by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com 25 Aug '11

25 Aug '11

I want to burn a copy of fedora 15 32-bit on a CD but my installed fedora 15 64-bit isn't letting me. When I put in a blank CD it tells me it has 137.8 MB free and won't let me select that as a burn destination. It shouldn't be 137.8 MB free as a blank CD has more space. To get it working I decided to try burning to a DVD. Space seems correct there but again it doesn't allow burning.

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SAMBA on Fedora 6??
by Ken Jones 25 Aug '11

25 Aug '11

Due to a series of incidents too complex to detail here, I have just rebuilt a desktop PC with Fedora 6. All seems fine except it does not contain SAMBA - at least I can not find the SAMBA executable on the 5 disc .iso CD set. It has been at least five years. I do not remember it being difficult back then..... I have gone to various places on the WEB that claim to have appropriate SAMBA versions only to discover they have been taken down. I tried the SAMBA in my FEDORA Linux 3 Bible DVD. (Many dependencies missing....) I tried the SAMBA in my SAMBA Black Book CD. I got no where. It's been soooo long. I like Fedora. Must I now go to Ubuntu? Ken Jones

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Robotics and linux
by Ken Jones 24 Aug '11

24 Aug '11

Thank you, Kevin, As you can see from my video I have built a state-machine-only robot out of a radio controlled model level car and an Arduino Nano programmed in ArduinoC_0021. The idea has been to interest middle school teachers and students in 'How things work' in 2011. Education must be relevant. My cars can race each other around a room. Speed, competition and the 'real world' makes relevance. Modify the code and win the race. My project has been going on for over a year. Recently it has been struggling. After watching a video of the 2012 Lexus parallel parking itself and realizing that it is doing some mapping, I thought I would investigate 'real' robotic code. ROS was suggested, but it does not seem the right fit. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ken Jones

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ROS Robot Operating System
by Kevin Harrington NR 24 Aug '11

24 Aug '11

A much easier to use alternative to ROS would be our platform, the DyIO and the Bowler Communication Sysrtem. We use a platform independent communication platform to turn any computer into a robot. WPI is now using these controllers as the basis for all the intro and advanced robotics engineering classes. You would write code in Java (Standard Edition), execute the application of any OS, and communicate to the DyIO for all your I/O needs. We have a ton or tutorials and HowTo's for accessing the different capabilities of the DyIO. If there was some interest i could run a seminar about making robots with Linux... -- Kevin Harrington Neuron Robotics President and Founder

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Prin Software Embedded Engineer - Linux perm/direct
by John Spencer 16 Aug '11

16 Aug '11

Our client has a need for a Prin Software Embedded Linux Engineer. Must be LOCAL (position is northwest suburb of Boston) and must have strong background working with embedded Linux. Must be US Citizen or Permanent Resident Technical Skills include: - Extensive experience designing and implementing embedded software systems from the ground up. - Strong experience with Linux - kernel, builds, patches, etc. -Expert knowledge of C required. - Ideally this candidate will have experience to lead/implement code utilizing a custom kernel - Must have knowledge of Linux for embedded systems working with bootloaders, filesystems on a flash memory system, build a root file systems, coordinate and distribute code onto multiple microcontrollers, etc. - Expert at integrating software with electronics, including writing device drivers and debugging hardware/software, using lab equipment Please reply with a copy of your resume and any questions. Your resume will never be sent anywhere without your prior approval. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com GET CONNECTED! All information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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ROS Robot Operating System
by Ken Jones 16 Aug '11

16 Aug '11

I have designed and built a robotic 1/10 scale radio control car (See link below). I added an Arduino Nano to a HPI Sprint. I have been using Windows based Arduino C code. This package is too limiting. I am considering getting into http://www.ros.org/wiki which is LINUX based. "ROS (Robot Operating System) provides libraries and tools to help software developers create robot applications. It provides hardware abstraction, device drivers, libraries, visualizers, message-passing, package management, and more." Are any of you WLUG members ROS-ites? My Linux skills have degraded due to lack of use (and old age). Here's a pointer to a youtube showing my robocar being a robot and what it is built of. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-rgkt8WDXQ Ken Jones Fitchburg

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG BBQ -- Nice to see you all!
by E Johnson 11 Aug '11

11 Aug '11

Thanks for coming, & for making the WLUG BBQ a success! We got lucky on the weather... one T-storm & then clear! Everyone was wonderful! & Thanks for helping with the aftermath. What a great group! We enjoyed it. Best regards to all, Liz J

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG BBQ - UPDATE 5:35 pm
by Gregory Avedissian 10 Aug '11

10 Aug '11

According to the radar, the storm will only last about 20 minutes, and then we'll have clear skies. Food is here, three of us are here so far. Party is ON. See you soon.

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG BBQ - UPDATE 6:00 pm (almost)
by Gregory Avedissian 10 Aug '11

10 Aug '11

Rain stopped. Sun is peeking through the clouds.

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WLUG BBQ
by E Johnson 09 Aug '11

09 Aug '11

Hi everyone, The annual WLUG BBQ is tomorrow! Time & location & contact info has already been posted on the list. We have salad, cheese & crackers, plus a few extra goodies, & the condiments. Dogs, burgers & buns are allegedly arriving. So we expect the event to be enjoyable. A few news items & reminders: 1. We have been fairly bug-free this year, which still seems to be the case. But it is raining now, so, we'll know when we now. 2. Our Driveway is for deliveries (tables/chairs, coolers, etc., but not for Event Parking. There should be adequate parking on Hudson St. If you have a special Parking need, please let me know: iris.gates(a)gmail.com 3. We do not have an icemaker. Whoever is bringing the non-BYOB drinks (the soda), please bring cooler plus ice. If you BYOB, please provide your own cooling technique (cooler & ice) 4. My apt. is on the 3rd floor, so note that the Facilities are a few steps up. 5. Someone has promised to bring a table. That would be greatly useful. Perhaps a second table, even a small card table, would be helpful. 6. BYO lawn chair. 7. Wireless will be on & accessible, but I have not tested it in backyard. 8. If it rains or hails or otherwise becomes inclement, we can adjourn to my apt. Tall people may need a hardhat, but we can cram in. 9. Arts Worcester event is going on in Elm Park lately; there are a few things to see, should anyone wish to take a short walk. Elm Park is only a few steps away. 10. Sign on light pole out front will say WLUG. A Penguin is allegedly arriving, but no clue where he will be located. ## Who is bringing plates, cups, forks & spoons? Could you please check in here before Noon Wed. (my final shopping trip)? TY. See you tomorrow! Liz J

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Solved: X apps no longer work with sudo after upgrade to Squeeze
by Theodore Ruegsegger 09 Aug '11

09 Aug '11

I could have guessed I'd find the answer just after posting, but perhaps this will make it easier for the next googler. I had written: > Summary: After upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze, I can no longer execute > X apps using sudo in an ssh session. Why not, and how can I restore > this ability? A careful reading of the manpage for the /etc/sudoers file (man 5 sudoers) yields this insight, under EXAMPLES: # Run X applications through sudo; HOME is used to find the # .Xauthority file. Note that other programs use HOME to find # configuration files and this may lead to privilege escalation! Defaults env_keep += "DISPLAY HOME" It looks like the newer version of sudo no longer preserves $HOME by default (although, the above notwithstanding, it does keep $DISPLAY). Adding the following line to my /etc/sudoers restored my ability to run X apps via sudo: Defaults env_keep += "HOME" Hope someone else finds this helpful. Ted Ruegsegger

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Re: [Wlug] Reminder: WLUG BBQ: Wednesday, August 10, 6pm
by Chuck Anderson 07 Aug '11

07 Aug '11

I have the giant Tux, originally made by Doug Waud. In-Reply-To: <CABmZTj1nKqQebf74eQjoLPGC5ZctSOkoAco1YrvzSJTNi-miZw(a)mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 08:01:45PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > All of the above is correct, except I do not have a Tux Penguin. > A sign affixed to the light pole out front will say 'WLUG' & I will attempt > to draw an image of a Tux-like penguin on it. > > Everyone is welcome. See you then. > Liz J > > On 5 August 2011 22:57, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > > Hi gang, > > > > The WLUG BBQ is coming up next week, Wednesday, August 10, starting at > > 6pm. Thanks to those who volunteered to bring items, and thanks to > > our hostess Liz Johnson. We'll have hot dogs, burgers, bratwurst, all > > the fixings, some chips/snacks, salad and soda. The grill will be > > fired up if anyone has something else they'd like to grill, and > > desserts would be welcome as well. There will be a cooler or two and > > some ice for BYOB. People should bring a lawn chair for themselves if > > they wish to sit down. Based on past BBQ's, I'm expecting about 15-20 > > people, perhaps more. > > > > The address: > > > > 34 Hudson St, Worcester, MA (It is a green house, one house south of > > Elm St. Elm St runs east/west along Elm Park and Hudson St is one > > block east of Park Ave.) > > > > Look for a "WLUG" sign on the city light pole, as well as a big Tux > > Penguin. If you get lost you can call Liz at 508-471-4407. > > > > Hope to see you there! > > Chuck > > WLUG President

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Reminder: WLUG BBQ: Wednesday, August 10, 6pm
by Chuck Anderson 07 Aug '11

07 Aug '11

Hi gang, The WLUG BBQ is coming up next week, Wednesday, August 10, starting at 6pm. Thanks to those who volunteered to bring items, and thanks to our hostess Liz Johnson. We'll have hot dogs, burgers, bratwurst, all the fixings, some chips/snacks, salad and soda. The grill will be fired up if anyone has something else they'd like to grill, and desserts would be welcome as well. There will be a cooler or two and some ice for BYOB. People should bring a lawn chair for themselves if they wish to sit down. Based on past BBQ's, I'm expecting about 15-20 people, perhaps more. The address: 34 Hudson St, Worcester, MA (It is a green house, one house south of Elm St. Elm St runs east/west along Elm Park and Hudson St is one block east of Park Ave.) Look for a "WLUG" sign on the city light pole, as well as a big Tux Penguin. If you get lost you can call Liz at 508-471-4407. Hope to see you there! Chuck WLUG President

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X apps no longer work with sudo after upgrade to Squeeze
by Theodore Ruegsegger 06 Aug '11

06 Aug '11

Summary: After upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze, I can no longer execute X apps using sudo in an ssh session. Why not, and how can I restore this ability? Details: I just got around to upgrading [1] a server to from Debian Lenny to Debian Squeeze. Normally I access it via ssh with X forwarding so that I can display any X apps on my workstation [2]. I have root logins disabled and use sudo instead when I wish to run an app as root. Under Lenny, I could execute X apps under sudo and they would display just fine, for example: sudo xless some-file [prompts for my password] [xless opens in a window on my workstation] Under Squeeze, the attempt fails with an error message: sudo xless some-file [prompts for my password] X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0 Googling "X forwarding sudo" gives me lots of explanations about .Xauthority and cookies but nothing that explains why I should now need to manage this myself when I didn't need to before. Can anyone set me straight? Ted Ruegsegger __________________________ Notes: [1] More precisely, I didn't dist-upgrade it (that's another story) but installed Squeeze from scratch, preserving the /home partition and repeating my original configuration steps. [2] This server doesn't run a GUI desktop.

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WLUG BBQ
by Chuck Anderson 21 Jul '11

21 Jul '11

We need some volunteers to help make this BBQ a success. Who can help by picking up the following items and bringing them to the BBQ? WLUG will reimburse for food & supplies (please save receipts). Please email me back if you can help out with anything. 0. Burgers, Hot Dogs, Buns 1. Cheese, Condiments 2. Soda, Ice 3. Utensils, Plates, Napkins 4. Chips/dip/snacks Also, if anyone has the following items we could use, that would be helpful: 5. A couple tables 6. Lawn chairs (I have some coolers I can bring) Beyond that, people can bring whatever BYOB, desserts, or other items they wish. On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:06:50PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > Aug 10 will do. > > Bring lawn chairs & etc. Need extra table or 2. > I will make sure there is propane for the grill. Refrig can hold some stuff, > but bring coolers for the most critical items. > Will make sure grass is mowed & etc. Will make potato salad & get tomatoes > from Farm Market. > > 34 Hudson St Worcester (top floor) > It's not beautiful, but it's certainly central. > > Liz J > 508-471-4407 > > On 11 July 2011 21:55, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > > Thanks for volunteering Liz! Would people like to have this on our > > regularly scheduled 2nd Wednesday of August 10, perhaps starting at > > 6pm? If not, July 27th also works for me. > > > > On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 07:17:59PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > > > We might be able to host this year. I am near WPI near Elm Park. > > > > > > We have one propane grill here now. Have backyard, would need chairs & > > > prob. table or 2 (bring yours) > > > > > > Note > I am a Tenant not Owner. owner would not mind low-key geekly > > > club. Clloers for drinks & ice & grill meats would be needed. > > > > > > I can turn on the wireless and/or throw down a long ethernet cable > > > with/without 2nd wireless router, for use during the event. > > > > > > Facilities (including B-room) in my place are small but certainly > > > usable. These are on 3rd Floor, but obviously yard is on ground level. > > > > > > We have been rather bug-free so far this season. > > > > > > Shoot for late July / early Aug if this sounds good, & commit for > > > supplies/details if you want to use this venue. I will make a nice > > > tomato salad and some other compliments to carnivoer fare. If all > > > else fails, TechPizza is onlt a phone call away. > > > > > > Liz J > > > More anchovies please

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Announce: WLUG Meeting tonight 7pm
by Chuck Anderson 13 Jul '11

13 Jul '11

Hi folks, At tonight's meeting we'll have a discussion of current events in the Linux/OSS world, Questions and Answers, etc. followed by our traditional outing @ Tech Pizza. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf See you all there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

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WLUG BBQ
by Chuck Anderson 12 Jul '11

12 Jul '11

Who wants to have a WLUG BBQ? Traditionally, we have one in July or August.

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Invitación a conectarnos en LinkedIn
by Nicolas Ardison 06 Jul '11

06 Jul '11

LinkedIn ------------ Worcester, Me gustaría añadirte a mi red profesional en LinkedIn. -Nicolas Nicolas Ardison Tecnico en Caipe Automatización Argentina Confirma que conoces a Nicolas Ardison https://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-gpsjdxoe-14/isd/3451526616/0mFq9NjV/ -- (c) 2011, LinkedIn Corporation

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Looking for a partner for a project
by Aljerin Butler,Jr. 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

Hi Jason, I would be interested in giving you a hand. I have experience with HTML, some with CSS. Haven't tried my hand at Javascript yet but have checked out a few tutorials and online learning. Have some past experience with SQL/MySQL along with Perl/CGI/DBI. It would be a great opportunity for me, as I'm seeking a transition over to web development. Here are some of the best samples of my handiwork:http://customlinux.tripod.com/ http://customlinux.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/career_center/source/sourc… Al Butler

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MP3 playback in Fedora
by Eric Martin 03 Jul '11

03 Jul '11

I'm thinking about switch over to CentOS from Gentoo at work for a few reasons, two of which are the compile time and the ability to check packages against GPG signatures. That being the case, I decided to convert my desktop to Fedora so I can get my chops up on yum and the RedHat style distros. it's going ok and I'm getting pretty good at figuring out where to find things, and I'm even looking at writing an RPM or two where I need stuff. However, I can't seem to get MP3, Mpeg1 or Mpeg2 playback working, and I can't get adobe-flash to install via the nspluginwrapper. I've googled, installed a bunch of packages that people suggested and even checked what packages I have on my Gentoo system and installed some of those but I'm stuck. I have Adobe-Flash installed as well as nspluginwrapper, but the commands I find online aren't wrapping the plugin. I installed libmpeg2 and libmpeg3 but I still can't play movies or mp3s. Any suggestions? thanks, -- Eric Martin

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Looking for a partner for a project
by Jason Couture 02 Jul '11

02 Jul '11

Would anyone at all be interested in helping build a new website? I can't share too many details, as it will be commercial, but i need someone who has experience with HTML/CSS/Javascript/PHP/AJAX/MySql and preferably experience setting up a version control system (server). Parts of this project will end up being open source (the chat server for the web site already is). If anyone knows any of this, or even if they feel they can lend a hand with part of it, It would be much appreciated. More details will be given in direct emails, provided a good faith non-disclosure agreement is acceptable. No signing anything, just an email stating you agree not to disclose the details of this project, prior to its release. This project will benefit the open source community if it is successful. Thanks in advance, Jason Couture

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Lights going dim, concerned about compouters & assoc. equip.
by E Johnson 02 Jul '11

02 Jul '11

Hi all, I think we have a bad refrigerator here, possibly problems also compounded by an inadequate elex cicsuit. Elex is owned & paid by landlord, who thinks this is "no big deal" & "happens all the time No problem." Maintence is not this building owner's favorite occupation. Person is on a tight budget just like most of the rest of the world. Proibem: Lights go dim whenever dying refrigerator comes on. This unit rins apprix 40 minutes per every hour, even on cool days with minimum opening/closing. I am concerned about longevity and function of my computers. power supplies, modem and router (I own these & they are nice). One printer already fried when Handyman shorted hot and cold elex together in the process of replacing one light swich in kitchen. Hope never to see him again, he's not a bright bulb. Is there some way to monitor the currrent on the elex line for several days and record what's going on? If so, does someone have a monitoring device that could be loaned and set up to do this? I am in Woircester near Elm Park, & am a very good cook. Have decent chairs & workspace with fast internet... could provide free beer & P1zzA or lunch if needed during setup period. Thanks mightily, Liz J

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RHEL cluster question...
by David Hardy 14 Jun '11

14 Jun '11

Greetings, fellow Linux lovers; Ran into a little situation today where we need to cycle power/reboot a bunch of nodes that are down and out, by telnet to the relevant terminal server ports and the advanced management module. This involves multiple consoles, windows, command line, GUI, the works, as follows: Subject: RHEL cluster, 4.0 through 5.3. Issue: How to find IP addresses of terminal server ports which service individual nodes which are down and out. (need to telnet to them for troubleshooting/maintenance/rebooting) And: IP address and/or hostname of advanced management module which runs on the clusters . Some clusters have a "magic decoder ring" file that gives this information; most don't. Any thoughts? Workaround so far has been via eyeballing racks of blades and doing various arithmetic problems in our heads.

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Looking for DDR 333 (PC2700) 512mb or 1gb mem
by John Stoffel 08 Jun '11

08 Jun '11

Guys, I've got an old home system for the kids. Works fine, but I've only got 768Mb of RAM in it. Anyone got any 512Mb or 1Gb DIMMS they want to sell? DDR, PC2700 is what I need. It's around $30/ea for 1Gb Dimms on newegg, which just isn't justified. It's almost more cost effective to get a new motherboard/cpu/RAM for this system instead. Thanks! John P.S. My Tivo, Series 2 has died finally, after 8+ years. I can't get my original 40Gb disk and mfstools 2.0 backup image to boot. Sigh... could be a power supply issue, but again, is it worth the money to fix or should I just get a premiere instead? --

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Linux Ham Radio CD available for download
by Andy Stewart 13 May '11

13 May '11

Hi Everybody, I have created a remastered Linux CD of Ubuntu 10.10 which contains a selection of Amateur Radio software. Several of you were kind enough to beta test this CD and offer feedback, for which I thank you. This CD has been released and is now available for download from SourceForge: http://kb1oiq-andysham.sourceforge.net/ The software selection is optimized for older x86 32-bit computers that have at least a 1GHz processor and 256MB of memory, but naturally, if you have more than that, the software will work just fine. It uses the icewm window manager, and contains a web browser, graphical file manager, text editor, and other related tools. A short(!) list of the available Amateur Radio related software: aa-analyzer.pl - used with RigExpert AA-xxx antenna analyzers cqrlog - a full featured QSO logging program fldigi - digital modes such as PSK31 flmsg - companion to fldigi, a simple forms management editor for standard message formats flrig - rig control flwkey - modem program for the K1EL Winkeyer series flwrap - companion to fldigi, file encapsulation / compression Fl Moxgen - Moxon Rectangle antenna design program gpredict - satellite tracking grig - rig control software hamlib - radio control library ibp - HF beacons pskmail - send email via PSK31 qrq - CW callsig practice qsstv - SSTV sunclock - track day/night line on Earth svxlink - Echolink client (qtel) TQSL - used with ARRL Logbook of the World TQSL Cert - used with ARRL Logbook of the World wsjt - weak signal communication wspr - weak signal communication xastir - APRS mapping xcwcp - CW code practice xdx - DX cluster TCP/IP client xlog - simpler QSO logging program xnec2c - antenna modeling software xwxapt - display APT images from weather satellites FL_Moxgen and aa-analyzer.pl were written by yours truly and released under the terms of the GNU General Public License (version 3). Please feel free to pass this along to other interested parties. Thanks, and 73, Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Announce: WLUG Meeting 5/11 7PM: Init Systems
by Chuck Anderson 11 May '11

11 May '11

Hi folks, Our next WLUG meeting is Wednesday, May 11 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf This month, I'll be giving a talk on varios Init Systems for Linux, including the traditional SysVinit and how it compares to Upstart, OpenRC, and Systemd. I'll definately have a demo of at least Systemd. See you all there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

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In a bind
by Jason Couture 25 Apr '11

25 Apr '11

I'm in bad need of money, I have the following things for sale: 17" LCD monitor - $30 (2 for sale) 15" LCD monitor w/ integrated speakers - $25 15" crt monitor - $15 SATA DVD burner - $20 IDE Cd-rw - $10 If anyone is interested in any of these, please send me an email or call me at 774-208-7385. I may have more stuff, if I find more I'll post it here.

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Reminder: WLUG Meeting Today 7PM: Scratch
by Chuck Anderson 13 Apr '11

13 Apr '11

----- Forwarded message from Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> ----- From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> To: wlug(a)wlug.org Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 00:34:58 -0400 Subject: [Wlug] Announce: WLUG Meeting 4/13 7PM: Scratch Precedence: list Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Hi folks, Our next WLUG meeting is Wednesday, April 13 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf I'm pleased to announce that we have a guest speaker this month, Andy Stewart's son Geoffrey: Geoffrey Stewart (age 13) will give a talk about his experiences using the Scratch software to create simple video games, characters, and animation. Geoffrey has been using this software as part of the video game design club which meets after school. The talk will include a live demo of the Scratch software. See you all there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group ----- End forwarded message -----

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Natick FOSS/Linux User Group
by Chuck Anderson 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

Dick and Jill Miller have started a new FOSS/Liux User Group in Natick. Here is the information about their meeting this afternoon 3-5pm (sorry for the late notice! They meet every 1st Wednesday 3pm-5pm.) You can find more information here including how to subscribe to their e-mail list: http://www.millermicro.com/FOSSUserGroupNatick.html Chuck ----- Forwarded message from Dick and Jill Miller <TheMillers(a)millermicro.com> ----- From: Dick and Jill Miller <TheMillers(a)millermicro.com> To: "(Distribution List Suppressed)" <TheMillers(a)millermicro.com> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 00:15:37 -0400 Subject: [FOSS/Linux] User Group meets 3-5PM Wednesday, April 6th in Natick Hi! We e-mailed you on Friday, but now there's more news. 3-5PM Wednesday, at the FOSS User Group at the Natick Senior Center, we will report some highlights of this past Saturday's Northeast FOSS/Linux Fest in Worcester. Also, courtesy of that event, we have several free Linux magazines for each attendee. on Wednesday! Good Stuff for beginners and experts: advanced tricks with Fotoxx, a first look at GnuCash, and an under-the-hood look at Linux. All are invited; please tell your friends. This message indicates that you are on the FOSS/Linux e-mail list at MMS. If that's a mistake, please let us know. If it's A Good Thing, consider telling others to get aboard! Note: The Natick Senior Center maintains a separate e-mail list, and does not share it with this one. If that causes redundant mailings, please bear with us. Cheers from --Dick and Jill Miller, Partners, MMS <TheMillers(a)millermicro.com> Co-Leaders, FOSS User Group at Natick Senior Center E-MAIL LISTS (opt-in/out/etc.): http://millermicro.com/newURL.html -- A. Richard & Jill A. Miller | MILLER MICROCOMPUTER SERVICES | Mailto:TheMillers@millermicro.com | 61 Lake Shore Road | Web: http://www.millermicro.com/ | Natick, MA 01760-2099, USA | Voice: 508/653-6136, 9AM-9PM -0400(EDT)| NMEA 42.299951°N,-71.365562°E | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Announce: WLUG Meeting 4/13 7PM: Scratch
by Chuck Anderson 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

Hi folks, Our next WLUG meeting is Wednesday, April 13 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf I'm pleased to announce that we have a guest speaker this month, Andy Stewart's son Geoffrey: Geoffrey Stewart (age 13) will give a talk about his experiences using the Scratch software to create simple video games, characters, and animation. Geoffrey has been using this software as part of the video game design club which meets after school. The talk will include a live demo of the Scratch software. See you all there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

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Re: [Wlug] April Topic?
by Kevin Harrington 01 Apr '11

01 Apr '11

Another idea is open source robotics. I have a lot of experience with this at this point and would love to share. One more idea would be talking about making and using custom Java JNI. have a library that's awesome but hate writing applications in C? JNI is a way of exposing these libs to Java. As an example I wrapped a v4l2 frame grabber and was able to get framerates 2-4 TIMES faster then OpenCV's frame grabber. Getting started with JNI is full of "gotchas" that keeps most developers away, which I think is a shame. ~Kevin Harrington

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Job posting: WPI is hiring a Network Engineer
by Chuck Anderson 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

If anyone is interested in applying for the open Network Engineer position at WPI, please email me at cra(a)wpi.edu Thanks, Chuck Position Title: Network Engineer Department: Computing and Communications Center Location: Morgan Hall - Network Operations Grade: Exempt - 820 Position Status: Administrative Exempt Positions Position Description: BASIC FUNCTION: Provide support to the satisfactory operation of the WPI network and facilitate its use by members of the WPI community. PRINCIPAL DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES: - Maintain and support the data network system including switches, routers, wireless access points and battery backup systems - Maintain data wiring and fiber infrastructure. - Evaluate and beta test emergent technologies and code maintenance releases. - Coordinate with Helpdesk and other departments in the troubleshooting and resolution of data network error conditions and provide end-user support for communications and connectivity issues. - Document the data network including topology, connections, and appropriate billing information. - Support physical plant renovations as they relate to the voice, data, and video CATV infrastructure. - Administer and backup of all Network Operations servers. - Program and maintain network databases, documentation, inventory, and monitoring applications. - Provide 24/7connectivity for users of the data network including adds/moves/changes and wireless connectivity. - Supervise and support the student network assistants. - Other related duties as assigned. Requirements: - Bachelor's degree in Electrical Engineering or Computer Science in order to provide the necessary understanding of communication technology and computer architecture with 4-5 years professional experience in similar or related work. - Experience with network hardware, cabling, and network management software including experience in network troubleshooting. - A thorough knowledge of Ethernet, wireless Ethernet, and TCP/IP networking. - Experience with Juniper Networks equipment preferable. - Experience with computer programming and scripting languages. - Experience with Linux systems administration. - Ability to communicate clearly with all network users.

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Re: [Wlug] Topic for April?
by Jason Couture 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

I would like to, by I do not have intimate knowledge of it. I know its an improved version of gentoos baselayout 1 RC system. Its written in c instead of scriptss, can do some parallel startups, but nowhere near anything like systemd. And I can write simple init scripts for it. I, for one, would love to hear more about systemd. On Mar 30, 2011 8:38 AM, "Chuck Anderson" <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > I can talk about SysVInit, Upstart, and Systemd. Do you want to talk > about OpenRC? We could try to fit it into one meeting. > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:22:57AM -0400, Jason Couture wrote: > > How about a discussion of init systems in general, pros and cons of each? > > (I'm an OpenRC fanboy myself.) > > On Mar 30, 2011 12:07 AM, "Gregory Avedissian" <avedis.g(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > On 03/29/2011 10:57 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > > > > >> Would people be interested in a talk on Systemd, the replacement for > > >> SysVinit and Upstart? > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/ma

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Topic for April?
by Tim Keller 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Any ideas what people would like to do for a topic for April? We'd talked about doing a distribution bake off... Does that still have any traction? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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WLUG meeting idea - Distro comparison
by joel d 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

I am setting up a new laptop and trying to decide on which distro to go with... Probably the same list of finalists as everyone else in no particular order (Red Hat / CentOS / Fedora / Ubuntu / Gentoo / others). Has WLUG done a disto comparison night meeting? I think it might be interesting. Each person bring in a laptop with their favorite mainstream distro (possibly 3 or 4). Spend 20 to 30 minutes on each, showing the major differences (installs / apps handling / etc) and why they like it. Probably not a new idea. If it's been done of late then please disregard as I cannot make as many meetings as I once could. (This is due to my personal schedule not due to lack of interest.) Joel

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Re: [Wlug] Gentoo
by joel d 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Got it. "Ward, aren't you being a little hard on the beaver?" I don't believe I shared my personal Gentoo opinion. Instead I mused about a hilarious website and Gentoo's popularity growing and fading like a wave... Approx. 4 years ago I tried Gentoo once for a few days and discovered it wasn't for me. "Hi... My name is Joel and I'm a "Distro-XYZ" user." Sounds like a support group intro to me. No axe to grind, it is just my personal preference. I prefer not to drink instant coffee also, so I merely go elsewhere for my warm, slightly burnt, caffeinated goods. As always your mileage can and will vary... Actually I was mostly amused with the odd autos makes me want to do the following to 15+ year old Honda Civic showing lots of rust: put a rear wing with a half sheet of plywood held on with drywall screws Spray the home-made wing neon yellow spray can to not match the car (don't mask the car first) remove the exhaust with a sawzall at the headers (loud with real flames) leave a pair of custom exhaust pipe tips out the rear (leaving the labling of Folgers coffee). hood scoop made with a sawzall duct tape and a Cheerios box replace all the wheels with 4 "donut" spares. drive it up and down the street with a really bad car stereo blasting "Tom's Diner". Anyone have a spent, near end-of-life donor car in their driveway? (on second thought, nevermind) Joel From: Gary Hanley <gary(a)hanley.net> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Gentoo To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Message-ID: <4D8C0929.9090808(a)hanley.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Where is Barbara Billingsley when you need her? :-) On 03/24/2011 04:27 PM, joel d wrote: > Wow. > I have never been to Gentoo is Rice before. > That guy has some issues but I missed why he was so upset ;-) > Was very entertained by the highly visually modified but still stock > underpowered autos. > Pics are a "People of Walmart" for the auto world. > > That Gentoo's install numbers are fading: > everyone that wants it is upgrading as Jamie mentioned > dying due to Ubuntu adoption/popularity from the article > developers numbers dwindling from the article > no longer the cool distro for techies or average users (we want to > be cool too) > some other reasons... > or is it the end of it's technology "wave" > > IMHO, most technology comes and goes in 1 to 8 year waves. > > A technology wave example is the Slackware disto. > Who else remembers running Slackware (back when it was rather cool)? > Not sure I even know if they still release Slack anymore (I did just > go there and yup they do). > > Three related waves which took longer admidedly were > centralized processing and dumb terminals of the simpler good old days > modern servers and intelligent desktops with processing power > back to virtual machines (and thin clients which are really akin to > fancy terminals) > > Joel

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Re: [Wlug] Gentoo
by joel d 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Wow. I have never been to Gentoo is Rice before. That guy has some issues but I missed why he was so upset ;-) Was very entertained by the highly visually modified but still stock underpowered autos. Pics are a "People of Walmart" for the auto world. That Gentoo's install numbers are fading: everyone that wants it is upgrading as Jamie mentioned dying due to Ubuntu adoption/popularity from the article developers numbers dwindling from the article no longer the cool distro for techies or average users (we want to be cool too) some other reasons... or is it the end of it's technology "wave" IMHO, most technology comes and goes in 1 to 8 year waves. A technology wave example is the Slackware disto. Who else remembers running Slackware (back when it was rather cool)? Not sure I even know if they still release Slack anymore (I did just go there and yup they do). Three related waves which took longer admidedly were centralized processing and dumb terminals of the simpler good old days modern servers and intelligent desktops with processing power back to virtual machines (and thin clients which are really akin to fancy terminals) Joel

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Re: [Wlug] Gentoo
by Jamie Guinan 24 Mar '11

24 Mar '11

On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Joshua Demallistre wrote: > I was thinking about giving Gentoo a try. It would be nice for some one in > the group could give me a hand. Another distro to consider is Arch. I haven't used it, but it appears to be similar in spirit to Gentoo. Looking at the beginner's guide, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide it contains a lot of relatively low-level configuration stuff that one would not need to know for a plug-and-play distro. So as a "learning Linux" platform, Arch does looks promising. -Jamie

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Gentoo
by Joshua Demallistre 24 Mar '11

24 Mar '11

I was thinking about giving Gentoo a try. It would be nice for some one in the group could give me a hand. Sent via Android On Mar 23, 2011 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. My Ubuntu Remix CD... (Andy Stewart) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 23:47:44 -0400 > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > Subject: [Wlug] My Ubuntu Remix CD... > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <4D896D60.2040901(a)comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > HI gang, > > I recently remixed an Ubuntu 10.10 CD for the Linux ham radio users (and > there are many!). I am not yet distributing it widely, but I would like > to get a couple of people to try it. It is a Live CD that can also be > installed to the hard drive. > > If you are interested, please download the ISO file from this location: > http://home.comcast.net/~andystewart/linux_intro/ubuntu-remix-5.iso > > My target hardware is an older computer, 256MB of memory, and 1GHz > processor, at a minimum. This started from the Ubuntu 10.10 server > edition. I added icewm and a bunch of programs for amateur radio. One > can see these programs in the "Amateur Radio" menu. > > Even if you are not an amateur radio operator, you might find the > software selection interesting. > > I am mostly concerned about the sound system, which seems to be changing > yet again(!), this time to pulseaudio. An easy program to try is xcwcp > which will simply beep morse code at you. If that works, I expect other > apps will work also. (xcwcp -x /dev/dsp should work, or invoke it from > the menu). > > Also, if you attempt to install it to a hard drive, please do it in a > computer with no valuable data or other operating systems, just in case. > > If you try it, please send me some feedback. > > Thanks! > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) > Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group > Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group > President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF) > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 89, Issue 8 > ***********************************

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Re: [Wlug] Gentoo
by Jamie Guinan 23 Mar '11

23 Mar '11

On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Eric Martin wrote: > On 03/23/11 12:19, Joshua Demallistre wrote: > > > > I was thinking about giving Gentoo a try. It would be nice for some > > one in the group could give me a hand. > > > What sort of help are you looking for? There used to be a > disproportionately large Gentoo user base in WLUG, although I don't know > how large it is anymore. I use it at home and work and I'd be glad to > help you out. For me, the great thing about Gentoo is the learning > experience; I learned a lot about GNU/Linux by doing my first Gentoo > installs, and I'm still learning. If you haven't already, grab the > install discs and peruse through the install docs. If you have a 64bit > machine, I suggest grabbing the 64bit disc. Maintaining Gentoo x64 > isn't terribly hard, and you can use memory more efficiently. Gentoo user here, too. Although I haven't done a fresh install in quite a while, I just keep updating. What I like best about Gentoo is picking and choosing which packages to include and leave out, both applications and libraries. For example, the other day I wanted to install "gtkpod", but I really don't want to have Mono or QT4 installed on my system, for various reasons. Doing a test install, I can verify that they are left out: # emerge -ptv gtkpod These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] app-pda/gtkpod-1.0.0 USE="aac flac mp3 ogg -curl" 1,856 kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/libgpod-0.8.0 USE="gtk iphone python udev -mono -static-libs" 975 kB [nomerge ] media-libs/libgpod-0.8.0 USE="gtk iphone python udev -mono -static-libs" [nomerge ] sys-apps/sg3_utils-1.30 [ebuild N ] sys-apps/rescan-scsi-bus-1.48 21 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/sg3_utils-1.30 863 kB [ebuild N ] app-pda/libimobiledevice-1.0.4 USE="python" 404 kB [ebuild N ] app-pda/usbmuxd-1.0.6 57 kB [ebuild N ] app-pda/libplist-1.3 67 kB [ebuild U ] dev-util/cmake-2.8.3-r1 [2.8.0-r2] USE="ncurses -emacs -qt4 -vim-syntax" 5,310 kB ... The USE= "-mono" and "-qt4" flags indicate that the listed packages will be built without that support. Gentoo handles that by passing the necessary options to "configure" when it builds the package, and that is IMO the main point of using a source-based distribution. If you *did* want support for mono, you could edit "/etc/make.conf" (system-wide) or "/etc/portage/package.use" (package-specific), add the "mono" flag (or remove "-mono"), and try again. For better or worse, I think gentoo kind of peaked in popularity several years ago. Related article, http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10047439-16.html?tag=mncol;title But it still meets my needs on several of my computers. And finally, yes, I am aware of "http://funroll-loops.info/", and I don't care. :) -Jamie

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My Ubuntu Remix CD...
by Andy Stewart 23 Mar '11

23 Mar '11

HI gang, I recently remixed an Ubuntu 10.10 CD for the Linux ham radio users (and there are many!). I am not yet distributing it widely, but I would like to get a couple of people to try it. It is a Live CD that can also be installed to the hard drive. If you are interested, please download the ISO file from this location: http://home.comcast.net/~andystewart/linux_intro/ubuntu-remix-5.iso My target hardware is an older computer, 256MB of memory, and 1GHz processor, at a minimum. This started from the Ubuntu 10.10 server edition. I added icewm and a bunch of programs for amateur radio. One can see these programs in the "Amateur Radio" menu. Even if you are not an amateur radio operator, you might find the software selection interesting. I am mostly concerned about the sound system, which seems to be changing yet again(!), this time to pulseaudio. An easy program to try is xcwcp which will simply beep morse code at you. If that works, I expect other apps will work also. (xcwcp -x /dev/dsp should work, or invoke it from the menu). Also, if you attempt to install it to a hard drive, please do it in a computer with no valuable data or other operating systems, just in case. If you try it, please send me some feedback. Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Northeast Linuxfest April 2, 2011
by Chuck Anderson 22 Mar '11

22 Mar '11

Come join me at the Northeast Linuxfest! Saturday, April 2, 10:30 a.m. - 3:00 p.m. FREE registration (optional $30 donation) at http://northeastlinuxfest.org/ Worcester State University Student Center 486 Chandler St. Worcester MA 01602 I've forwarded more details from the BLU list below. ----- Forwarded message from b p <bruce84(a)yahoo.com> ----- From: b p <bruce84(a)yahoo.com> To: discuss(a)blu.org Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Northeast Linuxfest April 2, 2011 Hey guys - I haven't seen this posted yet so I'm sorry if it has on another list. The Northeast Linuxfest is just around the corner, the event will be held in Worcester MA. We hope you can make it! Jonathan Nadeau of Frostbite systems and he has posted his speakers list for the Northeast Linuxfest. He's got John Maddog Hall! Now you really have no reason not to go! Here is the list of speakers below: 11am Roberto C. Sanchez "Getting Stuff Packaged for Debian." 12pm Jarod Wilson "Intro to GNU/Linux Home Theater PCs" 1pm Jon “Maddog” Hall "GNU/Linux in Education, Government and Business." 2pm Matt Lee "Why Software Should Be Free." So, now that we're two weeks away, I hope to see you all there! Hurry because attendance is filling fast! Details can be found at Northeast Linuxfest - http://northeastlinuxfest.org/ ----- Forwarded message from b p <bruce84(a)yahoo.com> ----- From: b p <bruce84(a)yahoo.com> To: Tom Metro <tmetro-blu(a)vl.com> Cc: discuss(a)blu.org Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 05:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Northeast Linuxfest April 2, 2011 Good morning all, I should have clarified some of the murkier statements made, I apologize for that. Tom, what I put up was the complete schedule of speakers and you are correct the event is FREE. The $30 is optional, this is to help cover costs for the student center space. Red Hat has graciously agreed to sponsor the event. The purpose of this event is to gather linux users for a one day event, mostly to discuss all things linux/unix and to meet other users throughout the area. This is the inaugural event, so based on attendance this year there are plans to hopefully expand the event much like SCALE or any of the other community driven events. As for who Jonathan of Frostbite systems is, his company sells computers with linux installed. He gives a percentage back to the distro that is ordered on the machines. His main focus is selling machines for the blind or visually impaired, which he himself is. He is also the podcaster for both Fedora weekly and Debian. He resides in Worcester MA and of course for more about his company you can checkout - http://www.frostbitesystems.com/ This is not meant as a selling point for the event. He is merely setting this up because he felt there was a need and interest for such an event. Lastly, I don't have a list of exhibitors but I do know the folks at Hacker Public Radio will have a table there. I hope I've addressed all questions. Again sorry for the confusion, I should have proof read the original before sending out. Take care, Bp ----- End forwarded message -----

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2D CAD for Linux
by Richard Klein 15 Mar '11

15 Mar '11

I just read that DraftSight 2D CAD software is now available for Linux: http://www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/free-cad-software/ I use it all the time in Windows. It works, and the price is right. -- Rich

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 89, Issue 5
by David Hardy 15 Mar '11

15 Mar '11

Hi, Pete; I was posting from my MIL's place at Shelburne-On-The-Bay, just south of Burlington and just off Route 7. We were house-sitting for her while she's snowbirding in Florida. The Bay opens up into Lake Champlain, which right now has a bit of ice near the shores and is otherwise open water, thanks to the moderate temps this week. We actually live in a 205-year-old farmhouse in West Montpelier. With two dogs and four cats, and two each, Windows and Linux boxes. My Windows 7 box has some VMS emulation sw on it for old lang syne, seeing as how that was my early experience in IT for years. Last worked with OpenVMS 7.1 four years ago. You're at Clark U.? Wow. I worked there in campus police from 1980-83, then the campus bookstore, where I sold DEC Rainbows in cooperation with DEC to students, faculty and staff, and then when they sold it out to Barnes and Noble, I went back to campus police for another eighteen months, finally leaving in '86 to go work out at Simplex Time Recorder, in Gardner, with a PDP-11 running RSX for CAD/CAM apps and a MicroVax running VMS 4.0. I first learned VMS down in the basement of the Goddard Library while I worked the dead shifts for the CPD, reading those old orange binder manuals. Several of the campus police are still there, including the chief, who started there as a patrolman, and of course some of the faculty are still teaching. Jack Foley was working as an assistant manager at one of the dining halls when I started there in 1980. I stopped by to visit in '06 and also applied for an IT job there, as I believe they still had VMS, plus the usual Windows, and also Red Hat. Never heard from them. Par for the job search for many years now. Also applied for IT gigs at WPI and never heard from them, either. So I am back in northern Vermont and after being bounced from a one-year temp contract nine months early, am on the job hunt again. So much fun. Regards, Dave On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: KO (Pete Wason) > 2. Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 88, Issue 10 (Pete Wason) > 3. Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 88, Issue 10 (Pete Wason) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:38:08 -0400 > From: Pete Wason <codevark(a)aim.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] KO > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <4D7EA6E0.5090805(a)aim.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I worked with a guy in the late '90s at a dotcom; at some point before > that he managed a huge team at DEC and was friends with KO, played golf > and such. Had great things to say about the man. > > On 2/12/2011 9:56 AM, kevin.paetzold wrote: > > Since we are reminiscing about DEC and KO.... > > > > I started at DEC in 1978 working on the DECSYSTEM20. My first manager > > was one of the first 100 DEC employees and even though I was initially > > working as a contractor for DEC (on an air force base) in Rome NY we > > made a trip to Maynard where he introduced me to the mill and to Ken > > Olsen. It was a fascinating time as I worked at the place which > > essentially funded the ARPANET and TCP/IP. I went to work in DEC > > engineering in Marlboro in 1981. Eventually I ended up at Stratus where > > among other things I now manage the Linux group (I never worked on VMS > > although I did do some stuff with the Ultrix group). It still amazes me > > (and many others) that DEC went away. I often tell my engineers that > > when I see some computer or software technology that DEC did not have I > > will let them know (there is some but not much that DEC did not have > > first and for which very little credit is given). > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNfqbgAAoJEBARJW02o9tw44oH/2Tn2xUeai1p/UExIQtI8zUc > A8FGBBfpOBjteWaTKiRYNDdYhLNeI2v/DDyhtqJO+8DlKDLesFlDgEDShLXqlCZ3 > ege8GM49O5ZfCjA8Ta82J1DUtK7AhvPL6/D4py/gboENX//JGGCUqPGcxSWo0dCl > sxe/MTeS36JstyStQlVfHLtvuaQIdZalLaqn/ywuVeBROHOCo23UNEQBRQ77BgFG > fJuChOT6cQe2Ht0g2kDZEPYd2pxqDjXprr5M7RYlcyxMNu58QusokGjyK0+ezL3M > 5QVeySsAMegCvehLPHdhnMfQkAdUwmwg6zeTLq8ZTzAIxIsrBJ9/8UZ+7AUbAZs= > =LmGf > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:41:37 -0400 > From: Pete Wason <codevark(a)aim.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 88, Issue 10 > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <4D7EA7B1.5040502(a)aim.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, Dave - > > Just curious, where on Lake Champlain? I currently work at Clark U., and > lived in Burlington for about 6 years during the early to mid '80s. It's > my favorite city east of the Mississippi. > > Pete > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNfqexAAoJEBARJW02o9tw2zgH/08yRIIxybhN12On9ptOtxnE > NpzMQHSDsMDL2c22WwRdQxPPCPdA6I0OW594Gswg7vpbh6WOYtO2eXHBHf0rCjps > Lwc8dCVQGGnQn11nJ9FFEUmALIXxvXsfxYzvCcHNV7zM057D47rJEf9guZcZUNXj > yxMfLgHLW5nvP5f9JodvogNRO/Do5nUXYn1znWhq31Wyu/Afg3P85/DrO/QY0j9S > ZomjIiTNzRXKgZc5wBsfm+FEC5AvClSROhdQ0grQ5XSRkX5QzAr1/Gs+s/x8uKGX > gNQ43ZwnY9epsfvnbEokLi9X8ZKvKa5ye+2XOqT1I757zBWGHuSoIrNW3wKvV6w= > =BlEg > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 00:06:03 -0400 > From: Pete Wason <codevark(a)aim.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 88, Issue 10 > To: codevark(a)aim.com, Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <4D7EE5AB.3010302(a)aim.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > heh that was weird. specifically chose reply to sender not list.. oh well > :) > > On 3/14/2011 7:41 PM, Pete Wason wrote: > > Hi, Dave - > > > > Just curious, where on Lake Champlain? I currently work at Clark U., and > > lived in Burlington for about 6 years during the early to mid '80s. 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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 88, Issue 10
by David Hardy 15 Mar '11

15 Mar '11

I met KO once in Maynard at the Old Mill and got to see his original orange-crate desk that he shared with Gordon Bell. Nice guy and down-to-earth. First fulltime techie gig I had was at Simplex Time Recorder, Gardner, MA, operator for DEC PDP-11 running RSX CAD/CAM stuff, and a MicroVax running VMS 3.5 for the software engineers. 1986. Previously, as an assistant bookstore manager at Clark U., I'd been in charge of selling the DEC Rainbow PCs as part of the University's program for students, faculty and staff. 1984-85. Last time I worked on DEC stuff was the VAX/VMS 7000 and the Alpha OpenVMS boxen running 7.1 at an outfit in downtown Woostuh. 2006-07. >From what I've heard inside the old DEC social circles is that a lot of the VMS engineering that didn't migrate to HP went to India, and that many of the old VMS guys have long since moved on to...drum roll....Linux. In other old DEC scuttlebutt, there was supposed to be an open field somewhere off Route 12 in Leominster that contained all kinds of hw dumped/stored there by whatever DEC facility back in the day. During my own time at DEC in 87-89 one of our operators told us he'd gotten all kinds of stuff from there and was now storing it in his front yard in Sterling. Regards from the shores of Lake Champlain in winter, Dave Hardy > 2. nice remembrances: Ken Olsen, DEC, ..... (Doug Mildram) > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:35:39 -0500 > From: Doug Mildram <dmildram(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Wlug] nice remembrances: Ken Olsen, DEC, ..... > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: > <AANLkTinCQXAHYjbuzRC+7YH9wZvVAoeokGCZoRiMDre3(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > A nice article from Jon Hall is on top of the blog > > > http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/Paw-Prints-Writings-of-the-mad… > > along with many other replies about PDP-* systems, VMS, etc. > > My first HIGHtech job (1985) was hanging tapes and keeping dumb terminals > alive and connected to four > VAX 750/780's running (not VMS but) BSD4 unix (before NFS, before NIS) > for a robotics shop in Billerica called Automatix. csh% a.out > hello, world ! > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20110209/aeb596ff/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 88, Issue 10 > ************************************ >

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KO
by kevin.paetzold 14 Mar '11

14 Mar '11

Since we are reminiscing about DEC and KO.... I started at DEC in 1978 working on the DECSYSTEM20. My first manager was one of the first 100 DEC employees and even though I was initially working as a contractor for DEC (on an air force base) in Rome NY we made a trip to Maynard where he introduced me to the mill and to Ken Olsen. It was a fascinating time as I worked at the place which essentially funded the ARPANET and TCP/IP. I went to work in DEC engineering in Marlboro in 1981. Eventually I ended up at Stratus where among other things I now manage the Linux group (I never worked on VMS although I did do some stuff with the Ultrix group). It still amazes me (and many others) that DEC went away. I often tell my engineers that when I see some computer or software technology that DEC did not have I will let them know (there is some but not much that DEC did not have first and for which very little credit is given).

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Anyone familiar with XenServer 5.0?
by Pete Wason 14 Mar '11

14 Mar '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm mucking about with three vhosts and one refuses to connect to the iSCSI SR the other two can see fine. Have tried a number of things, still no progress.. Pete -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNfYmMAAoJEBARJW02o9tw9r8H/j7759HRudUsvem3sW55U+7e jJ7D0nFTKEx2JsBKqabrODWIGb+uKgZT8Lk+BXYYIgXDPUWmFa/uf5dAzk9U48xC ubiNcLFpPZhdcj9eym9N3UEh7x4m8HjvhmMU09946KpLBy8ak5ebEo8vqw0Jxv8R CziiekfonMMmiFGeQKB17qll+a0u5U+yrknt2gw4RooVYQeOBvQE7lVBK1FOoa0f 0dul4ZHO5hQrUw2Plx4TwL1BhdGV4U+yHDUv86jayZsFEniaZFtoQXkuvRTMlXws 7E+pYDKGyH37kPJewUhWV3GmHtX502wt2gOGR1U0XsbsO7wCnEECDxopbrbWRhw= =fV/D -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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WLUG Meeting Tomorrow (3/9) Virtualization Technologies!
by Tim Keller 08 Mar '11

08 Mar '11

Hey Everybody, Remember, We've got a WLUG meeting tomorrow! I'm going to be giving a talk about virtualization technologies at 7PM. The meeting is going to be in the meeting room next to Morgan Hall (Look for the penguins!) Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder: WLUG Meeting Next Wed (3/9) Topic: Virtualization Technologies
by Tim Keller 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Hey Everybody, This is a reminder that next Wednesday I'm going to be giving a talk about virtualization technologies. I plan to do some white boarding, slides and a demo of different virtualization products currently on the market (both closed and open source). If anybody has specific questions or specific things they'd like to me to cover let me know and I'll update/expand my slides and notes to cover it. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Remembering KO
by Ken Jones 13 Feb '11

13 Feb '11

I shall reveal my age. I was a working AN/FSQ7 programmer in Group 67 at Lincoln Labs when KO took off on his crazy venture to that mill in Maynard. I did not know Ken at the time as he was in Group 64 if my memory serves me correctly. DEC's first products were 'logic boards'. Those were the days of 'wire wrap' breadboarding. Ken's cards built with itty bitty new fangled transistor things slipped securely into a standard wire wrap board. I do not remember any specific cards, but I know they consisted of multiple individual NAND and NOR gates and probably a couple of FLIP FLOPs. >From that came the PDP-1 which I never saw. My memory focuses on the PDP-8 which was popular - so to speak. To put this in perspective the US had just deployed the SAGE air defense computers all around the country to detect and intercept Russian atomic bomb carrying jet airplanes. The SAGE computers used water cooled vacuum tube technology. I suggest, if you can find a library (remember them?), that is open check out "DEC is Dead, Long LIve DEC" The Lasting Legacy of Digital Equipment Corporation by Edgar Schein. (Is it available on NOOK?). My read of that book was that DEC was fine and healthy so long as it's engineers were producing products the customers did not know they needed, ie DEC was never consumer driven. (This is part of why KO was so beloved.) I was a TCP/IP aware person when I went to work for DEC in 1985. Inside those DEC walls DECnet was not only everything, it was the only thing. Ken Jones

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Off topic: good iPod Touch 4th Gen repairers?
by John Stoffel 10 Feb '11

10 Feb '11

Guys, Got a 4th gen iPod Touch with a busted glass cover. Anyone know of a reliable and cost effective place to do the repair? Thanks, John --

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nice remembrances: Ken Olsen, DEC, .....
by Doug Mildram 09 Feb '11

09 Feb '11

A nice article from Jon Hall is on top of the blog http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/Paw-Prints-Writings-of-the-mad… along with many other replies about PDP-* systems, VMS, etc. My first HIGHtech job (1985) was hanging tapes and keeping dumb terminals alive and connected to four VAX 750/780's running (not VMS but) BSD4 unix (before NFS, before NIS) for a robotics shop in Billerica called Automatix. csh% a.out hello, world !

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WLUG meeting tonight, 7pm
by Chuck Anderson 09 Feb '11

09 Feb '11

Hi folks, Our next WLUG meeting is tonight at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

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Jon "Maddog" Hall speaking at Northeast GNU/Linux fest, Worcester
by Chuck Anderson 08 Feb '11

08 Feb '11

Northeast GNU/Linux Fest Details Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011 Time: 10:30 a.m. - 3:00 p.m. Location: Worcester State University Student Center 486 Chandler St. Worcester MA 01602 ----- Forwarded message from Jonathan Nadeau <northeastlinux(a)gmail.com> ----- From: Jonathan Nadeau <northeastlinux(a)gmail.com> To: cra(a)WPI.EDU Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 09:15:08 -0500 Subject: Northeast GNU/Linux fest Greetings, My name is Jonathan Nadeau and I'm coordinator of the Northeast GNU/Linux fest (http://www.northeastlinuxfest.org) which will be held in Worcester, MA on April 2, 2011. I was given your contact info by Jon Maddog Hall (who will be speaking at the event), and I'm writing to you to see if you would be willing to attend, and if you would please announce this to the people in your group. Thanks for your time and help. Jonathan ----- End forwarded message -----

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Linux User Group Survey
by Dafydd Crosby 07 Feb '11

07 Feb '11

Hello, I've made a survey for Linux User Group members across North America. I would like to get the pulse of different groups and see what's working so that all LUG's can improve the experience. This data will be published on http://clug.ca (the Calgary Linux User Group website) on August, 2011. The survey is only 12 questions, and shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to complete. http://www.lonesomecosmonaut.com/limesurvey/index.php?sid=94921&newtest=Y&l… Thank you for your participation! -Dafydd President of Calgary Linux User Group

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Computer Recycling - Wlug Digest, Vol 88, Issue 6
by Steven Greenberg 05 Feb '11

05 Feb '11

Just before moving from the Portland, Oregon area back to Massachusetts, I did have the proverbial closet of old computer equipment. Portland had a place that you could bring this equipment to for recycling. They charged a small fee to take the equipment off your hands with the commitment that they would refurbish it or otherwise recycle it. Of course Portland had such a strong green ethos that a business like this could flourish there. I figured I did my part for the environment and saved the cost of moving the dead weight across country and storing it in a closet here. /Steve On 2/5/2011 12:00 PM, wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Business idea (joel d) > 2. Re: Business idea (soup) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: http://www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

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Re: [Wlug] Business idea
by joel d 05 Feb '11

05 Feb '11

On 2/3/2011 11:30 AM, Keith Wright wrote: >> From: Jason Couture<plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> >> >> I was considering reviving my PC business by selling >> computers with linux preinstalled. Does anyone have >> any distro suggestions aside from Ubuntu and mint? Do >> any of you know anyone who may be interested? > Well, good luck with that (sincerely). > > I had that idea about twelve years ago. > > http://www.free-comp-shop.com/ > > As it worked out, I was fronting thousands > of dollars for parts and working for a day > to put it all together for a profit of a > few dollars. You can't ask much money for > doing a simple thing that the people smart > and knowledgable enough to want can do for > themselves. > > I decided to give it up when one company > that bought about $3000 worth of computer > decided to return it. That was my main > computer for several years, but if I had > designed it myself I would have built > something a bit cheaper. I sure didn't > need another one. > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > I have also been trying out the numbers on such a venture and have come to the same conclusion (as Keith). If you can come up with a special niche market, like a car/boat/RV computer or a DVR/HDTV computer for a particular market that has some kind of Television access problem, then you may find a way to profit. It is very hard to go up against the low-end and sale machines at the stores. If you are a great seller, you may be able to talk your way into some customers. In Florida, there are a couple of small companies doing neighborhood wifi internet access for a great price, but even they depend more on the internet charges and the computer service calls than on system sales. Service and training seems like the most profitable part of the picture to me. Still, I hope you find a way to do this. I hope I don't sound too negative. I'm just a regular guy without any strict training or a business degree, so I'm certainly not the last word on the subject. DaveC -- David P. Connell "Watch where you're going; remember where you've been." Hey, Sorry for not chiming in sooner. I remember while working on my MBA trying to work out how to run a small for profit local PC and support business aimed at home consumers and an occasional small business. The short answer at the time was the advent of the "shiny new $450 PC" made computers toaster-ish (breaks - put in basement/closet - buy another). In the ensuing decade plus since I have confirmed two things IMHO: 1) The price of entry level PCs are going even lower. I haven't looked but I bet there are refurbs out there for $200-ish. This fact makes it harder for a consumer to pay even $25 for someone to work on their (likely 2 to 6 years old on average) PC whether in a shop or in the home. The business person's reasoning is "good money after bad". Not sure why home consumers do this, but they do. 2) Most non-IT geeks have a small closet/basement pile of PCs somewhere in their house if they haven't moved within the decade. Moving of course drives people into momentary sanity with "Why am I keeping / saving / moving all this useless junk?" Geeks of course re-use them as personal firewalls / coffee warmers / Myth boxes / ways to communicate with aliens / ... App won't install... Printer cable won't connect... Adware and viruses got you slugging along... Bad device driver killing your uptime... Your 18 long hair cats packing the case with a fur effigy with expected heat & reboot issues... Consumers answer to all is: "Buy a new PC!" Ask around to non-geek friends/co-workers. You will be amazed. A family friend is on their 4th brand new computer in 3 years. I assure you the scope of work has not changed (web browsing, e-mail, facebook, etc). I am now wondering how do you get these closet PCs for cheap/free then image them to get them useful again. Obvious start is to get referrals from moving companies that quote household moves, then call offering to remove their unused PC's for free. Somewhere there must be a support group for home consumers who have their own Dell rep on speed dial. I am not bashing Dell here, merely using their name in the examples to make a point, Joel

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Business idea
by Jason Couture 03 Feb '11

03 Feb '11

I was considering reviving my PC business by selling computers with linux preinstalled. Does anyone have any distro suggestions aside from Ubuntu and mint? Do any of you know anyone who may be interested?

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Kernel Crash dump
by Andy Stewart 03 Feb '11

03 Feb '11

HI guys, I finally got some type of crash dump from my system. I have tried Ubuntu variations of the 2.6.35, 2.6.36, and 2.6.37 kernels, all of which have crashed on me. Finally, 2.6.37 gave me a trace on the console screen. I had to copy it down by hand, so don't take it too literally. Here is the data. I intentionally left out all of the hex addresses in the call trace. It seems pretty obvious to me that something is amiss in the hardware. I wonder if my heat syncs are full of dust. That will be the first thing I check. Any helpful advice would be most appreciated. Thanks! Andy ======= Hardware error CPU0 Machine Check Exception: 4 Bank 4 2f00001000010c0f TSC 1ae6ab55d12 Processor 2 f5a time 1296699696 socket 0 apic 0 mc4_status uncorrected error, other errors lost: yes cpu context corrupt: yes Northbridge error, node 0, crc error detected on HT link Transaction GEN (GEN), no timeout, Cache level L3/Gen, Participating processor:OBS Machine check: processor context corrupt Kernel Panic - not syncing: Fatal Machine check on current CPU Pid 0, comm: swapper Tainted: G M 2.6.37-020637-generic Call Trace: #MC panic printk mce_panic do_machine_check machine_check native_safe_halt EOE default_idle cpu_idle rest_init start_kernel early_idt_handler x86_64_start_reservations x86_64_start_kernel panic occurred, switching back to text console ======= -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Re: [Wlug] Kernel Crash dump
by Jason Couture 03 Feb '11

03 Feb '11

Try leaving the mem test running for a while, see if it will do it with that running. Could have just been the dust too lol. On Feb 2, 2011 11:14 PM, "Andy Stewart" <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: On 02/02/2011 10:25 PM, Jason Couture wrote: > I'd run memtest86 plus, the memory controller can cau... Well, I cleaned out a bunch of dust...maybe a heat problem caused some weirdness. I'm also running memtester on the live system...so far, so good. The machine is about 5 yrs old - maybe this is my excuse to build myself another one. The crash is weird, sometimes it crashes within a couple of minutes of booting the system, and other times, it takes a week. I still claim that it started happening when I upgraded from SuSE 10.1 to Kubuntu 10.10, but I did open the case and install a new SATA hard drive at that time as well. This machine was an absolute rock when running SuSE 10.1. We'll see what happens...thanks, everybody, for the helpful suggestions. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetu... Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 88, Issue 2
by Caobin zhu 02 Feb '11

02 Feb '11

Hi, eric, i am interested in your #2 item, the SCSI pc. i am living in worcester, how can i go forwared to get it if it is still available. Thanks. caobin > From: wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 88, Issue 2 > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:39:34 -0500 > > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Winter cleaning (Eric Martin) > 2. Re: Winter cleaning (Eric Martin) > 3. Re: Winter cleaning (Eric Martin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:38:33 -0500 > From: Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Winter cleaning > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTimwvJM6LpGR_0fTxsjxpX5P2v8cXSUYTd1_XE3F(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Will do. > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Henrique <nican(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > > Hello Eric, > > > > I have interest in the OpenGL book. Could you bring it to the next Wlug > > meeting? > > > > Henrique Polido. > > > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > >> I'm doing some cleaning and I have a few books / computers up for grabs. > >> It's all free, please take it if you can use it. > >> > >> Computers: > >> > >> Mis-mosh of stuff, mainly > >> > >> > >> 1. 2 CRTs (working) > >> 2. Dual Pentium Pro 200MHz w/built-in SCSI and a DDS2 or DDS3 Drive > >> 3. HP Proliant 1U server, questionably working but I think it's a fan > >> / power supply > >> 4. Intel C440 Chassis with Cabriol MB and Older Xeon processors > >> 5. 2 old cases with working 300W power supplies, need MB > >> 6. More to come > >> > >> Books: > >> Interactive Computer Graphics > >> > >> http://www.amazon.com/Interactive-Computer-Graphics-Top-Down-Approach/dp/03… > >> > >> Fluency with Information Technology > >> > >> http://www.amazon.com/Fluency-Information-Technology-Concepts-Capabilities/… > >> > >> Amazon.com: Interactive Computer Graphics: A Top-Down Approach Using > >> OpenGL (4th Edition) (9780321321374): Edward Angel: Books<http://www.amazon.com/Interactive-Computer-Graphics-Top-Down-Approach/dp/03…> > >> > >> Amazon.com: Interactive Computer Graphics: A Top-Down Approach Using > >> OpenGL (4th Edition) (9780321321374): Edward Angel: Books > >> C Pocket Reference > >> > >> http://www.amazon.com/C-Pocket-Reference-Peter-Prinz/dp/0596004362/ref=sr_1… > >> -- > >> Eric Martin > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wlug mailing list > >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > -- > Eric Martin > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20110202/4cf94edd/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:39:10 -0500 > From: Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Winter cleaning > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTimMJsfDQTigL4F5G8a-1O_1N2odUET3onEO6fh2(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have a 300W 20PIN if you want, It's currently in a case and you're welcome > to both > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > I have a computer that needs a power supply, could you email me directly if > > you have a spare? > > > > Sent from my android wireless device. > > > > On Feb 2, 2011 1:37 PM, "Eric Martin" <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > I'm doing some cleaning and I have a few books / computers up for grabs. > > It's all free, please take it if you can use it. > > > > Computers: > > > > Mis-mosh of stuff, mainly > > > > > > 1. 2 CRTs (working) > > 2. Dual Pentium Pro 200MHz w/built-in SCSI and a DDS2 or DDS3 Drive > > 3. HP Proliant 1U server, questionably working but I think it's a fan / > > power supply > > 4. Intel C440 Chassis with Cabriol MB and Older Xeon processors > > 5. 2 old cases with working 300W power supplies, need MB > > 6. More to come > > > > Books: > > Interactive Computer Graphics > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Interactive-Computer-Graphics-Top-Down-Approach/dp/03… > > > > Fluency with Information Technology > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Fluency-Information-Technology-Concepts-Capabilities/… > > > > Amazon.com: Interactive Computer Graphics: A Top-Down Approach Using OpenGL > > (4th Edition) (9780321321374): Edward Angel: Books<http://www.amazon.com/Interactive-Computer-Graphics-Top-Down-Approach/dp/03…> > > > > Amazon.com: Interactive Computer Graphics: A Top-Down Approach Using OpenGL > > (4th Edition) (9780321321374): Edward Angel: Books > > C Pocket Reference > > > > http://www.amazon.com/C-Pocket-Reference-Peter-Prinz/dp/0596004362/ref=sr_1… > > -- > > Eric Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > -- > Eric Martin > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20110202/24df222f/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:39:31 -0500 > From: Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Winter cleaning > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTi=OJ5QVYt=Bk4AqtHtv280pyVgFgiv_tSpwC+aQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Sorry, that went already > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > I could use the 1U too for my distcc compile farm, but only if no one else > > wants it. > > > > On Feb 2, 2011 1:37 PM, "Eric Martin" <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > I'm doing some cleaning and I have a few books / computers up for grabs. > > It's all free, please take it if you can use it. > > > > Computers: > > > > Mis-mosh of stuff, mainly > > > > > > 1. 2 CRTs (working) > > 2. Dual Pentium Pro 200MHz w/built-in SCSI and a DDS2 or DDS3 Drive > > 3. HP Proliant 1U server, questionably working but I think it's a fan / > > power supply > > 4. Intel C440 Chassis with Cabriol MB and Older Xeon processors > > 5. 2 old cases with working 300W power supplies, need MB > > 6. More to come > > > > Books: > > Interactive Computer Graphics > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Interactive-Computer-Graphics-Top-Down-Approach/dp/03… > > > > Fluency with Information Technology > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Fluency-Information-Technology-Concepts-Capabilities/… > > > > Amazon.com: Interactive Computer Graphics: A Top-Down Approach Using OpenGL > > (4th Edition) (9780321321374): Edward Angel: Books<http://www.amazon.com/Interactive-Computer-Graphics-Top-Down-Approach/dp/03…> > > > > Amazon.com: Interactive Computer Graphics: A Top-Down Approach Using OpenGL > > (4th Edition) (9780321321374): Edward Angel: Books > > C Pocket Reference > > > > http://www.amazon.com/C-Pocket-Reference-Peter-Prinz/dp/0596004362/ref=sr_1… > > -- > > Eric Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > -- > Eric Martin > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20110202/cbc9979f/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 88, Issue 2 > ***********************************

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Winter cleaning
by Eric Martin 02 Feb '11

02 Feb '11

I'm doing some cleaning and I have a few books / computers up for grabs. It's all free, please take it if you can use it. Computers: Mis-mosh of stuff, mainly 1. 2 CRTs (working) 2. Dual Pentium Pro 200MHz w/built-in SCSI and a DDS2 or DDS3 Drive 3. HP Proliant 1U server, questionably working but I think it's a fan / power supply 4. Intel C440 Chassis with Cabriol MB and Older Xeon processors 5. 2 old cases with working 300W power supplies, need MB 6. More to come Books: Interactive Computer Graphics http://www.amazon.com/Interactive-Computer-Graphics-Top-Down-Approach/dp/03… Fluency with Information Technology http://www.amazon.com/Fluency-Information-Technology-Concepts-Capabilities/… Amazon.com: Interactive Computer Graphics: A Top-Down Approach Using OpenGL (4th Edition) (9780321321374): Edward Angel: Books<http://www.amazon.com/Interactive-Computer-Graphics-Top-Down-Approach/dp/03…> Amazon.com: Interactive Computer Graphics: A Top-Down Approach Using OpenGL (4th Edition) (9780321321374): Edward Angel: Books C Pocket Reference http://www.amazon.com/C-Pocket-Reference-Peter-Prinz/dp/0596004362/ref=sr_1… -- Eric Martin

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Re: [Wlug] Winter cleaning
by Jason Couture 02 Feb '11

02 Feb '11

I have a computer that needs a power supply, could you email me directly if you have a spare? Sent from my android wireless device. On Feb 2, 2011 1:37 PM, "Eric Martin" <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'm doing some cleaning and I have a few books / computers up for grabs. It's all free, please take it if you can use it. Computers: Mis-mosh of stuff, mainly 1. 2 CRTs (working) 2. Dual Pentium Pro 200MHz w/built-in SCSI and a DDS2 or DDS3 Drive 3. HP Proliant 1U server, questionably working but I think it's a fan / power supply 4. Intel C440 Chassis with Cabriol MB and Older Xeon processors 5. 2 old cases with working 300W power supplies, need MB 6. More to come Books: Interactive Computer Graphics http://www.amazon.com/Interactive-Computer-Graphics-Top-Down-Approach/dp/03… Fluency with Information Technology http://www.amazon.com/Fluency-Information-Technology-Concepts-Capabilities/… Amazon.com: Interactive Computer Graphics: A Top-Down Approach Using OpenGL (4th Edition) (9780321321374): Edward Angel: Books<http://www.amazon.com/Interactive-Computer-Graphics-Top-Down-Approach/dp/03…> Amazon.com: Interactive Computer Graphics: A Top-Down Approach Using OpenGL (4th Edition) (9780321321374): Edward Angel: Books C Pocket Reference http://www.amazon.com/C-Pocket-Reference-Peter-Prinz/dp/0596004362/ref=sr_1… -- Eric Martin _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Unstable Linux in recent releases
by Andy Stewart 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

HI gang, I've read an awful lot of posts recently describing freezing or hanging systems in very recent versions of several Linux distributions. Unfortunately, I got one of them - Kubuntu 10.10 (I *knew* I shouldn't have upgraded from the very stable SuSE 10.1, except that it was quite old). My system arbitrarily hangs/freezes at unpredictable intervals. Sometimes I can make it happen 2 minutes after a reboot, and other times it takes a few days, but invariably, it does occur. I can usually induce it by doing something semi-stressful to the video, like watching something via mplayer, but it doesn't always occur. The postings I've seen appear to describe a wide variety of hardware and software configurations, and nobody can seem to find any error data in any log file. What I can't find is the solution, and I've googled extensively. Has anybody found anything online that talks about some very recently discovered bug and its fix that would cure the problem? Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Unstable Linux in recent releases
by Kevin Paetzold 17 Jan '11

17 Jan '11

In case no one made the connection between my previous messagesubject and this thread..... They are the same. I believe that the fix i pointed out is the cause of these "unstable" linux's. Certainly the fix worked for me. When I first booted with one of the fixed kernels it ran for a wk (before i rebooted). Previously my machine was hanging at least once per day and at some points every hour or so. And in answer to previous question, the machine was hung such that it was not possible to ssh into it or make it respond in any way. Indeed after using the power switch to turn off the machine I still had to pull the AC plug to get it to be able to reboot. On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:25 AM, kevin.paetzold <kevin.paetzold(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I meant to say that I am now running vmlinuz-2.6.35.10-77.fc14.i686 > from fedora 14 koji. Both the above kernel and > vmlinuz-2.6.35.10-75.bz667459.fc14.i686 > seem to resolve the issue. > > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/kernel/2.6.35.10/77.fc14/ > > In fedora this problem seemed to show up with the 10-72 kernel and was > perhaps even worse with 10-74 kernel. > > >

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hanging kernels #2
by kevin.paetzold 17 Jan '11

17 Jan '11

I meant to say that I am now running vmlinuz-2.6.35.10-77.fc14.i686 from fedora 14 koji. Both the above kernel and vmlinuz-2.6.35.10-75.bz667459.fc14.i686 seem to resolve the issue. http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/kernel/2.6.35.10/77.fc14/ In fedora this problem seemed to show up with the 10-72 kernel and was perhaps even worse with 10-74 kernel.

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hanging linux
by kevin.paetzold 17 Jan '11

17 Jan '11

I recently saw comments on this list about kernels that hang. Indeed that was/is true for fedora 14. The symptoms I saw were essentially a frozen screen with no mouse pointer etc... In my case I would actually have to power cycle (actually pulling the ac plug) my dell pc to reboot it. In my case I believe that the bug (in fedora land) was bz667459. see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=667459 I was a comments in this bug pointed me at a bug fix kernel "vmlinuz-2.6.35.10-75.bz667459.fc14.i686". This kernel resolved the problem. By the way, I have now upgraded (on friday) to vmlinuz-2.6.35.10-75.bz667459.fc14.i686 from koji which has also been stable.

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Re: [Wlug] Any idea where to find a job?
by Jason Couture 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

Any it position will do, as for travel marlboro, framingham, etc are all fine by me, boston would be a bit far. My retail experience consists of: logistics, electronics sales, and hourly management. Prior to that I used to sell, repair and build computers. And would troubleshoot and set up networks. As well as contract programming. I'm a jack of all trades when it comes to computers really. Id actually like to avoid any linux positions as I'm not really sure how to rate my knowledge. I can install a working gentoo system without the handbook, if that gives any hints. Sent from my android wireless device. On Dec 23, 2010 2:11 PM, "Cole Lavallee" <colelavallee(a)gmail.com> wrote: What are your options for travel? Are you looking solely for just a Linux position? To be honest, they're hard to come by. (100% Linux) without experience. What is your retail experience include? I worked at Best Buy selling computers for 2 years & had 9 months of college course work completed when I landed my first position. (Windows desktop support role) That was 3 years ago this month, now I work with Linux/Windows/VMware/Networking/Storage/etc. On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:10 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > > Jason> If anyone k... -- Cole Lavallee 401.935.4007 http://www.linkedin.com/in/colelavallee _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Unstable Linux in recent releases
by Jason Couture 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

Andy, I'm sorry, I got the emails mixed up. It could be a driver issue, but I only suspect that due to the freezing under heavy video load. Could I also suggest trying a different video card to eliminate hardware issues? The video card may have started to fail as you switched distros, unlikely but possible? Sent from my android wireless device. On Jan 16, 2011 8:47 AM, "Andy Stewart" <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: On 01/16/2011 06:25 AM, Jason Couture wrote: > Have you tried the nonfree nvidia drivers? Or perhaps... Hi Jason, My graphics chip is the ATI Radeon RV280 (Radeon 9200 PRO), and it is running the Free Software driver. There is nothing proprietary in use for the video. I don't generally like to use the proprietary drivers, but perhaps I could try it to see if it makes any difference. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsf... Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Dec Meeting announcement / linux-raid problem
by Eric Martin 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

I just realized that I haven't received anything from WLUG in over a month, including the announcement for this past meeting. Did anybody else have this problem or is it just me? Now, the main reason for my email. My mythbox / home file server runs linux soft-raid in RAID5 with 3 500GB disks. One disk went bad a while ago and the array never rebuilt itself. The other day, the second disk went bad. Am I hosed? I've been googling for 'rebuild bad linux software raid' but all I get is the rebuild command. Also, I don't see any tools that will move bad data to another spot on the disk. This is my first time using software raid so I'm in a bit over my head. thanks! -- Eric Martin

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Old man and LINUX
by Ken Jones 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Folks, I have always wondered at my ability to keep the myriad of LINUX instructions in my head. What would I do if I were to start losing them? Is there a tool to search for recall? Is there any way to go backwards in LINUX command land? If I were to remember that there is a command that will print on standard output the contents of a file in txt characters, but could not for the life of me remember 'more'. Where would I go for help (other than sending a email to this list serve)? All the command dictionaries I have are alphabetic. Ken Jones (the elder)

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Re: [Wlug] Old man and LINUX
by Steven Greenberg 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Unix/Linux command names were exactly what drove me crazy when I first had to use Unix. I wanted to list something on the terminal, or maybe type it. Who would have thought to "cat" it or "more" it. And then we have the aptly named utilities like "awk". I was so proud when it finally dawned on me what the letters "a" "w" and "k" stood for. So I eventually did learn all the commands, but I never thought about the problem of forgetting them until this digest entry. I had the same reaction to emacs in the beginning. Doing apropos in emacs is not helpful when the concept you associate with the task is nothing like the way it is named or described in Emacs. I have learned to write down in a diary on my computer every time I finally find the hard to find command in either Emacs or unix/linux. The next time I want to do the same thing and I have forgotten what the command is, and I finally give up trying to find it in emacs, I can search my diary. Chances are the diary entry will be associated with the word I mentally associate with the task. /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: http://www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

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Old man and LINUX
by temljrmjrlmr＠comcast.net 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Try "fc -l" (thats dash ell) no quotes shows a tail of whats in .bash_history I think Or - if you know the command's number in the history sequence "fc {$line_no}" Brings Previous command comes up in your default editor Default here (Ubuntu Hardy) was set to the nano editor for some reason so i did FCEDIT=vi ; export FCEDIT NOW things are more better Jay Louis J Rouleau Semi-Old Man South Hadley --------------- Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:02:29 -0500 From: Jorden M <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Old man and LINUX To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Message-ID: <AANLkTi=NDA=EenfiOTAcnROVGEjfajmH93mwss5vj9XQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Folks, > > I have? always wondered at my ability to keep the myriad of LINUX > instructions in my head.? What would I do?if I were to start losing them? > Is there a tool to search for recall? > > Is there any way to go backwards in LINUX command land? ?If I were to > remember that there is a command that will print on standard output the > contents of a file in txt characters,? but could not for the life of me > remember 'more'.? Where would I go for help (other than sending a email to > this list serve)?? All the command dictionaries I have are alphabetic. > > Ken Jones (the elder) > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > apropos, although that isn't always helpful. Google. There are also some sites that have commands listed categorically. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:00:25 -0500 From: "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Old man and LINUX To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Message-ID: <19758.16537.740475.105771(a)quad.stoffel.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>>> "Ken" == Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> writes: Ken> Folks, Ken> I have always wondered at my ability to keep the myriad of LINUX instructions in my head. What would I do if I were to start losing them? Is there a tool to search for recall? Ken> Is there any way to go backwards in LINUX command land? If I Ken> were to remember that there is a command that will print on Ken> standard output the contents of a file in txt characters, but Ken> could not for the life of me remember 'more'. Where would I go Ken> for help (other than sending a email to this list serve)? All Ken> the command dictionaries I have are alphabetic. man -k something where something is vaguely related to your needs. In this case, I just did 'man -k text' and the last things that popped up were 'zmore'. Plus a bunch of other system calls and library calls about text handling. Maybe pickup one of the linux for beginners books that O'Reilly puts out? Unix in a Nutshell, etc. That should help you find commands. Also, *any* text editor will let you read a text file, even if you don't want to edit it. John ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:24:17 -0500 From: Gregory Avedissian <avedis.g(a)verizon.net> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Old man and LINUX To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Message-ID: <4D2E4631.7020705(a)verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The up arrow will take you through your command history in reverse order. If you want to see more than one command at a time, open .bash_history in your home with a text editor, or, while you're still remembering it, do 'more .bash_history'. If you remember the command, but you can't recall what options you used with it, 'grep some-command .bash_history' can help. You can set the system to hold more commands, if you want. In debian, the default is to hold the last 500 commands. I don't recall what it is in other distros. Spiral-bound notebook is good, too. A couple of pages of your favorite commands and just about anything else will still be readable if the system crashes. Greg Avedissian On 01/12/2011 03:56 PM, Ken Jones wrote: > > Folks, > > I have always wondered at my ability to keep the myriad of LINUX > instructions in my head. What would I do if I were to start losing > them? Is there a tool to search for recall? > > Is there any way to go backwards in LINUX command land? If I were to > remember that there is a command that will print on standard output the > contents of a file in txt characters, but could not for the life of me > remember 'more'. Where would I go for help (other than sending a email > to this list serve)? All the command dictionaries I have are alphabetic. > > Ken Jones (the elder) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:44:57 -0500 From: James Gray <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Old man and LINUX To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Message-ID: <AANLkTineh9rsmE0TaHudw2xa6nu6GTWGTO-9jKv27F9R(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If Google and other search commands don't get what you want you could buy a reference book. Or you could create your own cheat sheet. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Folks, > > I have? always wondered at my ability to keep the myriad of LINUX > instructions in my head.? What would I do?if I were to start losing them? > Is there a tool to search for recall? > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:52:13 -0500 From: Jorden M <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Old man and LINUX To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Message-ID: <AANLkTikB6P0JK-9nUJ9Lws2sVSvC5y2AzXF=bx8ggjjD(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 apropos is equivalent to man -k On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:00 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: >>>>>> "Ken" == Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> writes: > > Ken> Folks, > Ken> I have ?always wondered at my ability to keep the myriad of LINUX instructions in my head. ?What would I do if I were to start losing them? ? Is there a tool to search for recall? > > Ken> Is there any way to go backwards in LINUX command land? ?If I > Ken> were to remember that there is a command that will print on > Ken> standard output the contents of a file in txt characters, but > Ken> could not for the life of me remember 'more'. ?Where would I go > Ken> for help (other than sending a email to this list serve)? ?All > Ken> the command dictionaries I have are alphabetic. > > man -k something > > where something is vaguely related to your needs. ?In this case, I > just did 'man -k text' and the last things that popped up were > 'zmore'. ?Plus a bunch of other system calls and library calls about > text handling. > > Maybe pickup one of the linux for beginners books that O'Reilly puts > out? ?Unix in a Nutshell, etc. ?That should help you find commands. > > Also, *any* text editor will let you read a text file, even if you > don't want to edit it. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:19:39 -0500 From: Franklin Moody <fmoody(a)moodman.org> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Old man and LINUX To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Message-ID: <20110113021937.GB13934(a)fmoody.moodman.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:24:17PM -0500, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > The up arrow will take you through your command history in reverse order. > If you want to see more than one command at a time, open .bash_history in > your home with a text editor, or, while you're still remembering it, do > 'more .bash_history'. If you remember the command, but you can't recall > what options you used with it, 'grep some-command .bash_history' can help. > > You can set the system to hold more commands, if you want. In debian, the > default is to hold the last 500 commands. I don't recall what it is in > other distros. > > Spiral-bound notebook is good, too. A couple of pages of your favorite > commands and just about anything else will still be readable if the system > crashes. > > Greg Avedissian I usually use "history | grep $blah" when looking for a particular set of command line options... On machines where I don't intentionally disable history for security... Frank ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug End of Wlug Digest, Vol 87, Issue 9 ***********************************

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Re: [Wlug] Old man and LINUX
by Aljerin Butler,Jr. 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Try http://www.linuxmanpages.com/. It has every command you've probably ever used and then some. Al Butler http://customlinux.tripod.com/ --- On Thu, 1/13/11, wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: From: wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 87, Issue 9 To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 12:00 PM Send Wlug mailing list submissions to wlug(a)mail.wlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Canceled due to weather: WLUG meeting Wed 1/12/2011 (Theo Van Dinter) 2. Old man and LINUX (Ken Jones) 3. Re: Old man and LINUX (Jorden M) 4. Re: Old man and LINUX (John Stoffel) 5. Re: Old man and LINUX (Gregory Avedissian) 6. Re: Old man and LINUX (James Gray) 7. Re: Old man and LINUX (Jorden M) 8. Re: Old man and LINUX (Franklin Moody) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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