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[SPF:Probably_Forged] RE: Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall!
by Mike Peckar 31 May '16

31 May '16

>maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop. So Maddog, feel free to bring along some tequila from your micro distillery, but if you do, please make sure to toss in a few worms from the bait shop. :-) From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Tim Keller Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 5:01 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall! Hey Gang, Jon "Maddog" Hall is going to be speaking at the upcoming meeting! Here's the details: Date & Time: June 9th, 2016 @ 7pm Location: WPI Atwater-kent Rm 232 Topic: Back from the Dead: Projects that maddog is working on, and why you should care Abstract: Only a month after a massive heart attack maddog will be talking about some of the projects he is working on: (1) Rebooting the Linux Professional Institute (and why you should care) (2) Selling small computers in Brazil (and why you should care) (3) Creating jobs for the jobless and help for the clueless (and why you should care) Who is Jon "Maddog" Hall? Jon "maddog" Hall is the Chairman of the Board of the Linux Professional Institute, and the President of Linux International. Since 1969, Mr. Hall has been a programmer, systems designer, systems administrator, product manager, technical marketing manager, author and educator. He currently works as an independent consultant, and is involved with bringing environmentally friendly computing to emerging marketplaces as well as working on performance and educational issues with Free and Open Source Software via the Linaro Association. He is also closely aligned with LeMaker, a design center located in Shengen, China. While not a founding member of LPI, maddog helped formulate some of the concepts and donated personal money to allow the first 200 tests be tested for psychometrics. Mr. Hall has worked for such companies as Western Electric Corporation, Aetna Life and Casualty, Bell Laboratories, Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), VA Linux Systems, SGI, Futura Networks (Campus Party) and Linaro. Mr. Hall has taught at Hartford State Technical College (HSTC), Merrimack College and Daniel Webster College. While at HSTC his students gave him the nickname of "maddog", and he developed the skills necessary for talking to university students over pizza and beer. Mr Hall has worked on many different operating systems (MFT, MVT, VS1, VS2, MVS, CP-67, VM/CMS, RSTS/E, RSX-11M, CP/M) but concentrated on Unix systems since 1980 and Linux systems since 1994, when he first met Linus Torvalds and correctly recognized the commercial importance of Linux and Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall obtained a DEC "Alpha" system for Linus Torvalds and organized and engineering team which helped the Linux community to port Linux to the world's fastest 64-bit microcomputer. Since 2006 Mr. Hall has been working on Project Cauā, which will large numbers of high-tech jobs allowing students who could not afford to attend university to both attend university and get real-life job experience. Mr. Hall is the author of numerous magazine and newspaper articles, many presentations and one book, "Linux for Dummies". He currently writes a blog for Linux Pro Magazine. Mr. Hall has consulted with the governments of China, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia and Brasil as well as the United Nations and many local and state governments on the use of Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall serves on the boards of several companies, and several non-profit organizations. He is currently very active with the University of Sao Paulo's Centro Interdisciplinar Em Tecnologias Interativas (CITI), acting as a member of their advisory board. Mr. Hall has traveled to over 100 countries, many more than one time, speaking on the benefits of Open Source Software having received his BS in Commerce and Engineering from Drexel University (1973), and his MSCS from RPI in Troy, New York (1977). In his spare time maddog is working on his retirement project: maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop.

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Next Meeting: June 9th 2016! Speaker: Jon "Maddog" Hall!
by Tim Keller 31 May '16

31 May '16

Hey Gang, Jon "Maddog" Hall is going to be speaking at the upcoming meeting! Here's the details: Date & Time: June 9th, 2016 @ 7pm Location: WPI Atwater-kent Rm 232 Topic: Back from the Dead: Projects that maddog is working on, and why you should care Abstract: Only a month after a massive heart attack maddog will be talking about some of the projects he is working on: (1) Rebooting the Linux Professional Institute (and why you should care) (2) Selling small computers in Brazil (and why you should care) (3) Creating jobs for the jobless and help for the clueless (and why you should care) Who is Jon "Maddog" Hall? Jon "maddog" Hall is the Chairman of the Board of the Linux Professional Institute, and the President of Linux International. Since 1969, Mr. Hall has been a programmer, systems designer, systems administrator, product manager, technical marketing manager, author and educator. He currently works as an independent consultant, and is involved with bringing environmentally friendly computing to emerging marketplaces as well as working on performance and educational issues with Free and Open Source Software via the Linaro Association. He is also closely aligned with LeMaker, a design center located in Shengen, China. While not a founding member of LPI, maddog helped formulate some of the concepts and donated personal money to allow the first 200 tests be tested for psychometrics. Mr. Hall has worked for such companies as Western Electric Corporation, Aetna Life and Casualty, Bell Laboratories, Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), VA Linux Systems, SGI, Futura Networks (Campus Party) and Linaro. Mr. Hall has taught at Hartford State Technical College (HSTC), Merrimack College and Daniel Webster College. While at HSTC his students gave him the nickname of "maddog", and he developed the skills necessary for talking to university students over pizza and beer. Mr Hall has worked on many different operating systems (MFT, MVT, VS1, VS2, MVS, CP-67, VM/CMS, RSTS/E, RSX-11M, CP/M) but concentrated on Unix systems since 1980 and Linux systems since 1994, when he first met Linus Torvalds and correctly recognized the commercial importance of Linux and Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall obtained a DEC "Alpha" system for Linus Torvalds and organized and engineering team which helped the Linux community to port Linux to the world's fastest 64-bit microcomputer. Since 2006 Mr. Hall has been working on Project Cauā, which will large numbers of high-tech jobs allowing students who could not afford to attend university to both attend university and get real-life job experience. Mr. Hall is the author of numerous magazine and newspaper articles, many presentations and one book, "Linux for Dummies". He currently writes a blog for Linux Pro Magazine. Mr. Hall has consulted with the governments of China, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia and Brasil as well as the United Nations and many local and state governments on the use of Free and Open Source Software. Mr. Hall serves on the boards of several companies, and several non-profit organizations. He is currently very active with the University of Sao Paulo's Centro Interdisciplinar Em Tecnologias Interativas (CITI), acting as a member of their advisory board. Mr. Hall has traveled to over 100 countries, many more than one time, speaking on the benefits of Open Source Software having received his BS in Commerce and Engineering from Drexel University (1973), and his MSCS from RPI in Troy, New York (1977). In his spare time maddog is working on his retirement project: maddog's monastery and marina for math, music, micro-computing, micro-brewery, micro-winery, micro-distilery, and bait shop.

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Next Meeting June 9th! 2016
by Tim Keller 25 May '16

25 May '16

Hey Gang, Our next meeting is in three weeks! I hope everybody had a great time at Technocopia! If anybody has any burning interests, please let me know. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder: May WLUG Meeting TODAY! Field Trip to Technocopia on May 12th!
by Tim Keller 12 May '16

12 May '16

Hey Everybody, This is a reminder that we've got a field trip planned for this WLUG meeting! We're going to Technocopia May 12th! @ 7pm! It's located at 44 Portland St. We've been told by 7pm the lot next to the building is available for parking. Kevin Harrington is going to be giving a tour of the new digs and then showing off his Bowler Robotics Studio stuff. Afterwards we'll figure out a pizza situation. Thanks Ron for organizing this! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder: May WLUG Meeting: Field Trip to Technocopia on May 12th!
by Tim Keller 09 May '16

09 May '16

Hey Everybody, This is a reminder that we've got a field trip planned for this WLUG meeting! We're going to Technocopia May 12th! @ 7pm! It's located at 44 Portland St. We've been told by 7pm the lot next to the building is available for parking. Kevin Harrington is going to be giving a tour of the new digs and then showing off his Bowler Robotics Studio stuff. Afterwards we'll figure out a pizza situation. Thanks Ron for organizing this! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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May WLUG Meeting: Field Trip to Technocopia on May 12th!
by Tim Keller 30 Apr '16

30 Apr '16

Hey Everybody! We are going on a field trip! When: May 12th Where: Technocopia @ 44 Portland St. Worcester MA. Parking: By 7pm the lot next to the building is empty so parking is easy. Who: Kevin Harrington What: Kevin will be giving a tour of the place and then a demo of Bowler Robotics Studio I would thank long time member Ron for organizing this! Afterwards we'll figure something out for pizza! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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WLUG Field Trip May 12th to Technopia!
by Tim Keller 23 Apr '16

23 Apr '16

Hey Everybody! Our next WLUG Meeting is going to be a field trip to the new location of Technocopia <http://technocopia.org/> Time: 7pm Date: May 12th, 2016 Location: 44 Portland St. 6th Floor Topic: Tour and Demos. I'd like to thank our long time member Ron for orchestrating this! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!
by Gregory Avedissian 21 Apr '16

21 Apr '16

Yes, it's still April, which started on a Friday. May starts on a Sunday. Greg On 04/21/2016 04:35 PM, Frank Sweetser wrote: > It wasn't just you. The WPI campus email servers had a glitch in the anti spam system, and a large backlog of messages, including WLUG, got caught up in it. > > On April 21, 2016 3:30:56 PM EDT, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: >> Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU (mx1.wpi.edu [130.215.36.141]) >> by MAIL1.WPI.EDU (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTP id u3LIE4LJ011168; >> Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:04 -0400 >> Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) >> by MX1.WPI.EDU (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3LIE3EZ012905; >> Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:03 -0400 >> (envelope-from wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org) >> Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU >> by MX1.WPI.EDU with queue id 38885170-1; >> Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:43:19 GMT >> >> Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> writes: >> >>> On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: >>>> Hey Gang, >>>> >>>> This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! >> >> I just got a wad of messages from last week. >> >> Don't know what happened, but it looks like not my fault. >> >> MX1.WPI.EDU takes seven days to deliver a message to itself. >> >> Why exactly seven days? (plus one second) >> >> Not my problem, I'm still thinking about Knuth Vol 4B, >> problem 121, and how to prove the Myhill-Nerode theorem >> in a monoidal closed category. >> >> This a test. Is it still April? >> My calendar says May, but it's 2009. >> I save paper by using old caledars (there's always >> a month that starts on the same day of the week). >> >> -- Keith >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!
by Frank Sweetser 21 Apr '16

21 Apr '16

It wasn't just you. The WPI campus email servers had a glitch in the anti spam system, and a large backlog of messages, including WLUG, got caught up in it. On April 21, 2016 3:30:56 PM EDT, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: >Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU (mx1.wpi.edu [130.215.36.141]) > by MAIL1.WPI.EDU (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTP id u3LIE4LJ011168; > Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:04 -0400 >Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by MX1.WPI.EDU (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3LIE3EZ012905; > Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:03 -0400 > (envelope-from wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org) >Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU > by MX1.WPI.EDU with queue id 38885170-1; > Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:43:19 GMT > >Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: >>> Hey Gang, >>> >>> This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > >I just got a wad of messages from last week. > >Don't know what happened, but it looks like not my fault. > >MX1.WPI.EDU takes seven days to deliver a message to itself. > >Why exactly seven days? (plus one second) > >Not my problem, I'm still thinking about Knuth Vol 4B, >problem 121, and how to prove the Myhill-Nerode theorem >in a monoidal closed category. > >This a test. Is it still April? >My calendar says May, but it's 2009. >I save paper by using old caledars (there's always >a month that starts on the same day of the week). > > -- Keith > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!
by Keith Wright 21 Apr '16

21 Apr '16

Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU (mx1.wpi.edu [130.215.36.141]) by MAIL1.WPI.EDU (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTP id u3LIE4LJ011168; Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:04 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MX1.WPI.EDU (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3LIE3EZ012905; Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:03 -0400 (envelope-from wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org) Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU by MX1.WPI.EDU with queue id 38885170-1; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:43:19 GMT Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> writes: > On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: >> Hey Gang, >> >> This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! I just got a wad of messages from last week. Don't know what happened, but it looks like not my fault. MX1.WPI.EDU takes seven days to deliver a message to itself. Why exactly seven days? (plus one second) Not my problem, I'm still thinking about Knuth Vol 4B, problem 121, and how to prove the Myhill-Nerode theorem in a monoidal closed category. This a test. Is it still April? My calendar says May, but it's 2009. I save paper by using old caledars (there's always a month that starts on the same day of the week). -- Keith

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Re: [Wlug] Raspberry Pi alternative
by JeffA Maillists 20 Apr '16

20 Apr '16

I backed this and have a 2GB model on the way... I will probably be using it as a Repetier Host server for my 3D printers... Jeff On Mar 11, 2016 9:35 AM, "Chuck Anderson" <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Here is the Raspberry Pi alternative I was trying to remember the name > of last night: > > https://www.pine64.com/product#pricing > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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I will be unavke to attend tonight...
by Tim Keller 14 Apr '16

14 Apr '16

My wife and one of my kids is under the weather... I'm going to do the right thing and stay home and take care of them. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!
by Mike Peckar 14 Apr '16

14 Apr '16

Wish I could make it but I’ve got a conflict. Greg, If you have slides or notes to share after the meeting, that would be splendid. Thanks, Mike

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!
by Tim Keller 14 Apr '16

14 Apr '16

I believe at this point ALL the rooms in WPI have hdmi. That shouldn't be a problem. I do believe all the rooms have at the podium a 3mm head phone jack. Thanks, Tim. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've got some technical concerns about the demo. Just want to make sure we > have all the right stuff on hand. No VGA port on the laptop, just HDMI. > The one time I tested that (yesterday) there was no audio through the > HDMI. The laptop speakers are loud enough if you hold your ear close. Can > we patch into the sound system with a mini-jack? (Or does someone have a > pair of micro-speakers they can bring along in their pocket?) > > Greg > > > On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > > > This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > > > > Here are the details: > > Date: April 14th, 2016 > > Time: 7pm > > Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 > > Topic: FM radio station management with Linux! > > Presenter: Greg Avedissian > > > > Long time member Greg Avedissian will be speaking about using linux to > > operate an FM radio station and giving a demo! > > > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech > pizza > > afterwards for some slices and more banter! > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!
by Gregory Avedissian 14 Apr '16

14 Apr '16

I've got some technical concerns about the demo. Just want to make sure we have all the right stuff on hand. No VGA port on the laptop, just HDMI. The one time I tested that (yesterday) there was no audio through the HDMI. The laptop speakers are loud enough if you hold your ear close. Can we patch into the sound system with a mini-jack? (Or does someone have a pair of micro-speakers they can bring along in their pocket?) Greg On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang, > > This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > > Here are the details: > Date: April 14th, 2016 > Time: 7pm > Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 > Topic: FM radio station management with Linux! > Presenter: Greg Avedissian > > Long time member Greg Avedissian will be speaking about using linux to > operate an FM radio station and giving a demo! > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech pizza > afterwards for some slices and more banter! > > Later, > Tim. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!
by Tim Keller 14 Apr '16

14 Apr '16

Hey Gang, This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! Here are the details: Date: April 14th, 2016 Time: 7pm Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 Topic: FM radio station management with Linux! Presenter: Greg Avedissian Long time member Greg Avedissian will be speaking about using linux to operate an FM radio station and giving a demo! Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech pizza afterwards for some slices and more banter! Later, Tim.

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Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thursday April 14th 2016 NOTE LOCATION!
by Tim Keller 12 Apr '16

12 Apr '16

That would be FANTASTIC! Sounds like we've got ourselves a speaker! Thanks Greg! Later, Tim. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I could talk about using linux for radio broadcast automation. Demo, too - > I've got it running on the laptop. > > Greg > > > On 04/12/2016 03:17 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > > > This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > > > > Here are the details: > > Date: April 14th, 2016 > > Time: 7pm > > Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 > > Topic: None Currently. If someone wants to speak let me know! > > > > I've reached out to a bunch of people but schedules/etc. have gotten in > the > > way. Worse case scenario, we simply nerd out... > > > > If people are interested I can speak about hadoop and what's gone into > > building the clusters and some of the hardware and management challenges > > I've dealt with. > > > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech > pizza > > afterwards for some slices and more banter! > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thursday April 14th 2016 NOTE LOCATION!
by Gregory Avedissian 12 Apr '16

12 Apr '16

I could talk about using linux for radio broadcast automation. Demo, too - I've got it running on the laptop. Greg On 04/12/2016 03:17 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang, > > This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > > Here are the details: > Date: April 14th, 2016 > Time: 7pm > Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 > Topic: None Currently. If someone wants to speak let me know! > > I've reached out to a bunch of people but schedules/etc. have gotten in the > way. Worse case scenario, we simply nerd out... > > If people are interested I can speak about hadoop and what's gone into > building the clusters and some of the hardware and management challenges > I've dealt with. > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech pizza > afterwards for some slices and more banter! > > Later, > Tim. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Reminder: Meeting Thursday April 14th 2016 NOTE LOCATION!
by Tim Keller 12 Apr '16

12 Apr '16

Hey Gang, This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! Here are the details: Date: April 14th, 2016 Time: 7pm Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 Topic: None Currently. If someone wants to speak let me know! I've reached out to a bunch of people but schedules/etc. have gotten in the way. Worse case scenario, we simply nerd out... If people are interested I can speak about hadoop and what's gone into building the clusters and some of the hardware and management challenges I've dealt with. Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech pizza afterwards for some slices and more banter! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Meeting Reminder! April 14th, 2016 @ 7pm NOTE: Location change!
by Tim Keller 06 Apr '16

06 Apr '16

Hey Gang, Our next meeting is going to be April 14th, 2016! We're going to be back in At-Water Kent Rm 232. As for a speaker nothing has panned out yet, so we'll see. Worse case I can talk about ansible. As usual snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll head to Tech to keep talking shop and eat some pizza! Later, Tim.

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Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues
by John Stoffel 01 Apr '16

01 Apr '16

Gary> Yes, that's what I was doing but after I chose this the Mint installer Gary> wasn't seeing any partitions. Removed GPT record with gdisk and that Gary> fixed it. Gary> On 03/25/2016 11:49 AM, John Stoffel wrote: >> You're talking about the MINT installer, right? In any case, I think >> you need to make sure that you boot into Win10, shrink the C:\ drive >> and leave free space on the disk. >> >> The in the mint installer you need to select the custom disk >> partitioning scheme, since you need to find and select the space by >> hand. I think you should be able to understand GPT partitions with both GRUB and Mint these days... but haven't tested it myself in detail.

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Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?
by Mike Peckar 31 Mar '16

31 Mar '16

> It is interesting that they are bringing some type of *IX support back... Peter Pouliot, who is the MS guy working on getting Hyper-V support back into OpenStack, spoke at last year's PuppetConf in Boston, and said that *nix stacks will likely come back into MS products so MS can play with the likes of OpenStack and similar opensource tools making their way into devOps, EntOps, cloud apps and big data. In essence, he indicated they're panicking and they should be. Mike

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good article Q+A with Linus Torvalds
by Doug Mildram 31 Mar '16

31 Mar '16

doug> The joys of project management! About which I know very little. I only noticed this because the IEEE......... (which i joined for a short year, then they keep sending me weekly/monthly stuff for free on email, plus they keep begging me to re-join) sent me links to..... http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/linux-at-25-qa-with-linus-torva… doug> My favorite take-home (one comment/reply to the line below said: "everyone knows that!" ) Linux is a kernel, not an entire operating system. but in the article, Linus got quoted saying... If I had known what I know today when I started, I would never have had the chutzpah to start writing my own operating system: You need a certain amount of naïveté to think that you can do it.

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Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?
by Chuck Anderson 31 Mar '16

31 Mar '16

Windows NT/XP/7/8 had the POSIX subsystem and then the Interix subsystem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interix But they deprecated it in Windows 8 and don't support it at all on Windows 10. It is interesting that they are bringing some type of *IX support back... On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 05:42:54PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > As one of my co-workers pointed out... the MS file model is fundamentally > incompatible with the linux model. Try renaming a file in windows that > someone else has open... try deleting a file someone has open. > > There are lots and lots of linux programs that do that last trick... create > a temp file, open it and then delete it... use it for scratch space and > then when they close it... *poof* it's gone. > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Dennis Payne <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> > wrote: > > > Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically > > interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin. I > > imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it support > > SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I might install > > it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install. > > > > On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > > > > > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspa… > > > > They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows > > syscalls... > > > > Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. > > > > Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now that > > it'll be running sshd. > > > > Tim.

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Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?
by Tim Keller 30 Mar '16

30 Mar '16

As one of my co-workers pointed out... the MS file model is fundamentally incompatible with the linux model. Try renaming a file in windows that someone else has open... try deleting a file someone has open. There are lots and lots of linux programs that do that last trick... create a temp file, open it and then delete it... use it for scratch space and then when they close it... *poof* it's gone. On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Dennis Payne <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> wrote: > Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically > interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin. I > imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it support > SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I might install > it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install. > > On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspa… > > They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows > syscalls... > > Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. > > Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now that > it'll be running sshd. > > Tim. > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing listWlug@mail.wlug.orghttp://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?
by Dennis Payne 30 Mar '16

30 Mar '16

Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin. I imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it support SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I might install it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install. On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-u > serspace-for-windows-developers/ > > They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows > syscalls... > > Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. > > Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now > that it'll be running sshd. > > Tim. > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?
by Tim Keller 30 Mar '16

30 Mar '16

https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspa… They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows syscalls... Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now that it'll be running sshd. Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Block-level remote file sync?
by Keith Wright 29 Mar '16

29 Mar '16

Chris <wolcen(a)riseup.net> writes: > Thanks in advance! Hope you are all well. > --Chris > > PS - LibrePlanet was pretty fun :) Fine, thank you. -- Keith PS: I was there, at least on Saturday. Were you hiding, or do I not know what Chris looks like? Hint: the law of excluded middle is irrelevant, as is relevance logic. Answer: Give up? B the latter, and/or both/either A, the former, and/or B. PPS: I suppose I could Google what LOPSA stands for, but I don't care.

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Next Meeting April 14th!
by Tim Keller 29 Mar '16

29 Mar '16

Hey Gang, The next meeting is going to be April 14th. I've put a couple of feelers out for speakers but nothing has solidified yet. If there's something people would like to talk about, I'd be game! Here are couple of topics that people might find interesting: Home security using Zone Alarm Hadoop FOSS Databases Let me know what you think. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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LOPSA-East '16 Early Bird Registration extended
by LOPSA-East '16 29 Mar '16

29 Mar '16

The “*please fasten you seatbelt sign*” is on and LOPSA-NJ is happy to announce that registration for the 2016 LOPSA-East conference is *OPEN*. Early Bird pricing is a great deal and will be available till March 25th. We have some great classes and talks this year and we hope you all can join us. There are many discounts that you can find out about at http://lopsaeast.org/2016/lopsa-east-costs/#dis Our Friday night Keynote will be Tanya Reilly who has been a Site Reliability Engineer at Google since 2005, working on low level infrastructure like distributed locking, load balancing, bootstrapping and monitoring systems. Before Google, she worked as a Systems Administrator at eircom.net, Ireland’s largest ISP, and before that she was the entire IT Department for a small software house. She likes writing Go, building Lego spaceships, and predicting how things will break.” “Does technical debt turn your small changes into minefields? Does your production environment expect perfect humans? This talk highlights tools, configuration and documentation that set us up for failure. It advocates for removing traps, so that you don’t have to waste brain cycles on remembering where they are. And it offers practical advice for sending your future self (and future coworkers!) gifts, instead of post mortems that just say “human error :-(”. Includes stories of preventable outages. Bring your schadenfreude.” We will be announcing some new great things going on later as the conference gets closer. One of the things that was brought up in the feed back from the past few years is a get together on Thursday night for those in the area or arriving early so we will be opening up the bag stuffing party to all. More details on this will be added to the website as the time gets closer. Friday night we will have the Birds-Of-a-Feathers again this year as well as a Cards Against Humanity game for anyone who wants to join and a few more fun things that make LOPSA-East different from other area conferences. We can’t wait to see you all in May at the LOPSA-East Conference. Remember to reserve your room at the Hyatt Regency New Brunswick at the group rate of $129 single/double plus tax. When the rooms in the LOPSA-East block are sold out, requests will be handled on a space-available basis at the hotel’s standard rate. Make your reservations early! To reserve your room on the web go to https://aws.passkey.com/g/51094713 If you have any questions or ideas you would like to ask or discuses please email me at wbilancio(a)lopsanj.org. <wbilancio(a)bilancio.org>

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Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues
by Gary Hanley 25 Mar '16

25 Mar '16

Yes, that's what I was doing but after I chose this the Mint installer wasn't seeing any partitions. Removed GPT record with gdisk and that fixed it. On 03/25/2016 11:49 AM, John Stoffel wrote: > You're talking about the MINT installer, right? In any case, I think > you need to make sure that you boot into Win10, shrink the C:\ drive > and leave free space on the disk. > > The in the mint installer you need to select the custom disk > partitioning scheme, since you need to find and select the space by > hand. >

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Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues
by Gary Hanley 25 Mar '16

25 Mar '16

Yeah, I should know better. I was beat up and frustrated at the time. Sorry. The root of my problem was that I couldn't find any options in the BIOS to manipulate the Secure Boot/UEFI/Legacy stuff. However, I found them this morning after I selected an option that I assumed to be unrelated which unlocked them. Thank you, Gigabyte. So I'm making progress now but I'm still not out of the woods yet. I've got Windows installed with space partitioned for LM but now I'm working on getting the installer to recognize the Windows partition. It thinks I have the entire disk available. Damn. Keep digging.... Thanks for the BLOG link. Looks interesting. I'll check it out. On 03/25/2016 09:54 AM, John Stoffel wrote: > Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side > Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell > Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace > Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for > Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power > Gary> consumption. > > Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered why I don't > Gary> like to build these any more. > > Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, > Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install > Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. > > You really really really need to give more details here, otherwise no > one will be able to help you. > > For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself without any > problems on this board? > > I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? > > So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new > bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke > both I suspect. > > Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for > Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an > Gary> Intel I5 6400). > > Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, > Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding > Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? > > Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs where they > have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way around > it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... > > Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my setup but I > Gary> hope not. > > Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's > possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow > non-signed keys to boot. > > Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI > maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh wait, it's > Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: > > https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org > > It might have some pointers. > > > But please, more details would help us help you. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues
by John Stoffel 25 Mar '16

25 Mar '16

Gary> Yeah, I should know better. I was beat up and frustrated at the time. Gary> Sorry. Been there! :-) Gary> The root of my problem was that I couldn't find any options in Gary> the BIOS to manipulate the Secure Boot/UEFI/Legacy stuff. Gary> However, I found them this morning after I selected an option Gary> that I assumed to be unrelated which unlocked them. Thank you, Gary> Gigabyte. Gigabyte is usually a good bet, but I'm sure the crack monkeys who write the firmware and setup the menus weren't thinking well that day. Gary> So I'm making progress now but I'm still not out of the woods Gary> yet. I've got Windows installed with space partitioned for LM Gary> but now I'm working on getting the installer to recognize the Gary> Windows partition. It thinks I have the entire disk available. Gary> Damn. Keep digging.... You're talking about the MINT installer, right? In any case, I think you need to make sure that you boot into Win10, shrink the C:\ drive and leave free space on the disk. The in the mint installer you need to select the custom disk partitioning scheme, since you need to find and select the space by hand. Gary> Thanks for the BLOG link. Looks interesting. I'll check it out. It is interestingm, though I suspect not directly applicable in this case. You're closer now, which is good! Gary> On 03/25/2016 09:54 AM, John Stoffel wrote: Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power Gary> consumption. >> Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered why I don't Gary> like to build these any more. >> Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. >> >> You really really really need to give more details here, otherwise no >> one will be able to help you. >> >> For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself without any >> problems on this board? >> >> I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? >> >> So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new >> bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke >> both I suspect. >> Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an Gary> Intel I5 6400). >> Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? >> >> Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs where they >> have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way around >> it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... >> Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my setup but I Gary> hope not. >> >> Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's >> possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow >> non-signed keys to boot. >> >> Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI >> maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh wait, it's >> Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: >> >> https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org >> >> It might have some pointers. >> >> >> But please, more details would help us help you. >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> Gary> _______________________________________________ Gary> Wlug mailing list Gary> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Gary> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues
by Gary Hanley 25 Mar '16

25 Mar '16

Yes, I have that disabled now. Windows installed first. On 03/25/2016 10:15 AM, Randall Mason wrote: > You have turned off secure boot, right? Which OS is working right > now? Can you run grub manually from the UEFI prompt? Can you get to > the UEFI prompt? Are you trying to install Windows second after a > successful Linux install? > > Randall Mason > clashthebunny(a)gmail.com <mailto:clashthebunny@gmail.com> > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org > <mailto:rich@richardklein.org>> wrote: > > Have you considered picking one OS, then running the other in a > virtual machine? > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:54 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org > <mailto:john@stoffel.org>> wrote: > > > Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side > Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a > headache I fell > Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to > replace > Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working > fine for > Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less > power > Gary> consumption. > > Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I > remembered why I don't > Gary> like to build these any more. > > Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered > resolved, > Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to > install > Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. > > You really really really need to give more details here, > otherwise no > one will be able to help you. > > For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself > without any > problems on this board? > > I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? > > So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new > bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke > both I suspect. > > Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for > Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX > with an > Gary> Intel I5 6400). > > Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific > instructions, > Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines > regarding > Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? > > Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs > where they > have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way > around > it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... > > Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my > setup but I > Gary> hope not. > > Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's > possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow > non-signed keys to boot. > > Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI > maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh > wait, it's > Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: > > https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org > > It might have some pointers. > > > But please, more details would help us help you. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues
by Gary Hanley 25 Mar '16

25 Mar '16

That might be an option if I'm not able to get them installed the way I prefer. On 03/25/2016 10:10 AM, Richard Klein wrote: > Have you considered picking one OS, then running the other in a > virtual machine? > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:54 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org > <mailto:john@stoffel.org>> wrote: > > > Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side > Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell > Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace > Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for > Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power > Gary> consumption. > > Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered > why I don't > Gary> like to build these any more. > > Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, > Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install > Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. > > You really really really need to give more details here, otherwise no > one will be able to help you. > > For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself without any > problems on this board? > > I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? > > So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new > bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke > both I suspect. > > Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for > Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an > Gary> Intel I5 6400). > > Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, > Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding > Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? > > Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs where they > have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way around > it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... > > Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my > setup but I > Gary> hope not. > > Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's > possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow > non-signed keys to boot. > > Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI > maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh wait, it's > Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: > > https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org > > It might have some pointers. > > > But please, more details would help us help you. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues
by Randall Mason 25 Mar '16

25 Mar '16

You have turned off secure boot, right? Which OS is working right now? Can you run grub manually from the UEFI prompt? Can you get to the UEFI prompt? Are you trying to install Windows second after a successful Linux install? Randall Mason clashthebunny(a)gmail.com On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > Have you considered picking one OS, then running the other in a virtual > machine? > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:54 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >> >> Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side >> Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell >> Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace >> Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for >> Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power >> Gary> consumption. >> >> Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered why I >> don't >> Gary> like to build these any more. >> >> Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, >> Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install >> Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. >> >> You really really really need to give more details here, otherwise no >> one will be able to help you. >> >> For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself without any >> problems on this board? >> >> I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? >> >> So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new >> bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke >> both I suspect. >> >> Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for >> Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an >> Gary> Intel I5 6400). >> >> Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, >> Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding >> Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? >> >> Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs where they >> have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way around >> it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... >> >> Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my setup but I >> Gary> hope not. >> >> Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's >> possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow >> non-signed keys to boot. >> >> Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI >> maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh wait, it's >> Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: >> >> https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org >> >> It might have some pointers. >> >> >> But please, more details would help us help you. >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues
by Richard Klein 25 Mar '16

25 Mar '16

Have you considered picking one OS, then running the other in a virtual machine? On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:54 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side > Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell > Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace > Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for > Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power > Gary> consumption. > > Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered why I > don't > Gary> like to build these any more. > > Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, > Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install > Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. > > You really really really need to give more details here, otherwise no > one will be able to help you. > > For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself without any > problems on this board? > > I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? > > So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new > bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke > both I suspect. > > Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for > Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an > Gary> Intel I5 6400). > > Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, > Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding > Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? > > Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs where they > have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way around > it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... > > Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my setup but I > Gary> hope not. > > Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's > possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow > non-signed keys to boot. > > Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI > maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh wait, it's > Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: > > https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org > > It might have some pointers. > > > But please, more details would help us help you. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues
by John Stoffel 25 Mar '16

25 Mar '16

Gary> I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side Gary> hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell Gary> out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace Gary> the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for Gary> my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power Gary> consumption. Gary> So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered why I don't Gary> like to build these any more. Gary> I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, Gary> but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install Gary> and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. You really really really need to give more details here, otherwise no one will be able to help you. For example, can you install and boot linux Mint by itself without any problems on this board? I assume you can do the same with Windows 10 as well, right? So did you install Win10 first, then shrink it and install the new bootloader to let you choose between Win10 and Mint? But it broke both I suspect. Gary> I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for Gary> me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an Gary> Intel I5 6400). Gary> So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, Gary> can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding Gary> UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? Check with your vendor for an updated BIOS. Some have bugs where they have locked things down too much, and don't provide a good way around it as I recall. Haven't had to make this leap myself yet... Gary> I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my setup but I Gary> hope not. Can't tell really, since you don't give any details. I'd say it's possible, but you might need to tweak your UEFI BIOS to allow non-signed keys to boot. Have you looked at ...uum.... Mathew Wilcox? He's the Linux EUFI maintainer and has a blog out there on stuff like this. Oh wait, it's Mathew Garret. Take a look at his blog: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org It might have some pointers. But please, more details would help us help you. John

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UEFI Blues
by Gary Hanley 24 Mar '16

24 Mar '16

I used to build PCs for myself, family and friends as a side hobby many moons back but as it became more of a headache I fell out of it for the most part. But recently I decided to replace the PC I have had since 2007 even though it was working fine for my needs. I really wanted an SSD drive, USB 3.0 and less power consumption. So all the headaches immediately returned and I remembered why I don't like to build these any more. I was able to get the hardware issues I encountered resolved, but them I was hit with the UEFI problem when trying to install and dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint. I'm finding lots of help pages but none have worked for me. Maybe because I have a newer MB (Gigabyte GA-Z170MX with an Intel I5 6400). So I wonder without burdening anyone for specific instructions, can anyone provide any general thoughts or guidelines regarding UEFI, Windows 10 and Linux? I'm thinking it might be impossible to dual-boot with my setup but I hope not. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- Gary

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Re: [Wlug] Block-level remote file sync?
by Frank Sweetser 24 Mar '16

24 Mar '16

You're thinking of lsyncd: https://github.com/axkibe/lsyncd It's essentially a daemon that watches one or more directories via inotify, and fires of incremental rsync processes whenever it sees writes go by (though you can specify filters rather than a simple bit for bit copy). It's basically a poor man's userspace RAID1. Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 3/23/2016 8:50 PM, Chris wrote: > Hi all, > > I recall someone giving a lightning talk on this quite a while ago > (Chuck I think, about 2 years ago!). > > I was hoping to set up a simple backup solution with my son. He'd > replicate his data to my system, mine to his. Now, the interesting part, > was I think that the replication method someone used was a lazy write to > the backup location with a folder watching process or something. I don't > think I want to set up DRBD for this, but I would like an efficient > backup operation (e.g. would be nice to be able to efficiently backup > written chunks of a file with an EFS system on it). > > Might someone remember what I'm talking about, or have any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance! Hope you are all well. > --Chris > > PS - LibrePlanet was pretty fun :) > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Block-level remote file sync?
by Chris 24 Mar '16

24 Mar '16

Hi all, I recall someone giving a lightning talk on this quite a while ago (Chuck I think, about 2 years ago!). I was hoping to set up a simple backup solution with my son. He'd replicate his data to my system, mine to his. Now, the interesting part, was I think that the replication method someone used was a lazy write to the backup location with a folder watching process or something. I don't think I want to set up DRBD for this, but I would like an efficient backup operation (e.g. would be nice to be able to efficiently backup written chunks of a file with an EFS system on it). Might someone remember what I'm talking about, or have any suggestions? Thanks in advance! Hope you are all well. --Chris PS - LibrePlanet was pretty fun :)

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Subject: New TV Suggestions
by Joel 16 Mar '16

16 Mar '16

Late to the party. Been that kind of busy week Replaced 36 inch tube with a 55 inch LCD around 4 years ago. Bought the best TV to match the imperfect eyeballs in our home. It's personal what we all see and how well. We went with Samsung UN55D7000. Amazon shipped new was best deal around then. Would do it again (that model and via Amazon). LCD gets fed signals by: Charter Cable Box with DVR Have extra info on DVR tricks via ESata if others have this setup. Samsung blu ray player about 4 years old (no WIFI, no apps) mostly used for redbox rentals. Denon AVR 2112ci receiver & speakers key here is HDMI and "ARC" so TV & receiver share volume and inputs. It is a video source too ksetup & stations) Recently OSMC distro to play KODI on a Raspberry Pi 3 - excellent for video unsure if it works for me with music (mp3 and streaming). Older Roku 2 (likely go to OSMC or Roku 4 soon) used for Intertube streaming of Netflix / Showtime /HBO / etc. It still works but now is *wonky* and needs power reboots every other day. Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:40:35 -0400 From: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Wlug] New TV Suggestions? To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Message-ID: <CA+r3vQh7pQAb38LyQ+CQCoUW1Yu-AzLpfkzJGgpPR4+QcA=fow(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hey Gang, After 17 years, my venerable 27" Panasonic tube TV finally died. Now... what to replace it with? So far I'm looking at the Visio TVs, but I'd peoples like/hates with their current TV's etc. I like won't be using it as a monitor and will only be watching streaming stuff. I figure this is midly linux related because most modern TV's are running linux! Thanks, Tim.

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Re: [Wlug] New TV Suggestions?
by Chuck Anderson 14 Mar '16

14 Mar '16

Nice site! But Visio wasn't the recommended one for larger sizes, just "The Best TV Around $500" 43" model: "The 43-inch Vizio uses a VA-type LCD panel while some other displays (including the 49-inch M-series) use an IPS panel. While IPS panels offers wider viewing angles, making them good for a bar or restaurant, their black levels and contrast ratios are much worse. The VA-type LCD panel on our pick offers very good black levels. The local dimming features improve on that. So for most people, the sizes that use VA-type panels will look far better in your home, unless you usually watch from off to the side." Their "Best TV" was the Samsung JU7100 at $1598. They also review receivers and speakers... On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 05:18:27PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > The site my cohorts keep pointing me at is the wirecutters... who recommend > the Visio M##-C1 where ## is 43,49,50,55,60... > > I've also heard of people who are quite happy with Samsung TV's though > honestly I have a Roku so I'd rather spend the money on picture quality > then on smartness. > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:45 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > > > > Tim> After 17 years, my venerable 27" Panasonic tube TV finally died. > > > > Heh... my 32" JVC tube is still going strong... though relegated to > > the basement now... > > > > Tim> Now... what to replace it with? > > > > What devices do you have hooked up to your TV? I assume blueRay or > > DVD, but anything else? > > > > Personally, I'd probably skip or not use any of the smart TVs since > > they seem to get hacked or broken after a few short years, esp when > > the vendor turns off the website supporting them. Or stops updating > > the Netflix plugin, etc. > > > > I've got a Sony 42" LCD from 2007 which is working great. Hooked upto > > a Tivo and DVD player. So for me, getting more inputs would be a big > > thing, so then I could try running a ChromeCast or someth other type > > of system on a stick. Basically, keep the TV as dumb as possible, so > > that the sucker doesn't screw you over.

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Re: [Wlug] New TV Suggestions?
by Clint Moyer 14 Mar '16

14 Mar '16

There's pretty much no such thing as a "dumb" TV in today's consumer market. If you find one, it'll be an off brand. I bought the Vizio M55 last month and like it. It's GUI is simpler and thus less cumbersome than the Samsung TV we have. It's also 4K if that matters to you. On March 14, 2016 5:18:27 PM EDT, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >The site my cohorts keep pointing me at is the wirecutters... who >recommend >the Visio M##-C1 where ## is 43,49,50,55,60... > >I've also heard of people who are quite happy with Samsung TV's though >honestly I have a Roku so I'd rather spend the money on picture quality >then on smartness. > >On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:45 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >> >> Tim> After 17 years, my venerable 27" Panasonic tube TV finally died. >> >> Heh... my 32" JVC tube is still going strong... though relegated to >> the basement now... >> >> Tim> Now... what to replace it with? >> >> What devices do you have hooked up to your TV? I assume blueRay or >> DVD, but anything else? >> >> Personally, I'd probably skip or not use any of the smart TVs since >> they seem to get hacked or broken after a few short years, esp when >> the vendor turns off the website supporting them. Or stops updating >> the Netflix plugin, etc. >> >> I've got a Sony 42" LCD from 2007 which is working great. Hooked >upto >> a Tivo and DVD player. So for me, getting more inputs would be a big >> thing, so then I could try running a ChromeCast or someth other type >> of system on a stick. Basically, keep the TV as dumb as possible, so >> that the sucker doesn't screw you over. >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > >-- >I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >constituents as "consumers". > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] New TV Suggestions?
by Tim Keller 14 Mar '16

14 Mar '16

The site my cohorts keep pointing me at is the wirecutters... who recommend the Visio M##-C1 where ## is 43,49,50,55,60... I've also heard of people who are quite happy with Samsung TV's though honestly I have a Roku so I'd rather spend the money on picture quality then on smartness. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:45 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Tim> After 17 years, my venerable 27" Panasonic tube TV finally died. > > Heh... my 32" JVC tube is still going strong... though relegated to > the basement now... > > Tim> Now... what to replace it with? > > What devices do you have hooked up to your TV? I assume blueRay or > DVD, but anything else? > > Personally, I'd probably skip or not use any of the smart TVs since > they seem to get hacked or broken after a few short years, esp when > the vendor turns off the website supporting them. Or stops updating > the Netflix plugin, etc. > > I've got a Sony 42" LCD from 2007 which is working great. Hooked upto > a Tivo and DVD player. So for me, getting more inputs would be a big > thing, so then I could try running a ChromeCast or someth other type > of system on a stick. Basically, keep the TV as dumb as possible, so > that the sucker doesn't screw you over. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] New TV Suggestions?
by thinkbrown＠gmail.com 14 Mar '16

14 Mar '16

My recommendation would be Sony as far as image quality and reliability go. Their newest series of smart TVs integrate Android TV, which is actually good, so that's another plus. Logan On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:45 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Tim> After 17 years, my venerable 27" Panasonic tube TV finally died. > > Heh... my 32" JVC tube is still going strong... though relegated to > the basement now... > > Tim> Now... what to replace it with? > > What devices do you have hooked up to your TV? I assume blueRay or > DVD, but anything else? > > Personally, I'd probably skip or not use any of the smart TVs since > they seem to get hacked or broken after a few short years, esp when > the vendor turns off the website supporting them. Or stops updating > the Netflix plugin, etc. > > I've got a Sony 42" LCD from 2007 which is working great. Hooked upto > a Tivo and DVD player. So for me, getting more inputs would be a big > thing, so then I could try running a ChromeCast or someth other type > of system on a stick. Basically, keep the TV as dumb as possible, so > that the sucker doesn't screw you over. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] Raspberry Pi alternative
by John Stoffel 14 Mar '16

14 Mar '16

Mike> Timely! I'm working on a project to virtualize my home systems Mike> (on esxi) and have been looking at thin clients with decent Mike> GPU's - this looks like it'll fit the bill perfectly. It depends on how good the GPU is on the pine64.org system. I also note that they're not shipping the larger memory systems yet either... has anyone else tried the Beaglebone Black?

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Re: [Wlug] New TV Suggestions?
by John Stoffel 14 Mar '16

14 Mar '16

Tim> After 17 years, my venerable 27" Panasonic tube TV finally died. Heh... my 32" JVC tube is still going strong... though relegated to the basement now... Tim> Now... what to replace it with? What devices do you have hooked up to your TV? I assume blueRay or DVD, but anything else? Personally, I'd probably skip or not use any of the smart TVs since they seem to get hacked or broken after a few short years, esp when the vendor turns off the website supporting them. Or stops updating the Netflix plugin, etc. I've got a Sony 42" LCD from 2007 which is working great. Hooked upto a Tivo and DVD player. So for me, getting more inputs would be a big thing, so then I could try running a ChromeCast or someth other type of system on a stick. Basically, keep the TV as dumb as possible, so that the sucker doesn't screw you over. John

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New TV Suggestions?
by Tim Keller 14 Mar '16

14 Mar '16

Hey Gang, After 17 years, my venerable 27" Panasonic tube TV finally died. Now... what to replace it with? So far I'm looking at the Visio TVs, but I'd peoples like/hates with their current TV's etc. I like won't be using it as a monitor and will only be watching streaming stuff. I figure this is midly linux related because most modern TV's are running linux! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Raspberry Pi alternative
by Mike Peckar 11 Mar '16

11 Mar '16

Timely! I'm working on a project to virtualize my home systems (on esxi) and have been looking at thin clients with decent GPU's - this looks like it'll fit the bill perfectly. Mike -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:32 AM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Raspberry Pi alternative Here is the Raspberry Pi alternative I was trying to remember the name of last night: https://www.pine64.com/product#pricing _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Raspberry Pi alternative
by Chuck Anderson 11 Mar '16

11 Mar '16

Here is the Raspberry Pi alternative I was trying to remember the name of last night: https://www.pine64.com/product#pricing

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Re: [Wlug] March WLUG Meeting details update!
by Tim Keller 09 Mar '16

09 Mar '16

Jon, That would be fantastic! Obviously we'll work with your schedule. Let us know when and the spot's yours. Thanks, Tim. On Tuesday, March 8, 2016, Jon "maddog" Hall <jon.maddog.hall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Tim, > I am involved with a project to bring low cost Single Board Computers to Latin America. As part of this I am constantly evaluating SBCs for the project. > I could give a talk on some of the SBCs on the market, how to evaluate them and how to make a choice between the ones you might want to purchase. > Unfortunately I will not be able to do this until the June or July time frame. > If you are interested, please let me know. > maddog > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016, 03:33 Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hey Gang, >> Here are the details: >> Location: WPI Student Center Mid-Century Rm 331 >> Date & Time: March 10th, 2016 @ 7:00pm >> Topic: RPZ Bind plus round table. >> Snacks and refreshments will be provided. >> Afterwards we'll retire to Tech Pizza and continue the conversation! >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] March WLUG Meeting details update!
by Jon "maddog" Hall 09 Mar '16

09 Mar '16

Hi Tim, I am involved with a project to bring low cost Single Board Computers to Latin America. As part of this I am constantly evaluating SBCs for the project. I could give a talk on some of the SBCs on the market, how to evaluate them and how to make a choice between the ones you might want to purchase. Unfortunately I will not be able to do this until the June or July time frame. If you are interested, please let me know. maddog On Wed, Mar 9, 2016, 03:33 Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Here are the details: > > Location: WPI Student Center Mid-Century Rm 331 > Date & Time: March 10th, 2016 @ 7:00pm > Topic: RPZ Bind plus round table. > > Snacks and refreshments will be provided. > > Afterwards we'll retire to Tech Pizza and continue the conversation! > > Thanks, > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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March WLUG Meeting details update!
by Tim Keller 08 Mar '16

08 Mar '16

Hey Gang, Here are the details: Location: WPI Student Center Mid-Century Rm 331 Date & Time: March 10th, 2016 @ 7:00pm Topic: RPZ Bind plus round table. Snacks and refreshments will be provided. Afterwards we'll retire to Tech Pizza and continue the conversation! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting March 10th 2016!
by Frank Sweetser 08 Mar '16

08 Mar '16

Sure, I can throw some slides together! On March 7, 2016 9:32:04 PM EST, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Hey Gang, > >I put a shout out for topic ideas and got crickets... If Frank would be >gracious enough to do a talk bout RPZ security features in bind (even >if >it's a short one) that would be great. > >Then I figure we can do a round table and talk about the new Raspberry >Pi >3, competitors to the Pi, SQL server for Linux?!?!, ZFS on in ubuntu >16.10, >linux gaming, etc. > >If there's something that someone's interested in talking about, reply >to >the list and we'll round table it as well... lots of times this turns >into >a topic. Someone (maybe Chuck) mentioned something about Flask... > >Afterwards we'll head to Tech Pizza (and if it's warm enough maybe >Wooberry!) and keep the conversation going. > >I'd like to apologize for dropping the ball a bit lately, life's gotten >hectic. I'm going to start working on getting some speakers lined up. > >Thanks, >Tim. >-- >I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >constituents as "consumers". > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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WLUG Meeting March 10th 2016!
by Tim Keller 08 Mar '16

08 Mar '16

Hey Gang, I put a shout out for topic ideas and got crickets... If Frank would be gracious enough to do a talk bout RPZ security features in bind (even if it's a short one) that would be great. Then I figure we can do a round table and talk about the new Raspberry Pi 3, competitors to the Pi, SQL server for Linux?!?!, ZFS on in ubuntu 16.10, linux gaming, etc. If there's something that someone's interested in talking about, reply to the list and we'll round table it as well... lots of times this turns into a topic. Someone (maybe Chuck) mentioned something about Flask... Afterwards we'll head to Tech Pizza (and if it's warm enough maybe Wooberry!) and keep the conversation going. I'd like to apologize for dropping the ball a bit lately, life's gotten hectic. I'm going to start working on getting some speakers lined up. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Libre Planet 2016 - Mar 19th/20th
by Christopher Thompson 03 Mar '16

03 Mar '16

Hi all, Just a heads up to those that hadn't noticed/heard yet: Libre Planet 2016 will be held at MIT this coming this 19th & 20th. This year's keynote speaker is ACLU technologist and Debian contributer Daniel Kahn Gillmor having a discussion with Edward Snowden (via live stream, of course!). Been a long time now since I've stopped in to the WLUG meeting, but I hope to see you at the event! Pretty sure the FSF could still use some volunteers too (gratis entry!) *https://libreplanet.org/2016/ *--Chris

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Re: [Wlug] linux security camera
by Eric Martin 02 Mar '16

02 Mar '16

I can't agree more! A UPS backed PoE switch is definitely the way to go if you want to make sure you have video. On Wednesday, March 2, 2016, Jon "maddog" Hall <jon.maddog.hall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > One thing you might think about is how to supply power to all your > cameras, computers, etc. If the electricity is turned off in your house, > unless you have battery backup, you are out of luck. > > If you went the route of hardwired ETHERNET you could have a UPS at your > main control computer and use Power Over Ethernet (PoE) to deliver up to 90 > Watts of power to each node, plenty of power to run cameras, LED infrared > lights, computers or other small devices. > > Most UPS devices can deliver a relatively huge amount of power by today's > "Pi" standards, and you can buy switches that can power the leads going off. > > md > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2016, 09:27 brad <bkn(a)ithryn.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bkn(a)ithryn.net');>> wrote: > >> >> > On Mar 1, 2016, at 09:30, Michael Voorhis <mvoorhis(a)cs.wpi.edu >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mvoorhis(a)cs.wpi.edu');>> wrote: >> > >> > On 03/01/2016 09:20, Frank Sweetser wrote: >> >> * Assume wireless will stop working, because at some point it will. >> Wire is >> >> pretty cheap (you can get good prices on bulk wire at Monoprice), and >> it will >> >> more than make up for it's cost in reliability, performance, and >> security. >> > >> > At some point you may decide that one shot every 20/30s isn't enough, so >> > having a fast reliable network will become more and more important, as >> > you add cameras and start increasing frame-rates. Depending on the size >> > of picture you want to store (once again think about Frank's other list >> > items -- image resolution & quality) you can saturate a low throughput >> > network. If you're doing multiple cameras, or having multiple pictures >> > coming into the server per second, post-processing of the images on the >> > server end, you will end up with a CPU bottleneck. >> > >> > Look at the low-light performance of your cameras also. You don't want >> > to record a blur ... you want a useful picture of a person that you can >> > show to the authorities. Make sure the target area is well-lit. >> > >> >> Thank you for the responses. It sounds as if the PI is a good platform. >> The wired/wireless is a tradeoff like any other. I’m not sure i have any >> network drops in the area the camera would be mounted. If only i had the >> foresight it would have have network/power drops put on at the top of wall >> which we just installed this summer. If i can find a way do it nicely w/ >> wires i will. I will also investigate the frame rate. I specified 20-30s >> frequency more to emphasize that i didn’t require streaming video. It will >> take some experimenting. >> >> I do plan to off load the images on a regular basis (perhaps even >> instantly) i assumed these devices were short on storage. I have a NUC on >> site which i use as a VPN/SSH end point. i will likely offload images to >> the NUC (and/or owncloud instance) then use mencoder (or something similar) >> to create a timelapse video. >> >> It will be a fun project, hopefully i can carve out some time for it soon. >> Cheers, >> - brad >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org');> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile

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Re: [Wlug] linux security camera
by Aljerin Butler,Jr. 02 Mar '16

02 Mar '16

With a few instructions do you think you can get the job done? Raspberry pi Search Results (http://www.instructables.com/howto/raspberry+pi/) Specialty/hobby (http://customdesktopsolutions.mywebcommunity.org/index.php/linux-open-sourc…) Al Butler From: "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 12:00 PM Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 149, Issue 1 ----- Forwarded Message ----- Send Wlug mailing list submissions to wlug(a)mail.wlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. linux security camera (brad) 2. Re: linux security camera (Frank Sweetser) 3. Re: linux security camera (Michael Voorhis) W - luggers, I plan to rig up a security camera for my wife’s store. Recently a drunk person stumbled in and gave the sales associate a bit of a scare, fortunately nothing happened. A company quoted $4k, which i thought was unnecessary, so linux powered i will go. I recall hearing on the list about a linux security camera potential a year ago with a PI, and a search through old list messages confirms that. The market for these PI-like devices seems to be fast moving. The PI 3 was announced recently, and the wifi option is attractive b/c less wiring is desirable. I know of other similar devices such as, beagle bones, other PIs, and ODROID (mentioned on the list). These devices are out of my domain of expertise and there are many of them. I thought the PI 3 would make for a good choice, but i thought i’d ask the list if there is anything else to consider. Price is not really an option since all these devices are so dang cheap. The camera(s) will likely fire a shot once every 20-30 second interval, so its not a continuous stream. Infrared is desirable for when the store is closed and visible light is low. Thanks, - brad A few random thoughts, based on the much larger scale surveillance system we run here: * Cameras are useless without storage. I would strongly recommend against storing the images on the Pi itself, as then someone could very easily walk off with them. Instead, check out a centralized video storage system like Zone Minder. * Think carefully about what kind of images you want - resolution, image quality, and frequency. Set up a test camera, walk around, do stuff in front of it, and see how much really gets captured. 30 seconds is a long time in between frames. With something like Zone Minder, you should also be able to set data retention and long term compression policies, giving you more flexibility. Once you have some settings you can live with, you can then translate those to actual disk sizes. * Assume wireless will stop working, because at some point it will. Wire is pretty cheap (you can get good prices on bulk wire at Monoprice), and it will more than make up for it's cost in reliability, performance, and security. This is doubly true for the 2.4GHz only wifi on the Pi3. * Are those pictures important enough to back up? Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 03/01/2016 08:39 AM, brad wrote: > W - luggers, > > I plan to rig up a security camera for my wife’s store. Recently a drunk person stumbled in and gave the sales associate a bit of a scare, fortunately nothing happened. > > A company quoted $4k, which i thought was unnecessary, so linux powered i will go. I recall hearing on the list about a linux security camera potential a year ago with a PI, and a search through old list messages confirms that. The market for these PI-like devices seems to be fast moving. The PI 3 was announced recently, and the wifi option is attractive b/c less wiring is desirable. I know of other similar devices such as, beagle bones, other PIs, and ODROID (mentioned on the list). These devices are out of my domain of expertise and there are many of them. I thought the PI 3 would make for a good choice, but i thought i’d ask the list if there is anything else to consider. > > Price is not really an option since all these devices are so dang cheap. The camera(s) will likely fire a shot once every 20-30 second interval, so its not a continuous stream. Infrared is desirable for when the store is closed and visible light is low. > > Thanks, > - brad > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > On 03/01/2016 09:20, Frank Sweetser wrote: > * Assume wireless will stop working, because at some point it will. Wire is > pretty cheap (you can get good prices on bulk wire at Monoprice), and it will > more than make up for it's cost in reliability, performance, and security. At some point you may decide that one shot every 20/30s isn't enough, so having a fast reliable network will become more and more important, as you add cameras and start increasing frame-rates. Depending on the size of picture you want to store (once again think about Frank's other list items -- image resolution & quality) you can saturate a low throughput network. If you're doing multiple cameras, or having multiple pictures coming into the server per second, post-processing of the images on the server end, you will end up with a CPU bottleneck. Look at the low-light performance of your cameras also. You don't want to record a blur ... you want a useful picture of a person that you can show to the authorities. Make sure the target area is well-lit. --MCV. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] linux security camera
by Tim Keller 02 Mar '16

02 Mar '16

I'm glad this topic came up because I've also been asked to setup four wireless security cameras. My thought would be to use a raspberry pi 2 (or 3!) and have it connected via USB to a external 250GB SSD then to use zone minder to capture the video. The questions I have are: 1. Knowing the USB's all share a single interrupt... will the pi have enough throughput to capture and storage the video? 2. How many cameras can a pi reasonably support? 3. Does zone minder have retention policies? Thanks, Tim.

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Re: [Wlug] linux security camera
by Jon "maddog" Hall 02 Mar '16

02 Mar '16

Hi, One thing you might think about is how to supply power to all your cameras, computers, etc. If the electricity is turned off in your house, unless you have battery backup, you are out of luck. If you went the route of hardwired ETHERNET you could have a UPS at your main control computer and use Power Over Ethernet (PoE) to deliver up to 90 Watts of power to each node, plenty of power to run cameras, LED infrared lights, computers or other small devices. Most UPS devices can deliver a relatively huge amount of power by today's "Pi" standards, and you can buy switches that can power the leads going off. md On Wed, Mar 2, 2016, 09:27 brad <bkn(a)ithryn.net> wrote: > > > On Mar 1, 2016, at 09:30, Michael Voorhis <mvoorhis(a)cs.wpi.edu> wrote: > > > > On 03/01/2016 09:20, Frank Sweetser wrote: > >> * Assume wireless will stop working, because at some point it will. > Wire is > >> pretty cheap (you can get good prices on bulk wire at Monoprice), and > it will > >> more than make up for it's cost in reliability, performance, and > security. > > > > At some point you may decide that one shot every 20/30s isn't enough, so > > having a fast reliable network will become more and more important, as > > you add cameras and start increasing frame-rates. Depending on the size > > of picture you want to store (once again think about Frank's other list > > items -- image resolution & quality) you can saturate a low throughput > > network. If you're doing multiple cameras, or having multiple pictures > > coming into the server per second, post-processing of the images on the > > server end, you will end up with a CPU bottleneck. > > > > Look at the low-light performance of your cameras also. You don't want > > to record a blur ... you want a useful picture of a person that you can > > show to the authorities. Make sure the target area is well-lit. > > > > Thank you for the responses. It sounds as if the PI is a good platform. > The wired/wireless is a tradeoff like any other. I’m not sure i have any > network drops in the area the camera would be mounted. If only i had the > foresight it would have have network/power drops put on at the top of wall > which we just installed this summer. If i can find a way do it nicely w/ > wires i will. I will also investigate the frame rate. I specified 20-30s > frequency more to emphasize that i didn’t require streaming video. It will > take some experimenting. > > I do plan to off load the images on a regular basis (perhaps even > instantly) i assumed these devices were short on storage. I have a NUC on > site which i use as a VPN/SSH end point. i will likely offload images to > the NUC (and/or owncloud instance) then use mencoder (or something similar) > to create a timelapse video. > > It will be a fun project, hopefully i can carve out some time for it soon. > Cheers, > - brad > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] linux security camera
by brad 02 Mar '16

02 Mar '16

> On Mar 1, 2016, at 09:30, Michael Voorhis <mvoorhis(a)cs.wpi.edu> wrote: > > On 03/01/2016 09:20, Frank Sweetser wrote: >> * Assume wireless will stop working, because at some point it will. Wire is >> pretty cheap (you can get good prices on bulk wire at Monoprice), and it will >> more than make up for it's cost in reliability, performance, and security. > > At some point you may decide that one shot every 20/30s isn't enough, so > having a fast reliable network will become more and more important, as > you add cameras and start increasing frame-rates. Depending on the size > of picture you want to store (once again think about Frank's other list > items -- image resolution & quality) you can saturate a low throughput > network. If you're doing multiple cameras, or having multiple pictures > coming into the server per second, post-processing of the images on the > server end, you will end up with a CPU bottleneck. > > Look at the low-light performance of your cameras also. You don't want > to record a blur ... you want a useful picture of a person that you can > show to the authorities. Make sure the target area is well-lit. > Thank you for the responses. It sounds as if the PI is a good platform. The wired/wireless is a tradeoff like any other. I’m not sure i have any network drops in the area the camera would be mounted. If only i had the foresight it would have have network/power drops put on at the top of wall which we just installed this summer. If i can find a way do it nicely w/ wires i will. I will also investigate the frame rate. I specified 20-30s frequency more to emphasize that i didn’t require streaming video. It will take some experimenting. I do plan to off load the images on a regular basis (perhaps even instantly) i assumed these devices were short on storage. I have a NUC on site which i use as a VPN/SSH end point. i will likely offload images to the NUC (and/or owncloud instance) then use mencoder (or something similar) to create a timelapse video. It will be a fun project, hopefully i can carve out some time for it soon. Cheers, - brad

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Re: [Wlug] linux security camera
by Michael Voorhis 01 Mar '16

01 Mar '16

On 03/01/2016 09:20, Frank Sweetser wrote: > * Assume wireless will stop working, because at some point it will. Wire is > pretty cheap (you can get good prices on bulk wire at Monoprice), and it will > more than make up for it's cost in reliability, performance, and security. At some point you may decide that one shot every 20/30s isn't enough, so having a fast reliable network will become more and more important, as you add cameras and start increasing frame-rates. Depending on the size of picture you want to store (once again think about Frank's other list items -- image resolution & quality) you can saturate a low throughput network. If you're doing multiple cameras, or having multiple pictures coming into the server per second, post-processing of the images on the server end, you will end up with a CPU bottleneck. Look at the low-light performance of your cameras also. You don't want to record a blur ... you want a useful picture of a person that you can show to the authorities. Make sure the target area is well-lit. --MCV.

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Re: [Wlug] linux security camera
by Frank Sweetser 01 Mar '16

01 Mar '16

A few random thoughts, based on the much larger scale surveillance system we run here: * Cameras are useless without storage. I would strongly recommend against storing the images on the Pi itself, as then someone could very easily walk off with them. Instead, check out a centralized video storage system like Zone Minder. * Think carefully about what kind of images you want - resolution, image quality, and frequency. Set up a test camera, walk around, do stuff in front of it, and see how much really gets captured. 30 seconds is a long time in between frames. With something like Zone Minder, you should also be able to set data retention and long term compression policies, giving you more flexibility. Once you have some settings you can live with, you can then translate those to actual disk sizes. * Assume wireless will stop working, because at some point it will. Wire is pretty cheap (you can get good prices on bulk wire at Monoprice), and it will more than make up for it's cost in reliability, performance, and security. This is doubly true for the 2.4GHz only wifi on the Pi3. * Are those pictures important enough to back up? Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 03/01/2016 08:39 AM, brad wrote: > W - luggers, > > I plan to rig up a security camera for my wife’s store. Recently a drunk person stumbled in and gave the sales associate a bit of a scare, fortunately nothing happened. > > A company quoted $4k, which i thought was unnecessary, so linux powered i will go. I recall hearing on the list about a linux security camera potential a year ago with a PI, and a search through old list messages confirms that. The market for these PI-like devices seems to be fast moving. The PI 3 was announced recently, and the wifi option is attractive b/c less wiring is desirable. I know of other similar devices such as, beagle bones, other PIs, and ODROID (mentioned on the list). These devices are out of my domain of expertise and there are many of them. I thought the PI 3 would make for a good choice, but i thought i’d ask the list if there is anything else to consider. > > Price is not really an option since all these devices are so dang cheap. The camera(s) will likely fire a shot once every 20-30 second interval, so its not a continuous stream. Infrared is desirable for when the store is closed and visible light is low. > > Thanks, > - brad > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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linux security camera
by brad 01 Mar '16

01 Mar '16

W - luggers, I plan to rig up a security camera for my wife’s store. Recently a drunk person stumbled in and gave the sales associate a bit of a scare, fortunately nothing happened. A company quoted $4k, which i thought was unnecessary, so linux powered i will go. I recall hearing on the list about a linux security camera potential a year ago with a PI, and a search through old list messages confirms that. The market for these PI-like devices seems to be fast moving. The PI 3 was announced recently, and the wifi option is attractive b/c less wiring is desirable. I know of other similar devices such as, beagle bones, other PIs, and ODROID (mentioned on the list). These devices are out of my domain of expertise and there are many of them. I thought the PI 3 would make for a good choice, but i thought i’d ask the list if there is anything else to consider. Price is not really an option since all these devices are so dang cheap. The camera(s) will likely fire a shot once every 20-30 second interval, so its not a continuous stream. Infrared is desirable for when the store is closed and visible light is low. Thanks, - brad

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Linux Malware
by Gregory Boyce 26 Feb '16

26 Feb '16

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:40 PM James Barclay <andinadditiontothat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > A few days ago I watched a Matthew Moore You tube "Mythbusting Linux" > (Https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_lhqg_p21k) and he shows how he got > malware and his Arch Linux was hacked. I am using Linux Mint 17.3 and now > have an antivirus program. > His "malware infection" on his Arch box consisted of some .exe and .dll files. The existence of Windows malware on a disk doesn't make your linux system infected. Additionally, the "malware" seems to be a malware sample from an anti-virus vendor: http://www.tekdefense.com/downloads/malware-samples/

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 148, Issue 9
by James Barclay 25 Feb '16

25 Feb '16

A few days ago I watched a Matthew Moore You tube "Mythbusting Linux" (Https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_lhqg_p21k) and he shows how he got malware and his Arch Linux was hacked. I am using Linux Mint 17.3 and now have an antivirus program. I used Comodo for my XP and have it here. So now I guess we should have to buy an antivirus. I'm also looking for better ways to email and since I now have Yandex and Zoho as well as Gmail perhaps there is one even safer. I would also like to give kudos to Apple for refusing to give up the master key codes to NSA, DHS and the FBI though they have reasonably cooperated with these agencies in the past. All this from a newbie. Thank you. On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Linux Mint servers hacked (Richard Klein) > 2. Re: Linux Mint servers hacked (John Platt) > 3. Topic ideas for next meeting? (Tim Keller) > 4. Re: Topic ideas for next meeting? (Frank Sweetser) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 15:37:12 -0500 > From: Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> > Subject: [Wlug] Linux Mint servers hacked > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CA+_AdvkWx4V9ui1R5iNEN+df2dBwgaMf+EXXYD2Lp2QaqfFh2A(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I haven't read the whole story, but apparently intruders managed to > put an ISO on their servers that included a backdoor. If you > downloaded an ISO from them on Saturday, you're at risk. > > http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 15:54:46 -0500 > From: John Platt <jplatt39(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Linux Mint servers hacked > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CAKNsmOgOxN19wzaR9Gw_BX2X68+CVBz29BiDu5YuoGWGYD9J4A(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols who is a big Linux Mint fan says that if you used > bittorent or did not use a mirror you are safe. > > http://www.zdnet.com/article/has-your-linux-mint-desktop-been-hacked/ > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> > wrote: > > > I haven't read the whole story, but apparently intruders managed to > > put an ISO on their servers that included a backdoor. If you > > downloaded an ISO from them on Saturday, you're at risk. > > > > http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994 > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20160223/21b884c9/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:16:29 -0500 > From: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Wlug] Topic ideas for next meeting? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CA+r3vQh5sTuh9sBtR6dNHVtLH+TEfyBSeWb-x-CuJW3trBGA4w(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hey Gang, > > Anybody got any ideas for next meeting? > > My buddy Nick is going to be out of the country for the next meeting, so > he's yet again a no show... > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20160223/2fccfe01/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:55:58 -0500 > From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Topic ideas for next meeting? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>, Tim Keller > <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > Message-ID: <28F9BAC6-0A5A-4E33-BA96-3CA92F7C1B15(a)wpi.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > It wouldn't be a huge topic, but I could talk about the RPZ security > feature in BIND: > > https://dnsrpz.info/ > > On February 23, 2016 4:16:29 PM EST, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Hey Gang, > > > >Anybody got any ideas for next meeting? > > > >My buddy Nick is going to be out of the country for the next meeting, > >so > >he's yet again a no show... > > > >Thanks, > >Tim. > > > >-- > >I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > >constituents as "consumers". > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20160223/aa9b7384/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 148, Issue 9 > ************************************ >

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Re: [Wlug] Topic ideas for next meeting?
by Frank Sweetser 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

It wouldn't be a huge topic, but I could talk about the RPZ security feature in BIND: https://dnsrpz.info/ On February 23, 2016 4:16:29 PM EST, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Hey Gang, > >Anybody got any ideas for next meeting? > >My buddy Nick is going to be out of the country for the next meeting, >so >he's yet again a no show... > >Thanks, >Tim. > >-- >I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >constituents as "consumers". > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Topic ideas for next meeting?
by Tim Keller 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

Hey Gang, Anybody got any ideas for next meeting? My buddy Nick is going to be out of the country for the next meeting, so he's yet again a no show... Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Linux Mint servers hacked
by John Platt 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols who is a big Linux Mint fan says that if you used bittorent or did not use a mirror you are safe. http://www.zdnet.com/article/has-your-linux-mint-desktop-been-hacked/ On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > I haven't read the whole story, but apparently intruders managed to > put an ISO on their servers that included a backdoor. If you > downloaded an ISO from them on Saturday, you're at risk. > > http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994 > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Linux Mint servers hacked
by Richard Klein 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

I haven't read the whole story, but apparently intruders managed to put an ISO on their servers that included a backdoor. If you downloaded an ISO from them on Saturday, you're at risk. http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994

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Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu, now with ZFS!
by John Stoffel 18 Feb '16

18 Feb '16

>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Voorhis <mvoorhis(a)cs.wpi.edu> writes: Michael> On 02/17/2016 04:06 PM, Franklin Moody wrote: >> The only problem I've had was it getting a bit unhappy in a memory >> constrained environment.. But that is pretty understandable given >> the feature set. Michael> How small an amount of RAM are you using with your unhappy Michael> ZFS install? I'm curious to know how small an amount of Michael> memory one can have and still do a viable ZFS installation. And I'm curious how many people are running with an SSD ZiL (RAID1 please!) to speed up things on ZFS... and to make sure it's reliable. John

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Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu, now with ZFS!
by Michael Voorhis 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

On 02/17/2016 04:06 PM, Franklin Moody wrote: > The only problem I've had was it getting a bit unhappy in a memory > constrained environment.. But that is pretty understandable given > the feature set. How small an amount of RAM are you using with your unhappy ZFS install? I'm curious to know how small an amount of memory one can have and still do a viable ZFS installation. --MCV.

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Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu, now with ZFS!
by Franklin Moody 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

On 02/17/2016 02:04 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > I just saw an article that the next version of ubuntu 16.04 is going > to have ZFS built in! > > I don't know what you guys take on it is, but I'll likely do a clean > install to have ZFS as my root filesystem. > > <SNIP> I've been using ZFS on linux (native, not FUSE, and mostly for root and all) for a bit now on my personal machines, first on Gentoo then on Ubuntu 15.04/15.10 (and now 16.04), and I've been pretty happy with it. The only problem I've had was it getting a bit unhappy in a memory constrained environment.. But that is pretty understandable given the feature set. And for the docker using folks out there, you can use the ZFS storage driver instead of using AUFS... Frank

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Ubuntu, now with ZFS!
by Tim Keller 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

I just saw an article that the next version of ubuntu 16.04 is going to have ZFS built in! I don't know what you guys take on it is, but I'll likely do a clean install to have ZFS as my root filesystem. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Sendmail book
by John Stoffel 14 Feb '16

14 Feb '16

Eric> I'm cleaning up, and I came across my Sendmail book that I no Eric> longer want / need. If anybody wants it I'll bring it to the Eric> next meeting. Any one else a convert to Postfix? *grin* I'm keeping my sendmail book, if only for a reference when I need to debug some craziness in sendmail, but from now on I try to only use postfix if I can help it.

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Sendmail book
by Eric Martin 14 Feb '16

14 Feb '16

I'm cleaning up, and I came across my Sendmail book that I no longer want / need. If anybody wants it I'll bring it to the next meeting. Cheers! -- Sent from Gmail Mobile

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Last Reminder! Meeting tonight!
by Tim Keller 11 Feb '16

11 Feb '16

Hey Gang, Just a reminder, I'll be doing a talk about ELK tonight here: http://maps.wpi.edu/map/?id=609#!s/key=atwood-kent Rm 232 At 7pm. Refreshments and snacks will be supplied. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] OpenSUSE updates
by Richard Klein 10 Feb '16

10 Feb '16

Thanks for asking, Steve. Unfortunately, this email got lost in the pile. That problem cleared itself up, but then I ran into the same problem with other dependencies. Then I discovered 'zypper patch' which suggested downgrading a couple things, and everything has been smooth sailing since. On Feb 4, 2016 10:35 PM, "Steve Revilak" <steve(a)srevilak.net> wrote: > I'm having trouble with unresolved dependencies when trying to get updates >> with Apper in OpenSUSE: >> >> nothing provides libvpx.so.3()(64bit) needed by >> libavcodec56-2.8.6-55.1.x86_64 >> nothing provides libgnutls.so.30()(64bit) needed by >> libavformat56-2.8.6-55.1.x86_64 >> nothing provides liblzma.so.5(XZ_5.0)(64bit) needed by >> gstreamer-plugins-libav-1.6.1-2.1.x86_64 >> >> >> Is it just a matter of finding the right repositories? Can anyone point >> me >> in the right direction? >> > > Rich, > > What does "zypper lr" look like on your system? > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Reminder: Meeting tomorrow! Feb 11th, 2016: Topic: ELK Location: Atwater-Kent rm 232
by Tim Keller 10 Feb '16

10 Feb '16

Hey Gang, This is a reminder that tomorrow we've got a meeting! Where: WPI Atwater-Kent Rm 232 When: Feb 11th, 2016 at 7:00pm Topic: ELK (Elasticsearch, Logstash, Kibana) Who: Tim Keller There will be refreshments and snacks provided and we'll continue the discussion at Tech pizza afterwards! Hope to see you there! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] newbie onboard (James Barclay)
by Aljerin Butler,Jr. 05 Feb '16

05 Feb '16

In spreading your usage of Linux, please consider my website as a resource:http://customdesktopsolutions.mywebcommunity.org/ Al Butler From: "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 12:00 PM Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 148, Issue 2 ----- Forwarded Message ----- Send Wlug mailing list submissions to wlug(a)mail.wlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. newbie onboard (James Barclay) 2. Re: OpenSUSE updates (Steve Revilak) I hope to attend this meeting, but inform you I am not a person of technical expertise in this matter. May main aim with WLUG is to acquaint myself with other Linux users in the area and learn about what they are doing. It is with this that I hope to spread Linux usage in Worcester by various means including, I hope, having an installation fest (feast?). My introductory knowledge is with Ubuntu (Gnome and KDE), Mint (Gnome and KDE), Peppermint, Debian and Open SuSe. Right now I am using Mint 17.3 KDE. I also want to start a Linux SIG with Mensa. Thank you. >I'm having trouble with unresolved dependencies when trying to get updates >with Apper in OpenSUSE: > >nothing provides libvpx.so.3()(64bit) needed by >libavcodec56-2.8.6-55.1.x86_64 >nothing provides libgnutls.so.30()(64bit) needed by >libavformat56-2.8.6-55.1.x86_64 >nothing provides liblzma.so.5(XZ_5.0)(64bit) needed by >gstreamer-plugins-libav-1.6.1-2.1.x86_64 > > >Is it just a matter of finding the right repositories? Can anyone point me >in the right direction? Rich, What does "zypper lr" look like on your system? Steve _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] OpenSUSE updates
by Steve Revilak 05 Feb '16

05 Feb '16

>I'm having trouble with unresolved dependencies when trying to get updates >with Apper in OpenSUSE: > >nothing provides libvpx.so.3()(64bit) needed by >libavcodec56-2.8.6-55.1.x86_64 >nothing provides libgnutls.so.30()(64bit) needed by >libavformat56-2.8.6-55.1.x86_64 >nothing provides liblzma.so.5(XZ_5.0)(64bit) needed by >gstreamer-plugins-libav-1.6.1-2.1.x86_64 > > >Is it just a matter of finding the right repositories? Can anyone point me >in the right direction? Rich, What does "zypper lr" look like on your system? Steve

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newbie onboard
by James Barclay 04 Feb '16

04 Feb '16

I hope to attend this meeting, but inform you I am not a person of technical expertise in this matter. May main aim with WLUG is to acquaint myself with other Linux users in the area and learn about what they are doing. It is with this that I hope to spread Linux usage in Worcester by various means including, I hope, having an installation fest (feast?). My introductory knowledge is with Ubuntu (Gnome and KDE), Mint (Gnome and KDE), Peppermint, Debian and Open SuSe. Right now I am using Mint 17.3 KDE. I also want to start a Linux SIG with Mensa. Thank you.

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OpenSUSE updates
by Richard Klein 04 Feb '16

04 Feb '16

I'm having trouble with unresolved dependencies when trying to get updates with Apper in OpenSUSE: nothing provides libvpx.so.3()(64bit) needed by libavcodec56-2.8.6-55.1.x86_64 nothing provides libgnutls.so.30()(64bit) needed by libavformat56-2.8.6-55.1.x86_64 nothing provides liblzma.so.5(XZ_5.0)(64bit) needed by gstreamer-plugins-libav-1.6.1-2.1.x86_64 Is it just a matter of finding the right repositories? Can anyone point me in the right direction? -- Thanks! Rich

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Next Meeting Feb. 11th 2016: Topic: ELK Location: Atwater-Kent Room 232
by Tim Keller 03 Feb '16

03 Feb '16

Hey Gang, Here's the details for our next meeting! Please NOTE THE LOCATION CHANGE! Date & Time: Feb. 11th 2016 @ 7pm Location: Atwater-Kent Room 232 Topic: ELK Presenter: Tim Keller ELK is an acronym that stands for "Elastisearch Logstash Kibana". It's platform that lets you gather data, search it and then create dashboards to display it. A good example might be having a single place that you can graph out the trends of disk usage across all the machines in your data center. I'm going to talk about setting up an elastic node, deploying logstasher and creating dashboards using kibana (and possibly grafana) Refreshments and snacks will be supplied and we'll have pizza at Tech afterwards to continue the conversation. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Talk on ELK?
by Eric Martin 28 Jan '16

28 Jan '16

I'm down. On Wednesday, January 27, 2016, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Definitely yes. > > On January 27, 2016 3:22:00 PM EST, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','turbofx(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: >> >> Would people be interesting in me doing a talk on Elastasearch / LogStash >> / Kibana (ELK) with some graphana fun through in for good measure? >> >> I spoke with my buddy Nick about doing a crypto talk but he's going to be >> too busy in Feb. to do it. >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org');> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile

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Re: [Wlug] Talk on ELK?
by Frank Sweetser 27 Jan '16

27 Jan '16

Definitely yes. On January 27, 2016 3:22:00 PM EST, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Would people be interesting in me doing a talk on Elastasearch / >LogStash / >Kibana (ELK) with some graphana fun through in for good measure? > >I spoke with my buddy Nick about doing a crypto talk but he's going to >be >too busy in Feb. to do it. > >Thanks, >Tim. > >-- >I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >constituents as "consumers". > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Re: [Wlug] Talk on ELK?
by Chuck Anderson 27 Jan '16

27 Jan '16

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 03:22:00PM -0500, Tim Keller wrote: > Would people be interesting in me doing a talk on Elastasearch / LogStash / > Kibana (ELK) with some graphana fun through in for good measure? Yes please.

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Talk on ELK?
by Tim Keller 27 Jan '16

27 Jan '16

Would people be interesting in me doing a talk on Elastasearch / LogStash / Kibana (ELK) with some graphana fun through in for good measure? I spoke with my buddy Nick about doing a crypto talk but he's going to be too busy in Feb. to do it. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Sun Ultra 1 for sale - talk to Ken Jones
by John Stoffel 25 Jan '16

25 Jan '16

Ken was having problems posting and asked me to do so. ------- start of forwarded message ------- From: "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)employees.org> To: "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)employees.org>, "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> Subject: Re: OKAY, I give up Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 17:33:36 -0500 Sorry, forgot to mention that the display is working. I fixed that below. From: Ken Jones Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 5:27 PM To: John Stoffel Subject: OKAY, I give up John, Please forward this to WLUG. It keeps rejecting my messages. WLUG members: I have two not working SUN ULTA1 1995 machines to give away. Included is a third working(?) power supply. Also I have a good display, key board and mouse. SUN_Machine If I can not give them away, I am forced to trash them.... Ken Jones Fitchburg, MA kjones(a)employees.org 978 345-2176 ------- end of forwarded message -------

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Re: [Wlug] My SUN ULTRA1 machine.
by John Stoffel 21 Jan '16

21 Jan '16

Ken> Here’s some details about my SUN ULTRA 1. A fun machine, well built. But old............ :-) Ken> But first a detail about me. I am 80 years old. That which I Ken> knew for sure back then I don’t know any more... sigh. I’d hate Ken> to trash this old friend. The screen shot dates back to when it Ken> worked. Heh. I'm losing it too, at least according to the eye rolls from my kids. Ken> SUN_MachineSUN-oldsda2_beginning Ken> The ID’s on the case are Ken> PN 600-3942-01 Ken> SN 620F1727 Ken> SVCd A11-170 Ken> The ID’s on the keyboard are Ken> SUN FCC ID C9SKB8703 Ken> N860-8703-T010 060 Ken> With the power supply unattached the fan flutters when the (1) Ken> button is pushed. This makes no sense to me. If there's no power... how is the sucker moving when you hit the button? Can you just pull the cover off the system, unplug *everything* execpt the power cord and press the power button on the front? You might need to hit the power switch on the back... trying to remember if it was a toggle, or a hard on/off switch. The U2 has a toggle... U5/U10 is hard on/off. Cannot remember the U1 switch. Sorry. Ebay to the rescue! It's a toggle switch on the back for power. No front panel power switch. Anyway, with the power connected and the power switch pressed, what happens? Does the CPU fan spin? If not, you're going to need to replace it first off. If the fan wiggles but does not spin when you power on the system, try reaching in and giving it a twist, it might then start spinning, but not likely. You should hear some beeps and boops at this point, time to dig up old manuals and see what they say for trouble shooting. But honestly, just toss it and get a BeagleBone of Raspberry Pi to play with instead. More memory and cpu speed for sure. :-) Ken> With the whole machine together with the key board attached, it Ken> goes ‘beep’ while some lights flash then nothing..... Does the keyboard flash when this happens? I assume you're trying this with the keyboard/mouse plugged into the system?

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Re: [Wlug] My "modern" FEDORA is working fine.
by Eric Martin 21 Jan '16

21 Jan '16

I have a bit of experience too, and I think I have a bunch of connectors. Let me know if you want me to bring a few. On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net <javascript:;>> > writes: > > Andy> On 01/20/2016 03:48 PM, Ken Jones wrote: > >> Here’a shot of the GIMP. Andy, Is there anyone around who might know > >> the SUN ULTRA!? When I power up a bell rings and the lights flash then > >> nothing...... It has a reworked power supply installed this morning. > >> PACMAN_FEDORA_GIMP > >> Ken > > Andy> Sorry, Ken, I don't know of anybody, off hand, that > knows/knew/remembers > Andy> the Sun Ultra. > > Which model Ultra? I spent alot of time on the Ultra 1 140/170 > models, Ultra 2 (still got one running at work!), along with Ultra > 5/10 and newer. You need to provide more details on the exact model, > and also let us know what other elements the system has in it. > > Do you have it on a serial console or a monitor? Finding those old > Sun 13W3 monitor connectors is a pain, though I probably have some > kicking around to goto VGA if I look hard enough. > > For the Ultra 1 series, make sure the CPU fan spins. They had a heck > of a time with them dying and then overheating. > > The Ultra 2 is a slightly simpler beast, but I'd just pull one of the > two procesors and all but two sticks of memory. As I recall, you want > it in some certain slot order, not right next to each other. > > Pull the disks, they're not needed at this point, you want to see what > the BIOS shows on bootup first. And if you don't have a monitor and > keyboard hooked up, then you will want a 9600 serial connection. > > John > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <javascript:;> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile

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Re: [Wlug] My "modern" FEDORA is working fine.
by John Stoffel 21 Jan '16

21 Jan '16

>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> writes: Andy> On 01/20/2016 03:48 PM, Ken Jones wrote: >> Here’a shot of the GIMP. Andy, Is there anyone around who might know >> the SUN ULTRA!? When I power up a bell rings and the lights flash then >> nothing...... It has a reworked power supply installed this morning. >> PACMAN_FEDORA_GIMP >> Ken Andy> Sorry, Ken, I don't know of anybody, off hand, that knows/knew/remembers Andy> the Sun Ultra. Which model Ultra? I spent alot of time on the Ultra 1 140/170 models, Ultra 2 (still got one running at work!), along with Ultra 5/10 and newer. You need to provide more details on the exact model, and also let us know what other elements the system has in it. Do you have it on a serial console or a monitor? Finding those old Sun 13W3 monitor connectors is a pain, though I probably have some kicking around to goto VGA if I look hard enough. For the Ultra 1 series, make sure the CPU fan spins. They had a heck of a time with them dying and then overheating. The Ultra 2 is a slightly simpler beast, but I'd just pull one of the two procesors and all but two sticks of memory. As I recall, you want it in some certain slot order, not right next to each other. Pull the disks, they're not needed at this point, you want to see what the BIOS shows on bootup first. And if you don't have a monitor and keyboard hooked up, then you will want a 9600 serial connection. John

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Re: [Wlug] My "modern" FEDORA is working fine.
by Andy Stewart 20 Jan '16

20 Jan '16

On 01/20/2016 03:48 PM, Ken Jones wrote: > Here’a shot of the GIMP. Andy, Is there anyone around who might know > the SUN ULTRA!? When I power up a bell rings and the lights flash then > nothing...... It has a reworked power supply installed this morning. > PACMAN_FEDORA_GIMP > Ken Sorry, Ken, I don't know of anybody, off hand, that knows/knew/remembers the Sun Ultra. Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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LOCATION CHANGE: WLUG Meeting Jan. 14th @7pm WPI Rec Center Class of '61 Meeting Room
by Chuck Anderson 14 Jan '16

14 Jan '16

Frank tells me he booked the same location as last month: WPI Sports and Recreation Center room 412 - Class of '61 Meeting Room So don't go to the Campus Center, no one will be there! On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 09:30:43AM -0500, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Sorry for the late email, it's been hectic at my end of things. > > Here are the facts! > Date & Time: January 17th, 2016 @ 7PM > Location: WPI Student Center Mid Century Room (rm 331) > Topic: None* > > *There's currently no topic ... I contemplated talking, but never got stuff > together. > > Due to a scheduling conflict, I'll be unable to attend... so if someone > else would like to step up for snacks and refreshments that would be quite > helpful. > > I know people had a busy holidays, so my plan *was* for this to just be a > general meeting anyway. We can get our heads around what we'd like for > speakers for the coming year. > > My hope is to get my buddy Nick to do a deep dive talk about encryption in > February. > I know Greg had mentioned speaking about setting up a radio station. > Please submit any suggestions! > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- - Chuck (0 Days until IPv4 depletion: http://ipv4depletion.com/)

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WLUG Meeting Jan. 14th @7pm WPI Mid century Room (rm 331)
by Tim Keller 12 Jan '16

12 Jan '16

Hey Gang, Sorry for the late email, it's been hectic at my end of things. Here are the facts! Date & Time: January 17th, 2016 @ 7PM Location: WPI Student Center Mid Century Room (rm 331) Topic: None* *There's currently no topic ... I contemplated talking, but never got stuff together. Due to a scheduling conflict, I'll be unable to attend... so if someone else would like to step up for snacks and refreshments that would be quite helpful. I know people had a busy holidays, so my plan *was* for this to just be a general meeting anyway. We can get our heads around what we'd like for speakers for the coming year. My hope is to get my buddy Nick to do a deep dive talk about encryption in February. I know Greg had mentioned speaking about setting up a radio station. Please submit any suggestions! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Audio processing question
by John Stoffel 28 Dec '15

28 Dec '15

Andy> I thought so, too, but I cannot find a menu option or a command Andy> line option to do it. Am I blind? :-) I'm running dream Andy> version 2.1.1-svn808. In the SNAPSHOTS directory on sf.net, I Andy> see dream-935 from Nov 2014 which is more recent but when I Andy> compile it, it segfaults upon execution. Hmm... maybe they have some newer code elsewhere? I'm not sure how I could help at this point, beyond trying to compile the code with debug info and then pulling it into gdb to get a backtrace. I suspect you'll have to ask on the mailing list for dream, since what I see on the web page implies that network stuff works... but not sure. I would think that dream could just pull the data directly from the radio itself, to cut out the middle man here.

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Re: [Wlug] Audio processing question
by Andy Stewart 28 Dec '15

28 Dec '15

On 12/27/2015 05:38 PM, John Stoffel wrote: >>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> writes: > > Andy> Closer: > > Andy> nc -l -u 65535 | sox -r 48k -b 16 -c 1 -L -e signed -t raw - \ > Andy> -t wav radio.wav > > Andy> ...but....the mondiale decoder doesn't like reading radio.wav: > > Andy> sox WARN wav: Length in output .wav header will be wrong since can't > Andy> seek to fix it.. > > Andy> Still plugging away...... > > So what mondiale decoder are you using, dream from sourceforge? I've > just poked at the dream web page and it looks like it's got network > input support, so I'm wondering if you cant' get the data from gprx -> > nc -> dream -> speakers > > to do the decoding. Hi John, I thought so, too, but I cannot find a menu option or a command line option to do it. Am I blind? :-) I'm running dream version 2.1.1-svn808. In the SNAPSHOTS directory on sf.net, I see dream-935 from Nov 2014 which is more recent but when I compile it, it segfaults upon execution. Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Re: [Wlug] Audio processing question
by John Stoffel 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> writes: Andy> Closer: Andy> nc -l -u 65535 | sox -r 48k -b 16 -c 1 -L -e signed -t raw - \ Andy> -t wav radio.wav Andy> ...but....the mondiale decoder doesn't like reading radio.wav: Andy> sox WARN wav: Length in output .wav header will be wrong since can't Andy> seek to fix it.. Andy> Still plugging away...... So what mondiale decoder are you using, dream from sourceforge? I've just poked at the dream web page and it looks like it's got network input support, so I'm wondering if you cant' get the data from gprx -> nc -> dream -> speakers to do the decoding. John

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Re: [Wlug] Audio processing question
by Andy Stewart 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

On 12/27/2015 01:01 PM, Andy Stewart wrote: > Here's a command that works, to give you a feel for the data formats > involved: > > gqrx outputs RAW audio data to UDP port 65535 > netcat -l -u 65535 | aplay -r 48k -f S16_LE -t raw -c 1 > correct audio is heard > > Now, I want to get that into a WAV file or perhaps a fifo from which the > mondiale decoder could get its input. > > netcat -l -u 65535 | sox ??? > > The man page for sox is not for the faint of heart, and I'm not an audio > expert. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks! > > Andy > Closer: nc -l -u 65535 | sox -r 48k -b 16 -c 1 -L -e signed -t raw - \ -t wav radio.wav ...but....the mondiale decoder doesn't like reading radio.wav: sox WARN wav: Length in output .wav header will be wrong since can't seek to fix it.. Still plugging away...... Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Re: [Wlug] Audio processing question
by Andy Stewart 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

On 12/26/2015 07:32 PM, Andy Stewart wrote: > On 12/26/2015 06:17 PM, Frank Sweetser wrote: >> I'd bet that you could use netcat do listen ona socket and dump the results directly to a file. OK, I'm getting closer. It turns out that the UDP audio stream is RAW. The "mondiale decoder" wants to see WAV data. I think I need the correct incantation of the sox command. Here's a command that works, to give you a feel for the data formats involved: gqrx outputs RAW audio data to UDP port 65535 netcat -l -u 65535 | aplay -r 48k -f S16_LE -t raw -c 1 correct audio is heard Now, I want to get that into a WAV file or perhaps a fifo from which the mondiale decoder could get its input. netcat -l -u 65535 | sox ??? The man page for sox is not for the faint of heart, and I'm not an audio expert. Any ideas? Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Re: [Wlug] Audio processing question
by John Stoffel 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> writes: Andy> What I want to do is listen to the DRM broadcast in real time. I was Andy> unsuccessful in getting Dream to read the WAV file while it was being Andy> written. >> Andy> Does anybody have any suggestions as to how this could be done? >> >> Have you tried setting up a FIFO that each program opens and treats as >> a WAV file? That might be the way to have them talk to each other. >> >>> mkfifo /var/tmp/radio >>> gqrx --output /var/tmp/radio >>> mondiale --input /var/tmp/radio >> >> though I havent' a clue what the two programs do at the commmand >> level. Andy> That is an interesting idea but gqrx doesn't let the user pick a Andy> file name for saving the WAV audio. It creates a file name by Andy> an internal algorithm. All I can do is pick the directory in Andy> which that file is saved. Andy> Is there a way that I can tie a file to a UDP port? gqrx will Andy> output an audio stream on a UDP port. If I can make that look Andy> like a file, perhaps "mondiale" will consume it. Hmm... maybe using 'nc' (netcat) to listen to that UDP port and then feed the info into either the FIFO or directly into the other tool? Are they open source? It might just be time to hack some source to do what you want... I also think the JACK audio thing might work, where you setup some virtual Mics and Feeds to connect the two programs together. John

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Re: [Wlug] Audio processing question
by Andy Stewart 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

On 12/26/2015 06:17 PM, Frank Sweetser wrote: > I'd bet that you could use netcat do listen ona socket and dump the results directly to a file. > I can't try it again until the DRM station broadcasts when I can receive it. I knew I should have recorded the I and Q when I was listening to it! I think this will work (not literally but you get the idea): mkfifo /tmp/radio gqrx > udp:65535 netcat -l -u 65535 > /tmp/radio "mondiale decoder" < /tmp/radio I'll let you know if this works. I'm also open to other suggestions, and still looking at JACK. Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Re: [Wlug] Audio processing question
by Frank Sweetser 26 Dec '15

26 Dec '15

I'd bet that you could use netcat do listen ona socket and dump the results directly to a file. On December 26, 2015 6:15:31 PM EST, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > >Is there a way that I can tie a file to a UDP port? gqrx will output >an >audio stream on a UDP port. If I can make that look like a file, >perhaps "mondiale" will consume it. > >Andy -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Re: [Wlug] Audio processing question
by Andy Stewart 26 Dec '15

26 Dec '15

On 12/26/2015 04:13 PM, Steve Revilak wrote: >> Hi gang, >> >> I think I need something like the Virtual audio cable, but I'd like to >> know if there are other possibilities. >> >> I have two audio programs that I want to talk to each other: gqrx and >> Dream. > [..] > > > Jack might be worth a try. http://www.jackaudio.org/ > > Steve Thanks, Steve, I'm looking at it but I'm not finding usage examples that tie together two programs. I'll keep looking. Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Re: [Wlug] Audio processing question
by Andy Stewart 26 Dec '15

26 Dec '15

On 12/26/2015 05:10 PM, John Stoffel wrote: >>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> writes: > > Andy> Hi gang, > > Andy> I think I need something like the Virtual audio cable, but I'd like to > Andy> know if there are other possibilities. > > Andy> I have two audio programs that I want to talk to each other: gqrx and > Andy> Dream. > > Andy> gqrx is a software defined radio receiver that can save its audio as a > Andy> WAV file, or it can stream audio via a UDP port. > > Andy> Dream is a digital radio mondiale (DRM) decoder. Digital radio mondiale > Andy> is a shortwave radio broadcast in a digital format. Dream can read a > Andy> WAV file, or it can read audio information from the microphone. It > Andy> outputs a rather nicely sounding radio broadcast (mono or stereo > Andy> depending on the broadcaster) with no static and no fading. > > Andy> I have succeeded in recording gqrx audio to a WAV file, and later having > Andy> Dream decode it. > > Andy> What I want to do is listen to the DRM broadcast in real time. I was > Andy> unsuccessful in getting Dream to read the WAV file while it was being > Andy> written. > > Andy> Does anybody have any suggestions as to how this could be done? > > Have you tried setting up a FIFO that each program opens and treats as > a WAV file? That might be the way to have them talk to each other. > >> mkfifo /var/tmp/radio >> gqrx --output /var/tmp/radio >> mondiale --input /var/tmp/radio > > though I havent' a clue what the two programs do at the commmand > level. Hi John, That is an interesting idea but gqrx doesn't let the user pick a file name for saving the WAV audio. It creates a file name by an internal algorithm. All I can do is pick the directory in which that file is saved. Is there a way that I can tie a file to a UDP port? gqrx will output an audio stream on a UDP port. If I can make that look like a file, perhaps "mondiale" will consume it. Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Re: [Wlug] Audio processing question
by John Stoffel 26 Dec '15

26 Dec '15

>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> writes: Andy> Hi gang, Andy> I think I need something like the Virtual audio cable, but I'd like to Andy> know if there are other possibilities. Andy> I have two audio programs that I want to talk to each other: gqrx and Andy> Dream. Andy> gqrx is a software defined radio receiver that can save its audio as a Andy> WAV file, or it can stream audio via a UDP port. Andy> Dream is a digital radio mondiale (DRM) decoder. Digital radio mondiale Andy> is a shortwave radio broadcast in a digital format. Dream can read a Andy> WAV file, or it can read audio information from the microphone. It Andy> outputs a rather nicely sounding radio broadcast (mono or stereo Andy> depending on the broadcaster) with no static and no fading. Andy> I have succeeded in recording gqrx audio to a WAV file, and later having Andy> Dream decode it. Andy> What I want to do is listen to the DRM broadcast in real time. I was Andy> unsuccessful in getting Dream to read the WAV file while it was being Andy> written. Andy> Does anybody have any suggestions as to how this could be done? Have you tried setting up a FIFO that each program opens and treats as a WAV file? That might be the way to have them talk to each other. > mkfifo /var/tmp/radio > gqrx --output /var/tmp/radio > mondiale --input /var/tmp/radio though I havent' a clue what the two programs do at the commmand level.

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Re: [Wlug] Audio processing question
by Steve Revilak 26 Dec '15

26 Dec '15

>Hi gang, > >I think I need something like the Virtual audio cable, but I'd like to >know if there are other possibilities. > >I have two audio programs that I want to talk to each other: gqrx and >Dream. [..] Jack might be worth a try. http://www.jackaudio.org/ Steve

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Audio processing question
by Andy Stewart 26 Dec '15

26 Dec '15

Hi gang, I think I need something like the Virtual audio cable, but I'd like to know if there are other possibilities. I have two audio programs that I want to talk to each other: gqrx and Dream. gqrx is a software defined radio receiver that can save its audio as a WAV file, or it can stream audio via a UDP port. Dream is a digital radio mondiale (DRM) decoder. Digital radio mondiale is a shortwave radio broadcast in a digital format. Dream can read a WAV file, or it can read audio information from the microphone. It outputs a rather nicely sounding radio broadcast (mono or stereo depending on the broadcaster) with no static and no fading. I have succeeded in recording gqrx audio to a WAV file, and later having Dream decode it. What I want to do is listen to the DRM broadcast in real time. I was unsuccessful in getting Dream to read the WAV file while it was being written. Does anybody have any suggestions as to how this could be done? FYI: reception of DRM broadcasts requires an upper sideband radio receiver that is at least 10kHz wide, a decent antenna, and in my case, a DVB-T dongle and the gqrx software coupled with Dream. Thanks in advance for any help you may provide. Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Re: [Wlug] January WLUG topic... ELK / Graphite / Grafana?
by Higgins, Benjamin John 14 Dec '15

14 Dec '15

Ditto From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Eric Martin Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:05 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Subject: Re: [Wlug] January WLUG topic... ELK / Graphite / Grafana? I'm interested On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com<mailto:turbofx@gmail.com>> wrote: Talking to people last night it sounds like there's some serious interest in collecting / searching / displaying / dashboards. Since I've been working with this stuff, if people are interested I wouldn't mind giving a talk / demo, showing off elasticsearch, logstash, kalbana, graphite, grafana, etc. Are people interested? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org<mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Eric Martin

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Re: [Wlug] January WLUG topic... ELK / Graphite / Grafana?
by Eric Martin 14 Dec '15

14 Dec '15

I'm interested On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Talking to people last night it sounds like there's some serious interest > in collecting / searching / displaying / dashboards. > > Since I've been working with this stuff, if people are interested I > wouldn't mind giving a talk / demo, showing off elasticsearch, logstash, > kalbana, graphite, grafana, etc. > > Are people interested? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Eric Martin

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January WLUG topic... ELK / Graphite / Grafana?
by Tim Keller 11 Dec '15

11 Dec '15

Talking to people last night it sounds like there's some serious interest in collecting / searching / displaying / dashboards. Since I've been working with this stuff, if people are interested I wouldn't mind giving a talk / demo, showing off elasticsearch, logstash, kalbana, graphite, grafana, etc. Are people interested? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Don't forget! I didn't forget!!
by Tim Keller 11 Dec '15

11 Dec '15

Keith, Firstly, Sorry about the broken foot, that sucks! I hope your on the mend quick. Secondly, Chuck recorded the whole thing! So, while you convalesce you'll be able watch it on youtube or where we end up putting it. Thanks, Tim. On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: > Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> writes: > > > We have a lot to cover, so we'll be starting right at 7! > > I really wanted to be there. Last Saturday (5 days ago) > I fell and twisted my ankle. It's been sore, but I limped > to the coffee shop yesterday, I figured I could limp to > the WLUG meeting. > > But first I had a 4pm routine doctor appointment, I showed > him my foot, he said you should get an X-ray. > > No problem, just to be sure, they can do it in an hour. > > The X-ray techniciane said: "I'm not a doctor, so I > can't tell you anything official, but you should go > to the emergency room. I'll send the X-rays there." > > So the bottom line is I got home about 9:30 with > a cast on my broken foot. I think I'll stay here. > > See you next time. > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Don't forget! I didn't forget!!
by Keith Wright 11 Dec '15

11 Dec '15

Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> writes: > We have a lot to cover, so we'll be starting right at 7! I really wanted to be there. Last Saturday (5 days ago) I fell and twisted my ankle. It's been sore, but I limped to the coffee shop yesterday, I figured I could limp to the WLUG meeting. But first I had a 4pm routine doctor appointment, I showed him my foot, he said you should get an X-ray. No problem, just to be sure, they can do it in an hour. The X-ray techniciane said: "I'm not a doctor, so I can't tell you anything official, but you should go to the emergency room. I'll send the X-rays there." So the bottom line is I got home about 9:30 with a cast on my broken foot. I think I'll stay here. See you next time. -- Keith

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Re: [Wlug] Don't forget! Meeting tonight!! NOTE: LOCATION CHANGE!!!
by Chuck Anderson 10 Dec '15

10 Dec '15

We have a lot to cover, so we'll be starting right at 7! On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 04:52:18PM -0500, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Everybody! > > Dmitri Pal, the director of engineering at Red Hat has graciously offered > to speak about Kerberos, FreeIPA, SSSD and I'm sure a whole host of other > things! > > Here are the vitals! NOTE: THE LOCATION IS CHANGED FOR THIS MEETING!!!! > > When: December 10th, 2015 @ 7pm. > Where: Rec Center Rm. 61! (4th Floor) > Who: Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat! > What: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc. > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and as always we'll be heading to > Tech Pizza afterwards to continue the lively conversation! > > I'd also like to thank Chuck for getting this organized! > > Thanks, > Tim.

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Don't forget! Meeting tonight!! NOTE: LOCATION CHANGE!!!
by Tim Keller 10 Dec '15

10 Dec '15

Hey Everybody! Dmitri Pal, the director of engineering at Red Hat has graciously offered to speak about Kerberos, FreeIPA, SSSD and I'm sure a whole host of other things! Here are the vitals! NOTE: THE LOCATION IS CHANGED FOR THIS MEETING!!!! When: December 10th, 2015 @ 7pm. Where: Rec Center Rm. 61! (4th Floor) Who: Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat! What: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc. Refreshments and snacks will be provided and as always we'll be heading to Tech Pizza afterwards to continue the lively conversation! I'd also like to thank Chuck for getting this organized! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Dec. 10th at 7pm! NOTE: !!!!LOCATION CHANGE!!!!
by Chuck Anderson 09 Dec '15

09 Dec '15

A better description of the location is: WPI Sports and Recreation Center room 412 - Class of '61 Meeting Room 1. This is a new building as of a few years ago. It is next to Harrington Auditorium, on the hill between it and the football field. On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 03:07:19AM -0500, Robert Schwein wrote: > Ahhhh.... do you mean the "Sports and Recreation Center"? > > On 12/9/2015 3:04 AM, Robert Schwein wrote: > >The "Rec Center" is not on the WPI campus map. Can you help me > >find it? And, is room 61 really on the 4th floor? > > > >Thanks > >Bob > > > >On 12/7/2015 5:06 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > >>Hey Everybody, > >> > >>Dmitri Pal, the director of engineering at Red Hat has > >>graciously offered to speak about Kerberos, FreeIPA, SSSD and > >>I'm sure a whole host of other things! > >> > >>Here are the vitals! NOTE: THE LOCATION IS CHANGED FOR THIS MEETING!!!! > >> > >>When: December 10th, 2015 @ 7pm. > >>Where: Rec Center Rm. 61! (4th Floor) > >>Who: Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat! > >>What: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc. > >> > >>Refreshments and snacks will be provided and as always we'll be > >>heading to Tech Pizza afterwards to continue the lively > >>conversation! > >> > >>I'd also like to thank Chuck for getting this organized! > >> > >>Thanks, > >>Tim.

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Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Dec. 10th at 7pm! NOTE: !!!!LOCATION CHANGE!!!!
by Robert Schwein 09 Dec '15

09 Dec '15

The "Rec Center" is not on the WPI campus map. Can you help me find it? And, is room 61 really on the 4th floor? Thanks Bob On 12/7/2015 5:06 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Everybody, > > Dmitri Pal, the director of engineering at Red Hat has graciously > offered to speak about Kerberos, FreeIPA, SSSD and I'm sure a whole > host of other things! > > Here are the vitals! NOTE: THE LOCATION IS CHANGED FOR THIS MEETING!!!! > > When: December 10th, 2015 @ 7pm. > Where: Rec Center Rm. 61! (4th Floor) > Who: Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat! > What: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc. > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and as always we'll be > heading to Tech Pizza afterwards to continue the lively conversation! > > I'd also like to thank Chuck for getting this organized! > > Thanks, > Tim. > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Reminder: Meeting Dec. 10th at 7pm! NOTE: !!!!LOCATION CHANGE!!!!
by Tim Keller 07 Dec '15

07 Dec '15

Hey Everybody, Dmitri Pal, the director of engineering at Red Hat has graciously offered to speak about Kerberos, FreeIPA, SSSD and I'm sure a whole host of other things! Here are the vitals! NOTE: THE LOCATION IS CHANGED FOR THIS MEETING!!!! When: December 10th, 2015 @ 7pm. Where: Rec Center Rm. 61! (4th Floor) Who: Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat! What: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc. Refreshments and snacks will be provided and as always we'll be heading to Tech Pizza afterwards to continue the lively conversation! I'd also like to thank Chuck for getting this organized! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Dec. 10th WLUG Meeting! Dmitri Pal will be speaking about FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc.
by Tim Keller 01 Dec '15

01 Dec '15

Hey Everybody, Dmitri Pal, the director of engineering at Red Hat has graciously offered to speak about Kerberos, FreeIPA, SSSD and I'm sure a whole host of other things! Here are the vitals! NOTE: THE LOCATION IS CHANGED FOR THIS MEETING!!!! When: December 10th, 2015 @ 7pm. Where: Rec Center Rm. 61! Who: Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat! What: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc. Refreshments and snacks will be provided and as always we'll be heading to Tech Pizza afterwards to continue the lively conversation! I'd also like to thank Chuck for getting this organized! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc.
by Chuck Anderson 01 Dec '15

01 Dec '15

Sorry, I keep typing the wrong date. It is Thursday December 10th. I'm finalizing with Dmitri now. On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 05:50:07PM -0500, James Gray wrote: > This will be on December 10th? I only ask to confirm as the subject line of > the email mentions the 12th. > > Sounds like some great topics! > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Chuck, > > > > Thanks for organizing this with Dmitri! I'll send out the meeting notice > > asap! > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:00 AM, thinkbrown(a)gmail.com < > > thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I also think that FreeIPA and Kerberos is the best combo there > >> > >> Logan > >> On Nov 30, 2015 10:59 AM, "Higgins, Benjamin John" <bjhiggins(a)wpi.edu> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Chuck: > >>> Wow - a meeting my wife will let me attend :) I also think " FreeIPA + > >>> Kerberos" is likely the best topic. Thanks! > >>> > >>> --b > >>> -- > >>> Benjamin J. Higgins ('97), JNCIA-Junos | bjhiggins(a)wpi.edu > >>> Network Engineer | Office 508.831.4860 > >>> Worcester Polytechnic Institute | Cell 508.713.1739 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > >>> Behalf Of Chuck Anderson > >>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:54 AM > >>> To: wlug(a)wlug.org > >>> Subject: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, > >>> etc. > >>> > >>> I have an offer from Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat, Inc., > >>> to come to WLUG on December 10 and give a talk on Identity Management. > >>> > >>> He asked which of the following topics people would be interested in: > >>> > >>> "FreeIPA - I go over problem space and talk about what IPA does and > >>> how it solves the problems > >>> - about an hour with Q&A. > >>> > >>> AD [Microsoft Active Directory] integration I can give an overview > >>> of the AD integration options and talk about best practices there > >>> - about an hour with Q&A. > >>> > >>> Application integration - is about how to build applications > >>> integrated with different authentication methods out of box > >>> - 40-50 min with Q&A. > >>> > >>> I can combine. > >>> > >>> I also can talk about Kerberos and explain how it works and how it > >>> can be used for SSO [Single Sign-On]." > >>> > >>> I was thinking FreeIPA + Kerberos which would fit nicely into our usual > >>> 2 hour meeting slot and provide a nice introduction to the topic, but let > >>> me know if the other topics are of more interest. Time is running short, > >>> so respond quickly!

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Re: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc.
by Higgins, Benjamin John 01 Dec '15

01 Dec '15

She knows exactly what a Raspberry Pi is and why I'm not allowed to buy any more ;) Perhaps if I get my pieces and parts soon enough - I can show off my DeskArcade powered by Raspberry Pi 2... Or the NetOps monitoring screens when I settle on a better platform than home coded... --b -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Keith Wright Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:59 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Cc: wlug(a)wlug.org; wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc. "Higgins, Benjamin John" <bjhiggins(a)WPI.EDU> writes: > Wow - a meeting my wife will let me attend :) You have a very strict and jealous wife. Maybe if you explained that Raspberry Pi is just a computer, she would let you attend more meetings. > I also think " FreeIPA + Kerberos" is likely the best topic. Thanks! 1+ I sort of know what Kerberos is. Something installed it on one (but only one) of my computers which means when I log on it takes a minute to time out and say: Cannot resolve network address for KDC in requested realm while getting initial credentials before letting me in. I've thought of asking why, but don't care enough since it eventually works. Maybe I'll learn something. I know that IP means Internet Protocol, but what is the A? http://www.freeipa.org/ does not seem to say, but Wikipedia spells it out. Identity - Policy - Audit Some sort of GUI front end to Kerberos? I'm not sure I want it, but I should know what it is if only so I can avoid it. I would listen to that. -- Keith _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc.
by Keith Wright 30 Nov '15

30 Nov '15

"Higgins, Benjamin John" <bjhiggins(a)WPI.EDU> writes: > Wow - a meeting my wife will let me attend :) You have a very strict and jealous wife. Maybe if you explained that Raspberry Pi is just a computer, she would let you attend more meetings. > I also think " FreeIPA + Kerberos" is likely the best topic. Thanks! 1+ I sort of know what Kerberos is. Something installed it on one (but only one) of my computers which means when I log on it takes a minute to time out and say: Cannot resolve network address for KDC in requested realm while getting initial credentials before letting me in. I've thought of asking why, but don't care enough since it eventually works. Maybe I'll learn something. I know that IP means Internet Protocol, but what is the A? http://www.freeipa.org/ does not seem to say, but Wikipedia spells it out. Identity - Policy - Audit Some sort of GUI front end to Kerberos? I'm not sure I want it, but I should know what it is if only so I can avoid it. I would listen to that. -- Keith

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Re: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc.
by James Gray 30 Nov '15

30 Nov '15

This will be on December 10th? I only ask to confirm as the subject line of the email mentions the 12th. Sounds like some great topics! On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Chuck, > > Thanks for organizing this with Dmitri! I'll send out the meeting notice > asap! > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:00 AM, thinkbrown(a)gmail.com < > thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I also think that FreeIPA and Kerberos is the best combo there >> >> Logan >> On Nov 30, 2015 10:59 AM, "Higgins, Benjamin John" <bjhiggins(a)wpi.edu> >> wrote: >> >>> Chuck: >>> Wow - a meeting my wife will let me attend :) I also think " FreeIPA + >>> Kerberos" is likely the best topic. Thanks! >>> >>> --b >>> -- >>> Benjamin J. Higgins ('97), JNCIA-Junos | bjhiggins(a)wpi.edu >>> Network Engineer | Office 508.831.4860 >>> Worcester Polytechnic Institute | Cell 508.713.1739 >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On >>> Behalf Of Chuck Anderson >>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:54 AM >>> To: wlug(a)wlug.org >>> Subject: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, >>> etc. >>> >>> I have an offer from Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat, Inc., >>> to come to WLUG on December 10 and give a talk on Identity Management. >>> >>> He asked which of the following topics people would be interested in: >>> >>> "FreeIPA - I go over problem space and talk about what IPA does and >>> how it solves the problems >>> - about an hour with Q&A. >>> >>> AD [Microsoft Active Directory] integration I can give an overview >>> of the AD integration options and talk about best practices there >>> - about an hour with Q&A. >>> >>> Application integration - is about how to build applications >>> integrated with different authentication methods out of box >>> - 40-50 min with Q&A. >>> >>> I can combine. >>> >>> I also can talk about Kerberos and explain how it works and how it >>> can be used for SSO [Single Sign-On]." >>> >>> I was thinking FreeIPA + Kerberos which would fit nicely into our usual >>> 2 hour meeting slot and provide a nice introduction to the topic, but let >>> me know if the other topics are of more interest. Time is running short, >>> so respond quickly! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Chuck >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc.
by Tim Keller 30 Nov '15

30 Nov '15

Chuck, Thanks for organizing this with Dmitri! I'll send out the meeting notice asap! Thanks, Tim. On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:00 AM, thinkbrown(a)gmail.com <thinkbrown(a)gmail.com > wrote: > I also think that FreeIPA and Kerberos is the best combo there > > Logan > On Nov 30, 2015 10:59 AM, "Higgins, Benjamin John" <bjhiggins(a)wpi.edu> > wrote: > >> Chuck: >> Wow - a meeting my wife will let me attend :) I also think " FreeIPA + >> Kerberos" is likely the best topic. Thanks! >> >> --b >> -- >> Benjamin J. Higgins ('97), JNCIA-Junos | bjhiggins(a)wpi.edu >> Network Engineer | Office 508.831.4860 >> Worcester Polytechnic Institute | Cell 508.713.1739 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On >> Behalf Of Chuck Anderson >> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:54 AM >> To: wlug(a)wlug.org >> Subject: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc. >> >> I have an offer from Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat, Inc., >> to come to WLUG on December 10 and give a talk on Identity Management. >> >> He asked which of the following topics people would be interested in: >> >> "FreeIPA - I go over problem space and talk about what IPA does and >> how it solves the problems >> - about an hour with Q&A. >> >> AD [Microsoft Active Directory] integration I can give an overview >> of the AD integration options and talk about best practices there >> - about an hour with Q&A. >> >> Application integration - is about how to build applications >> integrated with different authentication methods out of box >> - 40-50 min with Q&A. >> >> I can combine. >> >> I also can talk about Kerberos and explain how it works and how it >> can be used for SSO [Single Sign-On]." >> >> I was thinking FreeIPA + Kerberos which would fit nicely into our usual 2 >> hour meeting slot and provide a nice introduction to the topic, but let me >> know if the other topics are of more interest. Time is running short, so >> respond quickly! >> >> Thanks, >> Chuck >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 145, Issue 3
by Jonathan Lettvin 30 Nov '15

30 Nov '15

Always fun to see guests and new/unfamiliar methods. BTW: Would the group be interested in me presenting my close-to-ready new site? If so, let's choose a date. I could use some pointers on certificates, authentication, SSL, and AJAX to establish two-way persistent communication. On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc. > (Chuck Anderson) > 2. Re: Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, > etc. (Higgins, Benjamin John) > 3. Re: Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, > etc. (David Glaser) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 10:54:29 -0500 > From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, > etc. > To: wlug(a)wlug.org > Message-ID: <20151130155429.GE5879(a)angus.ind.wpi.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I have an offer from Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat, > Inc., to come to WLUG on December 10 and give a talk on Identity > Management. > > He asked which of the following topics people would be interested in: > > "FreeIPA - I go over problem space and talk about what IPA does and > how it solves the problems > - about an hour with Q&A. > > AD [Microsoft Active Directory] integration I can give an overview > of the AD integration options and talk about best practices there > - about an hour with Q&A. > > Application integration - is about how to build applications > integrated with different authentication methods out of box > - 40-50 min with Q&A. > > I can combine. > > I also can talk about Kerberos and explain how it works and how it > can be used for SSO [Single Sign-On]." > > I was thinking FreeIPA + Kerberos which would fit nicely into our > usual 2 hour meeting slot and provide a nice introduction to the > topic, but let me know if the other topics are of more interest. Time > is running short, so respond quickly! > > Thanks, > Chuck > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:57:58 +0000 > From: "Higgins, Benjamin John" <bjhiggins(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, > Kerberos, etc. > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>, "wlug(a)wlug.org" > <wlug(a)wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <B68D77842E1BAC46A03724791FAFF9DF6B9EE48E(a)S281.admin.wpi.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Chuck: > Wow - a meeting my wife will let me attend :) I also think " FreeIPA + > Kerberos" is likely the best topic. Thanks! > > --b > -- > Benjamin J. Higgins ('97), JNCIA-Junos | bjhiggins(a)wpi.edu > Network Engineer | Office 508.831.4860 > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | Cell 508.713.1739 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Chuck Anderson > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:54 AM > To: wlug(a)wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc. > > I have an offer from Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat, Inc., to > come to WLUG on December 10 and give a talk on Identity Management. > > He asked which of the following topics people would be interested in: > > "FreeIPA - I go over problem space and talk about what IPA does and > how it solves the problems > - about an hour with Q&A. > > AD [Microsoft Active Directory] integration I can give an overview > of the AD integration options and talk about best practices there > - about an hour with Q&A. > > Application integration - is about how to build applications > integrated with different authentication methods out of box > - 40-50 min with Q&A. > > I can combine. > > I also can talk about Kerberos and explain how it works and how it > can be used for SSO [Single Sign-On]." > > I was thinking FreeIPA + Kerberos which would fit nicely into our usual 2 > hour meeting slot and provide a nice introduction to the topic, but let me > know if the other topics are of more interest. Time is running short, so > respond quickly! > > Thanks, > Chuck > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 11:08:33 -0500 > From: David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, > Kerberos, etc. > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <565C7481.2000107(a)glaserresearch.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Sounds really good to me also. > > -David > > On 11/30/2015 10:57 AM, Higgins, Benjamin John wrote: > > Chuck: > > Wow - a meeting my wife will let me attend :) I also think " FreeIPA + > Kerberos" is likely the best topic. Thanks! > > > > --b > > -- > > Benjamin J. Higgins ('97), JNCIA-Junos | bjhiggins(a)wpi.edu > > Network Engineer | Office 508.831.4860 > > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | Cell 508.713.1739 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Chuck Anderson > > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:54 AM > > To: wlug(a)wlug.org > > Subject: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, > etc. > > > > I have an offer from Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat, Inc., > to come to WLUG on December 10 and give a talk on Identity Management. > > > > He asked which of the following topics people would be interested in: > > > > "FreeIPA - I go over problem space and talk about what IPA does and > > how it solves the problems > > - about an hour with Q&A. > > > > AD [Microsoft Active Directory] integration I can give an overview > > of the AD integration options and talk about best practices there > > - about an hour with Q&A. > > > > Application integration - is about how to build applications > > integrated with different authentication methods out of box > > - 40-50 min with Q&A. > > > > I can combine. > > > > I also can talk about Kerberos and explain how it works and how it > > can be used for SSO [Single Sign-On]." > > > > I was thinking FreeIPA + Kerberos which would fit nicely into our usual > 2 hour meeting slot and provide a nice introduction to the topic, but let > me know if the other topics are of more interest. Time is running short, > so respond quickly! > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20151130/94e76802/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 145, Issue 3 > ************************************ > -- This e-mail is from Jonathan D. Lettvin, and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. 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Re: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc.
by David Glaser 30 Nov '15

30 Nov '15

Sounds really good to me also. -David On 11/30/2015 10:57 AM, Higgins, Benjamin John wrote: > Chuck: > Wow - a meeting my wife will let me attend :) I also think " FreeIPA + Kerberos" is likely the best topic. Thanks! > > --b > -- > Benjamin J. Higgins ('97), JNCIA-Junos | bjhiggins(a)wpi.edu > Network Engineer | Office 508.831.4860 > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | Cell 508.713.1739 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:54 AM > To: wlug(a)wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc. > > I have an offer from Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat, Inc., to come to WLUG on December 10 and give a talk on Identity Management. > > He asked which of the following topics people would be interested in: > > "FreeIPA - I go over problem space and talk about what IPA does and > how it solves the problems > - about an hour with Q&A. > > AD [Microsoft Active Directory] integration I can give an overview > of the AD integration options and talk about best practices there > - about an hour with Q&A. > > Application integration - is about how to build applications > integrated with different authentication methods out of box > - 40-50 min with Q&A. > > I can combine. > > I also can talk about Kerberos and explain how it works and how it > can be used for SSO [Single Sign-On]." > > I was thinking FreeIPA + Kerberos which would fit nicely into our usual 2 hour meeting slot and provide a nice introduction to the topic, but let me know if the other topics are of more interest. Time is running short, so respond quickly! > > Thanks, > Chuck > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc.
by thinkbrown＠gmail.com 30 Nov '15

30 Nov '15

I also think that FreeIPA and Kerberos is the best combo there Logan On Nov 30, 2015 10:59 AM, "Higgins, Benjamin John" <bjhiggins(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Chuck: > Wow - a meeting my wife will let me attend :) I also think " FreeIPA + > Kerberos" is likely the best topic. Thanks! > > --b > -- > Benjamin J. Higgins ('97), JNCIA-Junos | bjhiggins(a)wpi.edu > Network Engineer | Office 508.831.4860 > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | Cell 508.713.1739 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Chuck Anderson > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:54 AM > To: wlug(a)wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc. > > I have an offer from Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat, Inc., to > come to WLUG on December 10 and give a talk on Identity Management. > > He asked which of the following topics people would be interested in: > > "FreeIPA - I go over problem space and talk about what IPA does and > how it solves the problems > - about an hour with Q&A. > > AD [Microsoft Active Directory] integration I can give an overview > of the AD integration options and talk about best practices there > - about an hour with Q&A. > > Application integration - is about how to build applications > integrated with different authentication methods out of box > - 40-50 min with Q&A. > > I can combine. > > I also can talk about Kerberos and explain how it works and how it > can be used for SSO [Single Sign-On]." > > I was thinking FreeIPA + Kerberos which would fit nicely into our usual 2 > hour meeting slot and provide a nice introduction to the topic, but let me > know if the other topics are of more interest. Time is running short, so > respond quickly! > > Thanks, > Chuck > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc.
by Higgins, Benjamin John 30 Nov '15

30 Nov '15

Chuck: Wow - a meeting my wife will let me attend :) I also think " FreeIPA + Kerberos" is likely the best topic. Thanks! --b -- Benjamin J. Higgins ('97), JNCIA-Junos | bjhiggins(a)wpi.edu Network Engineer | Office 508.831.4860 Worcester Polytechnic Institute | Cell 508.713.1739 -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:54 AM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc. I have an offer from Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat, Inc., to come to WLUG on December 10 and give a talk on Identity Management. He asked which of the following topics people would be interested in: "FreeIPA - I go over problem space and talk about what IPA does and how it solves the problems - about an hour with Q&A. AD [Microsoft Active Directory] integration I can give an overview of the AD integration options and talk about best practices there - about an hour with Q&A. Application integration - is about how to build applications integrated with different authentication methods out of box - 40-50 min with Q&A. I can combine. I also can talk about Kerberos and explain how it works and how it can be used for SSO [Single Sign-On]." I was thinking FreeIPA + Kerberos which would fit nicely into our usual 2 hour meeting slot and provide a nice introduction to the topic, but let me know if the other topics are of more interest. Time is running short, so respond quickly! Thanks, Chuck _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Dec 12: Identity Management: FreeIPA, SSSD, Kerberos, etc.
by Chuck Anderson 30 Nov '15

30 Nov '15

I have an offer from Dmitri Pal, Engineering Director at Red Hat, Inc., to come to WLUG on December 10 and give a talk on Identity Management. He asked which of the following topics people would be interested in: "FreeIPA - I go over problem space and talk about what IPA does and how it solves the problems - about an hour with Q&A. AD [Microsoft Active Directory] integration I can give an overview of the AD integration options and talk about best practices there - about an hour with Q&A. Application integration - is about how to build applications integrated with different authentication methods out of box - 40-50 min with Q&A. I can combine. I also can talk about Kerberos and explain how it works and how it can be used for SSO [Single Sign-On]." I was thinking FreeIPA + Kerberos which would fit nicely into our usual 2 hour meeting slot and provide a nice introduction to the topic, but let me know if the other topics are of more interest. Time is running short, so respond quickly! Thanks, Chuck

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Reminder! WLUG Meeting tomorrow! Topic: ownCloud @ 7pm WPI Student Center (rm 331)
by Tim Keller 12 Nov '15

12 Nov '15

Hey Gang, This is a reminder that we have a WLUG meeting tomorrow! Logan Brown will be giving a talk about ownCloud. The meeting will be in the WPI Student Center Mid Century Room (rm 331) at 7pm. I'll bring along refreshments and snacks and we will head to Tech Pizza afterwards. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder: WLUG Meeting November 12th @ 7pm!
by Tim Keller 07 Nov '15

07 Nov '15

Hey Gang, This is reminder we've got a meeting next week! Logan Brown is going to be doing a talk on "ownCloud". ownCloud is a replacement for dropbox and allows you to control your content. Here's all the pertinent stuff you need to put in your calendar... Date: Nov 12th, 2015 Time: 7:00pm Location: WPI Student Center Mid Century Room (rm 331) Topic: ownCloud Presenter: Logan Brown Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll reconvene at Tech Pizza after the meeting to continue the conversation! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Django, Apache mod_wsgi
by Chuck Anderson 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

Does anyone know Python Django and Apache mod_wsgi? I would love an introductory talk on this topic, maybe for the December meeting? I'm mostly interested in overall architecture and how to deploy and manage Django apps, rather than how to write Django apps from scratch. If I can get this much figured out, we could have a new mailinglist + web forum server for WLUG!

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Re: [Wlug] Recommendations for registering a domain name...
by Richard Klein 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

And hover is the new name of tucows... On Oct 27, 2015 11:40 PM, "Theo Van Dinter" <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: > I'm using Google Domains. Great service, easy to use, inexpensive. > http://domains.google.com/ > Transferred all my domains over from Tucows, who were ok but not as good. > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:25 PM Richard Klein <richspk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I've been using hover for years. I've had no problems with them, but I've >> never tried anyone else, so can't compare. >> On Oct 27, 2015 9:15 PM, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> What company(s) do people in WLUG like for registering a domain? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tim. >>> >>> -- >>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >>> constituents as "consumers". >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Recommendations for registering a domain name...
by Theo Van Dinter 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

I'm using Google Domains. Great service, easy to use, inexpensive. http://domains.google.com/ Transferred all my domains over from Tucows, who were ok but not as good. On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:25 PM Richard Klein <richspk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've been using hover for years. I've had no problems with them, but I've > never tried anyone else, so can't compare. > On Oct 27, 2015 9:15 PM, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> What company(s) do people in WLUG like for registering a domain? >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] Recommendations for registering a domain name...
by Richard Klein 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

I've been using hover for years. I've had no problems with them, but I've never tried anyone else, so can't compare. On Oct 27, 2015 9:15 PM, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What company(s) do people in WLUG like for registering a domain? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Recommendations for registering a domain name...
by Eric Martin 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

I'm currently using GoDaddy for work, but I've heard nothing but good stuff about namecheap. I have it on my todo list to start migrating over to them. On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Cole Lavallee <colelavallee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I always use namecheap.com > > - Cole > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> What company(s) do people in WLUG like for registering a domain? >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > > -- > Cole Lavallee > 401.935.4007 > http://www.linkedin.com/in/colelavallee > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Eric Martin

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Re: [Wlug] Recommendations for registering a domain name...
by thinkbrown＠gmail.com 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

I personally use Mediatemple, where I manage ~8 domains. They've got great customer support, and a really slick control panel. They're primarily a hosting site, but they're really good either way. On Oct 27, 2015 21:15, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What company(s) do people in WLUG like for registering a domain? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Recommendations for registering a domain name...
by Frank Sweetser 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

We either use namecheap, or Dyn. Both are reasonably priced and have good reputations. On October 27, 2015 9:14:26 PM EDT, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >What company(s) do people in WLUG like for registering a domain? > >Thanks, >Tim. > >-- >I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >constituents as "consumers". > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Re: [Wlug] Recommendations for registering a domain name...
by Brett Russ 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

On Tuesday, October 27, 2015, Cole Lavallee <colelavallee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I always use namecheap.com > Second. >

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Re: [Wlug] Recommendations for registering a domain name...
by Cole Lavallee 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

I always use namecheap.com - Cole On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What company(s) do people in WLUG like for registering a domain? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Cole Lavallee 401.935.4007 http://www.linkedin.com/in/colelavallee

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Recommendations for registering a domain name...
by Tim Keller 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

What company(s) do people in WLUG like for registering a domain? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Topic for the next meeting: ownCloud
by Eric Martin 27 Oct '15

27 Oct '15

Why is xkcd so perfect? On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:52 AM Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > http://xkcd.com/320/ > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > On 10/27/2015 10:49 AM, thinkbrown(a)gmail.com wrote: > > A way to kick this whole "sleeping" habit would be nice :P > > > > Logan > > > > On Oct 27, 2015 10:42 AM, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com > > <mailto:turbofx@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Thanks Logan! > > > > Let me know if you need anything. > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:38 PM, thinkbrown(a)gmail.com > > <mailto:thinkbrown@gmail.com> <thinkbrown(a)gmail.com > > <mailto:thinkbrown@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > I'd be happy to present. > > > > Logan > > > > On Oct 26, 2015 16:35, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com > > <mailto:turbofx@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Hey Gang, > > > > So thinking it over, with the holidays coming up, I know I'm > going > > to be taking an outrageous number of pictures. In lieu of > > spending money so I have expanded storage on Google, the next > > logical step is to set up my ownCloud. > > > > Logan, do you want to do this presentation / demo? > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to > > their constituents as "consumers". > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > > constituents as "consumers". > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] Topic for the next meeting: ownCloud
by Frank Sweetser 27 Oct '15

27 Oct '15

http://xkcd.com/320/ Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 10/27/2015 10:49 AM, thinkbrown(a)gmail.com wrote: > A way to kick this whole "sleeping" habit would be nice :P > > Logan > > On Oct 27, 2015 10:42 AM, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com > <mailto:turbofx@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Thanks Logan! > > Let me know if you need anything. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:38 PM, thinkbrown(a)gmail.com > <mailto:thinkbrown@gmail.com> <thinkbrown(a)gmail.com > <mailto:thinkbrown@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I'd be happy to present. > > Logan > > On Oct 26, 2015 16:35, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com > <mailto:turbofx@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > So thinking it over, with the holidays coming up, I know I'm going > to be taking an outrageous number of pictures. In lieu of > spending money so I have expanded storage on Google, the next > logical step is to set up my ownCloud. > > Logan, do you want to do this presentation / demo? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to > their constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] Topic for the next meeting: ownCloud
by thinkbrown＠gmail.com 27 Oct '15

27 Oct '15

A way to kick this whole "sleeping" habit would be nice :P Logan On Oct 27, 2015 10:42 AM, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Logan! > > Let me know if you need anything. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:38 PM, thinkbrown(a)gmail.com < > thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'd be happy to present. >> >> Logan >> On Oct 26, 2015 16:35, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey Gang, >>> >>> So thinking it over, with the holidays coming up, I know I'm going to be >>> taking an outrageous number of pictures. In lieu of spending money so I >>> have expanded storage on Google, the next logical step is to set up my >>> ownCloud. >>> >>> Logan, do you want to do this presentation / demo? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tim. >>> >>> -- >>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >>> constituents as "consumers". >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Topic for the next meeting: ownCloud
by Tim Keller 27 Oct '15

27 Oct '15

Thanks Logan! Let me know if you need anything. Thanks, Tim. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:38 PM, thinkbrown(a)gmail.com <thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'd be happy to present. > > Logan > On Oct 26, 2015 16:35, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey Gang, >> >> So thinking it over, with the holidays coming up, I know I'm going to be >> taking an outrageous number of pictures. In lieu of spending money so I >> have expanded storage on Google, the next logical step is to set up my >> ownCloud. >> >> Logan, do you want to do this presentation / demo? >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Topic for the next meeting: ownCloud
by thinkbrown＠gmail.com 26 Oct '15

26 Oct '15

I'd be happy to present. Logan On Oct 26, 2015 16:35, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > So thinking it over, with the holidays coming up, I know I'm going to be > taking an outrageous number of pictures. In lieu of spending money so I > have expanded storage on Google, the next logical step is to set up my > ownCloud. > > Logan, do you want to do this presentation / demo? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Topic for the next meeting: ownCloud
by Tim Keller 26 Oct '15

26 Oct '15

Hey Gang, So thinking it over, with the holidays coming up, I know I'm going to be taking an outrageous number of pictures. In lieu of spending money so I have expanded storage on Google, the next logical step is to set up my ownCloud. Logan, do you want to do this presentation / demo? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Topics for upcoming meetings...
by brad 20 Oct '15

20 Oct '15

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 02:46:58PM +0200, 'thinkbrown(a)gmail.com' <thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> wrote: > ... or ownCloud (or > both) depending on people's interest (ownCloud is basically a privately > hostable Dropbox solution). > I use ownCloud daily, its a great project and i highly recommend anyone use it (although i've never seen anyone else use it). There are expecting a new 8.2 release any minute now. Also, they appear to be headquartered in lexington, ma (https://owncloud.com/jobs/) i live 50 miles away, so i can't make any promises on attending, but i'll try. cheers, - brad > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> < > SRS0=utBu=KU=mail.wlug.org=wlug-bounces(a)srs.wpi.edu> wrote: > > > "Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com>" > > <SRS0=utBu=KU=mail.wlug.org=wlug-bounces(a)srs.wpi.edu> writes: > > > > > Despite my assertions that I was going to take notes, I didn't. > > > > > > Here's what I remember, feel free to add anything that I've forgotten. > > > > > > 1. Encryption deep dive with my buddy Nick. (I've already spoken to him > > and > > > he's excited to speak) > > > 2. Setting up an radio station using open source software: Greg. > > > 3. Talk about Open Computer Vision: Tim. > > > 4. Talk about digital currency. ? > > > 5. Logan wanted to speak about something? > > > > > > Have I forgot anything or do people have any more ideas? > > > > If there is interest, I could give a presentation on the newest storage > > technology: persistent memory. > > > > http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2015/07/28/intel-an… > > > > https://www.sandisk.com/about/media-center/press-releases/2015/sandisk-and-… > > > > Cheers, > > Jeff > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Topics for upcoming meetings...
by Tim Keller 19 Oct '15

19 Oct '15

Both of those sound awesome! I'll put them on the list! Now it's just figuring out what to do first? Thanks, Tim. On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 8:46 AM, 'thinkbrown(a)gmail.com' < thinkbrown(a)gmail.com> <SRS0=CMsL=KV=mail.wlug.org=wlug-bounces(a)srs.wpi.edu> wrote: > I offered to either give a talk on home virtualization or ownCloud (or > both) depending on people's interest (ownCloud is basically a privately > hostable Dropbox solution). > > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> < > SRS0=utBu=KU=mail.wlug.org=wlug-bounces(a)srs.wpi.edu> wrote: > >> "Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com>" >> <SRS0=utBu=KU=mail.wlug.org=wlug-bounces(a)srs.wpi.edu> writes: >> >> > Despite my assertions that I was going to take notes, I didn't. >> > >> > Here's what I remember, feel free to add anything that I've forgotten. >> > >> > 1. Encryption deep dive with my buddy Nick. (I've already spoken to him >> and >> > he's excited to speak) >> > 2. Setting up an radio station using open source software: Greg. >> > 3. Talk about Open Computer Vision: Tim. >> > 4. Talk about digital currency. ? >> > 5. Logan wanted to speak about something? >> > >> > Have I forgot anything or do people have any more ideas? >> >> If there is interest, I could give a presentation on the newest storage >> technology: persistent memory. >> >> http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2015/07/28/intel-an… >> >> https://www.sandisk.com/about/media-center/press-releases/2015/sandisk-and-… >> >> Cheers, >> Jeff >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Topics for upcoming meetings...
by thinkbrown＠gmail.com 17 Oct '15

17 Oct '15

I offered to either give a talk on home virtualization or ownCloud (or both) depending on people's interest (ownCloud is basically a privately hostable Dropbox solution). On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> < SRS0=utBu=KU=mail.wlug.org=wlug-bounces(a)srs.wpi.edu> wrote: > "Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com>" > <SRS0=utBu=KU=mail.wlug.org=wlug-bounces(a)srs.wpi.edu> writes: > > > Despite my assertions that I was going to take notes, I didn't. > > > > Here's what I remember, feel free to add anything that I've forgotten. > > > > 1. Encryption deep dive with my buddy Nick. (I've already spoken to him > and > > he's excited to speak) > > 2. Setting up an radio station using open source software: Greg. > > 3. Talk about Open Computer Vision: Tim. > > 4. Talk about digital currency. ? > > 5. Logan wanted to speak about something? > > > > Have I forgot anything or do people have any more ideas? > > If there is interest, I could give a presentation on the newest storage > technology: persistent memory. > > http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2015/07/28/intel-an… > > https://www.sandisk.com/about/media-center/press-releases/2015/sandisk-and-… > > Cheers, > Jeff > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] Topics for upcoming meetings...
by Jeff Moyer 16 Oct '15

16 Oct '15

"Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com>" <SRS0=utBu=KU=mail.wlug.org=wlug-bounces(a)srs.wpi.edu> writes: > Despite my assertions that I was going to take notes, I didn't. > > Here's what I remember, feel free to add anything that I've forgotten. > > 1. Encryption deep dive with my buddy Nick. (I've already spoken to him and > he's excited to speak) > 2. Setting up an radio station using open source software: Greg. > 3. Talk about Open Computer Vision: Tim. > 4. Talk about digital currency. ? > 5. Logan wanted to speak about something? > > Have I forgot anything or do people have any more ideas? If there is interest, I could give a presentation on the newest storage technology: persistent memory. http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2015/07/28/intel-an… https://www.sandisk.com/about/media-center/press-releases/2015/sandisk-and-… Cheers, Jeff

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Topics for upcoming meetings...
by Tim Keller 16 Oct '15

16 Oct '15

Despite my assertions that I was going to take notes, I didn't. Here's what I remember, feel free to add anything that I've forgotten. 1. Encryption deep dive with my buddy Nick. (I've already spoken to him and he's excited to speak) 2. Setting up an radio station using open source software: Greg. 3. Talk about Open Computer Vision: Tim. 4. Talk about digital currency. ? 5. Logan wanted to speak about something? Have I forgot anything or do people have any more ideas? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Security assessment for remote offices and wireless
by Richard Klein 16 Oct '15

16 Oct '15

Talk about the wifi pineapple tonight reminded me of this company: https://www.pwnieexpress.com/

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting TODAY!
by JeffA Maillists 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

Ugh, I was hoping to make it there this month, but then I had to work a bit late, and as I decided I would just show up late, I 'remembered' that I've got a pretty bad cold right now, and I should probably just stay home so I don't get you guys all sick. :( I wanted to talk about my use of Linux... 1) MythTV Server (a bit old now) 2) Phone Screening system (Raspbery Pi) 3) Video Editing PC (Ubuntu and OpenShot) 4) Various Pi projects... I'm going to be building a pi with a 2.6" touch-screen to be a creston style controller for the projectors at my church... (Ok, it may be a little 'overkill', but it will be a cool/fun project...) Take care, and I hope that I can make the next one - I really enjoy this group, I just find it hard to get there at times... ;-) Jeff Artz On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> < SRS0=TWgO=KT=mail.wlug.org=wlug-bounces(a)srs.wpi.edu> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Just a last reminder we've got a meeting today! > > It's in the usual place (WPI Student Center (Mid Century Room (rm 331))) > At the usual time (7pm) > The topic is going to be an open discussion forum. > Snacks and beverages will be provided and we'll saunter down to Tech Pizza > for a follow up discussion. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting TODAY!
by Richard Klein 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

Can you refresh my memory on where to park these days? On Oct 15, 2015 3:56 PM, "Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com>" <SRS0=TWgO=KT=mail.wlug.org=wlug-bounces(a)srs.wpi.edu> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Just a last reminder we've got a meeting today! > > It's in the usual place (WPI Student Center (Mid Century Room (rm 331))) > At the usual time (7pm) > The topic is going to be an open discussion forum. > Snacks and beverages will be provided and we'll saunter down to Tech Pizza > for a follow up discussion. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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WLUG Meeting TODAY!
by Tim Keller 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

Hey Gang, Just a last reminder we've got a meeting today! It's in the usual place (WPI Student Center (Mid Century Room (rm 331))) At the usual time (7pm) The topic is going to be an open discussion forum. Snacks and beverages will be provided and we'll saunter down to Tech Pizza for a follow up discussion. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 144, Issue 5
by Jonathan Lettvin 14 Oct '15

14 Oct '15

Conflict. I really want to come, but I must be elsewhere. Do not kill the group out of lack of interest. I am interested. On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:00 PM, wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org < SRS0=vAv/=KS=mail.wlug.org=wlug-bounces(a)srs.wpi.edu> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. REMINDER: Meeting tomorrow! 10/15 @ 7PM. (Tim Keller) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:29:51 -0400 > From: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Wlug] REMINDER: Meeting tomorrow! 10/15 @ 7PM. > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CA+r3vQj93DYdiK6n5Nis+0jdHPetSFe_SjyGq3xM2i7qTMCDkQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hey Gang, > > This is a reminder that we're going to be having a meeting tomorrow! > > Location: WPI Student Center: Mid Century Room (rm 331) > Time: 7PM > Topic: Open Topic, Though I plan on getting peoples input on things they'd > like future meetings to be about! > Refreshments: VCB ("Various Carbonated Beverages") plus snacks > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20151014/c09bf484/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 144, Issue 5 > ************************************ > -- This e-mail is from Jonathan D. Lettvin, and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, copy or distribute the e-mail or any attachments. Instead, please notify the sender and delete the e-mail and any attachments. Thank you. Jonathan D. Lettvin

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REMINDER: Meeting tomorrow! 10/15 @ 7PM.
by Tim Keller 14 Oct '15

14 Oct '15

Hey Gang, This is a reminder that we're going to be having a meeting tomorrow! Location: WPI Student Center: Mid Century Room (rm 331) Time: 7PM Topic: Open Topic, Though I plan on getting peoples input on things they'd like future meetings to be about! Refreshments: VCB ("Various Carbonated Beverages") plus snacks Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Meeting?
by Tim Keller 08 Oct '15

08 Oct '15

Next Thursday! 10/15/2015 On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> < SRS0=0b1Q=KM=mail.wlug.org=wlug-bounces(a)srs.wpi.edu> wrote: > So are we on for this Thursday or next? > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 2:05 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Chuck, >> >> The main problem with tomorrow was that we didn't have a room reserved >> and I dropped the ball sending out the reminder email. Beyond that on a >> selfish side note I can't make tomorrow but I can make next Thursday. >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: >> >>> Tomorrow is the 2nd Thursday of the month. >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 11:41:34AM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: >>> > We actually haven't done a round table in a while. David, I like your >>> idea >>> > for the home automation / vision processing as well. I just went >>> looking >>> > and there are 10+ companies that make linux based home automation >>> > products. I've messed with the the opencv stuff and my co worker is >>> using >>> > it read his water meter and do OCR. >>> > >>> > Keith, it would be cool to have someone (other than me) talk about >>> managing >>> > large amounts of data. Drop a line to your friend and see if they'd be >>> > willing to do a talk. >>> > >>> > I talked a bit about hadoop as well since I've been working with >>> that. I >>> > could with some prep give a talk about hadoop if people were >>> interested. >>> > I've also been playing with the parallel python stuff as well. >>> > >>> > My plan is to send out a reminder that the meeting is going to be next >>> > Thursday. It's a bit too soon to get anything put together on either >>> of >>> > these topics, but we should talk them through next Thursday and see if >>> > anybody has more ideas as well. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Tim. >>> > >>> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:13 AM, David Glaser < >>> dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > I would like to see a presentation on using linux for home >>> automation or a >>> > > presentation on using linux for vision processing. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On 10/07/2015 10:42 AM, Keith Wright wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Hey Gang, >>> > > >>> > > What would people like to do for WLUG this month? >>> > > >>> > > Thanks, >>> > > Tim. >>> > > >>> > > Oh, oh, nobody answers. >>> > > >>> > > I don't want WLUG to die for lack of interest. >>> > > >>> > > If we can't get a speaker and a topic, let's >>> > > do a discussion circle---everyone takes a turn >>> > > to answer the question "For what do you use Linux?" >>> > > >>> > > I know some people use it at work to manage >>> > > multi-terabyte databases, and some build little >>> > > microprocessor gadgets, but I would be interested >>> > > to know the full range, and maybe learn about >>> > > some new applications. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Meeting?
by Eric Martin 08 Oct '15

08 Oct '15

So are we on for this Thursday or next? On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 2:05 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Chuck, > > The main problem with tomorrow was that we didn't have a room reserved and > I dropped the ball sending out the reminder email. Beyond that on a selfish > side note I can't make tomorrow but I can make next Thursday. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > >> Tomorrow is the 2nd Thursday of the month. >> >> On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 11:41:34AM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: >> > We actually haven't done a round table in a while. David, I like your >> idea >> > for the home automation / vision processing as well. I just went >> looking >> > and there are 10+ companies that make linux based home automation >> > products. I've messed with the the opencv stuff and my co worker is >> using >> > it read his water meter and do OCR. >> > >> > Keith, it would be cool to have someone (other than me) talk about >> managing >> > large amounts of data. Drop a line to your friend and see if they'd be >> > willing to do a talk. >> > >> > I talked a bit about hadoop as well since I've been working with that. >> I >> > could with some prep give a talk about hadoop if people were interested. >> > I've also been playing with the parallel python stuff as well. >> > >> > My plan is to send out a reminder that the meeting is going to be next >> > Thursday. It's a bit too soon to get anything put together on either of >> > these topics, but we should talk them through next Thursday and see if >> > anybody has more ideas as well. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Tim. >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:13 AM, David Glaser < >> dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > I would like to see a presentation on using linux for home automation >> or a >> > > presentation on using linux for vision processing. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On 10/07/2015 10:42 AM, Keith Wright wrote: >> > > >> > > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: >> > > >> > > >> > > Hey Gang, >> > > >> > > What would people like to do for WLUG this month? >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Tim. >> > > >> > > Oh, oh, nobody answers. >> > > >> > > I don't want WLUG to die for lack of interest. >> > > >> > > If we can't get a speaker and a topic, let's >> > > do a discussion circle---everyone takes a turn >> > > to answer the question "For what do you use Linux?" >> > > >> > > I know some people use it at work to manage >> > > multi-terabyte databases, and some build little >> > > microprocessor gadgets, but I would be interested >> > > to know the full range, and maybe learn about >> > > some new applications. >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Meeting?
by Tim Keller 07 Oct '15

07 Oct '15

Chuck, The main problem with tomorrow was that we didn't have a room reserved and I dropped the ball sending out the reminder email. Beyond that on a selfish side note I can't make tomorrow but I can make next Thursday. Thanks, Tim. On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Tomorrow is the 2nd Thursday of the month. > > On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 11:41:34AM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > We actually haven't done a round table in a while. David, I like your > idea > > for the home automation / vision processing as well. I just went looking > > and there are 10+ companies that make linux based home automation > > products. I've messed with the the opencv stuff and my co worker is > using > > it read his water meter and do OCR. > > > > Keith, it would be cool to have someone (other than me) talk about > managing > > large amounts of data. Drop a line to your friend and see if they'd be > > willing to do a talk. > > > > I talked a bit about hadoop as well since I've been working with that. I > > could with some prep give a talk about hadoop if people were interested. > > I've also been playing with the parallel python stuff as well. > > > > My plan is to send out a reminder that the meeting is going to be next > > Thursday. It's a bit too soon to get anything put together on either of > > these topics, but we should talk them through next Thursday and see if > > anybody has more ideas as well. > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:13 AM, David Glaser < > dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> > > wrote: > > > > > I would like to see a presentation on using linux for home automation > or a > > > presentation on using linux for vision processing. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/07/2015 10:42 AM, Keith Wright wrote: > > > > > > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > > > > > > > Hey Gang, > > > > > > What would people like to do for WLUG this month? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Tim. > > > > > > Oh, oh, nobody answers. > > > > > > I don't want WLUG to die for lack of interest. > > > > > > If we can't get a speaker and a topic, let's > > > do a discussion circle---everyone takes a turn > > > to answer the question "For what do you use Linux?" > > > > > > I know some people use it at work to manage > > > multi-terabyte databases, and some build little > > > microprocessor gadgets, but I would be interested > > > to know the full range, and maybe learn about > > > some new applications. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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WLUG Meeting NEXT Thursday (10/15)
by Tim Keller 07 Oct '15

07 Oct '15

Hey Everybody, We won't be having a WLUG meeting tomorrow. We're going to be having it on the 3rd Thursday of the month (10/15). We'll be having the meeting in the mid century room (rm 331) @ 7pm. There's no topic for this meeting YET! My plan is to make it an open discussion meeting. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Meeting?
by Chuck Anderson 07 Oct '15

07 Oct '15

Tomorrow is the 2nd Thursday of the month. On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 11:41:34AM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > We actually haven't done a round table in a while. David, I like your idea > for the home automation / vision processing as well. I just went looking > and there are 10+ companies that make linux based home automation > products. I've messed with the the opencv stuff and my co worker is using > it read his water meter and do OCR. > > Keith, it would be cool to have someone (other than me) talk about managing > large amounts of data. Drop a line to your friend and see if they'd be > willing to do a talk. > > I talked a bit about hadoop as well since I've been working with that. I > could with some prep give a talk about hadoop if people were interested. > I've also been playing with the parallel python stuff as well. > > My plan is to send out a reminder that the meeting is going to be next > Thursday. It's a bit too soon to get anything put together on either of > these topics, but we should talk them through next Thursday and see if > anybody has more ideas as well. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:13 AM, David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> > wrote: > > > I would like to see a presentation on using linux for home automation or a > > presentation on using linux for vision processing. > > > > > > > > On 10/07/2015 10:42 AM, Keith Wright wrote: > > > > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > > > > Hey Gang, > > > > What would people like to do for WLUG this month? > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > > > > Oh, oh, nobody answers. > > > > I don't want WLUG to die for lack of interest. > > > > If we can't get a speaker and a topic, let's > > do a discussion circle---everyone takes a turn > > to answer the question "For what do you use Linux?" > > > > I know some people use it at work to manage > > multi-terabyte databases, and some build little > > microprocessor gadgets, but I would be interested > > to know the full range, and maybe learn about > > some new applications.

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 144, Issue 2
by Jonathan Lettvin 07 Oct '15

07 Oct '15

I've been exploring HTML5 3D scene rendering. It appears to make good use of gpgpu acceleration. My first use of it is up on github: https://github.com/jlettvin/cubeHTML5 (repository) https://cdn.rawgit.com/jlettvin/cubeHTML5/master/cube.html (result) Additional layered technologies make excellent use. WebGL and Three.js are amongst the more mature. http://threejs.org/ http://stemkoski.github.io/Three.js/ http://threejs.org/examples/ http://threejs.org/examples/#webgl_custom_attributes_points3 The speed of development and resulting performance is orders of magnitude better than historical methods. I am no expert, but it is a remarkable technology. I intend to use it to develop and make dynamic presentations. It is not specific to Linux, but it is supported there. Is it worth using a wlug session on this subject? Just a self-serving thought. On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Topic for next Meeting? (Keith Wright) > 2. Re: Topic for next Meeting? (David Glaser) > 3. Re: Topic for next Meeting? (Tim Keller) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 10:42:01 -0400 > From: Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Meeting? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Cc: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <87fv1mhhae.fsf(a)fcs20.keithdiane.us> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > Hey Gang, > > > > What would people like to do for WLUG this month? > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > > Oh, oh, nobody answers. > > I don't want WLUG to die for lack of interest. > > If we can't get a speaker and a topic, let's > do a discussion circle---everyone takes a turn > to answer the question "For what do you use Linux?" > > I know some people use it at work to manage > multi-terabyte databases, and some build little > microprocessor gadgets, but I would be interested > to know the full range, and maybe learn about > some new applications. > > -- Keith > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 11:13:29 -0400 > From: David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Meeting? > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <56153699.6060307(a)glaserresearch.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I would like to see a presentation on using linux for home automation or > a presentation on using linux for vision processing. > > > > On 10/07/2015 10:42 AM, Keith Wright wrote: > > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > >> Hey Gang, > >> > >> What would people like to do for WLUG this month? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Tim. > > Oh, oh, nobody answers. > > > > I don't want WLUG to die for lack of interest. > > > > If we can't get a speaker and a topic, let's > > do a discussion circle---everyone takes a turn > > to answer the question "For what do you use Linux?" > > > > I know some people use it at work to manage > > multi-terabyte databases, and some build little > > microprocessor gadgets, but I would be interested > > to know the full range, and maybe learn about > > some new applications. > > > > -- Keith > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20151007/becf2e65/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 11:41:34 -0400 > From: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Meeting? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CA+r3vQhduxi7yAa0j+vgJtcWhm7OBkQsaejf5pSh1REk-AXNWQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > We actually haven't done a round table in a while. David, I like your idea > for the home automation / vision processing as well. I just went looking > and there are 10+ companies that make linux based home automation > products. I've messed with the the opencv stuff and my co worker is using > it read his water meter and do OCR. > > Keith, it would be cool to have someone (other than me) talk about managing > large amounts of data. Drop a line to your friend and see if they'd be > willing to do a talk. > > I talked a bit about hadoop as well since I've been working with that. I > could with some prep give a talk about hadoop if people were interested. > I've also been playing with the parallel python stuff as well. > > My plan is to send out a reminder that the meeting is going to be next > Thursday. It's a bit too soon to get anything put together on either of > these topics, but we should talk them through next Thursday and see if > anybody has more ideas as well. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:13 AM, David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> > wrote: > > > I would like to see a presentation on using linux for home automation or > a > > presentation on using linux for vision processing. > > > > > > > > On 10/07/2015 10:42 AM, Keith Wright wrote: > > > > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > > > > Hey Gang, > > > > What would people like to do for WLUG this month? > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > > > > Oh, oh, nobody answers. > > > > I don't want WLUG to die for lack of interest. > > > > If we can't get a speaker and a topic, let's > > do a discussion circle---everyone takes a turn > > to answer the question "For what do you use Linux?" > > > > I know some people use it at work to manage > > multi-terabyte databases, and some build little > > microprocessor gadgets, but I would be interested > > to know the full range, and maybe learn about > > some new applications. > > > > -- Keith > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing listWlug@mail.wlug.orghttp:// > mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20151007/7b1edfa4/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 144, Issue 2 > ************************************ > -- This e-mail is from Jonathan D. 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Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Meeting?
by Tim Keller 07 Oct '15

07 Oct '15

We actually haven't done a round table in a while. David, I like your idea for the home automation / vision processing as well. I just went looking and there are 10+ companies that make linux based home automation products. I've messed with the the opencv stuff and my co worker is using it read his water meter and do OCR. Keith, it would be cool to have someone (other than me) talk about managing large amounts of data. Drop a line to your friend and see if they'd be willing to do a talk. I talked a bit about hadoop as well since I've been working with that. I could with some prep give a talk about hadoop if people were interested. I've also been playing with the parallel python stuff as well. My plan is to send out a reminder that the meeting is going to be next Thursday. It's a bit too soon to get anything put together on either of these topics, but we should talk them through next Thursday and see if anybody has more ideas as well. Thanks, Tim. On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:13 AM, David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> wrote: > I would like to see a presentation on using linux for home automation or a > presentation on using linux for vision processing. > > > > On 10/07/2015 10:42 AM, Keith Wright wrote: > > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > Hey Gang, > > What would people like to do for WLUG this month? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > Oh, oh, nobody answers. > > I don't want WLUG to die for lack of interest. > > If we can't get a speaker and a topic, let's > do a discussion circle---everyone takes a turn > to answer the question "For what do you use Linux?" > > I know some people use it at work to manage > multi-terabyte databases, and some build little > microprocessor gadgets, but I would be interested > to know the full range, and maybe learn about > some new applications. > > -- Keith > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing listWlug@mail.wlug.orghttp://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Meeting?
by David Glaser 07 Oct '15

07 Oct '15

I would like to see a presentation on using linux for home automation or a presentation on using linux for vision processing. On 10/07/2015 10:42 AM, Keith Wright wrote: > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> Hey Gang, >> >> What would people like to do for WLUG this month? >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. > Oh, oh, nobody answers. > > I don't want WLUG to die for lack of interest. > > If we can't get a speaker and a topic, let's > do a discussion circle---everyone takes a turn > to answer the question "For what do you use Linux?" > > I know some people use it at work to manage > multi-terabyte databases, and some build little > microprocessor gadgets, but I would be interested > to know the full range, and maybe learn about > some new applications. > > -- Keith > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Meeting?
by Keith Wright 07 Oct '15

07 Oct '15

Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > Hey Gang, > > What would people like to do for WLUG this month? > > Thanks, > Tim. Oh, oh, nobody answers. I don't want WLUG to die for lack of interest. If we can't get a speaker and a topic, let's do a discussion circle---everyone takes a turn to answer the question "For what do you use Linux?" I know some people use it at work to manage multi-terabyte databases, and some build little microprocessor gadgets, but I would be interested to know the full range, and maybe learn about some new applications. -- Keith

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Topic for next Meeting?
by Tim Keller 05 Oct '15

05 Oct '15

Hey Gang, What would people like to do for WLUG this month? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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OPENING - Embedded Linux expert, C/C++ in Boston
by John Spencer 18 Sep '15

18 Sep '15

We have a client in Boston looking for a Sr Embedded Software Engineer with a strong background in embedded Linux and strong C/C++ skills. This is a contract or contract to perm opening. Short-term need is to work with the Linux architect and other engineers to help get the existing product completed. Once completed, work will involve working on the next generation of products. If you are an embedded Linux expert, please contact me for details. If you know any embedded Linux experts, please feel free to pass this info along and have them contact me directly. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Office: (978) 455-5550 x208 Cell: (978) 621-9743 jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com GET CONNECTED! All information in this email, unless indicated otherwise in the body of the email, is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Notes From Last Nights STEM Meeting
by Eric Martin 13 Sep '15

13 Sep '15

Thanks Joel et al! I forgot about snap circuits, and I might get a set to play with my son. On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:17 PM Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > OS disaggregated switches also came up last night: > > http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew-lerner/2014/04/17/network-disaggregation-is… > ^^just a random article on the subject > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Joel <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Eric and all, >> >> Here are my notes from the STEM discussions. >> >> >> Snap Circuits - a lego type electronics education kit. I recommend the >> 300 >> or 500 size kits. At 8 my son can solo follow plans and build a FM radio >> receiver that works. >> >> Lightbot - program logic thinking for young kids. >> >> Scratch - visual object programming via flash website. >> . . . . . . code.org - sample scratch programs >> >> Alice 3 - app is not very stable. >> . . . . . . - more powerful and complex items >> >> Squeak - >> >> What-if. Xkcd.com >> >> Theoatmeal.com >> >> Rasberry pi robot >> >> Tim included some ther non kid / STEM discussion about the systems tools >> with Hadoop for rapid system building & clustering. >> >> >> Since the meeting I found two more I plan to try with my 8 year old. . >> >> Dragonbox Algebra - unique app for learning Math. & Algebra. . IOS & >> Android. >> >> MIT App Inventor - web app development which will also work on phones & >> tablets. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Joel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Notes From Last Nights STEM Meeting
by Richard Klein 12 Sep '15

12 Sep '15

OS disaggregated switches also came up last night: http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew-lerner/2014/04/17/network-disaggregation-is… ^^just a random article on the subject On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Joel <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Eric and all, > > Here are my notes from the STEM discussions. > > > Snap Circuits - a lego type electronics education kit. I recommend the 300 > or 500 size kits. At 8 my son can solo follow plans and build a FM radio > receiver that works. > > Lightbot - program logic thinking for young kids. > > Scratch - visual object programming via flash website. > . . . . . . code.org - sample scratch programs > > Alice 3 - app is not very stable. > . . . . . . - more powerful and complex items > > Squeak - > > What-if. Xkcd.com > > Theoatmeal.com > > Rasberry pi robot > > Tim included some ther non kid / STEM discussion about the systems tools > with Hadoop for rapid system building & clustering. > > > Since the meeting I found two more I plan to try with my 8 year old. . > > Dragonbox Algebra - unique app for learning Math. & Algebra. . IOS & > Android. > > MIT App Inventor - web app development which will also work on phones & > tablets. > > Hope this helps, > > Joel > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Notes From Last Nights STEM Meeting
by Richard Klein 12 Sep '15

12 Sep '15

Also mentioned in relation to Hadoop: Ambari, the Hadoop management GUI: http://ambari.apache.org/ Hortonworks, something akin to a Hadoop distro: http://hortonworks.com/ Cloudera, another Hadoop 'distro': http://www.cloudera.com/content/cloudera/en/home.html On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > I've installed Alice already, though I haven't played with it much. > https://alice.org/ > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Joel <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Eric and all, >> >> Here are my notes from the STEM discussions. >> >> >> Snap Circuits - a lego type electronics education kit. I recommend the >> 300 >> or 500 size kits. At 8 my son can solo follow plans and build a FM radio >> receiver that works. >> >> Lightbot - program logic thinking for young kids. >> >> Scratch - visual object programming via flash website. >> . . . . . . code.org - sample scratch programs >> >> Alice 3 - app is not very stable. >> . . . . . . - more powerful and complex items >> >> Squeak - >> >> What-if. Xkcd.com >> >> Theoatmeal.com >> >> Rasberry pi robot >> >> Tim included some ther non kid / STEM discussion about the systems tools >> with Hadoop for rapid system building & clustering. >> >> >> Since the meeting I found two more I plan to try with my 8 year old. . >> >> Dragonbox Algebra - unique app for learning Math. & Algebra. . IOS & >> Android. >> >> MIT App Inventor - web app development which will also work on phones & >> tablets. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Joel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Notes From Last Nights STEM Meeting
by Richard Klein 12 Sep '15

12 Sep '15

I've installed Alice already, though I haven't played with it much. https://alice.org/ On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Joel <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Eric and all, > > Here are my notes from the STEM discussions. > > > Snap Circuits - a lego type electronics education kit. I recommend the 300 > or 500 size kits. At 8 my son can solo follow plans and build a FM radio > receiver that works. > > Lightbot - program logic thinking for young kids. > > Scratch - visual object programming via flash website. > . . . . . . code.org - sample scratch programs > > Alice 3 - app is not very stable. > . . . . . . - more powerful and complex items > > Squeak - > > What-if. Xkcd.com > > Theoatmeal.com > > Rasberry pi robot > > Tim included some ther non kid / STEM discussion about the systems tools > with Hadoop for rapid system building & clustering. > > > Since the meeting I found two more I plan to try with my 8 year old. . > > Dragonbox Algebra - unique app for learning Math. & Algebra. . IOS & > Android. > > MIT App Inventor - web app development which will also work on phones & > tablets. > > Hope this helps, > > Joel > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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WLUG Notes From Last Nights STEM Meeting
by Joel 12 Sep '15

12 Sep '15

Eric and all, Here are my notes from the STEM discussions. Snap Circuits - a lego type electronics education kit. I recommend the 300 or 500 size kits. At 8 my son can solo follow plans and build a FM radio receiver that works. Lightbot - program logic thinking for young kids. Scratch - visual object programming via flash website. . . . . . . code.org - sample scratch programs Alice 3 - app is not very stable. . . . . . . - more powerful and complex items Squeak - What-if. Xkcd.com Theoatmeal.com Rasberry pi robot Tim included some ther non kid / STEM discussion about the systems tools with Hadoop for rapid system building & clustering. Since the meeting I found two more I plan to try with my 8 year old. . Dragonbox Algebra - unique app for learning Math. & Algebra. . IOS & Android. MIT App Inventor - web app development which will also work on phones & tablets. Hope this helps, Joel

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Re: [Wlug] Arduino robot kit sale
by JeffA Maillists 11 Sep '15

11 Sep '15

Sorry I missed it... I really wanted to make it to this one too... Sometimes I hate the fact that I work in Boston... :/ Great price on that robot kit too, considering the quality of the parts... Thanks for sharing it. ;-) Jeff On Sep 11, 2015 1:50 PM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > After last night's great presentation by Tim, I thought people might be > interested in a good deal on an arduino robot start kit: > > > > https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150910/17091732218/daily-deal-makeblock… > > -- > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Arduino robot kit sale
by Frank Sweetser 11 Sep '15

11 Sep '15

After last night's great presentation by Tim, I thought people might be interested in a good deal on an arduino robot start kit: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150910/17091732218/daily-deal-makeblock… -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Sept 10th, 2015 @ 7:00pm !!!DIFFERENT LOCATION!!!!
by Eric Martin 10 Sep '15

10 Sep '15

Let me know how it goes, I have some home stuff to take care of so I'll be unable to attend. I'd love it if people could at least post links to cool things on the website / mailing list so those of us who can't attend can benefit. Thanks! On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 8:30 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Sorry for the late notice... Kids, school, etc. > > Firstly, we will be meeting in Rm. 203 Stratton Hall: > http://maps.wpi.edu/map/?id=609#!ce/6603,11184?ct/11184?m/105250 > > Speaking of which, our topic is going to be about STEAM (Science > Technology, Engineering, Art and Mathematics) oriented educational things > that are built with or work on linux. > > Basically I see this as a round table for people to talk about some of the > cool stuff that's out there for kids these days. I've got scratch loaded > on my machine so I can give a demo of that. I've also got Alice and google > blocks as well. I'll also bring along my copy of snap circuits. > > This is an open venue. Feel free to do some research and find something > cool. > > Like always, there will be refreshments provided and we'll convene at Tech > Pizza afterwards to continue to banter. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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WLUG Meeting Sept 10th, 2015 @ 7:00pm !!!DIFFERENT LOCATION!!!!
by Tim Keller 09 Sep '15

09 Sep '15

Hey Gang, Sorry for the late notice... Kids, school, etc. Firstly, we will be meeting in Rm. 203 Stratton Hall: http://maps.wpi.edu/map/?id=609#!ce/6603,11184?ct/11184?m/105250 Speaking of which, our topic is going to be about STEAM (Science Technology, Engineering, Art and Mathematics) oriented educational things that are built with or work on linux. Basically I see this as a round table for people to talk about some of the cool stuff that's out there for kids these days. I've got scratch loaded on my machine so I can give a demo of that. I've also got Alice and google blocks as well. I'll also bring along my copy of snap circuits. This is an open venue. Feel free to do some research and find something cool. Like always, there will be refreshments provided and we'll convene at Tech Pizza afterwards to continue to banter. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Ideas for Sept Meeting
by Joel 01 Sep '15

01 Sep '15

Hi, I think kids STEM is a great meeting idea. I would be glad to bring a Snap Circuits and a demo. Probably 5-10 minutes. As father of 8 year old, would gladly listen on other topics (programming, robotics, arduino, etc.). Thank you, Joel

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Re: [Wlug] Ideas for Sept Meeting?
by JeffA Maillists 28 Aug '15

28 Aug '15

How about another BBQ, since I missed the last one, LOL! (J/K) The topic of 'kids-oriented programming, circuits and robotics' sounds good to me. ;-) Somewhere in my house I have an old R/C tank that my Dad gave to my son when he was 5. And then when he was just 6 years old, my Dad passed, so the tank became even more valueable to Joe. But somewhere along the line, it died (electronically, probably due to Joe playing with it in the snow, LOL!), so I started to convert it to use an Arduino to control it, and intended to intended to use Bluetooth modules to communicate between the Arduino controlling the motors and the Arduino reading the controls on the remote. But, alas, like many of the projects that I start, I got side-tracked by life and never got back to it... But I could probably find it and 'ressurect' the project in time for the meeting and do a little 'show-and-tell' about it. Heck, maybe I can use it to get my son (who's now 24) into programming and electroncis... ;-) Jeff I don't have anything to contribute, but I'd love to hear what others are doing in this area. ---- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. On August 28, 2015 11:54:19 AM EDT, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Hey Gang! > >I know kids are going back to school, etc and the summer is winding >down... >but WLUG isn't! > >So in that vein, I know many of us have STEAM/STEM oriented kids. > >I was wondering how interested people would be in doing a round table / >demo regarding: >Kids oriented programming, circuits, robotics, etc. > >Thanks, >Tim. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Ideas for Sept Meeting?
by Frank Sweetser 28 Aug '15

28 Aug '15

I don't have anything to contribute, but I'd love to hear what others are doing in this area. ---- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. On August 28, 2015 11:54:19 AM EDT, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Hey Gang! > >I know kids are going back to school, etc and the summer is winding >down... >but WLUG isn't! > >So in that vein, I know many of us have STEAM/STEM oriented kids. > >I was wondering how interested people would be in doing a round table / >demo regarding: >Kids oriented programming, circuits, robotics, etc. > >Thanks, >Tim.

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Re: [Wlug] Ideas for Sept Meeting?
by John Stoffel 28 Aug '15

28 Aug '15

Tim> I know kids are going back to school, etc and the summer is winding down... but WLUG isn't! Tim> So in that vein, I know many of us have STEAM/STEM oriented kids. And the boy scouts (Troop 227 in Shrewsbury) which my son goes to are also looking to expand into more STEM oriented programs, so I'd be interested in this as well. Tim> I was wondering how interested people would be in doing a round table / demo regarding: Tim> Kids oriented programming, circuits, robotics, etc. It would be good. Even if just arduino and other stuff.

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OPENING - Embedded Linux expert, C/C++ in Boston
by John Spencer 28 Aug '15

28 Aug '15

We have a client in Boston looking for a Sr Embedded Software Engineer with a strong background in embedded Linux and strong C/C++ skills. This is a contract or contract to perm opening. Short-term need is to work with the Linux architect and other engineers to help get the existing product completed. Once completed, work will involve working on the next generation of products. If you are an embedded Linux expert, please contact me for details. If you know any embedded Linux experts, please feel free to pass this info along and have them contact me directly. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Office: (978) 455-5550 x208 Cell: (978) 621-9743 jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com GET CONNECTED! All information in this email, unless indicated otherwise in the body of the email, is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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Ideas for Sept Meeting?
by Tim Keller 28 Aug '15

28 Aug '15

Hey Gang! I know kids are going back to school, etc and the summer is winding down... but WLUG isn't! So in that vein, I know many of us have STEAM/STEM oriented kids. I was wondering how interested people would be in doing a round table / demo regarding: Kids oriented programming, circuits, robotics, etc. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Reminder: WLUG Meeting Today at 7pm (WPI Campus Center Mid Century Rm 331!)
by thinkbrown＠gmail.com 14 Aug '15

14 Aug '15

Sorry I wasn't able to attend. Duty called. I also won't be there for the Sept. or Oct. meetings as I will be in Switzerland on IQP (one of the main WPI projects). See you all in November, Logan On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 7:41 AM, JeffA Maillists <jeffa.maillists(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I was planning on being there, but then got pulled into a support call for > work just before I left and was tied up until nearly 10... D'oh! > Next month... > Jeff > On Aug 13, 2015 3:45 PM, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey Gang, >> >> This is a reminder that we're having a meeting today! Frank will be >> speaking about Software Defined Networks! Usual time, usual place, you >> know the drill. >> >> Refreshments will be served and we'll go out for pizza afterwards. >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Reminder: WLUG Meeting Today at 7pm (WPI Campus Center Mid Century Rm 331!)
by JeffA Maillists 14 Aug '15

14 Aug '15

I was planning on being there, but then got pulled into a support call for work just before I left and was tied up until nearly 10... D'oh! Next month... Jeff On Aug 13, 2015 3:45 PM, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > This is a reminder that we're having a meeting today! Frank will be > speaking about Software Defined Networks! Usual time, usual place, you > know the drill. > > Refreshments will be served and we'll go out for pizza afterwards. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Reminder: WLUG Meeting Today at 7pm (WPI Campus Center Mid Century Rm 331!)
by Tim Keller 13 Aug '15

13 Aug '15

Hey Gang, This is a reminder that we're having a meeting today! Frank will be speaking about Software Defined Networks! Usual time, usual place, you know the drill. Refreshments will be served and we'll go out for pizza afterwards. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder! WLUG meeting Thursday August 13th at 7pm!
by Tim Keller 11 Aug '15

11 Aug '15

Hey Gang, This is a reminder that we have a WLUG meeting! Date and Time: Thursday August 13th at 7pm! Location: Campus Center Mid Century Room (rm 331) Topic: Software Defined Networks! Frank is going to be doing a talk to Software Defined Networks (SDN's). What they are, what they do, why they're better than traditional networks. Refreshments: will be provided and we'll retire to Tech Pizza to continue the conversation. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting August 13th!
by thinkbrown＠gmail.com 01 Aug '15

01 Aug '15

I actually would be interested in hearing about that. The whole SDN buzzword gets thrown around a lot without any real explanation. On Aug 1, 2015 09:07, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > If there's any interest, I could throw together a few slides on the > current trend of SDN, software defined networking. > ---- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > On July 31, 2015 3:35:56 PM EDT, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Hey Gang, > > > >I hope everybody has had a great summer. August 13th is our next > >meeting... Does anybody have a topic they're interested in either > >knowing > >about or talking about, let me know. > > > >Thanks, > >Tim. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting August 13th!
by Frank Sweetser 01 Aug '15

01 Aug '15

If there's any interest, I could throw together a few slides on the current trend of SDN, software defined networking. ---- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. On July 31, 2015 3:35:56 PM EDT, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Hey Gang, > >I hope everybody has had a great summer. August 13th is our next >meeting... Does anybody have a topic they're interested in either >knowing >about or talking about, let me know. > >Thanks, >Tim.

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Next Meeting August 13th!
by Tim Keller 31 Jul '15

31 Jul '15

Hey Gang, I hope everybody has had a great summer. August 13th is our next meeting... Does anybody have a topic they're interested in either knowing about or talking about, let me know. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] I may post in your list. Please add me to the list of permitted contributors.
by Eric Martin 31 Jul '15

31 Jul '15

I think it worked :) On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Jonathan Lettvin <jlettvin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > -- > This e-mail is from Jonathan D. Lettvin, and may contain information that > is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, do > not read, copy or distribute the e-mail or any attachments. Instead, please > notify the sender and delete the e-mail and any attachments. Thank you. > > Jonathan D. Lettvin > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Eric Martin

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I may post in your list. Please add me to the list of permitted contributors.
by Jonathan Lettvin 26 Jul '15

26 Jul '15

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help with CentOS webserver
by Pete Wason 18 Jul '15

18 Jul '15

Hi, I ought to know all this stuff by now, but I'm having some issues with my (new) webserver. Mainly connectivity/iptables stuff. If anyone feels like coming out to Sutton and tweakin' for a while, I will reward them with beer and/or stirfry. I'm here all weekend, cleaning out my basement. Or next weekend if that's better. You can reply directly to codevark(a)aim.com. ZoON PS: I have all sorts of rare and bizarre hardware and other stuff -- if you're interested in anything you can just take it. Must make room for time machine. :)

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Sr Embedded Linux opening - BlueZ - contract in RI
by John Spencer 13 Jul '15

13 Jul '15

Connected Systems has a client in Providence, RI looking for Senior Embedded Linux Firmware/SW Engineer with strong wireless (BlueZ) experience and embedded C and C++ expertise. Work as part of a team for the design and development of company products, both new and existing. This is a 6+ month contract. Must be able to work on-site, but client will hire over the phone. Requirements Include: * Linux Device Driver expertise including testing and integration * Must have BlueZ Wireless experience * Must have Linux Kernel expertise * Must have experience with C and C++. If interested, please send resume to jspencer at connectedsp.com Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Office: (978) 455-5550 x208 Cell: (978) 621-9743 jspencer(a)connectedsp.com<mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com> www.connectedsp.com<http://www.connectedsp.com/> GET CONNECTED! All information in this email, unless indicated otherwise in the body of the email, is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG july 9 BBQ food + planning
by JeffA Maillists 09 Jul '15

09 Jul '15

OOH! We finished up WAY earlier than I though we would and I'm back in Worcester already, so I actually could come out to the BBQ!!! I can bring some additional burgers and dogs too... Especially if my son wants to tag along, (24yo) LOL. Jeff On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 9:44 AM, JeffA Maillists <jeffa.maillists(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I won't be able to come as I'll be in NH at our church's Kids Camp... :( > > Oh well, there's always next year, LOL! > On Jul 5, 2015 12:33 PM, "Doug Mildram" <dmildram(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Not required, but will be nice to hear from any folks planning to attend. >> >> Tim's bringing some of the food including soda/snacks; >> I'll have burgers and more ready early; >> I lack energy to make healthy stuff like a salad...can anyone? >> I DO have a spare/2nd fridge I'll be plugging in beforehand. >> >> Just based on gut and history, I'd expect 10-20 attendees. >> ===repeat pasting: >> The location is: 540 Linden St, Boylston MA. >> Time: At or before 7pm. >> Food: The usual {Cheese} Hamburgers / Hotdogs / Bratwurst's, Chips, dips, >> Soda. >> If you have any specific dietary needs, please let Doug and I know and >> we'll see what we can work out. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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last-minute BBQ status
by Doug Mildram 08 Jul '15

08 Jul '15

---i went shopping so we have plenty: --(beef,sweet sausage,dogs,rolls) --- watermelon,corona beer,lemonade and......salad/fruits/chips/soda/.. from afar. ICE: I'll have an empty cooler or 2 (didnt buy ice today) if you're bringing ice, let me know. ----sorry to miss some of you. HOUSE DETAILS (for drivers/navigators with human eyes) 540 linden st Boylston Ma = RED house on DOWNHILL-most CORNER of Linden and Mile Hill Rd. Circular drive = (2) good entry+exit, No tower for landings, no rules. Extra points for brave parking mid-circle (oh no! can't be trapped!). Then, extra points for trapping your friends. SCENIC TIPS NEARBY: a mile down Mile Hill Rd has a great view across Wachusett Reservoir best sunset timing is around 8pm (technically, ~8:30 is sunset). : where Mile Hill Rd rises/starts on a steep fork/intersection off Rte 70 ...the corner has a dirt parking lot. -doug maureen...., dogs: peach timber cat: fritz . =

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ZFS Fun!
by Tim Keller 08 Jul '15

08 Jul '15

During my talk, I spoke briefly about upgrading one of my machines from 3TB disks to 4TB disks. Here's a "zfs status" output (obviously with some critical details scrubbed) This is a raid 60 (4, 8 disk raid 6's). I'm replacing 4 disks, one from each of the strip sets. What I captured this output I'd just put in the fourth disk. So that 252h is now down to 15h, and likely soon it'll be even lower. Obviously, I/O load on the subsystem will cause this to stretch out. Note the "New Disk" labels were added for emphasis. bash-4.2# zpool status XXXXXX pool: XXXXXXX state: DEGRADED status: One or more devices is currently being resilvered. The pool will continue to function, possibly in a degraded state. action: Wait for the resilver to complete. scan: resilver in progress since Wed Jul 8 10:30:22 2015 945M scanned out of 11.9T at 13.7M/s, 252h54m to go 945M scanned out of 11.9T at 13.7M/s, 252h54m to go 110M resilvered, 0.01% done config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM XXXXX DEGRADED 0 0 0 raidz2-0 DEGRADED 0 0 0 c3t5000C500637AADD3d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 replacing-1 DEGRADED 0 0 0 c3t5000C50064E9441Fd0 FAULTED 1 166 0 too many errors c3t5000C500637875EBd0 ONLINE 0 0 0 (resilvering) <---- New Disk c3t5000C5004DFE165Ad0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E0F3A80d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E1B6EE1d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E23870Bd0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E2AC08Fd0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E2AE946d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz2-1 DEGRADED 0 0 0 c3t5000C500637879E7d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 replacing-1 DEGRADED 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E2B1B22d0 FAULTED 139 222 0 too many errors c3t5000C500637ACF67d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 (resilvering) <------ New Disk c3t5000C5004E2BE74Dd0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E2BEA7Fd0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E2C0B84d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E2C5397d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E2D0C39d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E2D1F13d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz2-2 DEGRADED 0 0 0 replacing-0 DEGRADED 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E2D48F6d0 UNAVAIL 0 4 0 cannot open c3t5000C500637933B3d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 (resilvering) <----- New Disk c3t5000C5004E2D58DAd0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E2D0821d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E2D3220d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E2D3749d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5006A581C22d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E25DFFFd0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004E129273d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz2-3 DEGRADED 0 0 0 replacing-0 DEGRADED 0 0 0 c3t5000C5006A582FE8d0 FAULTED 146 130 0 too many errors c3t5000C50063747E77d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 (resilvering) <----- New Disk c3t5000C50064D9AB36d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C50064D98E37d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C50064DF7F04d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C50064DFAE39d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C50064E3CBE0d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C50064E401FEd0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c3t5000C5004DE878BAd0 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors bash-4.2# Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG july 9 BBQ food + planning
by Tim Keller 08 Jul '15

08 Jul '15

I'll likely be stopping on my way to the bbq, so I'll pick up a salad. Thanks, Tim. On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'll be there, though I'm coming straight from work so I doubt I can bring > a salad. > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 12:33 PM Doug Mildram <dmildram(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Not required, but will be nice to hear from any folks planning to attend. >> >> Tim's bringing some of the food including soda/snacks; >> I'll have burgers and more ready early; >> I lack energy to make healthy stuff like a salad...can anyone? >> I DO have a spare/2nd fridge I'll be plugging in beforehand. >> >> Just based on gut and history, I'd expect 10-20 attendees. >> ===repeat pasting: >> The location is: 540 Linden St, Boylston MA. >> Time: At or before 7pm. >> Food: The usual {Cheese} Hamburgers / Hotdogs / Bratwurst's, Chips, dips, >> Soda. >> If you have any specific dietary needs, please let Doug and I know and >> we'll see what we can work out. >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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