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Does LINUX still exist?
by Ken Jones April 24, 2020

April 24, 2020

I am trying for figure out what, if anything, of FEDORA RED HAT LINUX is still available. I have downloaded a DVD that I plan to install on my DELL XPS desktop PC running WINDOWS 10. Will it find for me my old LINUX atmosphere? Ken Jones

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April WLUG meeting to be online
by Tim Keller April 24, 2020

April 24, 2020

Hey Gang, I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online. I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!! Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Lenovo shipping Linux pre-installed
by Joshua Stone April 24, 2020

April 24, 2020

Hey everyone, Apparently Lenovo is planning on shipping Fedora on their Thinkpad lines, and will use only packages from the official repos instead of custom packages. I think this is great news as somebody who shopped for Thinkpads before and had to contact support about refunding a Windows license (turns out that wasn't possible at the time). Having a distro pre-installed should mean improved hardware compatibility, and maybe even be able contact support for Linux-specific issues. More info here: https://fedoramagazine.org/coming-soon-fedora-on-lenovo-laptops/ -Josh

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audit root/sudo users for RHEL 6 server
by John Malloy April 18, 2020

April 18, 2020

What is the best way to provide proof to an audit person who needs to know all the root/sudo users for a RHEL 6 server? (I am new at this company, and don't have access to all their resources) We can provide the /etc/passwd & /etc/sudoers file (the auditor may not know how to read these files) We also have the RedHat Identity Management running here, but I am not familiar with this tool. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! John Malloy jomalloy(a)gmail.com

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April WLUG virtual meeting was a resounding success!
by Tim Keller April 13, 2020

April 13, 2020

Hey Everybody, I just wanted to give a shout out to everybody who showed up to the virtual meeting last night. It was cool to see Maddog show up, I'm glad he's staying safe and healthy. Yeah, there were a couple of audio/video hiccups, but I thought overall it went great. I shared my screen a couple of times and that worked just fine as well. One cool thing that was brought up doing the meeting and I thought was worth talking about is "vscodium" which is a 100% open source recompile of the visual studio code editor. The big difference is that the vscode as shipped from microsoft contains telemetry tracking data that gets sent back to the mothership... https://vscodium.com/ solves that problem. We obviously jibber jabbed about COVID19 and folding@home and Logan showed off the facemasks he's been printing as well as the antennae he's building to contact a long lost satellite in geostationary orbit. While it wasn't the same as a physical meeting, when we do manage to get ourselves all back in the same room, I think it's something we'll definitely incorporate into the physical meetings. Stay safe, stay healthy and wash your hands! We'll see what May brings us and decide from there... Tim. WLUG President -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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ansible layout thoughts
by John Stoffel April 13, 2020

April 13, 2020

Guys, I'm starting to work on deplying ansible at $WORK to start managing a bunch of existing servers. The goal is to A) get them consistent, B) learn ansible, and C) automate deployments so if I get hit by a bus, they can have a hope of keeping things going. So my first thoughts are about organization. Ansible is a file/directory heavy setup. And I understand how a task has one or more roles. And then a playbook can have one or more tasks. But it's how to manage the overall site or bundles of playbooks that I want to understand. I've looked at: https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/user_guide/playbooks_best_practices… and I think I can deal with the first layout suggestion, but I'd porbably put playbooks into a playbooks/ directory. But... how to keep them organized as my collection grows. Do I want a new directory structure for each group of playbooks? For example I want to do: - add ssh-keys for logins - make sure right repo(s) are configured - ntp client config - postfix config - NIS config - fstab config - nsswitch.conf config So ideally all of the above would be a playbook each, since for example ntp config, would/could include: - install ntp - install default client config - restart ntpd once configured - etc... Where it all comes down to is keeping all this organized nicely, especially as it grows ever more complicated. All the silly examples of setting up a LAMP stack completely gloss over the actual pushing of content, which is really what we want to do. So, thoughts? Real life experience? Suggestions for good training classes? Unfortunately it would have to be online now, not my preferred in-person training.... John

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Virtual meeting today! Starting at 7pm, via Jitsi!!
by Tim Keller April 13, 2020

April 13, 2020

Hey Gang, We've got a virtual meeting today! We're all going to meet on Jitsi! Here's the location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA The big blue button stuff looks really awesome, but I haven't had a chance to dig into it, however for presenting it looks pretty awesome. I hope everybody is staying sane and staying safe. Later, Tim Keller WLUG President -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Free, viable videoconferencing ?
by Michael Voorhis April 4, 2020

April 4, 2020

Does viable free videoconferencing software exist? --MCV.

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Fwd: IT Revolution: Spring Reads Free eBook Promotion!
by Eric Martin March 27, 2020

March 27, 2020

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Re: [EXT] Re: Physical WLUG Meeting is cancelled tomorrow...
by Chris Thompson March 23, 2020

March 23, 2020

(PS - moderator, please ignore my last post from the incorrect address...doh! sorry.) LOL Chuck. That's not very nice, but...funny! :P Sorry to hear you are stuck with Windows 'cause of "the man". Haven't used it for a rather long time now, so I dunno if these still even exist, but mIRC I think was the last I used (before that Pirch rings a bell). There are great Web-based interfaces if you are maintaining a server somewhere - my favorite there is the node implementation called "The Lounge". https://thelounge.chat/docs Nice thing is it'll stay connected for you so you won't miss messages. --Chris On 3/18/20 2:30 PM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote: > format c: > > (make sure to run from a CMD window with Administrator privileges) > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:22:25PM -0400, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote: >> Do you guys have a favorite IRC client for Windows? >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 1:28 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >> wrote: >> >>> I would certainly recommend organizing in IRC, but for more interaction, >>> Jitsi is worth a shot. >>> >>> Zoom does work very well on Gnu/Linux, but yes - proprietary, so, >>> personally not interested in using them more than I already am coerced to >>> :P >>> >>> Jitsi usually handles rooms with up to about a dozen people pretty well, >>> but often struggles beyond that. Most issues are resolved with a simple >>> reload of the page. >>> >>> Try it out @ either of these instances, no registration require: >>> >>> https://meet.jit.si/ (typically pretty bleeding-edge, so sometimes less >>> stable) >>> >>> or: >>> >>> https://meet.mayfirst.org/ (pretty up to date, but generally more stable >>> of late) >>> >>> Tim, you may be able to recover your ident info with the following, once >>> you've connected with #Freenode. If the name is registered with >>> NickServ, it'll email you at the registered address: >>> >>> /msg NickServ SENDPASS turbox >>> >>> --Chris >>> IRC: wolcen >>> >>> On 3/18/20 11:28 AM, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: >>>>> Subject: [WLUG] Re: Physical WLUG Meeting is cancelled tomorrow... >>>>> From: madserge--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >>>>> >>>>> Never used IRC before but I do have an app on Manjaro called >>>>> Konversation that I think is a IRC client, would like to join if anyone >>>>> can tell me any info about the chat room that would be great! >>>> How did this work? >>>> >>>> I used IRC once before. A friend said "let's try this", >>>> and told me what program to run and how to start. >>>> >>>> The conversation went something like: >>>> Hi, are you there? Yes. It works! Yes. Well goodbye. >>>> >>>> That was many years ago, and I have forgotten the name >>>> of the program. Then I got busy and forgot the WLUG >>>> meeting entirely. >>>> >>>> Diane has been using something called Zoom on Windows. >>>> Google turns up some hints that Zoom can work on Linux, >>>> but it seems to be a binary mystery code that connects >>>> to the mother ship and does secret stuff...anybody know? > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/YCS6I…

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YAICB (Yet Another Intel Cpu Bug) only worse...
by Tim Keller March 19, 2020

March 19, 2020

We should definitely talk about the huge flaw that was just found the CSME on intel cpu's from the last five years and how intel has admitted it's entirely unpatchable... https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/6/21167782/intel-processor-flaw-root-of-tru… Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Physical WLUG Meeting is cancelled tomorrow...
by Tim Keller March 18, 2020

March 18, 2020

I'm cancelling the physical WLUG meeting for March. WPI just put out a notice that they're closed for all events/meetings and I've been contacted by several members that they're going to be staying home out of an abundance of caution or they're under the weather... I'll be in our IRC channel tomorrow night and we can continue the fun online! Hopefully things will calm down for April. Stay safe. Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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WLUG Meeting March 12th 2019!
by Tim Keller March 10, 2020

March 10, 2020

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting! Date @ Time: March 12, 2019 @ 7pm Location: WPI Student Center Rm 129 (Chairman's Conference Room) at the bottom of the stairs. Topic: TBD but I thought we might talk about subsonic and plex. I guess we should also talk about people working remotely and the technologies that exist on linux for remote desktop access as well. Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head off for dinner afterwards. Sorry for the last notice. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Greetings
by madserge＠pm.me March 2, 2020

March 2, 2020

Hello, My name is Forrest I am a gamer and a Linux enthusiast that mainly uses a Arch Based distro called Manjaro. My friend reached out to the group for me and then emailed and told me about it so I thought I would create a account and introduce myself. I would also like to say my level of understanding is probably more on the beginners level of things and have been learning slowly and would like to learn more about other things like raspberry pis and servers since I recently obtained a server from a family members work because they upgraded, I will also leave specs of the two custom built computers I own and the name of the server I have down below, I look forward to meeting you all next meeting. Sincerely, Forrest Server: Dell PowerEdge 2950 (Minimal Manjaro XFCE Installed) Raid Slots 6 Hard Disk Drives 6 (2 146GB 10K RPM, 4 600GB 15K RPM) That's all I know atm Custom PC's: Current Rig Case: NZXT H440 (EnVyUs Edition) Mobo: ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K6 GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 (11GB GDDR5X) CPU: Intel i7 7700K Quad Core 4.2 GHz (No Overclock) RAM: 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 3200 HDD: 2TB FireCuda (SSHD) + 2TB FireCuda (SSHD) + 250GB Samsung 850 EVO (SSD) + 1TB Crucial M.2 NVMe SSD OS: Windows 10 Pro / Manjaro KDE Other Rig Case: NZXT H440 Mobo: Asrock Z75 Pro3 GPU: EVGA GTX 980Ti Hybrid (6GB GDDR5) CPU: Intel Core i7 2600 Quad Core 3.4 GHz (Overclocked to 4GHz) RAM: 16 GB DDR3 1600 HDD: 2TB (7200RPM HDD) + 128GB (SSD) OS: Windows 10 Pro 64Bit

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GRUB failure
by Richard Klein Feb. 16, 2020

Feb. 16, 2020

The other day, my computer crashed to a blank, black screen. On reboot, my BIOS didn't see the SSD that held my OS. I tried swapping the SSD onto different cables and different motherboard connectors. When I started the computer back up, it saw the SSD, but gave me a GRUB rescue prompt. On the next reboot, the BIOS again didn't see the SSD. That's repeatable: warm boots make the SSD disappear; it re-appears on cold boots, but dumps me to the GRUB rescue prompt. I figured the SSD has died and I already requested an RMA, but I can't boot to my Windows drive if I remove the SSD, so maybe it's not actually dead. I don't have the patience to troubleshoot from the GRUB rescue prompt and I wasn't thrilled with Manjaro, so I'm going to try to install good, old Debian to the SSD while I wait to hear back about an RMA. -- Rich

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Reminder: Meeting tonight! Topic: TBD! Open Forum, etc.
by Tim Keller Feb. 13, 2020

Feb. 13, 2020

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting tonight! Location: WPI Campus Center Room 304 (Peterson Conference Room) Topic: TBD, open forum, etc. I'm going to show off Visual Studio Code for Linux running on my laptop with the emacs, git and python integrations I've been using. That'll probably be pretty quick and then we can open it up to a general discussion around what's going on in linux, what people are interested in and what people would like to see for topics. There will possibly be some new people since I've created the Meetup site. Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll head off for dinner afterwards. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Meeting today
by Joshua Stone Feb. 13, 2020

Feb. 13, 2020

Hey all, I'm sorry to say that I won't be able to attend today's meeting because I have some last minute errands to do. Sorry about that! - Josh

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Topics for upcoming meetings..
by Tim Keller Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

I've got some updates and ideas for the upcoming meetings! I've reached out to Daniel Moghimi about doing a talk regarding his work on the various security issues he's found in modern CPUs. He's agreed to speak either March or April. I'll work to finalize the details with him. I'm definitely interested in doing a Keysigning party, we'll just have to work out the logistics and what additional presentations that we'd like to go along with it. I know a while a go Eric Martin showed off a cool keyfob that had his key stored in it. I recently stumbled across a cool technology called "Node Red" which people are using to do automation stuff with IoT and MTQQ. https://www.nodered.org It allows you to create flows using their graphing engine. Another piece of software that people might find interesting is subsonic <http://www.subsonic.org/>. It lets you run your own music streaming service. This way you're not subjected to whatever algorithm spotify / pandora / etc wants to subject you to! I recently helped a buddy build a home nas to run it and it's pretty damn slick. Let me know if you have any more ideas for meeting topics! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Retro-puters
by Mike Peckar Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Some fun reads on retro projects in links to hackaday. I wasn't aware of the book mentioned... https://boingboing.net/2020/02/04/766826.html

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sorry about the spam
by Chuck Anderson Feb. 10, 2020

Feb. 10, 2020

Sorry about the spam. I'm cleaning up spam from the moderator's queue and accidently accepted a 8 or 12 messages.

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Reminder: WLUG Meeting Next Week! Topic: Modernizing the Linux Desktop
by Tim Keller Feb. 9, 2020

Feb. 9, 2020

Hey Gang, This is my usual reminder that we've got a meeting next week. Here's the details... Date & Time: February 13th, 2020 @ 7PM Location: WPI Campus Center Room 304 (Peterson Conference Room) Presenter: Joshua Stone Topic: Modernizing the Linux Desktop with Silver/Blue, Toolbox and Flatpak Our speaker this month is Joshua Stone. He's going to giving a talk about a couple of cool technologies in Fedora! Josh provided me some details about these innovations so I've mashed them up and included them below. Silverblue: https://fedoramagazine.org/what-is-silverblue/ Toolbox: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/toolbox/ Flatpaks: https://flatpak.org/ *Silverblue* s a Fedora variant designed around immutability where a new system image is committed as the new /sysroot without affecting the state of the running system. This is reminiscent of Android A/B updates, although the update backend -- ostree -- has elements of a version control system like git. *Toolbox* is also interesting as it lets you switch into an unprivileged development environment that can be built up and torn down without affecting the host as tools are installed inside a container. *Flatpak* uses the same file storage backend as Silverblue to manage apps and shared runtimes. This app distribution technology allows you to decouple apps and operating systems as everything is built and run inside a sandbox, making upgrades easier. Compare needing only one version of an app to package as a flatpak, versus packaging for different versions. As usual, snacks and refreshments will be provided and afterwards we'll head off for dinner to continue the conversation. Thanks, Tim Keller WLUG President -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Favorite email client for Linux these days?
by Tim Keller Jan. 29, 2020

Jan. 29, 2020

Per the conversation regarding pgp, it got me thinking about my "email flow" Currently I'm using gmail in a browser, but I realize that unless I want to install a 3rd party add-on for chrome I can't really do PGP. What are people using for mail clients on linux? Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Future Meeting idea...Zombie Load Attack
by Tim Keller Jan. 27, 2020

Jan. 27, 2020

I saw that one of the researchers for the https://zombieloadattack.com/ Zombie Load attack is working on a Ph.d at WPI! Would this be something that people might be interested in? If so I'll reach out and see if he'd like to give a talk at WLUG. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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It never ends...
by Tim Keller Jan. 27, 2020

Jan. 27, 2020

https://zombieloadattack.com/ -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Keysigning party?
by Gelman, Ian S. Jan. 27, 2020

Jan. 27, 2020

Hi everyone, I keep noticing several encrypted emails flying back and forth on the WLUG listserv. It occurred to me that we haven't done a PGP keysigning party in a couple of years - maybe we're due for another? It could also be a way to introduce some new student members to the group. Ian (from mobile device)

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