YAICB (Yet Another Intel Cpu Bug) only worse...

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Tim Keller

10 Mar 2020 10 Mar '20

5:51 p.m.

We should definitely talk about the huge flaw that was just found the CSME on intel cpu's from the last five years and how intel has admitted it's entirely unpatchable... https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/6/21167782/intel-processor-flaw-root-of-trus... Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Krichevsky, Nicholas J.

18 Mar 18 Mar

10:08 p.m.

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Oh good. No one was concerned about people breaking the SME at all... ________________________________ From: Tim Keller via WLUG Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 1:51 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion Cc: Tim Keller Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] YAICB (Yet Another Intel Cpu Bug) only worse... We should definitely talk about the huge flaw that was just found the CSME on intel cpu's from the last five years and how intel has admitted it's entirely unpatchable... https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/6/21167782/intel-processor-flaw-root-of-trus...https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theverge.com%2F2020%2F3%2F6%2F21167782%2Fintel-processor-flaw-root-of-trust-csme-security-vulnerability&data=02%7C01%7Cnjkrichevsky%40wpi.edu%7C422bfaf1a8f245918fa608d7c51bc872%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637194595452216994&sdata=UShDDi5LPbx50nrhu0VfP1GDdTFDf%2B7pIaS6uj9Cg84%3D&reserved=0 Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Michael Voorhis

19 Mar 19 Mar

12:10 a.m.

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AMD's looking good..... of course their CPUs will be filled with bugs too. On 3/18/20 6:08 PM, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG wrote:

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Oh good. No one was concerned about people breaking the SME at all...

John Stoffel

1:06 a.m.

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Michael> AMD's looking good..... of course their CPUs will be filled Michael> with bugs too. All things will have bugs. I like AMD because they're the underdog and competition is good.

Michael Voorhis

1:18 a.m.

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All things will have bugs. I like AMD because they're the underdog and competition is good.

Competition IS good. None of my software has any bugs of any kind. Not a one, I tell you. --MCV.

Chuck Anderson

3:01 p.m.

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On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 09:18:48PM -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote:

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All things will have bugs. I like AMD because they're the underdog and competition is good.

Competition IS good.

None of my software has any bugs of any kind. Not a one, I tell you.

It is time for an Open Source CPU/chipset. No more hidden code.

Michael Voorhis

3:17 p.m.

On 3/19/20 11:01 AM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote:

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It is time for an Open Source CPU/chipset. No more hidden code.

Are there any viable contenders, in your opinion.

soup

6:52 p.m.

Power9 / https://www.raptorcs.com/ is the only one with modern grunt, tmk. The whole thing's open. Spendy but not for what it is. -soup On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:18 AM Michael Voorhis via WLUG < wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:

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On 3/19/20 11:01 AM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote:

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It is time for an Open Source CPU/chipset. No more hidden code.

Are there any viable contenders, in your opinion. _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug@lists.wlug.org To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/HK5XFW...

Jeff Moyer

3:19 p.m.

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Chuck Anderson via WLUG writes:

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On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 09:18:48PM -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote:

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All things will have bugs. I like AMD because they're the underdog and competition is good.

Competition IS good.

None of my software has any bugs of any kind. Not a one, I tell you.

It is time for an Open Source CPU/chipset. No more hidden code.

I think RISC-V is as close as you're going to get in the near term. This entry from Bunnie Huang's blog may be of interest to you: https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=5706 -Jeff

Chuck Anderson

3:51 p.m.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:19:22AM -0400, Jeff Moyer via WLUG wrote:

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Chuck Anderson via WLUG writes:

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On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 09:18:48PM -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote:

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All things will have bugs. I like AMD because they're the underdog and competition is good.

Competition IS good.

None of my software has any bugs of any kind. Not a one, I tell you.

It is time for an Open Source CPU/chipset. No more hidden code.

I think RISC-V is as close as you're going to get in the near term. This entry from Bunnie Huang's blog may be of interest to you:

https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=5706

Thanks for that. Now I'll go back to using my Apple II with its 6502 CPU. Does anyone have an electron microscope I can borrow?

John Stoffel

9:32 p.m.

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"Chuck" == Chuck Anderson via WLUG writes:

Chuck> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:19:22AM -0400, Jeff Moyer via WLUG wrote:

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Chuck Anderson via WLUG writes:

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On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 09:18:48PM -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote:

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All things will have bugs. I like AMD because they're the underdog and competition is good.

Competition IS good.

None of my software has any bugs of any kind. Not a one, I tell you.

It is time for an Open Source CPU/chipset. No more hidden code.

I think RISC-V is as close as you're going to get in the near term. This entry from Bunnie Huang's blog may be of interest to you:

https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=5706

Chuck> Thanks for that. Now I'll go back to using my Apple II with Chuck> its 6502 CPU. Does anyone have an electron microscope I can Chuck> borrow? LOL! There's a limit to how paranoid you can get.

Michael Voorhis

12:11 a.m.

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(whoops, didn't CC the list on 1st try) AMD's looking good..... of course their CPUs will be filled with bugs too. On 3/18/20 6:08 PM, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG wrote:

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Oh good. No one was concerned about people breaking the SME at all...

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