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PipeWire pro audio support
by Joshua Stone 07 Jun '21

07 Jun '21

Hey everyone! The PipeWire project has been an exciting project to follow, as there has been heavy development for broad audio use case coverage: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/wikis/home https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/blob/master/NEWS It seems that the developers are currently prioritizing pro-audio use cases as of late: https://twitter.com/PipewireP/status/1401885732587847680 >A little question for our pro-audio friends out there. Now that we got freewheeling and latency reporting implemented, what is at the top of your wishlist for PipeWire features? This should be quite exciting! I've tried several DAWs over the years, and admittedly they seemed to require more effort than necessary to configure correctly with the Linux audio stack. I'm hoping PipeWire will be able to resolve this weakness! What do you think could use more improvement? - Josh

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Fedora 34 updates
by THE HAMMER 21 May '21

21 May '21

I just installed Fedora 34 on a "junk laptop" to play along with. Looked on line and wound up with a couple different answers, and so perhaps they are all correct. My question is when I want to update all the packages in the lap top what is the correct/best command? Also what is the difference between dnf upgrade and dnf upgrade --refresh Thanks Ron

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Carbon-neutral living
by joshua.gage.stone＠gmail.com 14 May '21

14 May '21

Hey everyone! Thanks for another night full of discussion covering many interesting topics! I'm interested to learn more about everyone's longterm plans for carbon-neutral/carbon-negative living! My wife and I have been researching on this topic for some time as we believe there are numerous benefits in reducing energy requirements, and we hope that when it comes time to become home owners we'll be able to start from the ground up with this type of living ingrained in our household! It turns out that there's a *lot* of room for improvement in energy efficiency, and by extension, carbon reduction. While I think transition to green energy is immensely important as a longterm plan, I also think it's important for us to evaluate ways to reduce our carbon footprint as individuals Examples include: - Switching to induction stoves which are more efficient and safer than traditional electric stoves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pftcQ6NGPfc - Switching to heat pump dryers for reducing energy usage with the added bonus of eliminating the need for vents https://www.energystar.gov/products/heat_pump_dryer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh-j0sWBEJA - Switching to heat pump water heaters https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/heat-pump-water-heaters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omivdhxdGv0 - Switching to air-source/ground-source heat pumps to replacing gas/oil/electric heating for hot water and heating https://www.energystar.gov/products/heating_cooling/heat_pumps_geothermal https://www.energystar.gov/products/heating_cooling/heat_pumps_air_source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zrx-b2sLUs I think heat pump technology could be very promising for a wide number of applications, as it turns out that the most efficient way to work with heat is to simply *move* it around, rather than generate more heat through gas, oil, etc. With climate change and global warming being an existential threat, the last thing we want to do is add more heat to the problem! A more ambitious longterm goal my wife and I have is that we would like to someday have a house built to Passive House standards, which is said to reduce home heating requirements by up to 90%: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=secB3R0sIYU https://phmass.org/ https://www.buildwithrise.com/stories/texas-passive-house-weathered-the-202… https://zeroenergy.com/portfolio/all-projects https://zeroenergyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/RPA_Scranton_Passi… https://www.phius.org/home-page Something I find especially interesting about Passive Houses is that they're often able to achieve net positive energy production and EV charging with even a modust solar panel installation. This means they can give back to the power grid with fewer panels compared to other houses built to code, reducing the total environmental impact from solar panel manufacturing. Of course, there's a high upfront monetary cost to transitioning to eco-friendly living, but at least there are programs in place to help: https://www.masssave.com/ https://multifamily.fanniemae.com/financing-options/specialty-financing/gre… Hope to hear everyone's thoughts! - Josh

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Reminder: WLUG Meeting tonight! May 13th 2021 at 7pm!
by Tim Keller 13 May '21

13 May '21

This is a reminder that we've got a meeting today at 7pm! In the usual location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topics tonight will likely include the UMN debacle, the encoder/decoder vulnerability stuff, probably some other Linux related stuff! I'd also like to talk about meeting in person. If it's something that people are down for (I know Maddog is!) I'll reach out to Technopia and see what their rules are. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder! Meeting Next Week on May 13th 2021!
by Tim Keller 07 May '21

07 May '21

Hey Gang! We've got a meeting on May 13th! For topics, there's a whole lot to talk about! Obviously the UMN stuff, as well as the x86 decoder fun. I think it's worth revisiting having in person meetings.. At some point here in the near future a majority of us are going to be vaccinated. I'll reach out to Kevin (if he's not already reading this!) and see what Technopia's policies are going to be. Whatever we do, I think we've all agreed it makes sense to keep the virtual component going as well. To that point, I'll be getting my second shot on Tuesday so I might be not feeling great, we'll see. What do people think? Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Fedora 34 is officially out today
by joshua.gage.stone＠gmail.com 27 Apr '21

27 Apr '21

Hey everyone! Fedora 34 is officially out today, and it has a number of new features! Features include: - Updating to Gnome 40 (https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/40.0/) - Switching from Pulseaudio to Pipewire (https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/wikis/FAQ#how-is-pipewir…) - Switching from earlyoomd to systemd-oomd for handling out-of-memory situations - Enabled transparent zstd compression in btrfs (https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-workstation-34-feature-focus-btrfs-transp…) - Enabling Harfbuzz in FreeType for improved font rendering - KDE using Wayland by default instead of X11 https://fedoramagazine.org/whats-new-in-fedora-workstation-34/ You can try it out today here: https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/ Or try the various different spins here: https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/34/ - Josh

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Zeek - from yesterday's meeting
by John Stoffel 13 Apr '21

13 Apr '21

Guys, I'm looking into Zeek and unfortunately I don't have a second ethernet port on my main system, so it's not clear how I'd run a span port off my main switch to grab traffic. What hardware do people recommend for a zeek data collection node? I guess I could spin up my old WRAP board (http://www.pcengines.ch) which I used as my main router for years before I replaced it recently. But it's not super fast. It's got three 1gb ports, and 4gb of RAM with a 1Ghz single core AMD CPU. So it might do the job, esp since I can install Debian Buster on there without too much trouble. Sweet! John

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Reminder! We've got a meeting this Thursday (April 8th, 2021!)
by Tim Keller 05 Apr '21

05 Apr '21

Hey Everybody, This is a reminder that we have a meeting on April 8th, 2021. Same bat time, same bat channel Date: April 8th, 2021 7pm: Jitsi @ https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: As of yet, there's no topic for the meeting, however, there's a ton to talk about none the less! The PHP git server hack, the OpenSSL vulnerabilities, turns out the spectre mitigations can be mitigated? I'm sure more stuff will come up as well.. As usual drinks and refreshments aren't being provided as this is a virtual meeting.. But soon.. so soon I hope we'll all be able to get together safely. Thanks for being patient and coming to the meetings, I appreciate it. Tim.

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WLUG history
by Anderson, Charles R 13 Mar '21

13 Mar '21

Not sure we are the oldest, but we /might/ be the oldest still in operation. Is GNHLUG still in operation? If so, they are probably older. I was inspired to dig into my archives: An early email from our founder, Andy Stewart: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 22:22:18 -0400 From: Andy Stewart <astewart(a)world.std.com> To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mass-pc.wpi.edu> Subject: [Fwd: Caldera Inc. IT Forum] OK, gang, tell the man what you think! Remember, he is the gentleman who graciously donated the tee shirts and CDROM discs from Caldera... Andy ---------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:30:22 -0600 From: Paul La Fluer <paull(a)caldera.com> Organization: Caldera, Inc. To: astewart(a)world.std.com Subject: Caldera Inc. IT Forum Hello Andy, I hope everything is going good. I am in the process of organizing a conference while in New York. My goal is to rent out a large ballroom in a hotel and have all the usergroups in the area come and listen to Bryan Sparks our CEO and other talk about Linux and OpenLinux. There will be presentations plus a Q&A session. I would like to hear your feedback on the idea and if your group would attend. We would be giving away door prizes like OpenLinux Base and Standard and handing out t-shirts, papers and OpenLinux Lite and OpenDOS to all that attend. Please give me some feedback on this idea. I need to know soon to get things set up. Thanks, Paul La Fleur ---------------------------------------------------------------------- An email about our SECOND meeting (that refers to the first meeting): ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 21:29:13 -0400 From: Andy Stewart <astewart(a)world.std.com> To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mass-pc.wpi.edu> Subject: Next WLUG meeting The next scheduled meeting for the Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) is August 21, 1997, at 7 PM in the Gordon Library on the Worcester Polytechnic Institute (WPI) campus in Worcester, MA. We had a great turnout of about 20 people at our very first meeting last month - I hope to see all of you come back, and I'd like to extend a welcome to anybody who would like to attend. I would suggest parking in the "lower library" parking lot and hiking up the 102 stairs to the library (not to mention the 12 or so more stairs in the library to get to the 2nd floor!). For more information, feel free to send me E-mail at: astewart(a)world.std.com Look for the penguin signs! Hope to see you there! Andy Stewart WLUG ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I'd guess our first meeting was about July 23 or 24, 1997, or perhaps the week before, July 16 or 17. But maddog from GNHLUG forwarded this, which says "as always, the meeting are free..." which implies that July 30th is NOT their first meeting. If they had monthly meetings, that would place their first meeting in June 1997 or before. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Jul 97 10:28:09 -0400 From: "Jon 'maddog' Hall, USG Senior Leader" <hall(a)zk3.dec.com> To: gnhlug(a)zk3.dec.com Subject: GNHLUG - Linux Cluster meeting July 30th at Martha's Exchange Hi, We now have a venue for the July 30th meeting of the GNHLUG, with Loki, a cluster of 16 Pentium PRO 200s, running Linux as the topic of the talk. We will be meeting on the *second* floor dining room of the Martha's Exchange Building in beautiful downtown Nashua. I will be picking up the speaker in Cambridge that day and transporting him to Martha's for dinner, arriving about 1730 hours. For those of you who wish to join us for dinner, please RSVP. The meeting itself will start at 1900 hours, with the speaker probably getting up steam about 1915 hours. As always, the meetings are free and open to everyone, and as a FINAL enticement I will be handling out *free* CD ROMS with the V1.2 Debian release for Intel on it. M. Patrick Goda, a principal of the Loki ( http://loki-www.lanl.gov/ ) project at the Theoretical Division of the Los Alamos National Labs, a Beowulf ( http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux-web/beowulf/beowulf.html ) style computer will be our speaker. I have convinced him to present a talk on the Loki project, one of linking together 16 Intel Pentium Pro machines to create a system that has: o high reliability o high throughput and generally 16-node IBM SP2 performance (over 1.2 GigaFlops) at 1/20th the cost (about $60K)!! Pat is a friend of mine that I introduced to Red Hat Linux when he was a graduate student at the University of Hawaii (long story). Due to the fact that Patrick is a rare find, I will invite the Boston Linux User's Group and the Worcester Linux User's group to join us that night, so I have arranged for larger quarters. Some additional Beowulf pages are from my own alma mater: http://einstein.drexel.edu/beowulf/Beowulf_concept.html including exerpts from the original Beowulf story: http://einstein.drexel.edu/beowulf/original_beowulf.html Warmest regards, maddog ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevermind, GNHLUG is definitely older by several years according to their web page: http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/PastEvents 1996 When Where What Who How Many 31 Jan 1996 UNH Durham Linux Linus Torvalds 200+ 1994 When Where What Who How Many 19 Oct UNH (?) First meeting Members ??? On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 04:13:25PM -0500, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote: > What do we know about WLUG's history? If it really is one of the oldest > LUGs, it might merit a Wikipedia article. It would be great if we could > flesh that out, too. > > This article seems like it could use a list of LUGs: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_user_group > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:43 PM Dennis Payne via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > > > The NatickFOSS group uses gettogether.community instead of meetup.com. I > > don't know that it has gotten us any visibility but the software is open > > source. I've been tempted to join meetup to go to Boston Indie Game > > Developer meetings but have so far held off. > > > > The NatickFOSS group also gets a booth at the Science on State Street > > event at Framingham State. It is a free STEM activity fair for kids. My job > > at the event is to generally occupy the time of the kids so the other > > members talk to the parents. First year I had a playstation controller > > hooked up to my laptop and held it out to any kid that walked by. Last year > > I brought the arcade machine assembled by my son's cub scout den. Any idea > > if WPI does any thing similar? Even if it is something only for WPI > > students it might be useful to alert people to the group's existence.

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Reminder! Meeting March 11th, 2021!! Topic: Random Linux stuff!!
by Tim Keller 10 Mar '21

10 Mar '21

Hey Everybody, It's that time of month again! yeah, we're still remote, but soon... maybe soon we won't be!!! Date: March 11th, 2021 Time: 7PM Location: Jitsi @ https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: The usual random smattering of fun stuff. I'm sure we'll talk about the massive exchange hack.. the OVH fire and much more.. fully expect us to fall down various rabbit holes. As usual, snacks and refreshments won't be provided and we won't be going out for dinner afterwards. I hope to see you there! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Linux video edit SW : OpenShot is cool ! and.... AppImages
by Doug Mildram 28 Feb '21

28 Feb '21

doug> Pardon my non-meeting-attendance all but 1? month since 2020...anyways, (new fun thing or things I got to learn, below) Mostly this email is a Fun/FYI, but I suspect OpenShot could be popular and maybe some of you use it,etc and maybe even one/some of you are dabbling,etc at video editing. Myself, barely so far. TMI Since a friend (for sister's anniversary) wanted to create a slideshow+music ( MP4, say ) I discovered how easy that is on Linux lately (googling offers ~10 or Top Ten choices of SW). And since I put linux on this friend's desktop, it's a great match and way to teach/learn. (gawd, these life-story-in-pictures quests sure can make a camera-bound picture owner/taker have to cope w their mess of jpegs in cellphone) DRUM ROLL: I only tried one offering for video editing, and scored. .......................chose one that some review(s?) said is most user friendly. It (OpenShot) seems great, for my too-simple needs (slideshow of static pics, adding music/mp3) and can obviously do so much more. Output and input choices have huge lists (eg AVI,MP4 variants,etc for output..... you generate/export to). SO ANOTHER THING i learned doing this is: There's a release/package thing I wasnt aware of ... ....seems a too-easy alternate, in favor of pkgs/release-dependent installs/updates. IT IS CALLED an App Image and it really appears to me to be THIS SIMPLE: a) You download one big file, eg for OpenShot a 130-140mb one-executable file that they name OpenShot-v2.5.1-x86_64.AppImage , you can get from https://www.openshot.org/download/ .....which says......... b) AppImage requires no installation. Just download, make executable, and run. doug> Correct, it doesn't unzip anything, and the one executable "fits all". Wow! I will admit that (on my Mint desktop) the first time I run it (as me/plain-user), the GUI intro/setup dialog/window does ask me Yes/No ? for some question about creating something for?on? the Desktop, and I said YES and I did not get anything added to my ~/Desktop. But who cares? More fun anyways to launch it from a terminal and watch the stdout as you run the GUI. p.s. it DOES save PROJECT (not output/export result, but your per-video project setups) in your linux homedir under ~/.openshot_qt/ ...mine looks like: doug0@host:IN_MY_HOMEDIR:~$ ll .openshot_qt/ drwxrwxr-x 2 doug0 doug0 4096 Feb 27 14:23 transitions drwxrwxr-x 2 doug0 doug0 4096 Feb 27 14:23 profiles drwxrwxr-x 2 doug0 doug0 4096 Feb 27 14:23 preview-cache drwxrwxr-x 2 doug0 doug0 4096 Feb 27 14:23 presets drwxrwxr-x 2 doug0 doug0 4096 Feb 27 14:23 assets drwxrwxr-x 2 doug0 doug0 4096 Feb 27 15:17 cache -rw-rw-r-- 1 doug0 doug0 1453 Feb 27 15:57 libopenshot.log drwxrwxr-x 2 doug0 doug0 4096 Feb 27 15:57 title drwxrwxr-x 2 doug0 doug0 4096 Feb 27 15:57 thumbnail drwxrwxr-x 2 doug0 doug0 4096 Feb 27 15:57 blender drwxr-xr-x 30 doug0 doug0 4096 Feb 28 10:15 .. drwxrwxr-x 2 doug0 doug0 4096 Feb 28 10:39 recovery drwxrwxr-x 12 doug0 doug0 4096 Feb 28 10:43 . -rw-rw-r-- 1 doug0 doug0 17352 Feb 28 10:43 openshot.settings -rw-rw-r-- 1 doug0 doug0 1774732 Feb 28 10:43 openshot-qt.log Around 4mb of setup for (so far my only) 66mb MP4 mini-video of PICS w/ 6min of music, the MP4 I exported elsewhere. ( the above HIDDEN dir is a bit of a secret to ignore. ) "Transitions" is a cool feature of the software. ----- I miss the braintrust of you, my friends...my own fault for retiring,moving,etc. -doug (how clueless am I for not knowing about some open SW released w/ AppImage until now?)

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Reminder! Virtual Meeting Tonight!! 7PM via Jitsi!
by Tim Keller 19 Feb '21

19 Feb '21

Hey Gang, We've got a meeting tonight at 7PM! Location: Our usual Jitsu haunt: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: I think the Itanium thing got beat to death, but we can still talk about it. Apparently there's still a pa-risc port of linux kicking around? Now I want to run it as a VM! Daryl McBride (SCO asshole) just fired for Chapter 13 so we can laugh at his expense. I'm sure there'll be some 3d printer talk, some Pi PICO chatter, plus whatever else. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: WLUG Meeting Feb 11th 2021! Topic: Good question!
by Robert N. Evans 11 Feb '21

11 Feb '21

That is not what I see when I query one of the major name servers. I would guess your server is configured differently... rne@P5:~$ dig @1.1.1.1 isc.org ; <<>> DiG 9.16.1-Ubuntu <<>> @1.1.1.1 isc.org ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 31866 ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;isc.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: isc.org. 9 IN A 149.20.1.66 ;; Query time: 24 msec ;; SERVER: 1.1.1.1#53(1.1.1.1) ;; WHEN: Thu Feb 11 10:03:30 EST 2021 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 52 -BE -----Original Message----- >From: Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >Sent: Feb 11, 2021 1:04 AM >To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >Cc: wlug(a)lists.wlug.org, Andre.Lehovich(a)gmx.com, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> >Subject: [WLUG] Re: WLUG Meeting Feb 11th 2021! Topic: Good question! > >Andre Lehovich via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > >>> dig @66.92.74.188 isc.org >> >> Here you go, hope it's useful... > >Thank you. That's a lot of information. > >> quetzal:~ al$ dig @66.92.74.188 isc.org >> >> ; <<>> DiG 9.10.6 <<>> @66.92.74.188 isc.org >> ; (1 server found) >> ;; global options: +cmd >> ;; Got answer: >> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 11995 >> ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 27 >> ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available > ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ >That looks good. >I don't want to be doing recursion for you (nothing personal). > >But where did all the rest of that come from? >I've never seen anything like that! >Did my server send all that? Why?? > >> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: >> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096 >> ;; QUESTION SECTION: >> ;isc.org. IN A >> >> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: >> . 348191 IN NS c.root-servers.net. >> . 348191 IN NS d.root-servers.net. >> . 348191 IN NS e.root-servers.net. >> . 348191 IN NS f.root-servers.net. >> . 348191 IN NS g.root-servers.net. >> . 348191 IN NS h.root-servers.net. >> . 348191 IN NS i.root-servers.net. >> . 348191 IN NS j.root-servers.net. >> . 348191 IN NS k.root-servers.net. >> . 348191 IN NS l.root-servers.net. >> . 348191 IN NS m.root-servers.net. >> . 348191 IN NS a.root-servers.net. >> . 348191 IN NS b.root-servers.net. >> >> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: >> a.root-servers.net. 348191 IN A 198.41.0.4 >> a.root-servers.net. 348191 IN AAAA 2001:503:ba3e::2:30 >> b.root-servers.net. 348191 IN A 199.9.14.201 >> b.root-servers.net. 348191 IN AAAA 2001:500:200::b >> c.root-servers.net. 348191 IN A 192.33.4.12 >> c.root-servers.net. 348191 IN AAAA 2001:500:2::c >> d.root-servers.net. 348191 IN A 199.7.91.13 >> d.root-servers.net. 348191 IN AAAA 2001:500:2d::d >> e.root-servers.net. 348191 IN A 192.203.230.10 >> e.root-servers.net. 348191 IN AAAA 2001:500:a8::e >> f.root-servers.net. 348191 IN A 192.5.5.241 >> f.root-servers.net. 348191 IN AAAA 2001:500:2f::f >> g.root-servers.net. 348191 IN A 192.112.36.4 >> g.root-servers.net. 348191 IN AAAA 2001:500:12::d0d >> h.root-servers.net. 348191 IN A 198.97.190.53 >> h.root-servers.net. 348191 IN AAAA 2001:500:1::53 >> i.root-servers.net. 348191 IN A 192.36.148.17 >> i.root-servers.net. 348191 IN AAAA 2001:7fe::53 >> j.root-servers.net. 348191 IN A 192.58.128.30 >> j.root-servers.net. 348191 IN AAAA 2001:503:c27::2:30 >> k.root-servers.net. 348191 IN A 193.0.14.129 >> k.root-servers.net. 348191 IN AAAA 2001:7fd::1 >> l.root-servers.net. 348191 IN A 199.7.83.42 >> l.root-servers.net. 348191 IN AAAA 2001:500:9f::42 >> m.root-servers.net. 348191 IN A 202.12.27.33 >> m.root-servers.net. 348191 IN AAAA 2001:dc3::35 >> >> ;; Query time: 150 msec >> ;; SERVER: 66.92.74.188#53(66.92.74.188) >> ;; WHEN: Wed Feb 10 20:31:08 PST 2021 >> ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 819 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/JBBKO… >_______________________________________________ >WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/2A6P2…

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WLUG Meeting Feb 11th 2021! Topic: Good question!
by Tim Keller 11 Feb '21

11 Feb '21

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting next week on the 11th at our same time (7pm) As for a topic, if somebody would like to present something, I'd be up for it. I figure we'd all toast the depreciation of Itanium in the linux kernel. Good riddance! We'll definitely be talking about the PI4 Nano!! As usual, I'm sure other topics will organically surface. Location: Our usual Jitsu haunt: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: WLUG Meeting Feb 11th 2021! Topic: Good question!
by Robert N. Evans 05 Feb '21

05 Feb '21

I don't want to join the endian wars. So I'll comment on something else. Stratus did not support Itanium because they follow rather than lead the market. When a replacement for PA-RISC was considered at Stratus we did look at Itanium. I recall studying the FW then called "EFI" around 2003 when I was in the VOS group. For the in-house VOS OS, Stratus would need compilers for PL/I and C and a modified linker to get to Itanium. Stratus never made this investment. What the VOS group did was to port to x86. Today VOS is still a 32-bit OS that runs on Motorola 68K, i860, PA-RISC and x86. This is unlikely to ever change for VOS as the compiler and linker tech leads have left Stratus. For the other three OS's supported by Stratus, Windows, Linux, VMware ESX, outsiders, not Stratus, would or would not be porting their OS to Itanium. (As was the case for amd64). Since the Stratus value add is to take applications coded to run on commodity HW and make the apps highly reliable by running on Stratus HW, Stratus would not move to Itanium until the customers already were developing to that platform. -- One more comment on a different topic: > >I personally play around with ATTiny85 and ATTiny84 MCUs when I get a >chance. Slowly looking at STM8 and STM32 stuff as well. And of >course the Arduino AVR stuff. > Me too, but somewhat bigger/faster MCUs. I still occasionally code in C, but it is more productive with high level interpreted languages on these chips. Lately I'm very excited about esp8266 and CircuitPython. FYI, A programmer's intro to esp8266: https://tttapa.github.io/ESP8266/Chap01%20-%20ESP8266.html -BE

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Disk mirroring in Linux -- MD-RAID or LVM? Advantages and disadvantages?
by Michael Voorhis 23 Jan '21

23 Jan '21

Hi all; In Linux I can do software RAID using LVM or with MD (i.e., mdadm) as a basis. I'm currently thinking of a simple mirror of two conventional SATA disks. The machine is being built to do a compute-workload involving examination of many small(ish?) files, and will not be a desktop or a recreational/gaming machine. I don't know anything about the files or how they'll be examined. How would YOU setup a simple mirror in whatever Linux you use? Why do you prefer your selection? Thanks, --MCV.

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We've got a meeting this Thursday! (Jan. 14th, 2021) at 7pm!
by Tim Keller 14 Jan '21

14 Jan '21

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting this Thursday (Jan. 14th). at 7pm! It's going to be in our usual place on Jitsi: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA <https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA> Nothing in particular is planned as a topic but I'm sure a few interesting things will bubble to the top... like the whole CentOS thing and what options there are for us now. Hope to see you there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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dd-wrt and vlans
by Mike Long 10 Jan '21

10 Jan '21

I have been lurking on this list of a long time and have learned much over the years. Now I'm hoping someone can point me to a good resource to understaning vlans. For some reason networking configurations beyond the most basic setups have never been something I really have gotten my head around. Databases are more my thing. I have a Linksys E4200 router that I have flashed with the latest dd-wrt v24-40559_NEWD-2_K2.6_mini. My objective is to setup multiple vlans with multiple SSID's associated with the vlans to segragate my business, home, and iot devices from one another. After trying this tutorial https://www.ciscopress.com/articles/article.asp?p=1730493 and reseting the router many times I decided I need to understand how vlans work and how to set them up properly with this setup. I would like to start by understanding the default setup and what role the default bridge br0 plays in that setup and then move on from there. Thanks in advance, Mike

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Urban planning software
by joshua.gage.stone＠gmail.com 05 Jan '21

05 Jan '21

Hey everyone! I've been taking interest in urban planning recently, and figured I'd like to try visualizing street layouts. I'd like to mock up roads, parking spaces, intersections, sidewalkes, etc, but I'm not sure where to start. As far as I'm aware, AutoCAD Civil 3D and SketchUp are fairly popular applications in the field, but I'm interested in something that's FOSS. Does anyone have suggestions? Looking forward to hearing from you all, and I hope you're all having a good start to the new year! - Josh

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Web server & gallery & auto-backup
by Richard Klein 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

I'm looking for a replacement for Google Photos. I've gotten used to my mobile devices automatically backing up my photos to the cloud and then being able to share a link to those photos in places that have limited storage, such as free Slacks. I finally got off my butt and got my phone to backup photos to my Plex server, but I can't share a link to those photos on Slack. Also, the Plex app seems to be crashing on my tablet, but I haven't tried to troubleshoot that yet. I guess that means I should set up a web server. I don't see myself maintaining a full website; I mostly just want to archive and share my pictures. I'm running Debian. What specific packages do you guys like? -- Rich

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gmail issues?
by Chuck Anderson 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

Is anyone having issues getting bounced emails from gmail? https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/15/gmail-is-a-little-broken-right-now-one-da…

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PLEX
by hammerron 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

I played around with the PLEX "app" the other day, I downloaded it from the Ubuntu Software Center, and a PLEX app onto my Roku. I had a movie file that I placed in a designated folder and could easily watch it on the TV through Roku. I seems like a very slick (works well, easy to use) system. My question to you all is, can anyone tell me about the privacy factors? Looking on line gives me conflicting information. Does running PLEX on my PC give that company potential access to anything on my PC? Ron

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Lap Top with 28 GB HD
by hammerron 03 Jan '21

03 Jan '21

Very trivial, but anyone is curious I wound up putting Xumbuntu on the machine. It is not a speed demon but run smoothly. Ron

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Happy New Year and more fun is in store for 2021
by Tim Keller 01 Jan '21

01 Jan '21

Hey Everybody! 2020 has been a hell of a thing. Thankfully WLUG continues to endure and I don't see the fun ending anytime soon. I suspect that for the foreseeable future we'll still be virtual, but there will be a day we're all in the same room together.. Stay safe and I hope to see you all soon on a Jitsi call! Later, Tim. WLUG President -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Charter internet - lots of drops for others?
by John Stoffel 28 Dec '20

28 Dec '20

Hi all, Has anyone else with Charter/Spectrum noticed that they're seeing alot more short 2-5 minute outages with Spectrum? Basically it all drops, then a few minutes on my router (OPNsense 20.7.<latest> running on a PCengines.sh APU4d4) I get the exact same IP address renewed via DHCP. It's really really sucky and impacts the kids and myself working from home. Tried all kinds of things, but the damn thing keeps crapping out randomly. I need to get them to look at this, but even with their automated system, and hacving them reset the Cable Modem remotely, it still fails randomly. Cheers, John

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