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Oops! The meeting is also virtual!!
by Tim Keller 16 Sep '24

16 Sep '24

The meeting will also be online at our usual Jitsi location! https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder! Meeting tomorrow Sept 12th, 2024!
by Tim Keller 11 Sep '24

11 Sep '24

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting tomorrow! Time: 7pm Date: September 12th, 2024 Physical Location: 44 Portland St, Worcester MA Topic(s): Last month we dove into the history of Linux distros. I thought this month we might talk a bit more about some more practical linux desktop stuff. How to install software, window managers, etc. Then I thought we might dive into filesystems with a foray into LVM. Afterwards we'll head out for dinner and keep up the conversation! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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We've got a meeting next week!
by Tim Keller 08 Sep '24

08 Sep '24

It's been an exciting month in the FOSS world! YubiKey clone attacks, Ubuntu upgrade breakage! Microsoft has decided it's win 11 AI recall feature can't be removable.. I suspect lots of people are going to get real interested in linux.. bcachefs drama. If someone has a topic they've like to talk to about, let me know! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: Intersection of Open Source and Social Change
by Gregory Boyce 30 Aug '24

30 Aug '24

For the last 5 years or so, I"ve been putting a lot of thought into what I would like the tech industry to look like in the future, and what steps we could take in order to achieve it. What I see is locally managed tech infrastructure focused on local communities. Communities can share the same open source tools instead of depending on large centralized platforms. This would mean that the people who make the decisions about how online commerce operates in the area could actually be close to the users and acting on their best interests. I see this looking like community sales platforms connecting people to the local stores, various Fediverse compatible platforms for Social Media, video sharing, chat systems, and jobs boards. Each service is an opportunity to help people pay each other instead of sending money out of the community. The services could be hosted on existing cloud platforms, but I've been looking at building community clouds, hopefully partnered with municipal fiber. To me, it's more about a philosophical shift around the motivations of developers more than anything, but I'd love to meet with people who'd like to help build a proof of concept. On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 6:14 PM Mike kantrowitz <mike.kantrowitz01(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry I couldn't join for dinner after the last meeting. Sounds like it > was a good conversation. > I'm definitely interested in further conversation about tech and social > change. > > /mike > > > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 2:55 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> >>>>> "Gregory" == Gregory Boyce via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> >> > Awesome. I'll have to try to make it to an upcoming event. >> >> And we will be sure to publicize this on the wlug.org web site as >> well. >> >> > I was thinking about setting up either a Matrix server for chat, or >> > a Lemmy server for a reddit-like set of discussion forums. >> >> Would the chats be logged for later viewing? I'm not familiar with >> either setup. I honestly prefer email lists, but that's because I >> find interacting in a web browser for forums to be a pain in the rear >> because I have to use the mouse for some much, which just slows me >> down. >> >> >> >> >> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 7:48 PM Kevin Harrington < >> mad.hephaestus(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Count me in! I have been working on a book on the topic for a few >> years on and off. Fyi just >> > about every meeting of Robot Club turns into one of those sort of >> discussions. We meet at >> > technocopia Saturdays 1-4. >> >> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2024, 7:34 PM Gregory Boyce via WLUG < >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> >> > Hey folks, >> >> > At dinner after the last meeting we had an interesting >> conversation around the >> > intersection of software/technology and big picture social >> change. This has been an area >> > of interest of mine for a while now, and I'd love to connect >> with other people who would >> > be interested in talking about ways to make meaningful change. >> >> > Would anyone be interested in joining a discussion on something >> like Discord, Slack, or >> > maybe an open source alternative? >> >> > -- >> > Greg Boyce >> > _______________________________________________ >> > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> > Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> > Web Forum/Archive: >> > >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/BNJIS… >> >> > -- >> > Greg >> > _______________________________________________ >> > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> > Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> > Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ERVCY… >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/NYRKA… >> > -- Greg

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Intersection of Open Source and Social Change
by Gregory Boyce 12 Aug '24

12 Aug '24

Hey folks, At dinner after the last meeting we had an interesting conversation around the intersection of software/technology and big picture social change. This has been an area of interest of mine for a while now, and I'd love to connect with other people who would be interested in talking about ways to make meaningful change. Would anyone be interested in joining a discussion on something like Discord, Slack, or maybe an open source alternative? -- Greg Boyce

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I put the slides I'm working on out where people can find them!
by Tim Keller 09 Aug '24

09 Aug '24

https://github.com/turbofx/tao_of_linux Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Meeting tomorrow!! Topic: The tao of linux.
by Tim Keller 08 Aug '24

08 Aug '24

Hey Everybody! Date: August 8th @ 7PM Location: Techncopia, 44 Portland st. Worcester MA Virtual location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA We've got a meeting tomorrow! I'm planning on giving a short talk on the history of linux, how we got here, where are we going, why it matters and delve into some unix history and philosophy.. i.e. "everything is (mosly) a file.. no really.." I fully expect all the usual suspects will also have interesting tidbits to add, corrections to make and generally it should be an interesting talk to help people new to the FOSS world and in particular the linux world why we love linux and why we think it's great. As usual we'll head off for dinner afterwards and keep the conversation going! I hope to see you there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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We've got meeting on the 8th of August!
by Tim Keller 08 Aug '24

08 Aug '24

Hey Everybody! We've got a meeting and a topic idea! We've got a meeting on the 8th! During the last couple of meetings, we've had a couple of new users come by and it was clear to me that we were going into the higher level linux concepts, many of which were flying over their heads. I was thinking it might be really good to have a back to basics wlug meeting, where we get in get into unix philosophy, what a distro is, what parts make up a distro, common things people deal with, etc. Yeah, nah? I'm also trying to turn a page here and start the conversation about the meeting more than say.. 2 days before the meeting so the meetings can continue to have their ruckus nature, but actually have some bit of structure! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Happy Sysadmin day!
by Tim Keller 26 Jul '24

26 Jul '24

Happy Sysadmin day! I hope your day has been less eventful than mine! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Where do I put mount script?
by Kevin Stratton 24 Jul '24

24 Jul '24

I have a NAS that I am able to mount using NFS and I suspect that I can also mount as CIFS. I am currently using multicast DNS addresses in the addresses in my mount command and I do not want to use the numeric style IP addresses that seems to be required for /etc/fstab. Does anyone have suggestions where to place this mount command script? This command seems to needs root access, which may limit where the script with command will be placed.

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Reminder!! WLUG meeting July 11th 2024 @7pm: Location: Technocopia!
by Tim Keller 13 Jul '24

13 Jul '24

Hey everybody! We've got a WLUG meeting this Thursday at technocopia! Time: 7pm Date: July 11th 2024 Location: 44 Portland St. Worcester MA Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic(s): SSH exploits There's been plenty of talk about Ubuntu upgrades, it's worth talking about various backup strategies and options that are out there. If people have other things they want to talk about, by all means! I've continued to tinker with the LLM stuff and I'll have that laptop with me as well. After the meeting we'll head off for dinner to keep the conversation going. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Running a bit late, be cool!
by Tim Keller 11 Jul '24

11 Jul '24

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Reminder!! WLUG meeting July 11th 2024 @7pm: Location: Technocopia!
by Tim Keller 11 Jul '24

11 Jul '24

Hey everybody! We've got a WLUG meeting this Thursday at technocopia! Time: 7pm Date: July 11th 2024 Location: 44 Portland St. Worcester MA Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic(s): SSH exploits There's been plenty of talk about Ubuntu upgrades, it's worth talking about various backup strategies and options that are out there. If people have other things they want to talk about, by all means! I've continued to tinker with the LLM stuff and I'll have that laptop with me as well. After the meeting we'll head off for dinner to keep the conversation going. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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DECStation 3100 on a RPi2040...
by John Stoffel 07 Jul '24

07 Jul '24

My first real Unix workstation, reduced. https://github.com/rscott2049/DECstation2040 This brings back memories. I think they had 8mb of RAM and 525Mb 5 1/4" full height hard drives in external SCSI enclosures way back in the late 80s....

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You-Do-It Founder
by gmcaplan＠gmcaplan.org 06 Jul '24

06 Jul '24

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/bostonglobe/name/john-ahigian-obituary…

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You-Do-It Electronics is dead, long live You-Do-It Electronics
by David Glaser 02 Jul '24

02 Jul '24

You-Do-It Electronics went out of business. It was a very nice resource. Does anyone know of a similar electronics store that is within a 1 hour drive of Woosta? -David

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Seeking Ubuntu Help
by gmcaplan＠gmcaplan.org 02 Jul '24

02 Jul '24

I hope one or more of you can help me. I upgraded today from Ubuntu 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS on my desktop computer. (I know I am way behind, but I can do this only in the summer etc., etc.) I used the built-in Ubuntu update feature. It worked better than I expected and took less that two hours. The data backups I did ahead of time took much longer. Anyway, 20.04 is running but I have two problems. Number One: Many terminal commands give this message: Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-4.15.0-212-generic Processing was halted because there were too many errors. W: Can not find PkgVer for 'linux-image-extra-4.4.0-122-generic' E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) In particular, here is what happens when I try to remove 4.4.0-212. sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-extra-4.4.0-212-generic Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package linux-image-extra-4.4.0-212-generic E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'linux-image-extra-4.4.0-212-generic' E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-extra-4.4.0-212-generic' Number Two: I cannot get audio out of Line Out to my speakers. And I cannot get audio into Line In to make recordings. I *do* get audio from the audio output on my HDMI monitor. This might be related to the need for codecs, but when I try various terminal commands to load more codecs, I get problem Number 1 ! Some of what I read on the Web mentions tex files that could cause Number 1. I do have TeXstudio installed. I tried to uninstall texstudio and texlive, but when I do that, I get the message ant Number One! I'd appreciate any help or suggestions. Thank you. George Caplan email: gmcaplan(a)gmcaplan.org Phone: 978-263-5288 (landline, no texts)

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Problems Solved
by gmcaplan＠gmcaplan.org 27 Jun '24

27 Jun '24

I used grub-customizer to remove image 212 from grub. hat solved the error problem. Then a removed and re-installed alsa-base and pulseaudio. Now sound works.

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Re: LLM's and graphical interfaces.
by Jansen Smith 25 Jun '24

25 Jun '24

(can this email address be added to the mailing list?) the self-hosted webui i use is here: https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui ollama! https://github.com/ollama/ollama here's the docker for ollama: https://hub.docker.com/r/ollama/ollama On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 5:32 PM Kevin Harrington <mad.hephaestus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > Date: Tue, May 14, 2024, 4:49 PM > Subject: [WLUG] LLM's and graphical interfaces. > To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > Cc: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > > > A couple meetings ago Jansen showed up a really cool graphical interface > for LLM. > > Does anybody remember what it was? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/XVOQB… >

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Reminder: Meeting June 13th 2024 at 7PM! Topic: Your own personal LLM!
by Tim Keller 21 Jun '24

21 Jun '24

Hey Gang! We've got a meeting tomorrow!! Date/Time: June 13th 2024 @ 7pm. Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St, 6th floor, Worcester MA. Virtual Location: (back to the old haunt) https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA <https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA> Considering how much AI has been in the news, I thought it would be cool to do a talk/demo about setting up your own personal Large Language Model! I'll either use my laptop of scrounge up a piece of good enough hardware to show it off.. hell I could even spin up a droplet and run it somewhere.. we'll figure that out. Jansen sent me some links to the cool stuff he uses and I'll definitely be leaning on his expertise and others. Here's what he wrote: the self-hosted webui i use is here: https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui ollama! https://github.com/ollama/ollama here's the docker for ollama: https://hub.docker.com/r/ollama/ollama I've experimented with the ollama models and they're cool. As usual we'll nerd out, wrestle with some LLM stuff and have a great time. Afterwards we'll head off to the Boyton or somewhere else for some dinner and keep the geekery in full swing. I'll bring some snacks and refreshments as well. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Hey Everybody! WLUG Meeting this week!
by Tim Keller 11 Jun '24

11 Jun '24

Hey Everybody! We've got a WLUG meeting on the 8th! I know weirdly early in the month because the 1st landed on a Thursday! If things go well, I *might* have a Pi cluster using compute cards in it! I'll keep you all posted! As for the meeting details: Time: 7pm Date: 2/8/2024 Location: Techncopia Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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We've got a meeting next week on the 13th!
by Tim Keller 10 Jun '24

10 Jun '24

Hey Gang! We've got a meeting next week! Note, I won't be using our own Jitsi server but going to back to the old one since we've had so many issues. If there's a topic that people would like us to tackle, I'd be up for it! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: Hierarchical note taking, Joplin, Trilium, browser extensions, etc..
by Tim Keller 04 Jun '24

04 Jun '24

Sadly no. I've looked at DokuWiki a couple of times. The problem is this. I'm lazy. The lowest barrier to entry is simply a directory called "Notes" with a bunch of text files. Being text and using a unix-like system, I've got tools like grep to find stuff. I figure the next lowest thing is some program that lets me take notes that I can then organize into some index and search against it as well. Beyond that now it becomes hosted somewhere, etc. Tim. On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 10:35 AM Mike Peckar <mpeckar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Tim, > > I might have missed it, but I'm curious if you came to any conclusions > about these tools. > > thanks, > Mike > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 9:31 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> At last night's meeting, a new attendee brought up a problem she was >> having and one of the solutions that got bandied about was Joplin. >> >> After doing some research, this might be my new note taking app. >> Another very interesting FOSS tool out there is called "Trilium" >> https://github.com/zadam/trilium >> >> As much as I like google's keep.. I'm fully aware that google capable of >> just pulling the rug out from under me in a moment's notice. >> >> I've spun up U22.04.3 server and I'm going to tinker with Joplin and >> possibly Trilium and let people know what I think of them. >> >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/UDTAP… >> > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Flipping pages: new nftable vulnerabilities found..
by Tim Keller 04 Jun '24

04 Jun '24

I suspect new patches are in the words even now.. https://pwning.tech/nftables/ Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Cool website that explains TLS really well!
by Tim Keller 24 May '24

24 May '24

A co-worker of mine recently forwarded along to me this site: https://tls12.xargs.org/#client-hello/annotated It's fantastic in that it *actually* explains TLS. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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