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Re: [Wlug] WLUG july 9 BBQ food + planning
by Eric Martin 07 Jul '15

07 Jul '15

I'll be there, though I'm coming straight from work so I doubt I can bring a salad. On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 12:33 PM Doug Mildram <dmildram(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Not required, but will be nice to hear from any folks planning to attend. > > Tim's bringing some of the food including soda/snacks; > I'll have burgers and more ready early; > I lack energy to make healthy stuff like a salad...can anyone? > I DO have a spare/2nd fridge I'll be plugging in beforehand. > > Just based on gut and history, I'd expect 10-20 attendees. > ===repeat pasting: > The location is: 540 Linden St, Boylston MA. > Time: At or before 7pm. > Food: The usual {Cheese} Hamburgers / Hotdogs / Bratwurst's, Chips, dips, > Soda. > If you have any specific dietary needs, please let Doug and I know and > we'll see what we can work out. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG july 9 BBQ food + planning
by Joel 07 Jul '15

07 Jul '15

I also will not be able to attend this year's BBQ as I am up in ME. Hope everyone else comes and has a great time. Joel On July 6, 2015 12:00:23 PM wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. WLUG july 9 BBQ food + planning (Doug Mildram) > 2. Re: WLUG july 9 BBQ food + planning (JeffA Maillists) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 12:32:17 -0400 > From: Doug Mildram <dmildram(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Wlug] WLUG july 9 BBQ food + planning > To: wlug(a)wlug.org > Message-ID: > <CAJGZaTu_C_+bPw2Ytb78aGvZ0iTsfM9uOUFM8_DjsyJ6uu4HPg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Not required, but will be nice to hear from any folks planning to attend. > > Tim's bringing some of the food including soda/snacks; > I'll have burgers and more ready early; > I lack energy to make healthy stuff like a salad...can anyone? > I DO have a spare/2nd fridge I'll be plugging in beforehand. > > Just based on gut and history, I'd expect 10-20 attendees. > ===repeat pasting: > The location is: 540 Linden St, Boylston MA. > Time: At or before 7pm. > Food: The usual {Cheese} Hamburgers / Hotdogs / Bratwurst's, Chips, dips, > Soda. > If you have any specific dietary needs, please let Doug and I know and > we'll see what we can work out. >

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG july 9 BBQ food + planning
by JeffA Maillists 06 Jul '15

06 Jul '15

I won't be able to come as I'll be in NH at our church's Kids Camp... :( Oh well, there's always next year, LOL! On Jul 5, 2015 12:33 PM, "Doug Mildram" <dmildram(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Not required, but will be nice to hear from any folks planning to attend. > > Tim's bringing some of the food including soda/snacks; > I'll have burgers and more ready early; > I lack energy to make healthy stuff like a salad...can anyone? > I DO have a spare/2nd fridge I'll be plugging in beforehand. > > Just based on gut and history, I'd expect 10-20 attendees. > ===repeat pasting: > The location is: 540 Linden St, Boylston MA. > Time: At or before 7pm. > Food: The usual {Cheese} Hamburgers / Hotdogs / Bratwurst's, Chips, dips, > Soda. > If you have any specific dietary needs, please let Doug and I know and > we'll see what we can work out. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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WLUG july 9 BBQ food + planning
by Doug Mildram 05 Jul '15

05 Jul '15

Not required, but will be nice to hear from any folks planning to attend. Tim's bringing some of the food including soda/snacks; I'll have burgers and more ready early; I lack energy to make healthy stuff like a salad...can anyone? I DO have a spare/2nd fridge I'll be plugging in beforehand. Just based on gut and history, I'd expect 10-20 attendees. ===repeat pasting: The location is: 540 Linden St, Boylston MA. Time: At or before 7pm. Food: The usual {Cheese} Hamburgers / Hotdogs / Bratwurst's, Chips, dips, Soda. If you have any specific dietary needs, please let Doug and I know and we'll see what we can work out.

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Reminder: WLUG BBQ July 9th 7pm!
by Tim Keller 02 Jul '15

02 Jul '15

Longtime member Doug Mildram is graciously hosting the BBQ! The location is: 540 Linden St, Boylston MA. Time: At or before 7pm. Food: The usual {Cheese} Hamburgers / Hotdogs / Bratwurst's, Chips, dips, Soda. If you have any specific dietary needs, please let Doug and I know and we'll see what we can work out. Topics: As Doug said in his prior mail, BBQ's don't need a topic, but we'll likely be messing with FreeNAS, other ZFS stuff. We'll definitely take a crack at installing linux on Doug's lawnmower, chainsaw and or golden retrievers. Thanks, Tim. ---

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Embedded Linux contract in RI
by John Spencer 29 Jun '15

29 Jun '15

We have a client in RI looking for an experienced Embedded Linux Engineer for a 6+ month contract. I have included some info below. Please call or email me directly if you are interested in hearing details. Embedded Linux engineer to work on design and development of embedded Linux system. Must have a strong prior background with embedded Linux design and development. Prior experience with C/C++ Prior Linux drivers development, test and integration Prior Linux kernel knowledge Experience with BSP development Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Office: (978) 455-5550 x208 Cell: (978) 621-9743 jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com GET CONNECTED! All information in this email, unless indicated otherwise in the body of the email, is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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Flat screen monitor 19" needs fixit; free to good home
by E Johnson 28 Jun '15

28 Jun '15

The power went out here twice today. After the second event, monitor seems to have died. This is an Acer monitor, several years old. Black(ish) bezel; not glossy. Flat screen, I think 19" diagonal. Has been a very nice reliable monitor during its working life. Has choice of DVI input or the older kind of data connection, whatever that used to be. This specific batch of Acer monitors had used a type of capacitor which is known to have a higher-than-usual failure rate, and this is PROBABLY what it needs. Had a twin of this that fryolated same way 2 years ago, and a WLUG member came by & reported shortly after that he got it up & running with just the replacement of bad caps. This monitor has been very steady and reliable until this afternoon, with nice display and no dead pixels, ever. So if you are handy with electronics fixits, capacitors are cheap and you could probably get this working again with only a screwdriver, a soldering iron and a little bit of fiddling. Might be nice for the kid's playroom or the back office, or something. I don't know how nice games look on this monitor, since I don't do gaming. Videos always looked perfectly fine with good color. PM me if you think you want this, since I have to get down under the work table to unplug the power cord & I'm not as spry as I used to be, but can do as long as my knees aren't required to do anything radical before Noon. Pickup after Noon any day, & evenings even sort-of late-ish are okay. I can meet you at the door with this. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. Rather give this away here than trash it, or Freecycle... first dibs to WLUG. Best wishes, Liz J

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WLUG bbq thurs july9 7pm boylston MA
by Doug Mildram 24 Jun '15

24 Jun '15

Announcing (with Tim's blessing/OK) our next meeting is the WLUG summer BBQ at my house ; 540 linden st, boylston ma. <= 20min from worc via 290, .....so many other ways to get here from north/190 ; east/495, etc. Thurs July 9 at or before 7pm. Food details later. BBQ's don't need a topic, but I would love to keep doing+learning a LITTLE with -- freeNAS : my own home server works enough to NOT wanna break it, but smbd isnt working yet ( want to share with win doze) -- other ZFS-able boxes (e.g. my junker/re-loadable PC has pc-bsd with issues, want it to catch ZFS snapshots over ssh for backups ..how hard could that be?) -- chainsaws, musical instruments, tricks+treats for golden retrievers and a cat (just kidding for the meeting, but now you know way too much about me) Maybe someone else wants to bring a tower/PC for abuse or argument e.g. loading something like the above top 2, then studying the result. Or not? What did I forget besides food? -doug also with wife's blessing, if I do all the work.

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Minecraft security
by Joel 24 Jun '15

24 Jun '15

I don't have an answer for this one. But do have an 8 year old minecraft fan, so listening for any answers. Joel On June 22, 2015 12:00:24 PM wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Minecraft server security ... (David Glaser) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 19:32:05 -0400 > From: David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Minecraft server security ... > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <55874975.1080808(a)glaserresearch.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Folks, > > My grandson wants to host a minecraft server party for his boy scout > troop and my daughter and I are wondering how to ensure that the > existing machines on her home network are not compromised given that the > members of the troop will be bringing their own machinesand ethernet > switchesalthough some may be running wireless. > > I was wondering if you could give us some thoughts on how to set up the > network. It is my understanding that the minecraft clients do need to > get out to the internet to obtain a valid player name. I had thought > ofsetting up a seperate Router/Lan for the party, disconnecting the > existing router/lan from the wan and connecting the minecraft router/lan > to the wan for the duration of the party. > > Any thoughts out there? > > -David >

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Re: [Wlug] ls character range wildcard oddity? (Dennis Payne)
by Aljerin Butler,Jr. 23 Jun '15

23 Jun '15

If you're still searching for an answer, you might want to research my websitehere http://customdesktopsolutions.mywebcommunity.org/index.php/help-for-do-it-y… or here Linux sysadmin-addendum | | | | | | | | | Linux sysadmin-addendumLinux sysadmin-addendum Details Category: Creating and using FOSS Published on Friday, 05 June 2015 23:50 Written by Super User Hits: 12 So you want to be a Linux sysadmin? | | | | View on customdesktopsolutions.mywebcommunity.org | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | Al Butler From: "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 12:00 PM Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 140, Issue 7 ----- Forwarded Message ----- Send Wlug mailing list submissions to wlug(a)mail.wlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: ls character range wildcard oddity? (Dennis Payne) Interesting. I see the same behavior. Near as I can tell bash decided that the alphabet is: aAbBcCdD... I wouldn't expect that to be the case but when I played around with various file name that was the behavior I saw. So [a-c] includes upercase B while [a-b] does not. 'ls [A-c]*' will show Berry but not apple. On Fri, 2015-06-19 at 09:29 -0400, Brett Russ wrote: Can someone explain this to my evidently inadequately caffeinated brain? I was trying to use a lower case character range wildcard to list all files not starting with an uppercase letter and I noticed it wasn't working as I'd expect. So I created this simple example and still don't understand what's happening. Dir with two files: brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls apple Berry This is what I'd expect to see: brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls [a-b]* apple This makes no sense. Is this a bug?: brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls [a-c]* apple Berry >From here on are just a few extra examples confirming the oddity of the above. brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls [a]* apple brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls [b]* ls: cannot access [b]*: No such file or directory brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls [c]* ls: cannot access [c]*: No such file or directory brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls a* apple brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls b* ls: cannot access b*: No such file or directory brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls c* ls: cannot access c*: No such file or directory brett@spider /tmp/test $ dpkg -S `which ls` coreutils: /bin/ls brett@spider /tmp/test $ dpkg -s coreutils Package: coreutils Essential: yes Status: install ok installed Priority: required Section: utils Installed-Size: 6020 Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss(a)lists.ubuntu.com> Architecture: amd64 Multi-Arch: foreign Version: 8.21-1ubuntu5.1 [SNIP] Thanks, Brett _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Minecraft server security ...
by David Glaser 21 Jun '15

21 Jun '15

Folks, My grandson wants to host a minecraft server party for his boy scout troop and my daughter and I are wondering how to ensure that the existing machines on her home network are not compromised given that the members of the troop will be bringing their own machinesand ethernet switchesalthough some may be running wireless. I was wondering if you could give us some thoughts on how to set up the network. It is my understanding that the minecraft clients do need to get out to the internet to obtain a valid player name. I had thought ofsetting up a seperate Router/Lan for the party, disconnecting the existing router/lan from the wan and connecting the minecraft router/lan to the wan for the duration of the party. Any thoughts out there? -David

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ls character range wildcard oddity?
by Brett Russ 19 Jun '15

19 Jun '15

Can someone explain this to my evidently inadequately caffeinated brain? I was trying to use a lower case character range wildcard to list all files not starting with an uppercase letter and I noticed it wasn't working as I'd expect. So I created this simple example and still don't understand what's happening. Dir with two files: brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls apple Berry This is what I'd expect to see: brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls [a-b]* apple This makes no sense. Is this a bug?: *brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls [a-c]*apple Berry* >From here on are just a few extra examples confirming the oddity of the above. brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls [a]* apple brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls [b]* ls: cannot access [b]*: No such file or directory brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls [c]* ls: cannot access [c]*: No such file or directory brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls a* apple brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls b* ls: cannot access b*: No such file or directory brett@spider /tmp/test $ \ls c* ls: cannot access c*: No such file or directory brett@spider /tmp/test $ dpkg -S `which ls` coreutils: /bin/ls brett@spider /tmp/test $ dpkg -s coreutils Package: coreutils Essential: yes Status: install ok installed Priority: required Section: utils Installed-Size: 6020 Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss(a)lists.ubuntu.com> Architecture: amd64 Multi-Arch: foreign Version: 8.21-1ubuntu5.1 [SNIP] Thanks, Brett

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting tomorrow! Jun 11th, 2015! Native ZFS on linux!
by E Johnson 11 Jun '15

11 Jun '15

Shouldn't the tagline say Please excuse my levity? But roflol, you guys. Liz J On 11 June 2015 at 17:06, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > And I was hoping to see a file system that only stored data formatted in > iambic pentameter... > ---- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > > > > See you in the future, if you're going that way. > > > > -- Keith >

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WLUG Meeting tomorrow! Jun 11th, 2015! Native ZFS on linux!
by Tim Keller 11 Jun '15

11 Jun '15

Hey Everybody, Sick of your limited file systems? Worried it won't scale when pentabyte disks hit the market? Good news, I've got a file system for you! I'll be doing a talk/demo of the ZFS (Zettabyte File System) naively running on Linux. This is going to be held in the campus center Rm. 129 a.k.a "Chairman's Room" at 7pm. Refreshments will be provided. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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WLUG meeting this week
by Joel 10 Jun '15

10 Jun '15

I am bummed out that home / requirements / life will keep me away from the WLUG meeting this week. Very interested in learning about ZFS details, tips and configuration for the home NAS I am currently building. Any chance post meeting you could share your ZFS slides and info either on WLUG site or via email? Thank you, Joel

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WLUG Meeting Thursday June 11th, 2015 Topic: ZFS on linux! NEW LOCATION!!!
by Tim Keller 08 Jun '15

08 Jun '15

The next WLUG meeting is June 11th, 2015. @ 7pm. NOTE: THE MEETING WILL BE IN THE CAMPUS CENTER RM 129 aka "Chairman's Room" I will be speaking about native ZFS on linux. I'll go into the structure of ZFS and its design principles, and how it's used in production. I'll then do a demo showing off what ZFS can do and I'll create a bunch of different FS types, etc. It should be a blast. Like usual there will be refreshments available. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Next Meeting June 11th, 2015: Topic: ZFS on linux
by Tim Keller 01 Jun '15

01 Jun '15

Hey Everybody, Our next meeting is going to be on June 11th, 2015 @ 7:00pm. The topic is going to be "ZFS on linux". What is ZFS? ZFS is a logical volume manager (LVM), raid subsystem and a file system combined. I'll be doing a deep dive on how ZFS works on linux, it's strengths and weaknesses. Snacks and refreshments will be available. I'm working with Frank to verify the location. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Next Meeting Topic: ZFS on linux?
by Tim Keller 18 May '15

18 May '15

Hey Gang, Would people find it interesting in doing either a ZFS centric meeting, or doing a compare/contrast Linux file system bonanza? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Great Meeting last night! Thanks Frank and Jeff!
by Jamie Guinan 16 May '15

16 May '15

Agreed, great meeting. I learned several things from Frank's talk, I had no idea about the "hot plate" and temperature issues. And it was cool to see Jeff's machine in action, despite the hiccups. I should go to more meetings. #sophisticatedcat -Jamie On Fri, 15 May 2015, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Everybody, > > Last nights meeting was great. A big hardy thanks to Jeff and Frank for > lugging in the printers and showing them off and giving us all a great > education on modelers, slicers and printing software. > > Here are links to things that were talked about: > > 3d Printers: > Kossel <http://reprap.org/wiki/Kossel> > printrbot-plus <http://printrbot.com/shop/assembled-metal-printrbot-plus/> > > Modelers: > openscad <http://www.openscad.org/> > tinkercad <https://www.tinkercad.com/> > > Slicers: > slic3r.org > > Printer Driving Software: > Octoprint <http://octoprint.org/> > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". >

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Great Meeting last night! Thanks Frank and Jeff!
by Tim Keller 15 May '15

15 May '15

Hey Everybody, Last nights meeting was great. A big hardy thanks to Jeff and Frank for lugging in the printers and showing them off and giving us all a great education on modelers, slicers and printing software. Here are links to things that were talked about: 3d Printers: Kossel <http://reprap.org/wiki/Kossel> printrbot-plus <http://printrbot.com/shop/assembled-metal-printrbot-plus/> Modelers: openscad <http://www.openscad.org/> tinkercad <https://www.tinkercad.com/> Slicers: slic3r.org Printer Driving Software: Octoprint <http://octoprint.org/> Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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WLUG Meeting Tonight (May 14th 2015) @ 7PM [!!!DIFFERENT LOCATION!!!]
by Tim Keller 14 May '15

14 May '15

Hey Everybody, Tonight is the night! We'll be meeting at 7pm and learn all kinds of coolness about 3d printers! Jeff and Frank will be talking about and showing off the technology of 3d printing. Cookies/Chips/Refreshments will be there as well. Afterwards we'll continue the discussion at Tech Pizza. PLEASE NOTE!!! We're Meeting in the Forkey Conference Room in the Harrington <http://maps.wpi.edu/map/?id=609#!s/key=Harrington> Building! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Meeting Tomorrow May 14th, 2015 @ 7PM Topic: 3D Printing! [NOTE: LOCATION CHANGE]
by Tim Keller 13 May '15

13 May '15

Hey Everybody, The next WLUG meeting is tomorrow! The topic will be 3D printing! Jeff and Frank will to be talking about 3D printers, showing off a Kossel and printerbot, plus the technology and software involved. !!!!PLEASE NOTE THE LOCATION HAS CHANGED!!!!! We will be meeting in the "Forkey Conference Room" in the Harrington <http://maps.wpi.edu/map/?id=609#!s/key=Harrington> building @ 7PM. Like always, we'll reconvene at Tech Pizza and have a couple slices! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Meeting location update...
by Tim Keller 12 May '15

12 May '15

Hey Everybody, Frank has come through and secured us a location... We'll be meeting in the Forkey conference room in the Harrington Building http://maps.wpi.edu/map/?id=609#!s/key=Harrington Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Meeting Reminder Thursday May 14th 2015!
by Tim Keller 12 May '15

12 May '15

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting this Thursday! We've been tossing around talking about ZFS on linux and 3D printing. I haven't heard back from Chuck about where the meeting is going to be held yet. Does anybody have a preference on a topic? When: Thursday May 14th, 2015 @ 7pm Where: WPI (somewhere!) What: Either ZFS on linux or 3d printing. Refreshments: The usual! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Contacts-Address Books
by The Hammer 09 May '15

09 May '15

Hello Everyone, Since it's been quite here on the e-list, I figured I'd ask a non-technical question? Can anyone recommend a good contact/address book program for off line use? One that has a good export/back up function (preferably backing up as text) I've google searched it, and did not get far with that. Ron

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Is mail working?
by Tim Keller 08 May '15

08 May '15

This list seems very quiet... -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Next Meeting May 14th, 2015!
by Tim Keller 05 May '15

05 May '15

Hey Gang, The next meeting is on the 14th. We still don't have a speaker lined up. I know there was some interest in ZFS vs. XFS vs. JFS. I'd expressed some interest in 3d printing and what OSS software was on the market. Chunk, do you have an alternative location lined up for us? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Beaglebone Black
by Andy Stewart 01 May '15

01 May '15

Hi Everybody, I would like to know if any proprietary binary blobs are required to use a Beaglebone Black. According to my findings, the Raspberry Pi has a proprietary binary blob involved with booting the machine, and also controlling the video. It wasn't so easy to find this information. I would prefer to use such a board with no proprietary software. That's why I'm considering the Beaglebone Black. Does anybody know the definitive answer? I've searched a lot of websites to no avail. Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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ZFS on Linux vs. BTRFS or stick with EXT4?
by Chuck Anderson 30 Apr '15

30 Apr '15

I'm migrating to new large drives and would lke to take advantage of a filesystem that has integrated data and metadata checksums. How well does ZFS on Linux really work? What is the current status of BTRFS? Which one would you trust your precious data to? I've been out of the loop lately... This would be a great meeting topic! "How to set up ZFS on Linux and/or BTRFS". Any takers?

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Upcoming stuff for WLUG!
by Tim Keller 28 Apr '15

28 Apr '15

Hey Gang, A couple things... 1. Speakers. As of right now I don't have any speakers lined up. If anybody wants to speak about something, or would like to suggest a topic they'd be interested in hearing spoke about let me know and I'll work on getting it set up. As for topics that I'm interested in... 3d printing! I know that WPI has a printer (that's running on a Pi even!) What OSS is out there to do modeling, etc? 2. WLUG BBQ Does August still work for everybody? I know it's early, but I figure it's better to start now and get things lined up then end up rushing around later... Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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MEETING TONIGHT!
by Tim Keller 09 Apr '15

09 Apr '15

Hey Everybody, Don't forget the meeting is tonight! See you there! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder: WLUG meeting April 9th, 2015 7pm Rm 331 (Mid-Century Room) Pi and GPIO.
by Tim Keller 07 Apr '15

07 Apr '15

Hey Everybody, This Wednesday we're having our monthly WLUG meeting. I'm going to bring along my Pi and do a quick demo talk on GPIO (General Purpose I/O). I figure we can also talk about what who/what we'd like for speakers and topics. There will be refreshments and as usual we'll go to tech for pizza afterwards. See ya there! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder! Meeting April 9th, 2015, 7pm Rm 331 (Mid-Century Room)
by Tim Keller 02 Apr '15

02 Apr '15

Hey Gang! The next WLUG meeting is upon us! I've dropped the ball a bit and haven't lined up a speaker yet... If anybody has a pressing urge for something to speak about, by all means let me know! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Cryptoparty in Worcester on Sun. Mar 22
by Steve Revilak 18 Mar '15

18 Mar '15

Hello Worcester Linux Users Group! My name is Steve and I'm a Linux user who lives in the Boston Area. I'm helping to organize a Cryptoparty at the Worcester Public Library, and I wanted to extend an invitation to WLUG members. The cryptoparty is this Sunday 3/22 from 2pm - 4pm, and we plan to cover Jitsi and GnuPG. The WPL is located at 3 Salem Street, Worcester, and we'll be meeting in the Banx room. Hope to see you Sunday. Steve

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Free computers and monitors.
by Bill Nelson 16 Mar '15

16 Mar '15

WLUG: Before discarding these items, I want to offer them to anyone who needs them. They are all working and not missing any parts. 1. ViewSonic 19" G90fb Graphics Series monitor CRT 2. ATX full-tower custom built computer a. pentium processor b. Windows XP with discs/license c. 80 GB Western Digital HD d. Asus ATI Radeon A7000 video card e. DVD read/write f. Multiple outlet USB card g. sound card h. 300 watt power supply j. keyboard and mouse 3. Hewlett Packard Pavilion 12" monitor CRT 4. IBM Thinkpad 600 laptop a. Carrying case b. New battery c. All discs/software/licenses Please respond to whn6849(a)verizon.net if you know of a good home for them. Regards, Bill Nelson

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Great meeting last night!
by Tim Keller 13 Mar '15

13 Mar '15

What a great meeting last night! Chuck did a great presentation showing off several different model Pi's plus demoing their use as squeeze box remote media players. He also started to show off the MAME and DVR/MythTV stuff but we all got distracted. I think that could merit a meeting topic all by itself! We had a great show and tell of pi devices. The coolest being the homemade pi based wifi enabled security camera (with infrared LEDs!) To cap the night we ended doing a mini install fest on a "classic" Sony Vaio! Thanks everybody! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Great meeting last night!
by Jamie Guinan 13 Mar '15

13 Mar '15

On Fri, 13 Mar 2015, Tim Keller wrote: > What a great meeting last night! Chuck did a great presentation showing > off several different model Pi's plus demoing their use as squeeze box > remote media players. He also started to show off the MAME and DVR/MythTV > stuff but we all got distracted. I think that could merit a meeting topic > all by itself! > > We had a great show and tell of pi devices. The coolest being the homemade > pi based wifi enabled security camera (with infrared LEDs!) > > To cap the night we ended doing a mini install fest on a "classic" Sony > Vaio! > > Thanks everybody! > Tim. Tim, Do you have a link to that graphics package you were talking about? The one where you just throw data at it and check it once in a while. Thanks, -Jamie

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Python 3 Programming Course
by Robert Schwein 13 Mar '15

13 Mar '15

http://ieeeboston.org/event/introduction-programming-python-version-3-sprin… For anyone interested, the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE) is sponsoring a 5 session short course on programming with Python V3. Bob

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OPENING - Jr to mid-level Embedded Software Engineer C/Linux
by John Spencer 13 Mar '15

13 Mar '15

We have a client in Bedford, NH looking for 2 jr to mid-level embedded software engineers with 2+ yrs of commercial embedded C/Linux development experience. This is a 6 month contract. Must be able to interview and work on site Jr and mid-level Embedded Software Engineers Required: Minimum of 2 yrs commercial development experience Good background developing with C in an embedded Linux/Unix environment Experience working with multi-threaded Unix/Linux applications Experience working with wireless products or systems is a plus BSEE or related technical degree Responsibilities: Develop embedded, real-time software for new and existing products Work with other engineers to test and debug software to get new products to market Please send your resume to jspencer (at) connectedsp.com Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Office: (978) 455-5550 x208 Cell: (978) 621-9743 jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com GET CONNECTED! All information in this email, unless indicated otherwise in the body of the email, is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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Re: [Wlug] REMINDER!! Meeting TONIGHT! March 12th, 2015!
by Jamie Guinan 13 Mar '15

13 Mar '15

On Thu, 12 Mar 2015, Keith Wright wrote: > Jamie Guinan <guinan(a)bluebutton.com> writes: > > > I haven't been to a WLUG meeting in ages. Is it still in the same > > building in the southwest corner of the quad? The floorplan link is > > dead, > > It is not that building, the floorplan has been edited with > sheetrock, hammers, and saws. > > It is in the student center, west-by-northwest of the > central fountain. If you get there, > there is an information booth and list of events. > They will direct you to the second floor mid-century > room, with the slide rule memorial. Keith, thank you for the directions. The guy at the information booth was aware of the WLUG meeting. > > Is there parking available in the West Street lot? The West Street lot was wide open. I didn't bother to get a pass from security, but I doubt they care much at that hour. I enjoyed seeing all the Raspbery Pi projects. I'll try and make it to some more meetings this year. Best, -Jamie

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Re: [Wlug] REMINDER!! Meeting TONIGHT! March 12th, 2015!
by Jamie Guinan 12 Mar '15

12 Mar '15

I haven't been to a WLUG meeting in ages. Is it still in the same building in the southwest corner of the quad? The floorplan link is dead, http://www.wpi.edu/Admin/CC/Floorplans/37678.htm Is there parking available in the West Street lot? Will there be WiFi and/or ethernet available for the Pis? Keyboard? HDMI monitor? -Jamie On Thu, 12 Mar 2015, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Everybody, > > This is a reminder that tonight is WLUG! > > We'll be talking about the Raspberry Pi like devices that are now on the > market and the amazing stuff we can do with them. > Chuck is going to bring along a Pi like device to show off how open > hardware helps speed along the innovation curve! > > We'll be meeting in the usual spot, the Mid-Century Room (rm-331) at 7pm. > > I'll bring along snacks and drinks and afterwards we'll go out for pizza! > > See ya there! > > Later, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". >

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REMINDER!! Meeting TONIGHT! March 12th, 2015!
by Tim Keller 12 Mar '15

12 Mar '15

Hey Everybody, This is a reminder that tonight is WLUG! We'll be talking about the Raspberry Pi like devices that are now on the market and the amazing stuff we can do with them. Chuck is going to bring along a Pi like device to show off how open hardware helps speed along the innovation curve! We'll be meeting in the usual spot, the Mid-Century Room (rm-331) at 7pm. I'll bring along snacks and drinks and afterwards we'll go out for pizza! See ya there! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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March Meeting Reminder!!!! Thursday March 12th 2015 at 7pm in the Mid Century Room (rm 331)
by Tim Keller 10 Mar '15

10 Mar '15

Hey Everybody! This Thursday (March 12th) we've got our monthly WLUG meeting! Same bat time, same bat channel! This month we're going to be talking about the Raspberry Pi. It's come along way since the "A" model has come out! Also because the Pi is open lots of compatible Pi like devices have come on the market as well. Chuck has offered to show off his ODROID-C1 <http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php> I'll bring along my Pi and the GPIO stuff. If you've got a Pi, bring it along and we can talk shop and swap ideas! Per our standard convention I'll bring along the soda and chips and afterwards we'll continue to conversation while stuffing ourselves with Tech Pizza. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Meeting reminder! Next Meeting Thursday March 12th 2015!!!
by Tim Keller 03 Mar '15

03 Mar '15

Hey Everybody! The next WLUG meeting is Thursday March 12th at 7pm in the mid century room (rm 331)! As of right now, I don't have a speaker lined up! If anybody has an ache to present something, have at it. Otherwise, we could do an open discussion meeting since we haven't had one of those in a while. I know in the past there's been some serious interest in what can be done with a raspberry pi. Like always they'll be refreshments and snacks followed by an egregious consumption of pizza. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Linux kernel/driver contract in RI
by John Spencer 26 Feb '15

26 Feb '15

We have a client with a 6+ month contract opening for a Linux expert in RI, south of Providence. Linux internals Device Driver Development Extensive experience with Linux Kernel Architecture development and configuration including Linux OS System Kernel Programming Board Support Package experience Ability to configure, build and release cross platform Linux tool chains. Please contact me directly via email or phone (below) for more details. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Office: (978) 455-5550 x208 Cell: (978) 621-9743 jspencer(a)connectedsp.com<mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com> www.connectedsp.com<http://www.connectedsp.com/> GET CONNECTED! All information in this email, unless indicated otherwise in the body of the email, is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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Speech recognition software
by Andy Stewart 21 Feb '15

21 Feb '15

HI everybody, Do any of you have experience or recommendations with any Free Software that does speech recognition? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Pile o Hardware for sale (some free)
by Pete Wason 17 Feb '15

17 Feb '15

Hi, I have a pile of Dell desktops and servers for sale. And a bunch of other stuff. Some for free as it is either very old or misbehaving in some way. (6) Precision 690 workstations, some missing memory and/or drives, all functional. multi-RAID, multi-monitor. Giant 90lb. boxes, all metal. (4) PowerEdge R300 1U rackmount servers, some missing memory and/or (SAS) drives, all functional. (3) PowerEdge SC1420 tower servers, one has a RAID5 SCSI array, all functional. (2) XPS GEN 4/5 workstations (gaming boxes from early '00s), w/ RAID1. Working. A few Optiplex 740s, some working, some not. 2.9Ghz Athlon II 64 CPUs. Most need memory. PowerEdge SC600, needs new fan and PS. Pentiam 2.4Ghz. PowerEdge 2400, monster of a case, 8? SCSI drives in 2 arrays, dual PIII CPUs, makes an excellent bench+space heater. A few older Dell desktops like a Dim 4550, Dim 5100, Opti 280GX, etc. Working. Miscellaneous used HDs, D-Dock docking stations w/ removable HD modules, video cables, video cards, et al. Broken 6-tape DDS4 autochanger, some new 20/40GB tapes 4-5 monitors which may be fixable; Samsung 20" 4/3 Cavalier 2-bay external RAID box, working w/ (2) 500GB drives G-RAID 5-bay hot-swap enclosure, gutted, (was thinking about turning it into a mini-PC or a SCSI-tower for my Amiga :) Other stuff.. No warranties, obviously. Caveat emptor, blah blah blah blah, yada yada.. If interested I can send you specs directly. Nothing individually priced higher than $375. Volume (or tonnage) discounts are available. Please reply to: pwason(a)clarku.edu -- Pete Wason * Hy Noom Publications * 5088655414 * codevark(a)aim.com * codevark "Aborigine left speechless by steady disappearance of native dialects." -- The Onion

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Wireless mesh network question
by Andy Stewart 16 Feb '15

16 Feb '15

HI guys, I am planning to setup a wireless mesh network at a ham radio event in June. Each mesh node will consist of two Linksys WRT54GLs, much like the demo I showed at a recent WLUG meeting. One of the WRT54GLs will be on channel 6 and carry mesh network traffic. The other one will be on channel 1 and allow generic wifi devices access to the mesh network. It seems like there would be an interference problem if every node allowed wifi access on channel 1. Should this be 4 different wifi channels? It is possible for a user to be within radio range of multiple of them simultaneously. Thoughts? I've never setup a wireless network before and could use your advice. These mesh nodes will be placed outside in weatherproof enclosures with battery power. Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Reminder! Meeting tomorrow! Feb. 12th 2015 at 7pm (Mid-Century Room) rm 331!
by Tim Keller 11 Feb '15

11 Feb '15

Hey Everybody, This is just a quick reminder that we're having a meeting tomorrow at 7pm in the Mid-Century Room (rm 331) in the student center. Andy is going to be giving a talk about mesh networking! Afterwards we'll do pizza at Tech! Refreshments will be provided at the meeting as well. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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sshd_config MaxStartups
by Jamie Guinan 11 Feb '15

11 Feb '15

Hi Group! I'm seeking opinions about an sshd feature. I was doing some work on a remote system (I did not set it up) that seemed to be refusing ssh and scp connections randomly. I looked into it, and finally stumbled across this from sshd_config(5), MaxStartups Specifies the maximum number of concurrent unauthenticated connections to the SSH daemon. Additional connections will be dropped until authentication succeeds or the LoginGraceTime expires for a connection. The default is 10. Alternatively, random early drop can be enabled by specifying the three colon separated val‐ ues “start:rate:full” (e.g. "10:30:60"). sshd(8) will refuse connection attempts with a probability of “rate/100” (30%) if there are currently “start” (10) unauthenticated connec‐ tions. The probability increases linearly and all connection attempts are refused if the number of unauthenticated connections reaches “full” (60). Indeed, the server had this setting, MaxStartups 10:50:20 This just seems like a terrible option. You can DOS their server just by making 20 connections and leaving them hanging. And it breaks any automated scripts relying on ssh or scp (unless you wrap them in a loop until they succeed, ugh). My guess is that the reasoning behind this feature that it will filter out a number of automated attacks. That seems no better than security-by-obscurity, and I know how some of you feel about that. :) Can you think of any sane reason to enable this feature, or for it to even exist at all? Best regards, -Jamie

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linux networking question (reformatted for readability)
by Brad 08 Feb '15

08 Feb '15

(i appologize for the previous message that i completely unreadable.) Dear W-LUGgers, I had some strange network related behavior that left me baffled and i wanted to hear some theories from more experienced network admins. The network layout is the following. The network is pretty simple, external traffic passes through a bridged-firewall (OpenBSD, my choice) into an OS X server (not my choice) which handles NAT/DHCP/DNS et al., and all the office computers are dhcp clients to the OS X server. The trouble machines are linux (ubuntu) desktop clients. The scenario is the following. I was doing work on the bridged firewall (OpenBSD) and somehow caused it to kernel panic, oopsie! So the bridged-firewall went down thus no-one had internet access, Dou! i quickly bounced the machine. It came back on-line and clients were able to access the internet, huzzah! But, the strange behavior was in two linux machines within the network that were not able to access some external IPs. My linux desktop could not access 8.8.8.8, when pinging, i could see an arp who-has request originating from my machine, i could see the packet come into the OS X server. But the request always went unanswered. The same behavior happened to another linux desktop but with 192.48.178.134 (sgi.com) My desktop could ping sgi.com. So each linux desktop had *different* unreachable IPs. The rest of the internet was reachable. I tried clearing the arp-cache on the OS X server, then clearing the NAT state tables, then I rebooted the OS X server, none solved the problem. I finally renewed the dhcp lease on my linux desktop machine and that allowed the ping to complete. What would case this behavior? Could it be stale arp-cache on the linux machine? ( I *should* have tried to clear the arp-cache on the linux machine before i renewed the dhcp lease, but i didn’t think of that until after the fact.) The linux machine was sending out arp who-has requests so would a stale cache even matter? Why would no one answer the arp requests? I am not an expert network admin (its just a side job since the company is only 15 people). I don’t expect to get a resolution but i’m interested to hear any theories. Thanks and cheers, — brad PS. As a worcester transplant to boston, i am really jealous i don’t live closer to attend meetings. The topics of late sound outstanding.

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linux networking question.
by Brad 07 Feb '15

07 Feb '15

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Reminder: Next WLUG Meeting will be Thursday February 12th 2015 @ 7pm Rm 331 (Mid-Century Room)
by Tim Keller 06 Feb '15

06 Feb '15

Hey Everybody, I'm glad to announce that our founder Andy Stewart will be doing a talk on wireless mesh networking! I expect this talk will be both entertaining and interesting. Afterwards we'll be retiring to Tech for pizza! Date: Thursday February 12th, 2015 7pm-9pm Location: WPI Campus Center, Mid-Century Room 331 Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Opening, C++/Linux SW Eng, Permanent; Johnston, RI
by Tim Longua 05 Feb '15

05 Feb '15

Our Client in Johnston, RI is looking for a Software Engineer to help in the design and development of an exciting next generation platform. This candidate will be working with cutting edge tools and technologies. Requirements Include: * 7 + years C/C++ experience developing commercial products * Experience developing distributed systems and applications on RedHat Linux or Embedded Linux is required * Multithreaded and object oriented design experience * Oracle, MySQL, or other database experience * TCP/IP, Socket Programming, Qt and Hadoop are all plusses If interested please send your resume to timL (at) connectedsp.com. Regards, Tim Longua Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies Office: 978-455-5550 x206 Cell: 603-303-8978 timL(a)connectedsp.com<mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com> www.connectedsp.com<www.connectedsp.com%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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??JGAAP.JAR???
by Colin Novick 27 Jan '15

27 Jan '15

Anyone here ever use JGAAP, the authorship Java JAR program? http://evllabs.com/jgaap/w/index.php/Main_Page It is returning errors, and sadly, I do not know enough to interpret the terminal lines to figure out why it keeps returning errors when you run the analysis, even if you try it in various ways. The program is clearly running but there is a catch. Anyone out there familiar with this? Thanks guys! Colin

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The speaker for the February meeting has been lined up!
by Tim Keller 26 Jan '15

26 Jan '15

Hey Everybody, Great news! Andy will be speaking at the Feb. meeting! He's going to be doing a talk on Mesh networking. I figure this will "mesh" nicely with Frank's talk about 802.11*[nn]* networking. Once I get the official title for the talk I'll send out a more official reminder. On a different note... Is there anything that people are interested in that we could work on lining up speakers for? Here's a couple of ideas... * Software defined networking * Robotics * Home automation -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder: WLUG meeting tomorrow (Jan 8th 2015)
by Tim Keller 07 Jan '15

07 Jan '15

Hey Everybody, Just a reminder we've got a meeting tomorrow! Frank Sweetser is going to be giving an impromptu talk about the new 11ac wireless standard. What issues it addresses and likely creates, along with other wireless standards coming over the horizon. Date: Thursday January 8th, 2015 Time: 7pm Location: WPI Mid Century Room (rm 331) We'll be doing the usual refreshments and pizza afterwards. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting: Thursday January 8th, 2015!
by Tim Keller 06 Jan '15

06 Jan '15

That would be awesome! Have at it! Later, Tim. On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > If people can live with the fact that I won't have time to put much > together > in the way of slides, I'll be happy to babble for a little while about 11ac > wireless, and what else is coming down the wireless pipeline. > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > On 1/4/2015 10:30 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > > Hey Everybody, > > > > I hope you all had a safe and happy holidays and a happy new year. > > Due to a scheduling conflict Andy's talk has been pushed off to the Feb. > > meeting. If anybody wants to talk about anything specific, let me know. > > Otherwise we'll consider it an open discussion night. > > > > Here are the details on date/time/location... > > > > Date: Thursday January 8th, 2015 > > Time: 7pm > > Location: WPI Mid Century Room (rm 331) > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > > constituents as "consumers". > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Next Meeting: Thursday January 8th, 2015!
by Tim Keller 06 Jan '15

06 Jan '15

Hey Everybody, I hope you all had a safe and happy holidays and a happy new year. Due to a scheduling conflict Andy's talk has been pushed off to the Feb. meeting. If anybody wants to talk about anything specific, let me know. Otherwise we'll consider it an open discussion night. Here are the details on date/time/location... Date: Thursday January 8th, 2015 Time: 7pm Location: WPI Mid Century Room (rm 331) Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Great meeting last night!
by Tim Keller 12 Dec '14

12 Dec '14

To everybody who attended last night, thanks! Maddog educated and entertained us with the Linaro and Cacu projects and regaled us with lots of humorous computer history. Jon, thanks for being a great presenter! You're welcome back to speak anytime! Next up Andy will be giving a talk in January about Mesh networking. If anybody has a topic they'd like to speak about or something they're interested in learning about, let me know! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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After the meeting
by Richard Klein 11 Dec '14

11 Dec '14

Have we come up with a way to split the pizza bill on credit cards or should I still plan on getting cash? Not a big deal, but I thought I'd ask. -- Rich

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Tonight's meeting
by Jon "maddog" Hall 11 Dec '14

11 Dec '14

Hello, I am the speaker for tonight's meeting. Even though the weather has been bad for three days, it seems to be clearing for tonight, and I just wanted to make sure that there would be a meeting tonight. The topics for tonight are two: Title: GNU/Linux Performance: We are not in 1969 (or even 1984) anymore Abstract: Performance in software is not just how fast it executes in wall clock time, but how efficient it is in memory and CPU cycles. It determines battery life, how "green" a solution can be, and even if a particular solution is fast enough for "real time". This talk will examine these areas, show progress of software and hardware over time, demonstrate someHello, I am the speaker for tonight's meeting. Even though the weather has been bad for three days, it seems to be clearing for tonight, and I just wanted to make sure that there would be a meeting tonight. The topics for tonight are two: Title: GNU/Linux Performance: We are not in 1969 (or even 1984) anymore Abstract: Performance in software is not just how fast it executes in wall clock time, but how efficieHello, I am the speaker for tonight's meeting. Even though the weather has been bad for three days, it seems to be clearing for tonight, and I just wanted to make sure that there would be a meeting tonight. The topics for tonight are two: Title: GNU/Linux Performance: We are not in 1969 (or even 1984) anymore Abstract: Performance in software is not just how fast it executes in wall clock time, but how efficient it is in memory and CPU cycles. It determines battery life, how "green" a solution can be, and even if a particular solution is fast enough for "real time". This talk will examine these areas, show progress of software and hardware over time, demonstrate some interesting systems for developing efficient software, and show you how to enter a contest based on performance and: Title: Project Caua: How to finance your university education while building a business Abstract: While many universities are either free of tuition or give full scholarships, many students can not take advantage of them because they need money for an apartment, food, transportation, books, equipment and other things. Project Caua will show you how to make enough money in your spare time so you can afford to go to university. If, for any reason, the meeting is canceled I would appreciate an email before 1500 today. Thanks, Jon "maddog" Hallnt it is in memory and CPU cycles. It determines battery life, how "green" a solution can be, and even if a particular solution is fast enough for "real time". This talk will examine these areas, show progress of software and hardware over time, demonstrate some interesting systems for developing efficient software, and show you how to enter a contest based on performance and: Title: Project Caua: How to finance your university education while building a business Abstract: While many universities are either free of tuition or give full scholarships, many students can not take advantage of them because they need money for an apartment, food, transportation, books, equipment and other things. Project Caua will show you how to make enough money in your spare time so you can afford to go to university. If, for any reason, the meeting is canceled I would appreciate an email before 1500 today. Thanks, Jon "maddog" Hall interesting systems for developing efficient software, and show you how to enter a contest based on performance and: Title: Project Caua: How to finance your university education while building a business Abstract: While many universities are either free of tuition or give full scholarships, many students can not take advantage of them because they need money for an apartment, food, transportation, books, equipment and other things. Project Caua will show you how to make enough money in your spare time so you can afford to go to university. If, for any reason, the meeting is canceled I would appreciate an email before 1500 today. Thanks, Jon "maddog" Hall

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Reminder: Next Meeting Tomorrow night, Thursday Dec 11th, 2014 @ 7pm rm. 331
by Tim Keller 10 Dec '14

10 Dec '14

Hey Everybody, The next WLUG meeting is tomorrow night in the mid century room (rm 331) at 7pm. The planned speaker is Jon "Maddog" Hall. Afterwards we'll all head out for pizza. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder: Meeting Wednesday Dec 10th @7pm (rm 331) mid-century room.
by Tim Keller 10 Dec '14

10 Dec '14

Hey Everybody, There's a meeting scheduled for Wednesday at 7pm rm 331. Be there or get your geek cards revoked! I know there's inclement weather predicted for Tuesday, so it should be all clear by Wednesday night. However if things change and it looks like the roads will be a mess, we'll reassess. Unless the plans change, Jon "maddog" Hall will be giving a talk! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder: Meeting Thursday December 11th @7pm (rm 331) mid-century room
by Tim Keller 08 Dec '14

08 Dec '14

Hey Everybody, I erroneously sent out email with the wrong date... The meeting is Thursday, December 11th @7pm in the usual place. Sorry for the confusion. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Meeting reminder! December 11th! Jon "Maddog" Hall!
by Tim Keller 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

Hey Everybody, Just a reminder that we've got a meeting on December 11th. The planned speaker is going to be John "Maddog" Hall. I *believe* he'll be speaking about the "Linaro" project among other things. Like usual, refreshments and snacks will be provided. The meeting will take place in the Mid-Century room (rm. 331) starting at 7pm. Afterwards we'll gorge ourselves on pizza. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by Michael Voorhis 23 Nov '14

23 Nov '14

>From SANS newsBites v16n93; relevant (perhaps) to recent discussions. > --Citadel Trojan Now Targeting Password Managers > (November 19 & 20, 2014) > The Citadel Trojan, which in the past has been used to steal bank > account access credentials and was used in targeted attacks against > Middle Eastern petro-chemical companies, has recently been used in > attacks against password managers. The newest version of Citadel now > targets the master passwords for the three most widely used password > management systems. > http://www.darkreading.com/operations/identity-and-access-management/new-ci… > http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/11/citadel-attackers-aim-to-steal-vict… > [Editor's Note (Honan0: If you have not done so already its time to turn > on the two factor authentication features on your account that many of > these password managers offer.]

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by JeffA Maillists 17 Nov '14

17 Nov '14

KeePass is awesome... ;-) On Nov 15, 2014 6:22 PM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm looking for > suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system would have at > least these features: > > - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android > - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google drive - *not* > via an app specific service > - good Firefox plugin > > Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks all! > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by Joel 17 Nov '14

17 Nov '14

Security questions aside, for synchronization of Android files to Google Drive I like "Autsync for Google Drive" from metactrl. Was $3 to buy & install. Set & forget delta sync of pictures, pdf files, etc. I tell it to only sync every 4 hours via WIFI. Taking a picture toggles a sync now. Thank you, Joel On November 16, 2014 12:53:38 AM Randall Mason <clashthebunny(a)gmail.com> wrote: I use password store (http://www.passwordstore.org/) It's the only true Unix solution. It's written in bash, stores passwords in a gpg encrypted text file, and sync is done with git. It's in most repos and homebrew. It includes niceties such as password generation and versioning is nice too (I used my old password for Facebook on Reddit, but forgot to write it down, but now I've changed my Facebook password becomes a simple git log/checkout). If anything ever happens, everything is stored in a format you can easily grok. I have a private repo on my home NAS that I can get to from anywhere. I have a chroot on android; all of those utilities exist natively on Win/Mac/Linux. Because I trust gpg enough, I could even use a free private repo on bitbucket. Just transfer your password encryption subkey around safely. There are various clients/guis out there including supposedly iOS and Firefox. It wouldn't be hard to write one for Android given all the pieces exist separately in open source forms. On Nov 16, 2014 4:58 AM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > Nice! The last time I looked, there were some issues with just dumping the > database file on Google drive, so it sounds like they've made some progress > since then. I'll check it out. > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > On 11/15/2014 9:05 PM, Richard Klein wrote: > > Frank, > > You just save your .kdb (or is it .kdbx?) file on Google Drive. > It's just > > a file that you open and save from KeePass, so KeePass doesn't have to > support > > Google Drive per se. > > > > I used KeePass for a while, but I prefer LastPass. You said you > didn't > > want an app-specific cloud solution, so I guess that rules out LastPass, > but > > it's what I like. I also pay something like $12/year to LastPass, but > it's > > worth it. > > > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu > > <mailto:fs@wpi.edu>> wrote: > > > > Any suggestion for any of the android app variants/clones to try? The > > couple that I looked at only claim Dropbox support, not google drive. > > > > > > On November 15, 2014 6:25:58 PM EST, JeffA Maillists > > <jeffa.maillists(a)gmail.com <mailto:jeffa.maillists@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > KeePass is awesome... ;-) > > > > On Nov 15, 2014 6:22 PM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu > > <mailto:fs@wpi.edu>> wrote: > > > > Hey all, > > > > I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm > looking for > > suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system > would > > have at least these features: > > > > - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android > > - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google > drive > > - *not* via an app specific service > > - good Firefox plugin > > > > Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly > > appreciated. Thanks all! > > -- > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my > brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > -- > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > ---------- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by Randall Mason 16 Nov '14

16 Nov '14

I use password store (http://www.passwordstore.org/) It's the only true Unix solution. It's written in bash, stores passwords in a gpg encrypted text file, and sync is done with git. It's in most repos and homebrew. It includes niceties such as password generation and versioning is nice too (I used my old password for Facebook on Reddit, but forgot to write it down, but now I've changed my Facebook password becomes a simple git log/checkout). If anything ever happens, everything is stored in a format you can easily grok. I have a private repo on my home NAS that I can get to from anywhere. I have a chroot on android; all of those utilities exist natively on Win/Mac/Linux. Because I trust gpg enough, I could even use a free private repo on bitbucket. Just transfer your password encryption subkey around safely. There are various clients/guis out there including supposedly iOS and Firefox. It wouldn't be hard to write one for Android given all the pieces exist separately in open source forms. On Nov 16, 2014 4:58 AM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > Nice! The last time I looked, there were some issues with just dumping the > database file on Google drive, so it sounds like they've made some progress > since then. I'll check it out. > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > On 11/15/2014 9:05 PM, Richard Klein wrote: > > Frank, > > You just save your .kdb (or is it .kdbx?) file on Google Drive. > It's just > > a file that you open and save from KeePass, so KeePass doesn't have to > support > > Google Drive per se. > > > > I used KeePass for a while, but I prefer LastPass. You said you > didn't > > want an app-specific cloud solution, so I guess that rules out LastPass, > but > > it's what I like. I also pay something like $12/year to LastPass, but > it's > > worth it. > > > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu > > <mailto:fs@wpi.edu>> wrote: > > > > Any suggestion for any of the android app variants/clones to try? The > > couple that I looked at only claim Dropbox support, not google drive. > > > > > > On November 15, 2014 6:25:58 PM EST, JeffA Maillists > > <jeffa.maillists(a)gmail.com <mailto:jeffa.maillists@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > KeePass is awesome... ;-) > > > > On Nov 15, 2014 6:22 PM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu > > <mailto:fs@wpi.edu>> wrote: > > > > Hey all, > > > > I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm > looking for > > suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system > would > > have at least these features: > > > > - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android > > - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google > drive > > - *not* via an app specific service > > - good Firefox plugin > > > > Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly > > appreciated. Thanks all! > > -- > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my > brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > -- > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by Richard Klein 16 Nov '14

16 Nov '14

Frank, You just save your .kdb (or is it .kdbx?) file on Google Drive. It's just a file that you open and save from KeePass, so KeePass doesn't have to support Google Drive per se. I used KeePass for a while, but I prefer LastPass. You said you didn't want an app-specific cloud solution, so I guess that rules out LastPass, but it's what I like. I also pay something like $12/year to LastPass, but it's worth it. On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Any suggestion for any of the android app variants/clones to try? The > couple that I looked at only claim Dropbox support, not google drive. > > > On November 15, 2014 6:25:58 PM EST, JeffA Maillists < > jeffa.maillists(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> KeePass is awesome... ;-) >> On Nov 15, 2014 6:22 PM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm looking for >>> suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system would have at >>> least these features: >>> >>> - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android >>> - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google drive - >>> *not* via an app specific service >>> - good Firefox plugin >>> >>> Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly >>> appreciated. Thanks all! >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> ------------------------------ >> >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by thinkbrown＠gmail.com 16 Nov '14

16 Nov '14

A text file in a TrueCrypt container? Logan On Nov 15, 2014 6:22 PM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm looking for > suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system would have at > least these features: > > - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android > - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google drive - *not* > via an app specific service > - good Firefox plugin > > Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks all! > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by Chuck Anderson 16 Nov '14

16 Nov '14

I like keepassx because there is a CLI "shell" client I'm using called kpcli. I use both the GUI and CLI in different scenarios. I have the Android client as well, but don't really use it. Instead I SSH in and use kpcli. I prefer to keep my data local (not in the cloud), especially sensitive data like password databases. On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 06:21:32PM -0500, Frank Sweetser wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm looking for suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system would have at least these features: > > - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android > - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google drive - *not* via an app specific service > - good Firefox plugin > > Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all!

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by Higgins, Benjamin John 15 Nov '14

15 Nov '14

Keepass for the win -- Benjamin J. Higgins (‘97), JNCIA-Junos WPI Network Operations Please excuse my brevity - sending from a cell phone. On Nov 15, 2014 6:21 PM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > > Hey all, > > I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm looking for suggestions on what apps people are Hey all, I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm looking for suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system would have at least these features: - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google drive - *not* via an app specific service - good Firefox plugin Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all! -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Cross platform password management
by Frank Sweetser 15 Nov '14

15 Nov '14

Hey all, I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm looking for suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system would have at least these features: - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google drive - *not* via an app specific service - good Firefox plugin Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all! -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Great meeting last night!
by Tim Keller 14 Nov '14

14 Nov '14

Hey Everybody! Last night we had a great meeting. Logan did a kick ass job on the Asterisks talk! Asterisks is cool than I thought and we all learned quite a bit. For those who were unable to attend, we had a surprise guest! Maddog showed up and brought along a "Banana Pi" and a "Adapteva Parallela". He also offered in the future to speak about the projects that he's currently working on. I was going to speak next month on STEM/Linux software/toys but I'm going to instead step aside for Maddog if it all works out. Also, we're going to work on getting the guy who runs Adapteva to come do a talk about the Parallela platform and his manycore architecture, etc. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder! WLUG meeting tomorrow night!
by Tim Keller 14 Nov '14

14 Nov '14

Hey Everybody! Just a reminder we'll be having a meeting tomorrow night at 7PM in the mid-century room (rm 331)! Logan Brown will be speaking about Asterisk, the open source PBX software that lets you turn a linux computer into a sophisticated phone switch! There will be refreshments and after the meeting we'll head over to Tech for some pizza! Hope to see you there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Refreshments and snacks...
by Eric Martin 07 Nov '14

07 Nov '14

I like it. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Those sound like good choices to me. > > On November 6, 2014 11:57:51 AM PST, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> My wife has offered to pick up the refreshments / snacks for the meeting. >> Does anybody have any preferences? >> >> I was thinking of bring Water / Coke / Cookies (likely Newman O's) >> >> We will be gorging ourselves on pizza right after so we don't have to go >> too crazy... >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Eric Martin

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Refreshments and snacks...
by Tim Keller 07 Nov '14

07 Nov '14

My wife has offered to pick up the refreshments / snacks for the meeting. Does anybody have any preferences? I was thinking of bring Water / Coke / Cookies (likely Newman O's) We will be gorging ourselves on pizza right after so we don't have to go too crazy... Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Next WLUG meeting: Nov. 13th!
by Tim Keller 04 Nov '14

04 Nov '14

Hey Everybody, The next WLUG meeting is going to be held Thursday Nov. 13th 2014. It will be held in the Mid-Century room (rm 331) of the student center. Logan Brown will be giving a talk about Asterisk, the open source PBX package that lets you turn computer into a full service phone switch. Refreshments will be available and we'll be going out for pizza afterwards. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Upcoming speakers for WLUG
by David Glaser 29 Oct '14

29 Oct '14

That would be interestingespecially when combined with mesh networking. -David On 10/29/2014 12:17 AM, Frank Sweetser wrote: > If there's interest, I'd be happy to ramble on a bit about 802.11ac, the > current new high speed wireless protocol, as well as the batch of other wifi > variants that's currently in the design pipeline. > > On 10/27/2014 10:51 AM, Tim Keller wrote: >> Hey Everybody, >> >> Here are the speakers that will be coming up... >> >> Nov: Logan Brown will be giving a talk about Asterisk/VOIP. >> Dec: Tim Keller will be giving a talk about Linux educational software / STEM >> toys / etc. >> Jan: Andy Stewart will be giving a talk about MESH networking. >> >> More information about each of these talks will be send out at the beginning >> of each month. >> >> If there's a topic you'd like to hear a talk about or something you'd like to >> talk about, feel free to email the list or me and we'll make it work. >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>

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Upcoming speakers for WLUG
by Tim Keller 29 Oct '14

29 Oct '14

Hey Everybody, Here are the speakers that will be coming up... Nov: Logan Brown will be giving a talk about Asterisk/VOIP. Dec: Tim Keller will be giving a talk about Linux educational software / STEM toys / etc. Jan: Andy Stewart will be giving a talk about MESH networking. More information about each of these talks will be send out at the beginning of each month. If there's a topic you'd like to hear a talk about or something you'd like to talk about, feel free to email the list or me and we'll make it work. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Topics for next meeting...
by Tim Keller 16 Oct '14

16 Oct '14

I figure we're half way through October at this point, we should start thinking about what we'd like talk about for a topic next month. One area that's of interest to me with young kids is educational programs that work on linux. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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WLUG Meeting Tonight
by Chuck Anderson 09 Oct '14

09 Oct '14

For what its worth at this point in time, a bunch of us ARE going to be at the meeting tonight, including myself.

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Musing about meetings...
by Tim Keller 09 Oct '14

09 Oct '14

Okay Gang, In the 10+ years that this group has been in existence many of us have gotten married, had a couple of kids, etc. This means that planning for a WLUG meeting needs to happen in a much more scheduled manner. Sending out a meeting reminder the day before a meeting just doesn't cut it anymore. I've spoken with Chuck and things are going to be changing. However, before we do anything, I think it makes sense to ask some questions. Does the first Wednesday of every month work for everybody? Would going back to the Wed/Thurs alternating schedule work better for people? What I'd like to implement is an automated meeting system that'll automatically send a reminder at the beginning of the month and then a subsequent reminder the day or two before. I'd love input on this. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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The "broken" text file (was: I guess this is goodbye... )
by E Johnson 09 Oct '14

09 Oct '14

Thanks, Keith. The program doesn't crash at all, and I don't think it is broken. It just can't do certain things that it used to do. This program is called Geneweb, and it's free, GNU, open-source, etc. http://opensource.geneanet.org/projects/geneweb. I am running version 5.01 which is not the latest, but I'm keeping it because in versions starting from 6, they changed something, and a mod that I installed (that I didn't write) that allows a display of three generations before and after the individual won't work any more. The data in the text file (called the base), containing various types of information about the individual, also contains some numbers and so forth, linking that person to his/her parents, children, spouse, etc. The program will access this file display an individual and parents, children, etc, if known in a web page that is nicely formatted; that's fine. What happens since May 2012 is that from the top page there is a choice of displaying all surnames (alphabetical), or a box in which one can input a surname, which then will result in a display of all persons with that name. That won't work now, and neither will the all-surnames display work. One can also choose to display persons sorted on title or estate, which also doesn't work. The problem really is in the text file (the base). I have several different databases here, and the others, one of which contains 50,000 individuals, perform perfectly. But in my big database, it hangs, seeming to get lost, when asked to display surnames or estates. The data in the text file is supposed to look like this, more or less: 0 @I1@ INDI 1 NAME Bob /Cox/ 1 SEX M 1 FAMS @F1@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 11 FEB 2006 0 @I2@ INDI 1 NAME Joann /Para/ 1 SEX F 1 FAMS @F1@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 11 FEB 2006 0 @I3@ INDI 1 NAME Bobby Jo /Cox/ 1 SEX M 1 FAMC @F1@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 11 FEB 2006 0 @F1@ FAM 1 HUSB @I1@ 1 WIFE @I2@ 1 MARR 1 CHIL @I3@ 0 TRLR I also can't create a backup or copy to anywhere, which is crucial, and I can't move the base file, either to another location on the hard drive or to another device. I also can't get it to re-sort, which would be nice, because that cleans up "ghosts" or leftover info on individuals that don't "exist" any more because they have been merged with another one who turned out to be the same person. This problem first cropped up when I had either 86,000 individuals or 82,000 individuals, 2 1/2 years ago. If I ever use the wrong terminology, I aploogize, but I'm not an IT specialist. I am a Linux User located in Worcester. Last time I wrote a program, it was in Basic. I should have said, I guess, is that there must be some bad characters in this text file "base", which makes it impossible for the program that uses it to perform certain functions, such as Sort, or to display certain data, such as all persons of the surname {Whatever}. Liz I didn't know what could be meant by "broken text file", now I see that you mean "broken file processing program". Do you have the source for the geneology program? If not, insert rant here. Does the program crash as soon as you import the file, or only when you do something particular? My first impulse would be to put printf commands into the input procedure. Do you have a spec for what the data is supposed to look like, or is this one of those take-the-money-and-(run|hide| sell updates) programs, whose authors think that's super double secret eye pee? > The text file has been broken since May 2012. This is a genealogical > database, that runs in a program that accesses the file, which consists of > names, dates, places, etc, plus notes. I think the bogus character might be > an at sign @ but if so, it won't help to search for it, because GEDCOMS > contain several @ for each individual. My database contains 115,000 > individuals. I think I know what family (surname) I was working on when it > broke, though, and it still hangs there. I guess I could grep the file for > that surname and get it to output a couple of lines after it finds each > instance.

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I guess this is goodbye to WLUG
by Joel 08 Oct '14

08 Oct '14

Sent messages last month asking about the monthly meeting. No response in a month. No messages in a month. My time with WLUG was fun & informative. I wish you all health & happiness. Thank you, Joel

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Subject: Is there a WLUG meeting tonight?
by joel d 11 Sep '14

11 Sep '14

Disabled digest mode on my subscription this morning, so I would not read WLUG meeting replies tomorrow morning. Checked wlug.org website but could not find today's current messages there (in case I am still a digest e-mail guy). Now hours later still wondering about percent chance of tonight's WLUG meeting. I am not driving 60 minutes R.T. for a maybe. WLUG meeting or not, everyone have a good night! Joel Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:50:24 -0400 From: joel d <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Wlug] Is there a WLUG meeting tonight? To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Cc: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <CAHLVwo8C55enazQT-4p7FfeP+ NVdi9ba2OLBRL=Piq7k8QbNuQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Have not heard much from WLUG e-mail group in past weeks. Could be just a busy time of year for all, just like me. Is there a meeting this evening at WPI at 7pm our the usual location? Thank you, Joel

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Is there a WLUG meeting tonight?
by joel d 11 Sep '14

11 Sep '14

Have not heard much from WLUG e-mail group in past weeks. Could be just a busy time of year for all, just like me. Is there a meeting this evening at WPI at 7pm our the usual location? Thank you, Joel

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Mencoder Too Many Audio Packets
by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com 30 Aug '14

30 Aug '14

I've been encoding some dvds for a while. I purchased The Incredible Hulk: The Complete Animated Collection some time ago. It is PAL encoded but the only way to legally purchase the 1982 series. Encoding those worked fine but when I tried encoding the 1966 series I encountered problems with three episodes. Episodes 4, 8, and 13 produced the error: Too many audio packets in the buffer: (4096 in 8257533 bytes). Maybe you are playing a non-interleaved stream/file or the codec failed? For AVI files, try to force non-interleaved mode with the -ni option. I've found various suggestions on fixing it (ac3_fixed instead of ac3, various combinations of -mc and -ofs). None of the fixes worked. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

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OPENING - Sr SW Engineer - Embedded Linux, C, Java - contract
by John Spencer 28 Aug '14

28 Aug '14

Our client in Boston as a contract opening for a Sr Embedded Software Engineer for a 6+ month contract. Must be able to interview and work on site. Client requires US citizens or Greencard holders. Development and debug of complex Embedded software. Must have a strong background with embedded Linux included driver level experience. Strong C, C++ and ability to write embedded Java. Excellent communications skills as some client interaction may be required. Please send your resume to jspencer (at) connectedsp.com Your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies Office: 978-455-5550 x208 Cell: 978-621-9743 jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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Announce: WLUG Meeting 8/14 7PM, Python
by Chuck Anderson 12 Aug '14

12 Aug '14

Join us for the August meeting of the Worcester Linux Users' Group this Thursday, August 14 at 7:00 PM. Tim Keller will be giving a talk titled "Python: The Sysadmins Chainsaw Swissarmy Knife". We will be meeting at WPI's Campus Center, in the Mid-Century Room, room 331. Afterwards we will go out for pizza. Tim Keller Python: The Sysadmins Chainsaw Swissarmy Knife Thursday August 14, 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Century Room 331 See you there, Chuck

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Meeting on the 14th?
by Tim Keller 12 Aug '14

12 Aug '14

By my reckoning the next meeting is the 14th? If nobody has a topic idea I'd be willing to do a quick talk on "Python for sysadmins". Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Literacy Volunteers of Greater Worcester need help
by Chuck Anderson 10 Aug '14

10 Aug '14

Prof. Micha Hofri has asked WLUG if anyone would like to volunteer to provide IT consulting for the Literacy Volunteers of Greater Worcester. Details below. You can contact Prof. Hofri at hofri(a)WPI.EDU if you are interested. Thanks, Chuck ----- Forwarded message from Micha Hofri <hofri(a)WPI.EDU> ----- From: Micha Hofri <hofri(a)WPI.EDU> Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Literacy Volunteers of Greater Worcester need help ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Colleagues, The letter below is from a daughter of friends, who has recently started at the Worcester public library... she describes it well. Do you know of a student, or a small group, who would be able and willing to help in the matter? I believe she expects pro bono consulting, rather than actual development, but realize I have not verified. Please let me know, or point the interested parties to Ellen Benz directly. Thank you, --Micha -------- Forwarded Message -------- Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:32:09 +0000 From: Ellen Benz <Ebenz(a)lvgw.org> To: hofri(a)wpi.edu <hofri(a)WPI.EDU> Hi Professor Hofri, I hope this email finds you well. ..... I have started a new job as Executive Director of Literacy Volunteers of Greater Worcester – a non-profit organization which teaches English as a Second Language to immigrants and refugees here in Worcester. Worcester has been chosen as a resettlement community for refugees, and as such, is experiencing an influx of people from distressed lands, such as Sudan and Syria. In order to accommodate this growing need, and help LVGW thrive, we must update and modernize our entire IT structure. The first thing I learned when I started on Monday is that our server doesn’t work properly, we are unable to link our two sites, and our website is terribly lacking. We have an office manager who is proficient in maintaining our database (we are using Access) and helps troubleshoot issues when they arise, but she is not an IT specialist. We need someone who can look at what our needs are and suggest a plan of action and products. I was wondering if you might have the names of several WPI students who could help us out on a volunteer basis – we could even design an internship program for the right student. Please let me know if you can think of anyone with this skillset and interest to help further this worthy cause. If you do not have any names of students, who do you think I should contact at WPI to find someone? I’d greatly appreciate any assistance/advice that you can give me. Please either email me at the address above or you can call me at work at 508-754-8056 or at home at 508-363-1443. All the best, Ellen /Ellen Benz/ Executive Director Literacy Volunteers of Greater Worcester 3 Salem Street - Room 332 Worcester Public Library Worcester, MA 01608 508-754-8056 ebenz(a)lvgw.org <mailto:ebenz@lvgw.org> like us on FACEBOOK <http://www.facebook.com/pages/Literacy-Volunteers-of-Greater-Worcester/2635…> ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 130, Issue 1
by Aljerin Butler,Jr. 05 Aug '14

05 Aug '14

Re: Spreading GNU/Linux to the masses Hi James, If you are concerned about your knowledge in Linux, I have just the resource for you so that you can get up to speed. I've been working on my website for years and try to cover all the bases on Open Source. You can get started with my section for newbies. When you feel a little more ambitious, hang out in my Help for Do-It-Yourselfers - I just finished a major expansion on Linux system administration you can also find there. Al Butler Custom Desktop Solutions http://customlinux.tripod.com/ Custom Desktop Solutions Custom Desktop Solutions home page View on customlinux.tripod.com Preview by Yahoo On Monday, August 4, 2014 12:00 PM, "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > > >----- Forwarded Message ----- > >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Spreading GNU/Linux to the masses (Frank Sweetser) > 2. Re: Spreading GNU/Linux to the masses (James Gray) > >Hi James, > > have no fear - the WLUG meetings are intentionally inclusive of users of >all levels, all the way out to people who have only heard of linux and are >curious to know more. While the meeting topics occasionally delve into deeper >technical topics, they're always done with the less experienced users in mind, >plus everyone is always welcome to throw out requests for meeting topics. > >Don't worry about keeping up - all are welcome! > >Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that >Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. >Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > >On 8/2/2014 4:13 PM, James Barclay wrote: >> I haven't been to one of the meetings at WPI as of yet even though I only live >> near Elm Park (Looks really nice now, eh?) and here is why: >> >> I'm afraid I'll be attending an engineering and science meeting where things >> like servers will be discussed. And algorithms will be presented and >> displayed for discussion; I'm just not that good. I'm just not at the Knuth >> level at all and nowhere near someone like Stallman or Raymond. Who is? >> >> I'm what they call an "amateur Linux user and experimenter" and not an >> engineer of scientist. I can program in various popular languages and use >> emacs as editor. I can tailor my distro to do what I need and want, but I'm >> not one to gin up my own Linux. I've even messed with BeOS. I want to spread >> the word and maybe even host a Linux class and host an installation party- at >> the WPL(?). I wonder if someone can sponsor St. IGNUcious (Stallman) seminar. >> >> I'd sure like Bruce Perens to do one, but I'm for FS. Running Netrunner 14 >> (Kubuntu base) and just love it. Its a GNU/Linux. I want GNU/Linux to be THE >> home user's OS. >> >> I have been studying security and vulnerabilities so I don't have Facebook, >> Twitter or use too many browsers that spy and track. My new email is from >> Google (Ok OK, I know), but at least Google's server is a Linux. I also use >> Midori. >> >> I don't use anything Microsoft unless its on the WINE lists. I know nothing >> about Apple and can't afford it. >> >> I built my own 32bit rig and have built three others and altered more. I dig >> hardware and junk piles. >> >> I'm also disabled, so I live only on Soc. Sec. retirement. I do have a good car. >> >> Please advise me if I am appropriate for our WLUG. >> >> Thanks for the read. >> >> Jim Barclay > > > >I think you'll fit right in. I'll try not to spout out any algorithms, but no promises, OK :) Seriously, I don't think we're a very intimidating group. Just come prepared to not know everything and be willing to ask questions. > >On Aug 4, 2014 12:36 AM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > >>Hi James, >> >> have no fear - the WLUG meetings are intentionally inclusive of users of >>all levels, all the way out to people who have only heard of linux and are >>curious to know more. While the meeting topics occasionally delve into deeper >>technical topics, they're always done with the less experienced users in mind, >>plus everyone is always welcome to throw out requests for meeting topics. >> >>Don't worry about keeping up - all are welcome! >> >>Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that >>Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. >>Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken >> >>On 8/2/2014 4:13 PM, James Barclay wrote: >>> I haven't been to one of the meetings at WPI as of yet even though I only live >>> near Elm Park (Looks really nice now, eh?) and here is why: >>> >>> I'm afraid I'll be attending an engineering and science meeting where things >>> like servers will be discussed. And algorithms will be presented and >>> displayed for discussion; I'm just not that good. I'm just not at the Knuth >>> level at all and nowhere near someone like Stallman or Raymond. Who is? >>> >>> I'm what they call an "amateur Linux user and experimenter" and not an >>> engineer of scientist. I can program in various popular languages and use >>> emacs as editor. I can tailor my distro to do what I need and want, but I'm >>> not one to gin up my own Linux. I've even messed with BeOS. I want to spread >>> the word and maybe even host a Linux class and host an installation party- at >>> the WPL(?). I wonder if someone can sponsor St. IGNUcious (Stallman) seminar. >>> >>> I'd sure like Bruce Perens to do one, but I'm for FS. Running Netrunner 14 >>> (Kubuntu base) and just love it. Its a GNU/Linux. I want GNU/Linux to be THE >>> home user's OS. >>> >>> I have been studying security and vulnerabilities so I don't have Facebook, >>> Twitter or use too many browsers that spy and track. My new email is from >>> Google (Ok OK, I know), but at least Google's server is a Linux. I also use >>> Midori. >>> >>> I don't use anything Microsoft unless its on the WINE lists. I know nothing >>> about Apple and can't afford it. >>> >>> I built my own 32bit rig and have built three others and altered more. I dig >>> hardware and junk piles. >>> >>> I'm also disabled, so I live only on Soc. Sec. retirement. I do have a good car. >>> >>> Please advise me if I am appropriate for our WLUG. >>> >>> Thanks for the read. >>> >>> Jim Barclay >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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Re: [Wlug] Spreading GNU/Linux to the masses
by James Gray 04 Aug '14

04 Aug '14

I think you'll fit right in. I'll try not to spout out any algorithms, but no promises, OK :) Seriously, I don't think we're a very intimidating group. Just come prepared to not know everything and be willing to ask questions. On Aug 4, 2014 12:36 AM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > Hi James, > > have no fear - the WLUG meetings are intentionally inclusive of users of > all levels, all the way out to people who have only heard of linux and are > curious to know more. While the meeting topics occasionally delve into > deeper > technical topics, they're always done with the less experienced users in > mind, > plus everyone is always welcome to throw out requests for meeting topics. > > Don't worry about keeping up - all are welcome! > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > On 8/2/2014 4:13 PM, James Barclay wrote: > > I haven't been to one of the meetings at WPI as of yet even though I > only live > > near Elm Park (Looks really nice now, eh?) and here is why: > > > > I'm afraid I'll be attending an engineering and science meeting where > things > > like servers will be discussed. And algorithms will be presented and > > displayed for discussion; I'm just not that good. I'm just not at the > Knuth > > level at all and nowhere near someone like Stallman or Raymond. Who is? > > > > I'm what they call an "amateur Linux user and experimenter" and not an > > engineer of scientist. I can program in various popular languages and > use > > emacs as editor. I can tailor my distro to do what I need and want, but > I'm > > not one to gin up my own Linux. I've even messed with BeOS. I want to > spread > > the word and maybe even host a Linux class and host an installation > party- at > > the WPL(?). I wonder if someone can sponsor St. IGNUcious (Stallman) > seminar. > > > > I'd sure like Bruce Perens to do one, but I'm for FS. Running Netrunner > 14 > > (Kubuntu base) and just love it. Its a GNU/Linux. I want GNU/Linux to > be THE > > home user's OS. > > > > I have been studying security and vulnerabilities so I don't have > Facebook, > > Twitter or use too many browsers that spy and track. My new email is > from > > Google (Ok OK, I know), but at least Google's server is a Linux. I also > use > > Midori. > > > > I don't use anything Microsoft unless its on the WINE lists. I know > nothing > > about Apple and can't afford it. > > > > I built my own 32bit rig and have built three others and altered more. > I dig > > hardware and junk piles. > > > > I'm also disabled, so I live only on Soc. Sec. retirement. I do have a > good car. > > > > Please advise me if I am appropriate for our WLUG. > > > > Thanks for the read. > > > > Jim Barclay > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] Spreading GNU/Linux to the masses
by Frank Sweetser 04 Aug '14

04 Aug '14

Hi James, have no fear - the WLUG meetings are intentionally inclusive of users of all levels, all the way out to people who have only heard of linux and are curious to know more. While the meeting topics occasionally delve into deeper technical topics, they're always done with the less experienced users in mind, plus everyone is always welcome to throw out requests for meeting topics. Don't worry about keeping up - all are welcome! Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 8/2/2014 4:13 PM, James Barclay wrote: > I haven't been to one of the meetings at WPI as of yet even though I only live > near Elm Park (Looks really nice now, eh?) and here is why: > > I'm afraid I'll be attending an engineering and science meeting where things > like servers will be discussed. And algorithms will be presented and > displayed for discussion; I'm just not that good. I'm just not at the Knuth > level at all and nowhere near someone like Stallman or Raymond. Who is? > > I'm what they call an "amateur Linux user and experimenter" and not an > engineer of scientist. I can program in various popular languages and use > emacs as editor. I can tailor my distro to do what I need and want, but I'm > not one to gin up my own Linux. I've even messed with BeOS. I want to spread > the word and maybe even host a Linux class and host an installation party- at > the WPL(?). I wonder if someone can sponsor St. IGNUcious (Stallman) seminar. > > I'd sure like Bruce Perens to do one, but I'm for FS. Running Netrunner 14 > (Kubuntu base) and just love it. Its a GNU/Linux. I want GNU/Linux to be THE > home user's OS. > > I have been studying security and vulnerabilities so I don't have Facebook, > Twitter or use too many browsers that spy and track. My new email is from > Google (Ok OK, I know), but at least Google's server is a Linux. I also use > Midori. > > I don't use anything Microsoft unless its on the WINE lists. I know nothing > about Apple and can't afford it. > > I built my own 32bit rig and have built three others and altered more. I dig > hardware and junk piles. > > I'm also disabled, so I live only on Soc. Sec. retirement. I do have a good car. > > Please advise me if I am appropriate for our WLUG. > > Thanks for the read. > > Jim Barclay

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Automating RPM building
by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com 12 Jul '14

12 Jul '14

For my btbuilder project, I have a script to automatically tag a new version, put everything into an tgz, cross-compile to windows, and zip that up. Recently I've been building a .src.rpm for Fedora's copr as well. Actually the rpm is for inclusion in Fedora but I haven't gotten a sponsor yet so publishing to copr is best I can do: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1079064 I'd like to automate the building of this .src.rpm. Currently I copy the tgz to makerpm's rpmbuild/SOURCES and use rpmbuild as user makerpm. I'm trying to find a good way to automate that. Suggestions? I could use ssh with ssh-keygen but I'm wondering if there is a better way.

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ANNOUNCE: It's Official: WLUG picnic - Thursday July 10
by Chuck Anderson 07 Jul '14

07 Jul '14

Dick Goodman has volunteered to host & cook at his Worcester home for the WLUG picnic this year on Thursday July 10. Here are the parameters for Thursday's picnic: Dick will provide hot dogs, hamburgers, buns/rolls, potato salad, cole slaw and condiments. Spoiler: no cheeseburgers (kosher issue) People can bring: Soda and other beverages, watermelon, chips & dips, salad and desserts. Please don't bring anything with meat. Date/Time: Thursday, July 10, 6:00 PM Place: 51 Valley Hill Drive, Worcester, MA Thanks Dick for hosting! -Chuck

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 129, Issue 1
by Pete Wason 06 Jul '14

06 Jul '14

I can. What time? Pete On 7/3/2014 12:00 PM, wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WLUG BBQ - Thursday July 10? (The Hammer) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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WLUG BBQ - Thursday July 10?
by Chuck Anderson 03 Jul '14

03 Jul '14

Dick Goodman has volunteered to host & cook at his Worcester home for the WLUG BBQ this year on Thursday July 10. Who would be able to make it on that date?

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New router supporting fq_codel
by Frank Sweetser 26 Jun '14

26 Jun '14

Since a number of people were interested, I thought I'd throw out that Ubiquity EdgeMax now supports fq_codel: http://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX-Updates-Blog/EdgeMax-software-release-… These are good devices if you want something with a lot of enterprise-type features at consumer grade prices. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken

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Paying Job needing Linux expertise
by Robert Schwein 19 Jun '14

19 Jun '14

WVAO-LP FM radio station in Athol MA has just received its FCC construction permit. They are now organizing to build a radio station. One task is to design/build the control room. They want to use Linux. They would prefer using SUSE (https://www.suse.com/products/server/ and/or https://www.suse.com/products/desktop/) to ensure support and security for the decades to come. You would work in collaboration with the project manager, Ms Marie MacDonald and her team of volunteers. You would be specifying/building control room computer(s), specifying/installing/configuring management and monitoring software, and setting up a support infrastructure (if something goes wrong at 2 in the morning they need to quickly get back on the air) (if a software update results in a broken dependency, it needs to be fixed). Pay is by the hour and to be negotiated with the project manager. This is a non-profit organization. You will not get rich but you will have solid resume material and will definitely be helping the towns of Athol and Orange get a community radio station on the air. You're more than welcome to contact me for additional information. Bob Robert.Athol.Mass(a)Gmail.com

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Yahoo Mail DMARC
by The Hammer 18 Jun '14

18 Jun '14

Hello Everyone, This email is somewhat of a "test" as I'm just wondering if I can still send emails through as Yahoo has made some changes with their DMARC policy http://www.virusbtn.com/blog/2014/04_15.xml

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Move June 12 meeting to June 19?
by Chuck Anderson 08 Jun '14

08 Jun '14

I will not be available on Thursday June 12. Is there interest in moving the date to Thursday June 19?

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Meetup - up north?
by Tal Cohen 11 May '14

11 May '14

Hi All! My schedule has always prevented me from going to any of the meetups in Worcester. I'm up in Leominster and work in Boston. Anyone in the North Central area want to try to get together one of these evenings or weekends? Tal

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Run Linux on HP Touchpad
by Andy Stewart 10 May '14

10 May '14

HI everybody, Somebody just gave me an HP Touchpad, and I'd like to run Linux on it. It seems that I'm about 3 years too late to this game. I cannot find a set of instructions that work from a Linux computer. Many of the links to software needed to make this work are out of date. I succeeded in getting my Linux system to see the HP Touchpad as a USB device and I copied some files to it. Is there any hope? Have a lot of fun, Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 127, Issue 2
by Kevin Harrington NR 08 May '14

08 May '14

Hi folks! I will be introducing OpenSCAD, a DSL for CAD modeling. It is a finite, functional scripting language that outputs shapes ready for 3d printing. It has a C like syntax that is parsed into an OpenCSG tree, that is then compiled down to a .stl triangular mesh. It supports all source code version control unlike most 3d design software, and also has a powerful library system for modular designing. If you install it ahead of time (or when you get here) i can do a live coding walk through. http://www.openscad.org/ http://www.openscad.org/cheatsheet/ On May 3, 2014 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Announce: May meeting? Yes! See the Technocopia hackerspace. > (Chuck Anderson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 18:43:00 -0400 > From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: [Wlug] Announce: May meeting? Yes! See the Technocopia > hackerspace. > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <20140502224300.GH16992(a)angus.ind.WPI.EDU> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Kevin Harrington has volunteered to give WLUG a tour of Technocopia, a > new maker/hacker space just a few blocks from campus. He's also > volunteered to talk about a programming language I forget the name of. > I figure we could meet in the Campus Center, and then walk down to > Technocopia. > > So here's the plan: > > WLUG Meeting Thursday, May 8 2014. > > 7:00 PM meet at WPI Campus Center, Chairman's Room. > > 7:15 PM or so, head down to Technocopia, 95 Prescott Street, > Worcester, MA 01605 > > More information about the hackerspace is available here: > > http://technocopia.org/ > > We'll go out for pizza afterwards. > > On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 03:35:01PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > So is the may meeting going to be on the 8th? > > > > If so.. does anybody have a burning desire to talk about something? > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 828 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20140502/e31c07b4/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 127, Issue 2 > ************************************ >

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OT: Looking for ISP
by Richard Klein 07 May '14

07 May '14

I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good website to find an ISP? -- Thanks! Rich

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 127, Issue 4
by David Hardy 05 May '14

05 May '14

Agreed on Charter being the only choice for Woostuh, where I lived and worked through the glorious 1980s and again briefly 2006-06 and 2010. That wottuh problem under Southbridge Street is due primarily to runoff from the hills above it PLUS the Blackstone River tributary which they built the street and 290 over back when. Regards from Saint Albans Bay, VT Dave On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:49 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. OT: Looking for ISP (Richard Klein) > 2. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net) > 3. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (Richard Klein) > 4. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (Chuck Anderson) > 5. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (JeffA Maillists) > 6. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (E Johnson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:44:23 -0400 > From: Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> > Subject: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <CA+_Advnq5hzRLj=Hc9Mmn6cm+yPuK= > upsUxGNk5uJMwZCAcrWQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, > and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and > the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > website to find an ISP? > > -- > Thanks! > Rich > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20140505/b35e6d01/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:16:34 -0400 (EDT) > From: "dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net" <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > 518168341.88775.1399324600492.JavaMail.vpopmail(a)webmail1.networksolutionsemail.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I live in the same general area (Malvern Rd) and your choice is either > Verizon > DSL or Charter Cable. I used Verizon DSL and found it to be really > SLOOWWWW. > The switching office is too far away for fast speeds. I use charter and > I get > 30 mb download. It is more reliable than Verizon. The phone trunk lines > run > under southbridge street and there is a severe water problem along that > route. > One time my phone and dsl was out for three days. > -David > > On May 5, 2014 at 4:44 PM Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > > > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for > DSL > > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, > and > > the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and > the > > Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > website > > to find an ISP? > > > > -- > > Thanks! > > Rich > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20140505/7a6d922a/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:18:44 -0400 > From: Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP > To: "dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net" <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net>, > Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <CA+_AdvmAh-+k7C+9ktUhr=f2BeHtVf1_ioHyKgameafZ= > SOVOw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks David! Do you know anything about data caps for Charter? > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:16 PM, dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net < > dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> wrote: > > > I live in the same general area (Malvern Rd) and your choice is either > > Verizon DSL or Charter Cable. I used Verizon DSL and found it to be > really > > SLOOWWWW. The switching office is too far away for fast speeds. I use > > charter and I get 30 mb download. It is more reliable than Verizon. The > > phone trunk lines run under southbridge street and there is a severe > water > > problem along that route. One time my phone and dsl was out for three > > days. > > -David > > > > On May 5, 2014 at 4:44 PM Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > > > > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for > DSL > > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, > > and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, > and > > the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > > website to find an ISP? > > > > -- > > Thanks! > > Rich > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20140505/093d8c96/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:23:42 -0400 > From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <20140505212341.GR16992(a)angus.ind.WPI.EDU> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Don't forget to fix bufferbloat. A lot of complaints people have with > ISPs is probably due to high latencies under load caused by > bufferbloat. You can fix bufferbloat by running either CeroWrt or a > "Barrier Breaker" development release of OpenWrt. Check here to see > if you have bufferbloat and how to fix it: > > http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Quick_Test_for_Bufferbloat > > On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 05:16:34PM -0400, dglaser(a)glaserresearch.netwrote: > > I live in the same general area (Malvern Rd) and your choice is either > Verizon > > DSL or Charter Cable. I used Verizon DSL and found it to be really > SLOOWWWW. > > The switching office is too far away for fast speeds. I use charter > and I get > > 30 mb download. It is more reliable than Verizon. The phone trunk > lines run > > under southbridge street and there is a severe water problem along that > route. > > One time my phone and dsl was out for three days. > > -David > > > > On May 5, 2014 at 4:44 PM Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > > > > > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for > DSL > > > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company > anymore, and > > > the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, > and the > > > Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > website > > > to find an ISP? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:38:37 -0400 > From: JeffA Maillists <jeffa.maillists(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <CALHtm4g2uf0YpWXnHgR3Zj46T= > 8jVR_9Ek4jOu7TwB7XAOVMCw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > When I recently moved back to Worc, the options were: DSL or Cable > internet. > > DSL wasn't an option for me (IMHO), because the speed was predicted to be > "as high as" 3Mbps on my street, so I reluctantly went with cable > internet. The only cable provider in the city is Charter. > > It's no match for the FiOS internet I had in Marlborough, but it's better > than DSL. > > Charter's advertised speed is 30Mbps, but I occasionally see upwards of > 40Mbps. Upload is capped at 4.2Mbps. > > Jeff > On May 5, 2014 4:46 PM, "Richard Klein" <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > > > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL > > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, > > and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, > and > > the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > > website to find an ISP? > > > > -- > > Thanks! > > Rich > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20140505/3ca5fbba/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:48:51 -0400 > From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CABmZTj1T7fQyZbPvfLD0-qhwdRtuNSoaw68kjfXgEnx73Wj35A(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Charter is probably the only viable option. > > Depending on what you need (TV or not? Phone or not? Or just internet), you > can probably get a promotion with a price that will remain fixed for 1-2 > years. Whether or not you need a "package" or only internet, ask the > customer service (sales) Rep to find you a promotion. > > I'm paying 54 now for only internet, which can run 30 mb down and I think 5 > up. This is up from a one-year promo for which I was paying 44. When I > check the download speeds, it usually comes down at around 35 mb. > > Internet analysis test (the Netalyzer at USC Berkley I think) is very > comprehensive and has been giving good reports. Once Charter got some line > issues fixed in the neighborhood about 2 years ago, the Netalyzer tests > come out very good. The only complaint that Netalyzer notices is that the > buffer is somewhat too big, but usually things work okay, even in > packet-sensitive applications such as Skype. But maybe that is my router or > something. Maybe the modem (which I own). > > Welcome back to Woo. > > Liz J > > > On 5 May 2014 16:44, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > > > I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years. I used speakeasy for DSL > > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, > > and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, > and > > the Auburn line. Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good > > website to find an ISP? > > > > -- > > Thanks! > > Rich > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20140505/acd3debf/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 127, Issue 4 > ************************************ > -- Sent from whatever machine I might be on right now.

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Announce: May meeting? Yes! See the Technocopia hackerspace.
by Chuck Anderson 02 May '14

02 May '14

Kevin Harrington has volunteered to give WLUG a tour of Technocopia, a new maker/hacker space just a few blocks from campus. He's also volunteered to talk about a programming language I forget the name of. I figure we could meet in the Campus Center, and then walk down to Technocopia. So here's the plan: WLUG Meeting Thursday, May 8 2014. 7:00 PM meet at WPI Campus Center, Chairman's Room. 7:15 PM or so, head down to Technocopia, 95 Prescott Street, Worcester, MA 01605 More information about the hackerspace is available here: http://technocopia.org/ We'll go out for pizza afterwards. On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 03:35:01PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > So is the may meeting going to be on the 8th? > > If so.. does anybody have a burning desire to talk about something? > > Thanks, > Tim.

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May meeting?
by Tim Keller 01 May '14

01 May '14

So is the may meeting going to be on the 8th? If so.. does anybody have a burning desire to talk about something? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Fedora Next
by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com 29 Apr '14

29 Apr '14

Recently I decided to try to get my program Bt Builder into Fedora (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1079064) They identified some issues during review which I've fixed. Initially I didn't do the "introdution" email to the devel because I was joining to package my project and eventually maybe some others. I did eventually join the list and send the email. However I've also been reading the Fedora Present and Future articles on the Fedora Magazine site http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-present-and-future-a-fedora-next-2014-upda… It's left me wondering if I should bother going with sponsorship into Fedora. I can setup a COPR and perhaps move into the distribution via the Playground. Do you Fedora will continue with the current sponsorship model? Will new projects instead come in through the personal repositories of COPR?

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Lightning Talks @ LOPSA-East 2014!
by Evan Pettrey 25 Apr '14

25 Apr '14

LOPSA East 2014 starts in one week! All the talks have been scheduled, all the tutorials and instructors have been book, now all you need to do is show up, right? In http://scottberkun.com/essays/24-how-to-get-the-most-out-of-conferences/ Scott Berkun (author of five books, including _The Year Without Pants_) states: "There is no better way to meet others and access the most interesting and friendly people than participating." The good news is that even this late in the game, there's still a way you you to participate: Lightning Talks! Lightning Talks are a series of five-minute talks (no slides!) where enthusiasm is paramount and almost anything that might be of interest to sysadmins is on-topic. Have an idea for a talk or tutorial for a future conference you want to try out? Give a Lightning Talk. Want to share a cool new trick with your peers? Give a Lightning Talk. Have an idea for a tool and want feedback? Give a Lightning Talk. Want to convince your peers to change how they do their jobs, or quit their jobs, or not to make the same mistake you did, or step away from the keyboard and learn to cook? Give a Lightning Talk. The Lightning Talks session is Saturday, May 3rd, at 3:30 p.m. There's room for at least nine talks, more if people use fewer than their allotted time (five minutes). To sign up for a Lightning Talk, send email to <lightningtalks(a)lopsaeast.org> or contact the Lightning Talks coordinator (Adam Moskowitz) at the conference and sign up in person. Talk slots are on a first-come, first-served basis; there will be a waiting list, and if there's time at the end of the session you can just step up to the microphone without signing up in advance (but don't count on this as all the slots are usually taken). Remember: Five minutes (hard limit), no slides, pretty much any topic. Yes, even cooking -- if you can find a way to tie it to system administration. There's no easier way to actively participate in the conference than to give a Lightning Talk! Best regards, Evan & the rest of the LOPSA-East Committee

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Tripwire vs rpm -V
by Eric Martin 18 Apr '14

18 Apr '14

I have a weird problem with tripwire on at least two of my servers. A run of tripwire --check shows a few tripwire binaries have changed, which since I didn't do it is very suspicious: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rule Name: Tripwire Binaries (/usr/sbin/tripwire) Severity Level: 100 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- Modified Objects: 1 ---------------------------------------- Modified object name: /usr/sbin/tripwire Property: Expected Observed ------------- ----------- ----------- Object Type Regular File Regular File Device Number 64768 64768 * Inode Number 9698 10390 Mode -rwxr-xr-x -rwxr-xr-x Num Links 1 1 UID root (0) root (0) GID root (0) root (0) Size 1145520 1145520 Modify Time Mon 05 Jul 2010 08:55:49 PM EDT Mon 05 Jul 2010 08:55:49 PM EDT Blocks 2240 2240 * CRC32 XXXXX YYYYY * MD5 XXXXXXXXXXMJedgAef0 XXXXXXXXXXPFRiVSdGoG/q The inode number is fine, it's the CRC32 and MD5 sums that worry me. As per my usual procedure, I then issue rpm -V ${PACKAGE_NAME} to verify the package: [emartin@mx1 ~]$ sudo rpm -V tripwire S.5....T. c /etc/tripwire/twpol.txt I expect twpol.txt to be changed since you update the policy. What is / isn't missing is the glaring alert that tripwire doesn't match the RPM. Also, the MD5 sum in tripwire on one machine doesn't match it on another, and neither do the SHA1 sums as computed from the command line. While I'm pretty good with CentOS, there are a few things that I'm still learning so I'm thinking that I'm missing something here. Can anybody please shed some light on this, especially the differing sha1sums? If these are binaries, shouldn't they have the same sha1um? Also, do I need to blow away this machine and rebuild? TIA, -- Eric Martin

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"Heartbleed" OpenSSL bug in pictures
by Chuck Anderson 12 Apr '14

12 Apr '14

Today's XKCD comic explains in pictures how the "Heartbleed" OpenSSL bug works: http://xkcd.com/1354/

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Mail User Agent: mail (/bin/mail)
by Larry Camilli 11 Apr '14

11 Apr '14

This message has two parts. The first is about the basic mail program. The second (which is more important to me) is about how to avoid having to use the mail program. Part I: The Basic mail program (I'm running CentOS.) I asked last night about the basic mail program - specifically about navigating through the headers. Chuck looked up some documentation and said that the "h+" and "h-" commands should do it. And, somebody came up to me with his laptop and showed the "z" command.) Here's what the help file within mail shows about the "z" command: (Yes. -It says nothing about the z command.) Here's what I found with the h+ and h- commands: When I invoke mail, it displays the headers of 38 unread messages (numbers 1 - 38) and a prompt ("&"). (The terminal window is 132 characters wide by 42 lines long.) If I type h+, it displays the same 38 headers again. (h- gets "Referencing before 1") If I type h7865782365, I get "Invalid message number". If I type h 1-a, I get "Non-numeric second argument". If I type h 1-4, I get the first 38 headers. The program seems to be parsing what follows an "h", but royally screws up acting on what it finds. If I type "39", I get message 39. (There doesn't seem to be a "LAST" command to see the last message - and find out its number. So, typing, say, 100, gets an error because there's no such message.) Anyway, after viewing message 39, if I THEN type h, it shows headers for messages 39 - 51. (h+ shows the same headers, 39 - 51.) But, h- now shows the first 38. (That makes sense.) But, after using h- to get back to the 1 - 38 list, h+ shows the first 38 messages again. After displaying the first 38 headers, the "z" command DOES cause the next set of headers to be displayed (39 - 51). I figured that, until I figure out how to set things up to forward the logwatch mail to a gmail account, I could tolerate using a separate, basic mail program to check the logs. But, this is crap. People were asking about the guy who screwed up the OpenSSL heartbeat code. What about the guy who wrote this piece of crap? It's very basic stuff that doesn't work. Not too difficult to test... Part II: Getting EMail Forwarded from the Linux System as a Client I have two interests here. One is just academic. -Understanding how to use the mail program, despite (or because of) its suckiness. The other is so I can see the messages that the log scrapers send via /bin/mail to the root account's email. Ideally, I would set things up to have all of root's email get forwarded to, say, a gmail account. But, my setup seems to place some limits on what I can do. I set up an MTA on my VMS box long ago. I used to be able to send email directly from that system. But, it stopped working at some point, and I found that Verizon reports all of the DHCP addresses that they allocate to residential DSL customers as spam sources, so everything was getting blocked. I have written programs (in PHP) that use a PEAR class/API to send email from the Linux box, via a gmail account, to arbitrary addressees. [It requires such information as host (smtp.gmail.com) port (587), username & password for the gmail account...] So, I'm not sure if an MTA is what I really need. Can at MTA be set up to send email as a client of sorts to a real MTA (e.g., google mail)? Or do I need some other type of utility? Sure, I can write my own, but I would hope that somebody else has already done it. (Well, as long as it's not the person who wrote "mail".)

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Sr SW Engineer contract openings - C++, Linux kernel, drivers
by John Spencer 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

Our client in Chelmsford, MA has 2-3 contract openings for Sr Software Engineers with a strong background with C++ and low level Linux kernel and drivers experience. These are 6 month contracts. Must be able to interview and work on site as well as pass background check and drug test. Consultants will be responsible for Linux driver and kernel development and board bring up. Any experience with VxWorks is a plus Please feel free to forward this email to your friends and associates If interested, please send a copy of your resume to jspencer (at) connectedsp.com Your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies Office: 978-455-5550 x208 Cell: 978-621-9743 jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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Simpleton Question
by Colin Novick 09 Apr '14

09 Apr '14

WLUG folk, You guys crunch heavy issues, and I have a cream puff of an issue I just can't crack, and I am not too ashamed to admit it. There is a site with a series of m4v (Quicktime) files I want to be able to at least stream, if not download, but I have two problems. The first is that the site www.worcestercatholictv.com has set the permissions on the files so that they will only play embedded in their webpage, AND they have the files as invisible unless the embedded web page searches for them, and as a result, standalone items like VLC can't touch it, and I can't download it. The second is that the issue seems to be related to my running Ubuntu 12.0.4 LTS, and a buddy is having no issues reportedly in 13.X It makes no difference if it is Chromium of Firefox that tries to playback. Default User Agent Switcher has been installed to see if that was generating a conflict, but that doesn't seem to be it either. Totem 3.0.1 Gecko-mediaplayer 1.0.4 I have searched for similar issues and don't seem to come up with anything. I have scanned help files and that doesn't seem to address this either. At this point, if I had a guess, it is the result of funny permissions on a file that no one is worried about being Linux compatible. Thoughts are most welcome, Colin

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Meeting on Wednesday?
by Tim Keller 08 Apr '14

08 Apr '14

I presume we're having a meeting on Wednesday? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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LOPSA-East Keynotes Announced!
by Evan Pettrey 03 Apr '14

03 Apr '14

Hello once again folks, LOPSA-East is proud to announce this year's keynote speakers! Friday evening Keynote: Vish Ishaya, CTO of Nebula Inc. Title: OpenStack in the Datacenter For better or worse, cloud is arriving in the datacenter. The massive growth of OpenStack is paving the way for an onslaught of private clouds. Cloud will be the second datacenter revolution this century. Virtualization changed the way that machines are provisioned and managed, and cloud promises an even more radical set of changes. Come hear Vish discuss the history of OpenStack, cloud versus virtualization, and get guidance for dealing with the specific challenges that cloud creates for system administrators! Bio: Vish Ishaya is Chief Technology Officer of Nebula, Inc. He is a highly prolific developer who was one of the founding engineers of OpenStack. He was elected to the first OpenStack Technical Committee, where he has served consistently since. He was also elected to four consecutive terms as the OpenStack Compute Project Technical Lead and is currently on the board of OpenStack Foundation. In addition to his programming and systems skills, Vish has spent over a decade teaching, most recently classes in object oriented analysis and design. Saturday closing Keynote: Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph Title: Universal Design for Tech: Improving Gender Diversity in our Industry Universal Design is a principle in accessibility thataccessible design makes things better for everyone. A key example of which are curb cuts and door openers which help those who are disabled but also folks with luggage and parents with strollers. Elizabeth will discuss ideas on how to improve gender diversity in our industry, but many of the tips will help everyone beyond improvements that come through diversity. From offering formal education for systems administration to offering flexible schedules and work arrangements, there are many things that can be done to attract much-needed talent. Bio: Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph is an Automation and Tools Engineer at HP working on the OpenStack Infrastructure team. She has been involved with open source communities for over a decade and turned that passion into a profession when she began working as a professional systems administrator in 2006. In addition to her work on OpenStack, she is a member of the Ubuntu Community Council and is a co-author of the upcoming 8th edition of The Official Ubuntu Book. At home, she serves on Board of Directors for Partimus.org, a non-profit in the San Francisco Bay Area providing Linux-based computers to schools in need. LOPSA-East is a regional sysadmin conference in New Brunswick NJ, May 2-3, 2014. Two days of world-class training on a diverse range of topics plus community-selected talks: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/schedule Best, Evan & the rest of the LOPSA-East 2014 Committee http://lopsa-east.org/2014 Register today!

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LOPSA-East Early Bird Deadline Extended!
by William Bilancio 24 Mar '14

24 Mar '14

Great news everybody! We have recieved a number of requests to extend discounted pricing from people either waiting on approval from their boss, or who just didn't get a chance to register beefore today. We've decided to give everybody one final opportunity to register at this greatly discounted rate - Early Bird pricing will be honored through Monday, March 31st. Don't miss this great value - register today! LOPSA-East is a regional sysadmin conference in New Brunswick NJ, May 2-3, 2014. Two days of world-class training on a diverse range of topics plus community-selected talks: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/schedule Best, William, Evan, & the rest of the LOPSA-East 2014 Committee http://lopsa-east.org/2014 Register today!

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LOPSA-East Exclusive! Sneak peek at Tom Limoncelli's new book!
by Evan Pettrey 24 Mar '14

24 Mar '14

Did you hear? Tom Limoncelli has announced a new book and the only conference to get a sneak preview will be LOPSA-East! You may know Tom as the author of "Time Management for System Administrators" and co-author of "The Practice of System and Network Administration". We're very excited that he has selected our conference for this! The announcement is here: http://everythingsysadmin.com/2014/03/sneak-preview.html LOPSA-East is a regional sysadmin conference in New Brunswick NJ, May 2-3, 2014. Two days of world-class training on a diverse range of topics plus community-selected talks: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/schedule Looking forward to seeing you all there! Best, Evan & the rest of the LOPSA-East 2014 Committee http://lopsa-east.org/2014 Register today!

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Early Bird Discount Reminder! LOPSA-East SysAdmin Conference, May 2-3 2014, New Brunswick, NJ
by Evan Pettrey 18 Mar '14

18 Mar '14

Greetings! Just a reminder to everybody that the Early Bird Discount to LOPSA-East 2014 registrations ends on Sunday, March 23rd at 11:59pm - Register now before it's too late! http://lopsa-east.org/2014/register-for-lopsa-east-14 LOPSA-East is a regional sysadmin conference in New Brunswick NJ, May 2-3, 2014. Two days of world-class training on a diverse range of topics plus community-selected talks on everything from Active Directory to Code Review for Sys Admins! We have a very exciting lineup of tutorials and talks this year, you can find all of the exciting content at: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/schedule/ Looking forward to seeing you all there! Best, Evan & the rest of the LOPSA-East 2014 Committee

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OPENING - Jr SW Engineer - C, Linux kernel - direct hire in Waltham, MA
by John Spencer 14 Mar '14

14 Mar '14

Our client in Waltham, MA has a direct hire opening for a Software Engineer with 0-3 yrs of commercial design and development experience. Must be able to interview and work on-site. Our client cannot sponsor visas at this time. Jr Software Engineer Software Engineer with relevant Linux Driver experience. Responsible for design, develop and test of Linux drivers for high-speed network/communication products. Required: - BSCS/BSEE - Hands-on experience developing and interfacing with Linux drivers - Experience with Linux kernel and strong C background - Experience implementing Linux for TCP/IP Ethernet and related Please send your resume to jspencer@connectedsp (dot) com Your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies Office: 978-455-5550 x208 Cell: 978-621-9743 jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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Re: [Wlug] HOWTO debug Ubuntu boot hang
by Randall Mason 14 Mar '14

14 Mar '14

On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:16 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Andy> I've got a version of Ubuntu 13.10 in my Virtualbox OSE virtual > Andy> computer. It hangs very early in the boot. GRUB runs and the > Andy> boot starts. > > I've moved to Linux Mint myself, but it's based on Ubuntu and I've > noticed that my main desktop, which NFS mounts home dirs and other > stuff, takes *forever* to actually boot not. There's something in the > setup which hangs for five minutes or so (not sure, I just walk away > right now cause I rarely reboot the box...) before it continues. > > Have you just let the boot sit there to see if it ever finishes? I've > been meaning to turn on verbose debugging to try and figure out what's > going on too, but it's a low priority. I find that fstab is also often a problem. If it's waiting for /dev/sdb1 to show up, or a specific UUID. Maybe comment out anything not required for boot. Also, if you're at the console, comment out your whole /etc/network/interfaces and see if that helps. Ubuntu often waits on block devices and network, so it could be either of those. Randall Mason clashthebunny(a)gmail.com

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HOWTO debug Ubuntu boot hang
by Andy Stewart 14 Mar '14

14 Mar '14

HI guys, I've got a version of Ubuntu 13.10 in my Virtualbox OSE virtual computer. It hangs very early in the boot. GRUB runs and the boot starts. In /var/log/boot.log, I see the same messages as I see on the screen. I have to press ESC to see the text while the computer boots. There are perhaps 3 or 4 "Starting <service>....OK" messages, and that is all. I never get a chance to log in. The problem I have is that I don't know in which order the boot scripts are supposed to run. With the "old" initscripts, one would see Snn<script> or Knn<script> and the "nn" would be the number representing the order in which the scripts are "S"tarted or "K"illed. That isn't the case here. I've found the boot scripts in /etc/init/*.conf so I can match boot messages to scripts. However, I'm unable to determine which script got stuck since I don't know the order of execution. My version of 13.10 is customized, not stock, so I can't compare to a known good. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Registration Reminder! LOPSA-East SysAdmin Conference, May 2-3 2014, New Brunswick, NJ
by Tom Limoncelli 13 Mar '14

13 Mar '14

Greetings! I just wanted to remind everybody about the awesome tutorials and talks we have lined up for LOPSA-East this year! Don't forget to register before the Early Bird pricing expires! LOPSA-East is a regional sysadmin conference in New Brunswick NJ, May 2-3, 2014. Two days of world-class training on a diverse range of topics plus community-selected talks on everything from DevOps to Time Management. You can find all the latest details available on our website: http://lopsa-east.org Register now at: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/register-for-lopsa-east-14 We'll see you there! Best, Tom, Evan, & the rest of the LOPSA-East 2014 Committee

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Announce: WLUG Meeting Thu 3/13 7PM
by Chuck Anderson 12 Mar '14

12 Mar '14

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held tomorrow, Thursday, March 13 at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. Thursday, March 13, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

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OPENING - Software Engineer - C, Linux kernel (2+ yrs exp.) in Waltham, MA
by John Spencer 11 Mar '14

11 Mar '14

Our client in Waltham, MA has a direct hire opening for a Software Engineer with 2-6 yrs of commercial design and development experience. They will consider more Sr level engineers, up to 12 yrs of experience. Must be able to interview and work on-site. Our client cannot sponsor visas at this time. Software Engineer Software Engineer with 2+ years' relevant Linux Driver experience. Responsible for design, develop and test of Linux drivers for high-speed network/communication products. Required: - BSCS/BSEE - 2+ years' hands-on experience developing and interfacing with Linux drivers - Experience with Linux kernel and strong C background - Experience implementing Linux for TCP/IP Ethernet and related Please send your resume to jspencer@connectedsp (dot) com Your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval

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Rancid and Quagga
by Eric Martin 08 Mar '14

08 Mar '14

Hi All, I recently fired up a few FreeBSD routers using Quagga, and today I went to configure RANCID but I'm having some troubles. RANCID is working fine for my Juniper gear, my Cisco gear and even my APC stuff but I can't get it to work for quagga. I run zrancid (for zebra stuff) and it just hangs. When you add -d you can see that it's asking for show version and write term, but it still hangs. When I copy / paste the commands and run them by hand with clogin, I see it login but it just hangs after terminal length 0 When I login via ssh with the same command line that clogin passes, terminal length 0 works fine and so do the rest of the commands. I'm stumped, does anybody have any ideas? This however does work for my CentOS servers running quagga. I'm using Quagga 0.99.22.3, and Rancid 2.3.6, which is the most recent RANCID version on CentOS and the most recent Quagga on FreeBSD. ~rancid/.cloginrc: add method *.example.net ssh add autoenable *.example.net {1} add user *.example.net rancid add password *.example.net {} (I'm using ssh keys and it's called id_rsa so that works fine). router.db: ur01.example.net:zebra:up ns1.example.net:zebra:up Thanks in advance, -- Eric Martin

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Great speaker on UX design next Thursday
by Dick Goodman 04 Mar '14

04 Mar '14

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Registration Open! LOPSA-East SysAdmin Conference, May 2-3 2014, New Brunswick, NJ
by Evan Pettrey 24 Feb '14

24 Feb '14

Greetings! LOPSA-East registrations are officially open! Taking place May 2-3, 2014 at the Hyatt Regency Hotel in New Brunswick, NJ, LOPSA-East is a community-driven conference BY sys admins, FOR sys admins. Open to DevOps, network admins, Windows, Linux, and everyone! Register now at: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/register-for-lopsa-east-14 You can find all the latest details available on our website http://lopsa-east.org We'll see you there! Best, Evan & the rest of the LOPSA-East 2014 Committee

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Announce: UPDATE: WLUG Meeting Thu 2/20 7PM: Software Defined Radio
by Chuck Anderson 22 Feb '14

22 Feb '14

Hi folks, Due to the weather this week, I've rescheduled this month's WLUG meeting for the following week, Thursday, February 20 at 7:00 PM, in the WPI Campus Center, Hagglund Room 301. Our speaker this month will be Andy Stewart, who founded WLUG in 1997 and now runs the Chelmsford Linux Meetup. Andy plans to talk about software defined radio on Linux, and with luck, do a live demonstration of gqrx: http://gqrx.dk/ If there is time, Andy *might* be able to show something related to the GNU Radio Companion, where one can build a software defined radio just by drawing the blocks and connecting them with lines. Thursday, February 20, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Hagglund Room 301 This room is the one across the hall from our usual room, and is where we had the meeting with Jim Getty's on Bufferbloat. After the meeting, we will go out for pizza. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

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Schedule Announced! LOPSA-East SysAdmin Conference, May 2-3 2014, New Brunswick, NJ
by Evan Pettrey 19 Feb '14

19 Feb '14

Greetings! LOPSA-East is pleased to announce that the schedule for the LOPSA-East 2014 conference has been published! Taking place May 2-3, 2014 at the Hyatt Regency Hotel in New Brunswick, NJ, LOPSA-East is a community-driven conference BY sys admins, FOR sys admins. Open to DevOps, network admins, Windows, Linux, and everyone! You can find out more at http://lopsa-east.org/2014/ Tutorials: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/lopsa-east-14-training-schedule/ Talks: http://lopsa-east.org/2014/lopsa-east-14-talks/ This year's lineup promises to be the best yet and registrations open Monday. Be sure to register early and save! We'll see you there! Best, Evan & the rest of the LOPSA-East 2014 Committee

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Video Editing
by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

Anyone do any video editing? I've tried using pitivi to edit videos. It usually crashed. Recently I tried putting a series of images in and creating a video. I successfully created a video once. Now everytime I seem to create a file without any video content. The video isn't going to be long or good. I was showing my son how lego stop animation is done. I only did a 8 images and they aren't perfectly aligned. I used a small tripod but press the picture button must have moved the camera a bit. Probably need to use video and screen capture images so I don't touch the camera. The images also have slightly different light levels. If anyone has suggestions on fixing the images to be consistent let me know.

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Announce: NO meeting Thursday Feb 13
by Chuck Anderson 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

Hi All, Given the weather forecast, we are definately NOT meeting tomorrow, Thursday, Feb 13. I'm still waiting on a room reservation confirmation, but I hope to have the meeting rescheduled for next Thursday, Feb 20. When I get confirmation on the location, I'll send out another announcement. Chuck

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Northeast Linux Fest 2014
by Jonathan Nadeau 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Hello list, I just wanted to let you know that the Northeast Linux Fest will be held this year at Harvard University on April 5. We are excepting talks you can email contact(a)northeastlinuxfest.org and here is a link to the site. Looking forward to seeing some of you there. http://www.northeastlinuxfest.org -- Jonathan Nadeau http://www.jnadeau.org Northeast GNU/Linux fest http://www.northeastlinuxfest.org

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Thursday snow storm? Possible reschedule?
by Tim Keller 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

The weather people (who are using super computers running linux) are currently claiming that we're going to be getting heavy snow on Thursday night. I don't think WLUG has ever had this scenario... What's our game plan? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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When's the next meeting?!?
by Tim Keller 08 Feb '14

08 Feb '14

Hey Gang, Is the next meeting going to be the 12th or the 13th? Any ideas for topics? Here's a couple that come to mind... 1. An overview of home backup solutions. 2. Software defined radios in linux (gnu radio) 3. ... 4. Profit? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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RepRap
by Chris Thompson 11 Jan '14

11 Jan '14

Hey guys, OK - not really a Linux thing, but I was wondering if anyone had access to a RepRap? http://reprap.org/wiki/RepRap Thanks! Chris

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where is the meeting tonight?
by Pete Wason 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

and what's it about? -- Pete Wason * Hy Noom Publications * 5088655414 * codevark(a)aim.com * codevark "Aborigine left speechless by steady disappearance of native dialects." -- The Onion

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Reminder: No meeting tonight, next is tomorrow Thu 1/9
by Chris Thompson 08 Jan '14

08 Jan '14

Fortunately, I visited the WLUG site tonight and noticed the change of day (yeah, I missed the mailing list mention of it). Just hoping to make sure others notice too! See you all tomorrow! Did I also miss confirmation on use of the same room? Thanks, --Chris

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[Super] 8mm Film to Video
by Larry Camilli 03 Jan '14

03 Jan '14

When I looked into this several months ago (because I, too, have a pile of old home movies), I discovered: The frame rates of film and video do not divide evenly. So, to get the video to flow at the same rate as the film, extra copies of frames are inserted here and there - at regular, but odd intervals. [I wonder if, on a computer, you could set the video refresh rate and video frame rate to something that would work for the original film frame rate.] There are some relatively cheap set-ups available to project a film on a small screen and video-record it. I can't imagine that the quality would be better than horrible. With the incompatible frame rates, how bad would the flicker be? I vaguely recall that you have to provide the projector and camera. Those once ubiquitous Kodak Instamatic projectors are famous for having brittle plastic gears. I have two such projectors; both broken. [They worked when stored 30 years ago. When I fired each up, little bits of plastic gear went flying.] There is a company I found on the web that provides instructions and parts to restore these things, but... I would think that trying to run an old film through a projector - with the jerky motion necessary to get each frame stationary in the gate when the shutter opens - risks shredding the film. Non-linear scanning at low speed sounds safer. Googling, I found a web site by some guy who was working on his own transfer mechanism. He was using a scanner with fine-enough resolution that he thought it would be OK for such tiny pictures. And, he rigged up some mechanical device to automatically advance the film some number of frames at a time and scan a group of frames. -And, he was working on some software to separate the frames and adjust them so that they're aligned (based on the sprocket holes) because the mechanism couldn't possibly align the frames on the scanner well enough. I'll see if I can find the site again. I wonder if there's pent-up demand for transfer services because the prices are so high. I had hoped to find a co-op or non-profit. But, commercial transfer equipment is so expensive, even a non-profit would have to charge a lot to break even. -Maybe a charitable organization interested in preserving old film and Americana would do it on the cheap? Or, a small number of people buying a (used) $1000 telecine machine could split the cost and take turns... ...and sell it when done? I would think that it'll be worth looking over the films carefully and deciding which are really worth transferring. [I used a microfiche reader to look at a few of mine. It was extremely awkward.] Some of the the companies in/near Boston allow you to use their equipment for free to view your movies. And, there are old viewers (hand-cranked, for editing) around... http://www.thebattles.net/video/8mm_restoration.html http://photo.net/video-forum/003WXX http://vimeo.com/22015773

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creating digital files from super 8 films
by The Hammer 27 Dec '13

27 Dec '13

I have a bunch of old Super 8 movie films from family in years gone by. Can any one recommend an efficient and economical way to convert them to digital files? I see online services available, but they are very costly. Thanks, Ron PS as a last resort I may experiment with using a projector to play the reels and try to record the projected image with a cam corder. My fear is that there will be too much quality loss this way.

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WLUG meetings in 2014 on Thursdays
by Chuck Anderson 20 Dec '13

20 Dec '13

For 2014, I may have conflicts on most Wednesdays. I just scheduled the next batch of meeting space for 2nd Thursdays of each month, with our next one on Thursday, January 9, 7:00 PM. I'm still waiting for confirmation on the meeting location, but I did request the same room we've been meeting in, Campus Center Mid-Century room 331. Happy Holidays, Chuck

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Meeting tonight at 7pm in Mid Century room (rm. 331)
by Tim Keller 11 Dec '13

11 Dec '13

Hey Gang, Tonight we've got a meeting at the mid century room (rm. 331) at 7pm. No topic, no speaker so it'll just be an open forum... I figure we can talk about linux current events, any interesting linux stuff people are working on and talk about what we want to do for demos/etc. for next year. If nobody objects, I'd like to sign myself up for the talk for next month. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Announce: WLUG Meeting tonight
by Chuck Anderson 11 Dec '13

11 Dec '13

Yes, there is a WLUG meeting tonight, 7PM, WPI Campus Center Mid-Century room 331. On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 04:35:56PM -0500, Henrique wrote: > Hey Linux Enthusiasts, > > Are we having a meeting next week? > > There are plenty of interesting stuff going on lately: > > Valve, one of the major distributors of games for PC is moving towards > Linux, and just joined the Linux Foundation - > http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/12/04/valve-joins-linux-foundation-prepa… > - > This is also pushing AMD/Nvidia to push for better graphics drivers. > > > Interesting bits from Kernel 3.13 - > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUxNTk > -F2FS a filesystem made only for Flash file systems. > - I am particularly skeptical about the "There's now NFTables as the > eventual replacement to IPTables." > > Some filesystems benchmarks: > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_btrfs_311&num=3 > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_312_fs&num=3 > I just find interesting that compression can actually increase your > performance. > > Google's Go Lang 1.2 is released: http://blog.golang.org/go12 > > Cheers, > Henrique.

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Fwd: Open Position @ Brown
by Phillip Deneault 05 Dec '13

05 Dec '13

Brown University is looking for a security-centric Windows/Linux admin for a special environment they are building to process health care records. If you have experience with security regulations and technologies and like the straight-shot commute to Brown via 146 rather than commute to Boston on the Pike, this might be for you. Please respond to the position description and not to me. I do not represent Brown or know anything about the job beyond what is here, I'm just posting for a friend. Thanks, Phil

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Meeting next week ?
by Henrique 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

Hey Linux Enthusiasts, Are we having a meeting next week? There are plenty of interesting stuff going on lately: Valve, one of the major distributors of games for PC is moving towards Linux, and just joined the Linux Foundation - http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/12/04/valve-joins-linux-foundation-prepa… - This is also pushing AMD/Nvidia to push for better graphics drivers. Interesting bits from Kernel 3.13 - http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUxNTk -F2FS a filesystem made only for Flash file systems. - I am particularly skeptical about the "There's now NFTables as the eventual replacement to IPTables." Some filesystems benchmarks: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_btrfs_311&num=3 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_312_fs&num=3 I just find interesting that compression can actually increase your performance. Google's Go Lang 1.2 is released: http://blog.golang.org/go12 Cheers, Henrique.

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Free Non-working Older Dell Server - For parts
by joel d 22 Nov '13

22 Nov '13

Please contact me direct (off list) if you would like this for parts. Non working server is a Dell 1600SC Problem with server's motherboard giving boot eror "No timer tick interrupt" also beeps 4-2-1 pattern. Server has no hard disks, and motherboard not working/booting. Offered for it's likely good parts (case, power supply, some ECC RAM, etc.). Contact me joelgroup(a)gmail.com if you have any interest. (If not it goes to elect recycling in a few days.) Thank you, Joel

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Upgrade
by Clint Moyer 11 Nov '13

11 Nov '13

My main PC is long overdue for an update. I dual boot Win7 and Linux Mint. Light use, no gaming or heavy graphics. A few questions: Are there any gotchas using a CPU with integrated GPU? Not talking about mobo chipset graphic, but something like an AMD CPU with embedded ATI graphic. I haven't yet dealt with any motherboard with UEFI bios. I know there was a big uproar over Secure Boot. Is this going to give me any headache installing Linux? Is there any specific manufacturer that implements it more properly than others? Asus has been my goto brand. I'll retain my current HDDs for storage but would like to use an SSD for the OSes. I'd assume that's pretty transparent as far as installing Linux goes? Anything I need to worry about here? Any specific advice or recommendations will be appreciated. Thanks. Clint

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 121, Issue 5
by David Hardy 10 Nov '13

10 Nov '13

When I got three new machines over this past year, they all came with Windows 8 (HP Pavilions) and Atheros ethernet controllers. I had to disable Secure Boot on the machines where I installed Linux and it was also a royal PITA dealing with the Atheros drivers. Ubuntu and Mint did not want to work with Atheros, and the one machine I finally put Linux on ended up working nicely with Fedora 19. One machine remains Windows 8 (and I had gotten stung pretty badly doing the Beta 8.1 "upgrade" so am keeping it at the 8 level.) Because of pending job stuff I have to, for now, keep a second machine running Windows Server 2012R2, which works fine with the Atheros (Windows 2008R2 did not). And my remaining machine runs Fedora 19 with a hardened Virtual Box running a Whonix vm running Tor and an offshore mail client. Good luck; YMMV, obviously, but I think the disabling of Secure Boot may be your first order of business. Regards from northern Vermont (and 1980s denizen of Woostah) Dave On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Upgrade (Clint Moyer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 10:57:22 -0500 > From: Clint Moyer <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Upgrade > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <C42E30DF-37B2-4081-B5F9-946E50BC2D71(a)charter.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > My main PC is long overdue for an update. I dual boot Win7 and Linux Mint. > Light use, no gaming or heavy graphics. A few questions: > > Are there any gotchas using a CPU with integrated GPU? Not talking about > mobo chipset graphic, but something like an AMD CPU with embedded ATI > graphic. > > I haven't yet dealt with any motherboard with UEFI bios. I know there was > a big uproar over Secure Boot. Is this going to give me any headache > installing Linux? Is there any specific manufacturer that implements it > more properly than others? Asus has been my goto brand. > > I'll retain my current HDDs for storage but would like to use an SSD for > the OSes. I'd assume that's pretty transparent as far as installing Linux > goes? Anything I need to worry about here? > > Any specific advice or recommendations will be appreciated. Thanks. > > Clint > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20131110/7acc8a8c/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 121, Issue 5 > ************************************ >

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OPENING - Embedded Linux, Open WRT contract in northern MA
by John Spencer 06 Nov '13

06 Nov '13

We have a client in northern MA looking for a Sr or Prin level consultant for a new project They are looking for experience with embedded Linux and OpenWRT. If you or anyone you know may be qualified and interested, please let me know. I would be happy to share additional details. Please send a Word version of your resume with any questions. Please Note, your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com<www.connectedsp.com%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 11/13 7PM: OpenWRT
by Chuck Anderson 06 Nov '13

06 Nov '13

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held NEXT Wednesday, November 13 at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. We will have a discussion of people's experiences with OpenWRT, and perhaps a demo of how to load OpenWRT on a Netgear home wireless router and configure it for Bufferbloat avoidance/improvement. Wednesday, November 13, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

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OpenWRT on WNDR3800 home router - my install thoughts
by joel d 04 Nov '13

04 Nov '13

Decided to try OpenWRT after Jim Getty's talk and strong recommendation last month for improved security and reduced local buffer bloat. What follows is my experience / thoughts from this process. I would happily bring the hardware to demo at a future meeting if there is interest. Likely wouldn't be a full meeting but a 10-15 minute filler. More likely Q&A than anything else. I decided to go with different router/firewall hardware so I bought a Netgear WNDR3800 which Jim mentioned and is also a favorite of the OpenWRT crowd. Mine was used and $50 shipped from e-bay. This model is one model old and no longer available new. FYI: Netgear website lists it as "out of support". My WNDR3800 was used prior, so I needed to do a hard firmware reset on the bottom of router with a paperclip (didn't know the prior IP used or the admin password). Once reset and rebooted, router worked fine and could login to the "default" Netgear firmware and configuration. Default username & password is printed under the router. Downloaded the recommended OpenWRT firmware for this model. Needs to be full "factory" (instead of partial upgrade) and squashfs is recommended. Netgear WNDR3800 Firmware download link gets you OpenWRT version 10.X version which is not latest OpenWRT. Web browser login to Netgear webpage/firmware and followed "upgrade firmware" link while pointing to OpenWRT download file on local disk. The upgrade/re-flash took around 4 minutes and after a reboot worked fine. Set password and reconfigured router and WIFI with my specifics. Was up and working on OpenWRT v 10.x. Next day realized I had OpenWRT, but not latest stable version. Upgrade firmware link does not go to Internet directly, so first download OpenWRT v 12.4 with "upgrade" and "squashfs" and save to local disk. Second apply this via upgrade button in OpenWRT web link. I could likely have saved a step by grabbing the OpenWRT v12.4 for WNDR3800 with factory and squashfs. I bet this would have worked had I tried it (and saved a step). General thoughts after use for a week: OpenWRT does not have an "update direct to mother ship" feature best I can tell that downloads file and updates it from web interface. Not a show stopper for me. Instead need to know your version of OpenWRT and download an "upgrade" file and apply as two steps. This would only matter if router was used/maintained by a non-geek. Prior problem occurred with similar hardware WNDR3700 with latest Netgear firmware (happened with prior Linksys also). A few embedded WIFI devices in home would disconnect and fail randomly and at least weekly. Thus far these device annoyances have not occured since swap to WNDR3800 and OpenWRT. No idea why, but definitely A win! OpenWRT has transmit power level settings for the WIFI radio transmit. Can decide to bump up the WIFI radio settings if user chooses. Even if you melt/destroy them, a cool option if needed & tested. Firmware update for OpenWRT works from a laptop on WIFI, which in my experience Netgear & Linksys and other vendors do not support flash without a cabled ethernet port. So the OpenWRT update scripts the 1) copy file 2) apply file 3) reboot device. My Next Steps: In another week will likely repurpose the WNDR3700 likely as a WIFI gateway for the "cheap WIFI radio" devices, (mainly TV, roku, DVD, etc.). Not yet sure if I will use OpenWRT for this. Look into the option of external antennas for the WNDR3800. I live out in the country and have few neighbors to notice/know/care. If I can get there... improved & reliable WIFI signal at my mailbox would rock.

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Idiot Service Providers
by Keith Wright 23 Oct '13

23 Oct '13

On recomendation from someone on this list, I signed up for Speakeasy DSL. The helped me set up a primary name server (DNS) and they ran a secondary name server for a few extra dollars per month. This has been working well for about a decade. Speakeasy was sold to MegaPath, who yesterday sent me a message that included this: > Dear MegaPath Customer, > > This email is to advise you that MegaPath is > migrating its legacy Speakeasy ISP, web hosting, > webmail and DNS services to a more advanced platform. > > <Braindead "customer-experience" > happy market-talk deleted> > > Going forward, we will no longer support secondary > DNS services. If your domain is set up in this > manner, please be sure to make the proper changes to > avoid a post-migration service disruption. This all happens next Tuesday. I read this is "We are breaking what has worked for a decade, there is nothing you can do, have fun finding a new ISP in two days." I was wall-punching cursing mad. When I calmed down a bit I began to think, if they don't break anything else, maybe it's not so bad. The system was designed to tolerate failure. _I_ was not designed to tolerate _intentional_ failure, but everything should still work if the secondary name server is broken. Since I have only one IP address on one DSL line, I never really saw the need for a secondary server in the first place. I run a primary server because (A) I like to think of myself as a programmer, and it is self education to figure out how to do it. (B) Sometimes I create subdomains and run test program servers in them. The RFC's require a second name server, and the registrar asks for it, but who's going to care really? If the primary name server goes out, so do all other servers in the domain, since it's all really just one computer. What would you recommend? If anyone else has the same problem, I could be your secondary, and you could be mine. -- Keith

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Barbarians at the gates...
by Tim Keller 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

This is a paper about High Frequency Trading, it's an interesting if not entirely terrifying read about what a crazy place the markets have become. http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2536492 Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Bufferbloat demonstrations w/water and funnels
by Chuck Anderson 14 Oct '13

14 Oct '13

Here is a series of videos of a talk by Dave Täht where he uses water and funnels to demonstrate the concepts of bufferbloat: [1] Bufferbloat #1 - TCP 101 [2] Bufferbloat #2 - Tail drop queueing [3] Bufferbloat #3 - FIFO, RED, Blue, and Fair Queueing [4] Bufferbloat #4 - Wifi, Netalyzr, SFQ, SFQRED, and CoDel [5] Bufferbloat #5 - CoDel and Drop Head Queueing [6] Bufferbloat #6 - More on FQ_Codel [7] Bufferbloat #7 - Q&A [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD5TwLQnq_8 [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgFcqRMDqlk [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9xJbwb28Zc [4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol_BcKA9Ohg [5] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Esi0zjNdE [6] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi-jumVNVGk [7] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFH5fGNzBJU

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Changing your network scheduler in ubuntu 13.04...
by Tim Keller 14 Oct '13

14 Oct '13

Just so people know... this is how to change the scheduler on Ubuntu 13.04. tc qdisc replace dev eth0 root fq_codel limit 100 target 5ms interval 30ms ecn Obviously replace "eth0" with your appropriate network device... Enjoy, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat
by Chuck Anderson 07 Oct '13

07 Oct '13

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held this Wednesday. This month we will have Jim Gettys from Bell Labs talk about Internet buffer bloat. This is the talk that has been rescheduled from April. Note that there has been a room change to a larger room right down the hall from our regular location. Wednesday, October 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Hagglund Room 301 The Campus Center is building #7 on the campus map [1], and the Hagglund Room is room 301 on the Campus Center building floorplan [2]. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/about/visitors/campusmap.html [2] http://www.wpi.edu/Admin/CC/Floorplans/37678.htm "Internet buffer bloat, by Jim Gettys (Bell Labs) VOIP and teleconferencing often perform much more poorly on today's Internet than the Internet of a decade ago, despite great gains in bandwidth. Lots of fiber, cheap memory, smart hardware, variability of wireless goodput, changes in web browser behaviour, changes in TCP implementations, and a focus on benchmarking Internet performance solely by bandwidth, and engineer's natural reluctance to drop packets have conspired to encourage papering over problems by adding buffers; each of which may introduce latency when filled. The mistaken quest to never drop packets has destroyed interactivity under load, and often results in actual higher packet loss, as TCP's congestion avoidance algorithms have been defeated by these buffers. The lessons of the "RED manifesto" of 1997 have been forgotten or never learned by a new generation of engineers." Wednesday, October 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Hagglund Room 301 Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

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Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat
by joel d 03 Oct '13

03 Oct '13

I plan to attend Wednesday's meeting also (90% likely at this point). Joel

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Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/9 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat
by Chuck Anderson 03 Oct '13

03 Oct '13

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held at its regularly scheduled time: the 2nd Wednesday of the month, which is Wednesday, October 9, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. This month we will have Jim Gettys from Bell Labs talk about Internet buffer bloat. This is the talk that has been rescheduled from April. "Internet buffer bloat, by Jim Gettys (Bell Labs) VOIP and teleconferencing often perform much more poorly on today's Internet than the Internet of a decade ago, despite great gains in bandwidth. Lots of fiber, cheap memory, smart hardware, variability of wireless goodput, changes in web browser behaviour, changes in TCP implementations, and a focus on benchmarking Internet performance solely by bandwidth, and engineer's natural reluctance to drop packets have conspired to encourage papering over problems by adding buffers; each of which may introduce latency when filled. The mistaken quest to never drop packets has destroyed interactivity under load, and often results in actual higher packet loss, as TCP's congestion avoidance algorithms have been defeated by these buffers. The lessons of the "RED manifesto" of 1997 have been forgotten or never learned by a new generation of engineers." Wednesday, October 9, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

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Keysigning Party -- what to do AFTER
by Chuck Anderson 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

So you've attended a keysigning party and diligently checked people's key fingerprints & IDs. Now what should you do? Here is an overview of the process you should follow: 1. Sign: Look at the checklist you made at the Keysigning Party. For each user where you checked off that you verified their key information & ID, you need to import their key, verify the imported key's fingerprint matches the printout/notes that you verified at the party, sign their key(s), and send them back to them, preferrably signed+encrypted to their key. 2. Import: As you receive your signed key(s) from other people, import them to your keyring and then upload them to a keyserver. 3. Refresh: Periodically refresh your keyring from a keyserver so you get local copies of other people's keys with any additional signatures that were added since you last refreshed. Detailed instructions for each step: 1. Sign: Configure GPG to always ask for the certification level. Before signing keys, it is a good idea to set your GnuPG configuration to always ask you what certification level to assign to each key you sign. This indicates to others how carefully you verified the person's identity before you signed their key. If you don't do this, GnuPG will default to 0 which means you make no particular claim as to how careful you were. Edit $HOME/.gnupg/gpg.conf and add the following to the end: ask-cert-level You can also optionally change the default (in case you don't want to be asked every time): default-cert-level 2 1a. Sign: The CAFF Method. The easiest way to do this is to use CAFF (CA Fire & Forget) from the pgp-tools package on Fedora, or the signing-party package on Debian/Ubuntu. After installing the pgp-tools or signing-party package, you need to configure CAFF. In order to create your initial .caffrc, just run "caff" once. caff Then edit the .caffrc file in your home directory. The minimum settings you should set are: $CONFIG{'owner'} = 'YOUR FULL NAME'; $CONFIG{'email'} = 'YOUREMAIL@FOO'; $CONFIG{'bcc'} = 'YOUREMAIL@FOO'; $CONFIG{'keyid'} = [ qw{YOUR-KEY-ID YOUR-OTHER-KEY-ID-IF-YOU-HAVE-ANY} ]; $CONFIG{'local-user'} = [ qw{YOUR-KEY-ID YOUR-OTHER-KEY-ID-IF-YOU-HAVE-ANY} ]; $CONFIG{'also-encrypt-to'} = [ qw{YOUR-KEY-ID YOUR-OTHER-KEY-ID-IF-YOU-HAVE-ANY} ]; $CONFIG{'default-cert-level'} = '2'; # as above, but for CAFF specifically Note that the KEY-IDs CAFF wants are 8-byte ones rather than the usual 4-byte. Just use the last 16 digits of the fingerprint. You can also customize the email message body that CAFF will send out with each signed key. Then you just run CAFF like this: caff 0xKEY-ID1 0xKEY-ID2 0xKEY-ID3 ... ... etc to sign all those KEY-IDs. You can run it once for each person/key, or list every person's KEY-ID on a single run. CAFF will prompt you to sign people's keys one by one (which you should only do after you verify the fingerprint against your paper copy from the Keysigning Party), then it will email the signatures for each uid (email address) separately to that email address, signed+encrypted to that user. That proves that the user who can receive email at that email address, and who can decrypt the message, is the only user who can get the signature for that user/uid/email, and that is the only way they can get the signature for that uid/email (as long as you don't send your signed copy of their key to a keyserver or anywhere else--leave that to the recipient). 1b. Sign: The Manual Method. It is tricky to do the above manually without CAFF, but if you don't want to run CAFF or can't for some reason, you can sign the key and then export the signed key with gpg --export. Ideally, you should then encrypt that and send it to at least one of the email addresses listed in the uid(s) if not all of them. This is not as good as the CAFF method, because it only proves that at least ONE of the uids/email addresses is controlled by the user who has that key, and the person who controls that ONE email address can get your signature on ALL of the uids/email addresses. These commands should work for the manual method. First verify that the fingerprint matches your printout or notes from the Keysigning Party: gpg --fingerprint 0xRECIPIENT-KEY-ID Now sign the key: gpg --sign-key 0xRECIPIENT-KEY-ID Now export their key, signed+encrypted to both them and you. Store the result, ascii armoured, into a file: gpg --export 0xRECIPIENT-KEY-ID | gpg --encrypt --sign --armour --recipient 0xRECIPIENT-KEY-ID --recipient 0xYOUR-KEY-ID - > 0xRECIPIENT-KEY-ID-signed-key.asc You can verify that this came out right before emailing (since you signed/encrypted it ALSO to your own KEY-ID above) with the following: cat 0xRECIPIENT-KEY-ID-signed-key.asc | gpg -d | gpg --list-packets And you can import it to a test keyring to see the signatures like this: cat 0xRECIPIENT-KEY-ID-signed-key.asc | gpg --decrypt | gpg --import --keyring=testring.gpg --no-default-keyring gpg --list-sigs --fingerprint --keyring=testring.gpg --no-default-keyring Now that you've verified it is all correct, just attach the .asc file to an email and send it to the user's email address(es). 2. Import signed keys other people send you and then upload them. When you receive emails from other people with your signed key(s) (hopefully signed+encrypted in the email) you should import them as follows. If the sender used the CAFF Method, the entire email will be signed+encrypted and you can import the key like this: cat encrypted-email.asc | gpg --decrypt | gpg --import If the sender used the Manual Method, you will have a signed+encrypted attachment that you can import like so: cat 0xYOUR-KEY-ID-signed-key.asc | gpg --decrypt | gpg --import Now you should send your key back to a keyserver with the new signature(s) you just added: gpg --keyserver=subkeys.pgp.net --send-key 0xYOUR-KEY-ID 3. Refresh: Periodically refresh your keyring from a keyserver. In order to reap the benefits of the Web of Trust, you need to download other people's public keys so you can take advantage of the signatures on those keys to verify other people further out in the Web. As people upload their keys with additional signatures on them, your local copies become out of date so you need to refresh them to gain the additional signatures, any revocations, etc. To refresh a single key, just download that key from a keyserver: gpg --keyserver=subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 0xKEY-ID To refresh your entire keyring (do this sparingly as it does place quite a load on the keyserver): gpg --keyserver=subkeys.pgp.net --refresh-keys That's it!

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Follow up from key signing
by Eric Martin 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

Hi WLUG and BLU, I have signed all of the keys I have access to. If you haven't received an email from me, it's because either a) I can't get your key, or b) the email with your signed key was lost. Please email me directly if you're expecting a signed key from me. A few people expressed interest in the suite of tools I'm using to make signing easier, and also some visualization tools I'm playing with. They're all based on Debian's pgp-tools which can be called keysigning-party on your distribution. Hands down, the most useful tool is CA Fire and Forget or caff. It's in most distributions, and if it's not in your distro (or you're on a Mac) it's pretty easy to build. Just checkout it out from svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pgp-tools/trunk, and do a make all && make install clean Now that you have caff installed on your machine, it's time for some tweaks. Go ahead and run caff by typing caff at the command prompt. This will setup the folders and files you need that we'll be tweaking. 1) I *highly* suggest making a symlink from ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf -> ~/.caff/gnupghome/ via ln -s ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf ~/.caff/gnupghome This will have caff use your preferences in gpg.conf and it makes it easier to configure / use the way you want to. 2) edit ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf and set your default key, default keyserver (most of them sync with each other so it's not a big deal, but I prefer pool.sks-keyservers.net since it handles subkeys very well.) Also to note, keys can prefer certain servers so don't worry if gpg is asking a few different servers where things are. Also, if you haven't already, set your preferences for algorithms, hashes, and compression. *NOTE* this only applies to making new keys. You should still set the proper preferences on your key via gpg --edit-key <KEYID>. Lastly, I like to add ask-cert-level so gpg (and therefore caff) ask me what certification level to give to each signature 3) edit your ~/.caffrc file to customize your name, email address, and email template / procedure for signing keys. Caff looks for 16 digit keyids, not 8 so punch in the last 16 of your fingerprint for you key. Also, I like to bcc myself on the emails in case a message gets bounced so I can resend it easily via Thunderbird 4) Once those are edited and saved, you're all set! Grab your trusted list, and feed caff one or more keyids to handle via caff <KEYID> <KEYID> <KEYID...> Don't forget to verify the fingerprint caff / gpg show you with your trusted list. I'm attaching my gpg.conf and .caffrc files for those of you who are interested. I should probably put this up as a wiki / blog post at some point in time to I can go back and update / clarify it. Also, check out: sig2dot (included in pgp-tools / keysigning-party) which is a visualizer for the Web of Trust http://pgp.cs.uu.nl/ for PGP trust paths Cheers!

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Ubuntu usb/bluetooth/android
by Bill Mills-Curran 15 Sep '13

15 Sep '13

I've had my shiny new HTC One for a while, and I've found that the USB-connected file mount/transfer/etc speed with my Ubuntu (Precious) is atrocious. I've tried both the nautilus (automount) interface and the mtp-mount: both are bad. I'm wondering whether a usb-bluetooth adapter (my laptop does not have bluetooth) would allow me to mount the smartphone filesystem and get decent performance. TIA, Bill

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Next WLUG Meeting: Keysigning Party 9/11/2013
by Eric Martin 12 Sep '13

12 Sep '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Wednesday, September 11th 2013 I'll be running a PGP Key Signing party. PGP stands for Pretty Good Privacy and was developed by Phil Zimmerman in 1991 for secure communications. Signing keys allows you to say that you trust somebody's key, and extends the Web of Trust which helps everybody. To participate, please bring your public key's fingerprint, and at least (2) forms of ID (Government issued photo ID is the best way to go). If you don't yet have a public key, follow the directions for 'Preparing for the Party' from this [1] Key Signing Party HOWTO. Additionally, please upload your public key to our keyring for this event here [2]. I'll give a brief talk on PGP, and then we'll go through everybody's keys. What not to bring: A computer. Keys are signed at home, we just verify them at the Key Signing. [1] http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.htm… [2] http://biglumber.com/x/web?keyring=4480 - -- Eric Martin Key Fingerprint = C74F 1EBF 2E80 7984 8CB5 064E BF17 D34C C704 B30F -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSIBdBAAoJEL8X00zHBLMPIP8P/AmMZiaHpVo3Mq72yOXONUbX bUUFKtK2qCFw0g8uAJ63D5hL7kDTbWXlTWsm+73jvkaofsKyTP8hNR0ulr5ni7dw X7EEQYSpK0MufQzEqUpfEoIa6I8Pjfa5qIWNOAuJDJpAwR8+0S2urGcQML0YarFG fys0HHWW69kYG8CTGZw/0ATmBdVZFiZEjXFk6R5wIB33SvXtzuPTLltoded5bpwK svtZf4Fa3QlaEBlg25AKWFpa6OOTt3eUBQU/KNGjhfIrLkhpsbuhcbAD6C6DPtzk 25P/9TWCSaRAcyT29amGG5qLrFEHklAic6UcOjIJtlN6ywcHSbVtHOcxIA4OmBLy e0HeskGlqu/qhqgZxDQMWbvMUdzIRqCa+pMzxGI40+w6tHnlTGPW1MZbZJxhfStW AC720w6U+q/b9iCiZHF634gbvIL6Da3G2G20Vhr4h6s1rOX53sfgIqmoB66A6SPC P6MUkO42oPdEQ7WE+69f7VHGyXgkEnJUaEXGYoBdILV3qyHyNJNKF/X7o0Vtf+xn rJTokOgCEyg5xRtzQFlYpdiIoR/BMHTteKsyki6px2hn4bCsNItOJNhG8IutVo/o qofPVIyJaiA5o7G7z8QNeppy4NBq0h752T0lU/gSs9ojhBzQ9kVuhR4PNL6QcZ98 +rLxS3s1fEsTmakIpo2G =lNN3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Next WLUG meeting August 14th!?!
by Tim Keller 13 Aug '13

13 Aug '13

Hey Gang! Whose up for having a WLUG meeting, talking shop and eating some pizza?!? If someone has a topic they'd like to talk about please step forward otherwise this will just be a general discussion meeting. Chuck / Doug... When is this going to be? Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Next WLUG meeting August 14th!?!
by joel d 13 Aug '13

13 Aug '13

I will not be there this month as I am out of town. Looking forward to September and following month meetings.

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Greetings from Matt C
by Matt Curcio 13 Aug '13

13 Aug '13

Hi all, I recently joined the listserve. Where do you have the meetings? and at what time? I would like to stop by. -- Thank You, Matt Curcio M: 401-316-5358 E: matt.curcio.ri(a)gmail.com

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Next WLUG meeting August 14th!?!
by Robert Schwein 09 Aug '13

09 Aug '13

I'll definitely be there. Bob

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MIT Fleamarket
by The Hammer 13 Jul '13

13 Jul '13

I am thinking of checking out the MIT Flea Market to be held on July 21 http://www.mitflea.com/ I've never been. Could any one tell me more about it? Do you recommend? Ron

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Did anybody make it to the meeting last night?
by Tim Keller 12 Jul '13

12 Jul '13

I hope somebody showed up! -- Sent from my mobile device I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Unable to make it tonight...
by Tim Keller 12 Jul '13

12 Jul '13

Hey Gang, Unfortunately I have had something come up and I'll be unable to make it... Sorry for the short notice. Thanks, Tim.

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Seeking volunteer to help with local non-profit's website
by Mike Peckar 08 Jul '13

08 Jul '13

Literacy Volunteers of Greater Worcester, lvgw.org, is seeking a volunteer for a one-off project to refresh their website. This is not an ongoing commitment. Not sure if the backend tools the use for site management are linux-based, but I suspect they are not. Their goals are: 1. Updating LVGW's website to make it more user friendly, interactive and functional 2. The current website needs some work to make it easier to use and update. This person would also mentor a staff member about these issues Please contact me offline if you are interested. They are also separately looking for a volunteer archivist to create an online database of their historical and research data. Hope you don't think this crosses the line of fair use of this list, but it is for a good cause. Mike

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Are we having a meeting on the 10th?
by Tim Keller 08 Jul '13

08 Jul '13

Hey Gang, I presume we're actually going to have a WLUG meeting this month? Would anybody like to step forward and give a talk? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Release cycle for RHEL / CentOS 6
by Eric Martin 02 Jul '13

02 Jul '13

Hi All, The subversion server at my office is on a CentOS 6 server, and a software developer wrote a hook in python for it. The hook requires python 2.7, but CentOS 6 only has 2.6.6 (python-2.6.6-36.el6 to be exact). I grabbed python-2.7.2-5.2.fc16.src.rpm from Fedora 16 and am trying to roll my own via instructions I found on the CentOS wiki. All is good except that it requires db4.8, and that's not out for RHEL6 either. >From where I stand, it looks like my options are: 1) wait this out until either Python or a dependency are pushed up, but when is that? 2) rebuild this package with the deps, but I'm not quite sure how to roll a -devel package 3) roll my own package from scratch 4) install python 2.7 in an alternate location and point to it for this script Since this is a production server, I'd rather no do any hacks on this. Does anybody know how the release schedule works, or have any other advice? Thanks in advance, -- Eric Martin

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new to Worcester UNIX community
by Arjan van der Velde 02 Jul '13

02 Jul '13

Hi all, I'm new to the Worcester area and I would like to know how active the UNIX community is around here and possibly contribute. I am particularly interested in the BSDs but also Linux. -- Arjan

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InfoSec position opening at WPI
by Frank Sweetser 19 Jun '13

19 Jun '13

Hey all, just wanted to share a position that opened up here at WPI. The short version is the position will oriented around security analysis, with a mix of small to medium programming projects and system administration (all heavily linux based, of course!). Anyone interested can view the full details, as well as submit an application, on our HR jobs site: https://careers.wpi.edu/postings/739 -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken

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Did anybody show up last night?
by Tim Keller 14 Jun '13

14 Jun '13

Did anybody show up to last night meeting? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Announce: Today's WLUG Meeting is canceled
by Chuck Anderson 13 Jun '13

13 Jun '13

Hi folks, Sorry for the late notice. I will not be available this evening, so I'm canceling the WLUG meeting tonight. Are people interested in having a WLUG BBQ this year? If so, we should start planning for June or July or August. Chuck

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spamd
by brad 20 May '13

20 May '13

Hi All, i've been getting more spam over the last couple of days. It appears spamd is not running on my ubuntu 10.04 server; however the headers of the spam messages have X-Spam-* flags. I'm not sure what might be adding the spam headers, perhaps its upstream (or clamav). I wanted to start using spam assassin, but that appears to crash when i run the following, which i dug out from the init scripts, sudo /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/sbin/spamd --create-prefs \ --max-children 5 --helper-home-dir --pidfile=/var/run/spamd.pid This line results in the following output: May 19 17:50:03.557 [8665] info: rules: meta test T_SUBJ_BRKN_WORDNUMS has dependency 'DKIM_SIGNED' with a zero score May 19 17:50:03.626 [8665] info: collectd: Insecure dependency in connect while running with -T switch at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/IO/Socket.pm line 114. May 19 17:50:03.726 [8665] info: spamd: server started on port 783/tcp (running version 3.3.1) May 19 17:50:03.726 [8665] info: spamd: server pid: 8665 May 19 17:50:03.729 [8665] info: spamd: server successfully spawned child process, pid 8743 May 19 17:50:03.733 [8665] info: spamd: server successfully spawned child process, pid 8744 May 19 17:50:03.736 [8665] info: prefork: child states: IS May 19 17:50:03.736 [8665] info: prefork: child states: II [1] 8665 alarm sudo /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/sbin/spamd --create-prefs --max-children 5 I'm not sure what 'alarm' means. I tried running it with debugging messages, none of which seemed useful. Below are the relavent heads from one spam message, X-Virus-Scanned: Ubuntu Server Edition amavisd-new at ithryn.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.25 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.25 required=3.5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG=0.377, MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.723, RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT=1.449, SPF_PASS=-0.1] autolearn=no Anyone have advice to get spamd running correctly? thanks, - brad

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Announcing OpenShift Origin Community Day June 9th.
by Daniel J Walsh 14 May '13

14 May '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If you are interested, I attended and presented at the Community Day in Portland, a few weeks ago. It is a pretty good event. https://openshiftboston-estw.eventbrite.com/# Learn about PAAS (Platform as a Service) and how you can influence and contribute to this event. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGSkJoACgkQrlYvE4MpobNnigCgzJq79KYqbNOw5OSM45OV/5hG R+QAn0978PD+C+1q+10iNqQk4Ol3AvQ4 =WuUQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Scanning someone's head and printing it?
by John Stoffel 14 May '13

14 May '13

Guys, Anyone know of a hacker space or other place in the Worcester/Marlborough area where I can get someone's head scanned to be 3-d printed? I found this one place, http://www.teslaract.org, down in Webster Square, but they seem idle. Thanks, John

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Less than 1 week! (Prizes!) LOPSA-East 2013! (formerly PICC) May 3-4, 2013, New Brunswick, NJ
by LOPSA-East 2013 28 Apr '13

28 Apr '13

Less than one week left! http://lopsa-east.org Space still available! "The most talked about sysadmin community conference of the year! Don't miss it!" Next week is LOPSA-East 2013, May 3-4, at the Hyatt Regency hotel in New Brunswick, NJ. Register "at the door" or on-line. Some sessions filling fast: To be guaranteed your spot, register now! KEYNOTE: Marcus J. Ranum, Chief Security Officer, Tenable Network Security, Inc. will be presenting the opening keynote address on Friday night. His talk is titled "Wanted: Generalists (because the easy stuff is done)" Computer security has done a fairly good job of picking the "low hanging fruit" with knowledge-bases and engines to execute against them. But that's the easy stuff. Let's talk about what's next. PRIZES: Three giveaways during the event! Twelve lucky attendees will win a book from O'Reilly, three will go home with LISA tech session passes, and one will leave with a year membership to USENIX/LISA! You must be present to win, and must be registered to be eligible. So register now! http://lopsa-east.org/2013/registration/ TRAINING: Sessions on Linux, Windows, Puppet, Team Efficiency, WordPress, PowerShell, Virtualization, and much more! Follow us on Twitter! http://twitter.com/lopsaeast --------------------------------------- FRIDAY: An entire day of training offered by world class instructors. FRIDAY NIGHT: Dinner, Keynote and 'birds of a feather' sessions. SATURDAY: More training sessions plus 45 minute presentations from invited speakers, 5 minute lightning talks. Full schedule: http://lopsa-east.org/2013/schedule/ --------------------------------------- LOPSA-East (http://lopsa-east.org) is produced by The New Jersey chapter (http://lopsanj.org) of the League of Professional System Administrators (LOPSA) (http://lopsa.org) This will be the 4th annual conference, being held May 3-4, 2013 at the Hyatt Regency hotel in New Brunswick, NJ.

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MySQL Replication Expert Needed
by Michael Long 26 Apr '13

26 Apr '13

I know someone who is looking for some short term help. They are looking for someone "whom I can hot-drop into a problem we have with a production server pair, and have him fix it *within 30* *days*. This person should be VERY experienced with MySQL Replication, Linux, and Apache." Please email me directly if you think you can help them out. Thanks, Mike

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Announce: Change in tonight's WLUG meeting
by Chuck Anderson 10 Apr '13

10 Apr '13

Sadly, Jim Gettys has been ill and will be unable to speak at tonight's meeting. We'll still meet and have an informal discussion and answer any Linux/FOSS support questions people have. We'll also raffle off some books and go out for pizza afterwards. I hope to reschedule Jim for a future meeting. ----- Forwarded message from Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> ----- Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:02:27 -0400 From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 4/10 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat Precedence: list Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held at its regularly scheduled time: the 2nd Wednesday of the month, which is Wednesday, April 10, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. This month we will have Jim Gettys from Bell Labs talk about Internet buffer bloat. "Internet buffer bloat, by Jim Gettys (Bell Labs) VOIP and teleconferencing often perform much more poorly on today's Internet than the Internet of a decade ago, despite great gains in bandwidth. Lots of fiber, cheap memory, smart hardware, variability of wireless goodput, changes in web browser behaviour, changes in TCP implementations, and a focus on benchmarking Internet performance solely by bandwidth, and engineer's natural reluctance to drop packets have conspired to encourage papering over problems by adding buffers; each of which may introduce latency when filled. The mistaken quest to never drop packets has destroyed interactivity under load, and often results in actual higher packet loss, as TCP's congestion avoidance algorithms have been defeated by these buffers. The lessons of the "RED manifesto" of 1997 have been forgotten or never learned by a new generation of engineers." Wednesday, April 10, 7:00 - 10:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 I will also be raffling off some more items. Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug ----- End forwarded message -----

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Keynote speaker announced! LOPSA-East (formerly PICC) May 3-4, 2013, New Brunswick, NJ
by LOPSA-East 2013 04 Apr '13

04 Apr '13

[Note: "Early-bird" price ends in 4 days! Don't lose the discount!] The LOPSA-East committee is excited to announce our opening keynote speaker: Marcus J. Ranum, Chief Security Officer, Tenable Network Security, Inc. will be presenting the opening keynote address on Friday night. Marcus J. Ranum is a world-renowned expert on security system design and implementation. He is recognized as an early innovator in firewall technology, and the implementor of the first commercial firewall product. Since the late 1980's, he has designed a number of groundbreaking security products including the DEC SEAL, the TIS firewall toolkit, the Gauntlet firewall, and NFR's Network Flight Recorder intrusion detection system. He has been involved in every level of operations of a security product business, from developer, to founder and CEO of NFR. Marcus has served as a consultant to many FORTUNE 500 firms and national governments, as well as serving as a guest lecturer and instructor at numerous high-tech conferences. In 2001, he was awarded the TISC "Clue" award for service to the security community, and the ISSA Lifetime Achievement Award. Marcus is Chief Of Security for Tenable Security, Inc., where he is responsible for research in open source logging tools, and product training. He serves as a technology advisor to a number of start-ups, established concerns, and venture capital groups. Conference Summary ------------------------ LOPSA-East begins Friday with an entire day of training offered by world class instructors. We have half day sessions on Team Efficiency, Configuration Management, Basic and Advanced PowerShell, IPV6 migration, and much more! The conference continues on Saturday, with more half day training sessions along with 45 minute presentations from invited speakers, 5 minute lightning talks, and 'birds of a feather' discussions on participant selected topics. (The entire training schedule can be found at http://lopsa-east.org/2013/lopsa-east-training/) Register now! Save up to $197 by registering during the extended Early Bird pricing! Even larger discounts are available for students. For more information and to register visit http://lopsa-east.org --------------------------------------- LOPSA-East (http://lopsa-east.org) is produced by The New Jersey chapter (http://lopsanj.org) of the League of Professional System Administrators (LOPSA) (http://lopsa.org) This will be the 4th annual conference, being held May 3-4, 2013 at the Hyatt Regency hotel in New Brunswick, NJ.

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Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 4/10 7PM Jim Gettys on Internet buffer bloat
by Chuck Anderson 02 Apr '13

02 Apr '13

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held at its regularly scheduled time: the 2nd Wednesday of the month, which is Wednesday, April 10, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. This month we will have Jim Gettys from Bell Labs talk about Internet buffer bloat. "Internet buffer bloat, by Jim Gettys (Bell Labs) VOIP and teleconferencing often perform much more poorly on today's Internet than the Internet of a decade ago, despite great gains in bandwidth. Lots of fiber, cheap memory, smart hardware, variability of wireless goodput, changes in web browser behaviour, changes in TCP implementations, and a focus on benchmarking Internet performance solely by bandwidth, and engineer's natural reluctance to drop packets have conspired to encourage papering over problems by adding buffers; each of which may introduce latency when filled. The mistaken quest to never drop packets has destroyed interactivity under load, and often results in actual higher packet loss, as TCP's congestion avoidance algorithms have been defeated by these buffers. The lessons of the "RED manifesto" of 1997 have been forgotten or never learned by a new generation of engineers." Wednesday, April 10, 7:00 - 10:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 I will also be raffling off some more items. Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

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Early Bird Registration extended LOPSA-East 2013! (formerly PICC) May 3-4, 2013, New Brunswick, NJ
by LOPSA-East 2013 01 Apr '13

01 Apr '13

Register now and save! http://lopsa-east.org Space is limited! We have recieved a number of requests to extend discounted pricing from people either waiting on approval from their boss, or who just didn't get a chance to register before today. Considering how many people have contacted us, we've decided to extend our discounted pricing for just one more week. Early Bird pricing has been extended until April 8th for LOPSA-East (formerly PICC) May 3-4, 2013 at the Hyatt Regency in New Brunswick, NJ. If you were on the fence, or waiting for approval, this is your last chance before prices go up! You can find out more at http://lopsa-east.org LOPSA-East begins Friday with an entire day of training offered by world class instructors. We have half day sessions on Team Efficiency, Configuration Management, Basic and Advanced PowerShell, IPV6 migration, and much more! The conference continues on Saturday, with more half day training sessions along with 45 minute presentations from invited speakers, 5 minute lightning talks, and 'birds of a feather' discussions on participant selected topics. (The entire training schedule can be found at http://lopsa-east.org/2013/lopsa-east-training/) Register now! Save up to $197 by registering during the extended Early Bird pricing! Even larger discounts are available for students. For more information and to register visit http://lopsa-east.org --------------------------------------- LOPSA-East (http://lopsa-east.org) is produced by The New Jersey chapter (http://lopsanj.org) of the League of Professional System Administrators (LOPSA) (http://lopsa.org) This will be the 4th annual conference, being held May 3-4, 2013 at the Hyatt Regency hotel in New Brunswick, NJ.

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Last week of Early Bird pricing for LOPSA-East (formerly PICC) May 3-4, 2013, New Brunswick, NJ
by LOPSA-East 2013 27 Mar '13

27 Mar '13

Early Bird Registration ends April 1st! http://lopsa-east.org Space is limited! Early Bird Registration is over April 1st for LOPSA-East 2013, May 3-4, at the Hyatt Regency hotel in New Brunswick, NJ. After next week, prices will go up. IT professionals from the tri-state area and the entire east coast will be joining us for the most talked about community-driven IT conference of the year. You can find out more at http://lopsa-east.org LOPSA-East begins Friday with an entire day of training offered by world class instructors. We have half day sessions on Puppet, Wordpress, Basic and Advanced PowerShell, Virtualization, and much more! The conference continues on Saturday, with more half day training sessions along with 45 minute presentations from invited speakers, 5 minute lightning talks, and 'birds of a feather' discussions on participant selected topics. (The entire training schedule can be found at http://lopsa-east.org/2013/lopsa-east-training/) Register now! Save up to $197 by registering during the Early Bird pricing! Even larger discounts are available for students. For more information and to register visit http://lopsa-east.org --------------------------------------- LOPSA-East (http://lopsa-east.org) is produced by The New Jersey chapter (http://lopsanj.org) of the League of Professional System Administrators (LOPSA) (http://lopsa.org) This will be the 4th annual conference, being held May 3-4, 2013 at the Hyatt Regency hotel in New Brunswick, NJ.

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What does Stack Exchange do when disaster strikes? Find out at LOPSA-East (formerly PICC) May 3-4, 2013, New Brunswick, NJ
by LOPSA-East 2013 22 Mar '13

22 Mar '13

Early Bird Registration ends April 1st! http://lopsa-east.org Space is limited! In late October of 2012, Hurricane Sandy was wreaking havoc on the east coast. It was the second costliest hurricane in US history causing widespread power and service disruptions. George Beech, a System Aministrator at Stack Overflow, will be presenting a talk at LOPSA-East 2013 about their successful failover to a backup datacenter and what it took to keep their primary New York City datacenter operational while implementing the Disaster Recovery plan. This talk will focus mostly on Disaster Recovery and migration for a primarily windows based shop. Including: SQL 2012 failover DNS Migration Dealing with long term shutdown of AD DC's How their DR Plan survived it's encounter with reality He will also spend a little bit of time talking about what happened at the 75 Broad st. facility - and the efforts of all involved to keep that datacenter up and running. The 'Bucket Brigade' 24/7 Staffing rotations How three companies worked together (SquareSpace, Fog Creek, and Stack Exchange) to keep the lights on, and services running. -------------------------------------------- Early Bird Registration ends April 1st for the 2013 LOPSA-East conference, May 3-4, 2013 at the Hyatt Regency hotel in New Brunswick, NJ. IT professionals from the tri-state area and the entire east coast will be joining us for the most talked about community-driven IT conference of the year. You can find out more at http://lopsa-east.org LOPSA-East begins Friday with an entire day of training offered by world class instructors. We have half day sessions on Team Efficiency, Configuration Management, Basic and Advanced PowerShell, IPV6 migration, and much more! The conference continues on Saturday, with more half day training sessions along with 45 minute presentations from invited speakers, 5 minute lightning talks, and 'birds of a feather' discussions on participant selected topics. (The entire training schedule can be found at http://lopsa-east.org/2013/lopsa-east-training/) Register now! Save up to $197 by registering during the Early Bird pricing! Even larger discounts are available for students. For more information and to register visit http://lopsa-east.org --------------------------------------- LOPSA-East (http://lopsa-east.org) is produced by The New Jersey chapter (http://lopsanj.org) of the League of Professional System Administrators (LOPSA) (http://lopsa.org) This will be the 4th annual conference, being held May 3-4, 2013 at the Hyatt Regency hotel in New Brunswick, NJ.

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Joel's Favorite Android Apps
by joel d 18 Mar '13

18 Mar '13

Hi everyone, First thanks being o.k. with my bringing my 5 year old on, Andrew to the last meeting. He does want to become a "Junior WLUG member". For that reason I did not contribute much to the android meeting. Below is a summary of my favorite apps, some were mentioned Wednesday and some were not. All are listed with a $ sign if they had a cost. I am a cheapskate so it had to be pretty good for me to fork some over. Thanks, Joel ============================================================== Favorite Android Apps Utilities: I leave these three running.... Llama (rules based phone control) Llama lets you define an "area" by the local cell phone tower ids You can then set logic based rules based upon location and/or time and/or ... Juice Defender Free Avast Antivirus USED DAILY: Swiftkey Keyboard $ 1.99 Aqua Mail Pro (for *all* e-mail accounts) $ 4.95 SugarSync - 5Gb of Cloud Sync (works like dropbox but sugarsync's android is better ) I sync hourly when on WIFI only. Sync documents and all cell photos with my desktop and laptop. Will do digital photos and also files! I use this for favorite PDF files of magazines, and owners manuals for complex items. PowerAmp (for playing MP3 and podcasts ) $3.99 10 band Equilizer is very handy for podcasts with hiss (just drop high and low frequencies down) Elixir2 (system info) Elixir2 Widgets (allowes more and smaller home page icons in widget) Elixir2 Personal Add On (smaller widget icon to include a contact person) DW Contacts and Phone and Dialer (this one does SO much, I mainly like the visuals on contacts & dialer) Astrid - Task list which syncs to website account Pocket - store web pages for later offline reading ConvertPad Convert units & currencies Bubble Find "Level" in multiple directions Brightest Flashlight RealCalc Sci Calculator UltraChron Stopwatch or Countdown Timer AlarmDroid Simple Alarmclock Librivox Download audiobooks from public domain (usu. 50+ years old) A cool app for kids stories (Aesop's, Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland..) Networking/WIFI Stuff: Fing Wifi Analyzer (scan for WIFI) Speed Test FoxFi (create a portable hotspot) Buying Stuff: Amazon Shopping Ebay Paypal c.Mobile Craigslist Client Dolphin Browser (big & pretty browser & add ons) I sync my Firefox desktop favorites with xmarks. Handcent SMS - quick & easy text messages Allows customization of fonts and other item I like. YouTube - browser like for Youtube but better/smoother control aCalendar free - better interface, but still uses Android calendar data I sync aCalendar to my gmail calendar and use it for schedule. X-plore File Manager - handles files and photos locally X-plor also does dropbox/sugarsync/googledrive and ftp Once you get "files" to Android with SugarSync, I then need: Adobe PDF viewer Kingsoft Office very good office suite for viewing and editing Ham Radio & Radio Geek stuff: Repeater Book (listing of ham repeaters based upon your location) EchoLink (connect to radios & repeaters around the world via Internet) Scanner Radio (streams audio from scanners worldwide - incl Worcester F & P & EMS) Time Wasters / Games Kindle Flipboard - random news Plague Inc (like risk but you are trying to infect/kill world) Dead Trigger (FPS to shoot zombies) Andoku 2 (soduku app) Pandora stream generic music

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Early Bird Registration ending soon for LOPSA-East 2013! (formerly PICC) May 3-4, 2013, New Brunswick, NJ
by LOPSA-East 2013 17 Mar '13

17 Mar '13

Register early and save! http://lopsa-east.org Space is limited! Early Bird Registration ends April 1st for the 2013 LOPSA-East conference, May 3-4, 2013 at the Hyatt Regency hotel in New Brunswick, NJ. IT professionals from the tri-state area and the entire east coast will be joining us for the most talked about community-driven IT conference of the year. You can find out more at http://lopsa-east.org LOPSA-East begins Friday with an entire day of training offered by world class instructors. We have half day sessions on Team Efficiency, Configuration Management, Basic and Advanced PowerShell, IPV6 migration, and much more! The conference continues on Saturday, with more half day training sessions along with 45 minute presentations from invited speakers, 5 minute lightning talks, and 'birds of a feather' discussions on participant selected topics. (The entire training schedule can be found at http://lopsa-east.org/2013/lopsa-east-training/) Register now! Save up to $197 by registering during the Early Bird pricing! Even larger discounts are available for students. For more information and to register visit http://lopsa-east.org --------------------------------------- LOPSA-East (http://lopsa-east.org) is produced by The New Jersey chapter (http://lopsanj.org) of the League of Professional System Administrators (LOPSA) (http://lopsa.org) This will be the 4th annual conference, being held May 3-4, 2013 at the Hyatt Regency hotel in New Brunswick, NJ.

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Northeast Linux Fest
by The Hammer 16 Mar '13

16 Mar '13

Hey guys, Just curious if anyone from the WLUG is planning to attend the Northeast Linuxfest at Harvard March 16? I'm planning to go. My current plans are to make a day trip in on Saturday. Ron

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Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 3/13 7PM Android Apps
by Chuck Anderson 12 Mar '13

12 Mar '13

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) meeting will be held at its regularly scheduled time: the 2nd Wednesday of the month, which is tomorrow, Wednesday, March 13, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331. Wednesday, March 13, 7:00 - 10:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Mid-Centry Room 331 Your Favorite Android Apps Afterwards, we will go out for pizza. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 113, Issue 2
by Karl Lind 10 Mar '13

10 Mar '13

Yep, Going Saturday and Sunday. Looking forward to a little hob-knobbing :\|D . Karl On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:47 AM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Northeast Linux Fest (The Hammer) > 2. WLUG website issue? (The Hammer) > 3. Re: WLUG website issue? (Frank Sweetser) > 4. Re: Northeast Linux Fest (Daniel J Walsh) > 5. Re: WLUG website issue? (Keith Wright) > 6. Re: WLUG website issue? (The Hammer) > 7. Re: WLUG website issue? (Keith Wright) > 8. Re: WLUG website issue? (The Hammer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:38:41 -0500 > From: The Hammer <hammerron(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: [Wlug] Northeast Linux Fest > To: WLUG <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <CADL5mQzJ8rGkRaTKM2iT5nAAq_k-yo5RBg= > yg3HtWhBAqZTBLw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey guys, > > Just curious if anyone from the WLUG is planning to attend the Northeast > Linuxfest at Harvard March 16? > > I'm planning to go. My current plans are to make a day trip in on > Saturday. > > Ron > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20130307/898e14ab/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:40:43 -0500 > From: The Hammer <hammerron(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: [Wlug] WLUG website issue? > To: WLUG <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CADL5mQxaS4TwyXAzeVRHW-8ydyqymGuE4pfZ7d8v8p72B-YQ1Q(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I'm not sure who the proper contact is, but lately have not been able to > get onto the website at > > http://www.wlug.org/ > > It says: > > Bad Request > > Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand. > Reason: You're speaking plain HTTP to an SSL-enabled server port. > Instead use the HTTPS scheme to access this URL, please. > > Hint: *https://angus.ind.wpi.edu/* <https://angus.ind.wpi.edu/> > > ------------------------------ > Apache/2.2.15 (Scientific Linux) Server at angus.ind.wpi.edu Port 443 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20130307/02830815/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 14:56:24 -0500 > From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] WLUG website issue? > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <5138F0E8.6070802(a)wpi.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > Thanks for the heads up, this should be fixed now. > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > On 3/7/2013 2:40 PM, The Hammer wrote: > > I'm not sure whothe proper contact is, but lately have not been able to > get > > onto the website at > > > > http://www.wlug.org/ > > > > It says: > > > > > > Bad Request > > > > Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand. > > Reason: You're speaking plain HTTP to an SSL-enabled server port. > > Instead use the HTTPS scheme to access this URL, please. > > > > Hint: *https://angus.ind.wpi.edu/* > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Apache/2.2.15 (Scientific Linux) Server at angus.ind.wpi.edu > > <http://angus.ind.wpi.edu> Port 443 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:02:08 -0500 > From: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Northeast Linux Fest > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <5138F240.4060808(a)redhat.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/07/2013 02:38 PM, The Hammer wrote: > > Hey guys, > > > > Just curious if anyone from the WLUG is planning to attend the Northeast > > Linuxfest at Harvard March 16? > > > > I'm planning to go. My current plans are to make a day trip in on > > Saturday. > > > > Ron > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > I am presenting at it, on Saturday. > > Secure Linux Containers > > Dan > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAlE48kAACgkQrlYvE4MpobNdyQCdExxvL5zG8wu/tulA3VrETgnF > Xa0AoNM0WP/o9+0to0xspGhvzurLdPba > =tKNe > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:37:39 -0500 > From: Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] WLUG website issue? > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <201303072337.r27NbdSK004584(a)localhost.localdomain> > > > Works for me. It says: > > Topic: Your Favorite Android Apps > > Date/Time: Wednesday, March 13 > 7:00 - 10:00 PM > > Location: WPI Campus Center, Mid-Century Room 331 > > From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> > > > > Thanks for the heads up, this should be fixed now. > > > > On 3/7/2013 2:40 PM, The Hammer wrote: > > > I'm not sure whothe proper contact is, but lately have not been able > to get > > > onto the website at > > > > > > http://www.wlug.org/ > > > > > > It says: > > > > > > > > > Bad Request > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 07:20:26 -0500 > From: The Hammer <hammerron(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] WLUG website issue? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CADL5mQwTDNNwrTJwXO7FN3xHcsJegiyKAmhkwm1+qs3b-JhquQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > ..I just tried it at a different location and it's fine here...very odd > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> > wrote: > > > > > Works for me. It says: > > > > Topic: Your Favorite Android Apps > > > > Date/Time: Wednesday, March 13 > > 7:00 - 10:00 PM > > > > Location: WPI Campus Center, Mid-Century Room 331 > > > From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> > > > > > > Thanks for the heads up, this should be fixed now. > > > > > > On 3/7/2013 2:40 PM, The Hammer wrote: > > > > I'm not sure whothe proper contact is, but lately have not been able > > to get > > > > onto the website at > > > > > > > > http://www.wlug.org/ > > > > > > > > It says: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bad Request > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20130308/a7afd77c/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:37:12 -0500 > From: Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] WLUG website issue? > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <201303081337.r28DbCPx003633(a)localhost.localdomain> > > > From: The Hammer <hammerron(a)yahoo.com> > > > > ..I just tried it at a different location and it's > > fine here...very odd > > What's odd? Frank says it's fixed and it's fixed. > > > > > From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the heads up, this should be fixed now. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:47:08 -0500 > From: The Hammer <hammerron(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] WLUG website issue? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <CADL5mQxa9mS4==pk-= > v81UY7fZuU3njNPuZaEck9UOKenBSaJg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > ..my one thought is the computer with the trouble was running *cough* > Windows xp...it has AGV virus protection. I'm wondering if AVG is blocking > the site. I will try to check setting next week when I see it again > > On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> > wrote: > > > > From: The Hammer <hammerron(a)yahoo.com> > > > > > > ..I just tried it at a different location and it's > > > fine here...very odd > > > > What's odd? Frank says it's fixed and it's fixed. > > > > > > > From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the heads up, this should be fixed now. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20130308/6f5650a6/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 113, Issue 2 > ************************************ >

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WLUG website issue?
by The Hammer 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

I'm not sure who the proper contact is, but lately have not been able to get onto the website at http://www.wlug.org/ It says: Bad Request Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand. Reason: You're speaking plain HTTP to an SSL-enabled server port. Instead use the HTTPS scheme to access this URL, please. Hint: *https://angus.ind.wpi.edu/* <https://angus.ind.wpi.edu/> ------------------------------ Apache/2.2.15 (Scientific Linux) Server at angus.ind.wpi.edu Port 443

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The 3rd annual Northeast Linux Fest
by Jonathan Nadeau 06 Mar '13

06 Mar '13

Hello, I would like to annouce the 3rd annual Northeast Linux Fest. It will be on March 16 and 17 at Harvard University in the Science building. If you are new to Linux or a seasoned veteran this is the place for you. We will have speakers from Red Hat teaching you how to leverage virtualization using Openshift and KVM. The Fedora distribution will have their own track giving talks on all things Fedora. John Sullivan from the Free Software Foundation will be there also. Jon 'Maddog" Hall who has been there from the start of it all will be giving the keynote. We also will have an all day class for new Linux users. This event is free and to learn more about it here is the website. http://www.northeastlinuxfest.org -- Jonathan Nadeau http://www.jnadeau.org Northeast GNU/Linux fest http://www.northeastlinuxfest.org

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Idea for next month's WLUG meeting....
by joel d 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

Over pizza last night I had a WLUG meeting idea I thought I would share with the group. Seems many WLUG members have Android phones and tablets. How about a show & tell about each of our favorite Android applications? Android is Linux-based so it is somewhat relevent to our group. I am not sure how we can "show these" up on a big screen but a laptop could easily go to the web page (or developer's page) via browser might work. I am happy to contribute my 5 to 10 favorites in the Android App world. Sharing these in this e-mail group might make sense also if people so choose. Anyone else have thoughts on this topic? Thank you, Joel

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