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kde22 problems...
by Wesley Allen 02 Sep '01

02 Sep '01

Well, I've finally gotten kde 2.2 installed and I love the new libkdeprint. I'm a pastor by trade and have been stuck in windows because I need some pretty funky Greek and Hebrew fonts for my weekly research; fonts which I can only find in .ttf format and couldn't be printed at any rate (yes, I know there were fixes, I never got one to work for me). Now with kde 2.2 I can at last use these fonts in Linux, with one major glitche... 1) They only show up in my "usable fonts" combo box in koffice when anti-aliasing is turned on. This would not be a problem except for the fact that... a) My pitifully Celeron 366 take FOREVER to load kde programs with anti-aliasing turned on (ever waited 30 seconds for a shell to open up, it's not fun...) b) My laptop's display isn't supported by kde's anti-aliasing yet (Inspiron 3800). So my primary research tool can't be used. Any ideas/workarounds/hacks to overcome this glitch? Also, with anti-aliasing turned on, my desktop machine won't allow me to submit forms (like e-mail), in konqueror. Any ideas? (I'm going to submit a bug report). Wes

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Speakdifficult
by Sands Fish 31 Aug '01

31 Aug '01

For anyone who cares what Speakeasy has to say about the Covad Ch. 11... http://www.speakeasy.net/main.php?page=fullstory __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com

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RE: [Wlug] anyone using DSL in Worcester? is it working?
by Kingsbury, Michael 31 Aug '01

31 Aug '01

I'll echo this one, I'm pretty happy with Speakeasy, also a little uneasy about the Covad issue... Can't say I had any complaints, service is fine. -beaker -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Charles R . Anderson Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:37 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] anyone using DSL in Worcester? is it working? On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 09:24:39PM -0400, Matt Pease wrote: matt> I'm wondering now, is anyone on this list in Worcester using matt> DSL? If so, with who & is it working fully now? I use Speakeasy. They are an excellent DSL company. My DSL only went down two or three times in the 8 months since I've had it. One time was to move my connection from the NYC POP to the Boston POP (providing much better connectivity in the process), and the most recent time was due to lightning blowing out my modem. They replaced it for free. I am a little worried about Covad, though. That's why I did not go for the "save $10 by paying for a year in advance" deal. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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VPN Question
by Michael Long 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

Hi all, I have only connected to a network via a VPN using windows software in the past. How do I go about establishing a VPN connection using linux. Do I need to get any software and what other information will I need besides my login, password, and server IP address? Thanks, Mike

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Meeting topics for Sept. 12th
by Andy Stewart 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

HI gang, I'm looking for a speaker for the Sept. 12th WLUG meeting. If you have a desire to speak on a topic, please bounce your ideas off of me and we'll see if something can be worked out. If you know somebody who'd be a good speaker, please let me know that as well. Finally, I'd like to put out an APB on Rob Bellville. He is our former webmaster, and I"m trying to get in touch with him. His e-mail address doesn't exist any more. If anybody knows Rob or how I can get in touch with him, please contact me ASAP. Thanks in advance, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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apache and SetOutputFilter
by Brad Noyes 27 Aug '01

27 Aug '01

Hi Fellas, I'm trying to configure apache to handle .shtml files. I don't know much about apache configuration, so i got some info from apache.org about this. i ended up with this config chunck # put in so we can use .shtml files in /home/httpd/includes <Directory "/home/httpd/includes"> Options +Includes # (took from http://www.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_include.html) <IfModule mod_include.c> AddType text/html .shtml <FilesMatch "\.shtml(\..+)?$"> SetOutputFilter INCLUDES </FilesMatch> </IfModule> </Directory> When i parse the config file i get this # httpd -t Syntax error on line 408 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Invalid command 'SetOutputFilter', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration any suggestions here? i'm using the apache that came with red hat 7.0 Thanks, --Brad

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gettin' the Sparc Classic on the network...
by Sands Fish 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hello all, Settin' up the box I won at the last WLUG meeting. I wanna get it on the network here at work. When I watch the boot messages, I see "eth0 LANCE <mac address>" and "eth0 using auto-carrier-detection", but i don't see an entry for /dev/eth0 when i look there. I can ping the local loopback, but when I try to use DHCP in linuxconf to let it grab an address, but in ifconfig, i still only see the entry for the local loopback. Is there a different location for the eth0 device? Any hints? Anything would be appreciated. Thanx everyone. - Sands Fish - eCommerce - telecomNOW - sands(a)telecomnow.com

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Embedded Systems Conference in Boston Sept 5-7
by Skip Gaede 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

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Re: [Wlug] REPLY TO FROM (!!!)
by ccb＠acm.org 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

> - Some people expect that a reply will goto the group. > > However, this causes a number of people to respond to the group > when they mean the response to goto the sender only. Of the 40 or so mailing lists that I'm regularly a participant on, the wlug list is the only one exhibiting this behavior. It's generally consider an anachronism, dating to the days when we all had "!" in our email addresses. decvax!ccb

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stat syscall in RH7.1
by Brad Noyes 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Hi Fellas I'm trying to get a shared library to work with my red hat 7.1 system. The problem is; when the library makes a system call to stat() i get "<./myprog> error while loading shared libraries: <mylib.so>: undefined symbol: stat". I have tried this on other distro's (debian, namely), and it was able to make the syscall just fine. Any ideas? Here's some info that you may find helpful: i compile with these lines: gcc -g -fPIC -c -g <mylib>.c -o <mylib>.o ld -shared -soname <mylib>.so.0 -o <mylib>.so.0.0.0 -lc <mylib>.o gcc -g <myprog>.o -o <myprog> -L. -l<mylib> ldd <myprog> <mylib>.so.0 => ./<mylib>.so.0 (0x40018000) libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x4002d000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000) gcc --version 2.96 Thanks for any sugesstions, --Brad

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Re: [Wlug] REPLY TO FROM (!!!)
by Jeffry Smith 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Doug Chamberlin said: >At 8/20/2001 11:53 AM (Monday), ccb(a)acm.org wrote: >> > - Some people expect that a reply will goto the group. >> > >> > However, this causes a number of people to respond to the group >> > when they mean the response to goto the sender only. >> >>Of the 40 or so mailing lists that I'm regularly a participant on, the >>wlug list is the only one exhibiting this behavior. It's generally >>consider an anachronism, dating to the days when we all had "!" in our >>email addresses. > >Of the 15 or so mailing lists that I'm regularly a participant on, there >are NO lists which are setup so replies go directly to senders instead of >the list as a whole. Replying by default only to senders hinders one of the >primary benefits of participation - that of sharing info. It is generally >considered "the way to go" to have replies default to the whole list with >strong objections made every time it is suggested that it be changed. > Not a main member of the group (only the mailing list), so take it for what it's worth, but most of the ones I'm on default to replies to the owner. A few changed over to that after some stuff accidently got sent to the list that REALLY should have been private. See http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffry Smith Technical Sales Consultant Mission Critical Linux smith(a)missioncriticallinux.com phone:603.930.9739 fax:978.446.9470 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thought for today: greenbar n. A style of fanfolded continuous-feed paper with alternating green and white bars on it, especially used in old-style line printers. This slang almost certainly dates way back to mainframe days.

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Re: [Wlug] Extra Hardware
by ccb＠acm.org 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

I'll take it all. Those make excellent drives for synthesizers. ccb

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Re: [Wlug] REPLY TO FROM (!!!)
by ccb＠acm.org 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

> Of the 15 or so mailing lists that I'm regularly a participant on, there > are NO lists which are setup so replies go directly to senders instead of > the list as a whole. Replying by default only to senders hinders one of the > primary benefits of participation - that of sharing info. It is generally > considered "the way to go" to have replies default to the whole list with > strong objections made every time it is suggested that it be changed. So be it. I'll hack my MUA to suit my own tastes. ccb -- Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com

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Re: [Wlug] Lart
by ccb＠acm.org 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

Ah - "Clue Stick" ! ccb

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A fun little Friday diversion
by Theo Van Dinter 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

This isn't specifically Linux related, but it does involve penguins: http://www.bigidea.com/penguins/kids/k_spacedpenguin.htm It's a strangely addictive Shockwave game. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Astronomers say the universe is finite, which is a comforting thought for those people who can't remember where they leave things." - Unknown

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Lart
by Adam ＠ Oak 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

Not L.A.R.T. ;) I found the project to for the small open source hardware project I remembered at last night's meeting: http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ -Adam end ___________________________________________________ Adam S. Keck | | 593 Centre St. | "Got BSD?" (my current toy) Jamaica Plain, Boston | Ma, 02130 | ---------------------------------------------------

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REMINDER: Next meeting on Thursday
by Andy Stewart 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

HI gang, The next WLUG meeting will be held this week on Thursday, August 16th at 7:00 PM in "the usual place". Please check the WLUG website for more information. At this meeting, the speaker will be Brian Conway, who will be talking about the use of DVDs with Linux. Bring your favorite DVD and maybe we can play it on a Linux system! After the meeting, we'll be going to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer and anybody who comes to the meeting is welcome to join us. Come on down...it should be a good time. Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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More stuff!
by Theo Van Dinter 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

Sorry for the short notice, but we found some more stuff while gathering equipment for tonight's meeting! If you're interested in something for the meeting, please let me know before 5:30pm. hardware: Adtran DSU II AR (CSU/DSU) 5 dec hubs/repeaters (only 3 power supplies) 3 button mouse P133 CPU w/ fan random sealed card (NVRAM board I think) and memory for a PIX 10000 firewall. software: (windows, sorry...) shrinkwrapped box, "CD-ROM Bundle" - "Encyclopedia 6 Titles Bundle: (1-4) Mindscape CD Deluxe 4 Pack includes: * Chessmaster 4000, * Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing! v3.0, * U.S. Atlas v5.0, * World Atlas v5.0, (5) The San Diego Zoo: The Animals! v2.0, (6) Compton's Encyclopedia 1997 book: Computers, Ethics & Social Values edited by Johnson and Nissenbaum. c.1995 Prentice Hall -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Linux: Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste. (By komarimf(a)craft.camp.clarkson.edu, Mark Komarinski)

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RE: [Wlug] Cheap RAM ...
by Keller, Tim 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

The "GENERIC" manufacturer scares me a bit... Though on the same vein, I saw that Short-circuit city is selling "Centon" 256MB PC100 ram for 44.99 after rebate. Once again, I'm not sure if Centon is any better than GENERIC. Though for 120 bucks I could have 2gig of ram in my machine (provided my motherboard would support more than 128mb per slot)! Hmmm... now I just need a server motherboard that has like 12 memory slots!!! (kneeds hands together thinking about having to turn on BIGMEM stuff in kernel :-P) I went looking on http://www.thechipmerchant.com/19633-0.html (which I've had great luck with buying stuff) and it looks like there selling something comparable for 50.00 bucks... however they gave specific chipsets it would work with. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 4:59 PM To: Worcester Linux User's Group Subject: [Wlug] Cheap RAM ... A friend sent this to me and I thought others would be interested: http://store.ccraft.net/PPmain.asp?ItemCode=3398&Action=Mostrar&msk=PD 512MB PC133 for $30 each. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Duct tape is like the force; it has a light side & a dark side, and it holds the universe together." - Zen Musings _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Cheap RAM ...
by Theo Van Dinter 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

A friend sent this to me and I thought others would be interested: http://store.ccraft.net/PPmain.asp?ItemCode=3398&Action=Mostrar&msk=PD 512MB PC133 for $30 each. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Duct tape is like the force; it has a light side & a dark side, and it holds the universe together." - Zen Musings

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Extra Hardware
by Brian Niece 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

It is with a heavy heart that I make the following announcement: After seven enjoyable and educational years, I am shutting down my last Linux computer. After taking out the parts that I need for my zippy new Athlon and donating most of the computer to my employer, I will have the following left over. I don't feel like dealing with Ebay, so I will gladly give them to the first respondents who contact me and are willing to pick them up. The items are: 1 Seagate Medalist Pro 1080, 1 Gb SCSI hard drive 1 Seagate Medalist Pro 2160, 2 Gb SCSI hard drive 1 Sony CDU76S, 4x SCSI CD-ROM Drive 1 50 pin internal SCSI hard drive cable. -- Brian K. Niece, Ph.D. Assistant Professor of Chemistry Assumption College 500 Salisbury St. Worcester, MA 01609-1296 508-767-7209

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DVD's to bring?
by Keller, Tim 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

Hey All, For the DVD demo thingy, what are people going to bring for DVD's? I'll bring "Ghost in the Shell". The thing that makes this DVD so special is that for some reason the authors chose not to encrypt the disk using CSS. Its the only non encrypted DVD I've ever come across. Tim.

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REMINDER: Next meeting on Thursday
by Andy Stewart 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

HI gang, The next WLUG meeting will be held this week on Thursday, August 16th at 7:00 PM in "the usual place". Please check the WLUG website for more information. At this meeting, the speaker will be Brian Conway, who will be talking about the use of DVDs with Linux. Bring your favorite DVD and maybe we can play it on a Linux system! After the meeting, we'll be going to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer and anybody who comes to the meeting is welcome to join us. Come on down...it should be a good time. Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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Network Install
by Colin Novick 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

I freely confess my inexperience. I have done a number of successful CDROM installs from Mandrake 6.1-7.1-7.2. I have an old box I scrounged but without a servicable CDROM drive. I want to install Linux on it, but need to do a Network Install. I am not finding detailed documentation on this and will continue to hunt. If anyone has a hint as to where to look or experience to kick me in the pants in the right direction I would be terribly grateful. Thanks Colin

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phpgroupware?
by Wesley Allen 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

Greetings, We've just set up a new mail server here where I work and we want to get phpgroupware up as a web-client. Here is my question, does anyone know of any way we can set phpgroupware to auto-sync linux users with the mysql database backend? Any info would be useful, I don't want to have to set everyone up twice. Wes

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Re: [Wlug] Question
by Wesley Allen 12 Aug '01

12 Aug '01

Do a home network and hack it together. The sugguestion about getting involved in help-desk work is really good too because all of the sudden you HAVE to learn all this stuff so you can help people (though you may go insane doing it, "I've got 600 messages in my "saved" box on the mail server, should I have backed these up on my local machine?"). If you've got a friend who is a system admin start talking to them as you hack your network, this will have to be a good friend who will not mind giving you advice for free that he charges other people for; but friends can put into English what man pages can only put into "networkspeak", without friends, I'd never even tried to learn linux and would still be a slave of Microsoft. Wes ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:57:27 -0400 >On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 02:25:15PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: >> I've seen good comments made about: >> >> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471345865/qid=997293880/sr=1-24/ref… > >Also ISBN 0-201-43319-2 > >-- >Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 15 >Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | >P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the >world like English did. Er, *as* English did... > -- Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393(a)wall.org> >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Problem with X
by Long, Mike 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

Hi All, I have XFree36 3.x installed and can use startx to launch icewm. When I install KDE2 and run startx it crashes with the following (paraphrased) message: ksmserver: Error in loading shared library libGL.so.1 ksplash: Error in loading shared library libGL.so.1 kdeinit: Error in loading shared library libGL.so.1 knotify: Error in loading shared library libGL.so.1 grep /root/.kde2/.root_warning file not found. I tried 'startx icewm' with the same results As soon as I uninstall KDE2 startx works again. Why would startx be broken even if I am not starting KDE2. Thanks, Mike

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Re: [Wlug] embedded QT
by Wesley Allen 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

I'm glad they've got a spreadsheet. Now...does anyone have a serial cable I can borror until I convince my wife that spending $30.00 so I can hack my iPAQ is a good idea? OR...has anyone installed familiar/qte through an usb cable, and the handhelds.org site is just wrong when it says it can't be done? Wes ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Brad Noyes <maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 11:54:41 -0400 >Hi Wesley, >I installed QTe on my ipaq a few weeks ago. I does in fact, >have a spread sheet. I haven't really used it that much, but >its there. You might be able to get an idea on how it looks >and feels if you try to set up QTe for your PC before you >actually install it (http://qpe.sourceforge.net/x86.html) >I think QTe is great for my ipaq. There are few things missing, >for example i can't figure out how to get the databook to >remind me of appointments. I haven't tried to irsync with a >plam yet, so i can't say if it works or not. > >good luck with installing, >--Brad > >On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 07:57:06AM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: >> It looks like I'm finally going to have time to go out and >> pick up a serial cable so I can get brother Bill off of my >> iPAQ. But I've got a question for anyone who has done this >> ahead of me: >> >> Are there any speadsheets that have either been created for >> familiar linux or Embedded QT? The QTpalmtop web site has >> got some screen shots, and one has a link to a spreadsheet, >> but they don't mention it and I can't find the package >> anywhere. Unfortuately, I've got to have a spreadsheet so I >> can keep track of hours and expenses and such, so I'm kinda >> stuck, maybe I shoulda gotten a vr3? >> >> Also, are there any utilities out there that would allow me >> to do irsync with palms? > >> > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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embedded QT
by Wesley Allen 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

It looks like I'm finally going to have time to go out and pick up a serial cable so I can get brother Bill off of my iPAQ. But I've got a question for anyone who has done this ahead of me: Are there any speadsheets that have either been created for familiar linux or Embedded QT? The QTpalmtop web site has got some screen shots, and one has a link to a spreadsheet, but they don't mention it and I can't find the package anywhere. Unfortuately, I've got to have a spreadsheet so I can keep track of hours and expenses and such, so I'm kinda stuck, maybe I shoulda gotten a vr3? Also, are there any utilities out there that would allow me to do irsync with palms?

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Local Linux PC companies
by mike 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

I'm looking for recommendations on local (Worcester to Natick, Westboro to Leominster, etc.) Linux-centric PC companies to buy an Athlon PC. If they only sell Windows systems I'll take those recommendations too if it's a build to order site. Thanks... Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Wlug] Local Linux PC companies
by Wesley Allen 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

I'll grab the name later, but there is a place on route 30 in Westborough that will build a PC to spec and put whatever distro you want on it. They're primarily a windows office, but when I asked about Linux they said, "Sure, we've been getting more and more requests for Linux lately and we'll put whatever you want on it!" This makes me happy. Like I said, I'll get the name/number later, but take rt 30 from 9 into town and you can't miss it on your left (about 100 yards before the traffic circle). Wes ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: mike <mhardy_mail(a)yahoo.com> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 17:43:34 -0700 (PDT) >I'm looking for recommendations on local (Worcester to >Natick, Westboro to Leominster, etc.) Linux-centric PC >companies to buy an Athlon PC. If they only sell >Windows systems I'll take those recommendations too if >it's a build to order site. > >Thanks... > >Mike > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger >http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Question
by Pierce C. Barnard 08 Aug '01

08 Aug '01

Hi, I am interested in becoming a network administrator. Can anyone give me some information on becoming an admin?

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RE: [Wlug] Question
by Simoncini, Matthew 08 Aug '01

08 Aug '01

I have been working as a Unix Sys Admin for Accenture (formerly Andersen Consulting) for the last few months, although I have been with the company for 3 years. I agree with what Gary said and additionally would add getting your foot in the door working at a helpdesk somewhere. I know from experience that most tech companies will look within before hiring from the outside to fill positions. Willingness to learn, adapt to change, and good teamwork skills are also highly desired when companies look to hire. Good luck. Matthew -----Original Message----- From: Gary J. Hanley [mailto:ghanley@world.std.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:40 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Question Well, I'm not a Network Admin, but I would suggest the cheapest way to start is to build a home network with a hub and at least cheap 3 PCs doing different functions to serve the network (DNS, Sendmail, etc.) Get some networking books and tweak, tweak, tweak! After that you can either build up your network with more hardware or take mid-to-senior level classes. Either way it will start to cost you more money as you progress. :-| -- Gary On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Pierce C. Barnard wrote: > Hi, I am interested in becoming a network administrator. Can anyone give > me some information on becoming an admin? _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] System crash
by Long, Mike 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

I am running SuSE 7.0 with the 2.2.18? kernel. I have not compiled my own kernel before. Last night when attempting to upgrade to XFree86 4.1 I somehow f**ked up my configuration and can now only run X as root and I don't know what changed to cause that to happen. I had backed up my entire partition so the original configuration files are around but I am not sure which files I should restore to get back to my original configuration. I am contemplating upgrading to SuSE 7.2 with the 2.4.x kernel and reformatting my partition to be a Rieserfs file system. Is this configuration likely to be any more stable than my current configuration? -----Original Message----- From: Ben Dow [mailto:bdow@WPI.EDU] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 10:43 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] System crash Well, XFree86 4.1 is out, which is what I was referring to, but as far as I know, that's a really well-supported video card (the chipset's been around forever)... what kernel are you running? Is it a stock Suse kernel? Do you know how to compile your own, if it might help? On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Michael Long wrote: > I saw on the suse website where there is an updated version of XFree86 > (4.0.2) as well as an updated xloader and xmodules packages. I will be > installing these and see if this solves the problem. > > As for my system components: > ABIT KT7-RAID Motherboard w/ an Athlon 800 > ATI Rage 128 video card > SoundBlaster Live > 2 Realtek RTL8139B ethernet cards > 2 DiamondMax Hard drives > Toshiba CD-RW/DVD-ROM #SD-R1002 > > The output from lspci is: > 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0305 (rev 02) > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 8305 > 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super] (rev 22) > 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] (rev 10) > 00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10) > 00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10) > 00:07.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev > 30) > 00:09.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics Venus Modem (V90, > 56KFlex) > 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) > 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) > 00:0f.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10000 (rev 08) > 00:0f.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! (rev 08) > 00:13.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 > (rev 03) > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF > > > On Monday 06 August 2001 11:34, you wrote: > > I've seen this kind of thing happen for 2 reasons I've been able to figure > > out on my systems... after running XFree86 4 for a few minutes with my > > Diamond (since taken over by S3, now SonicBlue... it's so hard to keep > > track) Stealth III S540 (based on the Savage 4 or 4+, I think), the system > > will lock up hard... 3.3.6 was no problem, and I haven't tried the latest > > version of X, which is now supposed to have special drivers for that > > chipset, and it tends to happen much more often than once every few days, > > but since I know nothing about your system, I thought I'd mention it... > > The other thing that seems to cause it is a lot of hard disk activity on > > an Intel PIIX3 controller (for an old Pentium/166). Copying large files > > to/from a Reiserfs partition with DMA enabled seems to really do the trick > > (I should probably send in a kernel bug report, really)... but that's > > another possibility, I guess. Again, tell us some more about your system > > (lspci often gives useful information). > > Now to wake up. > > > > Ben > > > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Long, Mike wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have been having problems with my system locking to the point where I > > > needed to press the reset button to recycle the box. Well, this happened > > > again and this time things are not working properly after bringing the > > > system back up. I have been able to start networking services and I can > > > start KDE desktop but none of my X applications will run. Now I have > > > several questions: > > > > > > 1) What type of problems could have been created by an improper shutdown > > > of the box? > > > 2) Will reinstalling KDE fix this problem? > > > 3) How do I go about figuring out what is causing my machine to lock up? > > > It is happening frequently (every few days) > > > and when I am doing different things. I have not been able to > > > determine a pattern. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Secure Modems (A little off topic)
by cc.noyes 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

Does anyone know of a secure modem(s) that does MD4, MD5 or SHA1 authentication? They would be running with UnixWare and Solaris platforms. I would guess that they're probably O/S independent. Thanks, Chuck

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System crash
by Long, Mike 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

Hi all, I have been having problems with my system locking to the point where I needed to press the reset button to recycle the box. Well, this happened again and this time things are not working properly after bringing the system back up. I have been able to start networking services and I can start KDE desktop but none of my X applications will run. Now I have several questions: 1) What type of problems could have been created by an improper shutdown of the box? 2) Will reinstalling KDE fix this problem? 3) How do I go about figuring out what is causing my machine to lock up? It is happening frequently (every few days) and when I am doing different things. I have not been able to determine a pattern. Thanks, Mike

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Possible topic for the next meeting?
by Brian J. Conway 06 Aug '01

06 Aug '01

Greetings, I don't know whether there is a topic for the next meeting and it just hasn't made it onto the web page or not, but I figured I'd offer a suggestion to the group. Is anyone interested on seeing a presentation on the various DVD players that are available for Linux along with their setup. hardware support, and configuration, etc? I'm headed to the west coast next week for a 7-day Alaskan cruise, and I really need something to do for the 6-hour plane ride each way other than watching Top Gun. I'd be happy to do so, but I figured I'd ask the group instead of just mailing Andy as "installing and running a couple of apps in Linux" might be on the light side for a presentation. If people are interested and there's already something for this month, just let me know and I'll write something up. Just my two cents, let me know if there's any interest (this hasn't already been done, right?). Brian J. Conway dogbert(a)clue4all.net Geek for hire: http://clue4all.net/resume Power Mac G4 Cube. Some of us are getting laid tonight. (http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20010509)

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bizzare font behavior
by brad 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

Hey all, Each time i boot my machine it seems to toggle between two interpretations of 12pt fonts. There seems to be a random patten for my computer interpreting fonts. One time it will be really, small, the next boot, it will have big fonts. The font configuration is the same (mostly size 10pt font in KDE2). But each time the computer boots, i have no idea if I'm going to be able to read the fonts on my screen, or if it's going to be too big. It's on a RH7.1 i installed few weeks ago. I have KDE2 running, and i have the graphical login window when i boot. Any ideas? Thanks, --Brad

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Re: [Wlug] type1 fonts...
by Wesley Allen 03 Aug '01

03 Aug '01

---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Skip Gaede <sgaede(a)mediaone.net> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:17:20 -0400 >On Friday 03 August 2001 08:05, Skip wrote: >> On Thursday 02 August 2001 17:18, Wesley Allen wrote: >> > Hello all, >> > I've got some nice type 1 fonts that I want to insert for use in X >> > and in ghostscript. Can anyone run though the right command sequences to >> > do this? >> >> Sure, Wes. It really isn't difficult, and you'll be pleased to know there >> are many ways you can do it. Have you found the web site >> http://www.linuxdoc.org yet? At linuxdoc there is an excellent set of >> documentation that's well written and easy to understand. They have a >> search engine, and entering Type 1 fonts should lead you to a HOWTO on how >> to do it. >> >> Have said that, two things need to happen: >> >> 1) X has to know where to find the fonts >> 2) The directory needs to have a special file called fonts.dir >> >> rm -f fonts.dir && ttmkfontdir . > >Before someone else jumps on this, the above line should have read > >(in the directory where your fonts are located, type) > >rm -f fonts.dir && mkfontdir . > >(The other command was for TrueType fonts!) > >--Skip >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Skip, I was already doing what you said, but my fonts.dir file is consistently coming up with "0" as the number of fonts in the directory. Any ideas as to why? Wes

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type1 fonts...
by Wesley Allen 03 Aug '01

03 Aug '01

Hello all, I've got some nice type 1 fonts that I want to insert for use in X and in ghostscript. Can anyone run though the right command sequences to do this? Thanks, Wes

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ipaq and QTe
by Brad Noyes 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

Hey Gang, I finally installed linux on my ipaq, and installed QT embedded last night, and part of this morning. I like it so far, there are a few things that are missing, one of which i find to be a real big down side. I can't seem to turn off the back light. I don't want all my batter sucked up from the backlight. Anyone else have this problem know how to fix this, or have any suggestions? i was also wondering if anyone knows of any/some good sync tools, for linux, and the ipaq. Thanks, --Brad

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length of meetings
by Orion 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

How long do the monthly meetings last? I'm stuck working third shift, and I have to be at work at 11pm. (and I'm guessing a 45 minute drive) *whine* Looking forward to being able to attend sometime... -- Aaron Haviland orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org orion [at] parsed [dot] net "Firelight --- ooooooooohhh."

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Re: [Wlug] cable mode and firewall...
by Wesley Allen 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

That did it! I knew they were a bit screwy there. Do you know if they consider NAT a "proxy"? If they do they can kiss my business goodbuy, I'm not leaving windows unguarded, and 2 firewalls is better than one in linux! Thanks for the help! Wes ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Chad Pytel <cpytel(a)WPI.EDU> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:51:12 -0400 >The cable modem that I have from charter (Motorola Surfboard 4100) cache's >and locks onto one MAC address. You need to reboot the cable modem by >unplugging it and plugging it back in (Or going to the modem's webpage at >http://192.168.100.1 and restarting it). Not sure if this is your problem, >but in people questions about Charter I haven't heard anyone mention this >"feature" of the modem their handing out now. > >Hope this helps, >-Chad > >On Monday 30 July 2001 08:23 pm, you wrote: >> Hi, >> I just got broadband at home and am loving every minute of it. But I'm >> hitting one snag... >> >> I dusted off an old sonicwall we had lying around at my job and got >> permission to take it home, after hacking the firewall I got everything set >> up and ready to go, my wan was hooked up to the cable modem, my lan was >> hooked up to the hub, the dhcp server was set up, and I had NAT w/dhcp >> client as the default setting. So I reboot the firewall and it doesn't get >> an ip address! I erase any trace of the older, static, settings, and try >> again, noting. Has anyone else got this problem? I'm stuck with Char er >> communications, do they have some way to avoid giving addresses to >> firewalls; if so, hello DSL my wife is tied to windows and I'm not shelling >> out money for something that comes built into linux. >> >> Thanks, >> Wes >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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cable mode and firewall...
by Wesley Allen 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Hi, I just got broadband at home and am loving every minute of it. But I'm hitting one snag... I dusted off an old sonicwall we had lying around at my job and got permission to take it home, after hacking the firewall I got everything set up and ready to go, my wan was hooked up to the cable modem, my lan was hooked up to the hub, the dhcp server was set up, and I had NAT w/dhcp client as the default setting. So I reboot the firewall and it doesn't get an ip address! I erase any trace of the older, static, settings, and try again, noting. Has anyone else got this problem? I'm stuck with Charter communications, do they have some way to avoid giving addresses to firewalls; if so, hello DSL my wife is tied to windows and I'm not shelling out money for something that comes built into linux. Thanks, Wes

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Re: [Wlug] HELP ME
by Wesley Allen 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Michael and Sharon Burns" <vze2b2jw(a)verizon.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:33:05 -0400 >I have a copy of Mandrake 7.2 . >Will some one please help me install it? >I can get it installed but cannot get it to go on line. >i have dsl, and it recognises my network card but will not configure it . 7.2 had some problems with DSL as far as I can remember, and do you know what type of network card you've got? Mandrake snags just about any kind, though my usb nic had to be hand configured even though it knew what it was. I've got a couple of copies of 8.0, it got my cable service up and running w/ no problems. > >I also am stuck with a winmodem. My advice with the winmodem...take it out, nail it to the wall, and smile when you think of how you don't need to use it anymore... > > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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HELP ME
by Michael and Sharon Burns 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

I have a copy of Mandrake 7.2 . Will some one please help me install it? I can get it installed but cannot get it to go on line. i have dsl, and it recognises my network card but will not configure it . I also am stuck with a winmodem.

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apache server
by jim stith 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

dan; yes, i can ping client to server and server to client. i looked at ipchains -L -n and the only source other than 0.0.0.0/0 was 192.168.1.1 which is the ip address of the server and the target was accept at ports 53 -> *. the other accept was prot all source 0.0.0.0/0 and ports n/a. everything else had target of reject (tcp udp) et.al. chain forward policy is accept chain output policy is accept now to be honest with you, i haven't much of a clue what the above means. hopefully, you do. any more help muchly appreciated. jim s

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Firewall Script hacking (LONG)
by Paul Gelinas 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

Hi, I've been meaning to do this for months, so here goes: Many of you (like me) probably use Bob Ziegler's firewall scripts (or some variant/derivative thereof) for maintaining your firewall. These scripts (particularly the IANA listings) need to be updated periodically.

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Fwd: [Don.Reagan@trw.com: Need help on a Linux issue]
by Andy Stewart 26 Jul '01

26 Jul '01

HI gang, If anybody feels like writing an answer to this technical question, you have a chance of getting it published in SysAdmin magazine. If you're interested, directly contact Don.Reagan(a)trw.com ASAP. Thanks, Andy ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [Don.Reagan(a)trw.com: Need help on a Linux issue] Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 16:58:41 -0400 From: <arr(a)oceanwave.com> To: andystewart(a)mediaone.net Howdy, Liz (your sister) said you'd be the man who may know the answer to this. I write a column (Q&A) for SysAdmin magazine, but I'm not a Linux person and know diddly about their printing stuff. If you can answer this guy's question (cc me) and it's a sufficiently complex answer, I'll be happy to print it in the next issue I write up. If you're not interested, thanks for reading this far, and sorry for bothering you. :} ------- start of forwarded message (RFC 934 encapsulation) ------- Importance: Normal From: "Don Reagan" <Don.Reagan(a)trw.com> To: <jrmckins(a)yahoo.com>, <arr(a)oceanwave.com> Subject: Need help on a Linux issue Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:47:31 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C114FF.9640F520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a reader of the Sys Admin magazine. I was wondering if you can help me on a Linux issue. I can't print to a networked HP LJ 5Si printer. Notes: I Can ping the printer. I can ping all network resources. Printer is in the same hub as my computer. Tried to setup printer on computer using CUPS, LPR, PDQ, PRINTTOOL, and Mandrake Hardware setup tool. CUPS asks me for a command line. I tried something like "IPP://PrintServer/PrinterName:9100" Also with the word socket in the front. None of the examples I have seen ask for the IP. I tried one command line with the IP but it didn't work. None of the documentation is clear on networked HP printers. It seems like I have tried every combination. Tried a raw IP print to the printer "lpr raw(a)123.123.123.123 test" Printer runs these protocols: Netware, TCP/IP, AppleTalk, and LAT. We print to this printer in Windows using a Windows 2000 print server. I am the maverick I want to dual boot Windows and Linux. Using CUPS (Common Unix Printing Service) with IPP, Socket, and other setup lines. Not sure of the command line for this. I tried editing the /etc/printcap, and /etc/printrc files. I Got the PDD for the HP 5Si printer. I thought maybe my editing of printcap or printrc was stopping the CUPS or other methods of setup from working so I went back to the original copies. Oh ya, before you say something simple like read the print man page--I did, also I went to Mandrake documentation, HP printing for Unix web page, read the documentation at Linuxprinting.org web site, Read the printing documentation at Red Hat web site. Not sure it is a HP Jetdirect network card in the printer. Though I suspect I could use HP Jetdirect software to set it up on a Windows machine. I guess what I really need is someone who has printed from a Linux variant to a networked HP printer. Everything I read says this is traditionally a hard issue because of varies issues. Compatibility has been an issue. System: Mandrake Linux v8 full install, Dell GX110 computer. 3Com905 network card. Thank you, Don Reagan Senior Systems Administrator 310.812.6273, don.reagan(a)trw.com TRW Systems/IIT (S&ITG) One Space Park, R2/1015C, Redondo Beach, CA. 90278 -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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Fwd: Call for Papers: 2002 USENIX Annual Technical Conference
by Andy Stewart 26 Jul '01

26 Jul '01

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Call for Papers: 2002 USENIX Annual Technical Conference Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:50:25 -0700 From: Usenix Assocation <mktgadm(a)usenix.org> To: astewart(a)world.std.com Attn: Worcester Linux Users' Group Dear Worcester Linux Users' Group, Below is a conference announcement and Call for Papers for the 2002 USENIX Annual Tehcnical Conference. Please let me know if you have a more appropriate method for submitting this information. Thank you for your assistance! Best Regards, Alexandra Szczepanski USENIX Association/SAGE 2560 Ninth Street, Suite 215 Berkeley, CA. 94710 ph (510) 528-8649 fx (510) 548-5738 www.usenix.org ----------------------------------------------------------- 2002 USENIX Annual Technical Conference June 9-14, 2002 Monterey, CA http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix02/ The 2002 USENIX Technical Conference seeks original and innovative papers about the applications, architecture, implementation, and performance of modern computing systems. As at all USENIX conferences, papers that analyze problem areas and draw important conclusions from practical experience are especially welcome. Some particularly interesting application topics are: *Cluster computing *File systems and storage systems *Complexity management *Distributed caching and replication *Mobile code *Mobile/Wireless computing *Multimedia *Networking and network services *Reliability and QoS *Security and privacy *Ubiquitous computing *usage studies *Web technologies *Energy/Power Management *Interoperability of heterogeneous systems FREENIX is a special track within the USENIX Annual Technical Conference that showcases the latest developments and applications in freely redistributed technology. The FREENIX track covers the full range of software and source code including but not limited to Apache, Darwin, FreeBSD, GNOME, GNU, KDE, Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, Perl, PHP, Python, Samba, Tcl/Tk and more. FREENIX is looking for papers about projects with a solid emphasis on nurturing the open source/freely available software community and talks which advance the state of the art of freely redistributable software. Areas of interest include, but are not limited to: *Cross-platform source portability and binary compatibility *Desktop metaphors *Distributed and parallel systems *Documentation *File system design *Highly-available systems *Graphical user interface tools *Storage Systems *Highly-scalable and clustered systems *Security *System and user management tools *Quality Assurance *Large scale system management *Print Systems *Free Software development/mgmt *Operating system design *Interesting deployments of free software Submission guidelines and conference details are available on our website: http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix02/cfp/ Submissions to the Freenix Track are due on November 12, 2001. Submissions to the General Refereed Sessions Track are due on November 19, 2001. Join us in developing the best technical conference program of 2002! ==================================================================== The 2002 USENIX Annual Technical Conference is sponsored by USENIX, The Advanced Computing Systems Association. www.usenix.org ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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easter egg in staroffice 5.2 calc...
by Keller, Tim 26 Jul '01

26 Jul '01

(got this off the boston linux users group mail) type =GAME("StarWars") into a cell in StarOffice calc and see what happens Note: I don't have staroffice 5.2 so I can't confirm it... Tim.

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Jobs
by Doctor Orbitz 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

Hello, does anyone know of companies in the Worcester area looking for people with programming/web/*NIX skills, or of a good place to find consulting type jobs? As in making a webpage, seting up servers, etc for somebody. I'm looking for something to put my knowledge to. Thanks, Orbitz

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apache
by stith 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

i am trying to set up a server using apache. at this point i do not want it to be connected to the internet so i am trying to use a second computer to log on with. here is what i have set up: 1. server ip=192.168.1.1 ( i am using the ip and by-passing name resolution at this point). i can ping 192.168.1.1 from the server as well as localhost. i can also get the default html page up. the only changes i have made to http.conf is: a. Listen *:80 b. ServerName 192.168.1.1 c. i added the following <Directory "/var/www/html"> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> i can ping from server to client and client to server. 2. client when i try to log on to the server, i get 'netscapes network connection was refused by the server 192.168.1.1. the server may not be accepting connections or may be busy.' any help would be appreciated jim stith

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hello
by Jeff Reed 22 Jul '01

22 Jul '01

hey everyone. this is jeff from Metro West Boston LUG. just wanted to drop in and say hi. i'll be posting random stuff here and there. happy hacking! -- //- Jeff Reed //- Linux System Asministrator //- Metro West Boston Linux User Group //- jreed(a)linuxbusca.com //- (508)792-6070 //- http://www.linuxbusca.com //- http://www.blu.org //- http://www.wlug.org

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vmware crash
by Michael Long 21 Jul '01

21 Jul '01

Hi all, I have had vmware running on my system for a couple of weeks. Tonight when starting vmware my system locked up (no keyboard or mouse response) and I had to press the reset key. After bring the system up when I attempt to 'power on' vmware I get a message that says: Could not open /dev/vmnet0: No such device. How do I make this device available? After the reboot it was necessary to issue 'insmod vmmon'. Thanks, Mike

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Fwd: 5th Annual Linux Showcase and Conference
by Andy Stewart 21 Jul '01

21 Jul '01

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: 5th Annual Linux Showcase and Conference Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 10:26:06 -0700 From: Usenix Assocation <mktgadm(a)usenix.org> To: astewart(a)world.std.com Attn: Worcester Linux Users' Group Dear Worcester Linux Users' Group, I was hoping you could forward the following ALS conference information (below) to your local user group. Please let me know if you have a more appropriate method for submitting this information. (ie, a calendar of conferences/events page) Thank you for your assistance! Best Regards, Alexandra Szczepanski USENIX Association 2560 Ninth Street, Suite 215 Berkeley, CA. 94710 ph (510) 528-8649 fx (510) 548-5738 http://www.usenix.org ++++++++++++++++ Join the people who made Linux happen! 5th Annual Linux Showcase and Conference November 5-10, 2001 Oakland Convention Center, Oakland, CA http://www.linuxshowcase.org Each year, the best and the brightest in the Open source and Linux community come together at one technical conference, the Annual Linux Showcase and Conference. Now in its fifth year, ALS continues its remarkable development as the premiere technical Linux conference for savvy system administrators, end users, enthusiasts, and developers. - Enhance your already sophisticated technical skills - Gain mastery of complex techniques and technologies from the experts - Take home the solutions and knowledge to get immediate payoff within your organization. ALS Tutorial Program, November 5-7, 2001 Gain mastery of complex techniques and technologies through in-depth instruction in 12 tutorials delivering immediately useful information. Both full and half-day tutorials are offered. The tutorial program will be followed by three days of technical sessions, an XFree86 technical conference and a free vendor exhibition showcasing the products and services of over 70 top Linux companies including Compaq, Hewlett-Packard Company, Red Hat, Inc., Sun Microsystems, Inc., SuSE Inc. and VA Linux Systems Inc. For the complete conference schedule and to register visit: http://www.linuxshowcase.org Platinum Sponsors: Compaq VA Linux Hewlett-Packard Media Sponsors: Dr.Dobb's Journal Linux Journal Linux Magazine SysAdmin Magazine UserFriendly.org =============================================================== 5th Annual Linux Showcase & Conference (ALS 2001) is sponsored by USENIX, the Advanced Computing Systems Association, and the Atlanta Linux Showcase, in cooperation with Linux International. =============================================================== ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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Full analysis of the .ida "Code Red" worm. (fwd)
by Michelle Vadeboncoeur 19 Jul '01

19 Jul '01

For that "New IIS Exploit" thread: -Michelle, who just had to condense this info for another (non-technical) mailing list after the much awaited .au site got hit within hours of the site going up... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:40:11 -0700 From: Marc Maiffret <marc(a)eeye.com> To: BUGTRAQ <BUGTRAQ(a)securityfocus.com> Subject: Full analysis of the .ida "Code Red" worm. The following is a detailed analysis of the "Code Red" .ida worm that we reported on July 17th 2001. This analysis was performed by Ryan Permeh and Marc Maiffret of eEye Digital Security. The disassembly (complete with comments) was done by Ryan "Shellcode Ninja" Permeh. Table of Contents ================= 1. Introduction 2. Explanation 3. Commentary 4. Deep Analysis 5. Conclusion 6. Appendix 7. Credits You can get a copy of this analysis, commented disassembly, full IDA database, and binary of worm from http://www.eeye.com/html/advisories/codered.zip Introduction ============ On Friday July 13th we received packet logs and information from 2 network administrators that were experiencing large amounts of attacks targeting the recent .ida vulnerability that eEye Digital Security discovered (http://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Advisories/AD20010618.html) on June 18, 2001. After reviewing the logs sent to us we determined that in fact someone had released a worm into the Internet that was spreading rapidly through IIS web servers. The full analysis of the .ida "Code Red" worm has provided numerous new details as to the functionality and method of propagation of this worm. For instance this worms purpose ultimately seems to be to perform a denial of service attack against www.whitehouse.gov. Also it has been found that only US English Windows NT/2000 systems will show the defaced ("Hacked by Chinese !") web page. We've designated this the .ida "Code Red" worm, because part of the worm is designed to deface web pages with the text "Hacked by Chinese" and also because code red mountain dew was the only thing that kept us awake all last night to be able to disassemble this exploit even further. Explanation =========== As stated earlier the .ida "Code Red" worm is spreading throughout IIS web servers on the Internet via the .ida buffer overflow attack that was published weeks ago. The following are the steps that the worm takes once it has infected a vulnerable web server. 1. Setup initial worm environment on infected system. 2. Setup a 100 threads of the worm 3. The first 99 threads are used to spread the worm (infect other web servers). -The worm spreads itself by creating a sequence of random IP addresses. However, the worm's randomization of IP addresses to attack is not all together random. In fact there seems to be a static seed that the worm uses when generating new IP addresses to try to attack. Therefore every computer infected by this worm is going to go through the same list of random IP addresses to try to infect. The "problem" with that is that the worm is going to end up reinfecting systems and also end up crossing traffic back and forth between hosts to end up creating a denial of service type affect because of the amount of data that will be transferred between all the IP addresses in the sequence of random IP addresses. The worm could have done truly random IP generation and that would have allowed it to infect a lot more systems a lot faster. We are not sure why that was not done but a friend of ours did pose an interesting idea... If the person who wrote this worm owned an IP address that was one of the first hundred or thousand etc... to be scanned then they could setup a sniffer and anytime and IP address tried to connect to port 80 on their IP address they would know that the IP address that connected to them was infected with the worm and they would therefore be able to create a list of the majority of systems that were infected by this worm. 4. The 100th thread checks to see if it is running on a English (US) Windows NT/2000 system. -If the infected system is found to be a English (US) system then the worm will proceed to deface the infected systems website. That means... the local web servers web page will be changed to a message that says Welcome to http://www.worm.com !, Hacked By Chinese!. This hacked web page message will stay "live" on the web server for 10 hours and then disappear and never appear again unless the infected system is re-infected by another host. -If the system is not a English (US) Windows NT/2000 system then the 100th worm thread is also used to infect other systems. 5. Each worm thread checks for c:\notworm -If the file c:\notworm is found, the worm goes dormant. -If the file is not found then each thread will continue to attempt to infect more systems. 6. Each worm thread will now check the infected computers time. -If the time is between 20:00 UTC and 23:59 UTC then the worm will proceed to use this thread to attack www.whitehouse.gov. The attack consists of the infected system sending 100k bytes of data to port 80 of www.whitehouse.gov therefore potentially performing a denial of service attack against www.whitehouse.gov. -If the time is below 20:00 UTC then this worm thread will try to find and infect new web servers. In testing we have calculated that the worm can attempt to infect roughly half a million IP addresses a day and that was a ruff estimate made from using a very slow network. As of writing this document (July 18 6:49pm) we have had reports from administrators that have been probed by over 12 thousand unique hosts. That basically means at least 12 thousand hosts have been infected by this worm. In testing we have seen that sometimes the worm does not execute correctly and will continue to spawn new threads until the infected machine crashes and has to be rebooted. We have not been able to isolate the cause of this behavior. Commentary ========== As we sat and watched this worm spread itself through the Internet we were somewhat dumbfounded as to the number of reported systems being infected. The main reason for that is that this worm is using a, what we thought to be, very well known vulnerability. A patch for this vulnerability has been available for over a month now and at the time of the release of the vulnerability many news agencies ran stories about it therefore trying to spread awareness. Even with all of that though there have still been, at the very least, 12 thousand web servers infected by this worm. So we once again encourage administrators to pay attention to security issues and patch their systems as soon as patches are available for holes. All of this research would not be available if we were not a Full Disclosure company and if the many people who helped us research this worm were against full disclosure. Although we did not release any exploit code for the .ida vulnerability, the computer underground still had no problem creating a devastating worm. In the past we have seen a much higher percentage of patched systems when example exploit code was provided. System administrators do not believe vulnerabilities exist without a public exploit, or until something like this worm happens forcing them to patch their systems. We feel that if the security community moves away from Full Disclosure more incidents like this will happen and everyone will be left in the dark as to what is going on. An example of why full disclosure is so important would be this worm itself. Chances are this worm would have not been discovered if we had not fully disclosed details about the .ida vulnerability, allowing Intrusion Detection System vendors to create signatures for the .ida buffer overflow attack. Because of the way that IIS performs logging (logging a request after processing it), servers hit with this worm will actually have no traces of information left in the IIS log files making tracking this worm (via IIS logs) virtually impossible. The first instances of _anyone_ learning anything useful about this worm was via Intrusion Detection Systems that had signatures based on our .ida vulnerability research which would not have been there if not for full disclosure. The computer underground continues to find vulnerabilities everyday. If full disclosure goes away, then the general security community is left in the dark, and therefore so are administrators. More and more we are seeing an increase in worms attacking the Internet. There have been about 2 or 3 worms in as many months. Worms force computer security to become a global issue. With the rise of the Internet, not only do you have to worry about securing your own systems, you must also be careful of your "neighbors" systems. For instance with this worm even if you have done everything right (installed the .ida patch etc...) your network connection could still be taken down because of the amount of data flooding you from all of the "other guys" who hadn't applied patches and were infected by this worm. It is important to not only maintain your own security but make sure that other people you come in contact with secure their sites. Only with global cooperation to maintain security will the threat of worms start disappear. We received information from "friends" that leads us to believe that this worm is actually a derivative of another worm which was written to exploit the first ever remote IIS buffer overflow (also discovered by eEye Digital Security), the .htr buffer overflow. From reports, the .htr worm had a much smaller infection base and seemed to go under the radar probably because the .htr vulnerability was/is very old. Deep Analysis ============= The following is a very detailed analysis of what the worm is doing at each step of its infection. Full disassembled and commented worm code is available at our website at http://www.eeye.com/html/advisories/codered.zip. It will be provided as both a assembly text dump and as a IDA (Interactive Disassembler) database file. We have chosen not distribute the worm code in this eMail as to not clog up your bandwidth anymore then we already are >:-] Note: We will use CODEREF comments in the analysis to reference where we are in the disassembled code so you can "follow along" with us. The tools that we used to perform this detailed analysis were: IDA (Interactive Disassembler) from www.datarescue.com. IDA is an advanced disassembler that made this analysis possible. MS VC++ debugging environment. We used this to monitor modified pieces of the worm as they interacted with IIS. Ryan's brain + Marc's brain + private eEye tools. No... you cant have any of those. We will be heavily referencing the disassembled worm code in the following analysis. In an attempt to make this easier to understand we have broken the functionality of the worm into 3 parts. The core worm functionality, the worm hack web page functionality and the attack www.whitehouse.gov functionality. Core worm functionality ----------------------- 1. Initial infection vector (i.e. host is vulnerable to the .ida attack and gets hit with this worm). The initial infection starts to take place when a web server, vulnerable to the .ida attack, is hit with a HTTP get request that contains the necessary code to exploit the .ida attack and uses this worm as its payload. At the time of the .ida overflow a systems stack memory will look like the following: <MORE 4E 00> 4E 00 4E 00 4E 00 4E 00 4E 00 4E 00 4E 00 4E 00 4E 00 4E 00 4E 00 4E 00 92 90 58 68 4E 00 4E 00 4E 00 4E 00 4E 00 4E 00 FA 00 00 00 90 90 58 68 D3 CB 01 78 90 90 58 68 D3 CB 01 78 90 90 58 68 D3 CB 01 78 90 90 90 90 90 81 C3 00 03 00 00 8B 1B 53 FF 53 78 EIP is overwritten with 0x7801CBD3 which an address within msvcrt.dll. The code at 0x7801CBD3 disassembles to: call ebx When EIP is overwritten with call ebx it then causes program flow to divert back to the stack. The code on the stack jumps into the worm code that's held in the body of the initial HTTP request. 2. Sets up some initial stack variables CODEREF: seg000:000001D6 WORM At this point we are executing the initial code of the worm. The first thing to happen is that the worm sets up a new stack for its own use. The new stack is 218h bytes, filled with CCh. The worm code then moves on to initialize its function jump table. The entire worm heavily uses an EBP stack based memory offset system. This means that all variables are referenced as EBP-X values. On our website we have a document called worm-ebp.txt that attempts to track stack usage throughout the course of the worm code. 3. Load functions (create the "jump table") CODEREF: seg000:00000203 DataSetup The first thing the worm code does is reference the data portion of the exploit code at EBP-198h. The worm then needs to setup its internal function jump table. A function jump table is a stack based table used to store function addresses. It allows the worm to generate the function addresses at run time (This makes the worm have a better chance of executing cleanly on more systems). The technique used by this worm is what is called an RVA (Relative Virtual Addresses) lookup. Basically this means that all functions, or specifically GetProcAddress, are found within IIS itself. For more details on RVA please consult any good PE (Portable Executable, the executable file format for Microsoft platforms) documentation, or read through the assembly code of this worm. In a nutshell, RVA techniques are used to get the address of GetProcAddress. GetProcAddress is then used to get the address of LoadLibraryA. Between these two functions all other functions that the worm may need can be easily found. The worm uses these two functions to load the following functions: >From kernel32.dll: GetSystemTime CreateThread CreateFileA Sleep GetSystemDefaultLangID VirtualProtect >From infocomm.dll: TcpSockSend >From WS2_32.dll: socket connect send recv closesocket Finally the worm stores the base address of w3svc.dll which it will later use to potentially deface the infected website. 4. Check the number of threads the worm has created. CODEREF: seg000:00000512 FUNC_LOAD_DONE Here the worm seems to perform a WriteClient (Part of the ISAPI Extension API), sending "GET" back to the attacking worm. This possibly could be a way of telling attacking worms that they have successfully infected a new host. Next the worm code will count the number of worm threads already in action. If the number of threads is 100 then control is shifted to the Worm hack web page functionality. If the number of threads is below 100 then the worm creates a new thread. Each new thread is an exact replica of the worm (Using the same code base). The worm now continues its path of execution. 6. Checks for the existence of c:\notworm CODEREF: seg000:0000079D DO_THE_WORK There seems to be a to be built in "lysine deficiency" (See Jurassic Park, or Caesar's paper on this at www.rootkit.com) A "lysine deficiency" is a built in check to keep malicious code from spreading further. In this case the "lysine deficiency" is a check for the existence of the file c:\notworm. If this file exists then the worm will become dormant. This means it will not attempt to make connections out to other IP addresses to try to infect. If this file does not exist then the worm continues onto the next step. 7. Check the infected systems time (computer clock) CODEREF: seg000:00000803 NOTWORM_NO The worm will now check the infected systems local time (in UTC). If the hour is greater then 20:00 UTC then the worm will proceed to goto the first step of the attack www.whitehouse.gov functionality. If the time is less than 20:00 UTC then the worm will attempt to continue to try to infect new systems. 8. Infect a new host (send .ida worm to a "random" IP address on port 80). At this point the worm will resend itself to any IP addresses which it can connect to port 80 on. It uses multiple send()'s so packet traffic may be broken up. On a successful completion of send, it closes the socket and goes to step 6... therefore repeating this loop infinitely. Worm hack webpage functionality ------------------------------- This functionality is called after a hundred threads are spawned within the worm. 1. Check if local system default language is English us then goto step 6 of core worm functionality. CODEREF: seg000:000005FE TOO_MANY_THREADS The first thing the worm does is get the local codepage. A codepage specifies the local operating system language (I.E. English (US), Chinese, German etc...). It then compares the local codepage against 0x409. 0x409 is the codepage for English (US) systems. If the infected system is an English (US) system then the worm will proceed to deface the local systems webpage. If the local codepage is not English (US) then this worm thread will goto step 6 of core worm functionality. 2. Sleep for 2 hours. CODEREF: seg000:00000636 IS_AMERICAN This worm thread now sleeps for 2 hours. We anticipate that this is to allow the other worm threads to attempt to spread the infection before making a presence known via defacing the infected systems webpage. 3. Attempt to modify infected systems webpages in memory. CODEREF: seg000:0000064F HACK_PAGE This worm uses an interesting technique called "hooking" to effectively deface (alter) an infected systems webpages. Hooking is modifying code in memory to point to code that the worm provides. In this case the worm is modifying w3svc.dll to change the normal operation of a function called TcpSockSend. TcpSockSend is what w3svc.dll (IIS core engine) uses to send information back to the client. By modifying this, the worm is able to change data being written back to clients who request web pages of an infected server. To perform hooking, first the worm makes the first 4000h bytes of w3svc.dll's memory writable. In a normal situation the memory for w3svc.dll (and basically all mapped dll's) is read-only. It uses the function VirtualProtect to change the memory of w3svc.dll to be writable, saving the old state to a stack variable. It then uses the saved codebase of w3svc.dll (from step 3 of core worm functionality) as a start point to search the import table (again see PE header documentation) for the address of TcpSockSend. Once the address for TcpSockSend is located the worm then replaces TcpSockSend's actual address with an address within the worm. The address that TcpSockSend now points to is a function within the worm that will return the "Hacked by Chinese !" webpage. The CODEREF for this function is seg000:00000C9A FAKE_TCPSOCKSEND. This thread of the worm now sleeps for 10 hours. During this 10 hours all web requests to the infected server will return the "Hacked by chinese !" webpage. After the 10 hours is up this thread will return w3svc.dll to its original state, including re-protecting memory. Execution after this proceeds to step 6 of the core worm functionality. Attack www.whitehouse.gov functionality --------------------------------------- Sooner or later every thread within the worm seems to shift its attacking focus to www.whitehouse.gov. 1. create socket and connect to www.whitehouse.gov on port 80 and send 100k byes of data CODEREF: seg000:000008AD WHITEHOUSE_SOCKET_SETUP Initially the worm will create a socket and connect to 198.137.240.91 (www.whitehouse.gov/www1.whitehouse.gov) on port 80. CODEREF: seg000:0000092F WHITEHOUSE_SOCKET_SEND If this connection is made then the worm will create a loop that performs 18000h single byte send()'s to www.whitehouse.gov. CODEREF: seg000:00000972 WHITEHOUSE_SLEEP_LOOP After 18000h send()'s the worm will sleep for about 4 and a half hours. It will then repeat the attack against www.whitehouse.gov (goto step one of Attack www.whitehouse.gov functionality). Appendix ======== This is associated information about the "Code Red" worm including how to stop the worm, commentary on the worm, and dispelling common misconceptions about this worm. How to secure your system from this .ida "Code Red" worm? --------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft patch for this .ida vulnerability http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/ bulletin/MS01-033.asp The worm spreads itself to new vulnerable systems via the .ida vulnerability. Applying this patch will keep your server from being infected. However, as stated earlier, because of the way the worm creates its list of "random" IP addresses to attack, you could still be affected by a high traffic overload denial of service. eEye Digital Security Advisory for .ida vulnerability http://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Advisories/AD20010618.html We initially discovered the .ida vulnerability which is being used by this worm as its infection vector. The above advisory details our research of that specific vulnerability. We worked with Microsoft to help them create a patch for the .ida vulnerability. SecureIIS - Application firewall, stops known and unknown IIS vulnerabilities. http://wwww.eeye.com/secureiis We do produce a product that protects IIS web servers from attack which is one of the reasons that we were so quick to research this worm. Funny enough in our initial testing we couldn't get the worm to work because we forgot we had SecureIIS enabled on the lab web server. heh. I have been infected by this worm what can I do? ------------------------------------------------ The first thing you must do is goto the Microsoft security site, as referenced above, and install the .ida patch ASAP. The worm will remain in memory until you reboot your server so make sure to reboot after installing the .ida patch. I think I am infected, how can I tell? -------------------------------------- An infected system will show an increase in load (processor/network). It will also show a number of external connections (or attempts) to port 80 of random IP addresses. You can see this by doing a "netstat -an" from a MS-DOS prompt. Either way do not take any chances... if your system is missing the .ida patch then install it ASAP and reboot. How to setup your IDS to detect this specific worm? --------------------------------------------------- The following is part of the packet data that is sent for this .ida "Code Red" worm attack: GET /default.ida?NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNN%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3% u7801%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u0000%u00=a HTTP/1.0 Just add that to your IDS signature database. What are some common misconceptions about the "Code Red" worm? -------------------------------------------------------------- 1. It connects to worm.com. This worm only specifies www.worm.com in the initial HTTP GET request HOST: header and in the defaced page show on English (US) systems. This worm does _not_ connect to www.worm.com. This worm operates completely independent and can spread and infect systems without having a single point of failure. What that means is that this worm will be wild on the Internet until there is a _VERY_ high degree of systems that go and install the .ida patch. 2. This worm is based off of hsj's "proof of concept" .ida exploit. This worm is _NOT_ based off of hsj's "proof of concept" .ida exploit. His exploit code had no worm functionality. It was a simple exploit shell that had little to no implicit functionality. It was designed to prove to administrators the seriousness of this vulnerability so that they would install patches ASAP. Credits ======= Ken Eichman of Chemical Abstracts Service Matthew Asham of Left Coast Systems Corp and a large handful of administrators who gave us much needed data to piece this together. Signed, eEye Digital Security T.949.349.9062 F.949.349.9538 http://eEye.com/Retina - Network Security Scanner http://eEye.com/Iris - Network Traffic Analyzer http://eEye.com/SecureIIS - Stop known and unknown IIS vulnerabilities "Its not a virus! Its a worm!" - z3r0 c00l "Whats this one eat?" - l0rd n1k0n "th1s 0n3 34ts 11S s3rv3rs!" - ch4m3l30n h4ck3rs

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New IIS Exploit??
by Doctor Orbitz 19 Jul '01

19 Jul '01

Hey, I have recently been gettign a BUTTLOAD of hits on my web server that look like this: "GET /default.ida?NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u0000%u00=a HTTP/1.0" I've just recntly had a ton of requests liek that, is this a new exploit or what?? Orbitz

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Re: [Wlug] Permissions on a file
by ccb＠acm.org 19 Jul '01

19 Jul '01

> Check out the 'stat' command and 'stat -t'. Unfortunately it gives full modes in HEX! Some shell hackery: set -- $(ls -l foo) OCTMODE=$(echo "ibase=2;obase=8;$(echo $1 | tr -- '-drlwcxb' '0 1 1 1 ')" | bc) Season to taste. Tweak for hex to octal conversion. ccb -- Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com

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routing question
by Marc Hughes 19 Jul '01

19 Jul '01

Hey guys, I add a route like this: route add -net 10.1.0.0/24 gw 66.92.74.135 And it shows up fine in my routing tables... But if the other machine looses it's link to the 10.1.0.* address, my machine tries to route those addresses to it's default route. I think the gateway sends some kind of "It's not here anymore" packet? That's not a big deal since it just gets dropped at my default gateway, but when the link to the 10.1.0.* address comes back up, my machine doesn't ever re-try to get to it through the 66.92.74.135 gateway... Is there a way to force a route so it always goes through the gateway? Even after it does fail? Thanks, -Marc

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Permissions on a file
by Gary J. Hanley 19 Jul '01

19 Jul '01

Hello all, Does anyone know how I would go about listing the permissions of a file in octal format instead of symbolic? I need to pass that value to a script somehow, and although I could write a script to do that I didn't want to waste my time if there was already a command to do that. Thanks! -- Gary

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REMINDER: Meeting Wednesday, July 18th, 7 PM
by Andy Stewart 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

HI everybody, This is a reminder of the upcoming WLUG meeting to be held this Wednesday, July 18th, at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall at WPI in Worcester, MA. The topic for this meeting will be "Using Digital Cameras with Linux". Marc Hughes will do a presentation / demo with his digital camera. I will then do a quick demo of gimp-print to print the images which Marc takes with his camera. I'll be bringing my Epson Stylus Color Photo 870 printer to the meeting with some 4x6 photo paper. After the meeting, a bunch of us will probably go to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. See ya there! Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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USB hangs system - requires reboot
by Andy Stewart 16 Jul '01

16 Jul '01

HI gang, I just installed SuSE 7.2 Professional and upgraded to the 2.4.6 kernel (SMP). For the very first time, I'm attempting to enable the USB controller on my motherboard to talk to my Epson 870 printer (which has both parallel and USB interfaces). The onboard controller is an 82371AB. I looked and noticed the following kernel modules loaded: usbcore printer usb-uhci I think this is correct. I've enabled verbose debugging messages in the kernel. I looked at /var/log/messages, and it is detecting my printer. Also, I ran a program called usbview and saw the printer there as well. OK so far. I tried: cat some_file > /dev/usblp0 I get about 1 line of output and then my entire system hangs (it completely ignores any keyboard input, mouse movements don't cause cursor movement, and the machine is unaccessible from the network). I end up reaching for the reset button and waiting forever for my disks to fsck (yes, Tim K. I'm seriously considering Reiser fs). :-) I'm not sure I know how to go about debugging this...any suggestions? Oh, by the way, I did insure that there were no parallel port modules in place that might somehow interfere. Thanks in advance, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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What is shmfs?
by Andy Stewart 16 Jul '01

16 Jul '01

HI gang, After upgrading to a 2.4 kernel, I now see a mounted device thus: Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on shmfs 76220 0 76220 0% /dev/shm I can't find anything written that says what this is. I seem to be able to put files there. Any thoughts? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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Re: [Wlug] USB hangs system - requires reboot
by ccb＠acm.org 15 Jul '01

15 Jul '01

Hi Andy - Try the VALinux beta 2.4.5 kernel: ftp://ftp.valinux.com/pub/software/kernel/beta USB hasn't been a priority for VA but one of the usb-linux developers is inside the VA kernel group and tends to plug in a bunch of stuff with each of the kernels. Ain't tried it. Let me know what you think. ccb -- Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com

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Re: [Wlug] USB hangs system - requires reboot
by ccb＠acm.org 15 Jul '01

15 Jul '01

Hi Andy - Long time no see. 2 things: That kernel comes with EXT3 already integrated in the source. Once you have an ext3 kernel you can enable it by changing fstab. Disable it by changing fstab. The on-disk structure is the same. Start debugging by booting with the second CPU turned off. You could be locking on MP bug. Used to happen with me and my HP720 OfficeJet until they get their MP act together. ccb -- Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com

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Any complaints about Charter cable modems?
by Kingsbury, Michael 15 Jul '01

15 Jul '01

Just wondering if anybody here has had any problems/complaints about the Charter cable modem services? -mike

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Problem with network card
by Simoncini, Matthew 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

Hi guys, This message is not actually a Linux based question, but is still "nix". I have recently installed Solaris 8 (for Intel) on a PC at work and am having problems connecting to the network. I think that the problem is related to the speed that the NIC is trying to use when connected to the LAN. I suspect this because the little green speed indicator for 100mb is illuminated (on the NIC) when the workstation is connected to the network jack. Here are some supporting details that I hope someone might find useful: Hardware: HP Vectra Vli8DT (733mhz) Solaris 8 for Intel 3com Etherlink XL PCI NIC ifconfig -a elxl0 flags=100843<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,MULTICAST,IPv4> mtu 1500 index 2 inet 172.17.24.76 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 172.17.24.255 ether 0:1:3:68:1b:f3 netstat -rn Routing Table: Destination Gateway Flags Ref Use Interface -------------------- -------------------- ----- ----- ------ --------- 172.17.24.0 172.17.24.76 U 1 2 elxl0 224.0.0.0 172.17.24.76 U 1 0 elxl0 default 172.17.24.3 UG 1 0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 29 1897 lo0 If anyone can help or has similar experience, please give me a shout. I think I remember reading somewhere about a device driver file that can be changed to force the speed of the NIC. Anyone else ?? Thanks. Matthew

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Determining speed of device...
by Keller, Tim 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

Got a quick question... Other than looking in dmesg for what the driver reported the speed of the cable of the network device, does anybody know what utility or place in /proc that'll tell you what the speed of the cable connected to your machine is. Thanks, Tim.

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Re: [Wlug] Any complaints about Charter cable modems?
by Rob 09 Jul '01

09 Jul '01

Hi, I've had Charter for almost a year and have had no problems. Except my modem going last month.. that was the first real big problem. Like any ISP.. they have had a few outages here in Auburn, but they didn't last more than 2 hours. I had no problems getting my Linux (Mandrake)system working with it. Rob Mahlert --- "Kingsbury, Michael" <mkingsbury(a)avayactc.com> > wrote: >Just wondering if anybody here has had any problems/complaints about the >Charter cable modem services? > >-mike >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _____________________________________________________________ Are You in the Atari-Users.Net's Links Engine? ---> http://www.atari-users.net

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Re: [Wlug] linux on PDA
by Jeffry Smith 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

Also try www.handhelds.org. Compaq sponsors the site, and they do a lot of ipaq work. jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffry Smith Technical Sales Consultant Mission Critical Linux smith(a)missioncriticallinux.com phone:603.930.9739 fax:978.446.9470 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thought for today: Old Testament n. [C programmers] The first edition of K&R, the sacred text describing Classic C. skip gaede said: >Hi Wes, > >Have you tried the net? I have a friend how has one and has managed to >do it. >Going to altavista and searching on {+ipaq +linux} returned 21,897 hits... > >--Skip > >Wesley Allen wrote: > >> Anyone out there able to give me a hand installing linux on an iPaq? >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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linux on PDA
by Wesley Allen 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

Anyone out there able to give me a hand installing linux on an iPaq?

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Setting up cable modem (Charter)
by Thomas Carey 02 Jul '01

02 Jul '01

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Re: Re: [Wlug] Setting up cable modem (Charter)
by falken 01 Jul '01

01 Jul '01

I am new to the Mass. area, but I use to be a Sr. Network Admin with Charter Communications. The question that I have is are you using Charter@home or Charter Pipeline? If it is Charter@home then you have to make some different changes in your setup. You have to add some domain information. It took a while to finally Linux DHCP to with with Charter@home but we were able to figure it out. If it is Charter Pipeline I will be willing to find you some contact information with one othe the Sr. Network Admins that I know. Tom > rpm -q pump > > pump is Red Hat's DHCP client. If the above command shows > output, then it > is installed. > > Could you post the output of "/sbin/ifconfig -a"? > > On Sat, 30 Jun 2001, Thomas Carey wrote: > > tcarey> I apologize if I confused anyone. One nic is a > Intel Pro > tcarey> 100+. the other nic is a 3COM 3C905C. I alternated > nics to > tcarey> see if maybe one was not loading. Dumb question. > How do I > tcarey> know if pump is installed? Please be patient, I'm > fairly > tcarey> new to Linux (but have used it in the past as a > web and > tcarey> FTP server). > > Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / > http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ > PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 > Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB > 5886 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Setting up cable modem (Charter)
by Thomas Carey 30 Jun '01

30 Jun '01

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Re: [Wlug] Setting up cable modem (Charter)
by Peter Gutowski 30 Jun '01

30 Jun '01

On 6/30/01 3:34 PM, Thomas Carey <tcarey70(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >I know I have seen several posts in the past, but I need a little >information on setting up my cable modem through Charter. > >A little background information; > >Red Hat 7.1 installed. > >I have two nics installed, one static (192.168.1.1 internal scheme), >one DHCP (connected to the cable modem, the cable modem when installed >by Charter was assigned 192.168.100.1). > >On boot up eth1 fails (eth1 is fine on boot up). I know I am probably >missing some configuration somewhere. I know both nic's are working >fine. After the first failed boot up (on eth1) I switched the cards, >and the static nic was fine. I'm assuming you've made a minor typing mistake in the first sentence of the previous paragraph (otherwise very confusing) I'm assuming also that you're saying that the internal card boots OK and the card hooked to the cable modem is failing: - be sure the driver module for the cable modem eth card is loaded (e.g 'insmod 3c90x' or whatever for your card ) - be sure the 'pump' package in installed > >Any ideas? If any of the above doesn't help, please give more info re: type of cards, excerpts of log files showing error messages, etc. config files, (e.g./etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1) > >TIA > >Tom Carey >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ><http://explorer.msn.com> >_______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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rpm problem
by Marc Hughes 30 Jun '01

30 Jun '01

Having a problem with RPM... # rpm -qa |grep mozilla mozilla-0.9.1-ximian.4 nautilus-mozilla-1.0.3-ximian.3 mozilla-0.9.1-ximian.4 # rpm -e mozilla-0.9.1 error: "mozilla-0.9.1" specifies multiple packages # rpm -e mozilla-0.9.1-ximian.4 error: "mozilla-0.9.1-ximian.4" specifies multiple packages Any ideas on how I can actually remove those two identical packages that somehow got installed? (mozilla does not in fact work correctly) Thanks, -Marc

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Familiar Linux help...
by Wesley Allen 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Hello all. I am FINALLY getting an iPaq and want to flash the ROM to install familar linux (or QT embedded). I've been looking over the howtos but I think I would feel better to have someone who's done this sitting over my shoulder so I don't make a $600 paperweight. Also, can someone tell me what apps are in ipkg format for familiar, I've been having trouble finding them? What about the possibility of switching between QT embedded and X for other useful apps (like, game boy emulators, for instance, or even the Atari Lynx...). Can anyone help me with this? Wes

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RE: [Wlug] HP LH Pro...
by Keller, Tim 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Figured it out... Turned out that I could change the boot order on the machine, its working fine now. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 8:19 AM To: 'wlug(a)wlug.org' Subject: [Wlug] HP LH Pro... Probably a quick one, but neither google or I have sorted it out yet... I have a HP LH PRO with a AMI Megaraid controller in it. Connected to the controller are 2 4gig disks I've got configured to be mirrored using the hardware raid. (when doing the install you only see 1 4 gig disk) Now Mandrake 7.2 installs fine, and when using a boot floppy can see the controller etc... however when booting off of the controller, lilo comes up, it finds the kernel image and then stops at "unpacking the kernel..." I don't get any errors, it just hangs. I hooked up a regular scsi disk to one of the other Adaptec controllers but by the nature of the way the machine is layered out sda is the raid controller so the boot sector ends up on it anyway. My kernel works properly because it can access all the filesystems that reside on those disks, I just can't boot off of them. It feels like an issue with lilo... If anybody has experience with this I'd like to know what the solution would be. Thanks, Tim _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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HP LH Pro...
by Keller, Tim 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Probably a quick one, but neither google or I have sorted it out yet... I have a HP LH PRO with a AMI Megaraid controller in it. Connected to the controller are 2 4gig disks I've got configured to be mirrored using the hardware raid. (when doing the install you only see 1 4 gig disk) Now Mandrake 7.2 installs fine, and when using a boot floppy can see the controller etc... however when booting off of the controller, lilo comes up, it finds the kernel image and then stops at "unpacking the kernel..." I don't get any errors, it just hangs. I hooked up a regular scsi disk to one of the other Adaptec controllers but by the nature of the way the machine is layered out sda is the raid controller so the boot sector ends up on it anyway. My kernel works properly because it can access all the filesystems that reside on those disks, I just can't boot off of them. It feels like an issue with lilo... If anybody has experience with this I'd like to know what the solution would be. Thanks, Tim

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Multiple IPs on one NIC
by Bill Mills-Curran 28 Jun '01

28 Jun '01

I know it's possible to assign multiple IPs (at least for listening) to a single ethernet device. I _know_ I should read first and ask questions second, but I'm just _so_ lazy, and there hasn't been much traffic anyway. TIA, Bill

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RE: Battlebots
by Benjamin Zack 26 Jun '01

26 Jun '01

You can count me in. -Ben

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Connecting USB device
by Michael Long 26 Jun '01

26 Jun '01

I am running SuSE 7.0 and would like to use the USB version of SanDisk ImageMate for transfering pictures from my digital camera. When I try to mount the device I get the following: mount usbdevfs mount: usbdevfs already mounted or /proc/bus/usb busy mount: according to mtab, usbdevfs is already mounted on /proc/bus/usb I have tried to RTFM and found quite a bit of info but do not know how to pull it all together in such a way to mount my drive and get the pictures off of the CompactCard. Any hints on how to get this thing working would be a great help. Thanks, Mike

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Re: [Wlug] Battlebots / Mind Rover...
by Wesley Allen 26 Jun '01

26 Jun '01

Hmmm... Virtual mayhem. No blood. Manical machines? Sparks a-flying? Metal crunching? Death Match???? Count Me IN!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I name mine HAL? BTW: I'm (finally) moving out to Westborough area. The Cape Ann LUG is pretty in active and I can't wait to get more involved in the Discussions at WLUG, you guys seem to have a good time! Wes ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:31:22 -0400 >This is very off topic, but knowing that were all nerdy types I figure I'd >get some interesting feed back. > >Loki Games just released a Linux port of a game called "Mind Rover" Marc >Hughes and myself have been having a lot of fun recently having our robots >beat the crap out of each other. > >[quick mind rover synopsis] >you pick a chassis (hovercraft, wheeled, treaded), you put your weapons and >sensors all over the chassis, you then design the logic that drives the >whole contraption. Along with the robots there are different scenarios, >such as capture the flag and maze levels. > >I was wondering how many people would be interested in starting a "Mind >Rover" competition inside wlug. If it were more than 10 people, we could >get a bulk rate on Mind Rover. > >As for the actual mechanics of running the competitions, I'd like some >input. > >Thanks for having an open ear!!! > >Tim. >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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new machine questions
by mike 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

Howdy all - I'd like to replace my computer (P100) with something newer and significantly faster (but nothing bleeding edge; I'm looking for good-value speed). I'm thinking up to 1GHz (P3?). I want 16/24b color and since I've been out of it awhile I don't know anything about card makers anymore (like what's good, compatible, etc.) or if the std these days is on-board video. I've used Linux for years and want something that will allow me to get/use a scanner (first time; SCSI or USB? recommendations?) and CD-RW (recommendations). I have magazines and documents I want to scan and store on tape or CD. But what's most important is that I be able to generate some sort of index so that I can search the scanned documents (like keywords or text). What do I need for that? Can someone recommend hardware/software for this purpose? I haven't been a 'PC expert' for many years (and don't want to become one again :->) and am therefore no longer up on the latest PC technologies by way of mb, bus speeds, what's a value and what's a waste of money. Can anyone recommend hardware and someone local that sells build to order machines (no brand-names or CompUSA types)? Anything from Worcester to Shrewsbury to Marlboro to Acton to Natick, etc. Does anyone buy machines by mail and have anyone they'd recommend (or who to definitely avoid)? Thanks... Mike mhardy_mail(a)yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Help
by Breaux_Steve＠emc.com 22 Jun '01

22 Jun '01

I work at EMC and I installed REDHAT7.0 on a Dell GX150 and I can't get Applix office to install on it? what am I to do?

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Someone's hammering....
by Peter Gutowski 22 Jun '01

22 Jun '01

I recently installed logcheck on my RH 7.0 systems and have been comforted and possibly entertained by how well it works. However this morning I started getting lengthy messages indicating what appears to be somebody trying to break in via a buffer overrun. I get this... Security Violations =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jun 22 05:17:53 host SERVER[18075]: Dispatch_input: bad request line '..... followed by a lot of binary bytes ending in "/bin/sh" I've ad a couple "spurts" of this already today on two different systems; lasting about 2 minutes and then dissappearing. I'm guessing that whoever is trying this is [so far] being kept out, but I guess I'd like to know what is being hammered on as "SERVER" doesn't provide much help. Any ideas? -- Peter Gutowski <peter(a)linuxchamps.com> // tel.: (413) 587-3957 "When in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered." --George Washington, _Rules for Civility and Decent Behavior_

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Battlebots / Mind Rover...
by Keller, Tim 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

This is very off topic, but knowing that were all nerdy types I figure I'd get some interesting feed back. Loki Games just released a Linux port of a game called "Mind Rover" Marc Hughes and myself have been having a lot of fun recently having our robots beat the crap out of each other. [quick mind rover synopsis] you pick a chassis (hovercraft, wheeled, treaded), you put your weapons and sensors all over the chassis, you then design the logic that drives the whole contraption. Along with the robots there are different scenarios, such as capture the flag and maze levels. I was wondering how many people would be interested in starting a "Mind Rover" competition inside wlug. If it were more than 10 people, we could get a bulk rate on Mind Rover. As for the actual mechanics of running the competitions, I'd like some input. Thanks for having an open ear!!! Tim.

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backup programs
by Brad Noyes 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

Hi all, I have noticed the lack of sufficient backup programs for linux. A friend an i have decided to write our own. We have come up with a good list of goals we want to hit. Before we started seriously working on the design, i wanted to ask the group of features they would like to see in a backup systems. Thanks, --Brad

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Loki games for $9.99 or less
by Brian J. Conway 17 Jun '01

17 Jun '01

I came across this in a MandrakeForum.com article today. I figured that if anyone was interested in Quake III, Soldier of Fortune, or most of the other Loki games for $9.99 (or $4.99), then it's for you: http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categories/products/deptpage.asp?web_dept=PC+Gam… -b

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GNU utils on Solaris 8
by Brian J. Conway 15 Jun '01

15 Jun '01

Greetings. I'm once again picking up a project that I left off on now that Sun's site has updated the downloadble ISOs for Solaris 8 Intel to the 04/01 version. In the past I've gotten a decently customized install and had GCC and some other essentials loaded, but I can never seem to hunt down all the GNU utilities that I need. The one that comes to mind off the top of my head is 'ar', which is part of binutils, and I can't compile binutils as it needs 'ar'. I've scoured www.sunfreeware.com to no avail (though there is some great stuff on there that I always snag), nor is there a version on my system already. Any ideas? Brian J. Conway dogbert(a)clue4all.net Geek for hire: http://clue4all.net/resume Power Mac G4 Cube. Some of us are getting laid tonight. (http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20010509)

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vim errors
by Brad Noyes 14 Jun '01

14 Jun '01

Hi all, I'm having troubles with using vim over a telnet session. When i telnet into my machine and start up vim it sits there for while, until i hit ctl-c, then i get this error Error detected while processing /usr/local/share/vim/vimrc Interrupted Error detected while processing /net/fire/home/bnoyes/.vimrc: regular VI works fine. vim works if i ssh into the host. vim also works fine if i telnet into the machine from windows (using putty). but no luck if i telnet from a linux machines. (btw. The host is unixware, that's a problem in itself). Any ideas? Thanks, --Brad

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Fwd: FREE Open Source Database Seminar in Bostson, MA
by Andy Stewart 13 Jun '01

13 Jun '01

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: FREE Open Source Database Seminar in Bostson, MA Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:00:21 -0400 From: "Eric Hause" <info(a)greatbridge.com> To: <andystewart(a)mediaone.net> Dear Andy Stewart: Great Bridge invites you and the members of Worcester Linux Users Group to attend our FREE open source database seminar in Boston, MA: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "It's About Time...And Money: Introduction to Open Source Database Technologies for the Enterprise" Wednesday, June 27, 2001 The Four Seasons Boston Boston, MA +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Register online at http://www.greatbridge.com/gb?bos In today's economy, successful e-business requires high-performance database solutions that fit tightening IT budgets. Great Bridge delivers PostgreSQL for Linux and Solaris, an open source object-relational database that won the 2000 Linux Journal Editors' Choice award for best relational database system. By attending our free introductory seminar, you will learn: * How open source technologies can be deployed to create a cost-effective, high-performance platform for e-business. * How PostgreSQL can dramatically improve project ROI by lowering your database software investment. * How PostgreSQL's enterprise-class features compare to other leading databases, such as Oracle, IBM DB2, Microsoft SQL Server, Informix and more. * How Great Bridge services and solutions can help you quickly become productive with PostgreSQL and shorten development cycles. Please plan to join us for this free half-day seminar appropriate for IT managers, programmers, developers, and database professionals. To learn more or register, visit us online at http://www.greatbridge.com/gb?bos Regards, Eric Hause Great Bridge LLC PS: Please feel free to circulate this invitation to the members of Worcester Linux Users Group and visit us online at http://www.greatbridge.com/gb?bos to register today. __________________________________________________________________ This is a one-time notice only and will not be repeated. If you would like to be removed from our mailing list, please send an email with to remove(a)greatbridge.com. ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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Reminder: WLUG Meeting 14-june-2001
by Andy Stewart 11 Jun '01

11 Jun '01

Hi everybody, This is just a reminder of the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Thursday, June 14th at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall at WPI (aka the usual place). At this meeting, WLUG member Tim Keller will be giving a talk on Logical Volume Management (LVM). More details about this talk can be found on the WLUG website. Here are some websites which I've found that are related to Linux and/or LVM: http://www.sistina.com/lvm http://www.sistina.com/lvm/doc/LVM-HOWTO http://ibgwww.Colorado.EDU/~lessem/psyc5112/usail/peripherals/disks/logical/ After the meeting, we'll adjourn to the Boynton Restaurant and all are welcome to join us. See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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For sale: 19" sun monitor, 175 USD
by Keller, Tim 07 Jun '01

07 Jun '01

Hey Guys, Here's the skinny on it... Manufacturer: Sun Model: 365-1324 Max Resolution: 1280x1024 Sync Type: Composite H Freq/ V Freq: 88.1khz / 76hz Tube Manufacturer: Sony (Trinitron tube) Tube Size: 20" (19" viewable) Connector: 13W3 (however, they do make a 13W3 to 15pin vga adapter that works great) This is one of those sun monitors that has the little credit card remote in the front (which is still in there). The monitor is in mint condition and works fine. I'm asking 175 for it. Let me know if you want it. Thanks, Tim.

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ipaq
by Brad Noyes 07 Jun '01

07 Jun '01

Hi all, I recently bought an ipaq. I know there are are a few members of the wlug that have and ipaq with linux running. I have done some looking about on the net and i have found a hand full of options or a linux distro to put on the ipaq. I am curious to hear what the group's experience are with linux and the ipaq, and if you have any suggestions/warnings. Thanks --Brad

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dual PII/PIII motherboard of questionable origin up for grabs
by Brian J. Conway 06 Jun '01

06 Jun '01

The WPI Linux Association received a donation of a SuperMicro SUPER P6DBE dual PII/PIII 440BX motherboard (http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/MotherBoards/440BX/p6dbe.htm) The original owner upgraded because it was flaky and thought the parallel port was bad, but upon buying a new motherboard found that it was his fubared sound card causing flakiness, so I'm under the assumption that this motherboard should be good or at least workable, but of course there are NO GUARANTEES. As we currently have no use for it and I'd hate to see it go to waste, get back to me if you'd like it, but please only do so if you'll put it to good use, I'd hate to see something like this go to waste. I'll bring it to the next WLUG meeting to hand off. Brian J. Conway dogbert(a)clue4all.net Geek for hire: http://clue4all.net/resume Power Mac G4 Cube. Some of us are getting laid tonight. (http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20010509) P.S. I'm also told the screen at POST looks a little garbled, but that's due to the latest BIOS update and performance should be unaffected.

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routing table question
by Bill Mills-Curran 06 Jun '01

06 Jun '01

My routing table definitely looks wrong to me: > route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.1.0 millie.mills.cu 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 And, "route" hangs for a while before printing the last line. My network response is fine. Comments? TIA, Bill

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Handspring & Linux
by William Smith 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

All, I recently "upgraded" from a Palm IIIx to a Handspring Visor Deluxe (screen on the IIIx went South. 8( ). As you might be aware, the Handspring Visor comes with a USB cradle. Has anyone had any success in getting a Linux box to sync-up with a Visor through the USB port? Any ideas are welcome. Best regards, Bill Smith Fall River, MA

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Re: [Wlug] Handspring & Linux
by ccb＠acm.org 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

I use the Handspring Backup Module. It goes in the slot. It's $40. Push one button and you're backed up. ccb -- Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com

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ssh2 -> openssh
by Bill Mills-Curran 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

Tonight I tried (briefly) to convert to openssh from ssh2, and I ran into trouble. Maybe someone has an idea. The two machines in question are at RedHat 6.1 and RedHat 7.0. I built ssh2 (version 2.4.0) on each machine, and the install went smoothly on both sides. I have been happy with it. Then a friend suggested openssh. So I thought I'd try to convert. Since I could not find a ready-build openssl and openssh rpm for 6.1, I build openssh 2.9p1 and openssl 0l.6.6a. On my 7.0 box, I used the rpm's from the distro. I deinstalled the ssh2 code using "make install". I did not try to remove any other files, but I did stop all ssh2 processes. The install of the openssh code went just fine. I could log into my 7.0 box from my 6.1 box (I can't go the other way due to a company firewall), but the port mapping did not work. (I used the "-R 19999:box1:23" to give me access back through the company firewall.) I'm wondering if I'm running into basic code problems, or is it likely that the ssh2 installation needs some careful manual cleanup prior to decommission it. I'm back running ssh2, but I'd like to stick with open source, if possible. Suggestions? Thanks, Bill

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DVD RAM
by Andy Stewart 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

HI gang, I saw a note on SuSE's website advertising their upcoming release of version 7.2 In that press release, they boasted about supporting the new Panasonic DVD RAM drive (LF-D291), which supports writing 9.6 GB on a two sided medium. I know that reading a DVD is supported on recent (2.4.x) kernels, and also on some later 2.2.x kernels, and that patches exist for earlier 2.2.x kernels. (Data mode, like a giant CD...not DVD video). What I would like to know is: what is required of Linux to support writing a DVD RAM device. Do I need a program analogous to xcdroast? I have searched quite a bit and cannot find this tidbit of information. I am considering this for a backup solution first, a data DVD reader second (SuSE distributes their stuff on DVD), and DVD video lastly (www.linuxvideo.org) Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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RE: [Wlug] dual PII/PIII motherboard of questionable origin up fo r grabs
by Keller, Tim 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

That sounds like a raffle item to me! Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Brian J. Conway [mailto:dogbert@clue4all.net] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 3:29 PM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] dual PII/PIII motherboard of questionable origin up for grabs The WPI Linux Association received a donation of a SuperMicro SUPER P6DBE dual PII/PIII 440BX motherboard (http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/MotherBoards/440BX/p6dbe.htm) The original owner upgraded because it was flaky and thought the parallel port was bad, but upon buying a new motherboard found that it was his fubared sound card causing flakiness, so I'm under the assumption that this motherboard should be good or at least workable, but of course there are NO GUARANTEES. As we currently have no use for it and I'd hate to see it go to waste, get back to me if you'd like it, but please only do so if you'll put it to good use, I'd hate to see something like this go to waste. I'll bring it to the next WLUG meeting to hand off. Brian J. Conway dogbert(a)clue4all.net Geek for hire: http://clue4all.net/resume Power Mac G4 Cube. Some of us are getting laid tonight. (http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20010509) P.S. I'm also told the screen at POST looks a little garbled, but that's due to the latest BIOS update and performance should be unaffected. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Fwd: WLUG - Borland Kylix
by Andy Stewart 03 Jun '01

03 Jun '01

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: WLUG - Borland Kylix Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:53:15 -0400 From: "Al Reinhart" <reinhart(a)discom.com> To: <astewart(a)world.std.com> Andy, Thought some of the members in the user group might be interested in the following: Borland announces a 90-day limited time offer to purchase the Desktop edition of Borland® Kylix(TM), its award-winning Linux® application development and deployment product for $199. Timed with the launch of "Kylix-Compatible" Borland® Delphi(TM) 6, the promotion is designed to address the demand for Windows/Linux cross-platform application development and deployment... (http://www.borland.com/about/press/2001/kylix_promo.html) Al ------------------------------------------ Al Reinhart Phone: (508) 869-6417 DisCom Systems Fax: (508) 869-3420 www.DisCom.com ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Linux on a Dell laptop dual-boot W2K
by Simoncini, Matthew 01 Jun '01

01 Jun '01

Hey all, I was wondering if anyone has had any "good" experiences installing Linux and W2K on the same machine? I currently have the following hardware setup: Dell Inspiron 8000 Laptop Pentium III 700mhz w/256MB RAM Toshiba DVD-ROM Integrated Actiontec 10/100MB NIC \ 56K Modem Intel® 815e AGPSet Chipset with 4X AGP 10GB HD - currently 1 partition NTFS file system My thoughts were to install Caldera e-Desktop 2.4 which I have had some success with. What I'm not sure about is re-partitioning the HD to accommodate 2 Operating Systems. Caldera comes with a slim version of Partition Magic, but I haven't had the opportunity to use it on NTFS, so that is where any suggestions would help. Thanks for the time. Matthew

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Re: [Wlug] Linux on a Dell laptop dual-boot W2K
by Wesley Allen 01 Jun '01

01 Jun '01

---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Simoncini, Matthew" <simoncim(a)bsci.com> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:23:29 -0400 >Hey all, > >I was wondering if anyone has had any "good" experiences installing Linux >and W2K on the same machine? I currently have the following hardware setup: > >Dell Inspiron 8000 Laptop >Pentium III 700mhz w/256MB RAM >Toshiba DVD-ROM >Integrated Actiontec 10/100MB NIC \ 56K Modem >Intel® 815e AGPSet Chipset with 4X AGP >10GB HD - currently 1 partition NTFS file system > >My thoughts were to install Caldera e-Desktop 2.4 which I have had some >success with. What I'm not sure about is re-partitioning the HD to >accommodate 2 Operating Systems. Caldera comes with a slim version of >Partition Magic, but I haven't had the opportunity to use it on NTFS, so >that is where any suggestions would help. > I've got a Dell Inspiron 3800 that I dual boot between windows ME (don't laugh, I've kept it for DVD playback) and Mandrake. It works fine, though the modem doesn't work... Another response sugguested reformatting the disk, if you haven't customized it much, follow this advice, it saves a lot of grief later. I also believe that NTFS support is still labeled "experimental" and "read only" in the kernel setup, so you may want to use FAT32 anyway (too bad win2k doesn't run off of ResierFS, huh?). For partitioning, I use Mandrake, so I've got diskdrake; but since you've got Caldera you may want to download something called GNUPartD, it's another graphical partitioning tool, under GPL, that is a replacement of disk druid. I've not used it, but Suse uses it as it's partitioning tool and I've not read one complaint about it. Hope this helps. Wes >Thanks for the time. > >Matthew > > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Double Dial Out
by Bob Brown 01 Jun '01

01 Jun '01

I was wondering if anyone knows the fix to the double dial problem? Whenever I dial out from my RH 6.1 Linux box (using Linuxconf) the system dials, connects, hangs-up and display "The Command /sbin/ifup ppp0 is taking longer than expected to complete. Please take action" Then it automatically re-dials and successfully connects. I found this reported in several Usenet groups and archives since 1999 but I have not seen a resolution. Thanks, Bob Brown

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MegaMeeting
by Andy Stewart 01 Jun '01

01 Jun '01

HI gang, USDataCenters is holding a meeting in Marlboro, MA on Wednesday, June 6, 2001 for a number of Boston area computer user groups. Most of these groups are Windows related, but not all. I have signed up to represent WLUG. GNHLUG, BLU, and (I think) MWBLUG will also be in attendance. If you want more information, or perhaps you'd like to attend as well, check out this website: http://www.BostonUserGroups.com/MegaMeeting/Default.htm Preregistration is required so please sign up if you plan to attend. I tried to get a table just for WLUG, but they have run out of tables. The Boston Linux and Unix User Group was kind enough to allow us to share some space with them (many thanks to Jerry Feldman). I'll be seeking out the local Kinkos for printing up some flyers this weekend. If anybody does plan to go, please drop me an e-mail just to let me know. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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SCSI Tape Drive Question
by Marc Hughes 31 May '01

31 May '01

We have a kicking VA Linux 4450 server with a VXA-V17 tape drive in it. Unfortunatly the tape drive isn't seen by linux. It shows up in the scsi bios utilities. There is no mention of a tape drive in dmesg or /var/log/messages after bootup, and it doesn't work when you try something like "mt -f /dev/st0 status". The drive is on scsi channel B, does that make a difference? Is there some way to scan the scsi bus manually? I checked /proc/config.gz and tape drive support is built in. Any ideas, suggestions? -Marc

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Samba question
by Thomas Carey 30 May '01

30 May '01

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Win2k
by Michael P. Gorse 28 May '01

28 May '01

Hi all, I am getting a notebook with Win2k preinstalled, and I would like to repartition the drive and set aside a few hundred megs for a GNU/Linux installation. So I was wondering if Lilo would be able to boot Win2k? Also, how well is NTFS supported in the Linux kernel? Thanks in advance for any help! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | |DO what you think is right, not what society expects of you.| | --Michael Gorse / WPI cs '01 / ICQ:22583968 / http://www.wpi.edu/~mgorse/ --

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"Couldn't find ext2 superblock..."
by Dan Crooks 28 May '01

28 May '01

Using Darkstar Resque Disk to boot and look around a RH 6.2 installation. e2fsck -n /dev/hda1 results in Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks... e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda1 Here are the questions: Can I fix the superblock? Or is it re-install time? Duplicate blocks are reported in hda12 (/) when I boot RH 6.2. Is it possible to fix that? RH6.2 boot in rescue mode from CD says fdisk unable to open hda but it is recognized by Darkstar Resque Disk. Unfortunately Darkstar only has partitions defined to hda9 and does not recognize hda12. Is it possible to rename a partition (hda12) to another name (hda5) from outside? I have a second system, Windows based, which allows me access to the internet for downloads, email, etc. Is there a way to download utilities on the Win machine and then execute them from a floppy on the Linux machine either booted into rescue mode from RH or from Darkstar floppy? Thank you in advance for any assistance, guidance or direction. Dan Crooks

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***NEW*** WLUG website
by Andy Stewart 27 May '01

27 May '01

HI everybody, I am hoping that the transition to the new WLUG website was completely painless for you users. You will know that you are seeing the proper site if ***NEW*** appears near the top of the page. The DNS updates should have propagated around the Internet by now, so everybody should be seeing this. If somehow you are seeing the ***OLD*** site, please let me know and copy Chuck Anderson (cra(a)wpi.edu) also. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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XEmacs question - gnuserv/gnuclient
by Andy Stewart 24 May '01

24 May '01

HI gang, I'm running XEmacs 21.1.8 and am playing with gnuserv/gnuclient. Within XEmacs, I do M-x gnuserv-start (which seems OK). In a terminal window on the same machine, I type gnuclient and another XEmacs window pops up quite quickly (as I expect). However, I can't get this to work from another machine on my home network. I played with the xauth stuff and also tried setting the GNU_SECURE environment variable to no avail. Clearly I've done something wrong but I don't know what. Can somebody walk me through the steps? I'm expecting that if I run gnuserv on machine 'tux' that I can set the security so that I can access that gnuserv process from machine 'andypc' by typing the correct incantation of the gnuclient command on 'andypc'. Thanks in advance, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Hostname
by Michael Long 22 May '01

22 May '01

Thanks for the help with realaudio. Now it is working fine. My next question concerns how the hostname is published. When I look at the DHCP clients table provided by my router software the windoze boxes have published their hostname correctly but my linux box has published an incorrrect name. When I look at /etc/HOSTNAME the name is 'zeus' however then name that shows up in the clients table is '80'. What am I missing? thx, --mike

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Question about employment opportunities
by Pierce C. Barnard 22 May '01

22 May '01

Hi, I recently re-subscribed to the WLUG users newsletter. I would like to address the following question to all of the network administrators who are members of the WLUG: 1.) What is the best way to become a system administrator? 2.) What exact skills does an employer look for in a perspective client to be a system administrator? 3.) What advice and experience can you share with me? Thank you for your time.

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Re: Wlug digest, Vol 1 #64 - 2 msgs
by Jim Stith 21 May '01

21 May '01

compaq deskpro - the sequel; i have a viewsonic e771 monitor connected to the deskpro. i checked viewsonic's specs and found horizontal range 30-70khz vertical range 50-120hz both are what rh 70 installs and it does find the 771 although it is called e771-2 by rh. video card is a matrox mellinnium g200(generic) which is correct. i am using 16 bit 800x600. the pop sound is more like the monitor shutting off than any sort of safety device. the reason i want to install graphics is that i want to use webmin for configuration of samba apache etc. i am assuming that graphics has to be installed to use webmin. any other suggestions based on the info. above would be appreciated. thanks jim s. wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > > Message: 1 > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] compaq deskpro > From: Josh Huber <huber(a)alum.wpi.edu> > Date: 17 May 2001 15:00:50 -0400 > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Jim Stith <stith2(a)earthlink.net> writes: > > [snip] > > In addition to what other people are saying, I have to ask -- why > would you want to install X on a server? > > Save disk space, save memory, and keep things simple. If the console > works, just use it. :) > > -- > Josh Huber > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:30:32 -0400 > From: doug waud <douglas.waud(a)umassmed.edu> > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] compaq deskpro > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Hi > > > everything loads fine but when the system tries to go into x and give me > > a login screen, the monitor makes a poping sound and the screen goes > > blank. > > As several responses have indicated already, you are probably driving > the monitor at the wrong frequency. This can be very dangerous (you > can cook a monitor this way) but perhaps not in your case since that > "popping sound" is probably the monitor being new enough to cut itself > off when mistreated. > > In any case, what you have to do is find out the allowable hsync and > vsync > frequencies of the monitor. Since the computer is second hand (I assume) > you may not have the manual. In that case, look on the monitor for some > sort of manufacturer/model number and feed that into google. With luck > and a bit of poking around you should be able to find a spec sheet or > table and get the hsync and vsync frequencies (I found Compaq was not > too shabby when faced with the same issue with my daughter's computer > and a Linux install). Once you have those values, you can tell the > install program what to use (I don't use Red Hat, so I can't give you > chapter and verse here; XF86Config is more generic but a tad cryptic. > If you have to go the latter route, feel free to touch base with me > (probably directly to save traffic to the whole group) and we can, > if necessary, walk through the various steps in XF86Config. > > Incidentally, I vaguely remember that my daughter's Compaq (a Presario) > had a bastard video chip which confused SuSE 6.3 but which 7.0 was > able to deal with. I suspect your box is old enough that this will > not be a problem. > > Finally, Compaq is good about providing manuals. I went into google > and entered compaq deskpro and got to the Compaq site > > which, in turn, had a link to a downloadable pdf manual. > > I suspect you may have to be a bit more specific as to model of > compaq deskpro but you should be able to get the equivalent for > your particular box. Ditto for monitor. This way you can give > the install program hints as to both the video chip and the > sync frequencies. > > Hope this helps a little. > > > i have been going through the faq's and the only thing i have found out > > is that compaq did some strange things around the mbr. > > I don't think this is anywhere near the mbr. > > doug > > PS I agree with John Huber's point that X is unnecessary (and perhaps > even in the way) on a server. However, I can also understand why you > might > want to get X going simply because, like Mount Everest, it's there :-) > > -- > Douglas R Waud > 17 Lantern Lane, Shrewsbury, MA, 01545-2006 > http://www.ummed.edu/pub/d/drw/ >

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New WLUG website
by Andy Stewart 20 May '01

20 May '01

HI everybody, The WLUG website has been moved to a new location. I'd like to thank Rob Bellville for hosting the WLUG website for us for the last 3.5 years! Unfortunately, the ISP that Rob was using is "going away" so the site needed a new home. Chuck Anderson has volunteered to host the WLUG website on his machine - thanks, Chuck! I will still maintain my role to keep the site up to date with meeting announcements and such. The change should be totally transparent to all of you. You will continue to access the site via: http://www.wlug.org You will know if you are seeing the new site since it says "**NEW**" near the top. As the DNS change is propagated around the Internet, eventually you'll all see the new site. Don't freak out if you don't catch the new site immediately...they both have identical content. I won't remove the files from the old site just yet until we're sure that the transition has been completed successfully. If you have problems accessing the site, please let me know. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Partition
by colin＠localhost.localdomain 19 May '01

19 May '01

Thanks for the feedback. Resized the WinFAT32 partition successfully (lost no data). Linux partitions expanded (required reformatting that did wipe data.) System appears to remain stable. Colin

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RealPlayer and Linksys
by Michael Long 19 May '01

19 May '01

I have configured several boxes at home behind a Linksys router #BEFSR81. Both my windoze and linux boxes are able to connect through the router however Realaudio only connects through the router successfully on my windoze box. On the linux box I have installed it successfully but cannot get get it to connect through the router. What should I be looking at in order to solve this? I tried looking at preferences and tried Auto-Configure to no avail. Unfortunately I do not know what RTSP or PNA is or how to use it. Any help will be greatly appreciated. thx, mike

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Shifting partitions?
by gwlt＠ma.ultranet.com 19 May '01

19 May '01

A fast question: Anyone have experience with the stability of and general wisdom of shifting the Linux partition on a hard drive on a dual boot machine? I am trying to upgrade to a newer kernel and am presented with not enough memory on the Linux side of the drive. Encountered error message: <<An error occurred. Tour system has not enough space left for installation or upgrade (366821583>188726600)>> If the endeavor is too risky I can sacrifice the current Linux install, wipe the partition and install from scratch. (That does undermine the whole benefit of purchasing the proprietary upgrade package though.) Thanks. Colin

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compaq deskpro
by Jim Stith 18 May '01

18 May '01

well here goes... i got an old compaq deskpro (yes, a stupid mistake... but it was cheap) and wanted to load red hat 7.0 on it and possibly use the deskpro as a intranet server so that i could learn how to set a server up. everything loads fine but when the system tries to go into x and give me a login screen, the monitor makes a poping sound and the screen goes blank. same thing with mandrake and caldera. the screen stays blank. i have gone into the bios and disabled pnp and energy saver but that does not help. i have been going through the faq's and the only thing i have found out is that compaq did some strange things around the mbr. i have no other options open to me and would appreciate any help anyone can give concerning this. thanks jim s.

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newbie seeks help with kernel upgrade
by Dan Crooks 17 May '01

17 May '01

Hi, and thank you in advance for your patience. This deals with upgrading kernel In attempting to install vmware 2.0 in Red Hat 6.2, I was notified that I needed an upgrade to RH6.2 kernel. While trying to install the kernel upgrade with rpm I received error messages: 1) failed dependencies: rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0.1 is needed by kernel-2.2.19-6.2.1 2) mount < 2.10r conflicts with kernel-2.2... 3) nfs-utils < 0.3.1 conflicts with kernel-2.2... I understand that I can ignore the conflicts (2,3) by specifying --replacefiles in the rpm command. I decided to upgrade rpm assuming that rpmlib would be included. Using gnorpm I downloaded rpm 4.0-4 and received another error: only packages with major numbers <=3 are supported by this release of rpm. Presumably this message is issued by the currently version of rpm 3.0.4-0.48. This may be a red herring and not important as I continued. I used ncftp to download by specifying "mget rpm-*.rpm" and received four files rpm-4.0.2-6x.i386.rpm, also -build-, -devel-, -python- from RH site. When I tried to install rpm-4.0.2-6x I received an error: failed dependency libdb-3.1.so. Where can I find libdb? How could I determine that for myself if I run into another dependency? Do you have any suggestions/recommendations regarding updating kernel? I am using instructions retrieved from RH titled "Upgrading the Linus Kernel on Red Hat Linux systems" by Red Hat Support last updated 2000 May 17 -- Thank you, Dan Crooks

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sorry about that
by Dan Crooks 17 May '01

17 May '01

I put it on the WLUG WWWBoard, where it obviously belongs. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- Thank you, Dan Crooks

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REMINDER: Meeting Wednesday, May 16th, 7:00 PM
by Andy Stewart 14 May '01

14 May '01

Hi everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held in Kinnicutt Hall (a.k.a the usual place) at WPI at 7:00 PM on Wednesday, May 16h. The topic for discussion will be the practical use of IPCHAINS. What does that mean? This meeting, Doug Waud and I will present to you ways to use IPCHAINS to implement a firewall. This is not theory, this is practice...what to type, what it does, and why. This talk will build on the more detailed information presented by Bob Ziegler at our last meeting. Doug will start with a presentation of the simpler case of getting a firewall up which supports masquerading (that is, getting multiple machines on your home network to share one IP address, as you would for cable modem, for example), e-mail, and browsing. I will follow up with more detailed examples of IPCHAINS code from my own firewall script for allowing certain services through the firewall to the home network. Although firewalling is a complex topic, we're hoping to distill out of that complexity enough information so that a person can get started toward implementing a secure firewall. I'm looking forward to a good turnout at this meeting. Come on down! Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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RE: [Wlug] charter.net & ssh
by Keller, Tim 10 May '01

10 May '01

Bill, Try doing a traceroute on port 22 to your machine and see where along the line it get stopped. It's probably a default security thing they have setup, you could probably call up tech support and have them remove the blocks for specific ports... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Mills-Curran [mailto:bcurran@clariion.com] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:30 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] charter.net & ssh I got my new Charter cable modem and Linksys router set up recently, but I find that Charter seems to be blocking inbound access. I've the the sshd running, and I set the router to pass port 22 to my linux box. I can even connect if I ssh outbound to the router DHCP address, so it looks like my end of the configuration is correct. Anybody experience anything like this? Do you think that Charter will allow incoming requests to my system? TIA, Bill _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] charter.net & ssh
by Keller, Tim 10 May '01

10 May '01

Bill, I make it to the same point. Looks like the 10.254.1.2 is the gateway onto that segment of Ethernet, this would indicate that they do blocking at the router (at least to me and i'm not a network expert...) Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Mills-Curran [mailto:bcurran@clariion.com] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:09 PM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: RE: [Wlug] charter.net & ssh Tim, It never makes it. BTW, if you're looking to try this yourself, I've turned off the forwarding on my router. I probably should have left it on so that I could work with the Charter people. Bill traceroute to 24.240.184.215 (24.240.184.215), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 clar45sec (128.221.45.11) 0.870 ms 0.892 ms 0.829 ms 2 sobo-clariion-gw.us.dg.com (128.221.35.65) 1.238 ms 0.740 ms 0.829 ms 3 webo-atm-oc3.us.dg.com (128.221.35.61) 1.851 ms 1.232 ms 1.286 ms 4 128.221.22.60 (128.221.22.60) 1.408 ms 1.063 ms 1.791 ms 5 128.221.4.66 (128.221.4.66) 1.141 ms 1.629 ms 1.113 ms 6 128.221.23.23 (128.221.23.23) 1.917 ms 1.076 ms 1.113 ms 7 us-customs2.us.dg.com (128.221.131.14) 1.580 ms 1.613 ms 2.193 ms 8 uunet-gw.us.dg.com (128.221.122.1) 3.197 ms 2.035 ms 1.939 ms 9 500.Serial4-1-0.GW3.BOS1.ALTER.NET (157.130.222.33) 3.365 ms 3.313 ms 3.132 ms 10 196.ATM2-0.XR1.BOS1.ALTER.NET (152.63.25.122) 3.839 ms 3.410 ms 3.814 ms 11 191.ATM7-0.GW3.BOS1.ALTER.NET (146.188.177.209) 3.342 ms 3.221 ms 3.449 ms 12 hsa-noxford-t3.customer.alter.net (157.130.220.226) 5.158 ms 5.753 ms 5.425 ms 13 24-216-218-3.hsacorp.net (24.216.218.3) 5.489 ms 5.842 ms 6.198 ms 14 10.254.1.2 (10.254.1.2) 6.192 ms 9.664 ms 6.756 ms 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * 28 * * * 29 * * * 30 * * * On Thu, 10 May 2001, Keller, Tim wrote: > Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:30:26 -0400 > From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: "'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org'" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Subject: RE: [Wlug] charter.net & ssh > > Bill, > > Try doing a traceroute on port 22 to your machine and see where along the > line it get stopped. > > It's probably a default security thing they have setup, you could probably > call up tech support and have them remove the blocks for specific ports... > > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Mills-Curran [mailto:bcurran@clariion.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:30 AM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: [Wlug] charter.net & ssh > > > I got my new Charter cable modem and Linksys router set up recently, > but I find that Charter seems to be blocking inbound access. I've the > the sshd running, and I set the router to pass port 22 to my linux > box. I can even connect if I ssh outbound to the router DHCP address, > so it looks like my end of the configuration is correct. > > Anybody experience anything like this? Do you think that Charter will > allow incoming requests to my system? > > TIA, > Bill > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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charter.net & ssh
by Bill Mills-Curran 10 May '01

10 May '01

I got my new Charter cable modem and Linksys router set up recently, but I find that Charter seems to be blocking inbound access. I've the the sshd running, and I set the router to pass port 22 to my linux box. I can even connect if I ssh outbound to the router DHCP address, so it looks like my end of the configuration is correct. Anybody experience anything like this? Do you think that Charter will allow incoming requests to my system? TIA, Bill

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remote backup...
by Marc Hughes 10 May '01

10 May '01

Hey Guys, I have a dedicated web server that I need to backup (entirely). Unfortunately there's not enough room for me to make a tar archive on the machine, and there's no tape drive either in the machine or at that facility that we can efficiently use. We get charged for bandwidth usage, so I would like to compress the backup before it comes over the wire. Also, this is a one time deal, so I can't go spending massive amounts of cash on some commercial backup software. Any Suggestions? -Marc

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CDMA compatible phone and Linux...
by Keller, Tim 10 May '01

10 May '01

Hey Everybody, Has anybody ever had any luck getting a CDMA phone (Motorola StarTAC) to work with Linux? I went looking and found software that would let you alter the phone-book on the phone, but didn't do anything about dialing. I'm figuring its either a) shows up like a Hayes device (which would be wonderful) or b) it uses some totally undocumented proprietary protocol I'll be forced to reverse engineer... Tim.

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Hope this is the right list...
by rlapp＠WPI.EDU 07 May '01

07 May '01

Hey guys, I know there are two lists, one for questions and one for announcements, hope this is the right one. Here is the question, hopefully someone knows or can point me to a good resource. I have the following system: Athlon TB 750, 256meg, ABIT KT7 RAID 2x20gig Hard Drives on RAID 0 Striping - Win2k Server Installed. (hde&hdf) 1x13 gig HD With Linux Mandrake 8.0 Installed. (hda) 1x60 gig HD for data. (hdb) I would like to have LILO come up first and then give me the option of booting to the Windows RAID Drives. However, if I boot to my 13 gig drive from the BIOS, and have LILO come up I can not get it to boot to the windows partitition. I have put in the entries to lilo.conf to boot to (hde) But that didnt work, /sbin/lilo gives errors (dont have them in front of me now:( ) I also tried to point it towards hdf, but that gave errors saying no valid boot sector etc. Sooo now in order to boot both OSs I need to have the BIOS load the RAID array as the default, and use a floppy to boot to linux. I can only think that lilo is having a problem knowing what drive to point to to load up windows since it is a raid array... This make sense? Thanks! Bill Bill

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Local LDAP consultants?
by Rob Bellville 07 May '01

07 May '01

Anyone know of any local LDAP (OpenLDAP) consultants? -- Rob Rob Bellville Millbury Public Schools Millbury, MA 01527

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Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings - topic proposals
by Doug Chamberlin 07 May '01

07 May '01

At 5/7/2001 01:13 PM (Monday), Scott Venier wrote: >A VPN is a good idea. PPTP, however, isn't. I highly recomend using some >other VPN setup, if at all possible. PPTP on linux doesn't excatly give >you a rock solid network conneciton. But, if you have no other options, >there are both a client and a server for linux. The server is called >PoPToP. Search freshmeat for it. The client lives at >http://merced.needsabeating.com/pptp.html. A meeting which discussed non-PPTP VPN setups would be great!

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Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings - topic proposals
by Peter Gutowski 07 May '01

07 May '01

Well, so far it's not been a problem, although I keep a close watch on suspicious activity. (You'll notice entries for hosts allow and hosts deny. So far that seems to be pretty effective, although I do notice twits trying to access and being denied): hosts allow = 192.168.3.0/255.255.255.224 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0 128.119.216.0/255.255.255.0 216.175.212.192/255.255.255.240 hosts deny = all # <- no other machines can access Perhaps you could suggest conf options that allows [incoming] connections, but don't broadcast availability (i.e. is 'invicible' to all but people that know that that machine is a smb server). As I said, I'm not samba expert! (BTW, my wife accesses the system from her computer at UMass) On Monday, May 7, 2001 11:01 AM, Keller, Tim <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> wrote: >Hey I was looking at the sample smb.conf file (and I've set up a bunch of >samba servers as well) and I saw something odd (well odd for >me) > >-- start cut -- ># Configure Samba to use multiple interfaces ># If you have multiple network interfaces then you must list them ># here. See the man page for details. >interfaces = 192.168.3.1 24.91.122.146 >-- end cut -- > >>From a home network point of view, why would you want samba to bind to your >external (24.xx...) address? Maybe I'm doing something wrong? > >I personally add rules to my firewall to block outgoing and incoming SMB >traffic to the outside world. SMB as a protocol goes (if you could call it >that) tends to tell the world more then one would want... > >Tim. -- Peter Gutowski <peter(a)linuxchamps.com> // tel.: (413) 587-3957 "When in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered." --George Washington, _Rules for Civility and Decent Behavior_

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RE: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings - topic proposals
by Keller, Tim 07 May '01

07 May '01

Hey I was looking at the sample smb.conf file (and I've set up a bunch of samba servers as well) and I saw something odd (well odd for me) -- start cut -- # Configure Samba to use multiple interfaces # If you have multiple network interfaces then you must list them # here. See the man page for details. interfaces = 192.168.3.1 24.91.122.146 -- end cut --

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more lp0
by gwlt＠ma.ultranet.com 07 May '01

07 May '01

Andy, Thank you for the leads. I genuinely appreciate all of your time. I have been trying to chase the leads down. When I: ps ax | grep lpd I get: 419 ? S 0:00 lpd 906 pts/0 S 0:00 grep lpd It appears that I have the older file nomenclature of conf.modules and not modules.conf. It should work just the same though. Under modprobe -c I get a note: Note: /etc/conf.modules is more recent than /lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/modules.dep In the listing that follows I do have: alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc alias char-major-6 lp There is nothing for parport or lp under "options", Under "commands" I have: pre-install plip modprobe parport_pc ; echo 7 > /proc/parport/0/irq I have to be honest with you and say that I am not sure what that actually means for the system mounting of appropriate the modules or not. Does this mean anything particular to you? Anyone else familiar with the difficulty? Assistance is enormously appreciated. Colin

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Upcoming meetings - topic proposals
by Andy Stewart 07 May '01

07 May '01

HI everybody, For our next meeting, I would like to have somebody finish the thread from the last meeting or two by explaining the contents of their firewall script and why the series of ipchains commands works for them. This might be helpful to folks who are either considering implementing a firewall or who want to understand the canned script that they got from wherever. My idea for a subsequent meeting was to have a newbie meeting as we haven't had one in quite some time. One idea I had was to discuss a shell: a) bash - scripting, command line "tricks" perhaps go over a "real" script, such as a startup script in /etc/init.d/wherever... Another idea would be to discuss the use of digital cameras with Linux. Are there other topics people would like to see? Are there volunteers to take on these topics? Perhaps there is a topic more interesting to you? Thanks in advance for your input, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings - topic proposals
by Peter Gutowski 07 May '01

07 May '01

Tom, Your comments indicate a distinct need. For now, you might be interested in checking out my sample commented smb.conf file at: http://www.linuxchamps.com/docs/samba/smbconf.html I'm not a samba expert by any means, but have been enough around the block with it to make it work. HTH. On Monday, May 7, 2001 8:27 AM, Thomas Carey <tcarey70(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Andy, >The Firewall topic sounds great. First off, I am a newbie (been >toying around with Linux for the last year and a half off and >on), and want to increase my Linux knowledge. I have been >successful in setting up Linux as a web server, and as an FTP >server. The one thing I have been unable to get working is >Samba file and print services. I would love to have someone >show me the proper way to get this up and running. I am >currently using RH7 (for the server), and Win98SE for the >client machine. I would be willing to bring those machines, as >well as a small hub for us to work on. This is a feature of Linux that I really want to use. >Thanks for your time. > >Tom Carey > > -- Peter Gutowski <peter(a)linuxchamps.com> // tel.: (413) 587-3957 "When in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered." --George Washington, _Rules for Civility and Decent Behavior_

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Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings - topic proposals
by Thomas Carey 07 May '01

07 May '01

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Re: Fwd: Re: [Wlug] Lp0 issues
by Wesley Allen 05 May '01

05 May '01

Sorry, I though mandrake was mentioned earlier in the thread. It is mandrake 7.2 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Keith Wright <kwright(a)gis.net> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:17:32 -0400 >> From: "Wesley Allen" <wallen(a)mail.lexchristian.org> >> >> Go up to 7.2, > >Of what? Redhat? Too high a number, I think. > >I did my homework, looking through all old messages in this thread >and found only > >> I have been making myself at home in KDE 1.1.2 under Linux 2.2.15-4mdk > >but there's no Linux kernel 7.2, nor I think KDE. > >-- > -- Keith Wright <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com> > >Programmer in Chief, Free Computer Shop <http://www.free-comp-shop.com> > --- Food, Shelter, Source code. --- >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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lp0 continued
by gwlt＠ma.ultranet.com 04 May '01

04 May '01

Andy, Mike, Wesley, Jeff, et. al, thanks for helping me out on this. So here is where I stand, I have discovered a backlog of queued docs and deleted them, but I am getting Device or resource busy when I try to insmod the two missing pieces from lsmod. Here is what I tried: parport_probe and parport are present in lsmod; lp and parport_pc are missing /lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/misc/ lp.o and parport_pc.o are present when I go to... [root@localhost misc]# insmod parport_pc I get Using parport_pc.o /lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/misc/parport_pc.o: init_module: Device or resource busy and the same for lp.o Using lp.o /lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/misc/lp.o: init_module: Device or resource busy So I am missing elements in lsmod, and there is something holding me back from using insmod. Then I: lpq -P lp0 (and get) Waiting for lp0 to become ready (offline ?) Rank Owner Job Files 1st root 9 ... I try to clear this with lprm - -Plp0 dfA009localhost.localdomain dequeued cfA009localhost.localdomain dequeued The when I: lpq -P lp0 no entries I return to try to insmod lp and still get Using /lin/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/misc/lp.o /lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/misc/lp.o: init_module: Device or resource busy So what now? Thanks a lot for keeping me going on this. Colin

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Re: Fwd: Re: [Wlug] Lp0 issues
by Wesley Allen 04 May '01

04 May '01

Go up to 7.2, it's x-configuration has been painless for me on: An HP Pavillion 4450 A Compaq Deskpro 3 old Pentium NOTEBOOKS (All compaq) 1 Custom-built web server 1 HP NetServer (I forget the model) 1 Dell 4800 notebook As you can see, there is great x-support in 7.2, it was really mature, 8.0 is even nicer, but if you're on older hardware don't bother becasue you'll take a HUGE performance hit (KDE 2.1 and Nautilus are memory suckers, maybe with a lightweight window manager you'll be ok though..) Wes ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: gwlt(a)ma.ultranet.com Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 15:22:12 GMT >All right, > > Thank you for the assistance all. It has been helpful. > I took Andy & Jeff's lead to check the Kernel and sure enough there is >no such device. >Is my best bet to try to load a newer version? I am less afraid of this >prospect after fighting my way through X problems in 6.0 before going to >7.1. > Any words to the wise before embarking on this adventure? Up until now I >have used off the shelf disks to get the job done. How much more >treacherous is trying to grab stuff on-line? > >COLIN > >> Basic stuff: if you cannot cat a file to /dev/lp0, then you probably >have >> a kernel related problem. That will need to be fixed first. Jeff's >> earlier e-mail explains in brief how to do this. > >> Try something like this: > >> cat/.cshrc > /dev/lp0 > >> OK, once that works, you know that the kernel is OK. > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Cheap Servlet Hosting
by Sands Fish 04 May '01

04 May '01

Hey all, Just a quickie. Anyone know of any good hosting providers that support running servlets? Maybe something not too expensive, although that's not bloody likely. Thanx! -Sands

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FYI: Update on USENIX Conferences (68152)
by Andy Stewart 04 May '01

04 May '01

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Update on USENIX Conferences (68152) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 01:09:58 -0700 (PDT) From: enotify(a)usenix.org To: astewart(a)world.std.com The USENIX Annual Technical Conference June 25-30, 2001 in Boston, MA http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix01 REGISTER BY May 25, 2001, and SAVE up to $200! ================================================ Featuring THIRTY TUTORIALS, seventeen brand-new. Topics include: Running Web Servers Securely Advanced Solaris Administration Network Security Profiles UNIX Network Programming Network Programming with Perl Forensic Computer Investigations Large Heterogeneous Networks Inside the Linux Kernel Practical Wireless IP Security Exploring the Potential of LDAP Advanced Topics in Perl Programming Topics for System Administrators Wireless Networking Fundamentals UNIX Network Programming Topics Plus INVITED TALKS on WAP, IP wireless networking, Napster and Gnutella, E-voting in public elections, virtual machines, online privacy, active content, protocol design history and hazards, a Microsoft acquisition, and secure DNS. *KEYNOTE ADDRESS by Daniel D. Frye, Director, IBM Linux Technology Center *CLOSING SESSION by Cynthia Breazeal, Researcher, MIT Media Lab, and her robot Kismet. * FREENIX track dedicated to open source *VENDOR EXHIBITION featuring top companies, technology and information For more information and to register, visit: http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix01 -------------------------------------------------------- PAPER SUBMISSIONS DEADLINES: FAST: Conference on File and Storage Technologies January 28-29, 2002, in Monterey, CA. http://www.usenix.org/events/fast/ Please submit abstracts by July 13, 2001 ALS: 5th Annual Linux Showcase & Conference November 6-10, 2001, in Oakland, CA http://www.linuxshowcase.org Please submit abstracts by June 5, 2001. LISA: 15th Systems Administration Conference December 2-7, 2001, in San Diego, CA http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa2001 Please submit abstracts by June 5, 2001. ****************************************************************** If you do NOT want to receive email announcements about USENIX Association activities, please reply to this message, and you will not receive future email notices. ****************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Fwd: Re: [Wlug] Lp0 issues
by gwlt＠ma.ultranet.com 04 May '01

04 May '01

All right, Thank you for the assistance all. It has been helpful. I took Andy & Jeff's lead to check the Kernel and sure enough there is no such device. Is my best bet to try to load a newer version? I am less afraid of this prospect after fighting my way through X problems in 6.0 before going to 7.1. Any words to the wise before embarking on this adventure? Up until now I have used off the shelf disks to get the job done. How much more treacherous is trying to grab stuff on-line? COLIN > Basic stuff: if you cannot cat a file to /dev/lp0, then you probably have > a kernel related problem. That will need to be fixed first. Jeff's > earlier e-mail explains in brief how to do this. > Try something like this: > cat/.cshrc > /dev/lp0 > OK, once that works, you know that the kernel is OK.

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Lp0 issues
by gwlt＠ma.ultranet.com 02 May '01

02 May '01

I have been making myself at home in KDE 1.1.2 under Linux 2.2.15-4mdk and have managed to slowly get most functionality off of the old Windows half of the dual boot drive. There is one major impediment to moving over entirely: I cannot print. I have an Epson Stylus Color 660, and can not make it work, reconfigure and test as I try. If I am not mistaken the system is using a ghostwriter filter that generically addresses Epson Stylus Color printers (I have tried all sorts of earlier drivers and generic options within this.) When you go to the setup and configuration there is no auto detect of the printer and type, You must manually chose it, and when you try any form of a test print you get: "Waiting for lp0 to become ready (offline?)" If you try to test print from RHLinux Print System Manager ASCII directly you get: "Couldn't write file "dev/lp0": no such device" When I try to print from an app. I get: "lpr: lp: lp: unknown printer" If you can spare a few seconds I would be thoroughly grateful for your thoughts.

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RE: [Wlug] SCSI HD Boot Failure! BLA!
by Keller, Tim 30 Apr '01

30 Apr '01

That'll probably be really tough, since it won't even boot for the first time... What you could try is using a boot diskette to get the machine up and running, then compile a custom kernel that has support for the scsi card compiled in (not as a module) The kernel that the installer uses has -everything- compiled in so it'll work on a maximum number of systems, however, the kernel it installs on your machine does not. Hope that helps! Tim Keller -----Original Message----- From: Ben Dow [mailto:bdow@WPI.EDU] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 5:30 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] SCSI HD Boot Failure! BLA! Try compiling scsi support into your kernel, or using a different precompiled kernel if you're not into compiling your own. You probably had scsi support in the installation kernel but not the one it installs to boot from by default. On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Sands Fish wrote: > Hello again all, > I've just recently started putting together a Mandrake 8.0 box. (About > 3 hours ago, yes in the middle of the night.) For a hard drive, I have an > IBM SCSI Drive on an Adaptec 2940-U2 card. When I ran the install, it found > the card and the drive automagically. I was impressed and happy. Went > through the installation fine, copied all the files. But as soon as I > rebooted to run it for the first time, I get the LILO graphical screen, I > choose one of the options (any), and get the following error... > > request_module[block-major-8]: Root fs not mounted > VFS: Cannot open root device "801" or 08:01 > Please append a correct "root=" boot option > Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01 > > Just some more information. The HD is on SCSI ID #6. The controller is on > #7. The SCSI BIOS sees the drive because I can see it report it on boot. > When I watch the boot messages fly by for Linux, I see no reference to any > sd# devices at all. > > I'm really completely lost here. Would changing the SCSI ID # help? That > doesn't seem to be likely. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > Thanx a lot guys/grrls!! > > - - s a n d s - - > SandsFish(a)ArtKillsYuppieBabies.com > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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ipchains flush
by Richard Goodman 28 Apr '01

28 Apr '01

I'm running three dual-homed RedHat 7.0 boxes on separate DSL or cable, each doing IP Masquerading to private networks. I'm attempting to do some more serious firewalling, and am trying to debug problems in a rc.firewall script generated from Bob Ziegler's site. I've noticed that when I swap between Bob's 600+ line script and Rusty's Three-Line Guide to Masquerading (IPCHAINS How-To) , each modified to start with "ipchains -F" which should flush all existing rules, that the flush isn't happening. I'm switching by doing "sh <scriptname>" after having made both scripts executable. If I reboot Linux after changing which script is referenced in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, then everything is clean. Any ideas? Dick -- ------------------------------------------------- Richard Goodman dick(a)goodman1.net ---> Home: (508) 753-DICK trader(a)goodman1.net ---> Work: (508) 757-3452 voice/fax

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Ximian Gnome on Debian
by Orion 28 Apr '01

28 Apr '01

Just in case anyone here uses Debian and is thinking of installing Ximian1.4, the directions that say to apt-get install task-helix-gnome are wrong. I've gone and made some task packages based on what helix/ximian used to have for its previous release. Just add this to your sources.list and you can use them: deb http://zork.net/~orion potato main (or s/potato/unstable/ of you prefer) also, if you need a deb-src line for ximian, until they fix it (IF they fix it) you need to use this instead of what they say: deb-src http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian/ dists/potato/main/sources/ (again, s/potato/woody/ if you wish) -- Orion orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org "so did you eat the dog or walk it? ;)" - iain

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SCSI HD Boot Failure! BLA!
by Sands Fish 28 Apr '01

28 Apr '01

Hello again all, I've just recently started putting together a Mandrake 8.0 box. (About 3 hours ago, yes in the middle of the night.) For a hard drive, I have an IBM SCSI Drive on an Adaptec 2940-U2 card. When I ran the install, it found the card and the drive automagically. I was impressed and happy. Went through the installation fine, copied all the files. But as soon as I rebooted to run it for the first time, I get the LILO graphical screen, I choose one of the options (any), and get the following error... request_module[block-major-8]: Root fs not mounted VFS: Cannot open root device "801" or 08:01 Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01 Just some more information. The HD is on SCSI ID #6. The controller is on #7. The SCSI BIOS sees the drive because I can see it report it on boot. When I watch the boot messages fly by for Linux, I see no reference to any sd# devices at all. I'm really completely lost here. Would changing the SCSI ID # help? That doesn't seem to be likely. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanx a lot guys/grrls!! - - s a n d s - - SandsFish(a)ArtKillsYuppieBabies.com

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Tribes 2 and SMAC?
by Wesley T Allen 26 Apr '01

26 Apr '01

I got a posting in the mailing list about getting the LUG rate for Tribes 2 and SMAC, I am VERY interested in this; but I've not heard anything since the origional message went out. Are people still thinking about this?? On an unrelated note, Loki's online store is down and Tribes 2 is shipping NOW. I hope this a good sign that they're getting so many orders that it crashed their site. Being forward thinking, they have a fax number posted for an alternate ordering method. Way to go Loki! Wes

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TCP Port Open
by Marc Hughes 24 Apr '01

24 Apr '01

Hello, How can you determine what process has a tcp port open? Thanks! -Marc

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kde problem
by doug waud 24 Apr '01

24 Apr '01

Hi all I have a Toshiba Satellite notebook running SuSE 7.0 (personal edition) with kde as the window manager. For reasons unknown (to me at least) I can no longer click on an icon, for example, the shell icon, on the Kpanel and get a response. Also, the icons on the desktop, netscape and soffice, for example, have disappeared. Finally, if I click on the K menu button I can navigate out to the various programs, but again nothing responds. I can however, hit Alt/F2, get a command window, type in netscape, xterm or soffice, and the respective application comes up! I have searched the web and found no hints as to what might be going on. I happen to have the Que "Practical KDE" by Dennis Powell where, on page 46, under "Troubleshooting" there is a section "KDE starts but Applications won't". He suggests a chmod 1777 /tmp which I tried (and got drwxrwxrwt which says I didn't hit a typo) but the problem remained. I also tried chmod -RV 1777 /tmp to recursively chmod (I found several subdirectories in /tmp) but again without success. :-( The KDE version is 1.1.2 according to the SuSE box. The kernel is 2.2.12 (but, that, I suspect, is irrelevant). So, my specific question is "has anyone out there seen this and/or knows the solution/fix?". If not, a broader question is "what would you try next?" (without blowing away everything and reinstalling linux :-) --- this same SuSE/KDE works fine on a Dell desktop box). As you might gather, I have reached the point where I am open to suggestions of any kind :-) doug

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RE: [Wlug] VAX/VMS
by Evans, Robert 23 Apr '01

23 Apr '01

At this link you can get it from the source: http://www.openvms.compaq.com/ Then try going to OpenVMS Documentation where you can find: OpenVMS Guide to System Security -Robert N. Evans Software Engineering Stratus Computer -----Original Message----- >>Hey, >> >> I was wondering if any of you knew reliable and accurate sites on >>VAX/VMS especially things that deal with networking and security. I need to >>right a technical paper on those. And I'm at a lost of reliable sources

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VAX/VMS
by Geoff 23 Apr '01

23 Apr '01

Hey, I was wondering if any of you knew reliable and accurate sites on VAX/VMS especially things that deal with networking and security. I need to right a technical paper on those. And I'm at a lost of reliable sources since google is me 9,000 plus sites and at the ones I've looked at none of them are what I am looking for. Geoffrey Phillips +01-508-795-6841 geoff_phillips(a)acm.org (Professional) gphillips(a)clarkie.net (Professional) resume at: http://www.clarkie.net/

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In regards to the 50% discount for lugs...
by Keller, Tim 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

Would nine other people be interested in buying a copy of Tribes 2? I might just accidentally setup a tribes server out in our DMZ :-) Tim.

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Cable modem/lilo
by William Hine 19 Apr '01

19 Apr '01

The version of SUSE linux I was running seemed to give me a problem with DHCP. Ive yet to figure out what it is, and cable modems should be simple to setup. Anyways I installed mandrake 8.0 beta 3. The installation utility is great. I booted in the system for the first time and was able to use my modem. Thanx for the reccomendation. I was wondering if anyone can help me with lilo. When I boot my machine it only displays LI. I seem to remember this having to do something with the drive geometry. Any Ideas? I also installed grub which when I boot just displays GRUB. What could be wrong? TIA Bill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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Need input re: developers tools
by Andy Stewart 19 Apr '01

19 Apr '01

HI gang, I am starting to write up the last 1/3 of my presentation to the Delphi Developers group, and its the section on developer tools and utilities. I'd like some input from you folks as to what I should include in this section. Emacs - the original "IDE" (???) gdb for debugging (nicer with DDD front end, IMHO) make and Makefiles gcc What else do "real" Linux developers use? Maybe I'm suffering a brain cramp this evening, but your input will help. Also, are there any tools or compilers for Pascal? Remember, the Delphi folks understand Pascal, and I'm sure they will ask this question. (It has been 20 years since I programmed anything in Pascal...). Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | Osborn's Law: Variables won't; constants Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | aren't. Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | http://www.wlug.org |

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[Fwd: Your 4/19 LUG meeting]
by Andy Stewart 19 Apr '01

19 Apr '01

HI gang, Would somebody who attends the WLUG meeting on Thursday be willing to write up something which can be posted on LWN, LinuxToday, and LinuxUsersGroups.org? Kara has asked, and I told her that we'd come up with something. Thanks in advance, Andy -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Your 4/19 LUG meeting Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:24:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Kara Pritchard <kara(a)luci.org> To: <andystewart(a)mediaone.net> Hi Andy, Looks like you have a fun evening planned for your next LUG meeting. I'd be interested if you (or someone in your group) would do a write-up about the special meeting, or perhaps an interview. I'll host it at LinuxUsersGroups.org and have it posted to LWN and LinuxToday. It'll be a good opportunity both for your group and for Ziegler's book. -- Kara Pritchard Phone: 618-398-7360 Author, RHCE Exam Cram Director of Exam Development http://www.lpi.org/ Site Manager http://www.LinuxUsersGroups.org/ --

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Re: [Wlug] max memory?
by ccb＠acm.org 18 Apr '01

18 Apr '01

> > Is linux limited to 4GB memory? > > Nope, not 2.4 anyways. I don't remember the limit, but it's a big > number. ;-) > > > I have inherited some boxes with 5GB each and I'm planning on loading linux. Some things to remember - if these are x86 architecture boxes, you still have a 3GB per process user space limit. Even with 64GB of RAM, no single process can see more than 4GB and the top 1GB of that is mapped as kernel space. Big memory means that you get to have lots of large virtual address spaces that can remain mapped in physical RAM. For virtual address spaces with wider than 32-bit addresses, you need 64-bit processors. ccb -- Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com

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Red Hat Linux 7.1
by Charles R. Anderson 17 Apr '01

17 Apr '01

Red Hat 7.1, based on the Linux 2.4 kernel, is out as of 10:00am this morning. I have a mirror of i386 disc1 and disc2 ISO's and the full FTP install tree if anyone wants it. FTP install/upgrade boot image: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.1/en/os/i386/images/boot… Server: angus.ind.wpi.edu Directory: /pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.1/en/os/i386 ISO download: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.1/en/iso/i386 Have fun! Charles R. Anderson cra(a)wpi.edu Network Engineer (508) 831-6110 Computing and Communications Center (508) 831-5115 Worcester Polytechnic Institute Fax (508) 831-5483

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Re: [Wlug] Need input re: developers tools
by Doug Chamberlin 17 Apr '01

17 Apr '01

At 4/16/2001 11:50 AM (Monday), Scott Venier wrote: >You might also want to mention codewarrior. http://www.metrowerks.com >Nice and pretty for those folks who grew up developing on macos or >windows. You might keep in mind that the Delphi Developers Group is made up of developers who are 99% likely to use Kylix for development. Therefore, they won't be much interested in alternative development environments. However, they WILL be interested in auxiliary tools which are considered essential to managing applications on Linux not matter what the original language the app is written in. I would put the rpm and other packaging/installing tools in this category. P.S. I think Kylix includes a debugger. If it is as good as the one Borland has for the Win32 platform then it is all these developers will be using.

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max memory?
by Bill Mills-Curran 16 Apr '01

16 Apr '01

Is linux limited to 4GB memory? I have inherited some boxes with 5GB each and I'm planning on loading linux. Thanks, Bill

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RE: [Wlug] max memory?
by Keller, Tim 16 Apr '01

16 Apr '01

Nope, the new kernel will work with 64gb, you just have to go under "Processor type and features" and change the settings for High Memory Support. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Mills-Curran [mailto:bcurran@clariion.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 11:54 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] max memory? Is linux limited to 4GB memory? I have inherited some boxes with 5GB each and I'm planning on loading linux. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Is WMF a proprietary format?
by Andy Stewart 16 Apr '01

16 Apr '01

If not, are there tools to convert it into something viewable on a Linux box? There are viewers available for Solaris, but not Linux. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | "Why is it that we rejoice at a birth and Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | grieve at a funeral? It is because we Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | are not the person involved" -- Mark http://www.wlug.org | Twain

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Re: Verizon DSL questions
by cc.noyes 14 Apr '01

14 Apr '01

LRP 3.1.0. You need to browse the various kernel images at www.linuxrouter.org to find the one that most closely matches your environment. You'll probably want an image that has a pppoe (if you're using Verizon DSL), ipchains, DHCP, caching DNS, etc. You can download it along with the modules for your ethernet cards. Since this is a router, you'll need at least 2 ethernet cards; one for the "WAN" side (DSL connection) and one for your local (LAN) network. I use my LRP box as a gateway/router and a firewall (running ipchains). My Verizon DSL "modem" is connected to the LRP box via one of the ethernet cards and the other ethernet card in the LRP box is connected to a hub in my house. All of the PCs in the house are also connected to the hub. I configured a private class C ethernet network in my house and all the PC's have a 192.168.x.y address, including the LAN interface of the LRP box. The WAN side gets it IP address from Verizon via DHCP. These addresses get "spoofed" via IPMASQ to the outside world. The whole set-up works great. You can get other modules to load from the floppy, but remember everything has to fit on a floppy. One neat trick is the ability to format a floppy to hold more than 1.4 MB. I don't recall if it's the fdformat command or something else (I'm sure someone on this list can supply the details.....it's been a while, and I don't remember), but you can format a floppy so it will hold 1.6 MB (maybe more) and Linux has no trouble booting from it. The neat thing is that you can use an old "clunker" PC that you may have lying around for the LRP box. You don't even need a hard drive, and it's recommended that you DON'T use a hard drive (secruity reasons...remember this box is exposed to the outside world). I don't even have a monitor or keyboard connected to the LRP box. It just runs and runs and runs.... Step through the LRP configuration, write-protect the floppy, and you're in business.... I hope this helps..... -Chuck Randall Hofland wrote: > That was more like a whole nickel. Which version of LRP? Are you running just the > router or do you have some of the other goodies like the firewall, etc.? And the big > question: is it possible to run multiple floppies to add services? > > I've actually been planning on using OpenBSD either on one of my 68K Macs or on a > Pentium/K6 box for my front end, but if I can get the LRP to work with a couple of > floppies, that would do as well. But I am still waiting for any version of "broadband" > so I can hook up my various clusters to the web. > > "cc.noyes" wrote: > > > I've had Verizon's ADSL service (the "cheapo" $39.95 service) since December and > > it's been solid. I have no complaints. I use an old PC running LRP (Linux Router > > Project, see www.linuxrouter.org) The LRP boots from a single floppy (I removed > > the hard drive). The LRP uses Ragin Penguin's pppoe. It's simple to install and > > set up. > > > > Verizon has NO clue about anything other than Win98. So they were no help to me. > > I installed their h/w and my own LRP box, but it was no big deal. I've never had > > to call fo support, so I don't know how good they are, but...they only want to deal > > with systems runing Win98. > > > > Just my $.02..... > > > > -Chuck > > > > Mark Caron wrote: > > > > > I'm considering DSL for myself at home. I've already checked out the Verizon > > > site and I am about 6,000 ft or so away from the c.o., so I'm ok on that front. > > > I am wondering if there's anything new regarding Verizon DSL in regards to > > > Linux. How Linux friendly are they these days? I know from reading their > > > website that I'm probably on my own for supporting linux on their DSL, but > > > that's ok I figured that. Any problems or other considerations I should be > > > looking into? Besides buying a DSL/cable modem router, that's already on the > > > 'to buy' list. I know it's about a 3 week wait I believe for the setup date. > > > Also a friend of mine in NYC just got hers 2 weeks ago, and had to go through a > > > setup program on her windows box. Is this just setting up pppoe? Or does it > > > also setup the DSL modem? Am I correct in thinking that it's just the pppoe and > > > I can just setup my linux box with pppoe and setup the DSL router and be done > > > with it. Or should I just plug in my win95 harddrive and let the setup program > > > setup the DSL modem then fire up linux and finish setting up linux and the DSL > > > router? > > > > > > Thanks for any advice. > > > > > > Mark > > > - > > > Subcription/unsubscription/info requests: send e-mail with > > > "subscribe", "unsubscribe", or "info" on the first line of the > > > message body to discuss-request(a)blu.org (Subject line is ignored). > > > > - > > Subcription/unsubscription/info requests: send e-mail with > > "subscribe", "unsubscribe", or "info" on the first line of the > > message body to discuss-request(a)blu.org (Subject line is ignored).

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REMINDER: Upcoming Linux events
by Andy Stewart 13 Apr '01

13 Apr '01

HI everybody, Here's a quick reminder about upcoming events. ================================== Wednesday, April 18th: Richard Stallman will be speaking at Holy Cross in Worcester Location: 112 O'Neill Hall Time: 3:30 PM - 5:30 PM Here's a map of the campus: http://www.holycross.edu/about/camp_mapbw.html ================================== Thursday, April 19th: WLUG meeting Location: Kinnicutt Hall, WPI in Worcester Time: 7:00 PM Speaker: Bob Ziegler, Linux Firewalls ================================== Monday, April 23rd: Delphi Developers' Group Meeting Location: Allaire Corporation, Newton, MA Time: starts at 7:00 PM (be there earlier to setup) Directions to this meeting can be found here: http://www.discom.com/delphi/ I will be giving a presentation to this group (details can be found at the "Meetings" link on the Delphi website). A group of WLUG volunteers will be on hand to demonstrate Linux software. One person who had volunteered to help at the Delphi Developers group has had to drop out, so I am looking for 1 or perhaps 2 more volunteers who'd like to come to this meeting to help out with demos of Linux on their own hardware. Please get back to me ASAP. Thanks! ================================== Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | "I have the world's largest collection of Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | seashells. I keep it scattered around Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | the beaches of the world ... Perhaps http://www.wlug.org | you've seen it. -- Steven Wright

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Cable Modem Charter.net
by William Hine 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

Hi, I was wondering if someone can help me configure a cale modem to use in linux. I am on charters network. I have tried myself but it is not working. I setup my ethernet card eth0 this seems to have taken because I can ping localhost. However I cannot ping past it. TIA, Bill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Lexmark z52
by Doctor Orbitz 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

Has anyone here setup a Lexmark z52 printer in linux? I am having alot of trouble. I set it up according to how I think the documentation tells me to but my printer just gets a post script file, which it obviously doesn't understand. Tech support refuses to help me saying that because I am using Slackware it isn't supported. But Linux is Linux right? Thanks, Orbitz

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Mainsoft's MainWin Brings Windows Apps To Linux, Unix
by Bob Brown 10 Apr '01

10 Apr '01

A cross platform compiler for Linux from Windows... http://www.crn.com/components/Nl/direct/article.asp?ArticleID=25599 Regards, Bob

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RE: [Wlug] Firewalls
by Dibb, Jim 09 Apr '01

09 Apr '01

Upgrade to 1.38.4 firmware, I've found it to work the best. It's beta firmware, I got it from the Linksys forum on dslreports.com. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark%2c651534%3broot=equip%2c16%3bmode=fla t That forum is an excellent resource for the Linksys hardware. I've never used it, but I'm sure there is a way to set up logging by the router to a file on one of your machines. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Long [mailto:michaellong@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 12:14 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Firewalls Your suggestion of an appliance was a magnificent one. I bought a Linksys router and had it running in a very short period of time. Now for the $64 question...how do I monitor my network to minimize the chance of attack or at least know when my system has been compromised? -mike On Wednesday 04 April 2001 00:09, you wrote: > > After spending many hours this past week trying to understand ipchains > > and firewalling in general I have come to the conclusion that I am > > spending a lot of time trying to recreate something that probably already > > exists. Does anyone have any experience with either open source or > > commercial firewalling products that can be configured to work in a small > > office network and allow VPN connections to larger networks. I do not > > have a very big budget but would be willing to pay for the appropriate > > solution. > > > > Mike > > Might I suggest an appliance? D-Link, SMC, NetGear and LinkSys all > have them for just a hair over $100 provided you're sitting on a Cable > or DSL connection. My SMC is web managable and does a lovely job. > It also has a COM port so I can use it with dial-up networks if I > have to. IPCHAINS/IPTABLES is cool, but you need to patch for IPSEC > support in 2.2.x kernels. > > ccb > > > -- > Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems > Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 > +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 > ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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just a bit-o-fun
by Terry Yelmene 08 Apr '01

08 Apr '01

A year ago last Thursday I was strolling in the zoo When I met a man Who thought he knew the lot. He was laying down the law About the habits of baboons And the number of quills a porcupine has got So I asked him "what's that creature there?" He answered, "Ooh, It's a h'elk" I might have gone on thinking that was true If the animal in question hadn't Put that chap to shame and said "I hain't a h'elk" I'm a Gnu I'm a Gnu I'm a Gnu How do you do? You really ought to k-now w-who's who I'm a Gnu Spelled G-N-U I'm g-not a camel or a kangaroo So let me introduce I'm g-neither man or moose Oh G-no, G-no, G-no I'm a Gnu I had taken furnished lodgings down at Rustington-on-Sea Whence I travelled on to Ashton-under-Lyme And the second night I stayed there I was wakened from a dream Which I'll tell you all about some other time. Among the hunting trophies on the wall above my head Stuffed and mounted was a face I thought I knew; A bison, no it's not a bison An okapi, I don't think it's an okapi Could it be a hartebeest? When I seemed to hear a voice I'm a Gnu I'm a Gnu A g-nother Gnu I wish I could g-nash my teeth at you I'm a Gnu How do you do? You really ought to k-now w-who's who I'm a Gnu Spelled G-N-U Call me bison or okapi and I'll sue G-nor am I in the least like that dreadful hartebeest Oh G-No G-No G-No I'm a Gnu! **************** The source for this definitely wants to remain anonymous- but... I had to share it with you cause, now I@m a Gnu Too! ...(just between us Gnus & Penguins)

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Re: [Wlug] Firewalls
by ccb＠acm.org 08 Apr '01

08 Apr '01

> After spending many hours this past week trying to understand ipchains and > firewalling in general I have come to the conclusion that I am spending a lot > of time trying to recreate something that probably already exists. Does > anyone have any experience with either open source or commercial firewalling > products that can be configured to work in a small office network and allow > VPN connections to larger networks. I do not have a very big budget but would > be willing to pay for the appropriate solution. > > Mike Might I suggest an appliance? D-Link, SMC, NetGear and LinkSys all have them for just a hair over $100 provided you're sitting on a Cable or DSL connection. My SMC is web managable and does a lovely job. It also has a COM port so I can use it with dial-up networks if I have to. IPCHAINS/IPTABLES is cool, but you need to patch for IPSEC support in 2.2.x kernels. ccb -- Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com

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[Fwd: LOCAL: Worcester (MA, USA) Linux Users' Group meeting]
by Andy Stewart 08 Apr '01

08 Apr '01

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: LOCAL: Worcester (MA, USA) Linux Users' Group meeting Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:27:40 GMT From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)mediaone.net> Organization: Worcester Linux Users' Group Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce Followup-To: comp.os.linux.misc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- HI everyone, The next meeting of the Worcester (MA, USA) Linux Users' Group will take place on Thursday, April 19th, at 7:00 PM. The meeting location is at WPI's Kinnicutt Hall in Worcester, MA. Directions can be found on the WLUG website: http://www.wlug.org The speaker at this meeting will be Bob Ziegler. Bob is the author of "Linux Firewalls", published by New Riders. Bob will address firewall related topics including: o What is contained in the IP, TCP, and UDP packet headers o A description of classic attacks o Basic things to be filtered The goal will be that someone should leave the meeting with an understanding of what a firewall can do and why you want one. More meeting information can be found on the WLUG website. This promises to be a really informative meeting! As always, WLUG meetings are open to the public. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity for Q/A, and then a couple of Linux related items will be raffled. Small donations of $2 - $5 are happily accepted (but not required) to help defray the cost of the refreshments at the meeting. After the meeting, you are welcome to join us at the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. I'm looking forward to seeing alot of people at this meeting. See ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | "I was playing poker the other night ... Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | with Tarot cards. I got a full house and Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | four people died." -- Steven Wright http://www.wlug.org | - -- This article has been digitally signed by the moderator, using PGP. http://www.iki.fi/mjr/cola-public-key.asc has PGP key for validating signature. Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce(a)news.ornl.gov PLEASE remember a short description of the software and the LOCATION. This group is archived at http://www.iki.fi/mjr/linux/cola.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBOs4mvFrUI/eHXJZ5AQEhyQQAvvbtDWXY5iW6/m4kDYPjk4VuHLY/l276 JMz+9HA7MWTEwhK8i44lgN+Rt8+fV27TrAmOsT7kmrQGN+ckPMzzzjBraW9Xnp8p BBKYDZOOg0YonWYdZPBailYRPUgPwTT6ujiay9dQ7uR65rCUvG3UWRKrRmZDYqPJ X0NMd/kezk8= =rJuG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: fwd: [Wlug] Filtering attachments via a Sendmail ruleset?
by Paul Lussier 06 Apr '01

06 Apr '01

In a message dated: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 15:48:11 EDT Jeffry Smith said: >OK, I know we do something to "defang" stuff, could I / you pass what it >is on to this list, to answer this question? > >jeff >------- Forwarded Message > >From: "Dave Coutu" <cout(a)alum.wpi.edu> >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:10:10 -0700 >Subject: [Wlug] Filtering attachments via a Sendmail ruleset? > >Hey Guys, > > Really simple question here... A while back I had asked whether = >sendmail could filter out mail based on a subject header , and found out = >that it could. Now I have a situation here at work where we want to = >filter out attachments, the obvious being .vbs, .exe, basically anything = >that may contain a virus. We don't run anti-virus software on the mail = >server that mail is being delivered to, nor on the sendmail relays = >feeding into it, since they are Solaris boxes and we currently don't = >have a unix version of Norton lying about. But I believe that we can = >filter out attachments through a sendmail ruleset, and I am wondering if = >this is the case. If so, can someone tell me how/where to do it please? = > Would be very appreciative for any help here! Thanks in advance! What we do here is use procmail on our local, internal mail server. There's a great filtering set of procmail rules for this located at: http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html As long as you have procmail installed and sendmail is configured to use procmail, just drop this stuff in place and you'll instantly start filtering stuff based on content and/or extension. There's a lot of configuration and customization you can do with this thing, and we've found that it works fantastic. We've intercepted the "AnnaKournikova" virus many, many times since it's initial release, and I can't even count the number of other virii I've seen trapped since we installed this. HTH, Seeya, Paul -- Paul Lussier Chairman, Nashua Chapter, GNHLUG Senior Systems and Network Engineer Mission Critical Linux, Inc.

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Filtering attachments via a Sendmail ruleset?
by Dave Coutu 05 Apr '01

05 Apr '01

Hey Guys, Really simple question here... A while back I had asked whether sendmail could filter out mail based on a subject header , and found out that it could. Now I have a situation here at work where we want to filter out attachments, the obvious being .vbs, .exe, basically anything that may contain a virus. We don't run anti-virus software on the mail server that mail is being delivered to, nor on the sendmail relays feeding into it, since they are Solaris boxes and we currently don't have a unix version of Norton lying about. But I believe that we can filter out attachments through a sendmail ruleset, and I am wondering if this is the case. If so, can someone tell me how/where to do it please? Would be very appreciative for any help here! Thanks in advance! Dave

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Volunteers needed!
by Andy Stewart 05 Apr '01

05 Apr '01

HI gang, I have been asked to be the guest speaker at the Delphi Developers Group meeting in Newton, MA on Monday, April 23rd (http://www.discom.com/delphi) They are interested in Linux due to the recent product announcement of Borland Kylix (http://www.borland.com/kylix) These folks are a group of software developers living in the Windows world. I had planned to prepare a 45 - 60 minute talk, Q/A, and then demonstrate some apps for them, such as: StarOffice Netscape Developer tools and utilities VmWare LILO Desktops - KDE, Gnome, enlightenment, etc. Installation of Linux The above list was suggested to me by their representative as a list of things that would be interesting to their developers group. I am seeking 2 or 3 people would like to volunteer to demo some of these tools at the meeting, and who can provide support for the questions which I can't answer. I'm looking for folks with systems or laptops that they are willing to bring to this meeting for the demos. I would also appreciate a volunteer or two who would be willing to critique my presentation slides before the meeting. You would not need to actually attend the meeting. I'd e-mail the slides to you and request your written feedback. The Delphi group representative will also get a sneak preview. If you are interested in either of these opportunities, please contact me this week if at all possible. Thanks in advance! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | Harris's Lament: All the good ones are Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | taken. Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | http://www.wlug.org |

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RE: [Wlug] Friendly ISP in Worcester
by Keller, Tim 04 Apr '01

04 Apr '01

Well, I'm only on dialup and I've been using Erols (Its actually RCN) and I've had extremely good luck with them. Like everything, your mileage may very... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Rodrigo Gomes [mailto:gomes_k@dr.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:18 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Friendly ISP in Worcester I would like to know names and url of lnx friendly ISP's in Worcester area. Thanks in advance. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Friendly ISP in Worcester
by Richard H Fox 04 Apr '01

04 Apr '01

I've used AT&T Worldnet with great success - much faster than other dialups... yes, the big mega-ISP but with Linux loving employees who I've spoken with for server / network related issues... how Linux friendly is AT&T??? Visit: http://www.wurd.com/eng/setup/dialers/index.htm There's other Linux stuff on the AT&T WURD site ( http://www.wurd.com ) - but I think this is what you are looking for... OH! if you want to sign up for a Linux account use this method: https://registration.att.net/cgi-bin/inregister Hit the CONTINUE REGISTRATION button - the nine-character Registration Code is not needed... The only way to avoid downloading the Wintel or MAC dialer to setup an AT&T account is through this page... and AT&T customer (tech) support forwarded me a Linux guy (Debian his preference though he runs Mandrake on one of his machines) who gave me the link, only available by direct reference... Best... Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rodrigo Gomes" <gomes_k(a)dr.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: [Wlug] Friendly ISP in Worcester I would like to know names and url of lnx friendly ISP's in Worcester area. Thanks in advance. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Friendly ISP in Worcester
by Rodrigo Gomes 04 Apr '01

04 Apr '01

I would like to know names and url of lnx friendly ISP's in Worcester area. Thanks in advance. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup

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Firewalls
by Michael Long 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

After spending many hours this past week trying to understand ipchains and firewalling in general I have come to the conclusion that I am spending a lot of time trying to recreate something that probably already exists. Does anyone have any experience with either open source or commercial firewalling products that can be configured to work in a small office network and allow VPN connections to larger networks. I do not have a very big budget but would be willing to pay for the appropriate solution. Mike

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Startup issues
by Michael Long 02 Apr '01

02 Apr '01

I have been playing with my network settings today and have made a change that has caused my system to be unable to read this file during boot up. Also any script that tries to read from it is unable to. Unfortunately I have no idea what I did to cause this. The following is the out put from 'ls -l' -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 235 Jan 30 19:59/ etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config I am running SuSE 7.0. Thanks, mike

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Richard Stallman will be speaking at Holy Cross
by Andy Stewart 23 Mar '01

23 Mar '01

Hi WLUG members, Richard Stallman will be speaking at Holy Cross soon. See the details below in an e-mail which I recently received. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | Being stoned on marijuana isn't very Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | different from being stoned on gin. -- Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | Ralph Nader http://www.wlug.org | -------- Original Message -------- Subject: GNU/Linux Event at Holy Cross Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:51:33 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Hwang <ahwang(a)mathcs.holycross.edu> Reply-To: Andrew Hwang <ahwang(a)mathcs.holycross.edu> To: astewart(a)world.std.com As part of an ongoing series of talks on Computer Science and Ethics, Richard Stallman of the Free Software Foundation will be speaking on Wednesday, April 18, at the College of the Holy Cross. The title of his talk is "The Free Software movement, and the GNU/Linux operating system" The talk will start at 3:30 and will run for about 2 hours (including Q&A). The location is 112 O'Neill Hall. The event is open to the public, and GNU software will be for sale. If you have questions about this event, please send me email at the address below. Hope to see you there! Andrew D. Hwang ahwang(a)mathcs.holycross.edu Department of Math and CS http://mathcs.holycross.edu/~ahwang College of the Holy Cross (508) 793-2458 (Office: 331 Swords Hall) Worcester, MA, 01610 (508) 793-3530 (fax)

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Help with NIS
by Leon Do 19 Mar '01

19 Mar '01

I have my NIS server running on a redhat box. Can somebody help me how to setup my win machines to use linux NIS server? Thanks -- Leon Do

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Problems
by Doctor Orbitz 16 Mar '01

16 Mar '01

I have Slackware 7.1 running on a an AMD 133Mhz box with 32Megs RAM. This is my webserver, shell server, Ip MASQ box, and it locks up alot. It seems to lock up when I'm downloading on a box in my network behind it. I am runnign Kernel 2.4.0 on an ADSL line. I have had this problem with all kernel compiles I have done. I used to run FreeBSD, then OpenBSD on this box with no trouble. I did not, however, have ADSL then, so those boxes were just using a dial-up. I think IP MASQ is lockign the box up at some point. There are no messages in /var/log/messages, it just stops cold. My PPPOE client, when running top, never appears to use more than 10% of my CPU. I do not think the problem is in the pppoe client because the box does not seem to lock up when I'm downloading on it. (as in ssh'ing in and using lynx). Does anyone have any ideas on this? Orbitz

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Looking for someone to assist in setting up a server
by David Dondero 15 Mar '01

15 Mar '01

Hello all, My name is David Dondero and I am looking for someone who can help me set up a Red Hat Linux server that can: Use the apache webserver to set up hosting customer's webpages as well as my own Run RealServer basic for streaming audio and video live and on demand Run Darwin Streaming server for streaming audio and video live and on demand in QuickTime Run a Shoutcast server for live audio streaming I currently have a Duron 650 with a 15 and 20 gig hard drive 7200rpm with 128 megs of PC100 memory. Anyone interested please get in touch by either e-mail: daviddondero(a)radio521.com or phone H) 781-934-7978 W) 781-934-7035 thanks, David Dondero

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REMINDER: Meeting on Wednesday, March 14th at 7 PM
by Andy Stewart 13 Mar '01

13 Mar '01

HI everyone, This is a friendly reminder: the next WLUG meeting will be held on Wednesday, March 14th at 7 PM in Kinnicutt Hall at WPI in Worcester, MA. Directions can be found on the WLUG website: http://www.wlug.org WLUG members Doug Waud, Stephen Daukas, and Chuck Anderson have been working together on the presentation for this meeting (at least that's the story I've been given). They will be discussing their experiences with home networking. Check out the WLUG website for a more detailed description of the focus of their talk. I expect that this will be a good meeting for someone who might not have setup a home network but is considering it. After the presentation, if time allows, we'll open the floor for a general question and answer session. At the conclusion of the meeting, a group of us will head over to the Boynton Restaurant for some pizza and beer. As always, the meeting and the post-meeting festivities are open to anybody who is interested in Linux. No secret handshake is required. :-) See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | Aquadextrous, adj.: Possessing the Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | ability to turn the bathtub faucet on and Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | off with your toes. -- Rich Hall, http://www.wlug.org | "Sniglets"

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Open Source XML Programming Tutorial
by Steve Litt 07 Mar '01

07 Mar '01

Hi all, Because most XML books and websites force the you to recite Microsoft incantations, I wrote an all Open Source XML programming tutorial using Linux and Xerces-Java from Apache Software Foundation. It thoroughly covers coding of DOM, SAX, and DTD's. http://www.troubleshooters.com/tpromag/200103/200103.htm Enjoy! SteveT Steve Litt Webmaster, Troubleshooters.Com http://www.troubleshooters.com slitt(a)troubleshooters.com

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Set Date/Time
by Peter Nikolla 05 Mar '01

05 Mar '01

I would like to thank everyone that helped me with the setting of date/time. I think the hwclock command did the trick. thanx Peter N.

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Set Date/Time
by Peter Nikolla 04 Mar '01

04 Mar '01

Hi, I am having a problem setting the date/time on my Linux box. I set it using date 030310152001 for 3/3/2001 10:15. Everyting seems fine until I reboot the box. At that time it changes to some other time. I checked my CMOS and the time is correct. What am I doing wrong? thanx for your help. Peter N.

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UNIX Developer Positions
by B.J. Herbison 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

HighGround Systems has a couple of positions open for experienced UNIX developers. Our current storage resource management products support several versions of UNIX, and we expect to do more UNIX work when our purchase by Sun Microsystems is completed. Two of the current positions have UNIX in the title, but most of the open positions list UNIX as a relevant technology. Please send me your resume if you are interested in one of the positions. B.J. Employment: http://www.highground.com/employment/default.htm Career Opportunities: http://www.highground.com/employment/careers.htm Principal Engineer UNIX Developer: http://www.highground.com/employment/careers.htm#pe_unixd Principal Engineer - Senior UNIX Developer: http://www.highground.com/employment/careers.htm#two -- B.J. Herbison / bj(a)herbison.com / http://www.herbison.com/herbison/bj.html The Next Asylum / 203 Long Hill Road / Bolton, MA 01740-1421 / +1 978 634-1061

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Cable Modem
by Bill Mills-Curran 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

I'm about to take the plunge and get hooked up to Charter Cable for internet access. Does anyone have any experience/recommendations for cable modems? Is it better to buy my own, and from where? TIA, Bill

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UNIX Admin position
by Ritacco, Alan 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

I was very successful last time in mailing this list when I was looking for a UNIX (Solaris) admin [about a year ago I sent a similar message in which Adam responded and has been working at UMASS since]. I am now again looking to fill a UNIX admin position at UMASS Medical School (in Worcester). If you know anyone and or you are interested please email me your resume and I will forward it to the powers to be. Thanks And sorry for the spam :) Al

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Re: [Wlug] Cable Modem
by Thomas Carey 28 Feb '01

28 Feb '01

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Re: [Wlug] Network problem: mine or theirs?
by ccb＠acm.org 26 Feb '01

26 Feb '01

Hmmm. Perhaps they have a proxy in-line and the proxy is having trouble. ccb -- Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com

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Network problem: mine or theirs?
by Andy Stewart 24 Feb '01

24 Feb '01

Hi all, I have a problem accessing the Internet. On precisely every other attempt, I get failures. For example, every other unique URL I click in Netscape gives me the following error: A network error occurred while Netscape was receiving data. (Network error: connection reset by peer) Try connecting again. I suspect that my network provider's DNS server is having problems. Since I'm a DHCP client of AT&T Broadband, I tried removing all but one of the nameserver lines in the /etc/resolv.conf file to see if one of them was flaky. After trying all 3 provided nameservers uniquely, either this isn't the problem, or they're all flaky. Any thoughts? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | It is easier to change the specification Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | to fit the program than vice versa. Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | http://www.wlug.org |

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PPPD 2.3.11 on kernel 2.4.1
by Peter Gutowski 23 Feb '01

23 Feb '01

I've got kernel 2.4.1 up and running and am pleased that all seems to be relatively well. My boss has an iMac at home and dials in via a ppp connection to one of my linux boxes running now 2.4.1. I've played with various ppp options and have removed just about everything from the /etc/ppp/options file. Feb 23 11:37:15 lx1 pppd[10485]: pppd 2.3.11 started by a_ppp, uid 0 Feb 23 11:37:15 lx1 pppd[10485]: ioctl(PPPIOCGFLAGS): Invalid argument Feb 23 11:37:15 lx1 pppd[10485]: tcsetattr: Invalid argument Feb 23 11:37:15 lx1 pppd[10485]: Exit. Here's the current modules: (root on lx1) peterg # lsmod Module Size Used by iptable_mangle 1884 0 (unused) iptable_filter 1848 0 (unused) ip_tables 13016 2 [iptable_mangle iptable_filter] slip 5688 0 (unused) bsd_comp 4172 0 (unused) ppp_deflate 41148 0 (unused) ppp_async 6060 0 ppp_generic 13088 0 [bsd_comp ppp_deflate ppp_async] slhc 4836 0 [ppp_generic] 3c59x 23420 2 (autoclean) agpgart 21900 0 (unused) I also happened to read something this morning on lwn.net (http://lwn.net/2001/0222/kernel.php3) that suggested that certain ppp things weren't working because the MTU min size was higher than ppp wanted to set. As it suggested i've done: `echo 256 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/route/min_adv_mss` to no avail! I keep suggesting (lately increasingly less subtly) that he consider a cable modem but so far he still wants to do it this way. Any ideas? -- Peter Gutowski peterg(a)powervue.com http://www.powervue.com/~peterg

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To: wlug.org message board manager
by Alexander S. Leon 22 Feb '01

22 Feb '01

The postings on the message board at wlug.org have the wrong year attached to them. I posted a message on 2/21/01, and the date on it is "2/21/00", instead of "2/21/01". This ought to be corrected. I hope this gets to the right person...

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ssh
by Brad Noyes 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

Hi, When i pop my mail i create a tunnel through ssh, and pop through that. Using this command "ssh -C -f me(a)pop.myserver -L 10110:pop.myserver:110 sleep 30" Well every time i create the tunnel i have to enter my password for the pop server. Is there a way to use ssh tools so i don't have to enter my password? I'm using kmail is that's relevant. Thanks, --Brad

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900 pair -22 AWG ,PE89 cable for sale !!!
by pmilea＠oo.net 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

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