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LISA Dallas 2007
by Tal Cohen Nov. 5, 2007

Nov. 5, 2007

Is anyone from the group going to LISA? My schedule has prevented me from attending WLUG meetings, but I am going to LISA and was hoping to meet other WLUG members there :-) Tal

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Looking for a project and contact person
by kstratton＠fastmail.us Oct. 27, 2007

Oct. 27, 2007

I am looking for a good project to get involved with and I am looking for ideas. What I offer to the potential project: 1) Low level programming experience (no operating system) in C. I do know some assembly programming, but I would likely have to learn or relearn the architecture being used or developed for. I am currently developing non-trivial applications for microchip microcontrollers and I have also worked with MIPS4 (Microprocessor Without Interlocking Pipeline Stages). 2) Ability to read a datasheet and understanding of how hardware works. 3) Time Where I am weak (today): Although I consider myself to have basic linux/gentoo skills there is a plethora of linux topics and technologies that I need to learn in a more methodical way. I am willing to do my homework, but I looking for the focus or direction of a project to force me to learn these things. What I hope to achieve: Learn more about the interfaces to the kernel and other resources. I eventually wish to be reasonably independent developing for an embedded system. An example of a project that may be appropriate is lm_sensors, but at this time I am unwilling to continuously buy hardware to develop on. If anybody has any serious ideas, I am more than willing to listen. -- kstratton(a)fastmail.us

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How to stop screen blanking while watching movie?
by Richard Klein Oct. 23, 2007

Oct. 23, 2007

Windows XP and OS X are both smart enough to not blank the screen or invoke the screensaver when I'm watching a movie. My P4m-based laptop (Dell Inspiron 8200) running debian etch blanks the screen after 15 minutes, even if I disable the screensaver and all power saving options. I don't watch movies on it that often, so I resigned myself to hitting the CTRL key every so often when I do. I installed Ubuntu Guilty Gibson on my Opteron-based desktop (Asus A8V Deluxe motherboard) yesterday and found it does exactly the same thing. Do you have any ideas how I can get them to stop blanking the screen, at least while I'm watching movies? -- Thanks! Rich

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Reminder: Upcoming Meeting Wed Oct 10th
by Andy Stewart Oct. 15, 2007

Oct. 15, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Our next WLUG meeting is approaching soon. On Wednesday, October 10th, 2007, we'll be having our Newbie Night at WLUG. On this occasion, new Linux users are most welcome to attend and ask their questions to the more experienced Linux users in a non-intimidating environment. Experienced folks are also welcome to attend to help out the new users. Try to remember what it was like when you were a new user and tailor your answers accordingly! The new folks will be very appreciative. Also, if some people would be willing to burn a few CDs or DVDs with their favorite Linux distribution or Live CD, then the new users will have choices that they can take home and try at their leisure. My personal recommendations would be Knoppix, (K)ubuntu, OpenSuse, Damn Small Linux, and some RedHat derivative (Fedora, CentOS, etc). Feel free to share whatever your favorite may be. I also think that a few laptops running these different distros would be great demo tools for the new users. One last note: unfortunately, I will not be present for this meeting. I will be in Austin, TX on business. I've asked Chuck and Frank if they would run the meeting. Just because I can't make it, you should all still get together and enjoy the meeting. This is your chance to make fun of me in my absence (as opposed to doing so in my presence!). :-) I will have access to email during my trip. Have fun, and remember, we were all new...once upon a time. Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHBZkIHl0iXDssISsRApNrAJ9Vg/FOwrA5eef5MgUXZxgby3TwhACfdJ3h aDunlcUOkwxCP5xUgqGTlrE= =cjtu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] sshfs + certificate files + fstab?
by Jamie Guinan Sept. 21, 2007

Sept. 21, 2007

Sure, http://goonathon.net/misc/x.mount I keep in it ~/bin/ . I mount everything under ~/ssh/ (sshfs) or ~/ftp/ (curlftpfs). Usage: $ x.mount $ x.mount ~/ssh/bluebutton.com To unmount, $ fusermount -u /home/guinan/ssh/bluebutton.com but I usually mount as-needed and forget about it. -Jamie On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Eric Stein wrote: > Could I get a look at that script? > > Eric > > Jamie Guinan wrote: > > What userid is invoking sshfs? If its in /etc/fstab, and you're using > > a setuid /bin/mount, it might be looking for authorized_keys under > > the setuid id's homedir (root?). > > > > In which case, you might also want to add "-o allow_other", and > > double-check the other sshfs options. > > > > Since I'm the only user of my sytsem, I use a little script, do it all > > under my userid, and avoid /etc/fstab. > > > > -Jamie > > > > > > On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Eric Stein wrote: > > > > > >> I already do this for normal ssh and it doesn't work for sshfs - I get > >> queried for my password anyway. > >> > >> Eric > >> > >> Mike Leo wrote: > >> > >>> Create an ssh key on the local machine and put the public portion of > >>> it into the remote servers /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys file then > >>> you can ssh(fs) without a password > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wlug mailing list > >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] sshfs + certificate files + fstab?
by Jamie Guinan Sept. 21, 2007

Sept. 21, 2007

What userid is invoking sshfs? If its in /etc/fstab, and you're using a setuid /bin/mount, it might be looking for authorized_keys under the setuid id's homedir (root?). In which case, you might also want to add "-o allow_other", and double-check the other sshfs options. Since I'm the only user of my sytsem, I use a little script, do it all under my userid, and avoid /etc/fstab. -Jamie On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Eric Stein wrote: > I already do this for normal ssh and it doesn't work for sshfs - I get > queried for my password anyway. > > Eric > > Mike Leo wrote: > > Create an ssh key on the local machine and put the public portion of > > it into the remote servers /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys file then > > you can ssh(fs) without a password > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] sshfs + certificate files + fstab?
by Mike Leo Sept. 21, 2007

Sept. 21, 2007

Create an ssh key on the local machine and put the public portion of it into the remote servers /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys file then you can ssh(fs) without a password ----- Original Message ---- From: Eric Stein <eastein(a)WPI.EDU> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:28:47 AM Subject: [Wlug] sshfs + certificate files + fstab? Eric, I remember you mentioned you knew how to use sshfs with certificates for passwordless mounting at the last meeting when we went out for pizza. How was that done? Eric _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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sshfs + certificate files + fstab?
by Eric Stein Sept. 21, 2007

Sept. 21, 2007

Eric, I remember you mentioned you knew how to use sshfs with certificates for passwordless mounting at the last meeting when we went out for pizza. How was that done? Eric

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Re: [Wlug] Can Feisty Fawn solve an iPod problem?
by Ben Childs Sept. 20, 2007

Sept. 20, 2007

In the worst case, once you have the 350 songs off the Ipod, you could just copy them over to the vista pc and then itunes on the vista pc will take care of the rest... -Ben Childs

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Re: [Wlug] Can Feisty Fawn solve an iPod problem?
by brad Sept. 18, 2007

Sept. 18, 2007

> Thanks Brad for the info. Yes, it's an HFS+ formatted iPod, and hence my > problem. I'll try the "touch test" test you suggest. I have a feeling > though, I may be out of luck. > My ipod is formatted as hfs+ and i can use it on linux. however i needed to disable the journal feature; that can only be done from within OS X. To do so plug your ipod into OS X and run diskutil -disableJournal <ipod_mount_point>. Although if you plan to reformat the ipod for visit, the format of the ipod will change from HFS+ to vfat, linux has fill read/write support for vfat; so writing to the ipod after you format for visita will not be a problem - brad

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Re: [Wlug] System diagnostics
by Mike Leo Sept. 15, 2007

Sept. 15, 2007

Also, it looks like my debian desktop calls it atsar for some reason ----- Original Message ---- From: "kstratton(a)fastmail.us" <kstratton(a)fastmail.us> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:58:15 AM Subject: Re: [Wlug] System diagnostics Could you provide more information abdout "sar"? I tried wikipedia.com, and on my system: man, info, apropos and emerge (a gentoo distribution tool) for "sar". I did not find anything I thought was relevant.... On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:18:22 -0700 (PDT), "Mike Leo" <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> said: > I learned about "sar" last night due to a server outage...check it out. > > I think it will server your purpose > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 5:42:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Wlug] System diagnostics > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Michael Long wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I just install Ubuntu 6.06 lts. With the box up and running it appears > > that there is disk activity because the light on the case is active. > > However running top shows the box is basically idle (CPU < 1%) and "ps > > aux" shows nothing unusual. I do not claim to be a sys admin however so > > I may not be interpreting things correctly. The fans seem to be working > > harder than before as well. > > > > What command line tools should I be looking at determine the health of > > the machine and drives. The os is on an IDE drive and I have a raid > > (MegaRAID) for the other drive. > > > > I know this is a bit vague but I am not sure where to start. I have been > > using opensuse but now I do not have x or the other tools that come > > bundled with kde. > > > > Thanks, > > Mike > > HI Mike, > > Here's what I would try: > > a) Are you sure that the disk activity light on the case is properly > wired to your MB? Is the light constantly on, or does it flicker? > > b) unplug the network cable to insure that the disk activity isn't > caused by something on the network > > c) If you are sufficiently patient and wait, does the activity stop (say > in 5-10 minute)? > > d) What happens if you run "tail -f /var/log/messages" as root ? Lots > of messages here could cause disk activity. > > I'm sure other folks with have other ideas, but that's my 2cents, > devalued for inflation. > > HTH, > > Andy > > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) > Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) > Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFG6wBfHl0iXDssISsRAmW4AJsF4LyFbM4xr0iZbSZX4aEFkSrh8gCfbTpP > /Cqxnygs6eR/rWTvB5/euKs= > =Gr5U > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- kstratton(a)fastmail.us _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] System diagnostics
by Mike Leo Sept. 15, 2007

Sept. 15, 2007

I learned about "sar" last night due to a server outage...check it out. I think it will server your purpose ----- Original Message ---- From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 5:42:55 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] System diagnostics -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Michael Long wrote: > Hi All, > > I just install Ubuntu 6.06 lts. With the box up and running it appears > that there is disk activity because the light on the case is active. > However running top shows the box is basically idle (CPU < 1%) and "ps > aux" shows nothing unusual. I do not claim to be a sys admin however so > I may not be interpreting things correctly. The fans seem to be working > harder than before as well. > > What command line tools should I be looking at determine the health of > the machine and drives. The os is on an IDE drive and I have a raid > (MegaRAID) for the other drive. > > I know this is a bit vague but I am not sure where to start. I have been > using opensuse but now I do not have x or the other tools that come > bundled with kde. > > Thanks, > Mike HI Mike, Here's what I would try: a) Are you sure that the disk activity light on the case is properly wired to your MB? Is the light constantly on, or does it flicker? b) unplug the network cable to insure that the disk activity isn't caused by something on the network c) If you are sufficiently patient and wait, does the activity stop (say in 5-10 minute)? d) What happens if you run "tail -f /var/log/messages" as root ? Lots of messages here could cause disk activity. I'm sure other folks with have other ideas, but that's my 2cents, devalued for inflation. HTH, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG6wBfHl0iXDssISsRAmW4AJsF4LyFbM4xr0iZbSZX4aEFkSrh8gCfbTpP /Cqxnygs6eR/rWTvB5/euKs= =Gr5U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] System diagnostics
by Mike Leo Sept. 15, 2007

Sept. 15, 2007

I wont trick you...i know very little, but a senior was helping me the other day and showed me it. sar - Possibly one of the most useful (and vexing) commands you can use to monitor a system, System Activity Reporter gathers the specified information from the system on a scheduled basis and builds logfiles that you can then report on or mine specific timeframes to see what was going on between a set of time ticks. You can monitor many things with sar, including: file access routines, buffer activity, system call activity, block device activity, paging and much more. http://schogini.us/wordpress/index.php/2005/11/01/useful-linux-performance-… http://www.remote-dba.net/unix_linux/monitoring_commands.htm Using lvm? http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_lvmsar.htm http://oklinux.org/oracle/Oracle9i_by_guppy.txt ----- Original Message ---- From: "kstratton(a)fastmail.us" <kstratton(a)fastmail.us> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:58:15 AM Subject: Re: [Wlug] System diagnostics Could you provide more information abdout "sar"? I tried wikipedia.com, and on my system: man, info, apropos and emerge (a gentoo distribution tool) for "sar". I did not find anything I thought was relevant.... On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:18:22 -0700 (PDT), "Mike Leo" <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> said: > I learned about "sar" last night due to a server outage...check it out. > > I think it will server your purpose > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 5:42:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Wlug] System diagnostics > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Michael Long wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I just install Ubuntu 6.06 lts. With the box up and running it appears > > that there is disk activity because the light on the case is active. > > However running top shows the box is basically idle (CPU < 1%) and "ps > > aux" shows nothing unusual. I do not claim to be a sys admin however so > > I may not be interpreting things correctly. The fans seem to be working > > harder than before as well. > > > > What command line tools should I be looking at determine the health of > > the machine and drives. The os is on an IDE drive and I have a raid > > (MegaRAID) for the other drive. > > > > I know this is a bit vague but I am not sure where to start. I have been > > using opensuse but now I do not have x or the other tools that come > > bundled with kde. > > > > Thanks, > > Mike > > HI Mike, > > Here's what I would try: > > a) Are you sure that the disk activity light on the case is properly > wired to your MB? Is the light constantly on, or does it flicker? > > b) unplug the network cable to insure that the disk activity isn't > caused by something on the network > > c) If you are sufficiently patient and wait, does the activity stop (say > in 5-10 minute)? > > d) What happens if you run "tail -f /var/log/messages" as root ? Lots > of messages here could cause disk activity. > > I'm sure other folks with have other ideas, but that's my 2cents, > devalued for inflation. > > HTH, > > Andy > > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) > Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) > Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFG6wBfHl0iXDssISsRAmW4AJsF4LyFbM4xr0iZbSZX4aEFkSrh8gCfbTpP > /Cqxnygs6eR/rWTvB5/euKs= > =Gr5U > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- kstratton(a)fastmail.us _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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System diagnostics
by Michael Long Sept. 14, 2007

Sept. 14, 2007

Hi All, I just install Ubuntu 6.06 lts. With the box up and running it appears that there is disk activity because the light on the case is active. However running top shows the box is basically idle (CPU < 1%) and "ps aux" shows nothing unusual. I do not claim to be a sys admin however so I may not be interpreting things correctly. The fans seem to be working harder than before as well. What command line tools should I be looking at determine the health of the machine and drives. The os is on an IDE drive and I have a raid (MegaRAID) for the other drive. I know this is a bit vague but I am not sure where to start. I have been using opensuse but now I do not have x or the other tools that come bundled with kde. Thanks, Mike

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apcupsd talk by Doug Mildram
by Andy Stewart Sept. 13, 2007

Sept. 13, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, At our most recent WLUG meeting, Doug Mildram gave us a nice demo of his APC Smart UPS 620 which was connected to a Linux laptop running apcupsd and also a Windows laptop running the same free software. I had mentioned in the meeting that I was able to view the UPS data via a GUI on my web browser. I am running version 3.12.4 of apcupsd, and in the src/cgi directory is a file called upsstats.cgi. That's the magic file to which I point my browser to set the GUI type display. Thanks, Doug, for giving the talk on short notice. We enjoyed it! Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG6LhrHl0iXDssISsRAiAxAJ98/On8bhPVftBOA2GzFXgvI1oOfwCffW+/ 5Ocxju9/JvdyJpBtw0X4i3A= =+8Qy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] Web hosting
by Jamie Guinan Sept. 12, 2007

Sept. 12, 2007

I ended up doing a (rather pricey) full colo, but if I had gone with shared hosting, these guys[1] looked interesting, http://linode.com/ -Jamie [1] When I read about it, I got the impression that it is mostly one rather smart dude behind it. On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Mike Leo wrote: > I know this question has gone around a few times, but I don't keep all the = > emails i get!=0A=0AAnyway, i host a weak little personal web site out of my= > house and was looking into hosting companies.=0A=0ANot quite sure how it w= > orks, if I want linux/mysql/wordpress. I need more than just a place to ho= > ld my index.html.=0A=0AAre there companies that give me total control over = > a "server" on the internet? I say "server" 'cause my guess would be a virt= > ual machine I could control remotely.=0A=0AAny advise would be greatly appr= > eciated.=0A=0AMike=0A=0A

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Web hosting
by Mike Leo Sept. 12, 2007

Sept. 12, 2007

I know this question has gone around a few times, but I don't keep all the emails i get! Anyway, i host a weak little personal web site out of my house and was looking into hosting companies. Not quite sure how it works, if I want linux/mysql/wordpress. I need more than just a place to hold my index.html. Are there companies that give me total control over a "server" on the internet? I say "server" 'cause my guess would be a virtual machine I could control remotely. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Mike

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Reminder: Meeting, Wed Sept 12th, 7:00 PM
by Andy Stewart Sept. 11, 2007

Sept. 11, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, Our next WLUG meeting will be on Wednesday, September 12th, at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. If anybody would like to drive the discussion, feel free, otherwise, it will be a round table discussion. I'm wondering if anybody has any interest in giving a group presentation for any upcoming meeting. If so, please contact me. Afterwards, we'll get pizza on Highland Street. See ya then! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG5gwhHl0iXDssISsRAn/fAJ0dMWdoPYXrSgXnHqArYw5CCWq38gCfZeeO q8tycQ3bhyEeuDAvhbxjMzQ= =PukN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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AMD Details Strategic Open Source Graphics Driver Development Initiative
by Andy Stewart Sept. 10, 2007

Sept. 10, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Interesting reading: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~119372,00… - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG4bdsHl0iXDssISsRAj7bAJ0Zrnmt+OZfcOcCM/BNnFokdcBg+ACfQJVS LpZyqlOLvo5OgfYRvMgOs20= =GvlO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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thursday meetings?
by Eric Stein Sept. 10, 2007

Sept. 10, 2007

Is it just me, or did we used to meet on Wednesdays? I have a class at that time, I guess this is bye until spring. Eric

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Oh my gawd.. What do I do now?
by Ken Jones Sept. 7, 2007

Sept. 7, 2007

I have a single 120 Gig hard drive dual booted XP and Fedora Core 6 machine. Recently Linux had been running slowly. I restarted, selected the linux side and was shocked to have it fail into a fix disk mode. It suggested that I use fsck. I did and answered "yes" to seemingly thousands of questions. Once finally done fixing errors I rebooted. Now it fails completely. It complains about multiple "dma-intr: error" and {uncorrectable error} The last gasp before terminating says: "not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" Then it hangs indefinitely. No keyboard input has any affect. The XP side of the machine works fine, but it crashes overnight. Where do I start? What do I do? Can I save the linux half of the hard drive? Ken Jones

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EEProm Programmer
by Tom Misilo Sept. 7, 2007

Sept. 7, 2007

Hey, I know this isn't completely linux related, but I was wondering if anyone happened to have any information on a Omni 64 EEPROM programmer.The Model is "Omni 64" And was manufactured by Oliver Advanced Engineering, Inc. (OAE). What I really want to do is be able to use the programmer to program some EEPROMs and make them boot eeproms for a few network cards so I can use LTSP (Thin Clients) on more computers I have and not have to attempt to boot from cd or floppy. Thanks, Tom Misilo -- Tom Misilo AIM:Tmisilo FL Jabber:tmisilo@jabber.org http://tmisilo.ath.cx

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[Fwd: looking for someone to do system administration]
by Andy Stewart Aug. 28, 2007

Aug. 28, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, Can anybody help out Anita? If so, please contact her directly. THanks! Andy - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: looking for someone to do system administration Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 17:43:45 -0400 From: Anita Wos <anita(a)artofrowing.com> To: andystewart(a)comcast.net Andy- I came across your name on the WLUG web site. Perhaps you can head me in the right direction. I am looking for someone to do System Administration on my Cobalt web server. It runs Apache, mySQL and pHp. It runs a couple of web sites. If you have any ideas, please let me know. - - Anita - -- The Art of Rowing 279 Plantation Street, 1st floor Worcester, MA 01604 tel: 978-342-8333 http://www.ArtofRowing.com Anita Wos anita(a)artofrowing.com <mailto:anita@artofrowing.com> mobile phone: 978-808-1102 - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGt6/3Hl0iXDssISsRAvR4AJ96n9QU6ubmvNa0bJN3VAV0XPX86wCfc2Rq 57Ba3eYAzgBsjiZPJxiQlQU= =EFYE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] comparison of virtualization technologies
by Mike Leo Aug. 20, 2007

Aug. 20, 2007

I wasn't at the meeting, but anytime virtualization I have to mention virtualbox.com....works better than VMWare Workstation plus its free! ----- Original Message ---- From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> To: wlug(a)wlug.org Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:54:43 PM Subject: [Wlug] comparison of virtualization technologies Here are the links to the virtualization technology comparison we talked about at the meeting: http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/TechComparison http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/HypervisorVsLinuxBased _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Sysstat -> Graph?
by Adam Keck Aug. 20, 2007

Aug. 20, 2007

Hello All, What are your favorite sysstat graphing tools? I run sysstat on almost everything, but also have orca for Linux collecting data from several servers for graphing. I am wondering if I can make do with only sysstat. -Adam

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comparison of virtualization technologies
by Chuck Anderson Aug. 17, 2007

Aug. 17, 2007

Here are the links to the virtualization technology comparison we talked about at the meeting: http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/TechComparison http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/HypervisorVsLinuxBased

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Awesome article about Windows v. Linux in the marketplace
by Eric Martin Aug. 17, 2007

Aug. 17, 2007

I found this on either digg or slashdot. It's a really good article and I agree with most of it. People won't even consider GNU/Linux while they can still get a copy of XP for free from a buddy. That's why I tell people that I won't support their pirating of software; and pitch FOSS at every turn to them. http://tlug.jp/articles/Windows_Is_Free Give it a read, it might spur some good conversations tonight.

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting coming up
by Andy Stewart Aug. 16, 2007

Aug. 16, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Its that time again for a WLUG meeting: Thursday, August 16th 7:00 PM Access Grid Room WPI Campus Worcester, MA USA See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGwn8kHl0iXDssISsRAikMAJ9zfo16xjYwhPIRJFOIr2D0raS23ACcDEmA D3w9ynOUYfEUFrgymuELv90= =Jnxo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Linux meta-questions - platform choice
by Adam Keck Aug. 10, 2007

Aug. 10, 2007

Hello All, I have some "meta-Linux" questions regarding platform choice. I am wondering if anyone knows of any research, papers, or other work that has been done on the topic. Given two major types of IT infrastructure: - Heterogeneous, where each application/service uses the platform to which it is best suited. - Homogeneous, where one bends a particular platform to fit every edge case. where the platform can be anything from and OS to a language to an application stack. o Under what general conditions is one infrastructure type more efficient than the other? o What other types of infrastructure are there? o More generally, how does one compare infrastructures in a rigorous manner? - How does one rigorously define "efficient" when comparing concepts like infrastructures? - What other metrics, besides "efficiency" (however defined) may be useful in comparing infrastructures? Does anyone know of any work where this topic has been abstracted and analyzed mathematically? Or of any trade papers where this question has been looked at in practice? So far, I found the following paper via Google: http://uic.edu/cba/cba-depts/ids/IDSNewsFiles/JGITM_Evaristopaper.pdf that seems to be on the topic and some hits on arxiv that appear related but not specifically on the topic. This relates to Linux in that convincing an organization to switch entirely over to Linux seems to be prohibitively hard in practice, but if one can show that the heterogeneous case above can be more efficient, then one can make the case for using Linux where it fits best. Thanks for any info/opinions/personal experiences! -Adam

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Anybody want a really cheap computer?
by Andy Stewart Aug. 6, 2007

Aug. 6, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, Check this link: http://www.dataevolution.com/dectop%20info%202.htm This company bought the assets to the AMD PIC (personal internet computer). They're selling it for $99, or three for $299. Yes, it runs Linux. Here is one person's experience: http://jsco.org/dectop/ I wonder if this machine would make a good LTSP thin client...hummmmm. Perhaps a topic for a future WLUG meeting? See ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGqo+VHl0iXDssISsRAnvgAKCBXbtNXCZ4paL2KzmGCvOYOPr0cQCfVaKH swC2c4lA1DSL6SoiKix8vB0= =gaqH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] Anybody want a really cheap computer?
by Jamie Guinan Aug. 6, 2007

Aug. 6, 2007

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007, Andy Stewart wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > HI everybody, > > Check this link: > http://www.dataevolution.com/dectop%20info%202.htm > > This company bought the assets to the AMD PIC (personal internet > computer). They're selling it for $99, or three for $299. > > Yes, it runs Linux. Here is one person's experience: > http://jsco.org/dectop/ > > I wonder if this machine would make a good LTSP thin client...hummmmm. > Perhaps a topic for a future WLUG meeting? > > See ya later, > > Andy I remember reading about this when it came out a few years ago. It was intended for the same market that OLPC is now aiming for. Hence the rugged "big mac" case. :) Of course it lacks a monitor. A few others to consider, Nicer form factor, but slower CPU (166MHz), no HD: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS6828123924.html http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcjr/index.html USB 2.0, but pricier (price listed in Euros): http://www.linutop.com/ Consumer variant of OLPC XO1, whenever it comes out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC Not to discourage you - the PIC looks like a fun little box! -Jamie

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core 2 duo extremely slow
by brad Aug. 3, 2007

Aug. 3, 2007

Hi All, I recently got in a nice new 2.4GHz core 2 duo with a bunch of memory, 8GB. I installed kubuntu i386 on it. To get use of the 8GB of memory i recompiled the kernel to enable high memory support, a.k.a PAE. When i booted the new kernel it saw all my memory, but it took 10-15 minutes to boot. i checked dmesg and it didn't seem to report anything out of the ordinary. Then, I thought that perhaps the 64bit version of kubuntu might be a better option. I installed kubuntu 64bit. The install took two days because every step was extremely slow. Once the install finished, i rebooted and it took 10-15 to boot. I was seeing the same symptoms of the 64bit install as i was with the 32bit install with PAE. I tried downloading the current kubuntu 64bit release as well as the beta of the next release. I'm also trying Fedora Core 7 64bit as i type, but that install is going just as slow. I hunted through the BIOS for any suspicious settings. I removed all the hardware except for the CD-ROM (to boot a live CD). I did searching through the interweb. All with no luck to solving this problem. If anyone has any suggestions, they will be much appreciated. keep cool, - brad

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Detecting power failure
by Tal Cohen Aug. 3, 2007

Aug. 3, 2007

Hi Guys, I have a question about detecting power failures in Linux. I have an Intel server sitting in a datacenter. It is running Crux 2.1 (a 2.6 kernel). It is a 2U server with 2 power supplies. Does anyone know if I can detect when 1 of the power supplies fails? Thanks, Tal

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Programming position at UMass CS
by Hanna M. Wallach July 30, 2007

July 30, 2007

========================================== Software Engineer in Information Extraction and Synthesis Laboratory at UMass. Work with computer science researchers and other software engineers to revolutionize search over research literature and patents. See our preliminary web portal for computer science researchers at http://rexa.info/faq, and read relevant publications at http://www.cs.umass.edu/~mccallum/papers. Open source tools: Linux, Java, MySQL, Apache, ... Modern methods: Test-driven development using the Java/Spring framework. Feature-rich, Ajax-based web interfaces. Intellectually stimulating: Learn about cutting edge methods in machine learning, information extraction, web search, data mining, social network analysis. Serious hardware platforms: 100-CPU cluster, 10Tb disk, fast servers and desktops. Challenging work: Not cookie-cutter programming. Integrate with machine learning methods; program for high parallelism; devise algorithms for massive scalability. High creativity, intelligence, experience, and independent drive required. Experienced colleagues: Former VP R&D 170-person startup, extensive professional software engineering experience on the team. Tuition Benefits: Take UMass Amherst courses while working. Opportunities to publish research papers, if desired. True search: No internal candidate. Excellent follow-on prospects: Several others from the lab later got job offers from Google, Yahoo, IBM, Microsoft. (We want someone interested in staying multiple years, though.) Time off: Five weeks vacation and personal time, plus 13 holidays each year. Gorgeous location: Amherst, MA: bucolic surroundings plus active culture. Smith, Holyoke, Hampshire and Amherst Colleges all in the neighborhood. Office with window. ================================================ Rexa: http://rexa.info (create free login) Rexa is a digital library covering the computer science research literature and the people who create it. Rexa is a sibling to Google Scholar, CiteSeer and the ACM Portal. It's chief enhancement is that Rexa knows about more first-class, de-duplicated, cross-referenced object types: not only papers and their citation links, but also people, grants, topics---and in the near future universities, conferences, journals, research communities, and more. Rexa currently provides: * Keyword search on over 7 million papers (mostly in computer science) * Cross-linked pages for papers, authors, topics and NSF grants * Browsing by citations, authors, co-authors, cited authors, citing authors; (find who cites you most by clicking "Citing authors" on your home page) * Web-2.0-style "tagging" to bookmark papers * Automatically-gathered contact info and photos of author's faces * Analysis of research topics, their impact, and how they relate. Coming soon: * Much improved coverage of recent CS papers (it's somewhat weak now) * Ability to make corrections to extracted data Coming later: * Improved ranking, extraction and co-reference accuracy * Much more data mining * Broader coverage of more research fields Rather than seeing our siblings as competitors, we believe that such services are like "newspapers for the research community", and, just as it is tremendously important that there is not solely one national newspaper, we think there should be many such services. This is especially true since increasingly they will do more than simply supply raw information, but also provide subjective analysis, pattern discovery, and predictions. Rexa acts as driving application and showcase for our research in machine learning, natural language processing, information extraction, entity resolution, trend analysis and social network analysis. We aim to revolutionize the progress of science by providing new tools to help scientists do their job more effectively. ============================================ Official Job Posting: The Information Extraction and Synthesis Laboratory within the Center for Intelligent Information Retrieval (CIIR) at the University of Massachusetts Amherst is seeking computer professionals to support its expanding research. The Software Engineers will design, implement, and maintain software systems. Both positions require experience with programming in Java or C++ and with building software systems, web-based systems experience is a plus. Experience preferred in Unix, Network, shell script programming and one or more of the following: information retrieval, natural language processing, text and information extraction processing, and database systems. Software Engineer 1: B.S. in computer science or related field, or equivalent combination of education, training and experience, plus 2-4 years experience or equivalent. M.S. preferred. Hiring Range: $39,200 - $55,400. Respond to Search #R25014. Senior Software Engineer: M.S. in Computer Science or equivalent and 2-4 years of related work experience. Demonstrated leadership ability required; project management experience preferred. Hiring Range: $47,600 - $65,000. Respond to Search #R26907. To apply, send a letter with your resume and three letters of recommendation to: Search {# from above}, Computer Science Department, University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003-9264. These positions are grant-funded; renewal beyond one year contingent upon continued funding. Review of applications will continue until the available positions are filled. The University of Massachusetts is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer. Women and members of minority groups are encouraged to apply.

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Evolution plugin for MS Exchange
by chuck July 26, 2007

July 26, 2007

Hi All, I'm running kubuntu feisty with evolution 2.10.1. I'm trying to use the exchange plugin to connect to the MS 2003 Exchange Server at work. I have all the info about the implementation of Exchange from the IT folks, but I just can't make the plugin work. When I enter in my password, I get "Can not authenticate. (password incorrect?)" error. For the "Identity" - Username is my name (not surprising...) - Email address is my fully qualified email address. For the "Receiving email" - Server type is Microsoft exchange - Username is my domainname\username (Note: I've tried it without the domainname, still no joy). - OWA URL is the webmail URL (this has been confirmed by the IT folks) - Authenticate - I enter my password - seems to be ok. - Authentication Type - I've tried both secure and plaintext For "Receiving options" - Global Address List/Active directory settings - There's no entry I've looked at the Ubuntu launchpad website and there seems to be a few issues with the plugin. When evolution starts, it tries to search for mail folders, but finds nothing. I can't even terminate the process. I have to find out what pid number it is and terminate it with the 'kill <pid>' command. Has anyone managed to get this working? Is there some "magic" tweaking that I need to do? TIA, -Chuck

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Re: [Wlug] BBQ Stuff
by Clint Moyer July 25, 2007

July 25, 2007

http://www.nonstick.com/sounds/Miscellaneous/ltmi_028.wav ---- Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: ============= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eric Martin wrote: > my mistake > It is 6 PM on Thursday - the website it correct. I'll bring the penguin. See ya then! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGp8bLHl0iXDssISsRAhjEAJwPaWcvdJl3CZuN0ZYugQ9YIK48QgCeNfyf xUT7eJrJ+Co+GnR9BiNjT1o= =6zmU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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BBQ Stuff
by Eric Martin July 25, 2007

July 25, 2007

Ok, so far I have about 10 people RSVP'd as a yes. I'm hitting the grocery store tonight so please let me know if you haven't already. Also, if a few people could bring chairs that would be awesome, I only have 10 and I couldn't grab any more. Lastly, it's BYOB just so everyone knows, and I will have a cooler w/ice so we can keep stuff cold. See you tomorrow night at 7, right Andy? Eric

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Re: [Wlug] Anyone tried this laptop/know more about it?
by Clint Moyer July 25, 2007

July 25, 2007

Looks like the the $400 Acer I bought my wife at Microcenter which was a steal at that price. If you think you can get one from Sweden for $150, best of luck to you. Reading thru that site does not exactly inspire confidence. ---- Adam Keck <ghostis(a)gmail.com> wrote: ============= http://www.medisoncelebrity.com/product.html -Adam _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Any SQL-types out there? (more lab automation stuff)
by Stephen Daukas July 25, 2007

July 25, 2007

Good morning! In the continuing saga of automating various activities where I work, I have taken on processing data files. (Automating data upload is still somewhere in the air.)... This is rather simple in concept, but a bit less obvious in practice (aren't they all!): I would like to open up a CSV file and rearrange the columns according to a standardized order. Not every data file will have all of the standard columns (different probes collect different data), but column headers are standardized. So, I need to inspect each column header so that I can place it and its entire column of data into the proper position in the table, with empty columns inserted where needed to preserve the standard sequence of columns. In other words: A, D, C, G, H becomes A, [B], C, D, [E], [F], G, H where [ ] denote inserted empty columns There are literally hundreds of files of data in CSV format, and I intend to process each by itself, preserving the original, and creating a new "adjusted" file for the next step. (The next step would be to concatenate all files together for numeric processing.) Original files must be preserved (chain of custody requirements), so I am opening the file, selecting records using SQL, and am now ready to do the rearranging/writing to a new file... I didn't know if there is a "well known" SQL way of doing this (e.g., data manipulation statements of some sort), so I thought I'd see if any WLUGgers are also SQL-types. I have a few ideas for how to get this done, but they are "programmer-centric" algorithms, which tend to be different from "SQL-centric" algorithms... The reason for SQL is that I have to do this on a MS platform because that is the standard. But, if most of the real work is done in SQL, then I can easily move to another platform in the future and only have to change the "shell code". I am using VBscript as the "shell language" because it works with all MS apps and file system objects inclusive of CSV files. Thanks for any help!!! Best regards, Steve

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Anyone tried this laptop/know more about it?
by Adam Keck July 25, 2007

July 25, 2007

http://www.medisoncelebrity.com/product.html -Adam

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WLUG BBQ !!!
by Andy Stewart July 25, 2007

July 25, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, The WLUG BBQ is coming up fast: Date: Thursday, July 26th, 2007 Time: 6:00 PM Place: Eric Martin's house Address: 33 Lansing Avenue, Worcester, MA 01605 This is 2.5 miles from WPI. Look for the penguin! WLUG will supply burgers, dogs, munchies, soda, and the like. Thanks, Eric, for hosting the BBQ this year! See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGohpEHl0iXDssISsRAiXvAJ4qkWSBpHaGD/MTD9nWU5+/AW2wuwCeOQ5t 4K5LyUHbm0MeiNc/QX5PnG4= =JeTk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Thanks!
by Stephen Daukas July 25, 2007

July 25, 2007

Hi all! Thanks for all of the posts on "project management software"! They were helpful! Regards, Steve

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Hard drive configuration
by Michael Long July 25, 2007

July 25, 2007

I hope someone can point me in the right direction. I have a SuSE 9.3 system that was fully configured when I bought it. When looking at fstab the drives are configured as follows: /dev/sdb3 / reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 1 /dev/sdb1 /boot reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 2 /dev/sda1 /raid reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/sdb2 swap swap pri=42 0 0 I downloaded OpenSuSE 10.2 and attempted to upgrade the system. When running either an upgrade or new install it tells me that /dev/sda3 is defined as /dev/sdb3 in fstab. Bottom line when I install opensuse 10.2 it sees my raid as sdb and the system is currently setup to have it as sda. I do not understand why my current configuration is the opposite of what a new install is finding. Where do I go from here?

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Re: [Wlug] WLUG BBQ !!!
by James P. Gray July 24, 2007

July 24, 2007

I have no idea how many people might come. Maybe 30? Is someone taking RSVPs? If your main goal is to advance your knowledge in Linux you may find it more worth your while to attend a regular meeting then the BBQ. During regular meetings we cover specific topics or have free ranging discussions. My understanding is that the BBQ is more of a social event for the group. Someone correct me if I am wrong. kstratton(a)fastmail.us wrote: > I recently joined the mailing list to get an idea of how active this > group is. Perhaps somebody can provide an approximate number of > expected participants for this meeting? If I go (I am thinking about > it...), I would have to take a 1/2 day off from work and drive from > Connecticut. I am looking for an active group that provides an > environment to accelerate my learning with Linux to hopefully reach a > point of learning where it could be enjoyable to contribute back to some > open source project or another. > > I am running Gentoo, so I am not a COMPLETE newbe. > >

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Democracy Player - Miro
by Joe Riopel July 18, 2007

July 18, 2007

Hi, I am not sure how many of your are/were familiar with the Democracy media player, but they have recently changed the name to Miro (http://www.getmiro.com/) The reason I am posting it here is that some of the core people working on that project are from right here in glorious Worcester. Joe

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greetings
by rwaka jude July 12, 2007

July 12, 2007

Hello to you all am Rwaka Jude a University student at kigali institute of science and technology (KIST) in central Africa. i have had interest in joining fellow student students in your linux users group due to the fact that am aslo interested and writting my dissertation in a linux environment so i thought of joing groups like yours to see if we can exchange ideas and opinions. My project is: SETTING UP A WEB BASED EMAIL SYSTEM RUNNING ON A LINUX SERVER USING SQUIRREL MAIL; Am hoping to hear from you if you could love to entertain students in your group. otherwise wish all the best of luck and looking forward to hearing from your committee. Regards Jude Rwaka --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.

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Getting your mom on Linux?
by Mike Perry July 11, 2007

July 11, 2007

Hi all, I visited my parents yesterday and yet again my mother's computer is filled with spyware. Everytime I go there it is slower and slower and odd things keep happening (like icons disappearing ... I've witnessed this myself). I've been considering trying to get her onto Kubuntu, but I have a few valid concerns. I'm curious if anyone has any experience with the following under Linux (any flavor): * Citrix connectivity -- She currently, and very seldom, uses an ActiveX control in IE to connect to her work. Are there alternatives besides using IE and Wine or running a VM? * iPod which is currently registered with her Windows box. I'm not too familiar with this, because my mp3 is not an iPod. * Printing - She currently has a very nice Canon i960 which can print photos. I less concerned about drivers and more about functionality. Her current Windows based software can print wallets, 8x10s, etc very easily. I wouldn't want her to lose that ability. I know some of these answers might be a Google away, but I'm curious on your experiences with this and possibility any other gothcya's that I am not thinking about. If I could overcome these hurdles I think she would actually have a much pleasant experience with her home pc. I've slowly been getting her to adopt open source software, but this would be a big jump. I also think it would be much easier for me help remotely too. Cheers, Mike

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Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux?
by Mike Leo July 5, 2007

July 5, 2007

tsclient is a front end to rdesktop. Also, there is an official Citrix client for linux. you could also give her a liveCD and see how many objections you get. I gave my dad linux 3 or 4 years ago now and he's never looked back. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike Perry <mwp(a)sdf.lonestar.org> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2007 2:55:42 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux? I think tsclient is just a front end to: http://bin-false.org/?p=13 That may be an option depending on how her work has Citrix configured. Rdesktop just makes a reference to ICA. I think the harddrive idea is actually pretty good (if I had a spare drive :) At least this way I could test these scenarios. I really don't have much experience with iPods though. I know they have some kind of DRM -- I am pretty certain I can get it working with Amarok, but what I am not clear on is how it associates the music to account. Even if we rebuilt her Windows computer it may pose a DRM problem. I hate DRM. Anyone have any insight? On another note... I am pretty confident that modern Linux distro's can hold up a novice computer user like my mother. Primarily she uses her computer for casual web surfing and email. She is already using Firefox and Thunderbird -- so if I show her the icons she will know what to do. ~Mike > On Thursday 05 July 2007 1:43:44 pm Andre Lehovich wrote: > > --- Mike Perry <mwp(a)sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > > > * Citrix connectivity -- She currently, and very seldom, uses an > > > ActiveX control in IE to connect to her work. Are there alternatives > > > besides using IE and Wine or running a VM? > > > > $ apt-cache search citrix > > tsclient - front-end for viewing of remote desktops in GNOME > > rdesktop - RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server > > > > The web equivalent: > > http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=citrix > > > > VNC also works for connecting between different operating systems. > > > > --Andre > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > >__ _________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux?
by Mike Perry July 5, 2007

July 5, 2007

I think tsclient is just a front end to: http://bin-false.org/?p=13 That may be an option depending on how her work has Citrix configured. Rdesktop just makes a reference to ICA. I think the harddrive idea is actually pretty good (if I had a spare drive :) At least this way I could test these scenarios. I really don't have much experience with iPods though. I know they have some kind of DRM -- I am pretty certain I can get it working with Amarok, but what I am not clear on is how it associates the music to account. Even if we rebuilt her Windows computer it may pose a DRM problem. I hate DRM. Anyone have any insight? On another note... I am pretty confident that modern Linux distro's can hold up a novice computer user like my mother. Primarily she uses her computer for casual web surfing and email. She is already using Firefox and Thunderbird -- so if I show her the icons she will know what to do. ~Mike > On Thursday 05 July 2007 1:43:44 pm Andre Lehovich wrote: > > --- Mike Perry <mwp(a)sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > > > * Citrix connectivity -- She currently, and very seldom, uses an > > > ActiveX control in IE to connect to her work. Are there alternatives > > > besides using IE and Wine or running a VM? > > > > $ apt-cache search citrix > > tsclient - front-end for viewing of remote desktops in GNOME > > rdesktop - RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server > > > > The web equivalent: > > http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=citrix > > > > VNC also works for connecting between different operating systems. > > > > --Andre > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > >__ _________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux?IO
by Mike Perry July 5, 2007

July 5, 2007

Good suggestion, but I don't think my mother would understand the concept of dual-booting. She would probably just end up booting into Widnows and not switching -- or I would get phone calls all day saying "I am in Linux again I don't know how I got here". ~Mike > > On Thursday 05 July 2007 12:37:23 pm Jamie Guinan wrote: <snip> > > > > > > This sounds like a good time to upgrade her hard drive. Put a new, > > > larger drive in her computer and install Kubuntu onto that. Try > > > everything out, and if something doesn't work, put the old drive back > > > in until you can figure out a solution. > > > > Or put in the 2nd hard drive and leave the 1st one in there, and set > > it up to dual-boot. She can still boot Windows to do her Citrix > > stuff, and she can use Linux for web surfing (no spyware), and you can > > try migrating iPod/printing/etc. over time. > > > > -Jamie > > > > > I'd answer your specific questions if I knew the answers. > > > > > > -- > > > Rich > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux?
by Jamie Guinan July 5, 2007

July 5, 2007

On Thu, 5 Jul 2007, Klein, Richard wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Perry > > > > Hi all, > > > > I visited my parents yesterday and yet again my mother's > > computer is filled with spyware. Everytime I go there it is > > slower and slower and odd things keep happening (like icons > > disappearing ... I've witnessed this myself). > > > > I've been considering trying to get her onto Kubuntu, but I > > have a few valid concerns. I'm curious if anyone has any > > experience with the following under Linux (any flavor): > > > > * Citrix connectivity -- She currently, and very seldom, > > uses an ActiveX control in IE to connect to her work. Are > > there alternatives besides using IE and Wine or running a VM? > > > > * iPod which is currently registered with her Windows box. > > I'm not too familiar with this, because my mp3 is not an iPod. > > > > * Printing - She currently has a very nice Canon i960 which > > can print photos. > > I less concerned about drivers and more about functionality. > > Her current Windows based software can print wallets, 8x10s, > > etc very easily. I wouldn't want her to lose that ability. > > > > I know some of these answers might be a Google away, but I'm > > curious on your experiences with this and possibility any > > other gothcya's that I am not thinking about. > > > > If I could overcome these hurdles I think she would actually > > have a much pleasant experience with her home pc. I've slowly > > been getting her to adopt open source software, but this > > would be a big jump. I also think it would be much easier for > > me help remotely too. > > This sounds like a good time to upgrade her hard drive. Put a new, > larger drive in her computer and install Kubuntu onto that. Try > everything out, and if something doesn't work, put the old drive back in > until you can figure out a solution. Or put in the 2nd hard drive and leave the 1st one in there, and set it up to dual-boot. She can still boot Windows to do her Citrix stuff, and she can use Linux for web surfing (no spyware), and you can try migrating iPod/printing/etc. over time. -Jamie > I'd answer your specific questions if I knew the answers. > > -- > Rich > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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JOB - Implementation Engineer (Boston, MA)
by Tal Cohen June 30, 2007

June 30, 2007

I forgot to provide the company information, here it is: Company Name: SiteSpect, Inc (www.sitespect.com) Position: Implementation Engineer Location: Boston, MA Tal

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JOB - Implementation Engineer (Boston, MA)
by Tal Cohen June 30, 2007

June 30, 2007

Hi Folks, The company that I work for has just opened a position that some of you may be interested in. The description is listed below. For the right person, this can be a dream job. Feel free to email me with any questions about the position or the company. Here is the position: The Implementation Engineer is a technical product expert who installs, configures and supports SiteSpect's software and appliance products. This is a technical position that requires knowledge of Unix systems management, Web applications, and networking/DNS. Although a technical position, the Implementation Engineer wears many customer-facing hats. Candidates should be able to demonstrate a history of working with both technical (IT) and non-technical (business and marketing) stakeholders to define requirements, plan projects, and ultimately deliver technical solutions. Excellent writing and verbal communication skills are a necessity. Required technical skills include: * Web server configuration, tuning & administration * Linux/Unix administration * shell scripting such as bash, Perl, python or PHP * knowledge of DNS, networking and load balancing Roles also include scheduled on-call duty and occasional travel to assist customers with installation and system maintenance. Candidates should have experience working in a team environment alongside other engineers and product managers. You should be comfortable with the dynamic and fast pace that is typical for an Internet software startup. This is a full time position located in our office in downtown Boston, MA. We are minutes away from Park Street MBTA stop, central to all subway and commuter rail lines. If this sounds like you, then SiteSpect might be your next home. As the company that leads its market space in power and innovation, we guarantee excitement, challenge and an unlimited opportunity to contribute. Tal

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Unix admin opening
by Frank Sweetser June 21, 2007

June 21, 2007

We now return you to your regularly scheduled boringly relevant job postings. WPI is looking for a unix administrator. Standard complement of skills required, mostly RHEL systems, some HPC clustering administration, and a fair bit of Windows interop stuff. http://www.wpi.edu/cgi-bin/HR/New/showjob.cgi?job_type=AE&job_id=441 Feel free to send a resume either to HR directly, or to me and I'll pass it along through the inside channel. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

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Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
by albutler33＠netscape.net June 21, 2007

June 21, 2007

Re: Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters problem Andy, b) Any recruiter who abuses the list by failing to ask permission prior to posting, or by an excessive volume of emails, will be asked to stop (including removal from the membership list if necessary). How would you define excessive? Al Butler -----Original Message----- From: wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:19 am Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 44, Issue 10 Send Wlug mailing list submissions to wlug(a)mail.wlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA (Tal Cohen) 2. Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters (Andy Stewart) 3. Re: Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters (Andy Stewart) 4. Re: Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters (Chuck Anderson) 5. Re: JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA (Mark Richards) 6. Re: Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters (Andy Stewart) 7. Re: Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters (Mike Leo) 8. Re: Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters (Andy Stewart) 9. Re: JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA (Keith Wright) Attached Message From: Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> To: 'Jamie Guinan' <guinan(a)bluebutton.com>; 'Worcester Linux Users Group' <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Subject: Re: [Wlug] JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:12:46 -0400 So, here is a question: What are the guidelines for posting a relevant job opening to this group? My reason for asking is because the company that I work for is about to open a few reqs, and I want to get the bounty :) Seriously (although I do want the bounty), the positions will be appropriate for the group. Thanks, Tal -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Guinan Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 4:59 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA > The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s= > ) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or pr= > ivileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use o= > f, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or= > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received = > this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the e= > mail from any computer. Delete the email... from *any* computer? "Pardon me Fred, I need to borrow your PC for a few minutes..." -Jamie _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Attached Message From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Subject: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:00:53 -0400 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, Tal Cohen wrote: > So, here is a question: What are the guidelines for > posting a relevant job > opening to this group? This is a very good question! In general, I personally frown upon random recruiters posting job openings on the WLUG mailing list, especially when they don't have the courtesy of asking permission. Having the list as writable only by list members helps to keep this type of email traffic minimized. However, there have been a couple of recruiters in the past who asked permission prior to posting, which I did grant (John Spencer is one such individual). I specifically asked John to preface his subject with "JOB" or "JOBS" so people could filter accordingly, and he has done what was asked. Also, John's posts have been very Linux relevant IMHO. In the interest of fair disclosure, I've worked with John in the past and my employer has hired people represented by him. I have also had recruiters send the job posting to me, asking me to forward it to the list. If relevant, I forward the post, but sometimes I have deleted them if I thought they were not relevant. Having said all of that, I recognize that this mailing list belongs to all of us and not just to me. At any time, we as a group can choose to change our policy. Admittedly, even if every recruiter who posted asked permission and used the "JOB" subject, the volume of email could become more than we'd like. To date, this has not happened. I have not yet heard anybody complain about a group member posting a relevant job opening for their employer. In today's particular case, I suspect that if the recruiter were informed of our policy, he would be happy to comply. Although it is our email list, how we react on the list is a reflection of the group as a whole. In summary, I propose the following for your consideration: a) Recruiters who wish to post to the WLUG mailing list need to request permission to do so, and if granted, preface the subject with "JOB" so people can filter accordingly. As acting president, I presume that the permission would be granted by me. b) Any recruiter who abuses the list by failing to ask permission prior to posting, or by an excessive volume of emails, will be asked to stop (including removal from the membership list if necessary). c) Group members may post relevant job openings as long as they preface the subject with "JOB". I invite constructive discussion on the proposal, and counter proposals if appropriate. Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGdxy1Hl0iXDssISsRAuEzAJ9BjH5OEKb2KczS2uST4Y1F4p0VSACcDbNf SShrPI1odk0K9WH68GLiSBA= =jOVI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Attached Message From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:23:39 -0400 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andy Stewart wrote: > In summary, I propose the following for your consideration: > > a) Recruiters who wish to post to the WLUG mailing list need to request > permission to do so, and if granted, preface the subject with "JOB" so > people can filter accordingly. As acting president, I presume that the > permission would be granted by me. I just thought of something. When a person who is not a list member attempts to post a message to the group, the email is sent to the list moderator for approval. This is currently Frank Sweetser (and I think Chuck Anderson, also). In the event that a recruiter attempts to post without first becoming a group member, I have full trust in the list moderator's judgment to implement our group policy. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGdyILHl0iXDssISsRAgNmAJsGz/nTV+HCanWwh3V/ZZQ38r7M/QCfZXtD GuE/sWwnwCdq4pIDU7/k4LQ= =UUDG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Attached Message From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:25:44 -0400 On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:23:39PM -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: > In the event that a recruiter attempts to post without first becoming a > group member, I have full trust in the list moderator's judgment to > implement our group policy. The problem in this case was that the user subscribed to the list, and then immediately sent the JOB posting. So he was already a "group member". Attached Message From: Mark Richards <mark.richards(a)massmicro.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Subject: Re: [Wlug] JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:13:04 -0400 Tal Cohen wrote:? > So, here is a question: What are the guidelines for posting a relevant job? > opening to this group? My guess is that policy need not be set if participants would exercise basic courtesy: ask first.? ? You did that. Good show.? ? /m? ? ? Attached Message From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:42:22 -0400 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:23:39PM -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: >> In the event that a recruiter attempts to post without first becoming a >> group member, I have full trust in the list moderator's judgment to >> implement our group policy. > > The problem in this case was that the user subscribed to the list, and > then immediately sent the JOB posting. So he was already a "group > member". Yes, and I have a couple of thoughts on that. 1) I believe this is the first time a recruiter has done this, but I could be wrong. 2) We as a group have every right to determine what is acceptable email on the list. In my opinion, if any group member abuses the list, they should be first asked to stop and then have their privileges revoked if they continue to abuse the list. The post did mention Linux, it did have "JOB" in the subject, however, the recruiter did not ask permission to use our list. Is that sufficient cause for immediate revocation from the list? Perhaps so, perhaps not - you tell me. I don't recall anybody asking this particular recruiter to stop doing what he did. We should revoke with care. If done harshly, it could damage the group reputation. 3) I opened the topic for discussion because I want to be sure that folks who are normally less vocal on the group mailing list have a chance to air their opinions. 4) The end result of these discussions should be posted on the website as a group policy so guests to our mailing list will understand what we expect of them. Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGdyZuHl0iXDssISsRAqF1AJwKnQMShnVbgX0A1x5ebbL3pUcESACfTn0H pQOtgCZU7i/Zbd/muSg7r20= =2oDQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Attached Message From: Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Does a job posting really warrant this much discussion? I know I haven't participated much lately, but the emails discussing the spam job posting have been more spam-like than the original possible spam posting. spamspamspamspamspamspamspameggsspam. Anyway, I also posted a job posting earlier today.? Hope I did not break the rules. Mike ----- Original Message ---- From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:25:44 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:23:39PM -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: > In the event that a recruiter attempts to post without first becoming a > group member, I have full trust in the list moderator's judgment to > implement our group policy. The problem in this case was that the user subscribed to the list, and then immediately sent the JOB posting.??So he was already a "group member". _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Attached Message From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:51:44 -0400 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike Leo wrote: > Does a job posting really warrant this much discussion? Hi Mike, Normally, no, but this subject has come up before, and I'd like to settle it. > > I know I haven't participated much lately, but the emails discussing the > spam job posting have been more spam-like than the original possible > spam posting. > > spamspamspamspamspamspamspameggsspam. > > Anyway, I also posted a job posting earlier today. Hope I did not break > the rules. I had no problem with your post. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGdyigHl0iXDssISsRAjjaAJ4hUy5DyPm+W+KMaIlIPZGWFgCWKQCeKB0N jLDlWHyrQIYtUo2Cz8+qMn8= =WdEA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Attached Message From: Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:12:08 -0400 > From: "Tal Cohen" <wlug(a)cohen123.com> > > What are the guidelines for posting > a relevant job opening to this group? Don't be a lamer. I am tempted to leave it there. True Lamers will never know who they are, but here are some guides to How To Be A Lamer. 1. Never come to a meeting. 2. Subscribe to the list for the sole purpose of posting your advertisement. 3. Fail the Turing Test by using cliches to indicate that your message was auto-generated by a computer or marketing manager. 4. Do not write any introductory remarks that might show your message is intended for the WLUG list, rather than every list in known space. There are, of course, many other possible lame actions. Note that I have no actual power over any list messages other than my own, and so my opinions are worthless except in so far as others agree with them. -- Keith _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

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Recommendation for Project Management freeware?
by Stephen Daukas June 21, 2007

June 21, 2007

Morning all! Before I download a few bazillian freeware apps to look at, I was wondering if anyone has experience with and a recommendation for a freeware alternative to MS Project? I would like both Gantt and PERT with critical path and milestones... This is primarily for keeping track of the flow and status of a bunch of projects (where are we, what comes next, what is holding up the works, etc.), and for tasks within a project. Drill down from a multiple project view (PERT) to a single project, to tasks with a project (Gantt) would be very cool, especially given senior management is visually oriented. ;-) Alternatives to "project management" apps based on the above are welcome (I'm not sure where the process automation/workflow tools business is these days, but if you have something you like, let me know...). Being able to generate web-based content would be brilliant! Then I could say "go to this URL and click away!" Thanks in advance! Steve

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Ubuntu switch user & screen lock
by Bill Mills-Curran June 20, 2007

June 20, 2007

I'm running Ubuntu Feisty Fawn. I've recently used the "switch user" option to log in without logging my son out. However, after logging out of my account, the screen is locked for my son, and his login password will not unlock the screen. Anyone else seen this? TiA, Bill

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Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
by Jamie Guinan June 19, 2007

June 19, 2007

My $0.02... I think the mailing list should be like the meetings - if someone at a meeting says "hey, $COMPANY has this opening doing Linux sysadmin/programming/etc.", great. But if some random recruiter walks into the room without any introductions and starts blabbing about jobs and how great his company is, I imagine they'd be told where to go. In any case (and to kick a dead horse from a few months ago), I think all job postings should be open to satire. If you're a recruiter and you post something that looks like an obvious death march[1], be prepared to have the euphemistic recruiter-speak appropriatly analyzed and made fun of. >:) -Jamie [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_march_(software_development)

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Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
by Andy Stewart June 19, 2007

June 19, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, Tal Cohen wrote: > So, here is a question: What are the guidelines for > posting a relevant job > opening to this group? This is a very good question! In general, I personally frown upon random recruiters posting job openings on the WLUG mailing list, especially when they don't have the courtesy of asking permission. Having the list as writable only by list members helps to keep this type of email traffic minimized. However, there have been a couple of recruiters in the past who asked permission prior to posting, which I did grant (John Spencer is one such individual). I specifically asked John to preface his subject with "JOB" or "JOBS" so people could filter accordingly, and he has done what was asked. Also, John's posts have been very Linux relevant IMHO. In the interest of fair disclosure, I've worked with John in the past and my employer has hired people represented by him. I have also had recruiters send the job posting to me, asking me to forward it to the list. If relevant, I forward the post, but sometimes I have deleted them if I thought they were not relevant. Having said all of that, I recognize that this mailing list belongs to all of us and not just to me. At any time, we as a group can choose to change our policy. Admittedly, even if every recruiter who posted asked permission and used the "JOB" subject, the volume of email could become more than we'd like. To date, this has not happened. I have not yet heard anybody complain about a group member posting a relevant job opening for their employer. In today's particular case, I suspect that if the recruiter were informed of our policy, he would be happy to comply. Although it is our email list, how we react on the list is a reflection of the group as a whole. In summary, I propose the following for your consideration: a) Recruiters who wish to post to the WLUG mailing list need to request permission to do so, and if granted, preface the subject with "JOB" so people can filter accordingly. As acting president, I presume that the permission would be granted by me. b) Any recruiter who abuses the list by failing to ask permission prior to posting, or by an excessive volume of emails, will be asked to stop (including removal from the membership list if necessary). c) Group members may post relevant job openings as long as they preface the subject with "JOB". I invite constructive discussion on the proposal, and counter proposals if appropriate. Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGdxy1Hl0iXDssISsRAuEzAJ9BjH5OEKb2KczS2uST4Y1F4p0VSACcDbNf SShrPI1odk0K9WH68GLiSBA= =jOVI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
by Frank Sweetser June 19, 2007

June 19, 2007

My thoughts on the whole incident revolve around the fact that more than anything else, WLUG - including the mailing list - is a community explicitly defined as a place where linux enthusiasts can get together. The whole topic of job postings is already a little bit of a grey area, but so far they'd all been either posted directly by people in WLUG, or sent to Andy and relayed to the list. This has worked at least well enough that nobody complained. In this case, however, things went differently. The user quite obviously went through the trouble of signing up for the mailing list with the sole purpose of being able to send an email that was part job posting and part recruiter advertisement. This, in my mind (and quite a few others, based on the responses) crossed over the line. There are plenty of well established sites online for employers and employees to look for each other, and I doubt that anyone in this group would have any trouble finding them. So far it hasn't been an issue, but I would hate to see the signal in the mailing list get diluted with the noise of recruiters. If this comes up much more, I 'd vote for either relegating job postings to a dedicated page on the web site, or just banning them alltogether, depending on how the rest of the group feels. Your humble list moderator, Frank

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Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
by Clint Moyer June 19, 2007

June 19, 2007

I don't feel there's a need to ban job postings altogether. Andy's method seems more than reasonable, though I'd suggest that ANY such posting get the go-ahead from Andy or Frank regardless of the poster's tenure here. I can't think of a reason why such a requirement would be objectionable to anyone. Clint ---- Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: ============= My thoughts on the whole incident revolve around the fact that more than anything else, WLUG - including the mailing list - is a community explicitly defined as a place where linux enthusiasts can get together. The whole topic of job postings is already a little bit of a grey area, but so far they'd all been either posted directly by people in WLUG, or sent to Andy and relayed to the list. This has worked at least well enough that nobody complained. In this case, however, things went differently. The user quite obviously went through the trouble of signing up for the mailing list with the sole purpose of being able to send an email that was part job posting and part recruiter advertisement. This, in my mind (and quite a few others, based on the responses) crossed over the line. There are plenty of well established sites online for employers and employees to look for each other, and I doubt that anyone in this group would have any trouble finding them. So far it hasn't been an issue, but I would hate to see the signal in the mailing list get diluted with the noise of recruiters. If this comes up much more, I 'd vote for either relegating job postings to a dedicated page on the web site, or just banning them alltogether, depending on how the rest of the group feels. Your humble list moderator, Frank _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA
by Jamie Guinan June 19, 2007

June 19, 2007

> The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s= > ) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or pr= > ivileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use o= > f, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or= > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received = > this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the e= > mail from any computer. Delete the email... from *any* computer? "Pardon me Fred, I need to borrow your PC for a few minutes..." -Jamie

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Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters
by Mike Leo June 19, 2007

June 19, 2007

Does a job posting really warrant this much discussion? I know I haven't participated much lately, but the emails discussing the spam job posting have been more spam-like than the original possible spam posting. spamspamspamspamspamspamspameggsspam. Anyway, I also posted a job posting earlier today. Hope I did not break the rules. Mike ----- Original Message ---- From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:25:44 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Discussion: Email list policy for recruiters On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:23:39PM -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: > In the event that a recruiter attempts to post without first becoming a > group member, I have full trust in the list moderator's judgment to > implement our group policy. The problem in this case was that the user subscribed to the list, and then immediately sent the JOB posting. So he was already a "group member". _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA
by Ross Hecox June 18, 2007

June 18, 2007

We reach more people than Google. Thought that would get your attention. Advertising.com is one of the most successful companies in online advertising and we're looking for someone just like you to help take our company to the next level. Advertising.com has an immediate opening for a Senior Operations Engineer in our Boston, MA office. Interested? Read on to find out more and apply. "So it's a great place to work, but what exactly do you do?" Born and bread in Baltimore, Advertising.com reaches more people each month than Google, Yahoo! and MSN. How? We buy up ad space from sites all around the Web and sell it to advertisers in aggregate - using very sophisticated technologies and solutions to match advertisements to ad space. The Senior Operations Engineer will be responsible for day-to-day monitoring, troubleshooting and maintaining our highly available, 24x7 (99.999%) hosting infrastructure for our Third Screen Media group in Boston, MA. The position will be responsible for the design and build out of performance enhancements, security, and capacity expansion. This individual will be committed, well organized, attentive to detail and an exceptional communicator: This position will interface not only with development, but with program management, documentation and release engineering. ESSENTIAL PERSONAL AND OPERATING VALUES: * Goal driven. Highly communicative. Technology curious. * High work ethic and driven to ensure maximum uptime and performance. * Works well with other departments including engineering , client services and program management. * Knowledge and operational experience with a Unix based, enterprise-class multi-tenant hosted solution.. * Monitor the health, capacity and performance of a high availability, high traffic environment - ensuring the environment is operating optimally and at peak efficiency. * Vigilantly and quickly act as second level support and manage incidents until resolved; develop solutions, proactively communicate with other team members and customers. * Contribute to planning efforts for disaster recovery, capacity expansion, component upgrading and system hardening * Work with Program Management and Engineering to determine QA paths for upcoming releases. * Coordinate the production releases between the various organizations for scheduling and deployment. * Capable of defining and running projects from concept to delivery. * Learn fast, work independently, and handle multiple simultaneous projects. * Provide support documentation, including procedural documentation; QUALIFICATIONS * 5-7 years of experience in working in multi tenant hosted environment * Working knowledge of Linux, SAN, servers/databases, WAN, firewalls, load balancers and SQL architecture. * Excellent writing and verbal communications skills. * Strong analytical, problem solving and organizational skills with the ability to discuss technical issues with non-technical colleagues. * Effective when working under pressure and delivering to high standards within tight deadlines. * Experience with J2EE systems * Comfort with Windows XP, Macintosh and UNIX environments * Previous experience working in a fast-paced start-up environment * In depth understanding of enterprise and/or ASP systems and how to evaluate performance and stability across these systems. * Detailed knowledge of real-time systems, databases and performance. * Strong background in supporting a 7X24 production environment. EDUCATION and/or EXPERIENCE: * BA/BS in computer science or technical related field. * Experience in technical documentation would be considered a plus * Experience in testing and performance labs would be considered a plus Please apply directly at www.advertising.com/careers.php<http://www.advertising.com/careers.php> Engineer II, Operations TSM Ross Hecox Sr. Technical Recruiter Advertising.com 1020 Hull Street, 2nd Floor Baltimore, MD 21230 Phone: 410.244.1370 x11544 Fax: 410.454.0369 rhecox(a)advertising.com<mailto:rhecox@advertising.com> Wanna cool place to work? Check us out at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwzE_QyM6UU D.O.T. - Discover Outstanding Talent ________________________________ The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer.

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Re: [Wlug] JOB - Senior Operations Engineer - Boston, MA
by Clint Moyer June 18, 2007

June 18, 2007

Who invited this guy? ---- Ross Hecox <rhecox(a)advertising.com> wrote: ============= We reach more people than Google. Thought that would get your attention. Advertising.com is one of the most successful companies in online advertising and we're looking for someone just like you to help take our company to the next level. Advertising.com has an immediate opening for a Senior Operations Engineer in our Boston, MA office. Interested? Read on to find out more and apply. "So it's a great place to work, but what exactly do you do?" Born and bread in Baltimore, Advertising.com reaches more people each month than Google, Yahoo! and MSN. How? We buy up ad space from sites all around the Web and sell it to advertisers in aggregate - using very sophisticated technologies and solutions to match advertisements to ad space. The Senior Operations Engineer will be responsible for day-to-day monitoring, troubleshooting and maintaining our highly available, 24x7 (99.999%) hosting infrastructure for our Third Screen Media group in Boston, MA. The position will be responsible for the design and build out of performance enhancements, security, and capacity expansion. This individual will be committed, well organized, attentive to detail and an exceptional communicator: This position will interface not only with development, but with program management, documentation and release engineering. ESSENTIAL PERSONAL AND OPERATING VALUES: * Goal driven. Highly communicative. Technology curious. * High work ethic and driven to ensure maximum uptime and performance. * Works well with other departments including engineering , client services and program management. * Knowledge and operational experience with a Unix based, enterprise-class multi-tenant hosted solution.. * Monitor the health, capacity and performance of a high availability, high traffic environment - ensuring the environment is operating optimally and at peak efficiency. * Vigilantly and quickly act as second level support and manage incidents until resolved; develop solutions, proactively communicate with other team members and customers. * Contribute to planning efforts for disaster recovery, capacity expansion, component upgrading and system hardening * Work with Program Management and Engineering to determine QA paths for upcoming releases. * Coordinate the production releases between the various organizations for scheduling and deployment. * Capable of defining and running projects from concept to delivery. * Learn fast, work independently, and handle multiple simultaneous projects. * Provide support documentation, including procedural documentation; QUALIFICATIONS * 5-7 years of experience in working in multi tenant hosted environment * Working knowledge of Linux, SAN, servers/databases, WAN, firewalls, load balancers and SQL architecture. * Excellent writing and verbal communications skills. * Strong analytical, problem solving and organizational skills with the ability to discuss technical issues with non-technical colleagues. * Effective when working under pressure and delivering to high standards within tight deadlines. * Experience with J2EE systems * Comfort with Windows XP, Macintosh and UNIX environments * Previous experience working in a fast-paced start-up environment * In depth understanding of enterprise and/or ASP systems and how to evaluate performance and stability across these systems. * Detailed knowledge of real-time systems, databases and performance. * Strong background in supporting a 7X24 production environment. EDUCATION and/or EXPERIENCE: * BA/BS in computer science or technical related field. * Experience in technical documentation would be considered a plus * Experience in testing and performance labs would be considered a plus Please apply directly at www.advertising.com/careers.php<http://www.advertising.com/careers.php> Engineer II, Operations TSM Ross Hecox Sr. Technical Recruiter Advertising.com 1020 Hull Street, 2nd Floor Baltimore, MD 21230 Phone: 410.244.1370 x11544 Fax: 410.454.0369 rhecox(a)advertising.com<mailto:rhecox@advertising.com> Wanna cool place to work? Check us out at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwzE_QyM6UU D.O.T. - Discover Outstanding Talent ________________________________ The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer.

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Job posting
by Mike Leo June 18, 2007

June 18, 2007

Although they have already filled my old job, it looks like they are hiring another linux admin: Linux Engineer, Wellesley The Linux Engineer will be responsible for the daily administration of the Linux environment. Project work including installation, configuration and post support of Linux servers, primarily RedHat. Support evaluation and testing of Susu Linux and security products. Support Oracle on Linux including databases, applications and RAC. 4-6 years experience working with Linux environments in an enterprise setting a must. If you are interested email me off-list at mleo963(a)yahoo.com

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Screen goes blank with ubuntu and geforce 8800 GTS.
by Kieran O'Callaghan June 17, 2007

June 17, 2007

I have system I just put together with a PCI-Express Geforce 8800 GTS running ubuntu 7.04. During installation of Ubuntu everything showed up fine on screen. After installation, I ran into the problem that right after grub starts loading linux, the screen goes blank (monitor light turns from green to amber) and stays that way right up until X loads, at which point I get video. This hasn't been a problem so far, but I just installed some updates and it seems like now X isn't loading or I'm getting some sort of message before X loads, because it turns on and just stays blank the whole time. It seems like it would be easy if I just put a different video card into the system, but I don't even have another PCI express video card. I also don't have any PCI video cards anymore. All I have are AGP cards and the system doesn't have an AGP slot. So, it looks like taking the hard drive out and moving it to another system is the only option. Any thoughts on why the screen is doing that would be appreciated. The monitor doesn't seem to be getting no signal, because normally it brings up a message saying no signal rather than just blanking. It seems more like it's gone into a power saving mode. I've tried it with other monitors and had the same results. -- Kieran O'Callaghan

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Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting this evening 7:00 PM
by freak4uxxx＠gmail.com June 14, 2007

June 14, 2007

i've palyed with it once or twice. Two heads are better than one, right? -Eric -----Original Message----- From: "Klein, Richard" <Richard.Klein(a)cytyc.com> Subj: Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting this evening 7:00 PM Date: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:58 pm Size: 887 bytes To: "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Stewart > > HI gang, > > I completely forgot that we have a WLUG meeting this evening > (Thursday, June 14th) at 7:00 PM. My apologies for not > updating the website or sending the normal reminder email. > > Let's get together and chat about our favorite subject - > Linux! We always find some way to entertain ourselves for an > hour or so before heading off to the pizza restaurant. > > I'll see you tonight. > > Andy I'm not sure if I'll make it tonight, but if I do, is anyone familiar with RoadNav (http://roadnav.sourceforge.net/)? I have it installed on my laptop, but I don't really know my way around the program yet, and I'd love to have someone show me what I can do with it. -- Rich Klein _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Reminder: Meeting this evening 7:00 PM
by Andy Stewart June 14, 2007

June 14, 2007

HI gang, I completely forgot that we have a WLUG meeting this evening (Thursday, June 14th) at 7:00 PM. My apologies for not updating the website or sending the normal reminder email. Let's get together and chat about our favorite subject - Linux! We always find some way to entertain ourselves for an hour or so before heading off to the pizza restaurant. I'll see you tonight. Andy -- Andy Stewart Advanced Micro Devices Boston Design Center 90 Central St. MS 83-29 Boxborough, MA 01719 (978) 795-2669

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Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting this evening 7:00 PM
by freak4uxxx＠gmail.com June 14, 2007

June 14, 2007

I was gonna ask.... -Eric -----Original Message----- From: "Andy Stewart" <andy.stewart(a)amd.com> Subj: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting this evening 7:00 PM Date: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:58 am Size: 646 bytes To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org HI gang, I completely forgot that we have a WLUG meeting this evening (Thursday, June 14th) at 7:00 PM. My apologies for not updating the website or sending the normal reminder email. Let's get together and chat about our favorite subject - Linux! We always find some way to entertain ourselves for an hour or so before heading off to the pizza restaurant. I'll see you tonight. Andy -- Andy Stewart Advanced Micro Devices Boston Design Center 90 Central St. MS 83-29 Boxborough, MA 01719 (978) 795-2669 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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JOBS - Linux drivers consulting roles
by John Spencer June 11, 2007

June 11, 2007

We have a couple of clients here in MA looking for Linux consulting help. Details are as follows: Mid to Sr level Linux drivers Engineer Linux driver development contract for 9+ months in embedded development team. Job responsibilities include learning hardware from hardware design specs, developing a design and documenting it, developing the design, and debugging the driver in an embedded environment. Preferred candidate would have 3-6 years of Linux driver development. DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES include the following: Focus will be on design and development of 2.6 Linux kernel drivers for proprietary FPGAs and some 3rd party parts like Ethernet switches. Experience developing Linux drivers in an embedded environment. Experience developing Linux drivers in Linux 2.6.current kernel is preferred but 2.4 is acceptable. Experience with PowerPC or processors Experience debugging Linux drivers. Able to work with current team members including kernel, driver, and application disciplines. Good oral and written communication skills. ************************************************************************ ************* Sr to Prin Level consultant (6 mths) Our Client is looking for a Linux Engineer to port their existing systems software platform (drivers, BSP's, kernel, applications) from 2.4 to 2.6 Linux. This effort has just started and and THEY have the kernel up and running (bash shell). Will upgrade the existing build infrastructure for loadable kernel modules to comply with Linux kbuild. Port existing loadable kernel modules, applications, and libraries written for version 2.4.20 to 2.6.17. Apply third-party and proprietary patches to the kernel source. Assist with hardware and user mode Linux-based simulator startup and initialization. Ideally, we need someone who has worked on this exact type of porting effort and has dealt with many of the issues/challenges in this type of port. Experience with UML is required since they use User ModeLinux as their Emulation/Development tool. Regards, John John Spencer (978) 256-1113 ext 7608 jspencer(a)optimaleng.com OPTIMAL ENGINEERING PARTNERS "Your Optimal partner for full-lifecycle engineering services in embedded and real-time, systems and application development" www.optimalengineering.com <http://www.optimalengineering.com/>

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JOB - Unix File Systems - off-site work is fine
by John Spencer June 11, 2007

June 11, 2007

We have a client looking for Unix File Systems long-term consulting help. This work can be done remotely with occasional visits to client site out of state. Details are as follows: Project Description: This is a need for a Sr. File Systems Engineer to work remotely via a virtual office, There is potential for a client visit every 6-8 weeks. This is a very strategic and high visibility project with a large end-client. Optical based storage, OSD project. This resource will be part of the core program that is in charge of fully designing a file system for work in conjunction with an OSD driver. There are around 5 people on the project - 2 SCSI engineers/1 file systems engineer/1 embedded engineer. They are in the architecture phase right now. Even with the consultant working from a virtual office, they will be held accountable to a regular schedule, (meaning you must work core business hours) Required Skills: - Unix file systems (Constructs such as VFS, vnodes, inodes, caching, B+trees, disk layouts, index and hashing mechanisms) - File System Internals experience is key (Understand of, and ability to comfortably converse about, inodes, allocations groups, how to manipulate internals of a file system) - SW development - Strong C - Strong Unix - Unix development tools - Embedded systems development is a big plus - NetBSD is a big plus **** A junior file systems engineer would still be considered as long as they have a reasonable amount of understanding of File systems internals. **** Regards, John John Spencer (978) 256-1113 ext 7608 jspencer(a)optimaleng.com OPTIMAL ENGINEERING PARTNERS "Your Optimal partner for full-lifecycle engineering services in embedded and real-time, systems and application development" www.optimalengineering.com <http://www.optimalengineering.com/>

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Re: [Wlug] Hardware Vendor Search (a bit off list)
by Mike Leo June 8, 2007

June 8, 2007

Expert Server Group in Bedford NH. http://www.expertserver.com/ Worked with them for years and they are awesome. Jenn Heiberg is our current rep, but Amy Fournier is cool, too. They are a var, too. VMWare experts and such. ----- Original Message ---- From: Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 3:20:36 PM Subject: [Wlug] Hardware Vendor Search (a bit off list)  Does anyone know a good, reliable, hardware vendor that they can recommend? I need to purchase 4-7 2U servers and our existing vendor is dragging his feet. Thanks, Tal _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Hardware Vendor Search (a bit off list)
by Jamie Guinan June 8, 2007

June 8, 2007

I had a really bad experience trying to buy a 1U server from a vendor I saw in Linux Journal, thinking I'd support a "linux-friendly" company. Well, after they charged my CC, it took them 3 *weeks* to start the system burn-in, the system *failed* burn-in, they said it would take at least another week... so I finally told them to screw off and got my money back. I ended up buying a dirt-cheap 1U Celeron (Cybertron) from TigerDirect, which I colo'd with a Level3 reseller in Cambridge. Its been humming along for 2 years so far. So if you're willing forego the "value add" (pronounced with dripping sarcasm and doing the "quotes" motion with my fingers) that some vendors might provide, and you can install and configure your own Linux distro, you might try TigerDirect or another generic online vendor. -Jamie On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Tal Cohen wrote: > Does anyone know a good, reliable, hardware vendor that they can recommend? > I need to purchase 4-7 2U servers and our existing vendor is dragging his > feet. > > > > Thanks, > Tal

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Hardware Vendor Search (a bit off list)
by Tal Cohen June 8, 2007

June 8, 2007

Does anyone know a good, reliable, hardware vendor that they can recommend? I need to purchase 4-7 2U servers and our existing vendor is dragging his feet. Thanks, Tal

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Seeking Linux help for area non-profit - compensation potential
by Mike Peckar June 6, 2007

June 6, 2007

Please do not reply to the list or to me. Boylston's public cable access channel (WBAC) is seeking to expand its services and offer Video on Demand and video file upload and download services for its staff and eventually the community. They currently have their web site and email hosted with an ISP and they are happy with that, but the ISP cannot provide them with these new services. They are looking for help in installing and configuring a linux box off their private LAN for this purpose. They also need other general help with their setup including configuring and troubleshooting VPN connections via their netgear VPN/firewall, etc. These folks are sort of windows literate, and they recognize that Linux will provide them with the most secure and cost-effective solution to meet their growing needs at this time. Ideally, they are seeking Boylston residents, but they are willing to bring in help from outside their community. They are also able to reasonably compensate for the above mentioned services and/or barter for access to their fine production equipment. If you are intersted in learning more about video and television production, this may be well worth your effort. To express your interest, please provide a brief summary of your skills, your level of interest in supporting WBAC, and any compensation requirements to: Tom Martiska Staff(a)wbactv.org

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Followup [Re: Follow-Up to Key Signing Party]
by Jamie Guinan May 31, 2007

May 31, 2007

Ok, so I did, gpg --recv-keys ... [everyone's ID from the meeting ] gpg --fingerprint ... [ confirm fingerprints ] for key in ... ; do gpg --sign-key $key; done for key in ... ; do gpg --send-key $key; done Now "gpg --list-keys" shows all the keys I expected to see. And just now I did a "gpg --recv-keys <my ID>" and it said I had 6 new signatures, gpg: requesting key 103BA0B0 from hkp server pgp.mit.edu gpg: key 103BA0B0: "Jamie Guinan <guinan(a)bluebutton.com>" 6 new signatures gpg: 3 marginal(s) needed, 1 complete(s) needed, PGP trust model gpg: depth: 0 valid: 1 signed: 12 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 1u gpg: depth: 1 valid: 12 signed: 1 trust: 12-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u gpg: next trustdb check due at 2009-04-16 gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: new signatures: 6 I think that looks good. At some point I'll look into using it for email and other things, but at least the basics are there. -Jamie

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a) UPS talk? b) APC-w-USB ?
by Doug Mildram May 29, 2007

May 29, 2007

doug> I got an idea for a WLUG talk, having trolled the SW-devel-mail-list and used sparingly the excellent APC-UPS free sw at http://www.apcupsd.com I've got a small-enough APC SmartUPS and a laptop or 2 I could do this on. What I don't have (or can't yank out of the lab here at work) COULD USE....dont really NEED: ....an APC UPS with the more modern USB port....reasonably small. (the SW supports serial/"COM1" cable/interface, or USB/HID... I'm very weak on the HID stuff, but it probably just works.) So this lure is to see who does have apc w/usb... and wants to try-and-or-demo this. and When's the june meeting ? (I forget what month the party is.)

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Free stuff - please reply off list
by Adam Keck May 29, 2007

May 29, 2007

Hello All, I have some free items that I can bring to the next meeting, if anyone wants them. 2x Serial Cable 6ft: DB-25 Female to DB-25 Male 1x Serial Cable 6ft: DB-25 Male to DB-25 Male 1x Sun 13W3 to VGA Adapter 4x SCSI 2 to SCSI 3 - DB50P Male to DB68P Male 6ft 1x DB-9 Male to DB-25 Female Serial Adapter 1x SCSI 2: DB-50 Male to DB-50 Male 3ft 1x SCSI 3: DB-68 Male to Male 1ft 1x Sun 13W3 to Mac DB-15 graphics cable 1x Centronix to DB-25 SCSI 1 1x @Home Network (there's a blast from the past ;) USB Ethernet Adapter 1x SCSI 3: DB-68 Male to DB-68 Male 3ft 1x DB-68 Male to 50-pin Male 1x SCSI 3: DB-68 Male to DB-68 Male 6ft 1x 8-port 3-Com 10/100 hub 1x DLT-4 tape 1x Male to Male VGA cable 6ft 2x DB-9 Male to DB-9 Female 6ft 1x Mammoth Cleaning Tape 8mm 1x ATA-100 internal IDE cable 1x DB-15 VGA Male to Male gender changer 1x Synoptics LattisNet Model 508 10Base-T Transceiver -Adam

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2 free 17" CRT monitors (D1028L)
by Mike Frysinger May 27, 2007

May 27, 2007

ive got two spare 17" CRT monitors here ... they're D1028L (the good shit: Triniton). ive got no use for them and dont want to be bothered with selling them, so if anyone wants one, lemme know ... i'm in the WPI area -mike

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Re: [Wlug] FW: gv & resource file in ubuntu feisty fox
by Jamie Guinan May 26, 2007

May 26, 2007

On Fri, 25 May 2007, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I've searched and have not found the answer to this issue. > > gv in the Ubuntu feisty fox distro does not seem to observe the > resource file. In particular the auto-refresh and reverse scroll do > not work. > > My resource file is ~/.gv and contains: > > GV.reverseScrolling: TRUE > GV.watchFile: TRUE > GV.autoResize: FALSE > > > This did work on Red Hat FC4, but the same file does not work in > Ubuntu. > > Am I doing something wrong or have I found a bug? I think resource settings "reside" in the X server at run-time, so you could try manually adding those particular ones like so, (with queries before and after for testing), $ xrdb -query $ xrdb -merge ~/.gv $ xrdb -query Then run gv again. If it works, maybe you could add it to your X startup, however that works on your $DISTRO+$DESKTOP+etc... In the past I've also used ggv, which is gnome-ified gv. -Jamie

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FW: gv & resource file in ubuntu feisty fox
by Bill Mills-Curran May 25, 2007

May 25, 2007

I've searched and have not found the answer to this issue. gv in the Ubuntu feisty fox distro does not seem to observe the resource file. In particular the auto-refresh and reverse scroll do not work. My resource file is ~/.gv and contains: GV.reverseScrolling: TRUE GV.watchFile: TRUE GV.autoResize: FALSE This did work on Red Hat FC4, but the same file does not work in Ubuntu. Am I doing something wrong or have I found a bug? TIA, Bill

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Cups, FC6, and networks, oh MY!
by Bill Smith May 25, 2007

May 25, 2007

I have recently acquired an HP LaserJet 4MP. It's connected to the parallel port of my system running FC6 (with all current updates). The printer itself works great, so long as I am trying to print from localhost, but I'd like to share it to the other systems on my network. (These other systems include WinXP, Mac OS X, etc.) I've poked around a bit and found pointers on getting cups to work on other OSs (Gentoo, Ubuntu), but not Fedora Core. Would anyone have any pointers? I'm willing to post config file segments, if that will help-- just tell me what you need to see. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "He played me like a fish... I can't make it any clearer than that." -- Colin Mochrie, on "Who's Line Is It, Anyway?" * TAG! v3.2 *

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Re: [Wlug] Cups, FC6, and networks, oh MY!
by Mike Leo May 25, 2007

May 25, 2007

I'm not following this whole thread, but you need a printer entry in /etc/samba/smb.conf to share it with windows folks ----- Original Message ---- From: Bill Smith <wsmith(a)chezsmith.com> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 8:29:07 AM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Cups, FC6, and networks, oh MY! On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:25:26 -0400, John Stoffel wrote: > >I've got an old LaserJet 4M myself. Ran nicely for years, before the >rollers started putting junk on the paper. It's also got the >JetDirect card as well, so you can just put it onto the network. > >I'd be happy to sell it off for a nominal sum, say $50? But let me >check that the darn thing is still in the basement... This would give >you spare parts if anything broke on yours. Thanks for the thought... How much is interchangeable between the 4M and 4MP? I know that my printer doesn't have anywhere for a JetDirect card: it's got a parallel, AppleTalk, and serial port at one edge on the back, and on the side, it's got two (empty) memory slots... I'm mostly wondering what I need to do to get FC6 to share this printer (that is, the LaserJet 4MP) with other computers on the network. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "Free will is an illusion. People always choose the perceived path of greatest pleasure." -- Dogbert * TAG! v3.2 * _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Well, maybe one more sparc64 question....
by Ken Jones May 25, 2007

May 25, 2007

Jamie, That posting you sent me is definitely my bug. The only difference is the revision level of media-libs-mesa. The poster claims that his problems were fixed with a emerge --sync the following morning. I have not been so lucky. -------------You and the bug report told me to eselect opengl. I did and this is what I get. kjones-sun2 temp # eselect opengl set xorg-x11 shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent dir ectories: No such file or directory !!! Error: Can't load module opengl Killed kjones-sun2 temp # ----------I then looked for a relationship between opengl and xorg-x11. kjones-sun2 temp # locate opengl | grep x11 /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11 /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/include /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/include/glxtokens.h /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/include/glxmd.h /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/include/glxproto.h kjones-sun2 temp # --------The posting also asked that I check glxproto.h as a logical link. kjones-sun2 temp # ls -l /usr/include/GL/glxproto.h ls: cannot access /usr/include/GL/glxproto.h: No such file or directory kjones-sun2 temp # --------So I just tried to find glxproto.h. It is real and 75729 bytes in size... kjones-sun2 temp # locate glxproto.h /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/include/glxproto.h kjones-sun2 temp # kjones-sun2 temp # ls -l /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/include/glxproto.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 75729 May 23 18:14 /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/include/glxpr oto.h That seems very interesting and pertinent. I have not the faintest idea what is going on. Do you understand?? Do you know what I need to do to get xorg-x11 installed? Ken Jones

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Re: [Wlug] last sparc64 gentoo question - I promise
by Jamie Guinan May 24, 2007

May 24, 2007

On Thu, 24 May 2007, ken jones wrote: > I succeeded in doing: > #emerge --sync > #emerge portage > Then I tried > #emerge xorg-x11 > overnight. I woke up to find this had failed on step 101 out of 133. That's actually rather good progress. :) > ------------------- > The first two emerge's completed, emerge xorg-x11 did not. Below is > stdout. Looking at the log it appears that stddef.h is missing... > -----------snip--------- > makedepend: warning: clientattrib.c (reading /usr/include/gconv.h, line > 31): cannot find include file "stddef.h" > ---------snip---------- > Right at the end stdout said, "!!! If you need support, post the > topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant." > I have no idea what this means. Do you? > Any suggestions what I do now? My guess is to just try again. I found this, http://www.nabble.com/emerge-xorg-xll--fails-out-at-media-libs-mesa-6.5-r3-… See the post from Donnie Berkholz near the bottom, where he suggests # eselect opengl set xorg-x11 Then try, # emerge -ptv xorg-x11 [ this will show you what's going to be merged ] # emerge xorg-x11 [ ok, try again...] -Jamie > Ken Jones > ========================================== > -------------------snip of emerge failure step 101 out of > 133---------------- > >>> Emerging (101 of 133) media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1 to / > >>> Downloading > 'http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/MesaLib-6.5.1.tar.bz2' > --00:50:32-- http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/MesaLib-6.5.1.tar.bz2 > => `/usr/portage/distfiles/MesaLib-6.5.1.tar.bz2' > Resolving distfiles.gentoo.org... 156.56.247.195, 216.165.129.135, > 64.50.236.52, ... > Connecting to distfiles.gentoo.org|156.56.247.195|:80... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > Length: 3,138,257 (3.0M) [application/x-tar] > > 100%[===============================================================================>] > 3,138,257 523.02K/s ETA 00:00 > > 00:50:38 (503.34 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/MesaLib-6.5.1.tar.bz2' > saved [3138257/3138257] > > * checking ebuild checksums ;-) > ... > [ ok ] > * checking auxfile checksums ;-) > ... > [ ok ] > * checking miscfile checksums ;-) > ... > [ ok ] > * checking MesaLib-6.5.1.tar.bz2 ;-) > ... > [ ok ] > * QA Notice: USE Flag 'amd64-fbsd' not in IUSE for media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1 > * QA Notice: USE Flag 'kernel_FreeBSD' not in IUSE for > media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1 > >>> Unpacking source... > >>> Unpacking MesaLib-6.5.1.tar.bz2 to > /var/tmp/portage/media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1/work > * Applying 6.5.1-freebsd-dri.patch > ... > [ ok ] > * Removing DO_DEBUG defs in dri drivers... > * Sparc assembly code is not working; deactivating > >>> Source unpacked. > >>> Compiling source in > /var/tmp/portage/media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1/work/Mesa-6.5.1 ... > (cd configs && rm -f current && ln -s linux-dri current) > . > . <<=============many steps in here=========>> > . > clientattrib.c: In function `__glFreeAttributeState': > clientattrib.c:131: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > clientattrib.c:132: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > make[3]: *** [clientattrib.o] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory > `/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1/work/Mesa-6.5.1/src/glx/x11' > make[2]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory > `/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1/work/Mesa-6.5.1/src' > make[1]: *** [default] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory > `/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1/work/Mesa-6.5.1' > make: *** [linux-dri] Error 2 > > !!! ERROR: media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1 failed. > Call stack: > ebuild.sh, line 1615: Called dyn_compile > ebuild.sh, line 972: Called qa_call 'src_compile' > ebuild.sh, line 44: Called src_compile > mesa-6.5.1-r1.ebuild, line 215: Called die > > !!! Build failed > !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call > stack if relevant. > !!! A complete build log is located at > '/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1/temp/build.log'. > > kjones-sun2 bin # > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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last sparc64 gentoo question - I promise
by ken jones May 24, 2007

May 24, 2007

I succeeded in doing: #emerge --sync #emerge portage Then I tried #emerge xorg-x11 overnight. I woke up to find this had failed on step 101 out of 133. ------------------- The first two emerge's completed, emerge xorg-x11 did not. Below is stdout. Looking at the log it appears that stddef.h is missing... -----------snip--------- makedepend: warning: clientattrib.c (reading /usr/include/gconv.h, line 31): cannot find include file "stddef.h" ---------snip---------- Right at the end stdout said, "!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant." I have no idea what this means. Do you? Any suggestions what I do now? My guess is to just try again. Ken Jones ========================================== -------------------snip of emerge failure step 101 out of 133---------------- >>> Emerging (101 of 133) media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1 to / >>> Downloading 'http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/MesaLib-6.5.1.tar.bz2' --00:50:32-- http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/MesaLib-6.5.1.tar.bz2 => `/usr/portage/distfiles/MesaLib-6.5.1.tar.bz2' Resolving distfiles.gentoo.org... 156.56.247.195, 216.165.129.135, 64.50.236.52, ... Connecting to distfiles.gentoo.org|156.56.247.195|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 3,138,257 (3.0M) [application/x-tar] 100%[===============================================================================>] 3,138,257 523.02K/s ETA 00:00 00:50:38 (503.34 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/MesaLib-6.5.1.tar.bz2' saved [3138257/3138257] * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking MesaLib-6.5.1.tar.bz2 ;-) ... [ ok ] * QA Notice: USE Flag 'amd64-fbsd' not in IUSE for media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1 * QA Notice: USE Flag 'kernel_FreeBSD' not in IUSE for media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1 >>> Unpacking source... >>> Unpacking MesaLib-6.5.1.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1/work * Applying 6.5.1-freebsd-dri.patch ... [ ok ] * Removing DO_DEBUG defs in dri drivers... * Sparc assembly code is not working; deactivating >>> Source unpacked. >>> Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1/work/Mesa-6.5.1 ... (cd configs && rm -f current && ln -s linux-dri current) . . <<=============many steps in here=========>> . clientattrib.c: In function `__glFreeAttributeState': clientattrib.c:131: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type clientattrib.c:132: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type make[3]: *** [clientattrib.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1/work/Mesa-6.5.1/src/glx/x11' make[2]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1/work/Mesa-6.5.1/src' make[1]: *** [default] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1/work/Mesa-6.5.1' make: *** [linux-dri] Error 2 !!! ERROR: media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1615: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 972: Called qa_call 'src_compile' ebuild.sh, line 44: Called src_compile mesa-6.5.1-r1.ebuild, line 215: Called die !!! Build failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. !!! A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/mesa-6.5.1-r1/temp/build.log'. kjones-sun2 bin #

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Re: [Wlug] It boots. Now what?
by Jamie Guinan May 23, 2007

May 23, 2007

On Wed, 23 May 2007, ken jones wrote: > I got HAPPYMEAL to work. My sparc64 is on the WEB! > Here is result of ls -lad /etc/make.profile > ----------snip---------- > kjones-sun2 ~ # ls -lad /etc/make.profile > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 58 May 17 12:45 /etc/make.profile -> > ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/sparc/sparc64/2006.1 > -----------end snip--------- > Here is result of emerge xorg-x11: How do I install from the tar.bz > file? What is gentoo's equivalent of Red Hat's rpm? That's what gentoo's portage system (via the "emerge" command) does for you - downloads the tarballs, builds, installs, and keeps a record of what's installed under /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package>/ . Well, when it works. :) Look at /usr/portage/media-libs/libpng/*.ebuild, its fairly easy to get the gist of it if you know shell syntax. Did you do "emerge --sync" like some others suggested? I see a few libpng versions available, up to 1.2.16, $ ls /usr/portage/media-libs/libpng/*.ebuild /usr/portage/media-libs/libpng/libpng-1.2.14-r1.ebuild /usr/portage/media-libs/libpng/libpng-1.2.14.ebuild /usr/portage/media-libs/libpng/libpng-1.2.15.ebuild /usr/portage/media-libs/libpng/libpng-1.2.16.ebuild > --------------snip------------- > Lastly, how do you know that HAPPYMEAL is in the sun-hme module? Where > is the information indicating the functionality contained in each module? In the "make menuconfig" [Help] items. Also in menuconfig, you can search all the help text by typing "/" and entering some text. Generally, once you have your system configured to your satisfaction, you keep a copy of the kernel .config, and use that the next time you upgrade the kernel by copying it to the new kernel tree and doing "make oldconfig". -Jamie

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It boots. Now what?
by ken jones May 23, 2007

May 23, 2007

I would like to get X11 services. I did an "emerge xterm". Here's what happened. ------------start snip------------- (chroot) livecd proc # emerge xterm Calculating dependencies | !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=x11-proto/xproto-7.0.6" have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - x11-proto/xproto-7.0.7 (masked by: ~sparc keyword) - x11-proto/xproto-7.0.10 (masked by: ~sparc keyword) - x11-proto/xproto-7.0.9 (masked by: ~sparc keyword) For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. (dependency required by "x11-libs/libX11-1.1.1-r1" [ebuild]) --------------end snip---------- What do I make of this? Another problem. My livecd prompt and my chroot prompt both see my ethernet card, eth0. However my new boot does not see the card. Ideas? Ken Jones

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I got my sparc64 gentoo on the network
by ken jones May 23, 2007

May 23, 2007

Thank you for suggesting that I compare two dmesg boot message outputs. "grep eth0" on the dmesg outputthat worked referenced HAPPYMEAL. The same 'grep' on the boot log that did not work had no HAPPYMEAL string. I had a 'CONFIG_HAPPYMEAL=m' line in .config. I changed it to 'CONFIG_HAPPYMEAL=y' and recompiled using genkernel. NOW MY NEWLY BOOTED sparc64 IS NETWORKED. The sky's the limit. :-) What I do not understand is how do I know which Module contains which functionality. If I had stuck with the '=m' config I should be able to add a module at boot time. How do I know which module to add? Ken Jones

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gentoo on sparc64 portage question..
by ken jones May 23, 2007

May 23, 2007

Please someone explain to me what is happening here. ---------------snip--------------------- (chroot) livecd dhcpcd # emerge dhcpcd Calculating dependencies... done! >>> Emerging (1 of 1) net-misc/dhcpcd-3.0.16-r1 to / >>> checking ebuild checksums ;-) >>> checking auxfile checksums ;-) >>> checking miscfile checksums ;-) >>> checking dhcpcd-3.0.16.tar.bz2 !!! Missing digest for 'dhcpcd-3.0.16.tar.bz2' (chroot) livecd dhcpcd # ---------------end snip---------------- Is this a successful emerge? If not, what do I do about the missing digest? Is there an emerge parameter that eliminates the sum check? I looked in 'man emerge' to no avail. emerge is supposed to install things. Instead of installations I get whatever this is. I can not "find" dhcpcd (a binary or a script) anywhere inside my machine. Is another step needed? Ken Jones

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Re: [Wlug] PXE 101 (summer school)
by Adam Keck May 22, 2007

May 22, 2007

<oops... replied off list, reposting> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/boot/syslinux/ has the PXE server source that most distros use and http://syslinux.zytor.com/pxe.php talks about how to setup PXE, tftpd, and dhcpd (ISC). -Adam On 5/22/07, Doug Mildram <doug.mildram(a)mindspeed.com> wrote: > > doug> I too use PXE at work, with some success. > I could stand to learn more, and I sure as hell am still > looking for the "pxe daemon source code"...buried by intel?who? > while still running a redhat binary pxe daemon here. > > If every box had a bootable CD, it'd be easier to > just do that ...whether the CD is the stock CD, or one that > you customize a bit, which I've done; which is separate from > customizing the kickstart config file... > but realize as an opening comment, I may recommend that you > ignore PXE until you need it; ignore the boot-from-NIC potential. > > You're VERY welcome to torture me with questions, or visit Westboro > (work/days..it's quiet enough here) for some hands on confusion. > > It may be easier to LEARN PXE after learning "kickstart" without PXE. > e.g. booting from CD with > "linux ks=nfs:nfsserverip:/path/to/yourconfigfile.cfg" > and the .cfg file has MORE info like > ....some intro omitted..... > network ... (static,dhcp...it can install static > while USING a temp-dhcp installaddr) > part .... (disk layout) > authconfig ... ( --enablenis is my option) > nfs --server servername-or-ip --dir /path/releasedir > skipx (no X, dumb terminal consoles best for servers, right?) > %packages... > ...... > % post > exec > /KICKSTART.log 2>&1 > echo "hello..." > mkdir /customdir > mount nfsserver:/exporteddir /customdir > ( grab things, even edit files in / ....) > chkconfig --level 345 ntpd on > chkconfig --level 345 nfs on > ..............and so on. Tends to be a few hundred lines long. > > PXE does all this, but without the CD...and with more flaky results > depending on NIC cards, mostly, i think...I find it > just complicated enough to confuse me, > and just odd enough to NOT work in some cases. > > Challenges: 1) can't find the source to the pxe daemon, > which seems to have fallen OFF of the distros. > I feel "stuck" running a redhat9 binary (which works usually-for-me > on a redhat3-or-4 based system, just copying /usr/sbin/pxe > and firing it up manually (it often crashes after getting its job done) > > 2) complex dependencies. It needs > 2a) DHCP server, can be your existing one > 2b) TFTP server (this part is NOT complex, after you > learn some of the bootfile/dir layout) > as well as the (nfs,ftp,youdecide) server to grab packages from. > > What's confusing is how the PXE daemon and DHCP daemon play together. > When my boot fails, the error whines about DHCP even when PXE is the > problem. > >

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Re: [Wlug] It boots. Now what?
by sageman＠WPI.EDU May 22, 2007

May 22, 2007

> Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 09:16:18 -0400 > From: ken jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> > Subject: [Wlug] It boots. Now what? > To: WLUG <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <4652ED22.5090802(a)ziplink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I would like to get X11 services. I did an "emerge xterm". Here's what > happened. > ------------start snip------------- > (chroot) livecd proc # emerge xterm > Calculating dependencies | > !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=x11-proto/xproto-7.0.6" have been > masked. > !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your > request: > - x11-proto/xproto-7.0.7 (masked by: ~sparc keyword) > - x11-proto/xproto-7.0.10 (masked by: ~sparc keyword) > - x11-proto/xproto-7.0.9 (masked by: ~sparc keyword) > > For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page > or > refer to the Gentoo Handbook. > (dependency required by "x11-libs/libX11-1.1.1-r1" [ebuild]) > --------------end snip---------- > > What do I make of this? > > Another problem. My livecd prompt and my chroot prompt both see my > ethernet card, eth0. However my new boot does not see the card. Ideas? > > Ken Jones Ken, Pulling in xterm, it needs libX11, which, in turn, is pulling in xproto. For the sparc, a masked version of xproto seems to be required. This masking with the "~" is just saying it's in the "testing" set of packages, but it's not hardmasked (it would mention it if it was), meaning it *should* be stable. Regardless, you need the "unstable" version in order to get xterm. There's a number of ways to deal with this, but the suggested way is to add the necessary files, one by one, to /etc/portage/package.unmask. You can do this by adding a line with "x11-proto/xproto ~sparc", or, even better, using the flagedit utility (which you must first "emerge flagedit" to get), and just do: "flagedit x11-proto/xproto +~sparc". [http://damz.net/flagedit/] More info on masking: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Masked

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Re: [Wlug] [Fwd: Re: Multiple RS232 Com Ports...]
by Stephen Daukas May 22, 2007

May 22, 2007

Hi all! Lots of good info... I hadn't stopped to think about a terminal server! OK, lets see about answering some of the questions... - - - - - - Yes, cabling will be fun. The sondes are used for sampling water... The sondes we use are cylinders approximately 2.5 feet in length and about 3 inches in diameter (one, called "big Bertha", is about six inches in diameter) . One end has a data connection that uses a round, screw-on, water tight serial connector, and the business end has several sensors sticking out (optical, chemical, conductivity, a little propeller for mixing water to be sampled, etc., etc.), all within a screw-on cage that protects the sensors from stuff like rocks passing by in the current (fast currents equate to rather large rocks). The idea is to have a tank of water (fish tank, cooler, whatever) fitted with Plexiglas that has multiple holes through which the several sondes are positioned upright, data end pointing up, with a bunch of cables hanging in-place above each sonde - think of the device that sets the bowling pins in place at the end of the alley... Anyway, you place a bunch of sondes into the tank (that has circulating water being maintained at a precise temp, % dissolved Oxygen, and so on), plug each sonde into the cable available directly above it, and then go to the *insert Linux solution here* and initiate communication, data upload, and calibration routines. (By the way, the tank is just about done - its is being debugged as we speak.) After upload and calibration (using the water in the tank), configure each sonde for the next deployment (how often to sample, etc.), turn them off, unscrew the cables and screw on a waterproof cover, remove them from the tank, and place the entire sonde into another protective chamber (6" PVC pipe with holes drilled in a specific pattern and capped on both ends) for another few weeks in some river/lake/coastal location. - - - - - - Yes, I may be confusing myself regarding "I/O device driver" versus "driver" for the sonde... However, I'm pretty sure that all I need is a vanilla "RS232 device driver" that will "just work" for any number of "com" ports by allowing some vanilla terminal emulation package (preferably one that has scripting capabilities) to talk to multiple RS232 ports. I could be wrong about this, in which case I may need to write some code, or perhaps the manufacturer might be thinking of supporting Linux. I don't do the day-to-day instrumentation work, but I am supposed to worry about it none the less. In terms of the "sondes going to sleep", this is based on concerns expressed by the lab along the lines of "if you hook-up the sonde and let it sit too long, you have to start over because it will turn itself off." Also, I use the term "vanilla" a lot because the staff aren't computer types - this has to "just work" like any other tool in the lab. Dear lord - we are talking about biology types after all! ;-) (Unlike engineering/geoscience types!!) - - - - - - So, the other question was about the necessity of having certain signals present. Again, I'm told that the sonde needs all the signals present in a DB-9. I'm guessing this may have more to do with not really knowing for sure and erring on the side of caution, but since there is hardware available that will do this and I can't spend all of my time chasing this down, I'll assume the information I'm getting on this topic is correct. (Biologists not withstanding.) I think this is where the multiport boards or a terminal server would come in... One of the replies mentioned writing a script, and that is what I was thinking about... Specifically, I was wondering if it could be as simple as a script sending the proper bit patterns to get the sonde to do the right things, pipe the serial data through the script and append the data to a file, and s on... (Was that you, John?) - - - - - - - Anyway, I'll have to take a look at the product references mentioned and contemplate what I might need to do in the world of scripting... I haven't heard back from the manufacturer yet, but I'm hoping this will turn out to be a simple project when all is said and done!! Also, I haven't used a terminal server before, so that should be interesting as well. Thanks! If you have any more thoughts, please let me know!! Steve On 5/21/07, Stephen C. Daukas <scd(a)daukas.com> wrote: > > > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Wlug] Multiple RS232 > Com Ports... Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 15:44:09 -0400 From: John Stoffel > <john(a)stoffel.org> <john(a)stoffel.org> Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users > Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> To: Worcester Linux Users > Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> References: > <4650752A.1020203(a)daukas.com> <4650752A.1020203(a)daukas.com> > <18001.54171.525952.976484(a)stoffel.org><18001.54171.525952.976484(a)stoffel.org> > <20070521181244.GH4900(a)angus.ind.WPI.EDU><20070521181244.GH4900(a)angus.ind.WPI.EDU> > > Chuck> On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 01:15:07PM -0400, John Stoffel wrote: > >> darn good things about the Cyclades stuff as well. Stay away from the > >> Legacy Avocent (who bought Cyclades...) serial port stuff, it's crap. > > Chuck> Hmm I have to disagree here. We have the Avocent/Cyclades ACS line > Chuck> and are very happy with them. They run Linux inside and support many > Chuck> connection protocols, like Telnet, SSH, Reverse Telnet, Bidirectional, > Chuck> etc. Full RTS/CTS control lines including DTR are available. They > Chuck> support console logging to RAM, PCMCIA flash card, or remote syslog. > > Chuck> Perhaps you are referring to their older Cyclades TS line. > > I'm talking about the old Avocent designed CPS line of crap. You're > talking about the Cyclades designed stuff, including the TS and the > ACS. > > I've got an ancient Cyclom-Y ISA 8-port serial card in my main home > computer and it's been working great for for years. Wish I could > afford the newer stuff. > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Setting up PXE/TFTBoot
by Mike Leo May 22, 2007

May 22, 2007

no, but i bet these guys have some doc's for you http://www.ltsp.org/ ----- Original Message ---- From: Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:34:32 AM Subject: [Wlug] Setting up PXE/TFTBoot  I know that this is not new technology….but I am having quite a time figuring this out. I was hoping that you guys could give me a hand. In my office, I want to setup a system that will provide a boot image over the network so that I can remotely setup and configure new servers. I am running Crux2.3. Does anyone have experience setting up remote booting systems? Thanks, Tal _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Setting up PXE/TFTBoot
by Tal Cohen May 22, 2007

May 22, 2007

I know that this is not new technology..but I am having quite a time figuring this out. I was hoping that you guys could give me a hand. In my office, I want to setup a system that will provide a boot image over the network so that I can remotely setup and configure new servers. I am running Crux2.3. Does anyone have experience setting up remote booting systems? Thanks, Tal

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Multiple RS232 Com Ports...
by Stephen C. Daukas May 21, 2007

May 21, 2007

Hi all! I'm wondering if anyone knows how many RS232 devices a "vanilla" Linux kernel can manage simultaneously. I'd like to be able to have up to 32 going at once, with data taken from each device written to its own file via the standard I/O subsystem. As far as I know, wouldn't Linux simply fork the appropriate number of driver threads to read as many RS232 ports as are attached with each device's stream written to a "/dev" file? Why do I want to do this? Glad you asked... I'm investigating an issue at work that involves our instrumentation lab having to upload/download/calibrate multiple sondes and have them ready for field deployment the next day. Currently, we can do three at a time and this takes about 8-9 hours providing everything goes well. The manufacturer's software application claims to supports the simultaneous upload/config of up to 32 sondes. The application will scan "installed" COM ports looking for recognizable sondes, and present those found to the user. Yes - this is a windows solution, so I first began looking for products that would play with Windows... I began looking for hardware solutions (PCI boards, break-out boxes, etc.) on the net and I found a few that will provide 16 DB-9 RS232 ports with full pin-out support as well as so-called "true" interrupt and FIFO support on the host (via their own custom Windows driver, no doubt). And then I started wondering about how to get all of this to work in a Windows environment where "IT" is the only group allowed to install software and otherwise configure a PC for most users whose biggest concern is email... All this got me thinking about avoiding the whole Windows issue and instead thinking about using Linux to take care of the RS232 part, with the newly created files moved to a Windows box (sneakernet to start with), with the normal post-processing of the data taking place as usual in the Windows environment the staff is used to... I'm hoping an "out of the box" distro will be able to handle say 16 RS232 ports and that Linux-based terminal emulation software is available to simultaneously handle those ports as well so I can capture the data using the appropriate protocols... Anyone know of a similar application using RS232 and Linux, or have some thoughts on this? Thanks! Steve

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My Ultra sparc64 booted!!
by ken jones May 21, 2007

May 21, 2007

Thank you everybody for your help. My sparc64 finally booted. I used genkernel with the livecd cdrom's kernel 2617 /proc/config.gz. The last piece of the puzzle was getting fstab correct. Here is proof. -----------snip of uname -a ----------------------- kjones-sun2 / # uname -a Linux kjones-sun2 2.6.20-gentoo-r5 #3 SMP Thu May 17 13:58:22 Local time zone must be set--see zic sparc64 sun4u GNU/Linux kjones-sun2 / # -------------end snip-------------- I am not sure whether I learned anything specific to gentoo or to sparc64. I did learn that creating good open source documentation is difficult and that finding one's way through unfamiliar documentation is daunting. Thanks, again. Ken Jones

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Fwd: Urgent Need for Software QA Instructor in Boston, MA
by albutler33＠netscape.net May 20, 2007

May 20, 2007

Hello all, Here's an opportunity I thought I'd pass along. Al Butler member of WLUG (haven't attended for quite a while) -----Original Message----- From: april01(a)o-s-tech.com To: albutler33(a)netscape.net Sent: Thu, 17 May 2007 8:59 PM Subject: Urgent Need for Software QA Instructor in Boston, MA Dear Aljerin, Open Systems Technology Services has an urgent need for an experienced Software Quality Assurance Instructor. Topics Software development life cycle-the product view Software configuration management (SCM) Software quality assurance Testing, validating and evaluating Special topics Planning, organizing, implementing and managing for SQA ------------------- Location: Boston, MA Date: June 11-13 Rate: $300 day/ 1099 Please let me know ASAP if you are available or know of someone who have experience teaching Linux. Classes will begin at 8am each day. Introduction to Linux, 3 days March 19th - 21st Linux Admin I, 5 days March 26th - 30th Linux Admin II, 5 days April 9th - 13t Rate: $500.00/day Job Description: . If you are available, email your resume (in word format) and availability with a contact number by 5:00pm, Monday, May 21, 2007. Thank you, April Washington Open Systems Technology Services, Inc. Email: April01(a)o-s-tech.com ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

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ALSA hanging (Gentoo AMD64)
by Eric Stein May 18, 2007

May 18, 2007

Hi all, I have a very strange problem. Last night I updated all my packages and rebooted. On boot, alsasound started (boot runlevel), but while trying to restore mixer levels, it hung. I had to boot to a livecd and remove alsasound from boot to even start my system. I tried removing the old state file (in case the format changed and it was breaking because of that), but it wouldn't start without it. glamdring ~ # /etc/init.d/alsasound start * One of the files in /etc/{conf.d,init.d} or /etc/rc.conf * has a modification time in the future! * Loading ALSA modules ... [ ok ] * Restoring Mixer Levels ... * No mixer config in /var/lib/alsa/asound.state, you have to unmute your card! [ ok ] glamdring ~ # cd /var/lib/alsa/ glamdring alsa # l total 9 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 152 May 17 16:26 ./ drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 568 May 17 03:17 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 May 17 16:26 .keep_media-sound_alsa-utils-0.9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8073 May 17 12:50 asound.state.old drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 144 May 17 12:50 oss/ glamdring alsa # mv asound.state.old asound.state glamdring alsa # cd glamdring ~ # /etc/init.d/alsasound zap * Manually resetting alsasound to stopped state. glamdring ~ # /etc/init.d/alsasound start * Loading ALSA modules ... [ ok ] * Restoring Mixer Levels ... Which is where it hangs. Other alsa programs like alsaconf and alsamixer hang on startup, along with programs that attempt to use ALSA to output sound. I've tried reinstalling ALSA, I've tried revdep-rebuild, I've done modules-rebuild, and I'm at my wit's end. None of it seems to make sense, and Gnome isn't very happy about not having a sound output, so half of my GUI is missing. If anyone has some idea why this could be happening to me, please let me know. Eric

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OT: HP9k E-class
by Desdinova May 17, 2007

May 17, 2007

A bit OT, if you can reply off-list, that's fine. I just figure there's probably guys who know about crappy old minis here. I've got an E25 and I'm planning to replace the internal scsi drive, it shouldn't be any big deal, but this *is* HP. Are there any gotchas on drive geometry or size that I should watch for? Take care, des

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Re: [Wlug] Follow-Up to Key Signing Party
by Jamie Guinan May 17, 2007

May 17, 2007

On Thu, 17 May 2007, Eric Martin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Thanks to everyone who showed up to tonight's key signing party. Now > that we verified everybody had the correct key info and identification, > we actually have to sign each other's keys. We are using the keyserver > pgp.mit.edu. If that isn't your default, you can set it either in > ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf or at the command line for each command by using the > argument > - --keyserver pgp.mit.edu Is the "hkp://" prefix needed in gpg.conf? keyserver hkp://pgp.mit.edu > Below is an excerpt from the gpg Key Signing Party HowTo that explains > things in detail.(http://www.rubin.ch/pgp/kspa/gpg-party.en.html#ss3.8): > > 3.8 How to sign others' keys > > Step 1: Get a copy of the key > > Normally, you'll be working from a keyserver. However if you are signing > the key that is not available on a keyserver, you can use simply import > the key with gpg --import. If you are working with a keyserver, the > following command will download the key from the keyserver into your > public keyring. > > bash$ gpg --keyserver <keyserver> --recv-keys <Key_ID> > > If you get a read error, it means the keyserver is overloaded. Please, > try again in a few seconds. That worked Ok. > > Step 2: Fingerprint and Verify the key > > bash$ gpg --fingerprint <Key_ID> That too. > GPG will print out the fingerprint of the Key with <Key_ID > (the key > you just downloaded). Check the fingerprint against the checklist that > you where given at the party. Note: Don't check the fingerprint on your > checklist against the fingerprint on the web page as the server may not > send you the same key it displays on the web page. > > Step 3: Sign the key > > bash$ gpg --sign-key <Key_ID> Ok. > > If you have multiple private keys, you can specify which of your private > keys to sign the other persons public key with like this: > > bash$ gpg --default-key <Key_to_use> --sign-key <Key_ID> > > Step 4: Return or Upload the signed key > > If you are working with an entity which does not want their key on a > public keyserver, you should at this point you should return their > signed key back to them by their method of choice - normally encrypted > email. You should not send a public key to a keyserver with out the > permission of the key's owner. Publicizing a public key slightly reduces > the security of a key pair, therefor it is considered rude to make a key > more public than its owner desires. > > Most likely you are working with a keyserver. If that is the case, you > can send the signed key back to the keyserver like this: > > bash$ gpg --keyserver <keyserver> --send-key <Key_ID> > > You should see a success message like this: > > gpg: success sending to `<keyserver>' (status=200) > Congratulations, the signature of the other entity's key is now complete > and your signature has been incorporated into their public key. A trust > path has been established. This looked different for me, $ gpg --send-key A9413B9F gpg: sending key A9413B9F to hkp server pgp.mit.edu $ No affirmative response, it just returned to the prompt. But the exit code was 0. $ echo $? 0 -Jamie [ not yet using gpg for mail ]

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Follow-Up to Key Signing Party
by Eric Martin May 17, 2007

May 17, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thanks to everyone who showed up to tonight's key signing party. Now that we verified everybody had the correct key info and identification, we actually have to sign each other's keys. We are using the keyserver pgp.mit.edu. If that isn't your default, you can set it either in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf or at the command line for each command by using the argument - --keyserver pgp.mit.edu Below is an excerpt from the gpg Key Signing Party HowTo that explains things in detail.(http://www.rubin.ch/pgp/kspa/gpg-party.en.html#ss3.8): 3.8 How to sign others' keys Step 1: Get a copy of the key Normally, you'll be working from a keyserver. However if you are signing the key that is not available on a keyserver, you can use simply import the key with gpg --import. If you are working with a keyserver, the following command will download the key from the keyserver into your public keyring. bash$ gpg --keyserver <keyserver> --recv-keys <Key_ID> If you get a read error, it means the keyserver is overloaded. Please, try again in a few seconds. Step 2: Fingerprint and Verify the key bash$ gpg --fingerprint <Key_ID> GPG will print out the fingerprint of the Key with <Key_ID > (the key you just downloaded). Check the fingerprint against the checklist that you where given at the party. Note: Don't check the fingerprint on your checklist against the fingerprint on the web page as the server may not send you the same key it displays on the web page. Step 3: Sign the key bash$ gpg --sign-key <Key_ID> If you have multiple private keys, you can specify which of your private keys to sign the other persons public key with like this: bash$ gpg --default-key <Key_to_use> --sign-key <Key_ID> Step 4: Return or Upload the signed key If you are working with an entity which does not want their key on a public keyserver, you should at this point you should return their signed key back to them by their method of choice - normally encrypted email. You should not send a public key to a keyserver with out the permission of the key's owner. Publicizing a public key slightly reduces the security of a key pair, therefor it is considered rude to make a key more public than its owner desires. Most likely you are working with a keyserver. If that is the case, you can send the signed key back to the keyserver like this: bash$ gpg --keyserver <keyserver> --send-key <Key_ID> You should see a success message like this: gpg: success sending to `<keyserver>' (status=200) Congratulations, the signature of the other entity's key is now complete and your signature has been incorporated into their public key. A trust path has been established. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGS+VsaiVxdKlBO58RAs3xAJ0W7SyjfbQtwHwDaHeWG5EgeWWXzgCfQ8pT W40gnhPVnkQ3u7E1jbXALvU= =GM/c -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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PGP Key Signing Party
by Eric Martin May 17, 2007

May 17, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Just a reminder that we are having a PGP Key Signing Party tomorrow for WLUG. If you're name isn't listed below, I do not have your info (and you should get it to me if you want to be on the list). I know Andy said noon tomorrow but I'll take stuff until 4pm. Don't forget your two forms of ID and I'll see you tomorrow. Eric Martin Gregory M. Avedissian Walt Sawyer Alexander Pennace Doug Mildram Keith Wright Alex Weiss Andrew M. Stewart James Philip Gray - -Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGSj+vaiVxdKlBO58RAmxgAJ0QaQlNCSrw58e80VeQjjGL/GKsOwCdErcn vMjPw9eiQD4zXEzjNWPBKa4= =KiW+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Last-Minute Emergency, Unable to Attend
by Terry S May 17, 2007

May 17, 2007

Hello, I had a phone call at 6:07 that required me to go out for a while, and did not have time to email. (I'm the one with the camera.) Hopefully, someone else just "happened" to have one, but I can take pictures at our next meeting if needed. How did the key-signing go? Terry

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large file performance on linux
by brad noyes May 16, 2007

May 16, 2007

Hello All, I am seeing some really slow performance regarding large files on linux. I write a lot of data points from a light sensor. The stream is about 53 Mb/s and i need to keep this rate for 7 minutes, that's a total of about 22Gb. I can sustain 53Mb/s pretty well until the file grows to over 1Gb or so, then things hit the wall and the writes to the filesystem can't keep up. The writes go from 20ms in duration to 500ms. I assume the filesystem/operating system is caching writes. Do you have any suggestions on how to speed up performance on these writes, filesystem options, kernel options, other strategies, etc? Things I have tried: - I have tried this on a ext3 file system as well as an xfs filesystem with the same result. - I have also tried spooling over several files (a la multiple volumes) but i see no difference in performance. In fact, i think this actually hinders performance a bit. - I keep my own giant memory buffer where all the data is stored and then it is written to disk in a background thread. This helps, but i run out of space in the buffer before i finish taking data. Thanks, -- Brad

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Meeting tomight
by freak4uxxx＠gmail.com May 16, 2007

May 16, 2007

I might be slightly delayed tonight, small family thing that needs to be taken care of. I shouldn't be late but I just wanted to let people know. -Eric

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Reminder: Upcoming PGP Key Signing Party
by Andy Stewart May 16, 2007

May 16, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, At our next WLUG meeting on Wednesday, May 16th, we will have a PGP Key Signing Party hosted by Chuck Anderson and Eric Martin. Eric has previously sent out instructions, so please be sure to follow them, and direct any questions to Eric or Chuck. I have posted those instructions on the WLUG home page (see description for May WLUG Meeting). I suggest a cutoff of noon on Wednesday, May 16th, for sending your information to Eric. This will give Eric time to collect the necessary information prior to the meeting. Dust off those passports - you'll need them! Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGQmjGHl0iXDssISsRAr1rAJ91nX/DNXHjRie+dDYyVjrq8ePq2wCeN8DC Q+SoklLvcW6MfOaCGuvwKwU= =kUPV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] large file performance on linux
by Jamie Guinan May 16, 2007

May 16, 2007

On Wed, 16 May 2007, brad noyes wrote: > Hello All, > > I am seeing some really slow performance regarding large files on linux. I > write a lot of data points from a light sensor. The stream is about 53 Mb/s and > i need to keep this rate for 7 minutes, that's a total of about 22Gb. I > can sustain 53Mb/s pretty well until the file grows to over 1Gb or so, then > things hit the wall and the writes to the filesystem can't keep up. The writes > go from 20ms in duration to 500ms. I assume the filesystem/operating system > is caching writes. Do you have any suggestions on how to speed up performance > on these writes, filesystem options, kernel options, other strategies, etc? > > Things I have tried: > - I have tried this on a ext3 file system as well as an xfs filesystem > with the same result. > > - I have also tried spooling over several files (a la multiple volumes) > but i see no difference in performance. In fact, i think this actually > hinders performance a bit. > > - I keep my own giant memory buffer where all the data is stored and > then it is written to disk in a background thread. This helps, but > i run out of space in the buffer before i finish taking data. Hi, Do you mean MB/s as in MegaBytes/second? Lower-case "b" implies "bits" to me, but I suspect you meant bytes. :) Anyway, if you know your total data set is going to exceed your system memory, which will largely get used as page cache, you might as well open the output with O_SYNC and write straight out. Then the big buffer in the writer thread can go away, and you can just queue chunks between the input and writer. A good experiment would be to run the writer thread with dummy input data and see what kind of throughput you get. You could try ext2 (no journalling), or tweaking some of the journalling options in ext3 (data=journal/ordered/writeback, see "man mount"). If you have enough CPU bandwidth, and your input stream has enough redundancy, you could gzip it before writing, which might reduce your output bandwidth requirements. Hope this helps, keep us posted. -Jamie > > Thanks, > -- Brad > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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SUN Ultra1 booting (still, sorry)
by ken jones May 8, 2007

May 8, 2007

I used genkernel to compile my 2.6.20-gentoo-r5 kernel. After much thrashing I got it to boot. All looked good until the very end when it claimed that it "Failed to set the user font" announced the name of my machine and gave me the login prompt. It would not respond to any keyboard input. After a minute or two it printed a line about "disabled for 5 minutes" and went permanently dead. See below. Any ideas? ---------------snip from almost successful boot--------------- * Starting lo [ !! * Bringing up lo * 127.0.0.1/8 * Adding routes [ ok * 127.0.0.0/8 ... * Initializing random number generator ... [ ok NIT: Entering runlevel: 3 [ ok * Setting user font ... putfont: PIO_FONT: Function not implemented putfont: PIO_FONT: Function not implemented putfont: PIO_FONT: Function not implemented putfont: PIO_FONT: Function not implemented putfont: PIO_FONT: Function not implemented putfont: PIO_FONT: Function not implemented putfont: PIO_FONT: Function not implemented putfont: PIO_FONT: Function not implemented putfont: PIO_FONT: Function not implemented putfont: PIO_FONT: Function not implemented putfont: PIO_FONT: Function not implemented * Failed to set user font * Mounting network filesystems ... [ !! * Starting local ... [ ok [ ok This is kjones-sun2.unknown_domain (Linux sparc64 2.6.20-gentoo-r5) 21:42:42 kjones-sun2 login: INIT: Id "s0" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes

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[OT] ethics
by Mark Richards May 2, 2007

May 2, 2007

Hi Matt. Matt Shields wrote: > I haven't checked out CPSR, so I don't know what they are, but you > can't enforce your beliefs on others. This comes down to personal > choice and where you want to work, or maybe working for the government > is the only available choice at the time. Some people have no problem I agree. What I was suggesting is the possibility for one or more people to make a statement as to where they choose to allow the fruit of their work to go, and/or how it is to be used. That's not about enforcing beliefs, but about sharing (and refining) them. The problem I have with open source licensing as it applies to this discussion I raised is that it does not discriminate as to use. I had once posed the possibility of creating a modified license that would prohibit (any) government from using a certain work, but this is both way too complicated and of course begs the question as to exactly what in a project can be legally restricted in this manner. After all, any project (including the one I am working on now) is comprised of a host of others, all bringing in license terms that do not have such a restriction. Attorneys will be needed to figure out if the idea of a more restrictive version of a GPL is even possible. > working for the government. If you want to change how the government > works because you don't like what they're doing, you elect officials > to change policy and petition those officials to change things. You Well, I think that the effectiveness of the system itself is a whole other debate that would go way off topic here. :) I do find the idea of a national referendum on important issues like blowing up other nations a pretty good idea. Has immediacy. But again, swaying way off here. > don't come up with a society that boycotts working for the government > because there's plenty of other people willing to take the job. There are plenty of people. But, as in organizations like Union of Concerned Scientists (the "concerned", I think, puts the intensity of the overall problem mildly), people have come together and made quite a difference. If they hadn't tried then the issues they raise may well have remained in obscurity while scientists of conscience masked their understanding and "concern" with lots of rolaids. /m

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Re: [Wlug] JOBS: Seeking a summer intern in Linux administration
by Clint Moyer May 2, 2007

May 2, 2007

At least that's only the job listing. If you _apply_ for a unix job with a MS Word resume, you get auto-deleted. ---- Jared Greenwald <greenwaldjared(a)gmail.com> wrote: ============= Nothing says Linux like a Word doc... On 5/1/07, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > HI Everybody, > > If you have an interest in this position, please reply directly to the > recruiter: > > Mischke, Ali <Ali.Mischke(a)ironmountain.com> > > Please note: when I forward email such as this, I'll be putting "JOBS:" > or "JOB:" at the beginning of the subject. You may thus filter at will. > > Thanks, > > Andy > > === > > Does WLUG have a student forum? I am the Engineering Internship > Coordinator at Iron Mountain Digital in Southborough, MA, and am trying > to get the word out about a paid internship we have for this summer. We > are looking for a student (junior, senior or graduate student) with > strong Linux skills to help administer an Engineering lab of 125-175 > Linux servers. I have attached the job description and would appreciate > if you could help get the word out to any student members of your > organization. > > Thanks in advance! > > Ali Mischke > Senior Manager, Analysis and Design > Iron Mountain Digital > > 120 Turnpike Road > Southborough, MA 01772 > Phone: (508) 808-7347 > ali.mischke(a)ironmountain.com > > === > > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) > Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) > Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGN7l3Hl0iXDssISsRAiGVAJ9PcqnYps7gc+2SZLc9cfXAz6mhWwCcCW4Y > 7c062GdyqG5Rw5nDEwT009I= > =0Jq9 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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JOBS: Seeking a summer intern in Linux administration
by Andy Stewart May 2, 2007

May 2, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, If you have an interest in this position, please reply directly to the recruiter: Mischke, Ali <Ali.Mischke(a)ironmountain.com> Please note: when I forward email such as this, I'll be putting "JOBS:" or "JOB:" at the beginning of the subject. You may thus filter at will. Thanks, Andy === Does WLUG have a student forum? I am the Engineering Internship Coordinator at Iron Mountain Digital in Southborough, MA, and am trying to get the word out about a paid internship we have for this summer. We are looking for a student (junior, senior or graduate student) with strong Linux skills to help administer an Engineering lab of 125-175 Linux servers. I have attached the job description and would appreciate if you could help get the word out to any student members of your organization. Thanks in advance! Ali Mischke Senior Manager, Analysis and Design Iron Mountain Digital 120 Turnpike Road Southborough, MA 01772 Phone: (508) 808-7347 ali.mischke(a)ironmountain.com === - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGN7l3Hl0iXDssISsRAiGVAJ9PcqnYps7gc+2SZLc9cfXAz6mhWwCcCW4Y 7c062GdyqG5Rw5nDEwT009I= =0Jq9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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MySQL Server Hardware
by John Westcott, IV April 30, 2007

April 30, 2007

Howdy All, I work in a place that has traditionally used Sun Sparc hardware running Solaris to host a production MySQL environment. We are going to be replacing our database servers this year and I am trying to determine if I want to maintain the norm or if I want to try to change. I am interested to see what other people use for hardware/OS for a production MySQL installation that requires a high amount of uptime. Thanks in advance for any replies. -John Westcott

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I'd like to see Windows do this....
by Tal Cohen April 30, 2007

April 30, 2007

Hi Folks, I recently ran across an interesting situation that I wanted to share this group. A customer of ours called us, letting us know that our server in their data center was beeping. We tried to ssh into the box, but kept getting connection refused. I asked the customer to hook up a monitor and keyboard to the box, and try a simple TTY. Sure enough, he was unable to log in. It turns out that the hard drive that holds the OS (Crux Linux) failed. Now, that in and of itself is not very interesting. What is interesting is that our software kept running even without the OS drive functioning. Our software resides on a separate drive. Since it was already loaded into memory and almost never needs to touch the OS drive, it just kept going.and going..and going.. Tal

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PGP Key Signing Party
by Eric Martin April 29, 2007

April 29, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This upcoming meeting we are going to have a PGP Key Signing Party. For those of you who don't know what PGP is, allow me to briefly explain. This is all base off of the GPG Key Signing HOWTO (http://www.rubin.ch/pgp/kspa/gpg-party.en.html) which I suggest for further reading. Those who do know can feel free to skip down to the next paragraph. PGP stands for Pretty Good Privacy, and is a Public Key Infrastructure that allows us to communicate securely and deal with data in a secure fashion. There is a public key that one would typically upload to a server and a private key that you hold on to. With the private key you can decrypt / sign, and with the public key you can encrypt / verify emails and documents. Key signatures come into play when you validate that a specific key belongs to a specific person and extend the web of trust. Here's what needs to be done BEFORE the meeting on your computer, or on a secure terminal (e.g. not in a computer lab on your campus). I'll post directions both for GPG (Gnu Privacy Guard) and Kgpg (the KDE front - -end to gpg for all of those who like GUIs). 1. Generate a Key Pair / Verify your key won't expire soon gpg --gen-key (Default values of DSA/Elgamal is fine and the default of 2048 is good.) I recommend 3 - 5 years for a key lifespan (how long the key will be good for) 1a) for those of you wishing to use Kgpg, goto Keys -> Generate Key Pair and fill in the dialog box Once you create the New key pair, check the Save As box under _Revocation Certificate_ to save a Revocation Certificate (see 2) 1c) For those of you who already have a key, make sure yours isn't about to expire (like mine did). If it has expired, you can extend the life by $ gpg --edit-key <key-id> and typing expire at the command prompt next, generate a new key-pair and sign your new key with your old key so anyone who trusted your old one will trust the new one. 2) Generate a revocation certificate Revocation certificates are for situations where you forget your passphrase, the key becomes comprised, etc you can revoke your key. $ gpg --output revoke.asc --gen-revoke <key-id> Save this in multiple places, print a copy etc in case you need it. 2GUI) If you didn't create a revocation cert in Kgpg, just right click on your new key and select Revoke Key. when the box pops up only check Save As 3) Upload your key to the Designated server for this party (pgp.mit.edu) $ gpg --send-key --keyserver=pgp.mit.edu <key-id> 3GUI) Right Click on the Key, select Export Public Keys, select Default Key Server (make sure it's pgp.mit.edu under Settings) 4) Email me your key's fingerprint so I can add it to the list $ gpg --fingerprint <key-id> Copy and Paste that into an email to the coordinator (me, Eric Martin). 5) print out a copy of that same output and bring it to the meeting. I'll make up a check list and bring them to the meeting for everyone to use. Example output from Step 4: pub 1024D/A9413B9F 2007-04-09 [expires: 2010-04-08] Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F uid Eric J. Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> uid Eric J. Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> sub 2048g/01F81B8E 2007-04-09 [expires: 2010-04-08] my <key-id> is A9413B9F (which is always the same as my last 8 hex digits of my fingerprint). If like me you don't always remember your key-id you can use your email address and it will still work. My full key information is: Key ID: A9413B9F Key Type: DSA Hex Fingerprint: D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F Key Size: 1024 (The DSA key is always 1024 bits. The ElGamal Encryption key is 2048 bits in my case, but isn't needed for the keysigning party.) What you should bring to this party 1. Yourself, no exceptions 2. Two forms of positive photo ID - driver's license and passport are good 3. Key Id, Key Type, Hex Fingerprint and Key size info ***Please print out your own copy of your info to compare against mine when you arrive *** 4. Pen / Pencil What you Should Not Bring 1. Computer I want to thank Chuck Anderson for helping me out. If you have any questions please let me know. Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGMBvKaiVxdKlBO58RAsCVAJ9cA488l+SybdxD+rgqNWGi/U9tUQCeMvH8 UAhMTFVRG5SbVVn5jqbVwqg= =BSzn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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MySQL Server Hardware
by joel d April 27, 2007

April 27, 2007

I'll take a stab at this one. At work our MySQL database contains product info and indexing data. The reasoning for designing and taking this outside of the business application is the business app. doesn't do web communication well (limited functionality and at times spotty app reliability). The business app doesn't matter (and I bet no one has heard of it anyway). Our design spec was hearty at a HP DL 385 with dual AMD CPUs (dual core I think) 5GB of RAM and around 7 internal 15k drives in RAID 5. Every bit of hardware is HP/Compaq. Without starting a distro thread we picked Red Hat AS V4. This combo has served us well and I am sure *many* other distros would do this at least as well. For us our biggest corporate reason for R.H. was most of our application vendors suported R.H in one way or another (a vote for getting good at only one skillset/distro). During application & DB development we considered uptime and ordered a second identical box mainly for a total server failure of any sort. They run very well as MySQL master and slave. In the year it has been up we are very happy with this combination. Feel free to forward any specific questions (direct or via the group). Hope this helps, Joel ============================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:59:55 -0400 From: "John Westcott, IV" <John.Westcott(a)tufts.edu> Subject: [Wlug] MySQL Server Hardware To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Message-ID: <20070424145955.3hftuclhdwg0ck4s(a)webmail.tufts.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Howdy All, I work in a place that has traditionally used Sun Sparc hardware running Solaris to host a production MySQL environment. We are going to be replacing our database servers this year and I am trying to determine if I want to maintain the norm or if I want to try to change. I am interested to see what other people use for hardware/OS for a production MySQL installation that requires a high amount of uptime. Thanks in advance for any replies. -John Westcott

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2 things
by Mike Leo April 24, 2007

April 24, 2007

We talked about this at one point: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070422-child-porn-case-shows-that-an… also.....wlug.org is down?

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Hauppauge 500 woes
by Mike April 22, 2007

April 22, 2007

I've been working on setting up a MythTV box with a Hauppauge 500. The reception I am getting is a bit grainy. I read that it could be the firmware, too high of a signal, or too low of a signal. I took care of the firmware last night by following the directions on their wiki. The picture is still a bit grainy. Before I go out an buy a signal booster I was wondering if anyone had any ideas or experience with the 500. ~Mike -- They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security --Ben Franklin

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New ULTRA1 - one step forward, two steps backward....
by ken jones April 20, 2007

April 20, 2007

Folks, When the box failed to boot, you might remember, it complained that the kernel was "too old". I remade the box using the newer kernel 2.6.20. I apparently configured the correct silo.conf (there are five of them in there when using the livecd). It looked like it was going to BOOT!! :-) See below..... Trouble is this is as far as it got. I printed and used as reference the Gentoo Linux 2006.1 SPARC Handbook, the Using UTF08 with Gentoo document and the Gentoo Upgrading Guide. Nevertheless I had a very difficult time with manual configuration of the kernel. I had not the faintest idea which modules I could ignore and which I needed to modularize Question: is there a log somewhere? I did emerge syslog-ng. Another question: Where is the detailed documentation on all the modules? Final question: How do I get a hint at what I did wrong? Ken ----------------snip of hyperterminal watching SUN ULTRA boot.------------ Sun Ultra 1 UPA/SBus (UltraSPARC 200MHz), No Keyboard OpenBoot 3.11, 192 MB memory installed, Serial #9633364. Ethernet address 8:0:20:92:fe:54, Host ID: 8092fe54. Initializing Memory \ Initializing Memory \ Initializing Memory \ Initializing Memory - Initializing Memory - Boot device: disk File and args: SILO Version 1.4.13 boot: Allocated 8 Megs of memory at 0x40000000 for kernel Loaded kernel version 2.6.20 Remapping the kernel... done. Booting Linux... -----------------------------------end snip-----------------------------

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3D support
by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com April 19, 2007

April 19, 2007

I started looking for a new laptop. I'd like one that can play Neverwinter Nights with open source drivers. Obviously that is a problem since 3D support without the binary drivers is not great. I figured since the game is rather old a good cpu (or two for the duo) and a well supported open source driver (I remember hearing Intel having released an open source driver) that it could run reasonably. I asked some linux laptop vendors and everyone told me that I would need the binary drivers. Are they right and we still can't run a 5 year old game? Am I stuck waiting for nouveau? Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

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JOBS - Several Linux roles Embedded and Kernel projects
by John Spencer April 16, 2007

April 16, 2007

We have 2 clients in MA and one in NH that are looking for Linux experts for various consulting projects. Our Client in MA (6+ mths.) is a leading provider of comprehensive compliance and content control solutions. They offer comprehensive network and desktop solutions that provide comprehensive visibility and control of inappropriate activity and information leakage across all channels of communications. Linux systems, real time processing, networking, C++/C Developer (Principal Level) to work on a Second generation of product from scratch. Will leverage existing pieces from their current product but begin with a new scalable and modular architecture. Heavy LINUX systems exp. with Windows OR Heavy WINDOWS with Linux systems. Strong C++/C, Real-time processing. Agile Development- " High Quality/ Fast Paced". Using Eclipse and Subversion. Low-level programming with File Systems, etc. NO Java needed. They are using RedHat Linux 2.6 kernel. MUST HAVE: Have been part of a team that has shipped a product and/or built a product that was shipped. Experience getting a product through its life-cycle and gotten it to market. STRONG Communication Skills, Highly Collaborative, Results driven, No hand-holding, Strong Development. ************************************************************************ ** Consultant needed as part of a small team (in MA 6 mths temp to perm possible) to produce high quality functional specifications, design specifications, product code, unit tests, and build scripts as needed. You must also be able to rapidly and effectively troubleshoot, diagnose, and resolve defects in an existing code base. You must be comfortable selecting and maintaining an appropriate focus in your daily work that will range from broad and abstract system architecture issues to detailed and concrete implementation issues. Responsibilities: - Provide software support and integration for new hardware features as they get added to the platform - Provide Linux support to upgrade Linux distribution as well as associated build environment - Work on low level features such as Software Upgrade - Instrument code and help analyze resource utilization - Maintain code repository - Address operational issues - Work with team on code releases Requirements - BS or MS in Computer Science, or equivalent experience - Either Real-Time OS or DSP experience - Experience in Linux, C, C++, Perl - Innovation and attention to detail - Ability to work independently but to know to get direction when you need it - Ability to work well with others on a small focused team - Excellent written and oral skills - Ability to obtain security clearance ************************************************************************ ********************************************** Principal Software Engineer (6+ mths in southern NH) Our client is looking for a Sr. C++ developer to replace current functionality on their embedded cards with edge nodes Linux based servers. They are currently running 1500 streams/card and want to run 2500 streams/edge node. Must have experience at the Linux kernel, driver and file systems level. This is mostly new development with some porting of the existing functionality from the embedded card. Must have either SMP or experience writing code in a multiprocessor environment. If you are interested and qualified, please send your confidential resume to jspencer(a)optimaleng.com Regards, John John Spencer (978) 256-1113 ext 7608 jspencer(a)optimaleng.com OPTIMAL ENGINEERING PARTNERS "Your Optimal partner for full-lifecycle engineering services in embedded and real-time, systems and application development" www.optimalengineering.com <http://www.optimalengineering.com/>

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I am getting discouraged with Gentoo on ULTRA1
by ken jones April 16, 2007

April 16, 2007

For those of you who are kind enough to care....sigh. On my Ultra1 I succeeded in following the directions in <http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-sparc.xml> to the letter, or so I thought. I "emerge'd" successfully. I compiled successfully. I chroot'd successfully. I removed the CD from its drive. I boot'd and I got the following. yadda yadda yadda.... VFs: Mounted root(ext3 filesystem) readonly Mounted devfs on /dev FATAL: kernel too old Unimplemented SPARC system call 188 Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! Press Li-A to return to the boot prom I compiled kernel-2.4.34. I chose 2.4 over 2.6 because the handbook hinted I should.. Now I do not even know what questions to ask myself. I checked Google on the "kernel too old" message and the "Attempted to kill" message. I could not understand the few matches that it found. My bet is that I need bigger SCSI hard drives. I'll also be glad to shut up if this is getting boring. Ken

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New ULTRA1 success - almost
by ken jones April 15, 2007

April 15, 2007

I have succeeded in compiling Gentoo Linux-2.4.34-sparc kernel on my new ULTRA1. This machine-toy has kept me off the streets and out of trouble for the last couple days. (The weather has been cooperative toward the same end.) I have a question. The Gentoo instructions <http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-sparc.xml?part=1&chap=7#comp…> tell me that if my kernel is too big that it might not boot. "If the (uncompressed) size is bigger than 2.5 MB (for Sparc32) or 3.5 MB (for Sparc64), reconfigure your kernel until it doesn't exceed these limits. One way of accomplishing this is by having most kernel drivers compiled as modules. Ignoring this can lead to a non-booting kernel." My kernel after a strip command is still 3.7M. -----------snip from command line after a strip command----------- (chroot) livecd linux # strip -R .comment -R .note vmlinux (chroot) livecd linux # ls -lh vmlinux -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3.7M Apr 13 06:03 vmlinux --------------end snip---------------- Should I take this warning seriously? How do I figure out which drivers to deselect from menuconfig? lspci gives me no response. I am not sure what is in my machine. Ken Jones

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Funny Coincidence
by Eric Martin April 14, 2007

April 14, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 For those of you who like funny coincidences, I just want to point out that last year we had this exact same conversation about recycling comptuers (I sent an email on April 9th, 2006). http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/2006-April/005287.html Must be the whole 'Spring Cleaning' thing. Just thought some of you would find it interesting. Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFGIDxVaiVxdKlBO58RAn7lAJ9lNH/LeLtQM26PkEGCImuvgDr3QgCYpBNo ypatPpWtwOEQK+D48pDWFA== =lxe8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics
by Dick Goodman April 13, 2007

April 13, 2007

>Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV >and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga >computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. If you're a Worcester city resident, you can drop off at the Millbury St (used to be Ballard St) recycling center for $5 a pop (computers and monitors) ...only time I had a problem was doing a major cleanout, about 10 of each, convincing them I was not a business Call for an appointment time. www.ci.worcester.ma.us look under Public Works & Parks, Residential Drop-Off Center Dick

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Re: [Wlug] New to the group
by Mike Leo April 12, 2007

April 12, 2007

i also live in leominster and work in Cambridge...small world i guess. I haven't been to a meeting in a while, but if i go and you need a ride, let me know. ----- Original Message ---- From: Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> To: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:53:06 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] New to the group Hi Andy, and hello to everyone in WLUG! I will definitely try to make May's meeting. I have been working on various X-nix based systems since 1999 (Solaris, HPUX, AIX, Red-Hat, and now CRUX). I do a lot in Perl, MySQL, Nagios, BASH, and Apache. Interests...varies depending on what I am doing at any given time. I would like to learn more about IPC programming and multi-process threading in X-nix. I like getting my hands dirty working with hardware. I would not mind learning more about building custom hardware that interfaces with a system...perhaps robotics or telecom (don't get the wrong idea, I have little knowledge in this area right now). Tal PS Oh, and I live in Leominster...but work in Boston -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:44 AM To: wlug(a)cohen123.com Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] New to the group -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tal Cohen wrote: > Hi, > I am new to this group. I want to find out when the meetings are, and > when. > > Thanks, > Tal HI Tal, Welcome to WLUG! I just got home from this evening's meeting. I got the sense that it went well. I'm stuffed with pizza and soda. Hopefully you'll be able to come to a few meetings and meet folks. We meet once per month at WPI in Worcester, MA USA. Let us know if you have other questions about the group, and we'll be sure to answer them. Also, I'm sure people are curious about your interest and experience with Linux, so please, do tell. See ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGHbkHHl0iXDssISsRAsyPAJwJK0ld/6c/I/2bhsO/aY14PUpz1QCePqNx FSyZOMpNzsBRJGHQc6bUTNQ= =BRds -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] New to the group
by Terry S April 11, 2007

April 11, 2007

Hi Tal, Welcome to WLUG! I'm new too, joined a couple weeks ago and this is my first meeting also. Sincerely, Terry S.

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Re: [Wlug] New to the group
by Mike Leo April 11, 2007

April 11, 2007

http://wlug.org/meetings.html and welcome to the pack.....are groups of penguins called packs? ----- Original Message ---- From: Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:59:11 AM Subject: [Wlug] New to the group Hi, I am new to this group. I want to find out when the meetings are, and when. Thanks, Tal _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics
by freak4uxxx＠gmail.com April 11, 2007

April 11, 2007

the city has just hooked up with somebody and its free up to a certain day. Give customer service a call at 508 929 1300 and they can fill you in. -Eric -----Original Message----- From: Dick Goodman <wlug(a)goodman1.net> Subj: Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics Date: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:39 pm Size: 712 bytes To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV >and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga >computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. If you're a Worcester city resident, you can drop off at the Millbury St (used to be Ballard St) recycling center for $5 a pop (computers and monitors) ...only time I had a problem was doing a major cleanout, about 10 of each, convincing them I was not a business Call for an appointment time. www.ci.worcester.ma.us look under Public Works & Parks, Residential Drop-Off Center Dick _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics
by Mike Leo April 11, 2007

April 11, 2007

East Coast Electronics Recycling Inc. 59 Williams St., Leominster MA 01453, United States Private Company, Headquarters Location (978) 537-9940 I went there with 2 car loads of PC parts and printers and maybe a tv. 3 guys unloaded my car onto a scale....i paid 10cents per pound. Conveniently located near the junction of 190 & rt2, behind the mall. Hope this helps ----- Original Message ---- From: Adam Keck <ghostis(a)gmail.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:36:39 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics Hello Mike, I have an old TV taking up space as well. Can you provide more details? Thanks! -Adam On 4/10/07, Mike Leo < mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: there is a place in leominster that will take it at 10c/lb.....meaning you pay them 10c for every pound of whatever you want to get rid of. They are behind the "Sears town mall" now re-named "The Mall at Whitney Field". I can give more details if interested. ----- Original Message ---- From: "dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com" < dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:54:13 PM Subject: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- -Adam _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics
by Mike Leo April 10, 2007

April 10, 2007

there is a place in leominster that will take it at 10c/lb.....meaning you pay them 10c for every pound of whatever you want to get rid of. They are behind the "Sears town mall" now re-named "The Mall at Whitney Field". I can give more details if interested. ----- Original Message ---- From: "dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com" <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:54:13 PM Subject: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Recycling Electronics
by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com April 10, 2007

April 10, 2007

Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

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Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics
by Jamie Guinan April 10, 2007

April 10, 2007

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com wrote: > Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV > and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga > computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. http://www.mass.gov/dep/recycle/reduce/crtrsbz.htm http://www.wastecap.org/wastecap/rsd2003/ I paid $30 to get rid of a dead 27in Sony at E.L. Harvey in Westborough. I would have looked around for a better deal (my town takes them for $10, between 9am-noon *one* day a year), but I had to make room in my garage. -Jamie

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ULTRA1 Gentoo Install presents a problem
by ken jones April 10, 2007

April 10, 2007

Mike wrote: "I fear you have just only gotten through the easy part!!" Mike's words rang true this morning. While doing "tar xvjf /mnt/gentoo/portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr" the machine stopped dead. This has happened twice. I fear that I do not have enough hard disk space, but I would hope for a gentler error message. Here is Gentoo Install's last gasp while extracting the Portage snap shot. I was connected to the Gentoo box via ssh. ------------snip from tar output--------- portage/eclass/tla.eclass portage/eclass/perl-app.eclass portage/eclass/gtk-engines.eclass portage/eclass/perl-post.eclass portage/eclass/rpm.eclass portage/eclass/rox.eclass portage/eclass/xfree.eclass Read from remote host 192.168.1.110: No route to host Connection to 192.168.1.110 closed. [1]+ Done emacs /root/.ssh/known_hosts [root@kjones-fedora .ssh]# --------end snip---------- At this point all terminals on the machine do not respond. Is there a way that I can get back to this stage? If I power cycle I get back to the livecd prompt and all my INSTALL work is lost - I think. If [stop a] works I still must boot cdrom to get started again. Any ideas? Here is the hard disk/partition setup. They are not very big :'( -----------snip from fdisk results---------- livecd gentoo # fdisk /dev/sda Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sda (Sun disk label): 16 heads, 135 sectors, 3880 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2160 * 512 bytes Device Flag Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 0 463 500040 83 Linux native /dev/sda2 u 463 694 249480 82 Linux swap /dev/sda3 0 3880 4190400 5 Whole disk /dev/sda4 694 3880 3440880 83 Linux native Command (m for help): q livecd gentoo # fdisk /dev/sdb Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sdb (Sun disk label): 19 heads, 80 sectors, 2733 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1520 * 512 bytes Device Flag Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 0 658 500080 83 Linux native /dev/sdb2 u 658 2733 1577000 83 Linux native /dev/sdb3 0 2733 2077080 5 Whole disk Ken Jones

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DSL testing
by Keith Wright April 10, 2007

April 10, 2007

After several years of near flawless working, I am starting to have trouble with my DSL connection. A few times per year the modem would lock-up. It was rare enough that I did not worry much, I figured it was due to lightening or cosmic rays. In any case, it was rare enough that I could think of no way to debug it, and there seemed to be no real reason to, the power went out more often than the DSL. Lately it has been happening several times a day, I just got done with a burst of about ten consecutive lock-ups. I will be browsing the web, or something and it will just quit working. Ping of the ISP's nearest computer (by IP addr) does not work. I go to the modem, pull out the power plug, wait a few seconds, plug it in, wait for it to boot up, and it works again until the next time. I complained to the ISP (Speakeasy) and the nice guy there said: > I had a look at your circuit and see a sync at 1536 > kbps Downstream / 384 kbps Upstream with decibel > margins of 2.0 dB Downstream / 17.0 dB Upstream. The > downstream decibel margins are very low and as a > result, your line is incrementing heavy errors. I asked if I could see these numbers myself, so that I could try some re-wiring to see if it made the problem better (or worse). He said: > You won't be able to see real time Layer 2 stats of > your circuit, as this information is accessed from > the DSLAM in the Central Office. But I know I have heard some of you talking about statistics gathering programs for network performance. Does anyone know of a program that might help to see how well a DSL line is working, or other diagnostic tools for this? -- Keith

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Re: [Wlug] Revised Consulting project - Embedded Linux developer
by Clint Moyer April 10, 2007

April 10, 2007

I'm pretty sure we've never seen any pissing matches on this mailing list. Let's squelch this discussion before it becomes one, shall we? Clint ---- John Spencer <jspencer(a)optimaleng.com> wrote: ============= Keith, Not sure why you felt compelled to be so publicly negative. My personal contact info was on the posting. You could have contacted me directly. Perhaps you had a bad day when you read this and could not resist the temptation to slam someone you don't know. There are any number of factors that could cause a company to revise their needs. One item that I am sure is NOT on that list as you state is "they have no idea what they are doing, but would love to have a consultant to blame". For further clarification, this project always required strong embedded Linux and C skills. They are now hoping to find someone that also has the J2ME, but know that is a difficult skill to find and may have some resources that can chip in and help with that part of the project. It also gives someone the opportunity to pick up some J2ME skills. If anyone, including you Keith, would like to discuss this further, please feel free to give me a call or send me an email directly. Regards, John (978) 256-1113 x7608 jspencer(a)optimaleng.com OPTIMAL ENGINEERING PARTNERS "Your Optimal partner for full-lifecycle engineering services in embedded and real-time, systems and application development" -----Original Message----- From: Keith Wright [mailto:kwright@keithdiane.us] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:51 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org; John Spencer Subject: Re: [Wlug] Revised Consulting project - Embedded Linux developer > From: "John Spencer" <jspencer(a)optimaleng.com> > > My client in MA has the following needs for ... At first I thought this was just a repost of a message from a week ago, but it is, in fact, a revision. Other than some trivial re-formatting and typo correction, these are the differences: $ diff consult.txt consult-new.txt 6c6 < Linux J2ME consultant(s). --- > an embedded Linux/C consultant(s). 21c21 < Mobile Embedded Linux architect --- > Embedded Linux architect 34c34 < Linux, strong knowledge of Java ME(J2ME), --- > Linux and C. Any knowledge of Java ME(J2ME) is a plus, So it seems that in the last week the project has been changed from Java to C. You could take this as a sign that they are open to doing it in your favorite language, or you could take this as a sign that they have no idea what they are doing, but would love to have a consultant to blame. But you had better hurry > Estimated about 3 mths to do this piece of the project. > > The development team exists and is ready to begin the porting effort, > but needs strong guidance from an experienced, senior architect. Must > be able to start soon. because you are already late. -- Keith _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Revised Consulting project - Embedded Linux developer
by John Spencer April 10, 2007

April 10, 2007

My client in MA has the following needs for an embedded Linux/C consultant(s). This could be one position if the developer can do the architecture as well. Otherwise they will need an architect as well as a developer. If you are qualified and interested, please give me a call or send me an email. 1. Architect key changes to their thin client which is Linux 2.6 based which is being moved over to a mobile device. The key is architecture. Strong documentation, strong embedded Linux (ideally 2.6). Estimated about 3 weeks to do the architecture. 2. Development role will include constructing the framework, defining the API, implementing lower layer (abstraction) interfaces from sockets to application stacks like SIP/RTP, etc. strong C and Linux. Embedded Linux architect required to perform high level analysis and design work for a project that involves porting an existing thick client to a Linux/Java environment for the mobile industry. Consultant's responsibilities will include: - taking the recommendations from the customer - quickly learning the existing client architecture - identifying and developing the best approach to porting the client - delivering a complete design and porting guide using best practices - remaining available for ad-hoc consultation throughout the stages of the port Successful consultant must have solid experience in embedded Linux and C. Any knowledge of Java ME(J2ME) is a plus, experience in designing clients for such environments, and the proven ability to lead a team in the initial design phases of a project. Estimated about 3 mths to do this piece of the project. The development team exists and is ready to begin the porting effort, but needs strong guidance from an experienced, senior architect. Must be able to start soon. Regards, John John Spencer (978) 256-1113 ext 7608 jspencer(a)optimaleng.com OPTIMAL ENGINEERING PARTNERS "Your Optimal partner for full-lifecycle engineering services in embedded and real-time, systems and application development" www.optimalengineering.com <http://www.optimalengineering.com/>

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Consulting project - Linux kernel
by John Spencer April 10, 2007

April 10, 2007

Our client in MA (LOCAL and QUALIFIED Candidates only please) has a need for a Linux kernel consultant for a 6+ mth project. Kernel development project in embedded Linux development team. Job responsibilities include bringing up Linux 2.6 kernel in new embedded system, integrating kernel into build control system, bug fixing and new additions. This kernel work will be across a diversity of kernel subsystems. Linux kernel support, system tuning, and platform software development. DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES include the following: - Candidate should have kernel development experience with Linux or UNIX operating systems. They are currently working with Linux 2.4.21 specifically for legacy and 2.6.current for new embedded environment. - Familiarity required with kernel debugging, process management, and kernel system management interfaces. - Kernel-level driver development and system tuning. - Understand the design and implementation of the Linux operating system and have prior experience with the installation and configuration of Linux and system utilities - Familiarity with the following processors: PowerPC 440GP for legacy and Freescale for new is a plus. - Perform system-level and regression testing. - Security patch integration. - Knowledge and understanding of IP protocols - Knowledge of USB drivers If you are interested and qualified, please send email to jspencer(a)optimaleng.com Regards, John John Spencer (978) 256-1113 ext 7608 jspencer(a)optimaleng.com OPTIMAL ENGINEERING PARTNERS "Your Optimal partner for full-lifecycle engineering services in embedded and real-time, systems and application development" www.optimalengineering.com <http://www.optimalengineering.com/>

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REMINDER: Upcoming WLUG Meeting
by Andy Stewart April 8, 2007

April 8, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, We have a WLUG meeting coming up on Wednesday, April 11th, at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. At this meeting, Andy Stewart will give a presentation on his recent work with the Delcom USB I/O Development Board. Part of this work involves writing a Linux kernel device driver for the board, which will be discussed in some detail. This is my first attempt at writing a Linux device driver. The hardware is exposed to the user via sysfs. Reference usbled.c to get an idea of how this driver is coded. Another part of this work involves hardware add-ons such as an I2C memory chip and a character LCD display, both of which will be demonstrated at the meeting. Yes, we'll see some blinking LEDs, too! Afterwards, we'll talk about the May meeting, and my hope that we can have a PGP key signing party at that meeting. I'm looking for a volunteer or two to run the May meeting, since I don't know how to properly run a PGP key signing. Besides that, I'm hoping to get my passport back from the US Govt. before that meeting (it is being renewed). I'll bring these books for the free raffle: - The Ruby Way - 2nd Edition, Addison-Wesley - Java in a Nutshell, O'Reilly (used) - User Mode Linux, Prentice Hall We should also talk about this summer's WLUG party/BBQ. If there is anybody who lives nearby that would like to host the party, please let me know. (BTW, what ever happened to the pictures from last year?) We'll then adjourn to the Tech Pizza restaurant for food, drink, and good conversation. See ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGGSVMHl0iXDssISsRAhakAJsGCJppUrc6ApUydyB8ySXWQuHWAgCePvG4 ySP5mx39OBBoOx7u2t7iNE8= =04D0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Success with my bootless ULTRA1
by ken jones April 8, 2007

April 8, 2007

Thank you all for your suggestions. The SUN ULTRA1 booted! The screen said, " Welcome to Gentoo Linux LiveCD". The trick was from the "ok" prompt to get the address of the CD reader. This was done using devalias. Then ok> boot /sbus/SUNW, fas@e,8800000/sd@6, 0:f worked! I do not know gentoo at all having cut my teeth on aurora and fedora. This will be an adventure. Thanks again everyone. Ken Jones

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Re: [Wlug] Success with my bootless ULTRA1
by Mike Leo April 8, 2007

April 8, 2007

I fear you have just only gotten through the easy part!! Good luck with Gentoo.....(insert diabolical laughter) ----- Original Message ---- From: ken jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> To: WLUG <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2007 11:39:06 AM Subject: [Wlug] Success with my bootless ULTRA1 Thank you all for your suggestions. The SUN ULTRA1 booted! The screen said, " Welcome to Gentoo Linux LiveCD". The trick was from the "ok" prompt to get the address of the CD reader. This was done using devalias. Then ok> boot /sbus/SUNW, fas@e,8800000/sd@6, 0:f worked! I do not know gentoo at all having cut my teeth on aurora and fedora. This will be an adventure. Thanks again everyone. Ken Jones _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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ping command expansion
by Chuck Noyes April 5, 2007

April 5, 2007

Hi All, I want to ping lots and lots of consecutive ip addresses. If I issue ping 192.168.1.{1,2,3}, I get ping 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.3 which isn't exactly what I want. How can I issue a "short-hand" ping command, that will expand to ping 192.168.1.1 ping 192.168.1.2 ping 192.168.1.3 etc. TIA, -- -Chuck

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My bootless ULTRA1
by ken jones April 4, 2007

April 4, 2007

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Consulting project - Linux J2ME Architect and developer
by John Spencer April 4, 2007

April 4, 2007

My client in MA has the following needs for Linux J2ME consultant(s). This could be one position if the developer can do the architecture as well. Otherwise they will need and architect as well as a developer. If you are qualified and interested, please give me a call or send me an email. 1. Architect key changes to their thin client which is Linux 2.6 based which is being moved over to a mobile device. The key is architecture. Strong documentation, strong embedded Linux (ideally 2.6). Estimated about 3 weeks to do the architecture. 2. Development role will include constructing the framework, defining the API, implementing lower layer (abstraction) interfaces from sockets to application stacks like SIP/RTP, etc. strong C and Linux. Mobile Embedded Linux architect required to perform high level analysis and design work for a project that involves porting an existing thick client to a Linux/Java environment for the mobile industry. Consultant's responsibilities will include: - taking the recommendations from the customer - quickly learning the existing client architecture - identifying and developing the best approach to porting the client - delivering a complete design and porting guide using best practices - remaining available for ad-hoc consultation throughout the stages of the port Successful consultant must have solid experience in embedded Linux, strong knowledge of Java ME(J2ME), experience in designing clients for such environments, and the proven ability to lead a team in the initial design phases of a project. Estimated about 3 mths to do this piece of the project. The development team exists and is ready to begin the porting effort, but needs strong guidance from an experienced, senior architect. Must be able to start soon. Regards, John John Spencer (978) 256-1113 ext 7608 jspencer(a)optimaleng.com OPTIMAL ENGINEERING PARTNERS "Your Optimal partner for full-lifecycle engineering services in embedded and real-time, systems and application development" www.optimalengineering.com <http://www.optimalengineering.com/>

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vpn solution
by Michael Long April 3, 2007

April 3, 2007

I now have a need to setup a vpn to my office network and I have just enough admin skills to be dangerous. I am running opensuse 10.2. Am I better off installing openswan (or some other vpn solution) or purchasing an appliance with a vpn built into it. My main concerns are ease of use and security. I am currently using a linksys router as my firewall and gateway to the internet. Each of my computers inside the network also have there own firewalls. Thanks, Mike

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Re: [Wlug] vpn solution
by freak4uxxx＠gmail.com April 3, 2007

April 3, 2007

do you just need remote access (shell / email) or do you need a bunch of stuff? while I don't have much expirience w/vpns, tunnelling via ssh handles what I do very well. Add securing it via pub/priv keys and its set. -Eric -----Original Message----- From: Michael Long <mlong(a)datalong.com> Subj: [Wlug] vpn solution Date: Tue Apr 3, 2007 7:21 am Size: 601 bytes To: WLUG <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> I now have a need to setup a vpn to my office network and I have just enough admin skills to be dangerous. I am running opensuse 10.2. Am I better off installing openswan (or some other vpn solution) or purchasing an appliance with a vpn built into it. My main concerns are ease of use and security. I am currently using a linksys router as my firewall and gateway to the internet. Each of my computers inside the network also have there own firewalls. Thanks, Mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Seeking help with a USB barcode scanner
by Jamie Guinan April 3, 2007

April 3, 2007

On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Andy Stewart wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tim Keller wrote: > > This is what I would do. > > > > 1. Install "lsusb". It behaves much like lspci so you can what devices > > are on your system. > > > > When you do a "lsusb" it'll list what devices are hanging off of each > > USB bus. Do a before and after so you can see the major/minor numbers. > > > > 2. When you know the devices major and minor number you can write a > > program using libusb that'll look for the device, open the device if it > > exists, take posession of it and then read data to and from it, hopefully. > > http://libusb.sourceforge.net/doc/examples-code.html > > > > Looking at that example, I don't think it would be too hard to whip up a > > program to open the device and then loop until there's input and then > > dump it on the screen. > > > > Thanks, > > Tim. > > HI Tim, > > Thanks for the tip about libusb. I have lsusb installed, and I also > have usbview. > > I'm surprised that I can't find the proper thing to "cat" to see output > from the barcode reader. That would be the shell equivalent of what you > propose. If I could find that, I'd be in business. I'm 99% certain > that I'm looking in the right place. Now, I wonder if it is possible > that the barcode reader is defective.......hummmmm. > > Once I find the right file to "cat", whipping up a program to grab the > bytes and deal with them would be fairly trivial, I agree. > > Thanks! > > Andy It might be that the device needs some initialization before it will start returning data. I wouldn't expect this for a HID device, but since the event* nodes aren't showing anything, who knows... In the kernel, it would be interesting to see what happens if you turn on DEBUG in hid-input.c, which currently contains, #undef DEBUG ... static void hidinput_configure_usage() ... goto ignore; // lots of these gotos! -jamieg ... ignore: #ifdef DEBUG printk("IGNORED\n"); #endif -Jamie

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New Paging System Makes Scrolling Obsolete
by Bruce Linnell April 3, 2007

April 3, 2007

http://www.dorks.com/videos/books.html

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Re: [Wlug] Seeking help with a USB barcode scanner
by Jamie Guinan April 2, 2007

April 2, 2007

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hi Everybody, > > Jamie Guinan wrote: > > > >> See if "evdev" is loaded, then try reading the various > >> /dev/input/event* nodes. > > Yes, evdev is loaded and I see some /dev/input/event* nodes. The unique > ones for this device (that show up when I plug in the device) are event3 > and event4. Also, I see mouse1 and ts1. > > > > >> I have a USB keyboard here. Oh neat, under 2.6.19, they even give you > >> a path that matches the device ids, > > > >> # od -x /dev/input/by-id/usb-1241_1203-event-kbd > >> (tap tap tap...) > >> 0000000 92a9 460e 0000 0000 36dc 000b 0000 0000 > >> 0000020 0001 001c 0000 0000 92a9 460e 0000 0000 > >> 0000040 36e0 000b 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 > >> ... > > In /dev/input/by-id, I see: > usb-Cypress_Cypress_PS.2_Keyboard-event-{kbd,mouse} > usb-Cypress_Cypress_PS.2_Keyboard-mouse > > I tried your "od -x" trick on each of these to no avail. I pointed the > barcode scanner at some arbitrary barcodes, and it beeped and turned off > the red light, but nothing appeared on my screen as a result of the "od -x". > > Are there other possibilities to consider? At this point I'd start putting printk's and turning on DEBUGs in the kernel source. For starters, drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c:hid_input_report() drivers/usb/input/hid-input.c:hidinput_configure_usage() I typically do something like this, $ make $ make modules_install INSTALL_MOD_PATH=$(pwd)/tmp (don't go installing under /lib just yet) $ rmmod foo $ insmod ./tmp/..../foo.ko [ unplug, replug, dmesg, tail messages, rinse, repeat ] -Jamie

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Re: [Wlug] "Filesize limit exceeded" error
by freak4uxxx＠gmail.com April 2, 2007

April 2, 2007

what's the filesystem? -Eric -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Noyes <vze284qe(a)verizon.net> Subj: [Wlug] "Filesize limit exceeded" error Date: Sun Apr 1, 2007 2:02 pm Size: 505 bytes To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Hi All, I'm trying to copy a 7.9GB tgz file to an external USB drive. The external drive is 500GB. About half way through the cp process, I get the error message: 8119 file size limit exceeded cp maui-Sun.tgz /media/My\ Book/chuck/ There's plenty of space on the USB drive. I'm running 'edgy eft' on a laptop. Any ideas on what might be going on here?? TIA, -- -Chuck _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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"Filesize limit exceeded" error
by Chuck Noyes April 1, 2007

April 1, 2007

Hi All, I'm trying to copy a 7.9GB tgz file to an external USB drive. The external drive is 500GB. About half way through the cp process, I get the error message: 8119 file size limit exceeded cp maui-Sun.tgz /media/My\ Book/chuck/ There's plenty of space on the USB drive. I'm running 'edgy eft' on a laptop. Any ideas on what might be going on here?? TIA, -- -Chuck

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Re: [Wlug] Seeking help with a USB barcode scanner
by Jamie Guinan March 31, 2007

March 31, 2007

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Andy Stewart wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > HI everybody, > > Does anybody in the group have any experience using a USB barcode > scanner with Linux? Its tough to google for "barcode scanner" since > each term brings up its own set of things which aren't what I seek. > > In particular, I have been loaned a USB barcode scanner which is made by > PSC, Inc. with model number QS2500. When I plug it into my laptop, the > USB vendor and device IDs are 04B4:0101. I looked this up on the Linux > USB devices website and it has multiple references (mostly to USB > keyboards). > > I think this device is being handled as a USB HID device, but I'm not > certain. Hi Andy, See if "evdev" is loaded, then try reading the various /dev/input/event* nodes. I have a USB keyboard here. Oh neat, under 2.6.19, they even give you a path that matches the device ids, # od -x /dev/input/by-id/usb-1241_1203-event-kbd (tap tap tap...) 0000000 92a9 460e 0000 0000 36dc 000b 0000 0000 0000020 0001 001c 0000 0000 92a9 460e 0000 0000 0000040 36e0 000b 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ... C code, #include <linux/input.h> int keyboardFd = open(kbdev, O_RDWR); struct input_event ev; int n = read(keyboardFd, &ev, sizeof(ev)); See the fields in ev, you'll get events for press/release, keycode, etc. Have fun! -Jamie > > I'm wondering if Linux has any software that would read the value from a > barcode scanner and do something with it. If I knew which device file > was used, maybe I could "cat <devfile>" and see some output when I > scanned a barcode. > > Note that there are several examples of software for printing barcodes, > but that's not what I need (at least not yet). > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks! > > Andy > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) > Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) > Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGDcRgHl0iXDssISsRAjF2AJ98hr6d4i2EMSQ5AvAWiiyfPLHdWACeLSm+ > uCN6IcuTTYvDZbz44z+t4I4= > =gdbi > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Gigabit NICs for Linux
by sageman＠WPI.EDU March 31, 2007

March 31, 2007

All, Recently, I've been looking to upgrade my current network setup and make the push to gigabit. At the moment, I'm looking for any suggestions on gigabit NICs that folks have got working under the 2.6 kernel, preferably without too much effort. I'm currently looking at the Rosewill RC-400, which supposedly uses the r8169 module. Any one happen to have any luck with that? Additionally, I'm looking for a gigabit switch. Only need like 4-8 ports and would like it, again, to work very easily. Never used a switch, just hubs and routers. Right now, have a hub hooked into a router. From what I understand, if I replace the hub with a switch, it should *just work*. Basically, a switch is like a hub, but with full duplex support and maybe some fancy QoS features or something, right? My plan is to plug the high bandwidth internetwork connections into the switch which then connects into my router and through to a cable modem. Basically, fast connection on the network for transferring files, streaming and such, but, when it comes to the internet, cable modem is the bottleneck, so who cares if the router supports gigabit, right? Does this sound reasonable to you network folks out there? Thanks for all your help! Carlton Stedman

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Re: [Wlug] Seeking help with a USB barcode scanner
by Mike Leo March 31, 2007

March 31, 2007

we had a demo model, too....it basically just scanned in the data as if you typed it in on the keyboard. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Cc: Brian J. Conway <bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu>; andystewart(a)comcast.net Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:44:56 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Seeking help with a USB barcode scanner On Friday 30 March 2007, Brian J. Conway wrote: > We used similar devices extensively in our wafer fab at my old job (hi > Mike), moo > though not under Linux more than a couple times as my desk. Since > my experience is only partially relevant, I can offer a few words as a > start. The scanners we used had interchangeable cables: When using a PS/2 > wedge (pass-thru) cable, it sat between the keyboard and the computer and > passed data as a standard keyboard, no drivers required and OS-agnostic. > When using a USB cable, it functioned as an HID device, and required only > the standard Windows HID keyboard driver. Scanning would send data as an > HID keyboard input. In both cases, it was transparent to any program we > were using (a simple terminal emulator, in our case), but we did need to > scan a configuration code out of the manual each time we changed cable > types. yeah, the scanners tend to be pretty simplistic ... they usually just send the scanned barcode values straight through ... actually, you'd be surprised how many of these things are runnnig Linux themselves ... some of them you can hijack, but once you get past the novelty of it, the device isnt terribly useful without their application ... -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Seeking help with a USB barcode scanner
by Andy Stewart March 31, 2007

March 31, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, Does anybody in the group have any experience using a USB barcode scanner with Linux? Its tough to google for "barcode scanner" since each term brings up its own set of things which aren't what I seek. In particular, I have been loaned a USB barcode scanner which is made by PSC, Inc. with model number QS2500. When I plug it into my laptop, the USB vendor and device IDs are 04B4:0101. I looked this up on the Linux USB devices website and it has multiple references (mostly to USB keyboards). I think this device is being handled as a USB HID device, but I'm not certain. I'm wondering if Linux has any software that would read the value from a barcode scanner and do something with it. If I knew which device file was used, maybe I could "cat <devfile>" and see some output when I scanned a barcode. Note that there are several examples of software for printing barcodes, but that's not what I need (at least not yet). Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGDcRgHl0iXDssISsRAjF2AJ98hr6d4i2EMSQ5AvAWiiyfPLHdWACeLSm+ uCN6IcuTTYvDZbz44z+t4I4= =gdbi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting topic(s)
by Terry S March 30, 2007

March 30, 2007

I have a new digital camera I haven't even used yet. I'd be more than happy to bring my camera. I'm curious to understand, will these be publicly viewable pictures, or *only* viewable to those who have your key? (P.S. I've never made a key before, so this is a good topic for me.) On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 11:03:05PM -0400, Keith Wright wrote: > > Also, maybe somebody with a digital camera > > could take pictures of WLUG leaders and > > followers, and put them on the web site, > > together with public key identifiers. > > Despite being told several times over the > > past few years, I don't remember most > > people's names, but I might be able to > > if I had a chance to practice at home > > with my web browser. > > > > It is only somewhat useful to have a > > record in your keyring that says you were > > once convinced that the name goes with the > > key, if you have totally forgotten what > > person goes with the name.

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Upcoming meeting topic(s)
by Andy Stewart March 29, 2007

March 29, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, We appear to have a choice of meeting topics for April: 1) PGP Key signing party 2) My talk about the USB Delcom driver that goes with this piece of hardware: http://www.delcom-eng.com/productdetails.asp?productnum=802004 I'd rather move my talk out to May, but I could do it for April if that what folks desire. If we do the key signing party, I am wondering if Eric and Chuck would like to team up to run it. If so, does the April meeting work for you? Thoughts? Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGCIrEHl0iXDssISsRAo1MAJ9X8rVpCxpQXSsF/TQwH2Jzv9HRBgCeMzzS WgmcOYfMRxy61ULEEkQHmMo= =oCZq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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JOBS - Linux consultants needed
by John Spencer March 28, 2007

March 28, 2007

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Re: [Wlug] Hello from new member. April topics?
by Terry S March 28, 2007

March 28, 2007

Thanks Christian and Eric, That's something I will take a look at sooner or later. If it's in "/etc/make.conf", that info would be applied in a recompile, correct? > > This is in fact specified in /etc/make.conf. > > The configuration line is SYNC="<SERVER>" > > - Christian Roy Eric Stein wrote: > > That is probably specified in /etc/make.conf. > > > > Eric > > > > Terry S wrote: >> >> Well, it was a while ago... >> >> >> >> ...in a nutshell, I was rebuilding base system and the portage tree a >> >> few months after install, following instructions posted and detailed >> >> reasoning explained by a senior Gentoo developer. >> >> >> >> After a few problems problems, the error that blocked me from fixing >> >> anything else was that the rsync server I chose at install time was no >> >> longer valid, which I verified by looking at the list again. But no >> >> one seemed to know how to change it, and I just couldn't deal with >> >> re-installing the whole thing at that time

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GPS on Linux
by Richard Klein March 24, 2007

March 24, 2007

Andy, I think you were talking about using a GPS receiver with Linux after the last meeting. The receiver I had mentioned came in a couple days ago. It's a Navibe SP611 (http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=NAVIBE-ORN) and it does indeed output NMEA 0183. The Navibe website is easy enough to find (http://www.navibe.com/) but it doesn't even acknowledge the existence of the SP611. Linux seems to recognize the serial/USB bridge in the GPS as a Prolific PL-2303: dmesg says: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 pl2303 2-1:1.0: pl2303 converter detected usb 2-1: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0 But I can't get GPSMan or GPSDrive to recognize it. "cat /dev/ttyUSB0" gets no response, and I have to hit CTRL-C to get the command prompt back. Per this page (http://koti.mbnet.fi/lonnberg/pl2303x.html) I found that bMaxPacketSize0 = 64, which suggests the bridge is a PL-2303X rather than a plain vanilla PL-2303. Apparently this used to require a patch, but only up to kernel 2.6.8. uname -r says I'm at 2.6.15-1-686, so this shouldn't be an issue. What should I try now? Oh, the GPS receiver did send a stream of NMEA data to my Windows computer at work with GPSDiag, so the reciever doesn't seem to be defective. -- Rich

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Meeting idea
by Eric Martin March 24, 2007

March 24, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I know I've said this at a few meetings, but is anybody up for having a key signing one night? We had one a while back that I missed. I've never run one but I have read a few docs on it. Any people interested? Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGBHM8aI8VEtSi4H8RAv3jAJ9oa0Fh4TkNNyPl6FDwx2gjhVNwQgCfYjXy j32HL5TsSg2y19EW1Yv4En8= =qK8i -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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An amusing background screen...
by Andy Stewart March 23, 2007

March 23, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ...or at least I thought so... http://badvista.fsf.org/blog/images/windowsvistaballmerpiraxz7.jpg - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGBGSBHl0iXDssISsRAn3NAJ4iJAeiS33R4IOBXmNNKbBh0QwnngCeONLN tnWAhKuMnuzQX54yP2qErtI= =U2BM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Hello from new member. April topics?
by Terry S March 23, 2007

March 23, 2007

Hello, My name is Terry. I've wanted to attend WLUG meetings for a couple years but the schedule never worked out. Right now, Wednesdays are good! I look forward to seeing what the meetings are like and the mixture of people. Recently installed Slackware on one of my PCs. Looking forward to re-learn the basics (had a long illness, then just other stuff), move to Linux for the long haul, and be productive using its software. *Suggested April Topics?* - Package installation and updates (esp Mozilla products). - Avoiding problems with package-management systems (I had a nightmare with rsync on Gentoo). - Anything on setting up and configuring personal keys, certificates, basic firewall on Linux. Sincerely, Terry S. (p.s. to Eric Martin -- I think I know you. Did you teach a Night Life course on Linux?)

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Fw: Suse Linux Professional 10?
by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com March 21, 2007

March 21, 2007

Thanks to all who responded to my query. I really got a lot of good information and food for thought! Doug ----- Forwarded by Doug Aker/EMPL/MA/Verizon on 03/21/2007 06:28 PM ----- Doug Aker/EMPL/MA/Verizon 03/20/2007 02:33 PM To "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> cc Subject Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux Professional 10? OK, did so more research. Looks like it's called OpenSuse 10.2. Read some reviews. Some good, some not so good. Also considering switching to Fedora Core 4 or (K)Ubuntu 6.10. Any thoughts for or against these distro's? Has anyone ever used: http://www.thelinuxstore.ca/ ? Thanks, Doug Doug Aker/EMPL/MA/Verizon@VZNotes Sent by: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org 03/20/2007 10:54 AM Please respond to "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> To "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> cc Subject [Wlug] Suse Linux Professional 10? Hi all: The last Suse Linux software I purchased for laptop use was Suse Linux Professional 9.2. Looking now to upgrade to 10. Anyone know the latest Suse release for desktop use? And I don't think they call it "Suse Linux Professional" anymore. And did Suse ever solve that Yast slowness problem (at least I think it was something like that). Thanks, Doug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Progress with new Sparc????
by ken jones March 21, 2007

March 21, 2007

Doug et al I found my cross over cables. printenv told me to set up at 9600bps ASCI 8 none 1. I have tried VT100 and auto-detect. When I turn on the sparc it tells me that it is using ttya for input. However, my hyperterminal sees nothing. If I slow down the expected clock rate to 2400 I get to letters "pp" when I startup the sparc. I do not get "ok" and I get no response when I hit the "Enter" key. Too bad, since that connection would allow me to show you what my terminal is saying. I did get a good response from probe-scsi and probe-scsi-all. It saw both hard drives. I am now trying test-all. Last time it just hung but now it seems to be correctly testing the terminal screen. OKAY! I know something. Self test failed a Transceiver check. It says: Transceiver check -- failed Selftest Failed. Return Code = -1 Testing sbus@1f, 0/SUNW, fas@e 8800000 CE DMA fill from address ffef8000 for 80 bytes Testing sbus@1f, 0/SUNW fdtwo@f, 1400000 Testing floppy disk system. A formatted disk should be in the drive. No diskette or incorrect format. Self test failed. Return code = -1 I wondered what is the "transceiver test" which is failing. The word "transceiver" usually is referring to I/O. I was correct. I installed the ethernet cable and the transceiver test passed. I know one thing now. The CDROM reader does not work. Part of test-all is to check for a formatted disk in the reader. I put a known good disk in, but the SUN does not see it. That does not explain why it will not boot up correctly. It should note that there is no disk and boot to installed linux. My latest status is to try booting over my office network. I gave my home router/DHCP server the new sparc's ethernet address and assigned an IP address. I have no idea whether the sparc is configured to expect a DHCP address. I do not see where I can configure that. Ken Jones Doug Mildram wrote: > doug> I know the Sparc a bit. > > give me a call hell, i am trashing sparc's here, incl. 1 ultra1 > > also: sun keyboard is a big factor. If it's seen at powerup, > its the console (monitor or no monitor) > > if keyb not attached on powerup, > the com1 equivalent /dev/ttya (DIN or 25pin, varies) > becomes the console. > > > doug 508-243-6580 cell > > > MORE RANDOM TIPS TO MYSELF YEARS AGO: > on a SPARC instead of BIOS we have "eeprom" or "rom prompt".... > > There's no "F2" or "DELETE" hint during bootup, > but there is one "dangerous" way to stop either the OS or the boot-up. > > L1-a or STOP-A is like a ctl-Z to the OS...or an interrupt a bootup. > > eeprom prompt is "ok" > ok> > > If you accidentally STOP the OS by mistake you can get it to go BACK UP WITH > > ok> go > or maybe > ok> continue > > normally we do NOT DO MUCH with the eeprom settings, > AND, it is possible to tweak eeprom settings from either situation: > 1) from the ok> prompt with "setenv" > 2) from SOLARIS with # eeprom > > So you can see all the settings with a simple anyuser% /usr/sbin/eeprom > > Syntax is slightly different. I wont talk about UNIX "eeprom" anymore > except to say there is a man page. > > BACK TO THE ok> PROMPT you can...most notably: > > ok> setenv auto-boot? false > or > ok> setenv auto-boot? true > > the question mark is not a "wild character". It just implies > that it's a true/false parameter. > > false means it will *NOT* boot to solaris... on power up. > true means "normal"...will try to load solaris from boot-device > > a UNIX "reboot" command will override this setting. > > -----boot "device" in eeprom > NORMALLY the eeprom setting for boot-device has a few words > and "disk" should be the first word. > > ok> printenv boot-device > > may return disk diskbrd diskisp disksoc net > I only know what "disk" and "net" means..... > "net" is useless unless you have another "diskless server" set up. > > > > ok> probe-scsi (can you see the CD drive?) > Target 0 > Unit 0 Disk ..... > > > maybe not . but if the CD is on an external scsi bus you may need to say > > ok> probe-scsi-all (can you see the CD drive?) > > pci@1f,4000/scsi@3,1 (a 2nd controller for the external scsi port) > Target 6 > Unit 0 removable read only device TOSHIBA..... > Unit 0 Disk ..... > > pci@1f,4000/scsi@3 > Target 0 > Unit 0 Disk ..... > > BACK TO installation. hopefully you simply say: > > with solaris2.7 CD in the drive, > > ok> boot cdrom > > didnt work? it must have been looking for > > > ok> devalias > > shows > > cdrom /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@6,0:f > > BUT I HAD A CD drive on the 3,1 controller so I can say: > > boot /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3,1/disk@6,0:f > > AND THIS WORKED on this particular machine. > > (if you see the CD light come on, and eventually see some kernel string like > > SunOS 5.7 Generic_106541-17 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-Enterprise > > > THEN YOU KNOW you got the right command. > > Next you hope your CD and CD drive dont have too many read errors. > > ok> > > > SPECIAL BOOT ARGUMENT......to rebuild /dev* entries. > > lets say you ADD HARDWARE like a 2nd disk. > > UNIX% halt > ...add a disk if you can...then you'd want to > > ok> boot -r (THIS Reconfigures /dev and /devices, > so it would add /dev/???/??? for the new disk) > > SPECIAL BOOT ARGUMENT......to stop at singleuser. > > > ok> boot -s (would stop at runlevel 1 for the default kernel ..on disk?) > > But even then (unlike most unix's) it prompts you > for the root password, i think. So dont forget it. ------------------doug > > > >

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Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux Professional 10?
by Clint Moyer March 20, 2007

March 20, 2007

I could not get Compiz to work on OpenSuSe 10.2. Besides I can't advocate for Novell considering their recent partnership with MS. Any of the Ubuntus are great. The GUI frontend to apt works exceptionally well. After you've updated the list of repositories, adding pretty much any app is a simple point-n-click. It was pretty straightforward to load Nvidia's driver and setup Beryl. Sweet eye candy! In 13 years of using Linux, it's the first distro I've considered user-friendly enough to put on my kids' PC. If you want to be cutting edge, Ubuntu 7.4 officially releases next month. Of course, you can also get it right now. Clint ---- douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com wrote: ============= OK, did so more research. Looks like it's called OpenSuse 10.2. Read some reviews. Some good, some not so good. Also considering switching to Fedora Core 4 or (K)Ubuntu 6.10. Any thoughts for or against these distro's? Has anyone ever used: http://www.thelinuxstore.ca/ ? Thanks, Doug Doug Aker/EMPL/MA/Verizon@VZNotes Sent by: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org 03/20/2007 10:54 AM Please respond to "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> To "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> cc Subject [Wlug] Suse Linux Professional 10? Hi all: The last Suse Linux software I purchased for laptop use was Suse Linux Professional 9.2. Looking now to upgrade to 10. Anyone know the latest Suse release for desktop use? And I don't think they call it "Suse Linux Professional" anymore. And did Suse ever solve that Yast slowness problem (at least I think it was something like that). Thanks, Doug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Problems with a Sparc ULTRA1
by ken jones March 20, 2007

March 20, 2007

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Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux Professional 10?
by Bruce Linnell March 20, 2007

March 20, 2007

>From a neophyte's point of view, I'm pleased with oSuSE 10.2. I also installed using a DVD, but can't say it went without a hitch. The only problem was getting my USB wireless adapter to work. But I had already had that problem with Ubuntu and Gentoo. I never did get it to work directly (ended up using a NIC and a Buffalo wireless converter). But in the course of trying those three distros I decided I liked the oSuSE best...and I think it was YaST that tilted the scales. Again, I was a blank slate 3 months ago so I can't give you a "compare and contrast" with previous releases of oSuSE or YaST. Bruce On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 14:33 -0400, douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com wrote: > > OK, did so more research. Looks like it's called OpenSuse 10.2. Read > some reviews. Some good, some not so good. > > Also considering switching to Fedora Core 4 or (K)Ubuntu 6.10. Any > thoughts for or against these distro's? > > Has anyone ever used: http://www.thelinuxstore.ca/ ? > > Thanks, > Doug > > > > Doug Aker/EMPL/MA/Verizon@VZNotes > Sent by: > wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org > > 03/20/2007 10:54 AM > Please respond to > "Worcester Linux Users Group" > <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > > > > To > "Worcester Linux > Users Group" > <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > cc > > Subject > [Wlug] Suse Linux > Professional 10? > > > > > > > > > > Hi all: > > The last Suse Linux software I purchased for laptop use was Suse Linux > Professional 9.2. Looking now to upgrade to 10. Anyone know the > latest Suse release for desktop use? And I don't think they call it > "Suse Linux Professional" anymore. And did Suse ever solve that Yast > slowness problem (at least I think it was something like that). > > Thanks, > Doug _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Problems with a Sparc ULTRA1
by ken jones March 20, 2007

March 20, 2007

I just acquired by second Sparc ULTRA1 Creator. It does not boot. After much struggle complaining about not finding sda4, it concludes: VSF: can not open root device "sda4" or 08:04 Please append a correct "root=" boot device Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 08:04 Press L1-a to return to the boot prom I've tried booting from my aurora 1.0 iso disk set. No luck. I've tried booting from my just out of the envelope GENTOO disk. No luck. Before it gives up it seems to have found the two scsi drives. It says: Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id0, lun Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id1, lun It has found the following partitions partitions if that is what these are. /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4 and /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target1/lun0: p1 p3 I stopped the boot: with a "stop a". ok test scsi > CE DMA fill from address ffee2000 for 80 bytes succeeded Dma register test -- succeeded Esp register test -- succeeded Dma read test -- succeeded Dma write test -- succeeded Any ideas? Ken Jones

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Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux Professional 10?
by Mike Leo March 20, 2007

March 20, 2007

Yes. I hear nothing but awful awful things about Suse 10.0 and 10.1, especially in regards to Yast. 10.2 claims to have pulled it out of the fire, and people say Yast is improved. However, you don't have to stick with Yast....SMART is making headlines lately as the next end-all be-all package manager. I don't use Suse myself, so don't rely only on what I say. ~Mike ----- Original Message ---- From: Brett Russ <bruss(a)alum.wpi.edu> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:00:35 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux Professional 10? On 3/20/07, douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com <douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com> wrote: > The last Suse Linux software I purchased for laptop use was Suse Linux > Professional 9.2. Looking now to upgrade to 10. Anyone know the latest > Suse release for desktop use? And I don't think they call it "Suse Linux > Professional" anymore. And did Suse ever solve that Yast slowness problem > (at least I think it was something like that). Visit http://www.opensuse.org/ They're at 10.2. I think I'm on 10.1 at home and Yast is still slow and less functional than previous versions. Am thinking about trying one of the new designer distros (kubuntu maybe). Is the grass greener? BR _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux Professional 10?
by howard＠howardwhite.net March 20, 2007

March 20, 2007

<<The last Suse Linux software I purchasedfor laptop use was Suse Linux Professional 9.2. Looking now to upgradeto 10. Anyone know the latest Suse release for desktop use? AndI don't think they call it "Suse Linux Professional" anymore. And did Suse ever solve that Yast slowness problem (at least I thinkit was something like that).>> Go here and look at how to install Open SuSe for free. I downloaded it, put it on a DVD, and installed without a hitch. Then look on the OpenSuSe page for the Smart Package Manager (just add /Smart to the url), which is a nice utility for keeping all your apps up-to-date. HW (one of these days I'll actually come to a meeting...)

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Mail problem for a Monday morning
by Klein, Richard March 20, 2007

March 20, 2007

It's Monday morning, I'm tired, and I've got a headache, so I'm not sure I can even explain the problem right now, let alone solve it. Work seems to block port 25 (SMTP), but not 993 (IMAP-S) or 22 (SSH), so I can SSH into my (home) mail server, or read my mail via IMAP, but I can't send anything. My (home) email account doesn't have a shell account, so I can't log-in via SSH and send email in pine or something (and that would be a PITA, anyway). What are my options? Can I use putty to tunnel SMTP through port 22 SSH? One of these days I'll set up webmail and this will be a moot point, but I'm hoping for a quicker, more immediate solution. -- Thanks, Rich

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Image/Backup tools
by Michael Zarozinski March 18, 2007

March 18, 2007

Hi all, I'm looking for recommendations for backup/imaging tools. We have 2 servers runing RHEL4, one is a production server and the other a development server. We were recently hit with a DOS attack and possibly a root kit attack. It's been a long task re-installing all the software/tweaks we've made so I'm looking for something to ease this process if it happens in the future. Thanks in advance, Michael Z

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Stuff in need of a good home
by Eric Martin March 17, 2007

March 17, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As some of you know, my fiancee and I just bought our first home. We are moving in two weeks and I'm trying to clean out some stuff from my basement. I have a Sun Ultra1 Sparc64 with 17" monitor, an additional graphics card, 2 internal drives and a 1GB external drive. I can't find the keyboard and mouse right now but I'm sure they 'll turn up. For all of you mac enthusiasts, I have a Beige Mac G3 (oldworld) with monitor, keyboard and mouse. I did get gentoo to run on it via bootx, and I might even be able to scrounge up CDs. Lastly (for the moment) is a Blue iMac G3 (new world) with keyboard and mouse. Email me off list, freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com if you are interested. I would like to get rid of this before Wed March 28th. Stuff is on a first come, first serve basis. Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF++1saI8VEtSi4H8RAtRMAJ40/ChfNbomLtd22D9OLOgPP7ozzwCcCUNY Egrl9o5y+4EAVzCZbbMfzjI= =iwZW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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REMINDER: WLUG Meeting tonight, 7:00 PM
by Andy Stewart March 15, 2007

March 15, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, This is a reminder about the WLUG meeting: tonight! Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid Room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The Access Grid Room is located in Morgan Hall. See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+ABPHl0iXDssISsRAmDrAJ4s8q71un0jgDodu67q0gpKSVmE2ACcDQaz IBsc8Fm01bweWO/Pg/HtKNw= =XMxE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Apache2
by Michael Zarozinski March 8, 2007

March 8, 2007

Does anyone know of any reasons *not* to upgrade to Apache 2.x from the last Apache1 version (1.3.37)?

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Re: [Wlug] Window manager problem
by Bruce Linnell March 3, 2007

March 3, 2007

Andy, Eric, and Mike, Andy nailed it with "/opt/gnome/bin/gnome-wm". That got the manager back up, which, in this case was metacity, as Mike suggested. Once that was fixed I was able to continue and get xgl running so I now have the rotating cube desktop and other effects. Thank you all for the quick responses. Tux has happy feet again :-) Bruce

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Re: [Wlug] Window manager problem
by Mike Leo March 3, 2007

March 3, 2007

when mine screws up i start metacity ----- Original Message ---- From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 8:56:00 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Window manager problem -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andy Stewart wrote: > Andy Stewart wrote: >> Hi Bruce, > >> If you can fire up any window manager, it should allow you to manipulate >> your windows, bail out cleanly, or whatever you'd like to do (go back to >> Yast and turn off 3D, etc). > >> For KDE, the window manager is /opt/kde3/bin/kwin, if I'm not mistaken. >> If there is one terminal window available in which you can type a >> command, try that and see if it starts the window manager. > > Oops, now I've just read that you are using Gnome. OK, same thing > applies, but substitute in the name of the Gnome window manager. I > don't know what that might be, unfortunately. I'm sure somebody else > will chime in with that information. Try this: /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-wm - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6NWwHl0iXDssISsRAlMrAJ9Cs61hrvkS20MNoy81u79vRiOmbACeM3ZQ 7KSGDgmN7rzzFJ9BGilpwbQ= =2+Lo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Window manager problem
by Bruce Linnell March 3, 2007

March 3, 2007

Hi everyone, I'm running openSuSE 10.2, and decided I wanted to try some of the 3D Desktop effects. So I tried activating them through the YaST control panel. Now not only do I not have 3D effects, I seem to have lost my window manager as well. I can open apps and applets, utilities and folders, but none have a title bar to grab for moving the window, and none have the max, min, and close buttons, and if it doesn't have a close or quit option in a drop down menu, I can't close it (them). So I end up with a screen full of unmoveable, unresizeable, and in some cases, uncloseable windows. It reminds me of an old steamer trunk with decals plastered all over it. The boot screen only shows 2 icons just prior to opening the desktop: the desktop icon, and the Gnome footprint icon. The double window icon is no longer there. Booting as root is normal with all 3 icons in the splash screen, and full window(s) functionality. So this problem seems contained to my user account. I'm hopeful that restoring the window manager will also let me configure the 3D effects, but if not, I'd like to get back to normal. Any suggestions? Bruce

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(no subject)
by Bruce Linnell March 3, 2007

March 3, 2007

Oh yeah, I'm also using Gnome.

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SATA chipset Sil 3132
by Eric Stein March 2, 2007

March 2, 2007

Hi all, I've recently acquired some more hard drives and I just plugged one in to the secondary SATA ports on my motherboard for the first time. However, my Gentoo box isn't seeing it. I have an Abit AN8-32X motherboard (the other drives are on the Nvidia SATAII controller). For info about the board, go here: http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/an8-32x/ In make menuconfig (from the kernel I am running right now (2.6.18)): <*> Silicon Image chipset support My BIOS lists a drive in the Sil SATA display during IDE/SATA scanning. I have swapped the drive to the other controller to see if it is a hardware problem with the drive. It shows up in LSPCI, but it doesn't show up in fdisk -l. glamdring dev # lspci 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2) 00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2) 00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2) 00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2) 00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2) 00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2) 00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2) 00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2) 00:02.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 00:09.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory Controller (rev a4) 00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 ISA Bridge (rev a4) 00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2) 00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a4) 00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2) 00:0f.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 IDE (rev f3) 00:10.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3) <====== works fine 00:11.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3) <====== works fine 00:12.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCI Bridge (rev a2) 00:13.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3) 00:14.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:15.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:16.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:17.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:00.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3132 Serial ATA Raid II Controller (rev 01) <====== look, there it is 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)] (rev a1) 04:06.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) 08:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)] (rev a1) glamdring dev # fdisk -l Disk /dev/hdc: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk /dev/hdc doesn't contain a valid partition table Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 17 136521 83 Linux /dev/sda2 18 516 4008217+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda3 517 1513 8008402+ 83 Linux /dev/sda4 1514 9729 65995020 83 Linux Disk /dev/sdb: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table Disk /dev/sdc: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table Disk /dev/sdd: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk /dev/sdd doesn't contain a valid partition table glamdring dev # Where's /dev/sde hiding? Eric

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Comprimised servers?
by Michael Zarozinski Feb. 28, 2007

Feb. 28, 2007

Hi all, It appears as if 2 servers we have were compromised. Does anyone know of someone or a business we can get to examine our servers and tell us what to do? Our hosting company is not the easiest to deal with and I'm having trouble getting anything beyond level 1 support from them. Thank you in advance, Michael

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Ham Radio meeting about GNU Radio...
by Andy Stewart Feb. 25, 2007

Feb. 25, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gang, FYI: I thought some of you might be interested in this meeting regarding GNU Radio. I think I'm going to attend, but admittedly its a lot closer to my house than it probably is to yours. Later, Andy - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [PART/WB1GOF] FW: 2/24 CWA Meeting on Gnu Radio Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:02:48 -0500 From: Steve Telsey <steve.n1bda(a)verizon.net> To: PART <PART-L(a)wb1gof.org> - -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Pettengill [mailto:ghp@space.mit.edu] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 2:27 PM To: CWA Members Subject: 2/24 CWA Meeting Dear CWA Members, As you already know, there will be a meeting of the Colonial Wireless Association next Wednesday evening, 28 February at 7:30pm, in the Concord-Carlisle High School on Thoreau St. The invited speaker is Dr. Gregory D. Troxel, N1DAM, who is a network researcher at BBN Technologies working on software radios for the Department of Defense. Greg will give an overview of software-defined radio, a new technology that is already changing Ham Radio, and will talk about a free software radio package called GNU Radio. Greg will also describe a hardware front-end for software radios, the USRP, that uses daughter-boards for various functions, from transceivers for 440, 902, 1296 and 2400 MHz to boards for IF use. Greg's talk will highlight the challenges in changing GNU Radio from receiving continuous signals to packet radio. Following the talk, Greg will demonstrate GNU Radio and the USRP with several daughter-boards. Unfortunately, I will be unable to join you, but hope for a good attendance. As a result of generous donations over the past month, our treasury now stands at $2194.28. 73, Gordon Pettengill W1OUN - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/696 - Release Date: 2/21/2007 _______________________________________________ Police Amateur Radio Team (PART) of Westford Post messages to: PART-L(a)wb1gof.org (Un)Subscribe at http://PART-L.wb1gof.org - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF4OekHl0iXDssISsRAs5MAJoD+48OSb+BkTaeE1idTvCDUvHvOgCfVvWw wdMkFN4H2sDsAePHOavWgOo= =J4// -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Amarok
by Gary Hanley Feb. 23, 2007

Feb. 23, 2007

I picked up a Cowon iAudio U3 a few weeks ago after and exhaustive search for a player with a good amount of memory (2GB) and plays ogg and flec files. Anyway, I've been burning my CDs to ogg/vorbis as time allows to build a library for myself and recently burned my old copy of Mike Oldfield's _Amarok_. I honestly never made the connection between the name of the album and my new favorite media player, but when I started playing amarok.ogg in the Amarok player this morning this popped up: "One of Mike Oldfield's best pieces of work, Amarok, inspired the name behind the audio-player you are currently using. Thanks for choosing Amarok! Mark Kretschmann Max Howell Chris Muehlhaeuser The many other people who have helped make Amarok what it is" Cool! Just thought I'd share that. :-) -- Gary

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Dell survey
by Mike Leo Feb. 22, 2007

Feb. 22, 2007

http://www.dellideastorm.com/ I found this interesting.

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interesting backups problem
by Eric Stein Feb. 22, 2007

Feb. 22, 2007

Hi all, I've got an interesting issue with disk usage. I have a hard disk image (from dd) stored on a server, and it needs to be compressed it to make room for other data. The image is 160 GB, but I only have 30 GB of free space to work with; the data isn't compressible enough to fit in 30 GB in the meantime. I don't need the image right now and having only a compressed copy is perfectly fine. How can I compress the image while simultaneously deleting the old data? I can think of a way to do it using perl, dd, and some other tools, but I'd much prefer to do it the "right" way if there is one. Eric

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switch distros???
by Bill Mills-Curran Feb. 20, 2007

Feb. 20, 2007

I have an opportunity to get my wife to consider switching from Windows to linux, but I don't think Fedora is the right distro for her. I'm wondering about Linspire/Freespire (Freespire is to Linspire as Fedora is to RedHat?) or Ubuntu. (I've been using Redhat & Fedora since '98.) I've also been frustrated at some of the compatibility problems (like wireless) with Fedora, so I'm considering switching, too. On the other hand, I like being able to get some of the newest apps, like the newest gnucash, on Fedora. Eric Raymond's recent piece on Slashdot was pretty convincing, too. He argued that it is good for the linux open/free community to get linux in as many places as possible, even if it means mixing the distros with commercial drivers, because linux needs more market share in order to succeed against windows, particularly as 64-bit comes on the scene. The "family license" of Linspire seems pretty attractive, too. A big win would be to get my 17 yr old son off windows. He's forever infecting the windows box with junk from his web surfing. My most-used apps: Open office Tetex/latex ps utils gnucash mutt VPN (compatible with my work, which uses Cisco) wine perl firefox USB devices: scanner, drive, camera code development utils multimedia (not so good on Fedora) gpg My wife would like to use Publisher (windows). She might be able to use Scribus (I haven't used it successfully). Her favorites: AOL (I can't break her loose of this) MS office apps Suggestions? Thanks, Bill

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Update
by Bruce Linnell Feb. 19, 2007

Feb. 19, 2007

My wife complained because she couldn't print something from her computer. I checked it out and found the print queue populated with the test pages I had tried to print from the Linux box. So the good news is that the pages are making it to the printer, and the bad news is that they are still not being printed. In fact, I could not cancel the first job. I had to reboot to clear the queue. Which then let my wife print her job. When I again tried to print, the printer made noises like it was going to start, but then just stalled again. Another reboot for me, and an update for the list. Anyone know of a possible fix?

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This 'n that
by Bruce Linnell Feb. 18, 2007

Feb. 18, 2007

I want to thank everyone at Thursday night's meeting for the warm welcome. What a treat it was to be sitting in a group and being able to use words like "distro", "Gnome", and "YaST" without drawing strange looks. The pizza was good, too. :-) I learned alot, but not as much as I thought I had. When I tried to get my printer functional I must have forgotten or misunderstood the advice that was shared with me. (I will be bringing a notebook with me next meeting.) I've got openSuSE 10.2 and access the net through a wireless router. There are 4 boxes on the LAN and the other 3 are WinXP systems. The printer we use is connected to one of those machines. I can ping the printer host box from my Linux system. Printer sharing is turned on at the host, and the XP machines print fine through the LAN. The CUPS job monitor acts as if the print jobs are being sent, right down to the progress bar and the printer icon going from green to yellow and back to green, with no error messages. But of course, there is no page forthcoming from the printer or this email would have been much shorter. It sounded so simple at the meeting...

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linux eye candy / video card recommendation sought
by Andrew Perry Feb. 15, 2007

Feb. 15, 2007

I heard on the Linux Action Show podcast about the Beryl project, which seems to offer linux users both eye candy and improved functionality through a 3D user interface. They say that Beryl will run acceptably with 256 MB and an ATI Radeon 7500, Geforce 3, or equivalent or better video card (seems like these are all a few years old, which is great for my budget.) Since my linux machine has 512 MB RAM but only on-board video, I found a used $20 Radeon 7500 on ebay and will try Beryl out. [Side note: I bought an "afordable performance pc" for linux from madtux.com for about $200, and am generally satisified but for the power supply which sounds like a snowblower. Very minimalist interior. Space for 6 HDD's, for example.] My question: In case the Radeon 7500 isn't up to the task, or for future expansion, are there any particular low-cost video cards that anyone would recommend which are very well supported under linux ? By "very well supported", I mean that it should work "out of the box" with all of the major distros, at least if this is possible. I'm sure that avid gamers would want only the best in video cards, but there are probably a lot of folks like myself who would like a pretty good video card for linux with no hassles. Thanks in advance. -Dr. Andrew B. Perry Dept. of Mathematics, Springfield College Schoo Hall Room 123 263 Alden St., Springfield MA 01109 Work Phone (413)748-3193

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Linux kernel expert needed
by John Spencer Feb. 13, 2007

Feb. 13, 2007

Our client in northern MA is looking for a Linux kernel expert for a 6+ mth project. Must have experience with Linux kernel 2.4, any experience with 2.6 is a plus. Also any experience with security and MIPS is a plus as well. If you are interested in more details, please contact me via the phone # or email below. Regards, John John Spencer (978) 256-1113 ext 7608 jspencer(a)optimaleng.com OPTIMAL ENGINEERING PARTNERS "Your Optimal partner for full-lifecycle engineering services in embedded and real-time, systems and application development" www.optimalengineering.com <http://www.optimalengineering.com/>

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Re: [Wlug] Public net access
by Clint Moyer Feb. 13, 2007

Feb. 13, 2007

There's Victory Cigar Bar at the end of Shrewsbury St. Comfy couches, but no pool tables. Of course, it may not be the ideal environment if you're afraid of lung cancer. ---- Aaron Haviland <orion(a)parsed.net> wrote: ============= I've been living in the Boston area for a few years, but recently moved back to Webster, and I'm searching to fill an addiction I developed in Somerville. I'm curious to know if there are any good cafe's with free wireless in the southern Worcester county area. Bonus points if they have pool tables and comfy couches. The only cafe I know of is Java Hut (I think it's called), but I haven't had a chance to get up there to check it out. Also, as my laptop has a tendancy to not work (I think it's a bad connection in the video component of the mobo), and I'm relatively broke at the moment, are there any places with public terminals available? -- Aaron Haviland _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Public net access
by Aaron Haviland Feb. 13, 2007

Feb. 13, 2007

I've been living in the Boston area for a few years, but recently moved back to Webster, and I'm searching to fill an addiction I developed in Somerville. I'm curious to know if there are any good cafe's with free wireless in the southern Worcester county area. Bonus points if they have pool tables and comfy couches. The only cafe I know of is Java Hut (I think it's called), but I haven't had a chance to get up there to check it out. Also, as my laptop has a tendancy to not work (I think it's a bad connection in the video component of the mobo), and I'm relatively broke at the moment, are there any places with public terminals available? -- Aaron Haviland

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REMINDER: Upcoming Meeting
by Andy Stewart Feb. 13, 2007

Feb. 13, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Sorry for the earlier test...Comcast was bouncing my emails to the list for some reason. That problem seems to have cleared since my test went through. We're scheduled to have a WLUG meeting on Thursday, February 15th, 2007 at 7:00 PM at WPI in the Access Grid Room. We don't have a definite topic, nor do we have anybody who has volunteered to be the speaker. Any takers? After the meeting, we'll head out for pizza at the Tech Pizza restaurant on Highland Street. Come one, come all, see ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF0R5WHl0iXDssISsRAk6PAJ9S5in2mhco530CrcQhvM9PdAFQSACggm2j ejld5TOZECmpNhgr6LC0AaQ= =AqCp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Test...please delete.
by Andy Stewart Feb. 13, 2007

Feb. 13, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF0RcCHl0iXDssISsRAppgAJ4nrZ0JNLs7wKynVpDN2clZJmKT0wCeNMxN R+iL563pO42NONYscmKucCo= =P1t2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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JOB: Avici Systems
by Andy Stewart Feb. 9, 2007

Feb. 9, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Avici Systems is advertising several Linux programming jobs. If interested, send me email and I'll send you the PDF file. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFy6h5Hl0iXDssISsRArGMAJ9FWsOYH+tdTX4kbta6ACUeBexRVwCcDIsY 8BN4XKDgplmSsu+y+WwWG+Q= =UTGv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Test - please ignore
by David Glaser Jan. 26, 2007

Jan. 26, 2007

Test - please ignore

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Topic for future meeting.
by Brian Waite Jan. 16, 2007

Jan. 16, 2007

Hi all, I wanted to intorduce myself. I have been on the LUG list now for over a year, but 2 kids 22 mo and 5 mo old have kept me away from metings. I am by no means a speaker although I have given a presentation at conferences and a LUG. I know there is a constant call for topics. I was wondering if anyone was interested in one of the following 3 topics: 1) Linux Development on the Nokia 770. I have had one for a few months now and know quite a bit about it and the state of affairs. 2) Hacking NAS storage with the Kurobox (www.kurobox.com) An very interesting device with a sordid history 3) VERY tentitive. Developing Robotic applications on Linux for the iRobot Create. I should be able to get my hands on one of these along with some example code and show the capabilities of the iRobot Create (http://www.irobot.com/create) I could also combine 1 and 2 and talk of the general aspects of embedded Linux development. I have been active in this field for about 6 years now. Any takers? Thanks Brian

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FYI: Meeting Announcement
by AlReinhart Jan. 14, 2007

Jan. 14, 2007

FYI: The attached meeting announcement may be of interest to those interested in TV/video and such things as news production, HDTV, film and advanced web-streaming, etc. "A unique opportunity to see some of the most sophisticated editing, effects, animation, compositing and streaming systems on the market." I do not know anything about the group or the meeting, it just sounds like it may be of interest to some WLUG members. ---------------------------------- Al Reinhart Phone: (508) 869-6417 DisCom Systems eMail: Reinhart(a)DisCom.com www.DisCom.com

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