December 2020 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

CentOS Stream
by Chuck Anderson 24 Sep '24

24 Sep '24

Here are two emails from the Fedora Development list about what I was just talking about: 1. CentOS Stream as a rolling release *of a stable RHEL branch*. 2. Idea to write an ansible script to upgrade to the point release of packages that RHEL 8.x ship with. ----- Forwarded message from Adam Williamson <adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org> ----- Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 08:52:09 -0800 From: Adam Williamson <adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org> To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora? Return-Path: devel-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Precedence: list Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 14:07 +0100, Jaroslav Prokop wrote: > > If I understood the announcement, it would be a kind of CentOS streams > is rolling release or a release with short > release interval. That does not make my job much easier as someone who > just sets up services and leaves it running. It's a rolling release *of a stable RHEL branch*. You're not getting radical new changes if you run CentOS Stream; you're just getting the changes you'd usually get in RHEL stable point releases (e.g. 8.1, 8.2 etc) but getting them early and as they are produced, rather than in periodic lumps). For some folks / maintenance styles this might still be an issue, but it should work OK in quite a lot of cases. It's not like you're running Rawhide. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- Forwarded message from Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster(a)gmail.com> ----- Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 17:08:19 +0000 From: Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster(a)gmail.com> To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora? Return-Path: devel-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Precedence: list Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 4:52 PM Adam Williamson <adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > For some folks / maintenance styles this might still be an issue, but > it should work OK in quite a lot of cases. It's not like you're running > Rawhide. For those that want the equivalent of a point release, I would think they should be able to write an ansible script to upgrade to the point release of packages that EL 8.x ship with. A little more work (for someone) to maintain, but I would not be surprised if someone (or a community) decided to take it one. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ----- End forwarded message -----

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WLUG history
by Anderson, Charles R 13 Mar '21

13 Mar '21

Not sure we are the oldest, but we /might/ be the oldest still in operation. Is GNHLUG still in operation? If so, they are probably older. I was inspired to dig into my archives: An early email from our founder, Andy Stewart: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 22:22:18 -0400 From: Andy Stewart <astewart(a)world.std.com> To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mass-pc.wpi.edu> Subject: [Fwd: Caldera Inc. IT Forum] OK, gang, tell the man what you think! Remember, he is the gentleman who graciously donated the tee shirts and CDROM discs from Caldera... Andy ---------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:30:22 -0600 From: Paul La Fluer <paull(a)caldera.com> Organization: Caldera, Inc. To: astewart(a)world.std.com Subject: Caldera Inc. IT Forum Hello Andy, I hope everything is going good. I am in the process of organizing a conference while in New York. My goal is to rent out a large ballroom in a hotel and have all the usergroups in the area come and listen to Bryan Sparks our CEO and other talk about Linux and OpenLinux. There will be presentations plus a Q&A session. I would like to hear your feedback on the idea and if your group would attend. We would be giving away door prizes like OpenLinux Base and Standard and handing out t-shirts, papers and OpenLinux Lite and OpenDOS to all that attend. Please give me some feedback on this idea. I need to know soon to get things set up. Thanks, Paul La Fleur ---------------------------------------------------------------------- An email about our SECOND meeting (that refers to the first meeting): ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 21:29:13 -0400 From: Andy Stewart <astewart(a)world.std.com> To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mass-pc.wpi.edu> Subject: Next WLUG meeting The next scheduled meeting for the Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) is August 21, 1997, at 7 PM in the Gordon Library on the Worcester Polytechnic Institute (WPI) campus in Worcester, MA. We had a great turnout of about 20 people at our very first meeting last month - I hope to see all of you come back, and I'd like to extend a welcome to anybody who would like to attend. I would suggest parking in the "lower library" parking lot and hiking up the 102 stairs to the library (not to mention the 12 or so more stairs in the library to get to the 2nd floor!). For more information, feel free to send me E-mail at: astewart(a)world.std.com Look for the penguin signs! Hope to see you there! Andy Stewart WLUG ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I'd guess our first meeting was about July 23 or 24, 1997, or perhaps the week before, July 16 or 17. But maddog from GNHLUG forwarded this, which says "as always, the meeting are free..." which implies that July 30th is NOT their first meeting. If they had monthly meetings, that would place their first meeting in June 1997 or before. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Jul 97 10:28:09 -0400 From: "Jon 'maddog' Hall, USG Senior Leader" <hall(a)zk3.dec.com> To: gnhlug(a)zk3.dec.com Subject: GNHLUG - Linux Cluster meeting July 30th at Martha's Exchange Hi, We now have a venue for the July 30th meeting of the GNHLUG, with Loki, a cluster of 16 Pentium PRO 200s, running Linux as the topic of the talk. We will be meeting on the *second* floor dining room of the Martha's Exchange Building in beautiful downtown Nashua. I will be picking up the speaker in Cambridge that day and transporting him to Martha's for dinner, arriving about 1730 hours. For those of you who wish to join us for dinner, please RSVP. The meeting itself will start at 1900 hours, with the speaker probably getting up steam about 1915 hours. As always, the meetings are free and open to everyone, and as a FINAL enticement I will be handling out *free* CD ROMS with the V1.2 Debian release for Intel on it. M. Patrick Goda, a principal of the Loki ( http://loki-www.lanl.gov/ ) project at the Theoretical Division of the Los Alamos National Labs, a Beowulf ( http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux-web/beowulf/beowulf.html ) style computer will be our speaker. I have convinced him to present a talk on the Loki project, one of linking together 16 Intel Pentium Pro machines to create a system that has: o high reliability o high throughput and generally 16-node IBM SP2 performance (over 1.2 GigaFlops) at 1/20th the cost (about $60K)!! Pat is a friend of mine that I introduced to Red Hat Linux when he was a graduate student at the University of Hawaii (long story). Due to the fact that Patrick is a rare find, I will invite the Boston Linux User's Group and the Worcester Linux User's group to join us that night, so I have arranged for larger quarters. Some additional Beowulf pages are from my own alma mater: http://einstein.drexel.edu/beowulf/Beowulf_concept.html including exerpts from the original Beowulf story: http://einstein.drexel.edu/beowulf/original_beowulf.html Warmest regards, maddog ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevermind, GNHLUG is definitely older by several years according to their web page: http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/PastEvents 1996 When Where What Who How Many 31 Jan 1996 UNH Durham Linux Linus Torvalds 200+ 1994 When Where What Who How Many 19 Oct UNH (?) First meeting Members ??? On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 04:13:25PM -0500, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote: > What do we know about WLUG's history? If it really is one of the oldest > LUGs, it might merit a Wikipedia article. It would be great if we could > flesh that out, too. > > This article seems like it could use a list of LUGs: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_user_group > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:43 PM Dennis Payne via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > > > The NatickFOSS group uses gettogether.community instead of meetup.com. I > > don't know that it has gotten us any visibility but the software is open > > source. I've been tempted to join meetup to go to Boston Indie Game > > Developer meetings but have so far held off. > > > > The NatickFOSS group also gets a booth at the Science on State Street > > event at Framingham State. It is a free STEM activity fair for kids. My job > > at the event is to generally occupy the time of the kids so the other > > members talk to the parents. First year I had a playstation controller > > hooked up to my laptop and held it out to any kid that walked by. Last year > > I brought the arcade machine assembled by my son's cub scout den. Any idea > > if WPI does any thing similar? Even if it is something only for WPI > > students it might be useful to alert people to the group's existence.

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Happy New Year and more fun is in store for 2021
by Tim Keller 01 Jan '21

01 Jan '21

Hey Everybody! 2020 has been a hell of a thing. Thankfully WLUG continues to endure and I don't see the fun ending anytime soon. I suspect that for the foreseeable future we'll still be virtual, but there will be a day we're all in the same room together.. Stay safe and I hope to see you all soon on a Jitsi call! Later, Tim. WLUG President -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Charter internet - lots of drops for others?
by John Stoffel 28 Dec '20

28 Dec '20

Hi all, Has anyone else with Charter/Spectrum noticed that they're seeing alot more short 2-5 minute outages with Spectrum? Basically it all drops, then a few minutes on my router (OPNsense 20.7.<latest> running on a PCengines.sh APU4d4) I get the exact same IP address renewed via DHCP. It's really really sucky and impacts the kids and myself working from home. Tried all kinds of things, but the damn thing keeps crapping out randomly. I need to get them to look at this, but even with their automated system, and hacving them reset the Cable Modem remotely, it still fails randomly. Cheers, John

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Samba and SELinux
by Chuck Anderson 25 Dec '20

25 Dec '20

If you don't have audit2why, first install it: # yum install policycoreutils-python Then you can run this command and it should tell you why it was denied and propose way to fix it: # cat /var/log/audit/audit.log* | audit2why You can check these SELinux booleans and turn on the one(s) you need, perhaps samba_enable_home_dirs or samba_export_all_ro/rw. # getsebool -a|grep -i smb smbd_anon_write --> off # getsebool -a | grep -i samba samba_create_home_dirs --> off samba_domain_controller --> off samba_enable_home_dirs --> off samba_export_all_ro --> off samba_export_all_rw --> off samba_load_libgfapi --> off samba_portmapper --> off samba_run_unconfined --> off samba_share_fusefs --> off samba_share_nfs --> off sanlock_use_samba --> off tmpreaper_use_samba --> off use_samba_home_dirs --> off virt_use_samba --> off e.g. # setsebool -P samba_enable_home_dirs=on On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 10:19:24PM -0500, Mher Mnatsakanyan via WLUG wrote: > Hi everyone. > > I hope everything is well with all of you and yours. > > I have a question and need help please. > > I installed a Samba server on CentOS8 which works well. > > When I try to mount the share from that Samba server on the client side I > get a permission denied error. When I set SELinux from Enforcing to > Permissive mode it seems to be mounting and the permission denied error > goes away. Any suggestions how I can do the same with SELinux enforcing > mode? > > Thank you very much in advance. > > Respectfully, > Mher Mnatsakanyan

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Gamerzilla at GamingOnLinux
by Dennis Payne 20 Dec '20

20 Dec '20

I wrote an article for GamingOnLinux about the current state of Gamerzilla. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2020/12/open-source-game-achievements-with-ga… -- Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com https://social.freegamedev.net/channel/dulsi

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Lap Top with 28 GB HD
by hammerron 10 Dec '20

10 Dec '20

I recently got a Dell notebook/laptop. It is smaller than a typical lap top (notebook?) and is very light in weight. The hard drive is only 28 GB ! It currently runs Windows 10 and has only 4 GB of free space on the hard drive. It seems to just hang, if I try to update the Windows 10. I am thinking of attempting to install Xubuntu to see if it runs. Tried Puppy Linux (a light weight distro) before and think I'd like to go differently. I got the machine for free so will not be disappointed if this goes nowhere. If anyone has any ideas I'm all ears. (I might try to do this install tonight) Ron

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Generic VGA Driver (or other VGA driver)
by gmcaplan＠gmcaplan.org 10 Dec '20

10 Dec '20

Dear WLUG Members, Below is a question that I posted on Ask Ubuntu 8 days ago. I have received no replies, so I am now asking whether any of you might be able to help. BTW, in addition to the Diamond Stealth card, I also have a PCI Mach64 VGA card made by ATI and a PCI VGA card made by STB Systems. The STB one has a big chip made by S3 and a PROM (I think) labeled "NITRO 3D/GX EDO 1.0". Those have essentially the same problem. ************** I have added to my system a very old Diamond Stealth PCI VGA video card. That card can talk to the BIOS and display correctly on a VGA monitor (provided that I tell the BIOS that my primary graphics card is PCI-E not PCI), but it does not work in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. I think I need a generic VGA driver. Here is some info from lshw: *-display UNCLAIMED description: VGA compatible controller product: 2000PV [Stingray] vendor: ARK Logic Inc physical id: 5 bus info: pci@0000:03:05.0 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: vga_controller configuration: latency=0 resources: memory:fdc00000-fdffffff memory:febf0000-febfffff Also, here is what happens when I try to install fglrx: sudo apt-get install fglrx Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package fglrx I'd appreciate any help or suggestions. Thanks. (P.S. I think I have to set the BIOS to PCI-E because when I sent it to PCI it finds the built-in video port on my AMD CPU.)

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Wlug meeting on Thurs. Dec 10th 2020 @7pm.
by Tim Keller 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

Well, we made it.. The last wlug meeting of 2020! I hope everybody has stayed healthy and safe. The meeting is going to be at our usual virtual hang out.. https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA @7pm. I don't have a topic yet, I suspect something natural will emerge. Later, Tim.

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