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"Keith" == Keith Wright via WLUG writes:

Keith> John Stoffel via WLUG writes:

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Can I tell you to just go and buy a cheap PCIe graphics card made in the last 10 years? *grin*

Keith> Your advice may be good, but I don't like your attitude. One Keith> of the things I like about Linux is that you are not forced to Keith> buy the latest whiz-bang computer. It runs just fine on old Keith> hardware. Getting it working is half the fun. Sure! I agree that getting it working is half the fun. I've been planning on upgrading my main machine since it's 12 years old now (AMD Phenom II X4 945 running at 800-3000Mhz) but I'd have to find some solution to replace my old Cyclades PCI 8 port serial card that I have in the system. PCIe to PCI adaptor? New PCIe 4 port serial card? USB to Serial hanging off the back? But sometimes, if you go dumpster diving for old hardware, then you're going to be forced to stay with old distributions, because people won't support the older stuff past a certain point. I'm talking core developers here. Especially for older graphics cards. It just gets too painful as the state of the art has changed. Heck, I ran a Matrox G200 card for years! Loved that card, ran great. But eventually it wasn't supported and it was so old and slow it wasn't worth it. Keith> See "Dumpster Diving for Linux" Keith> http://www.free-comp-shop.com/none/dumpster.html Great resource! But realize you're going to be running older distributions. And with the move to https and updated SSL requirements, it's going to be harder to use those older systems, unless you can work through a proxy that will encrypt for you. Keith> Tim Keller via WLUG writes:

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The meeting is going to be at our usual virtual hang out.. https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA @7pm.

Keith> I hope to be there.

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I don't have a topic yet, I suspect something natural will emerge.

Keith> I don't have a suitable presentation, but I have written something Keith> about my latest Linux project. Maybe it will be a topic. Keith> See "How can a wireless router be added to a wired netork?" Keith> http://www.free-comp-shop.com/none/wireless.html Keith> Your advice is welcome and maybe useful. A few years ago one Keith> of the WLUG memebers (Frank Sweetser?) saved my bacon after Keith> my Idiot Service Provider suddenly decided it would no longer Keith> be convenient for them to continue running a secondary name Keith> server for me. They didn't even reduce my bill by the amount Keith> they had been charging for that service. The price remained Keith> the same, but now it was for extra email addresses that I had not Keith> requested and did not need. Keith> A few years later they quit providing any mailboxes at all. Keith> I think they would really rather just charge me for sending the Keith> invoice. To be fair, that seems to be hard for them. Keith> Frank (?) told me about Hurricane Electric, who run a secondary Keith> name server for free just for good will and advertising. Keith> They are good people, this plug is all I have ever done for them. Keith> https://dns.he.net/ Keith> -- Keith Keith> _______________________________________________ Keith> WLUG mailing list -- wlug@lists.wlug.org Keith> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org Keith> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ Keith> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ Keith> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/M5DNGH...