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[OT] ethics
by Mark Richards 02 May '07

02 May '07

Hi Matt. Matt Shields wrote: > I haven't checked out CPSR, so I don't know what they are, but you > can't enforce your beliefs on others. This comes down to personal > choice and where you want to work, or maybe working for the government > is the only available choice at the time. Some people have no problem I agree. What I was suggesting is the possibility for one or more people to make a statement as to where they choose to allow the fruit of their work to go, and/or how it is to be used. That's not about enforcing beliefs, but about sharing (and refining) them. The problem I have with open source licensing as it applies to this discussion I raised is that it does not discriminate as to use. I had once posed the possibility of creating a modified license that would prohibit (any) government from using a certain work, but this is both way too complicated and of course begs the question as to exactly what in a project can be legally restricted in this manner. After all, any project (including the one I am working on now) is comprised of a host of others, all bringing in license terms that do not have such a restriction. Attorneys will be needed to figure out if the idea of a more restrictive version of a GPL is even possible. > working for the government. If you want to change how the government > works because you don't like what they're doing, you elect officials > to change policy and petition those officials to change things. You Well, I think that the effectiveness of the system itself is a whole other debate that would go way off topic here. :) I do find the idea of a national referendum on important issues like blowing up other nations a pretty good idea. Has immediacy. But again, swaying way off here. > don't come up with a society that boycotts working for the government > because there's plenty of other people willing to take the job. There are plenty of people. But, as in organizations like Union of Concerned Scientists (the "concerned", I think, puts the intensity of the overall problem mildly), people have come together and made quite a difference. If they hadn't tried then the issues they raise may well have remained in obscurity while scientists of conscience masked their understanding and "concern" with lots of rolaids. /m

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Re: [Wlug] JOBS: Seeking a summer intern in Linux administration
by Clint Moyer 02 May '07

02 May '07

At least that's only the job listing. If you _apply_ for a unix job with a MS Word resume, you get auto-deleted. ---- Jared Greenwald <greenwaldjared(a)gmail.com> wrote: ============= Nothing says Linux like a Word doc... On 5/1/07, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > HI Everybody, > > If you have an interest in this position, please reply directly to the > recruiter: > > Mischke, Ali <Ali.Mischke(a)ironmountain.com> > > Please note: when I forward email such as this, I'll be putting "JOBS:" > or "JOB:" at the beginning of the subject. You may thus filter at will. > > Thanks, > > Andy > > === > > Does WLUG have a student forum? I am the Engineering Internship > Coordinator at Iron Mountain Digital in Southborough, MA, and am trying > to get the word out about a paid internship we have for this summer. We > are looking for a student (junior, senior or graduate student) with > strong Linux skills to help administer an Engineering lab of 125-175 > Linux servers. I have attached the job description and would appreciate > if you could help get the word out to any student members of your > organization. > > Thanks in advance! > > Ali Mischke > Senior Manager, Analysis and Design > Iron Mountain Digital > > 120 Turnpike Road > Southborough, MA 01772 > Phone: (508) 808-7347 > ali.mischke(a)ironmountain.com > > === > > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) > Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) > Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGN7l3Hl0iXDssISsRAiGVAJ9PcqnYps7gc+2SZLc9cfXAz6mhWwCcCW4Y > 7c062GdyqG5Rw5nDEwT009I= > =0Jq9 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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JOBS: Seeking a summer intern in Linux administration
by Andy Stewart 02 May '07

02 May '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, If you have an interest in this position, please reply directly to the recruiter: Mischke, Ali <Ali.Mischke(a)ironmountain.com> Please note: when I forward email such as this, I'll be putting "JOBS:" or "JOB:" at the beginning of the subject. You may thus filter at will. Thanks, Andy === Does WLUG have a student forum? I am the Engineering Internship Coordinator at Iron Mountain Digital in Southborough, MA, and am trying to get the word out about a paid internship we have for this summer. We are looking for a student (junior, senior or graduate student) with strong Linux skills to help administer an Engineering lab of 125-175 Linux servers. I have attached the job description and would appreciate if you could help get the word out to any student members of your organization. Thanks in advance! Ali Mischke Senior Manager, Analysis and Design Iron Mountain Digital 120 Turnpike Road Southborough, MA 01772 Phone: (508) 808-7347 ali.mischke(a)ironmountain.com === - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGN7l3Hl0iXDssISsRAiGVAJ9PcqnYps7gc+2SZLc9cfXAz6mhWwCcCW4Y 7c062GdyqG5Rw5nDEwT009I= =0Jq9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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MySQL Server Hardware
by John Westcott, IV 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Howdy All, I work in a place that has traditionally used Sun Sparc hardware running Solaris to host a production MySQL environment. We are going to be replacing our database servers this year and I am trying to determine if I want to maintain the norm or if I want to try to change. I am interested to see what other people use for hardware/OS for a production MySQL installation that requires a high amount of uptime. Thanks in advance for any replies. -John Westcott

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I'd like to see Windows do this....
by Tal Cohen 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Hi Folks, I recently ran across an interesting situation that I wanted to share this group. A customer of ours called us, letting us know that our server in their data center was beeping. We tried to ssh into the box, but kept getting connection refused. I asked the customer to hook up a monitor and keyboard to the box, and try a simple TTY. Sure enough, he was unable to log in. It turns out that the hard drive that holds the OS (Crux Linux) failed. Now, that in and of itself is not very interesting. What is interesting is that our software kept running even without the OS drive functioning. Our software resides on a separate drive. Since it was already loaded into memory and almost never needs to touch the OS drive, it just kept going.and going..and going.. Tal

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PGP Key Signing Party
by Eric Martin 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This upcoming meeting we are going to have a PGP Key Signing Party. For those of you who don't know what PGP is, allow me to briefly explain. This is all base off of the GPG Key Signing HOWTO (http://www.rubin.ch/pgp/kspa/gpg-party.en.html) which I suggest for further reading. Those who do know can feel free to skip down to the next paragraph. PGP stands for Pretty Good Privacy, and is a Public Key Infrastructure that allows us to communicate securely and deal with data in a secure fashion. There is a public key that one would typically upload to a server and a private key that you hold on to. With the private key you can decrypt / sign, and with the public key you can encrypt / verify emails and documents. Key signatures come into play when you validate that a specific key belongs to a specific person and extend the web of trust. Here's what needs to be done BEFORE the meeting on your computer, or on a secure terminal (e.g. not in a computer lab on your campus). I'll post directions both for GPG (Gnu Privacy Guard) and Kgpg (the KDE front - -end to gpg for all of those who like GUIs). 1. Generate a Key Pair / Verify your key won't expire soon gpg --gen-key (Default values of DSA/Elgamal is fine and the default of 2048 is good.) I recommend 3 - 5 years for a key lifespan (how long the key will be good for) 1a) for those of you wishing to use Kgpg, goto Keys -> Generate Key Pair and fill in the dialog box Once you create the New key pair, check the Save As box under _Revocation Certificate_ to save a Revocation Certificate (see 2) 1c) For those of you who already have a key, make sure yours isn't about to expire (like mine did). If it has expired, you can extend the life by $ gpg --edit-key <key-id> and typing expire at the command prompt next, generate a new key-pair and sign your new key with your old key so anyone who trusted your old one will trust the new one. 2) Generate a revocation certificate Revocation certificates are for situations where you forget your passphrase, the key becomes comprised, etc you can revoke your key. $ gpg --output revoke.asc --gen-revoke <key-id> Save this in multiple places, print a copy etc in case you need it. 2GUI) If you didn't create a revocation cert in Kgpg, just right click on your new key and select Revoke Key. when the box pops up only check Save As 3) Upload your key to the Designated server for this party (pgp.mit.edu) $ gpg --send-key --keyserver=pgp.mit.edu <key-id> 3GUI) Right Click on the Key, select Export Public Keys, select Default Key Server (make sure it's pgp.mit.edu under Settings) 4) Email me your key's fingerprint so I can add it to the list $ gpg --fingerprint <key-id> Copy and Paste that into an email to the coordinator (me, Eric Martin). 5) print out a copy of that same output and bring it to the meeting. I'll make up a check list and bring them to the meeting for everyone to use. Example output from Step 4: pub 1024D/A9413B9F 2007-04-09 [expires: 2010-04-08] Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F uid Eric J. Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> uid Eric J. Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> sub 2048g/01F81B8E 2007-04-09 [expires: 2010-04-08] my <key-id> is A9413B9F (which is always the same as my last 8 hex digits of my fingerprint). If like me you don't always remember your key-id you can use your email address and it will still work. My full key information is: Key ID: A9413B9F Key Type: DSA Hex Fingerprint: D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F Key Size: 1024 (The DSA key is always 1024 bits. The ElGamal Encryption key is 2048 bits in my case, but isn't needed for the keysigning party.) What you should bring to this party 1. Yourself, no exceptions 2. Two forms of positive photo ID - driver's license and passport are good 3. Key Id, Key Type, Hex Fingerprint and Key size info ***Please print out your own copy of your info to compare against mine when you arrive *** 4. Pen / Pencil What you Should Not Bring 1. Computer I want to thank Chuck Anderson for helping me out. If you have any questions please let me know. Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGMBvKaiVxdKlBO58RAsCVAJ9cA488l+SybdxD+rgqNWGi/U9tUQCeMvH8 UAhMTFVRG5SbVVn5jqbVwqg= =BSzn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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MySQL Server Hardware
by joel d 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

I'll take a stab at this one. At work our MySQL database contains product info and indexing data. The reasoning for designing and taking this outside of the business application is the business app. doesn't do web communication well (limited functionality and at times spotty app reliability). The business app doesn't matter (and I bet no one has heard of it anyway). Our design spec was hearty at a HP DL 385 with dual AMD CPUs (dual core I think) 5GB of RAM and around 7 internal 15k drives in RAID 5. Every bit of hardware is HP/Compaq. Without starting a distro thread we picked Red Hat AS V4. This combo has served us well and I am sure *many* other distros would do this at least as well. For us our biggest corporate reason for R.H. was most of our application vendors suported R.H in one way or another (a vote for getting good at only one skillset/distro). During application & DB development we considered uptime and ordered a second identical box mainly for a total server failure of any sort. They run very well as MySQL master and slave. In the year it has been up we are very happy with this combination. Feel free to forward any specific questions (direct or via the group). Hope this helps, Joel ============================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:59:55 -0400 From: "John Westcott, IV" <John.Westcott(a)tufts.edu> Subject: [Wlug] MySQL Server Hardware To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Message-ID: <20070424145955.3hftuclhdwg0ck4s(a)webmail.tufts.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Howdy All, I work in a place that has traditionally used Sun Sparc hardware running Solaris to host a production MySQL environment. We are going to be replacing our database servers this year and I am trying to determine if I want to maintain the norm or if I want to try to change. I am interested to see what other people use for hardware/OS for a production MySQL installation that requires a high amount of uptime. Thanks in advance for any replies. -John Westcott

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2 things
by Mike Leo 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

We talked about this at one point: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070422-child-porn-case-shows-that-an… also.....wlug.org is down?

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Hauppauge 500 woes
by Mike 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

I've been working on setting up a MythTV box with a Hauppauge 500. The reception I am getting is a bit grainy. I read that it could be the firmware, too high of a signal, or too low of a signal. I took care of the firmware last night by following the directions on their wiki. The picture is still a bit grainy. Before I go out an buy a signal booster I was wondering if anyone had any ideas or experience with the 500. ~Mike -- They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security --Ben Franklin

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New ULTRA1 - one step forward, two steps backward....
by ken jones 20 Apr '07

20 Apr '07

Folks, When the box failed to boot, you might remember, it complained that the kernel was "too old". I remade the box using the newer kernel 2.6.20. I apparently configured the correct silo.conf (there are five of them in there when using the livecd). It looked like it was going to BOOT!! :-) See below..... Trouble is this is as far as it got. I printed and used as reference the Gentoo Linux 2006.1 SPARC Handbook, the Using UTF08 with Gentoo document and the Gentoo Upgrading Guide. Nevertheless I had a very difficult time with manual configuration of the kernel. I had not the faintest idea which modules I could ignore and which I needed to modularize Question: is there a log somewhere? I did emerge syslog-ng. Another question: Where is the detailed documentation on all the modules? Final question: How do I get a hint at what I did wrong? Ken ----------------snip of hyperterminal watching SUN ULTRA boot.------------ Sun Ultra 1 UPA/SBus (UltraSPARC 200MHz), No Keyboard OpenBoot 3.11, 192 MB memory installed, Serial #9633364. Ethernet address 8:0:20:92:fe:54, Host ID: 8092fe54. Initializing Memory \ Initializing Memory \ Initializing Memory \ Initializing Memory - Initializing Memory - Boot device: disk File and args: SILO Version 1.4.13 boot: Allocated 8 Megs of memory at 0x40000000 for kernel Loaded kernel version 2.6.20 Remapping the kernel... done. Booting Linux... -----------------------------------end snip-----------------------------

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3D support
by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

I started looking for a new laptop. I'd like one that can play Neverwinter Nights with open source drivers. Obviously that is a problem since 3D support without the binary drivers is not great. I figured since the game is rather old a good cpu (or two for the duo) and a well supported open source driver (I remember hearing Intel having released an open source driver) that it could run reasonably. I asked some linux laptop vendors and everyone told me that I would need the binary drivers. Are they right and we still can't run a 5 year old game? Am I stuck waiting for nouveau? Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

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JOBS - Several Linux roles Embedded and Kernel projects
by John Spencer 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

We have 2 clients in MA and one in NH that are looking for Linux experts for various consulting projects. Our Client in MA (6+ mths.) is a leading provider of comprehensive compliance and content control solutions. They offer comprehensive network and desktop solutions that provide comprehensive visibility and control of inappropriate activity and information leakage across all channels of communications. Linux systems, real time processing, networking, C++/C Developer (Principal Level) to work on a Second generation of product from scratch. Will leverage existing pieces from their current product but begin with a new scalable and modular architecture. Heavy LINUX systems exp. with Windows OR Heavy WINDOWS with Linux systems. Strong C++/C, Real-time processing. Agile Development- " High Quality/ Fast Paced". Using Eclipse and Subversion. Low-level programming with File Systems, etc. NO Java needed. They are using RedHat Linux 2.6 kernel. MUST HAVE: Have been part of a team that has shipped a product and/or built a product that was shipped. Experience getting a product through its life-cycle and gotten it to market. STRONG Communication Skills, Highly Collaborative, Results driven, No hand-holding, Strong Development. ************************************************************************ ** Consultant needed as part of a small team (in MA 6 mths temp to perm possible) to produce high quality functional specifications, design specifications, product code, unit tests, and build scripts as needed. You must also be able to rapidly and effectively troubleshoot, diagnose, and resolve defects in an existing code base. You must be comfortable selecting and maintaining an appropriate focus in your daily work that will range from broad and abstract system architecture issues to detailed and concrete implementation issues. Responsibilities: - Provide software support and integration for new hardware features as they get added to the platform - Provide Linux support to upgrade Linux distribution as well as associated build environment - Work on low level features such as Software Upgrade - Instrument code and help analyze resource utilization - Maintain code repository - Address operational issues - Work with team on code releases Requirements - BS or MS in Computer Science, or equivalent experience - Either Real-Time OS or DSP experience - Experience in Linux, C, C++, Perl - Innovation and attention to detail - Ability to work independently but to know to get direction when you need it - Ability to work well with others on a small focused team - Excellent written and oral skills - Ability to obtain security clearance ************************************************************************ ********************************************** Principal Software Engineer (6+ mths in southern NH) Our client is looking for a Sr. C++ developer to replace current functionality on their embedded cards with edge nodes Linux based servers. They are currently running 1500 streams/card and want to run 2500 streams/edge node. Must have experience at the Linux kernel, driver and file systems level. This is mostly new development with some porting of the existing functionality from the embedded card. Must have either SMP or experience writing code in a multiprocessor environment. If you are interested and qualified, please send your confidential resume to jspencer(a)optimaleng.com Regards, John John Spencer (978) 256-1113 ext 7608 jspencer(a)optimaleng.com OPTIMAL ENGINEERING PARTNERS "Your Optimal partner for full-lifecycle engineering services in embedded and real-time, systems and application development" www.optimalengineering.com <http://www.optimalengineering.com/>

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I am getting discouraged with Gentoo on ULTRA1
by ken jones 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

For those of you who are kind enough to care....sigh. On my Ultra1 I succeeded in following the directions in <http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-sparc.xml> to the letter, or so I thought. I "emerge'd" successfully. I compiled successfully. I chroot'd successfully. I removed the CD from its drive. I boot'd and I got the following. yadda yadda yadda.... VFs: Mounted root(ext3 filesystem) readonly Mounted devfs on /dev FATAL: kernel too old Unimplemented SPARC system call 188 Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! Press Li-A to return to the boot prom I compiled kernel-2.4.34. I chose 2.4 over 2.6 because the handbook hinted I should.. Now I do not even know what questions to ask myself. I checked Google on the "kernel too old" message and the "Attempted to kill" message. I could not understand the few matches that it found. My bet is that I need bigger SCSI hard drives. I'll also be glad to shut up if this is getting boring. Ken

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New ULTRA1 success - almost
by ken jones 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

I have succeeded in compiling Gentoo Linux-2.4.34-sparc kernel on my new ULTRA1. This machine-toy has kept me off the streets and out of trouble for the last couple days. (The weather has been cooperative toward the same end.) I have a question. The Gentoo instructions <http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-sparc.xml?part=1&chap=7#comp…> tell me that if my kernel is too big that it might not boot. "If the (uncompressed) size is bigger than 2.5 MB (for Sparc32) or 3.5 MB (for Sparc64), reconfigure your kernel until it doesn't exceed these limits. One way of accomplishing this is by having most kernel drivers compiled as modules. Ignoring this can lead to a non-booting kernel." My kernel after a strip command is still 3.7M. -----------snip from command line after a strip command----------- (chroot) livecd linux # strip -R .comment -R .note vmlinux (chroot) livecd linux # ls -lh vmlinux -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3.7M Apr 13 06:03 vmlinux --------------end snip---------------- Should I take this warning seriously? How do I figure out which drivers to deselect from menuconfig? lspci gives me no response. I am not sure what is in my machine. Ken Jones

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Funny Coincidence
by Eric Martin 14 Apr '07

14 Apr '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 For those of you who like funny coincidences, I just want to point out that last year we had this exact same conversation about recycling comptuers (I sent an email on April 9th, 2006). http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/2006-April/005287.html Must be the whole 'Spring Cleaning' thing. Just thought some of you would find it interesting. Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFGIDxVaiVxdKlBO58RAn7lAJ9lNH/LeLtQM26PkEGCImuvgDr3QgCYpBNo ypatPpWtwOEQK+D48pDWFA== =lxe8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics
by Dick Goodman 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

>Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV >and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga >computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. If you're a Worcester city resident, you can drop off at the Millbury St (used to be Ballard St) recycling center for $5 a pop (computers and monitors) ...only time I had a problem was doing a major cleanout, about 10 of each, convincing them I was not a business Call for an appointment time. www.ci.worcester.ma.us look under Public Works & Parks, Residential Drop-Off Center Dick

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Re: [Wlug] New to the group
by Mike Leo 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

i also live in leominster and work in Cambridge...small world i guess. I haven't been to a meeting in a while, but if i go and you need a ride, let me know. ----- Original Message ---- From: Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> To: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:53:06 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] New to the group Hi Andy, and hello to everyone in WLUG! I will definitely try to make May's meeting. I have been working on various X-nix based systems since 1999 (Solaris, HPUX, AIX, Red-Hat, and now CRUX). I do a lot in Perl, MySQL, Nagios, BASH, and Apache. Interests...varies depending on what I am doing at any given time. I would like to learn more about IPC programming and multi-process threading in X-nix. I like getting my hands dirty working with hardware. I would not mind learning more about building custom hardware that interfaces with a system...perhaps robotics or telecom (don't get the wrong idea, I have little knowledge in this area right now). Tal PS Oh, and I live in Leominster...but work in Boston -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:44 AM To: wlug(a)cohen123.com Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] New to the group -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tal Cohen wrote: > Hi, > I am new to this group. I want to find out when the meetings are, and > when. > > Thanks, > Tal HI Tal, Welcome to WLUG! I just got home from this evening's meeting. I got the sense that it went well. I'm stuffed with pizza and soda. Hopefully you'll be able to come to a few meetings and meet folks. We meet once per month at WPI in Worcester, MA USA. Let us know if you have other questions about the group, and we'll be sure to answer them. Also, I'm sure people are curious about your interest and experience with Linux, so please, do tell. See ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGHbkHHl0iXDssISsRAsyPAJwJK0ld/6c/I/2bhsO/aY14PUpz1QCePqNx FSyZOMpNzsBRJGHQc6bUTNQ= =BRds -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] New to the group
by Terry S 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Hi Tal, Welcome to WLUG! I'm new too, joined a couple weeks ago and this is my first meeting also. Sincerely, Terry S.

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Re: [Wlug] New to the group
by Mike Leo 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

http://wlug.org/meetings.html and welcome to the pack.....are groups of penguins called packs? ----- Original Message ---- From: Tal Cohen <wlug(a)cohen123.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:59:11 AM Subject: [Wlug] New to the group Hi, I am new to this group. I want to find out when the meetings are, and when. Thanks, Tal _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics
by freak4uxxx＠gmail.com 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

the city has just hooked up with somebody and its free up to a certain day. Give customer service a call at 508 929 1300 and they can fill you in. -Eric -----Original Message----- From: Dick Goodman <wlug(a)goodman1.net> Subj: Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics Date: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:39 pm Size: 712 bytes To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV >and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga >computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. If you're a Worcester city resident, you can drop off at the Millbury St (used to be Ballard St) recycling center for $5 a pop (computers and monitors) ...only time I had a problem was doing a major cleanout, about 10 of each, convincing them I was not a business Call for an appointment time. www.ci.worcester.ma.us look under Public Works & Parks, Residential Drop-Off Center Dick _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics
by Mike Leo 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

East Coast Electronics Recycling Inc. 59 Williams St., Leominster MA 01453, United States Private Company, Headquarters Location (978) 537-9940 I went there with 2 car loads of PC parts and printers and maybe a tv. 3 guys unloaded my car onto a scale....i paid 10cents per pound. Conveniently located near the junction of 190 & rt2, behind the mall. Hope this helps ----- Original Message ---- From: Adam Keck <ghostis(a)gmail.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:36:39 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics Hello Mike, I have an old TV taking up space as well. Can you provide more details? Thanks! -Adam On 4/10/07, Mike Leo < mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: there is a place in leominster that will take it at 10c/lb.....meaning you pay them 10c for every pound of whatever you want to get rid of. They are behind the "Sears town mall" now re-named "The Mall at Whitney Field". I can give more details if interested. ----- Original Message ---- From: "dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com" < dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:54:13 PM Subject: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- -Adam _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics
by Mike Leo 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

there is a place in leominster that will take it at 10c/lb.....meaning you pay them 10c for every pound of whatever you want to get rid of. They are behind the "Sears town mall" now re-named "The Mall at Whitney Field". I can give more details if interested. ----- Original Message ---- From: "dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com" <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:54:13 PM Subject: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Recycling Electronics
by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

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Re: [Wlug] Recycling Electronics
by Jamie Guinan 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com wrote: > Anyone know where I can recycle old electronics? I've got a dead TV > and amiga monitor. I should probably get rid of the old amiga > computer as well and perhaps other spare/broken parts. http://www.mass.gov/dep/recycle/reduce/crtrsbz.htm http://www.wastecap.org/wastecap/rsd2003/ I paid $30 to get rid of a dead 27in Sony at E.L. Harvey in Westborough. I would have looked around for a better deal (my town takes them for $10, between 9am-noon *one* day a year), but I had to make room in my garage. -Jamie

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ULTRA1 Gentoo Install presents a problem
by ken jones 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

Mike wrote: "I fear you have just only gotten through the easy part!!" Mike's words rang true this morning. While doing "tar xvjf /mnt/gentoo/portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr" the machine stopped dead. This has happened twice. I fear that I do not have enough hard disk space, but I would hope for a gentler error message. Here is Gentoo Install's last gasp while extracting the Portage snap shot. I was connected to the Gentoo box via ssh. ------------snip from tar output--------- portage/eclass/tla.eclass portage/eclass/perl-app.eclass portage/eclass/gtk-engines.eclass portage/eclass/perl-post.eclass portage/eclass/rpm.eclass portage/eclass/rox.eclass portage/eclass/xfree.eclass Read from remote host 192.168.1.110: No route to host Connection to 192.168.1.110 closed. [1]+ Done emacs /root/.ssh/known_hosts [root@kjones-fedora .ssh]# --------end snip---------- At this point all terminals on the machine do not respond. Is there a way that I can get back to this stage? If I power cycle I get back to the livecd prompt and all my INSTALL work is lost - I think. If [stop a] works I still must boot cdrom to get started again. Any ideas? Here is the hard disk/partition setup. They are not very big :'( -----------snip from fdisk results---------- livecd gentoo # fdisk /dev/sda Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sda (Sun disk label): 16 heads, 135 sectors, 3880 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2160 * 512 bytes Device Flag Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 0 463 500040 83 Linux native /dev/sda2 u 463 694 249480 82 Linux swap /dev/sda3 0 3880 4190400 5 Whole disk /dev/sda4 694 3880 3440880 83 Linux native Command (m for help): q livecd gentoo # fdisk /dev/sdb Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sdb (Sun disk label): 19 heads, 80 sectors, 2733 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1520 * 512 bytes Device Flag Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 0 658 500080 83 Linux native /dev/sdb2 u 658 2733 1577000 83 Linux native /dev/sdb3 0 2733 2077080 5 Whole disk Ken Jones

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