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Setting up a Wiki
by Steven Greenberg Dec. 13, 2012

Dec. 13, 2012

Some mention was made of setting up a Wiki web site. I have set up and contributed to Wikis in several companies where I worked. Those are internal web sites, so I cannot show examples. The software I used was Twiki. http://twiki.org/ /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

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Re: [Wlug] Need some help with digital signal processing ...
by dglaser＠glaserresearch.net Dec. 13, 2012

Dec. 13, 2012

Jeff, I will look at reddit forums. However, I am hoping for someone local for beer and pizza based information interchange. Face to face bandwidth is really fast. -David =================== From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> Date: Wed Dec 12 08:33:35 CST 2012 To: David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net>, Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Need some help with digital signal processing ... David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> writes: > Hi Folks, > > I need some help with an Android app for the hearing impaired. > Essentially, the app is to be used with a wearable android device > (Google Glasses or theSony android wrist watch) and will listen for > sounds such as the door bell or the tty, or any other household > soundthat should be reported to the wearer. > > Capturing the sound using an Android device is not the problem. What I > don't know is how to compare the incoming sound stream with sound > signatures that should cause the event to occur. Once the event > occurs, then text can be displayed on the googleglasses or the haptic > transducer on the wrist watch can be activated. > > This app is intended to be open sourceso I'm looking for volunteer > help on the algorithms. I will do the programming. We've got some smart folks on this list, no doubt, but it might serve you better to ask this question in a more focused forum. Try http://www.reddit.com/r/DSP/ for starters. Good luck! Jeff

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Examples of Websites Using Different Techniques
by Steven Greenberg Dec. 13, 2012

Dec. 13, 2012

I have examples of three different techniques that I have used for creating web sites. My personal web site is mostly hand coded HTML and CSS, with some custom Javascript and PHP. The drop down menus are pure HTML and CSS. http://www.ssgreenberg.name/ The politics link on my website takes you to my politics blog that uses Wordpress. http://ssgreenberg.name/PoliticsBlog/ I have my experimental website using Drupal 6. http://www.ssgreenberg.name/Drupal/Drupal/ the last example is the Friends of The Joshua Hyde Public Library on which I have used Drupal 7 http://www.sturbridgelibraryfriends.org/ I did a much more complex web site in Drupal 6 for a Square dance club, but that site is no longer available. I'll be happy to discuss the pros and cons of each technique. /Steve P.S. I have some Javascript which I use often for doing Outlines on web sites in HTML. http://www.ssgreenberg.name/SSGSoftware/OutlinesInHTML/ I also have some Javascript which I use to display all my photo albums on the web. One example is: http://www.ssgreenberg.name/Pictures/2011/10-28-Snow/index.php The software at the bottom of these pages that keep track of and displays the info about how many reads and readers there are for each page was also written by me and uses a MySQL database to keep the data that drives the display of information. -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5
by joel d Dec. 13, 2012

Dec. 13, 2012

Came late. Did I miss it? Tech pizza? Other location? Thank you, Joel On Dec 12, 2012 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Need some help with digital signal processing ... (David Glaser) > 2. Announce: Meeting December 12th 7PM, WPI Campus Center > Mid-Century Room 331 (Chuck Anderson) > 3. Re: Need some help with digital signal processing ... (Jeff Moyer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:33:22 -0500 > From: David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Need some help with digital signal processing ... > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <50C86B82.5030301(a)glaserresearch.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Folks, > > I need some help with an Android app for the hearing impaired. > Essentially, the app is to be used with a wearable android device > (Google Glasses or theSony android wrist watch) and will listen for > sounds such as the door bell or the tty, or any other household > soundthat should be reported to the wearer. > > Capturing the sound using an Android device is not the problem. What I > don't know is how to compare the incoming sound stream with sound > signatures that should cause the event to occur. Once the event occurs, > then text can be displayed on the googleglasses or the haptic transducer > on the wrist watch can be activated. > > This app is intended to be open sourceso I'm looking for volunteer help > on the algorithms. I will do the programming. > > Regards > > David Glaser > dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20121212/8dede17f/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:47:11 -0500 > From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: [Wlug] Announce: Meeting December 12th 7PM, WPI Campus Center > Mid-Century Room 331 > To: wlug(a)wlug.org > Message-ID: <20121212124710.GZ29170(a)angus.ind.WPI.EDU> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > We are having a WLUG meeting this evening, December 12, at 7:00 PM in > the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Century Room 331. > > http://www.wpi.edu/Admin/CC/Floorplans/37678.htm > > This seems like a good time to talk about the WLUG website. We've had > half-completed plans since about 2 years ago to replace the hardware > and software to create a Wiki or Drupal site to replace the outdated > and manually-maintained-by-me HTML site. This week I plan to finally > migrate things over to the new server, but the content will still be > the old HTML site for now. We need some volunteers to help build a > new site in either MediaWiki or Drupal or some other framework. > > After the meeting, we'll continue discussions over at Tech Pizza. > > Hope to see you there, > Chuck > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 190 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20121212/d872da62/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:33:35 -0500 > From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Need some help with digital signal processing ... > To: David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net>, Worcester Linux Users > Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <x49zk1jl4qo.fsf(a)segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> writes: > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I need some help with an Android app for the hearing impaired. > > Essentially, the app is to be used with a wearable android device > > (Google Glasses or theSony android wrist watch) and will listen for > > sounds such as the door bell or the tty, or any other household > > soundthat should be reported to the wearer. > > > > Capturing the sound using an Android device is not the problem. What I > > don't know is how to compare the incoming sound stream with sound > > signatures that should cause the event to occur. Once the event > > occurs, then text can be displayed on the googleglasses or the haptic > > transducer on the wrist watch can be activated. > > > > This app is intended to be open sourceso I'm looking for volunteer > > help on the algorithms. I will do the programming. > > We've got some smart folks on this list, no doubt, but it might serve > you better to ask this question in a more focused forum. Try > http://www.reddit.com/r/DSP/ for starters. > > Good luck! > Jeff > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 > ************************************ >

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Need some help with digital signal processing ...
by David Glaser Dec. 12, 2012

Dec. 12, 2012

Hi Folks, I need some help with an Android app for the hearing impaired. Essentially, the app is to be used with a wearable android device (Google Glasses or theSony android wrist watch) and will listen for sounds such as the door bell or the tty, or any other household soundthat should be reported to the wearer. Capturing the sound using an Android device is not the problem. What I don't know is how to compare the incoming sound stream with sound signatures that should cause the event to occur. Once the event occurs, then text can be displayed on the googleglasses or the haptic transducer on the wrist watch can be activated. This app is intended to be open sourceso I'm looking for volunteer help on the algorithms. I will do the programming. Regards David Glaser dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net

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Announce: Meeting December 12th 7PM, WPI Campus Center Mid-Century Room 331
by Chuck Anderson Dec. 12, 2012

Dec. 12, 2012

We are having a WLUG meeting this evening, December 12, at 7:00 PM in the WPI Campus Center, Mid-Century Room 331. http://www.wpi.edu/Admin/CC/Floorplans/37678.htm This seems like a good time to talk about the WLUG website. We've had half-completed plans since about 2 years ago to replace the hardware and software to create a Wiki or Drupal site to replace the outdated and manually-maintained-by-me HTML site. This week I plan to finally migrate things over to the new server, but the content will still be the old HTML site for now. We need some volunteers to help build a new site in either MediaWiki or Drupal or some other framework. After the meeting, we'll continue discussions over at Tech Pizza. Hope to see you there, Chuck

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Meeting Wednesday pm?
by joel d Dec. 11, 2012

Dec. 11, 2012

Hi WLUG... Is there a meeting on Wednesday.? Thank you, Joel

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Ebook Creation
by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com Dec. 5, 2012

Dec. 5, 2012

Has anyone made an ebook under linux? Specifically I'm taking about epub and mobi formats for supporting ereaders. I stupidly decided to do NaNoWriMo (National Novel Writing Month - 50,000 words in 30 days) and succeeded. I still have to clean up the novel but assuming I finish that I'd like to convert it to ebook format.

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OPENINGS - Sr Software Engineer - Linux kernel, drivers
by John Spencer Dec. 3, 2012

Dec. 3, 2012

Sr. Software Engineer (embedded Linux) Our client north of Boston has an opportunity for a Senior Software Engineer with at least 10 years of experience. The successful engineer needs to have an aptitude for real time systems and experience with capital equipment/devices. Strong background with embedded Linux kernel and driver development is required. The engineer will need a high comfort level developing low level Linux code as well as modifying existing low level Linux code. This is a contract to perm opportunity. Work must be done on-site. Client will not sponsor visas. Please send a Word version of your resume to jspencer@connectedsp. com As always your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com <www.connectedsp.com%20%20%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

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LCD - to fix or not to fix?
by joel d Nov. 23, 2012

Nov. 23, 2012

Hi WLUG, My conundrum is whether to work on soldering most likely capacitors into an old 18 inch LCD later this week in a haze of starch and tryptophan. Is it worth it to re-hab it for use as a basement/workshop PC? Happy Thanksgiving, Joel

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November 14th?
by The Hammer Nov. 18, 2012

Nov. 18, 2012

Hello, I see of the website that our next meeting should be tomorrow (the 14th), but the location is to be announced. Wondering, do we have the location yet? Ron

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Announce: Meeting November 14th 7PM, WPI Higgins Labs 230
by Chuck Anderson Nov. 14, 2012

Nov. 14, 2012

Sorry I'm going to be missing the meeting this month, and thanks to Henrique for taking care of the room. -Chuck On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 03:14:34PM -0500, Henrique wrote: > Hey! > > I just talked to Chuck, and he is a bit busy. I got WLUG the same room as > last time Higgins Labs, Room 230, > (HL230<https://maps.google.com/maps?q=42.274129,-71.808384&num=1&vpsrc=0&ie=UTF8&l…>), > if you have any problem locating or getting into the building, just send me > a message at (631) 316-8142. I also already got a better room for next > month. > > Do we have a topic? > > Cheers, > Henrique "nican" Polido.

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help diagnosing PC issue: suspect power supply
by Brett Russ Nov. 7, 2012

Nov. 7, 2012

Hi, I'm trying to diagnose a home built PC running fine since 2007 but lately starting to act odd. Here are the system specs: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8GHz cpu Asus P5B Deluxe mobo Nvidia 7900GS graphics card Kingston KHX6400 2x1GB DDR2 memory Sparkle ATX 400W power supply 3x 1TB SATA HDDs 1x SATA DVD-RW $ uname -a Linux spider 3.0.0-25-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 13 17:58:59 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ cat /etc/*release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10 DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10" $ uname -a Linux spider 3.0.0-25-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 13 17:58:59 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux What recently changed: i) replaced monitor, last one died ii) (carefully) vacuumed the dust from inside. Kept hand on case chassis, didn't touch any PCB/chips, etc. Here are the symptoms: 1) first started seeing BIOS claims of bad CMOS checksum at boot time. Immediately suspected the CMOS battery, replaced it and reset CMOS settings but I continue to see this. This is the one symptom that I can't yet place, unless it's simply a bad replacement battery. 2) next started seeing the monitor fail to wake up after entering power save 3) powering on the PC shows issues: 3a) often the monitor won't wake at boot 3b) the bios often doesn't finish POST, gets stuck at splash screen 3c) bios settings often don't survive across power cycles (possibly related to #1--battery issue?) 3d) bios doesn't always give the affirmative beep (likely same symptom as 3a, 3b) 3e) a cold power on or reset can take several "tries" before the system stays on. I.e. fans will spin up, then spin down, one to three times before staying on. When this happens it's pretty much guaranteed that it won't boot successfully. 4) system will freeze to user input while up. I.e. once I get Linux booted, as long as I disable monitor power save it will stay running for a while, but I observed it stopped responding to KB and mouse input earlier this morning. Here's what I've tried: a) reseated both DIMMs, reproduced issues; tried with just one DIMM, repro'd; tried other DIMM, repro'd b) reseated graphics card, repro'd; removed graphics card (now headless), repro'd problem 3e c) reseated CMOS battery (CR2032), repro'd d) pulled all non-essential cables and internal connections, including power and SATA cables from all drives, repro'd e) updated BIOS to latest version, repro'd Unfortunately I don't have another ATX power supply to try, but was thinking of buying one. I might also try an old PCI video card, but I suspect due to repro (b) above that it's not the cause. Anyone have any other insights or agree it sounds like a bad PS? I still can't explain symptom (1), will probably buy another battery to be sure. Five years seems like an old PC, but I'm not a gamer so this suits me fine. Thanks, Brett

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Next meeting on the 14th?
by Tim Keller Nov. 1, 2012

Nov. 1, 2012

Hey Gang, Firstly, I presume that the next meeting is going to be on the 14th? Secondly, do we have a topic? Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Free hardware: Internal IDE CD drives
by joel d Oct. 26, 2012

Oct. 26, 2012

Could anyone use some internal CD drives? Just found a box full of them. They are "bare" IDE CD readers with no cables, drivers or manuals. Will gladly bring as many as people want to the next meeting. Don't be shy, I probably have 30 of them, and all are guaranteed to be worth every penny of free! Please kindly reply to me via e-mail directly if interested (to not clog up the WLUG e-mail). Thank you, Joel joelgroup(a)gmail.com

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Monitoring for a network
by Eric Martin Oct. 24, 2012

Oct. 24, 2012

I'm trying to get a better handle on what's happening on my network at work. I'm currently using Nagios to monitor the big things (Server health, switch health, etc), but I'd like more granular statistics (how much data is coming and going, are any links saturated, etc). A quick glance shows that MRTG, Cricket, and RRD are good things to start playing with. I'm staring to play around with MRTG, but I'm hearing rumors of scalability issues and I don't want to get deep into MRTG if I should be putting resources elsewhere. A quick sketch of the network is a few internet connections, our router, and a few switches for networking along with a few switches for VoIP as well as our PBX. I don't want to monitor every port all the time, I instead want to monitor the uplinks of the switches to have a good idea, and look at the switch if something looks awry. My question to the group is, what do you use / recommend, and do you have anything that sticks out in your head about any of these packages (good or bad)? Thanks in advance, -- Eric Martin

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I presume we're meeting the 10th of Oct?
by Tim Keller Oct. 10, 2012

Oct. 10, 2012

Hey Gang! I presume we're having a meeting on the 10th? Does anybody have a topic/idea? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Possible problem with demo tomorrow...
by Tim Keller Oct. 9, 2012

Oct. 9, 2012

There's that old adage, when it rains it pours... Work critical stuff has made it hard for me to focus on getting the demo to work completely. I can do two things... 1. I can do my presentation without the demo. 2. I can do my presentation next month, giving me time to get the demo working right, etc. What do you guys want me to do? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] help diagnosing PC issue: suspect power supply
by joel d Oct. 9, 2012

Oct. 9, 2012

> From: Brett Russ <bruss(a)alum.wpi.edu> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] help diagnosing PC issue: suspect power supply > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <CAGcHgFN4odSRHmS=jjYuvEDy1myRMOgKEYxy0bWu9e4-3V9i7A(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Brett Russ <bruss(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: >>> I agree that the power supply is suspect. You can measure the voltage >> >>> Alternatively, it may be easier to just try a replacement. >> >> I have a new one on the way. I'll reply here with the results. > > Well, brand new power supply and the system behaves the same > problematic way as before. > > So next try is the memory, as another list reply suggested. I've had > memtest86 running against both DIMMs for 47+ hours and counting, 70 > total passes so far, and 0 errors. Remember I'd already tried > removing first one DIMM, then the other, and the problem repro'd > either way. So by these measures it'd seem the memory is OK? I know > some mem problems take days to show up so I'll just leave this running > for a couple more days anyway. > > Not much more I can do here, as I've seen repros with most everything > else unplugged so I'm now thinking it must be the motherboard. > Perhaps I will try reseating the CPU--haven't done that yet. > > Recall the system is having trouble POST'ing: it hangs at various > points before BIOS POST completes, i.e. I don't get a confirming > 'beep' at end of POST and in some cases the monitor won't wake, other > cases the BIOS splash screen stays splashed, etc. The full original > email is here: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/2012-September/008059.html > > Anyway, if anyone has other ideas here I'd welcome them. > > Thanks again, > Brett > Hi Brett, You sound pretty convinced this is a PC hardware problem. I think I missed the earlier discussion, but how exactly do you know this is hardware at fault (vs anything not hardware at fault) and how certain are you? Have you tried running a "bootable operating system" via a CD or DVD drive as a diagnostic step (will it boot Ubuntu or another from the optical drive)? If CD/DVD boot is out, there are thumb drive bootable images also. I would start here and rule out everything that is not hardware. As a test, if a different O.S. than Ubuntu 11.10, runs well (except slower) from an optical drive, your hardware is likely fine (and instead have an Ubuntu 11 or app or driver problem). Step only takes a few minutes and is very telling (and well worth it IMHO). This step will likely tell you if it is hardware vs everything else. So if you can assure yourself it is hardware 100% ... All the PC hardware I have worked on in the past years is pretty much self diagnosing/reporting. In this case, your job if you choose to accept it, is to "read and decipher what the motherboard is telling you at boot up". To speak the language of your motherboard, you need to check for any of the following information: External to case, Rear facing LEDs (often have many and are multi-colored) On motherboard LEDs, viewable only inside Beep tones heard at boot up Error or other messages displayed quickly at bootup You need to read the "diagnostics" page of your model's specific PC or motherboard vendor's manual for this specific PC/motherboard to decipher what it is seeing at bootup (based upon lights/beeps/LEDS/etc). Sounds like: You either have two bad power supplies, or this is not the problem. You could have bad memory DIMM(s) that do pass MemTest86 (these test help, but I have seen them pass on bad chips it is a bit of a long shot though). You have changed the motherboard battery and flashed the latest BIOS. Don't rule out a new BIOS being a problem (glitch in install or wrong one or BIOS version problem) You still have a problem that could be hardware or not. You could have an Ubuntu 11 playing well with your motherboard, thus a test of another OS and version... If it was my PC I would next rule out the following in this order: Test and work on whatever the motherboard manufacturer is telling you via lights/beeps/LEDs/boot messages. Ubuntu V11.10, not because I don't like it but trying something else for 15 minutes could tell you something. The current version of CMOS you flashed to the motherboard

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Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 10/10 7PM: OpenStack
by Chuck Anderson Oct. 9, 2012

Oct. 9, 2012

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting will be held on Wednesday, October 10, at 7PM. The location will be WPI Higgins Labs, room 230 (computer lab). Wednesday, October 10, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Higgins Labs, room 230 (computer lab) WLUG member Tim Keller will be giving a presentation on OpenStack, open source software for building private and public clouds. Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group http://www.wlug.org/

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 107, Issue 13
by Karl Lind Oct. 1, 2012

Oct. 1, 2012

Hi Brett, First off, CMOS checksum errors during boot refer to MEMORY not the BIOS. Also almost all your symptoms point to a possible memory issue. Do Chuck's stuff to verify that you don't have a power drain that's causing a memory issue. Get a Memory Test utility and find out which DIMM is causing the problem. Carefully remove the DIMM and using a #2 pencil eraser, clean the contacts and replace the DIMM (The rubber removes oxidation that prevents contact) and don't forget to keep grounded! (You, not the DIMM). Cheers Karl On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. help diagnosing PC issue: suspect power supply (Brett Russ) > 2. Re: help diagnosing PC issue: suspect power supply > (Chuck Anderson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:32:05 -0400 > From: Brett Russ <bruss(a)alum.wpi.edu> > Subject: [Wlug] help diagnosing PC issue: suspect power supply > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <CAGcHgFNRd2jLrywD977a0jZChqEREnNBt529abY0= > fh2OU5FAA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > > I'm trying to diagnose a home built PC running fine since 2007 but lately > starting to act odd. Here are the system specs: > Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8GHz cpu > Asus P5B Deluxe mobo > Nvidia 7900GS graphics card > Kingston KHX6400 2x1GB DDR2 memory > Sparkle ATX 400W power supply > 3x 1TB SATA HDDs > 1x SATA DVD-RW > > $ uname -a > Linux spider 3.0.0-25-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 13 17:58:59 UTC 2012 > x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > $ cat /etc/*release > DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu > DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10 > DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric > DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10" > > $ uname -a > Linux spider 3.0.0-25-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 13 17:58:59 UTC 2012 > x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > > What recently changed: > > i) replaced monitor, last one died > > ii) (carefully) vacuumed the dust from inside. Kept hand on case chassis, > didn't touch any PCB/chips, etc. > > > Here are the symptoms: > > 1) first started seeing BIOS claims of bad CMOS checksum at boot time. > Immediately suspected the CMOS battery, replaced it and reset CMOS settings > but I continue to see this. This is the one symptom that I can't yet > place, unless it's simply a bad replacement battery. > > 2) next started seeing the monitor fail to wake up after entering power > save > > 3) powering on the PC shows issues: > > 3a) often the monitor won't wake at boot > > 3b) the bios often doesn't finish POST, gets stuck at splash screen > > 3c) bios settings often don't survive across power cycles (possibly related > to #1--battery issue?) > > 3d) bios doesn't always give the affirmative beep (likely same symptom as > 3a, 3b) > > 3e) a cold power on or reset can take several "tries" before the system > stays on. I.e. fans will spin up, then spin down, one to three times > before staying on. When this happens it's pretty much guaranteed that it > won't boot successfully. > > 4) system will freeze to user input while up. I.e. once I get Linux > booted, as long as I disable monitor power save it will stay running for a > while, but I observed it stopped responding to KB and mouse input earlier > this morning. > > > Here's what I've tried: > > a) reseated both DIMMs, reproduced issues; tried with just one DIMM, > repro'd; tried other DIMM, repro'd > > b) reseated graphics card, repro'd; removed graphics card (now headless), > repro'd problem 3e > > c) reseated CMOS battery (CR2032), repro'd > > d) pulled all non-essential cables and internal connections, including > power and SATA cables from all drives, repro'd > > e) updated BIOS to latest version, repro'd > > > Unfortunately I don't have another ATX power supply to try, but was > thinking of buying one. I might also try an old PCI video card, but I > suspect due to repro (b) above that it's not the cause. > > Anyone have any other insights or agree it sounds like a bad PS? I still > can't explain symptom (1), will probably buy another battery to be sure. > Five years seems like an old PC, but I'm not a gamer so this suits me fine. > > > Thanks, > Brett > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20120929/8959d06a/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:19:47 -0400 > From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] help diagnosing PC issue: suspect power supply > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <20120929221947.GH12327(a)angus.ind.WPI.EDU> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 02:32:05PM -0400, Brett Russ wrote: > > Sparkle ATX 400W power supply > > Anyone have any other insights or agree it sounds like a bad PS? I still > > can't explain symptom (1), will probably buy another battery to be sure. > > Five years seems like an old PC, but I'm not a gamer so this suits me > fine. > > I agree that the power supply is suspect. You can measure the voltage > on a spare power supply hard drive connector, there should be 12v from > black to yellow, and 5v from black to red. If that checks out, you > should measure from the motherboard ATX connector as some of the other > voltages may be out of spec. You can find the standard ATX pinouts > and voltages online. Finally, you can test with the power supply > completely disconnected from the PC. Again, you can find instructions > online for how to do that, as it requires a jumper wire for the power > supply to power on. > > Alternatively, it may be easier to just try a replacement. > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 107, Issue 13 > ************************************* >

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Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab?
by E Johnson Sept. 28, 2012

Sept. 28, 2012

Umm. Non-happy camper. ISP things have changed here, without me being informed. Recently (2 days ago) my modem started rebooting every little while. Zillions of T3 & T4 timouts in the modem log, Signal lavels were perfect when it was online. I own this thing, a Motorola SB6120 purchased late June 2010. It has not been abused. I am in Woosta & we all know the ISP available here. 2 techs showed up mid-morning, to diagnose and fix this issue. One guy stood there watching; the other guy "did stuff." They checked the signal levels on incoming line from the box connected to the pole our back, and declared my moden Dying. They talked to each other (not me) & seemed to think I was Granny-in-a-Box, until they let me say more than one sentence. These guys also confessed that since July 202, Ch4rter does not "allow" customers to own/run their own modems. Their consolation prize is that they don't charge modem rental fees any more. (it's not on the bill, anyway, FWIW). They mumbled some other mumbo jumbo and fled 5 seconds after they learned I have my own router too, & didn't care if the modem and router were yet in communication. They just said "better reboot" and they "no longer" service "wireless" --which I am not running except when certain visitors appear. I think they meant they don't diagnose routers, which has always been the policy, and which is fine. Internal LAN issues aren't their problem. So now I have a modem which may or may not be sick, but no way to test it to make sure. Is there anyone here who can take a look at this thing & test to see if it's Really Dying, or if Ch4rter deaded it with their latest firmware revision of their firmware & policy change in July 2012? An interesting meeting theme sometime might be how to get the Verizon FIOS in Worcester. Several years ago I watched Verizon trucks & Verizon moles installing their fiber optics in manholes all over town. Ch4rter is running on Verizon's infrastructure. Ch4rter internet has been working better since then, but we're still locked out of the option to use verizon. Is this a topic of interest to anyone? If so, I'll lead the discussion and even buy the Pizz4. To me, this is a Large Pizza problem. Another interesting but probably futile discussion might center around why we have suddenly been deprived of the ability to watch the behavior and effectiveness of our modems, which serve internet coming from our ISP.. I was not informed of this -- was anyone who is just a 'regular' customer? Meanwhile, if anyone has a test lab or whatever, where they can test my declared-dead modem, please let me know. Otherwise it's probably a giveaway, or another piece of Landfill Fodder. I can bring to a meeting & can wait for results. Thanks & happy pizzaz, Liz J

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Need recommendation on UPs for small home network.
by E Johnson Sept. 23, 2012

Sept. 23, 2012

Today and the other day we discussed my issues with a modem declared-dead by twin techs from my ISP. Part of that problem may have been caused by bad elex service here. I need a recommendation for a UPS to use here. We have dirty elex here in this 112 year-old central Worcester house, & inadequate amperage to my floor (top floor garret). Refrig runs on same circuit as my computers do. Lights dim when something downstairs also turns on, probably a microwave oven and/or a TV. This won't be fixed any time soon unless the landlady suddenly becomes a benefactress of the Gate$ Foundation, which will never happen. I could sometime get an electrician in here to add a suitable circuit for my floor, but it would be faster & better just to get an UPS, whether or not the elex here is ever upgraded. UPS here would only need to run max 2 PCs plus their monitors, one modem and router & a light bulb or two. Really needs to run only one. The primary PC here is mine, which has a 450W power supply running a 95W AMD FX4100 quad (bulldozer) no vid card. Antec Sonata II case has 2 fans. Mobo is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157292 Built June 2012. Works great. The other PC is a few years older; similar, but usually don't care if it shuts down in power outage or not. I need UPS to beep audibly in a power outage, but only need maybe 5 minutes to light a candle, go to office, save whatever is not saved & Halt. Otherwise just need UPS to smooth out the fluctuating elex here. I'm not clear from newegg or any vendor, which kind of UPS I need to get for this small home setup. Please would someone recommend what UPS would be suitable here, but not overkill. Thanks extremely, Liz J

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Re: [Wlug] Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? -- + update from ISP
by E Johnson Sept. 22, 2012

Sept. 22, 2012

Thanks, Karl. This makes sense. Why didn't I think of that! We have inadequate elex here which dips & dims lights frequently. Had sudden power outages a few times, including one very recently. I am not piping the modem logs anywhere; only check this if I notice an obvious problem. Results: Non available. Case (Motorola SB 6120) has only 2 screws, hex, 2 different sizes. No problem. Backplate then comes off & that's it. Nothing else to undo except whet seem to be clips, but we have no prybar tiny & thin enough to pry up these clip things. Case appears uncrackable, execpt maybe by dropping it from an airplane onto solid concrete. However. If it's only the power supply, I could test this by simply replacing the wall wart with an equivalent one from anywhere. Then I'd have to get the ISP to reprovision it, then watch to see if it worked any better after that. I do have an update from Ch4rter business office, which is relevant to my original beef with this ISP. Yesterday afternoon, I followed up by calling the business office, to ask why they changed their policy on what networking components their customers can or cannot own and administer themselves. The last person I spoke with said I am "grandfathered-in" to be allowed to own & run my own modem, since my account was opened before July, 2012 when the new poilcy was instituted (I'm a customer since there was something other than dial-up). Biz office says these techs who came to see me Thursday simply had "inadequate training" or "incorrect information" from their own supervisors. Both techs did look not older than about 3 days over 19. For the trouble call, I was promised a sup-tech & maybe one of these was, but only sup-ing the second guy how to open cardboard boxes of modems, smile at geekly grannies, & maybe how to drive the van. This modem is not in warranty & no longer manufactured (mine 2+ years old). But Motorola tech support confirmed that any old power supply 12V, 0.76A would run it. I'll borrow a power supply from somewhere, then try this thing one more time here before Responsibly Disposing of it by donating to a worthy friend's parts bin. Thanks very much, Liz J On 21 September 2012 21:52, Karl Lind <electrolind(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sounds more like the power supply is taking it's time to die. As the power > level dips thats where your errors/reboots are popping up. Easiest thing to > verify is 1.) Turn off the modem and unplug. 2.) Remove case and inspect > the board. 3.) If the board's solder connections look like there are not > good connections ANYWHERE on the board then you probably have a bad solder > issue, if the solder looks good, it's probably a power supply on the board > problem which is a chip. 4.) Post results > > Karl Lind > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > >> Send Wlug mailing list submissions to >> wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? (E Johnson) >> 2. Re: Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? (E Johnson) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:11:17 -0400 >> From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: [Wlug] Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? >> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >> Message-ID: >> < >> CABmZTj0aYBHVUR83fPcMBxxpu6-YhfoPDo5G9wB1pdBAAQWwHA(a)mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Umm. Non-happy camper. ISP things have changed here, without me being >> informed. Recently (2 days ago) my modem started rebooting every little >> while. Zillions of T3 & T4 timouts in the modem log, Signal lavels were >> perfect when it was online. I own this thing, a Motorola SB6120 purchased >> late June 2010. It has not been abused. >> >> I am in Woosta & we all know the ISP available here. 2 techs showed up >> mid-morning, to diagnose and fix this issue. One guy stood there watching; >> the other guy "did stuff." They checked the signal levels on incoming line >> from the box connected to the pole our back, and declared my moden Dying. >> They talked to each other (not me) & seemed to think I was >> Granny-in-a-Box, >> until they let me say more than one sentence. >> >> These guys also confessed that since July 202, Ch4rter does not "allow" >> customers to own/run their own modems. Their consolation prize is that >> they >> don't charge modem rental fees any more. (it's not on the bill, anyway, >> FWIW). They mumbled some other mumbo jumbo and fled 5 seconds after they >> learned I have my own router too, & didn't care if the modem and router >> were yet in communication. They just said "better reboot" and they "no >> longer" service "wireless" --which I am not running except when certain >> visitors appear. I think they meant they don't diagnose routers, which has >> always been the policy, and which is fine. Internal LAN issues aren't >> their >> problem. >> >> So now I have a modem which may or may not be sick, but no way to test it >> to make sure. Is there anyone here who can take a look at this thing & >> test >> to see if it's Really Dying, or if Ch4rter deaded it with their latest >> firmware revision of their firmware & policy change in July 2012? >> >> An interesting meeting theme sometime might be how to get the Verizon FIOS >> in Worcester. Several years ago I watched Verizon trucks & Verizon moles >> installing their fiber optics in manholes all over town. Ch4rter is >> running >> on Verizon's infrastructure. Ch4rter internet has been working better >> since >> then, but we're still locked out of the option to use verizon. Is this a >> topic of interest to anyone? If so, I'll lead the discussion and even buy >> the Pizz4. To me, this is a Large Pizza problem. >> >> Another interesting but probably futile discussion might center around why >> we have suddenly been deprived of the ability to watch the behavior and >> effectiveness of our modems, which serve internet coming from our ISP.. I >> was not informed of this -- was anyone who is just a 'regular' customer? >> >> Meanwhile, if anyone has a test lab or whatever, where they can test my >> declared-dead modem, please let me know. Otherwise it's probably a >> giveaway, or another piece of Landfill Fodder. I can bring to a meeting & >> can wait for results. >> >> Thanks & happy pizzaz, >> Liz J >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20120920/8789bb41/attachmen… >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:31:59 -0400 >> From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? >> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >> Message-ID: >> < >> CABmZTj3Ghp2GHUiWHtGtbBN5NVo0HQKzkrWcvxNngP5_q2hcGQ(a)mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> PS: This evening, Ch4rter Billing has deleted the upcoming service charge >> for this morning's tech call. Amazing how it took 2 guys to check line >> levels, then hang one moden where my other modem was, + plug in one coax & >> one wall wart , then make 30-sec call to the office to get their >> repacement >> modem provisioned & watch for blinking green lights. 2 guys. >> If this happens to you (they discontinued your router & required you to >> use >> theirs), don't eat the bill. >> it does work fine, FWIW, but not impressed. >> --EJ >> >> On 20 September 2012 19:11, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Umm. Non-happy camper. ISP things have changed here, without me being >> > informed. Recently (2 days ago) my modem started rebooting every little >> > while. Zillions of T3 & T4 timouts in the modem log, Signal lavels were >> > perfect when it was online. I own this thing, a Motorola SB6120 >> purchased >> > late June 2010. It has not been abused. >> > >> > I am in Woosta & we all know the ISP available here. 2 techs showed up >> > mid-morning, to diagnose and fix this issue. One guy stood there >> watching; >> > the other guy "did stuff." They checked the signal levels on incoming >> line >> > from the box connected to the pole our back, and declared my moden >> Dying. >> > They talked to each other (not me) & seemed to think I was >> Granny-in-a-Box, >> > until they let me say more than one sentence. >> > >> > These guys also confessed that since July 202, Ch4rter does not "allow" >> > customers to own/run their own modems. Their consolation prize is that >> they >> > don't charge modem rental fees any more. (it's not on the bill, anyway, >> > FWIW). They mumbled some other mumbo jumbo and fled 5 seconds after they >> > learned I have my own router too, & didn't care if the modem and router >> > were yet in communication. They just said "better reboot" and they "no >> > longer" service "wireless" --which I am not running except when certain >> > visitors appear. I think they meant they don't diagnose routers, which >> has >> > always been the policy, and which is fine. Internal LAN issues aren't >> their >> > problem. >> > >> > So now I have a modem which may or may not be sick, but no way to test >> it >> > to make sure. Is there anyone here who can take a look at this thing & >> test >> > to see if it's Really Dying, or if Ch4rter deaded it with their latest >> > firmware revision of their firmware & policy change in July 2012? >> > >> > An interesting meeting theme sometime might be how to get the Verizon >> FIOS >> > in Worcester. Several years ago I watched Verizon trucks & Verizon moles >> > installing their fiber optics in manholes all over town. Ch4rter is >> running >> > on Verizon's infrastructure. Ch4rter internet has been working better >> since >> > then, but we're still locked out of the option to use verizon. Is this a >> > topic of interest to anyone? If so, I'll lead the discussion and even >> buy >> > the Pizz4. To me, this is a Large Pizza problem. >> > >> > Another interesting but probably futile discussion might center around >> why >> > we have suddenly been deprived of the ability to watch the behavior and >> > effectiveness of our modems, which serve internet coming from our ISP.. >> I >> > was not informed of this -- was anyone who is just a 'regular' customer? >> > >> > Meanwhile, if anyone has a test lab or whatever, where they can test my >> > declared-dead modem, please let me know. Otherwise it's probably a >> > giveaway, or another piece of Landfill Fodder. I can bring to a meeting >> & >> > can wait for results. >> > >> > Thanks & happy pizzaz, >> > Liz J >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20120920/8a927db4/attachmen… >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> End of Wlug Digest, Vol 107, Issue 5 >> ************************************ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 107, Issue 5
by Karl Lind Sept. 22, 2012

Sept. 22, 2012

Sounds more like the power supply is taking it's time to die. As the power level dips thats where your errors/reboots are popping up. Easiest thing to verify is 1.) Turn off the modem and unplug. 2.) Remove case and inspect the board. 3.) If the board's solder connections look like there are not good connections ANYWHERE on the board then you probably have a bad solder issue, if the solder looks good, it's probably a power supply on the board problem which is a chip. 4.) Post results Karl Lind On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? (E Johnson) > 2. Re: Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? (E Johnson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:11:17 -0400 > From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Wlug] Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CABmZTj0aYBHVUR83fPcMBxxpu6-YhfoPDo5G9wB1pdBAAQWwHA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Umm. Non-happy camper. ISP things have changed here, without me being > informed. Recently (2 days ago) my modem started rebooting every little > while. Zillions of T3 & T4 timouts in the modem log, Signal lavels were > perfect when it was online. I own this thing, a Motorola SB6120 purchased > late June 2010. It has not been abused. > > I am in Woosta & we all know the ISP available here. 2 techs showed up > mid-morning, to diagnose and fix this issue. One guy stood there watching; > the other guy "did stuff." They checked the signal levels on incoming line > from the box connected to the pole our back, and declared my moden Dying. > They talked to each other (not me) & seemed to think I was Granny-in-a-Box, > until they let me say more than one sentence. > > These guys also confessed that since July 202, Ch4rter does not "allow" > customers to own/run their own modems. Their consolation prize is that they > don't charge modem rental fees any more. (it's not on the bill, anyway, > FWIW). They mumbled some other mumbo jumbo and fled 5 seconds after they > learned I have my own router too, & didn't care if the modem and router > were yet in communication. They just said "better reboot" and they "no > longer" service "wireless" --which I am not running except when certain > visitors appear. I think they meant they don't diagnose routers, which has > always been the policy, and which is fine. Internal LAN issues aren't their > problem. > > So now I have a modem which may or may not be sick, but no way to test it > to make sure. Is there anyone here who can take a look at this thing & test > to see if it's Really Dying, or if Ch4rter deaded it with their latest > firmware revision of their firmware & policy change in July 2012? > > An interesting meeting theme sometime might be how to get the Verizon FIOS > in Worcester. Several years ago I watched Verizon trucks & Verizon moles > installing their fiber optics in manholes all over town. Ch4rter is running > on Verizon's infrastructure. Ch4rter internet has been working better since > then, but we're still locked out of the option to use verizon. Is this a > topic of interest to anyone? If so, I'll lead the discussion and even buy > the Pizz4. To me, this is a Large Pizza problem. > > Another interesting but probably futile discussion might center around why > we have suddenly been deprived of the ability to watch the behavior and > effectiveness of our modems, which serve internet coming from our ISP.. I > was not informed of this -- was anyone who is just a 'regular' customer? > > Meanwhile, if anyone has a test lab or whatever, where they can test my > declared-dead modem, please let me know. Otherwise it's probably a > giveaway, or another piece of Landfill Fodder. I can bring to a meeting & > can wait for results. > > Thanks & happy pizzaz, > Liz J > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20120920/8789bb41/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:31:59 -0400 > From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab? > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > < > CABmZTj3Ghp2GHUiWHtGtbBN5NVo0HQKzkrWcvxNngP5_q2hcGQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > PS: This evening, Ch4rter Billing has deleted the upcoming service charge > for this morning's tech call. Amazing how it took 2 guys to check line > levels, then hang one moden where my other modem was, + plug in one coax & > one wall wart , then make 30-sec call to the office to get their repacement > modem provisioned & watch for blinking green lights. 2 guys. > If this happens to you (they discontinued your router & required you to use > theirs), don't eat the bill. > it does work fine, FWIW, but not impressed. > --EJ > > On 20 September 2012 19:11, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Umm. Non-happy camper. ISP things have changed here, without me being > > informed. Recently (2 days ago) my modem started rebooting every little > > while. Zillions of T3 & T4 timouts in the modem log, Signal lavels were > > perfect when it was online. I own this thing, a Motorola SB6120 > purchased > > late June 2010. It has not been abused. > > > > I am in Woosta & we all know the ISP available here. 2 techs showed up > > mid-morning, to diagnose and fix this issue. One guy stood there > watching; > > the other guy "did stuff." They checked the signal levels on incoming > line > > from the box connected to the pole our back, and declared my moden Dying. > > They talked to each other (not me) & seemed to think I was > Granny-in-a-Box, > > until they let me say more than one sentence. > > > > These guys also confessed that since July 202, Ch4rter does not "allow" > > customers to own/run their own modems. Their consolation prize is that > they > > don't charge modem rental fees any more. (it's not on the bill, anyway, > > FWIW). They mumbled some other mumbo jumbo and fled 5 seconds after they > > learned I have my own router too, & didn't care if the modem and router > > were yet in communication. They just said "better reboot" and they "no > > longer" service "wireless" --which I am not running except when certain > > visitors appear. I think they meant they don't diagnose routers, which > has > > always been the policy, and which is fine. Internal LAN issues aren't > their > > problem. > > > > So now I have a modem which may or may not be sick, but no way to test it > > to make sure. Is there anyone here who can take a look at this thing & > test > > to see if it's Really Dying, or if Ch4rter deaded it with their latest > > firmware revision of their firmware & policy change in July 2012? > > > > An interesting meeting theme sometime might be how to get the Verizon > FIOS > > in Worcester. Several years ago I watched Verizon trucks & Verizon moles > > installing their fiber optics in manholes all over town. Ch4rter is > running > > on Verizon's infrastructure. Ch4rter internet has been working better > since > > then, but we're still locked out of the option to use verizon. Is this a > > topic of interest to anyone? If so, I'll lead the discussion and even buy > > the Pizz4. To me, this is a Large Pizza problem. > > > > Another interesting but probably futile discussion might center around > why > > we have suddenly been deprived of the ability to watch the behavior and > > effectiveness of our modems, which serve internet coming from our ISP.. I > > was not informed of this -- was anyone who is just a 'regular' customer? > > > > Meanwhile, if anyone has a test lab or whatever, where they can test my > > declared-dead modem, please let me know. Otherwise it's probably a > > giveaway, or another piece of Landfill Fodder. I can bring to a meeting & > > can wait for results. > > > > Thanks & happy pizzaz, > > Liz J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20120920/8a927db4/attachmen… > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 107, Issue 5 > ************************************ >

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