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Searching for motherboards (was trading PIII)
by Stephen C. Daukas 23 Feb '02

23 Feb '02

I'm broadening the search a bit, and was wondering if anyone can recommend some local hardware shops... By way of repeating my situation, and giving a bit more detail, I have a SECC2 (a.k.a. slot 1) PIII 850 processor that won't run on my motherboard (an Intel SE440BX-2 Slot 1 type) because of motherboard rev issues. I am offering a swap for a SECC2 PIII running at 550 or 600. I am also now looking to see if anyone knows of a local source for a motherboard capable of running a Slot 1 PIIIs at 850. This is older technology (Intel no longer make Slot 1), so I need to see what I can find that is already in the distribution channel. I really like Intel boards, so Intel would be my first choice. Anyone know of a local source, Intel or otherwise? Thanks! Steve

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Re: [Wlug] Searching for motherboards (was trading PIII)
by luke macneil 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

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Anyone interested in trading PIII CPU's?
by Stephen C. Daukas 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

So here is the sad and embarrassing story... It began at Christmastime when my father-in-law decided to give me two CPU upgrades and a bunch of memory. To make a very long and sad story shorter, the PIII 850 MHz CPU I got is not compatible with my motherboard (an Intel SE2, specifically 720-series). So, I have a PIII 850 I can't use and was wondering if anyone would like to swap a PIII 550 or 600 MHz for the PIII 850. Yes, you read correctly, I am willing to trade down! If anyone is interested in the details, the following URL will give you all you want to know: http://developer.intel.com/design/motherbd/se2/se2_proc.htm. You will note the listing of motherboard revisions in the third column of the chart. You will also note that the 600 MHz PIII is the fastest chip my board can support, it not being a 754-series board. Thanks, Steve P.S., don't let Doug know about this... ;-)

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Charter & servers?
by Bill Mills-Curran 21 Feb '02

21 Feb '02

Does anyone have any experience with Charter cable checking up on services? I have a couple of ssh holes in my firewall, which has not caused any trouble. Now, I'm considering hosting a very low bandwidth web site, but I'm concerned about Charter doing some port scanning and deciding that I'm doing something wrong. More detail... I'm involved with planning a summer camp for the Boy Scouts, and I think that bugzilla would be a great way to help track the myriad of tasks with the multiple volunteers. I'd probably set it up for SSL only. As an alternative, I could just set the few users up with ssh access & teach them how to set up port forwarding, but some of these guys have only MS experience. (Does the windows ssh support port forwarding?) Opinions? TIA, Bill

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(off topic) high speed internet access in shrewsbury
by Baris Hasdemir 20 Feb '02

20 Feb '02

Hi, I apologize for my slightly off topic question. But I need help on this subject. I want to have high speed internet access that I can use with linux without any problems. I mean I don't want to use PPPoE, if possible. I live in Shrewsbury. Unfortunately verizon can not afford 'dsl'izing our telephone line. (strange that my next door qualifies for DSL while we can not) I am thinking of switching my local phone line provider, perhaps another company may provide DSL on my telephone line? Am I correct? Or if verizon cannot do it, none of them can do it? Speaking about the cable choice, 'townisp' of Shrewsbury charges $50 for a month of access with a speed limit of 25-30 KB/sec and a setup charge of $99. and also a download limit of 2GB a month which is a real drawback if you like to test new distributions like myself. I do not think that their offer is attractive, am I wrong? Anyways..., being new in the US I need recommendations on which way to go for high speed internet access. I hope there are some people on this list living in Shrewsbury and do have high speed internet access despite Verizon Company. :) Thank you very much, baris

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One step CD ripping to MP3?
by rb＠millbury.net 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

Here's a question from someone who doesn't do much Linux multimedia (me) but has a friend who wants a solution. Situation: Friend wants an MP3 server for his home network to play his large CD collection. I've been trying out edna (http://edna.sourceforge.net/) to serve/stream MP3s and its a nice simple and satisfactory solution. Works well in that it is basically a webserver that is accessible from any computer on the network. Does multiple streams as well. Problem: Is there an automated way in Linux to place an audio CD-ROM into the tray and have it rip into 256k "CD-quality" MP3s without user intervention? I know about lame as an encoder from .wav to .mp3. Are there any automated solutions available (or creatable) that will allow my friend to buy a new CD, place it in his Linux MP3 server CD tray, have it rip to 256k MP3s without him having to press any keys/buttons, then eject the disk after ripping? I'm not a very good script writer so any help there is also welcomed. Currently, he is using RealJukebox on Win2K to rip to .wav and RazorLame to encode to MP3 since the free version of RJB only encodes to 96k. A two stage process that I *KNOW* Linux could do better all by itself in one! <grin> -- Rob -= rb(a)millbury.net =-

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network questions
by bryon3245＠netzero.com 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

I have a couple of questions. Why would you want a hub over a switch? What firewall under linux would you suggest, what would the best way to set up a firewall-router box with two nic's? Thanks for you'r help -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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reading/writing floppy disk
by Gregory Avedissian 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

I'm a little confused. Do I have to mount and unmount /dev/fd0 every time I want to look at a different floppy disk? Is there a less cumbersome way to do this? Thanks. Greg

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apt-get across multiple computers
by David Lee Ludwig 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

I am currently helping to manage a small network of Linux workstations, each of which runs Debian. Given that each workstation has a good amount of hard disk space on it, I generally keep software installations local. Additionally, most of the software on these machines is managed via Debian's apt system. I'm looking for an easy way to get apt-get functionality across these workstations (all run the same version of Debian.) More specifically, I want a distributed version of "apt-get install". Does anyone know of a pre-built set of scripts/tools that will allow me to do this, or am I going to have to write my own? -- David Ludwig | "The Linux philosophy is laugh in the face of davidl<at>wpi.edu | danger. Oops. Wrong One. 'Do it yourself.' http://www.oflove.com | That's it." - Linus Torvalds

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ide-scsi
by Gregory Avedissian 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

I got it to work! In case anyone is interested, here's what it looks like on SuSE 7.2 with cdrom as hdb and cdrw as hdc: After messing around with manually editing lilo.conf with no luck, I finally used yast2 LILO configuration to make a boot floppy and got the boot parameters right. /dev/ram hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi ide-cd ignore=hdb ignore=hdc Or, booting with loadlin, the dos batch file contains: c:\windows\smartdrv/c cd \loadlin loadlin vmlinuz /dev/ram rw initrd=c:\loadlin\initrd root=/dev/hda4 ro hdc=ide-scsi hdb=ide-scsi ide-cd ignore=hdc ignore=hdb Below is /etc/lilo.conf Does the reference "BOOT_FILE=/boot/vmlinuz" in the append line of the global section mean that I'll boot that image regardless of my menu choices? If anyone sees any glaring errors or anything that will kill my computer, please let me know. I guess I should try it. As far as I can tell, there's no difference between vmlinuz and vmlinuz.suse, but I suppose I could replace on with a different kernel. I'm going to send this message before I try rebooting. Greg # LILO configuration file # Start LILO global Section # If you want to prevent console users to boot with init=/bin/bash, # restrict usage of boot params by setting a passwd and using the option # restricted. #password=bootpwd #restricted append="BOOT_FILE=/boot/vmlinuz /dev/ram hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi ide-cd ignore=hdb ignore=hdc" boot=/dev/fd0 #compact # faster, but won't work on all systems. lba32 vga=normal message=/boot/message menu-scheme=Wg:kw:Wg:Wg read-only prompt timeout=80 # End LILO global Section # image = /boot/vmlinuz root = /dev/hda4 label = linux initrd = /boot/initrd # image = /boot/vmlinuz.suse root = /dev/hda4 label = suse initrd = /boot/initrd.suse optional # other = /dev/hda1 label = windows table = /dev/hda # image = /boot/memtest.bin label = memtest86

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Re: [Wlug] Newbie Answer.
by Gregory Avedissian 16 Feb '02

16 Feb '02

> > I believe the file /etc/init.d/boot.local is the SuSE equivalent of > rc.local, at least boot.local is "where you can enter additional > commands > to be executed at boot time before changing to a run level" > (cf 7.2 manual, page 313) > > doug > _______________________________________________ Thanks, Doug. I found that file, and it says the exact same thing at the end of the file. Any idea why the same file also exists in /etc/rc.d/ along with boot.setup and some others? Greg

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web bugs
by Charles R. Anderson 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

I made a reference to "web bugs" in a previous email. Those of you who use HTML mail readers may be interested in this: http://www.privacyfoundation.org/resources/webbug.asp -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

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Killer Apps Image.
by luke macneil 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

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Newbie Answer.
by luke macneil 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

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linux handheld question
by Wesley Allen 13 Feb '02

13 Feb '02

Hi all, Recently I've been thinking of picking up a linux-based handheld and I've always been interested in the agenda vr3. It seems that their phone numbers have been disconnected, but the web site still works, as does their e-mail server. Are they out of business? Did they just forget about their web site? Anyway, I've been thinking of saving up some cash and snagging one of the vr3's that show up on ebay constantly (just as a toy to have around). Has anyone used one? What do you think? Should I just save up a lot of cash and get a zarus? And can I run a palm emulator on zarus? Thanks. Wes

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting Thursday, Feb. 14th
by Andy Stewart 12 Feb '02

12 Feb '02

HI everybody, This e-mail is to remind you about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Thursday, February 14th, 2002, in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus. This is our "normal" meeting location. At this meeting, WLUG member Marc Hughes will be presenting some information about Borland's Kylix software which runs on Linux. For more info, consult http://www.borland.com/kylix. I'll be showing the kylix development environment, touching briefly on the licensing issues with their "free" version, creating a small app, and then showing off a larger more complex application. Time permitting, I'll quickly go over some other development environments such as Kdeveloper and glade. Also at this meeting, I'll give a quick financial report and we'll talk about the results of the install fest from this past weekend. There will be a couple of items available for raffle. Refreshments will be available. After the meeting, we'll go to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. This has become quite a tradition after WLUG meetings and is a great time. See ya on Thursday, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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Re: [Wlug] Newbie question
by Marc Hughes 12 Feb '02

12 Feb '02

(Sorry about the double-post, but I feel your pain for the html email) Under most distros you can just add it to your /etc/fstab. This file tells linux what and how to mount various file systems. I would assume it works under Suse. The fstab of the machine I'm on looks like this: /dev/rd/c0d0p3 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/rd/c0d0p1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p6 /data ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p2 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p5 /tmp ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p1 /usr ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p3 /var ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/rd/c0d0p2 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults 0 0 Which is a horrible example for a newbie question since the weird dev devices are hardware raid. But the last line is the interesting one. It tells the system to mount /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windows using the vfat file system. There are a bunch of options you can put in there like making it user-mountable, read all about those in the man pages (man fstab) -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@ma.ultranet.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:46 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Newbie question Where do I put the command to mount my windows partition in linux, automatically at bootup, so I don't have to keep typing it? Using SuSE 7.2 and usually booting with loadlin, occasionally booting with floppy. Thanks in advance, Greg P.S. More questions to come as I figure out how to ask them. Fair Warning: I own a cdrw and a scanner. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Newbie question
by Marc Hughes 12 Feb '02

12 Feb '02

Under most distros you can just add it to your /etc/fstab. This file tells linux what and how to mount various file systems. I would assume it works under Suse. The fstab of the machine I'm on looks like this: /dev/rd/c0d0p3 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/rd/c0d0p1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p6 /data ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p2 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p5 /tmp ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p1 /usr ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p3 /var ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/rd/c0d0p2 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults 0 0 Which is a horrible example for a newbie question since the weird dev devices are hardware raid. But the last line is the interesting one. It tells the system to mount /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windows using the vfat file system. There are a bunch of options you can put in there like making it user-mountable, read all about those in the man pages (man fstab) -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@ma.ultranet.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:46 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Newbie question Where do I put the command to mount my windows partition in linux, automatically at bootup, so I don't have to keep typing it? Using SuSE 7.2 and usually booting with loadlin, occasionally booting with floppy. Thanks in advance, Greg P.S. More questions to come as I figure out how to ask them. Fair Warning: I own a cdrw and a scanner. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Downloads...
by Stephen C. Daukas 12 Feb '02

12 Feb '02

While I think having an ISO image for download would be a good idea, a general download area where folks can post items of interest, say from one of the WLUGs, might be a better idea. That way, if someone has items that have been discussed in either a meeting or on the mailing list, then they can put it somewhere for others to grab. Of course, there is the perennial problem of making sure this isn't used for illicit materials and/or that the site isn't swamped, but there are many ways to manage that. Most companies have an area for this sort of thing and I'll bet we could come up with a solution as well. Too bad I can't make the next meeting, but I'll bet a good discussion over pizza and beer might yield some good ideas! Regards, Steve P.S. I'm just in the process of building a new RH server machine for myself and my domains. I plan on having such a download area and would be interested in being educated as to the pros and cons of that sort of service. I had thought about putting Linux stuff in there, so maybe there is a potential fit with WLUG?

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Andy's new e-mail address
by Andy Stewart 12 Feb '02

12 Feb '02

HI gang, My new e-mail address,which is working now, is: andystewart(a)attbi.com Mail sent to my old address will be forwarded until March 15, 2002, at which time it will get dropped on the floor. I have update all links with my name on the WLUG website (I think). Now I just have to find the other 5000 places to change....... -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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4th annual Installfest a complete success!
by Keller, Tim 11 Feb '02

11 Feb '02

Hey All, The installfest was a complete success! Statistics: Total Installs: 8 Percentage successful: 100% Installs that were a no-show: ~2 (both Stratus employees, I'll be hunting them down later today...) Pizzas Ordered: 6 Percentage devoured: 100% Number of junker pc's that one installee cannibalized to make one working machine: 3 Raffle Info: Congratulations to Colin Novick and Bill Mills-Curran who both won copies of "Linux System Administration: A Users Guide." The Installers: Andy Stewart Al Butler Brian Waite Chuck Anderson David Lugwig Mani Sundaram Marc Hughes (If I've forgotten anybody, just send an addendum...) Other Stuff: Someone asked about the goodies CD's... There are a couple of things. 1. If Chuck has the space, I'd gladly upload it and he can mount it on a loopback. 2. I will cut a couple more copies (I might add some more stuff) and bring them to the meeting on Thursday. If you specify want a copy, drop me a line and I'll make you up one explicitly. This year was a resounding success and I'm hoping that the 5th annual will be even better! Later! Tim.

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Installfest.
by luke macneil 11 Feb '02

11 Feb '02

Im sorry I didnt make it to the installfest, I was really planning on it. I slept until 2:30, then I printed the directions and headed for 495.. but once i got to the ramp it was 3 oclock... and the installfest ended at 4... so I just turned around and went home.. Im pissed, I really wanted a Killer Apps CD :) Luke. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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WLUG Install Fest CDs
by Andy Stewart 11 Feb '02

11 Feb '02

Hey gang, DON'T do what I just did. My WLUG install fest CDs were quite dusty when I got them home, so I rinsed them off in water as I have done with other CDs many times in the past. However, the paint on the WLUG install fest CDs is WATER SOLUBLE and washes away very quickly in cold water. :-( Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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(no subject)
by Wesley Allen 10 Feb '02

10 Feb '02

Hi all, How did the install-fest go? I really wanted to come, but my daughter came down with a high fever and we had to schedule a doctor's appointment. I could have come earlier than I was planning but it didn't feel right to say to my two year old, "Sorry you feel awful and need to go to the doctor, daddy can't play right now I'm going to hang out with a buch I geeks I've never even personally met" I was rather proud of myself, I only considered telling my daughter for about a second before I slapped myself in the face ("But for an android, that is a lifetime"). How many people showed up?? Wes

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Installfest Photos
by David Lee Ludwig 10 Feb '02

10 Feb '02

Photos from today's installfest are up at: http://gallery.oflove.com/wlug -- David Ludwig | "The Linux philosophy is laugh in the face of davidl<at>wpi.edu | danger. Oops. Wrong One. 'Do it yourself.' http://www.oflove.com | That's it." - Linus Torvalds

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