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RE: [Wlug] Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area)
by Simoncini, Matthew April 3, 2002

April 3, 2002

www.speakeasy.net -----Original Message----- From: Stephen C. Daukas [mailto:stephen@daukas.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:42 AM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area) A friend of mine has a small business in Westborough and I helped put together a web site for him. He now wants to dump AOL and get a less expensive "dial-up account". Anyone have a recommendation? He is paying ~$25/month for AOL... He doesn't want/need Charter, just wants to check mail a few times during the day. Also, anyone know if you can set-up email forwarding in AOL? Thanks! Steve _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Another interesting .signature...
by Stephen C. Daukas April 3, 2002

April 3, 2002

"Volk" means "people". You can figure out the rest. "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Ad "Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler

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Problems dropping telnet sessions
by Simoncini, Matthew April 2, 2002

April 2, 2002

Hello all, I recently traded in my Solaris 8 (x86) install for SuSE Linux 7.3 and now am having problems keeping telnet sessions open for extended periods of time. Let me give a little background on what I use this box for. Basically my linux box is used as a workstation for system monitoring. I usually have 6 to 8 separate desktops which I use to separate our different Unix environments (i.e. development, test, production ...). I may run HP Openview client on one desktop to monitor alerts and keep telnet sessions open on other desktops in order to quickly access a given server. Until recently I've been using Solaris 8 (x86) with no problems, but decided I wanted to get comfortable with linux and prove to my boss that there are many nice things we can do with linux that we can't do with Solaris. I installed SuSe 7.3 (2.4.10 kernel) and since have had troubles keeping telnet connections alive. What I mean by that is, when I leave the linux workstation inactive for a period of time (let's say 30 minutes), my telnet sessions are disconnected with the message "Connection closed by foreign host". I can find no messages in /var/adm/messages (on the Solaris side) or /var/log/messages (on the linux side). Anyone have this type of problem or more importantly, can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks. Matthew

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poor PCMCIA network performance
by Robert L Krawitz April 2, 2002

April 2, 2002

I use two network cards in my Dell Inspiron 8000 (PIII-700): a 3Com 3CCFE574BT and a Linksys wireless card. With the 3Com card (which is a 10/100) I never get better than 1.4 MB/sec (about 12 Mb/sec), even when the card is in 100 Mb mode (at some point in the past the limit was about 2.5 MB/sec). At that rate, top shows my CPU utilization pegged at about 100%, even doing a simple ftp. I know the card doesn't do DMA, but that's rather slow even for a PIO transfer. These cards have been around for ages; I don't think people would have been too satisfied with 400 KB/sec saturating a 200 MHz system. On the Linksys card, I likewise never get more than about 250 KB/sec, even if the computer is right next to the WAP and the link quality is 92/92, suggesting that I'm also hitting up against a hard limit. The WAP is connected to my main system via the motherboard ethernet, which I know from other means (when I was transferring data from my previous system to the current one) has no trouble maxing out at 10 MB/sec (that ethernet does DMA). eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"..." Nickname:"..." Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437GHz Access Point: 00:04:5A:CF:F3:B1 Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry min limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link Quality:26/92 Signal level:-76 dBm Noise level:-149 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 I'm running SuSE 7.3 on both systems, with a recompiled kernel based on kernel-source-2.4.16.SuSE-24. I'm not (or don't think I am) running a firewall or NAT on the laptop, despite what's in the module list. I've had no luck finding anything on the net. Modules that look like they should be relevant are: orinoco_cs 4352 1 orinoco 27312 0 [orinoco_cs] hermes 3200 0 [orinoco_cs orinoco] af_packet 11616 0 (autoclean) appletalk 18832 0 (autoclean) ipx 15008 0 (autoclean) ds 6384 2 [orinoco_cs] yenta_socket 8368 2 pcmcia_core 37568 0 [orinoco_cs ds yenta_socket] ipv6 124480 -1 (autoclean) iptable_nat 12560 0 (autoclean) (unused) ip_conntrack 12656 1 (autoclean) [iptable_nat] iptable_filter 1728 0 (autoclean) (unused) ip_tables 10304 4 [iptable_nat iptable_filter] Suggestions? -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gimp Print/stp -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

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T&G guotes
by doug waud April 1, 2002

April 1, 2002

Hi I liked the following two quotes in today's (4/1/02) Telegram and Gazette (page A8) "Microsoft bids to acquire Catholic Church" and "Microsoft exploding an underground nuclear device" doug

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RE: [Wlug] T&G guotes
by Keller, Tim April 1, 2002

April 1, 2002

Well, the first one I could actually conceive of... You figure, if they acquire the catholic church they'd just decree that as of baptism you signed the EULA (sorta like opening the package means you agree to the terms (that are on the slip of paper inside the package..)) since the EULA basically means microsoft could set off a nuclear device and get away with it, they'd have no problem proving in court that the church isn't responsible for faulty prietware. As for the nuclear device, If its a microsoft nuclear device I can see the following things happening... 1. Needs repeated reboots before exploding. 2. The trigger will need to have a service pack installed. 3. You'll need to buy MSND 1.5 to get the newest features (like exploding) 4. You'll need to have IE installed along with the latest direct X drivers. 5. before exploding you'll need to get a MSND registration number and enter it in binary using a telegraph pad. 6. "Explode" and "Disarm" will be the same button... Just some thoughts... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: doug waud [mailto:douglas.waud@umassmed.edu] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:36 AM To: wlug Subject: [Wlug] T&G guotes Hi I liked the following two quotes in today's (4/1/02) Telegram and Gazette (page A8) "Microsoft bids to acquire Catholic Church" and "Microsoft exploding an underground nuclear device" doug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Humorous signature file...
by Stephen C. Daukas March 30, 2002

March 30, 2002

Came across this one in a newsgroup: (The first day Microsoft produces something that doesn't suck will be the day they start making vacuum-cleaners) Steve

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Request from academic researcher -- follow up
by Utpal M. Dholakia March 29, 2002

March 29, 2002

Dear Linux User Group Moderator: I am a faculty member in the Jones school of management at Rice University in Houston, Texas (this may be verified using a Google search with "Paul Dholakia", or "Utpal Dholakia"). We are conducting an academic research project, studying social interactions online, and how communities organized around products or brands are formed, from a sociological perspective. In this regard, LINUX user groups and mailing lists provide a wonderful context to study these sociological issues. We are conducting a survey of members of LINUX user groups/ mailing lists seeking information on different elements of their thoughts, feelings, and motivations of participating in such groups, and the value of the group to them... The survey is available on the web at the following URL: http://www.surveypro.com/cgi-bin/surveypro/run_survey.cgi?id=2444 Of course, this research is strictly academic, and has no commercial links or interests whatsoever. We hope to publish this research in a sociology journal. As a small token of our appreciation for participants' time, and in the spirit of the philosophy underlying the open-source movement, we will donate $500 total to the five favorite organizations/ groups of our participants' choice (we ask the participant's to nominate their favorite groups in the survey). I am writing to seek your help in conducting this research, first through participating, and second, through encouraging your user group members to participate in the research.. This will not take more than ten minutes of your (and their time). Broad participation will increase the validity and generalizability of our findings, making the research more useful. We welcome all help, and look forward to hearing from you. Best wishes, Paul Dholakia Assistant Professor Rice University http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~dholakia

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Win4Lin
by Skip Gaede March 28, 2002

March 28, 2002

Folks, This is not a commercial endorsement. I just installed Win4Lin, the product that lets you run Windows under Linux, and, for those occasions when you need Windows, it's very nice. Performance is decent, and there are only a few enhancements needed: 1) Max memory supported for Windows is 64 MB 2) Only supports serial, parallel, and virtual NIC (no scanners, USB) 3) No DirectX yet They're working on adding those goodies. But I can run Photo-Paint, TurboTax, some Windows-based Bible software packages, ... all without multibooting. At $80.00, that's not a bad price to pay. --Skip

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SCSI error message
by Bill Mills-Curran March 25, 2002

March 25, 2002

I added a 2nd disk to my linux box, and I'm getting these messages at boot. (I'm not 100% sure they are new messages, because it's been a long time since I've booted.) Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00 Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:08.0 Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) <Adaptec AIC-7880 Ultra SCSI host adapter> found at PCI 0/8/0 Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) Wide Channel, SCSI ID=7, 16/255 SCBs Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) Warning - detected auto-termination Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) Please verify driver detected settings are correct. Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) If not, then please properly set the device termination Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) in the Adaptec SCSI BIOS by hitting CTRL-A when prompted Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) during machine bootup. Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) Cables present (Int-50 YES, Int-68 YES, Ext-68 YES) Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) Illegal cable configuration!! Only two Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) connectors on the SCSI controller may be in use at a time! Other than these messages, the disk seems to be working fine. I've tried different termination settings on the disk, but nothing has helped. There is a terminator on the scsi cable, and I did not change it. Any ideas? Thanks, Bill

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new mandrake
by Brad Noyes March 24, 2002

March 24, 2002

Hi all, i installed the latest mandrake a earlier this week. When i boot the system into linux i get this grphical screen showing the progress of the boot. Does anyone know how to get rid of that? I find it to be kind of annoying, and want my regular console. Thanks, --brad

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/dev permissions & ownership
by Bill Mills-Curran March 24, 2002

March 24, 2002

I just discovered that something has caused many device files (many of them audio) have ended up with the wrong ownership/permission. (My daughter's account had ownership.) I fixed some, but I have no idea what's the right permissions. Is there some way I can check the permissions? Ideally, there would be a script that would report which device files are not set to the default. (I've changed some, like the cdrom and floppy, intentionally.) TIA, Bill

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wanted: inexpensive server
by Michelle Vadeboncoeur March 24, 2002

March 24, 2002

A small cash-strapped startup just had their email/web/etc. server die on them (hardware issue), and is looking for an inexpensive replacement. If you either have an older server kicking around that you'd like to pass along, or if you can point me to somewhere (like an equipment sale) that may have a box that'll fit the bill, I'd love to hear about it. (We're hoping for something less expensive (or better equipped for the same price) than the new $3000 box that we've been quoted.) Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. :) The main requirements that I was given for a replacement is: dual power supplies 6 drive bays PC-based (Intel/AMD and the like) Plusses: larger amount of hard drive space (the biggest plus) rack-mount Compaq better processor or memory SCSI hot-swappable drives The box will eventually be running Windows 2000 Server and Exchange (but the box that died was a Pentium (something) @200MHz and managed ok (SMALL startup company), so processor speed/memory isn't a major issue). The box will preferrably be running RAID5. As it's a W2k networked site, there's probably going to be a bunch of emailed Office files, so a large amount of HD space is what we're going for. If you need any more information about our needs, feel free to email me. If you don't quite know if the system that you have will work out for us, let me know anyways and I can pass the info along to our main IT guy. Again, thanks in advance for any pointers you can send! -- --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/

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Sharp's Linux PDA
by Stephen C. Daukas March 22, 2002

March 22, 2002

I hear it runs "embedix", some embedded version of Linux... Anyone have any particulars on this unit, roomers, hearsay, etc.? Steve

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System for sale
by John Stoffel March 22, 2002

March 22, 2002

Guys, One of my co-workers is trying to sell of a system, anyone interested? Here's the specs, send email to 'gc22(a)lucent.com' if you want to discuss it. For Sale: AMD Athlon 900MHz CPU Asus A7V Motherboard 256MB (133MHz) SDRAM 30GB ATA-100 HDD 50x CD-ROM Matrox Millennium G450 Dual-Head Video (16MB) 3Com 3C905B-TX 10/100 Mbps NIC SoundBlaster Live! Audio John

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context menu in mozilla 0.9.9
by Baris Hasdemir March 21, 2002

March 21, 2002

hi, I want to put a URL link to one of the context menus in Mozilla. Do you think it is possible? Do you think I have to deal with the source of the program?(which I don't think I can) Or is there another way to alter the values in the context menus? For example, I will highlight a word on a web page, and when right click on it, mozilla will query dict.org with my highlighted word, on a new browser window. I hope my question is clear. thanks, baris

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Charter and MSN....
by Wesley Allen March 21, 2002

March 21, 2002

Ummm, To say that I was pissed off would be putting it mildly. In the fall, Charter announced that they were beginning a "partnership" with MSN. Fine; but I realized that this meant that Charter would be trying to get all their subscribers on to .net. I don't want passport, I don't want .net. I wrote to Charter, calmly voicing my concerns and recieved an e-mail that NO CHARTER SUBSCRIBER WOULD BE SIGNED UP FOR A MSN PASSPORT WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT. Well, imagine my surprise this weekend when I recived a "congratulations" message for "deciding" to sign-up for passport! ?!@#!!!@ And who did it to me? Charter Communications....I wrote to Charter to get me out of passport ASAP. If they refuse, how's everyone feel about dsl? Wes

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VMS & CLD's -- a blast from the past
by Bill Mills-Curran March 20, 2002

March 20, 2002

Many moons ago, I spent my callow youth as a VMS geek and was fairly capable for a mechanical engineer. I got around the Command Language Definition (CLD) compiler (I can't remember the name of the compiler) and learned to appreciate it's flexibility and power. UNIX/linux, etc. has nothing (that I've seen) that even comes close. The reason I bring this up is that a friend of mine has written a spec for an ambitious command line interpreter that has a bit of the flavor of the VMS CLD's. This has led me to wonder if anyone has seen a port of anything like the VMS CLD language to UNIX/linux. I know that the syntax would have to be different because the VMS option "/" would interfere with the *nix directory syntax. Anyone have any suggestions? And yes, I do remember punch cards, keypunches, paper tape, disk drives as big as washing machines, etc. TIA, Bill

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Looking for Linux Sublaptop
by desdinova＠soupforare.net March 20, 2002

March 20, 2002

Hi all! I know this is probably an odd question to ask the list, but I was wondering if anyone has a (relatively) small laptop they'd like to sell? I'm primarily interested in the Libretto 'CT's, Mitsu Amitys, and Sony Picturebooks. I'd *love* to find a Thinkpad 235, but considering they were never sold here (well, sold here, repackaged, as the Ricoh Magio), I'm not keeping my hopes up. Any help is appreciated, Thanks, James KB1FJQ AIM: Sailor225 | yahoo: bond225

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Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....
by Thomas Carey March 20, 2002

March 20, 2002

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Outbound email broken
by sgaede＠attbi.com March 20, 2002

March 20, 2002

Folks, I have an account on AT&T Broadband, and for some reason, my outbound email seems to be broken. I can send email from KDEMail to myself and I get the mail back promptly, but any email sent to a mailing list seems to go into a black hole. I'm sending this from the web-based client at ATTBI.com, so I'm pretty sure this one's going to make it. Can anyone suggest anything I can do to make sure the mail makes it to the other end? Is getting a confirmation receipt the only choice? Thanks, Skip P.S. Additional info: I'm running Mandrake 8.1, with InteractiveBastille for setting up the firewall. I have a private LAN behind the firewall, so it's probably because I didn't answer one of the questions correctly while setting up the firewall. Do I need to enable inbound SMTP connections? I don't think so. (I have a registered IP name, but not a static IP address.)

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RE: [Wlug] RE: [WPILA-Discuss] Gentoo Linux Distro
by Keller, Tim March 19, 2002

March 19, 2002

I think it would be cool if redhat during the install had an option for "optimized for your architecture". In choosing this option, It would run either run a test suite and find the best settings for your machine, or it would have a bunch of custom configs to choose from like "586/586MMX/Athlon/686/etc". It would then spend about a day hand compiling every package for your box and then installing it. Yeah it would be hilariously slow, but you'd end up with a really optimized box. The only danger I could see would be if you find that certain optimizations corrupted things (like gcc/glibc) etc. On a side note, you could have an optimize script that ran post install that you'd just say something like "optimize --all --no=kernel --mode=586MMX ftp://jungle.unc.edu/blah/blah/redhat" or /mnt/cdrom and it would go off, grab the SRPMS and systematically make your machine fully 586MMX optimized, skipping the kernel. Though I'm thinking you'd probably want some order to the way it did it. I would think that you'd want to upgrade gcc and glibc first, since they'll speed things up. Just ideas... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Frank Sweetser [mailto:fs@WPI.EDU] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 18:54 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] RE: [WPILA-Discuss] Gentoo Linux Distro On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 05:35:26PM -0500, Josh Huber wrote: > Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> writes: > > > Someone please tell me if I'm wrong, because that seems like a > > pretty hackish way to do things. > > Yeah, you're wrong. Please read what I posted, especially: > > "By default, after installing this package, the compilers will behave > normally. However, if the environment variable DEBIAN_BUILDARCH=pentium > is set, they will enter pentium optimized compile mode." Okay, that's not nearly so bad. I still prefer the rpm way, but that's a reasonable solution as well =) -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 18 Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | When I have a kid, I want to buy one of those strollers for twins. Then put the kid in and run around, looking frantic. -- Stephen Wright _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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PowerPC board
by Norm Legare March 19, 2002

March 19, 2002

Hello, Does anyone know where to obtain PowerPC-type development boards. Preferably at hobbyist prices. I am interested in porting Linux to it. Thanks in advance, Norm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

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fyi - slightly OT
by jeff March 19, 2002

March 19, 2002

man, times are tough...money's hard... was wondering if any o' you cats know anyone who's hiring. i'm you're all purpose desktop support guy...and yes, i really do like helping end users. mad skillz: installing (name it), some dns, some email, html, javascript, php...blah blah you guys have always been cool and will continue to be i've been out of a job and bummed for like 3 months now...no keyboards or call tickets or programming or teaching or linux classes or anything for me :-( except what i boogie with at home! :-) thanks much -jeff debian freak lover of the RUBY language tech instructor (part-time...and i mean VERY part-time) very stressed/burnt out tecchie who just wants to have fun

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Gentoo Linux Distro
by Chuck Haines March 18, 2002

March 18, 2002

I figured since I hadn't seen this on the list I'd post it. I recently (and by recent I mean 2 - 3 months) re-installed Linux on my computer. I was a very satisfied Slack8 user but I wanted something more. For one, I wanted a package manager. So I thought I might dabble into Debian (seeing how that is supposedly the premiere distro). But one problem existed, Debian still used binaries. I wanted everything compiled from source so it was optimized for my system (yes, I am a geek and very proud of it). So I went searching for my distro. I searched and searched and just when I thought I wasn't going to find it, I found a distro called Sorcerer linux. WOW, I thought to myself, this does what I wanted. So I downloaded and installed it. I still hate it to this day. So then I continued my search and stubbled upon Gentoo linux on Slashdot. After being disappointed with Sorcerer, I wasn't expecting much, but little to my knowledge this distro would turn out the be the best distro I've ever tried (and I've tried close to 100 distro's of both unix and linux flavor). So I begin my install of Gentoo. Gentoo is still in late beta stages (the 1.0 release is scheduled for mid to late this month). The install was a little rocky, but unlike most linux distro's you can find the authors on their irc channel on opennetworks and they are a tremendous help. I have yet to have a problem that someone in that channel wasn't able to fix. Not to mention, some of the authors went here to WPI as they commented when they saw I was from WPI. This distro has it all. It has an amazing package management system which is simple to use and VERY powerful. Plus is compiles everything from source which means that your system is 100% optimized for your system (and yes it evern recompiles the gcc and stuff so that it is optimized), although you can now use bninaries optimized for i586. Not to mention you compile the kernel at install time so there is no more "stock" kernel business. You can get to business right away. Also, gentoo will only install what you want, making this as small or large of a system as you wish. IMHO, this is the best distro on the "market" today. I have even begun some devlopment for it. Just thought I'd share some thoughts on the newest distro of my liking. If anyone is interested, their website is, http://www.gentoo.org. They can also be found on irc at us.openprojects.net, channel #gentoo. I'm in the channel a lot so look for termleech or termr00t. Thoughts, comments, and flames are welcome. ---------------------- | Chuck Haines | | GDC Webmaster | | chaines(a)wpi.edu | | AOL IM: CyberGrex | ----------------------

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