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Gentoo Linux Distro
by Chuck Haines 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

I figured since I hadn't seen this on the list I'd post it. I recently (and by recent I mean 2 - 3 months) re-installed Linux on my computer. I was a very satisfied Slack8 user but I wanted something more. For one, I wanted a package manager. So I thought I might dabble into Debian (seeing how that is supposedly the premiere distro). But one problem existed, Debian still used binaries. I wanted everything compiled from source so it was optimized for my system (yes, I am a geek and very proud of it). So I went searching for my distro. I searched and searched and just when I thought I wasn't going to find it, I found a distro called Sorcerer linux. WOW, I thought to myself, this does what I wanted. So I downloaded and installed it. I still hate it to this day. So then I continued my search and stubbled upon Gentoo linux on Slashdot. After being disappointed with Sorcerer, I wasn't expecting much, but little to my knowledge this distro would turn out the be the best distro I've ever tried (and I've tried close to 100 distro's of both unix and linux flavor). So I begin my install of Gentoo. Gentoo is still in late beta stages (the 1.0 release is scheduled for mid to late this month). The install was a little rocky, but unlike most linux distro's you can find the authors on their irc channel on opennetworks and they are a tremendous help. I have yet to have a problem that someone in that channel wasn't able to fix. Not to mention, some of the authors went here to WPI as they commented when they saw I was from WPI. This distro has it all. It has an amazing package management system which is simple to use and VERY powerful. Plus is compiles everything from source which means that your system is 100% optimized for your system (and yes it evern recompiles the gcc and stuff so that it is optimized), although you can now use bninaries optimized for i586. Not to mention you compile the kernel at install time so there is no more "stock" kernel business. You can get to business right away. Also, gentoo will only install what you want, making this as small or large of a system as you wish. IMHO, this is the best distro on the "market" today. I have even begun some devlopment for it. Just thought I'd share some thoughts on the newest distro of my liking. If anyone is interested, their website is, http://www.gentoo.org. They can also be found on irc at us.openprojects.net, channel #gentoo. I'm in the channel a lot so look for termleech or termr00t. Thoughts, comments, and flames are welcome. ---------------------- | Chuck Haines | | GDC Webmaster | | chaines(a)wpi.edu | | AOL IM: CyberGrex | ----------------------

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Re: PPC board
by Norm Legare 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

Yes, Linux is already ported to PowerPC. I am interested in doing the same port for my benefit. Norm --- wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. PowerPC board (Norm Legare) > 2. Re: PowerPC board (Charles R. Anderson) > 3. dchp timeout (Wesley Allen) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:38:04 -0800 (PST) > From: Norm Legare <normlegare(a)yahoo.com> > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] PowerPC board > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Hello, > > Does anyone know where to obtain PowerPC-type > development boards. Preferably at hobbyist > prices. I am interested in porting Linux to > it. > > Thanks in advance, > Norm > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage > http://sports.yahoo.com/ > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:42:01 -0500 > From: "Charles R. Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > To: wlug(a)wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] PowerPC board > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Not sure, but isn't Linux already ported to PowerPC? > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 05:38:04PM -0800, Norm > Legare wrote: > normlegare> I am interested in porting Linux to it. > > -- > Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / > http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ > PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 > Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 > A0F9 49BB 5886 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "Wesley Allen" <wallen(a)charter.net> > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:55:52 -0500 > Subject: [Wlug] dchp timeout > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Hi all, the Mandrake default for the dhcp timeout is > VERY > long. I'm trying some documentation about how to > change > the default. Which file is it keep in. somewhere > in the > init files? > > Thanks for any help. > Wes > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug > Digest_______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

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dchp timeout
by Wesley Allen 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

Hi all, the Mandrake default for the dhcp timeout is VERY long. I'm trying some documentation about how to change the default. Which file is it keep in. somewhere in the init files? Thanks for any help. Wes

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openoffice spellcheck
by Wesley Allen 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

Hi, I was wondering if anyone else has used openoffice and had problems with it's spellcheck. It's gotten a bit better, but still doesn't recognize contractions. I've been trying to find info on their site, but man is that project a beast! You can't find anything and their "issuezilla" is a pain in the rear for quick searches. This is one area where Kword really seems to "work" better, even if I have to add a bunch of words to the dictionary...Any reflections/work-arounds? I'm always trying to get people to not shell-out the $$$ for MS Office, and OpenOffice/StarOffice is a really great alternative at this point. I can't wait for Koffice to get there as well (I just wish I could contribute). Wes

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RE: [Wlug] Mozilla
by Keller, Tim 16 Mar '02

16 Mar '02

The solution to this is to start mozilla as root, have it download and install the plugin, close the browser and then start it up as a normal user and presto java works. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@ma.ultranet.com] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 17:39 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Mozilla When I got home last night, I tried Mozilla again, and now I remember why I stopped using it. I had trouble trying to download the java plugin when I wanted to get into a chat room. After another failed attempt to download it with the browser, I tried gftp and got the file, jre131i.xpi but I have no idea what do do with it. There weren't any readme files nearby at the ftp site. Any ideas or suggestions are welcome. Thanks. Greg _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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printer server on router
by Baris Hasdemir 16 Mar '02

16 Mar '02

hi all, I am trying to configure cups 1.1.14 on slackware 8 to print on a printer connected to the router(siemens speedstream 2614). Unfortunately, I couldn't manage to print even a garbage. what should I use? ipp:// or socket:// or lpd:// or what? and how? device options on cups: -------------------------- AppSocket/HP JetDirect Internet Printing Protocol(http) Internet Printing Protocol(ipp) LPD/LPR Host or Printer Parallel Port Serial Port#1 to #32 device url options ise sunlar: ---------------------------------- Examples: file:/path/to/filename.prn http://hostname:631/ipp/ http://hostname:631/ipp/port1 ipp://hostname/ipp/ ipp://hostname/ipp/port1 lpd://hostname/queue socket://hostname socket://hostname:9100 a port scan on the router produces Port State Service 80/tcp open http 88/tcp open kerberos-sec 515/tcp open printer any help perfectly welcome thanks, baris

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Re: [Wlug] Mozilla
by Gregory Avedissian 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

Still no luck. I tried installing as root, first by logging as su and calling up mozilla from command line, and then again (when that didn't work) by backing out of X and starting over as root, calling mozilla from the menu. I've tried running SuSEconfig and tried re-booting, but it doesn't make a difference. I'm not even sure if I really downloaded the file with the browser - both times I did it, I walked away while it was downloading, and when I came back, the browser was gone. Let me take that back - I have four copies of jre131i.xpi in /tmp. Would it make sense to repeat Charles' procedure under /opt/mozilla/plugins? There aren't any jre* files there or under /root/.mozilla, and not even a plugins directory in the latter. I'm guessing that the files downloaded but didn't install. Thanks. Greg On Friday 15 March 2002 08:16, you wrote: > The solution to this is to start mozilla as root, have it download and > install the plugin, close the browser and then start it up as a normal user > and presto java works. > > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@ma.ultranet.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 17:39 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Mozilla > > > > When I got home last night, I tried Mozilla again, and now I remember why I > stopped using it. I had trouble trying to download the java plugin when I > wanted to get into a chat room. > > After another failed attempt to download it with the browser, I tried gftp > and got the file, jre131i.xpi but I have no idea what do do with it. There > weren't any readme files nearby at the ftp site. Any ideas or suggestions > are > welcome. Thanks. > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Mozilla
by Gregory Avedissian 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

When I got home last night, I tried Mozilla again, and now I remember why I stopped using it. I had trouble trying to download the java plugin when I wanted to get into a chat room. After another failed attempt to download it with the browser, I tried gftp and got the file, jre131i.xpi but I have no idea what do do with it. There weren't any readme files nearby at the ftp site. Any ideas or suggestions are welcome. Thanks. Greg

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Job opportunity
by Andy Stewart 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

HI gang, I used to post this type of thing on the WWWBoard part of our website, but that part of the website no longer functions. Please delete if uninterested in a possible job opportunity. I received e-mail from a guy looking for somebody with perl, html, linux (specifically redhat), and apache experience for website development (similar to LLBean's website). If you are interested, contact me directly and I'll forward to you the contact info. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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pop3 server?
by David Lee Ludwig 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

I'm trying to pick a pop3 server, however I am having a tough time doing such. A few notes: * The pop3 server will, for the time being, mount all maildirs via NFS. Similarly, all passwords are retrieved via NIS+. * Debian/woody packages would be nice, but not a requirement. Any thoughts? -- David Ludwig | "The Linux philosophy is laugh in the face of davidl<at>wpi.edu | danger. Oops. Wrong One. 'Do it yourself.' http://www.oflove.com | That's it." - Linus Torvalds

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docs / latex /?
by Bill Mills-Curran 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

I need to generate some documents that look decent on the web and also print well. Some of the documents are forms for people to fill in, and, for the most part, the people are pretty unsophisticated. They may even just print the form and fill it in by hand. Some years ago, I was a heavy Latex user, but it's been a while... I've heard rumors that it now has a WYSIWYG interface. Is this true? At any rate, I'm looking for recommendations of something that can produce decent html (most word processors generate abysmal html) and decent printable stuff. (It would be very cool if I could produce the pdf "fill in the blanks" document.) Right now, I'm painfully generating the html in xemacs (very clean html) and then postscript and non-editable pdf from that. I've heard that docbook is good, but that it has a high learning curve. Suggestions? TIA, Bill

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I'm possessed -- sound stuff
by Bill Mills-Curran 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

This is very weird... My linux box has just started making sounds -- stuff like little sound card samples. It has done about 6 sounds in the past 30 minutes. The only action I have taken since logging in this morning is to look at some web pages. I've "finger-ed" and "last-ed", but there is no evidence of co-workers getting cute with me. I did see one thing in the system log: Mar 13 08:13:21 pent584 kernel: ad1816: Analog Devices AD1816A detected Mar 13 08:13:21 pent584 kernel: ad1816: ISAPnP reports 'Analog Devices AD1816A' at i/o 0x500, irq 5, dma 1, 3 Mar 13 08:13:21 pent584 kernel: ad1816: AD1816 sounddriver Copyright (C) 1998 by Thorsten Knabe Mar 13 08:13:21 pent584 kernel: ad1816: io=0x500, irq=5, dma=1, dma2=3, clockfre q=33000, options=0 isadmabug=0 Mar 13 08:13:21 pent584 modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0- 3 Mar 13 08:38:25 pent584 kernel: ad1816: Analog Devices AD1816A detected Mar 13 08:38:25 pent584 kernel: ad1816: ISAPnP reports 'Analog Devices AD1816A' at i/o 0x500, irq 5, dma 1, 3 Mar 13 08:38:25 pent584 kernel: ad1816: AD1816 sounddriver Copyright (C) 1998 by Thorsten Knabe Mar 13 08:38:25 pent584 kernel: ad1816: io=0x500, irq=5, dma=1, dma2=3, clockfre q=33000, options=0 isadmabug=0 Mar 13 08:38:25 pent584 modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0- 3 These messages appear only one other time in my system logs. Oh, one other thing... I did mount an NT share on my box yesterday. (I don't suspect this, but might as well tell everything.) Any ideas? Thanks, Bill

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Re: Wlug digest, Vol 1 #267 - 4 msgs
by Pierce C. Barnard 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

At 12:01 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Question (Pierce C. Barnard) > 2. Re: Question (Andy Stewart) > 3. Re: Chart generation tools (John Stoffel) > 4. Re: Chart generation tools (Charles R. Anderson) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 21:09:58 -0500 >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >From: "Pierce C. Barnard" <pcbarnard(a)earthlink.net> >Subject: [Wlug] Question >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Hi, I recently purchased SuSE V7.3 and when I shut it down, it hangs while >shutting down all of the system processes. How can I fix this problem with >the shut down proceedure? > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >charset="iso-8859-1" >From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> >Organization: Worcester Linux Users' Group >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Question >Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 21:34:17 -0500 >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >On Sunday 10 March 2002 09:09 pm, you wrote: > > Hi, I recently purchased SuSE V7.3 and when I shut it down, it hangs > > while shutting down all of the system processes. How can I fix this > > problem with the shut down proceedure? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >Hi Pierce, > >I am a SuSE user. I would like to help, but I believe that I need more >information in order to give you an accurate answer. > >Exactly which command are you using to shutdown the system? Can you send >along a snippet of the last few lines of output on the terminal before it >hangs? Does it always hang in the same place? With this type of >information, I believe that the problem can be diagnosed. > >See ya later, > >Andy > >-- >Andy Stewart >Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA, USA >http://www.wlug.org Hello Andy, the error occurs when I log out of KDE. Then at the Linux desktop login window, I select shutdown, and then SuSE is shutting down, it hangs at the point where the drive shares are umounted and then inet says that the system will be halted immediately. It is at this point that SuSE will say that runtime level 0 has been reached, that it has stopped completely. At this point, the system is still running and I can not turn it off, except by turning the power off. What do you think is causing this to happen? and I will be at the WLUG meeting on this Wednesday. Thank you.

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REMINDER: Upcoming WLUG meeting
by Andy Stewart 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

Hi everybody, This is a friendly reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting to be held on Wednesday, March 13th at 7 PM. Please note: the meeting room is DIFFERENT this month. We will be located in Perreault Hall in Fuller Labs (the same place as the January meeting). Directions can be found on the WLUG website. There is an opening for a speaker at this meeting, so if you have something you'd like to present to the group, bring it along and I'll turn over the floor to you. I received a couple of raffle items from the folks at http://theKompany.com. I will have available a copy of Quanta Gold as well as a copy of Power Plant. You can read more about these software packages at theKompany's website. I was told by a company representative that if we wanted to arrange a group purchase of software that we would receive a discount. Please contact me directly if this is of interest to you. After the meeting, we'll make our monthly pilgrimage to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beers, and more Linux talk. See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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Chart generation tools
by John Stoffel 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

Guys, Does anyone have any recommendations for data plotting or charting tools under linux/solaris? I'm aware of gnuplot, xmgr (ACE/gr), grace (ACE/gr descendant) but none of them is really what I want. I'm trying to take a bunch of data from my backups and graph the output nicely. I'd like to have both: - stacked plots (show the totals, with breakdowns by groups). - pie charts for individual days - line charts for trend analysis And of course all of this should be easy to do from the Unix command line and/or control/data files. I currently have a script which uses gnuplot to graph the data, but it's not the nicest. I'm looking into using 'grace', but it's not well documented and it's really pushed more to scientific visualization. I'll try to put what I have up on the web at some point, so you can see what I'm trying to do... but if you've ever used Legato Networker, I've got a tool called 'nss' (http://jfs.ecotarium.org/sources/nss) which generates reports on backups. I'm now trying to take the logged data from that and provide some nice trend analysis graphs as well. Thanks, John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-399-0479

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Question
by Pierce C. Barnard 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

Hi, I recently purchased SuSE V7.3 and when I shut it down, it hangs while shutting down all of the system processes. How can I fix this problem with the shut down proceedure?

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itch to scratch...
by Keller, Tim 09 Mar '02

09 Mar '02

I'd like to figure out a way to "assassinate" processes that get stuck in the "waiting IO" state when I know there's no way they'll ever come out of that state. I just had to reboot my linux workstation to resolve such an issue. I had an file system containing mp3's mounted via smbfs. Unknown to me, this connection had become stale, so when I started up xmms, it hung and immediately went into the dreaded "waiting IO" state, while holding onto my sound hardware. I did a df and had that stuck as well, along with the bash shell I spawned it from. I think I'd like to write a "SIGMURDER" signal that would tell the kernel to just through its tables and forcibly unallocate all the resources a particular process is holding, close all its handles, etc. So before I even contemplate this endeavor, is their away to already do this? Thanks, Tim.

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RE: [Wlug] itch to scratch...
by Evans, Robert 08 Mar '02

08 Mar '02

Potential difficulties with this idea: - There may be insufficient information about state of the process for the kernel to free up some resources. It might require code in drivers to assist. - Locks or mutexes held by the process should not be freed unless the resource the lock is protecting is in a consistent state. This gets very application specific. Robert N. Evans Software Engineer S T R A T U S T E C H N O L O G I E S 111 Powdermill Road, Maynard, MA 01754-3409 U.S.A. * Tel. 978-461-7680 / * Fax. 978-461-3610 robert.evans(a)stratus.com Amateur Radio Call: N1BE -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 9:39 AM To: 'wlug(a)wlug.org' Subject: [Wlug] itch to scratch... I'd like to figure out a way to "assassinate" processes that get stuck in the "waiting IO" state when I know there's no way they'll ever come out of that state. I just had to reboot my linux workstation to resolve such an issue. I had an file system containing mp3's mounted via smbfs. Unknown to me, this connection had become stale, so when I started up xmms, it hung and immediately went into the dreaded "waiting IO" state, while holding onto my sound hardware. I did a df and had that stuck as well, along with the bash shell I spawned it from. I think I'd like to write a "SIGMURDER" signal that would tell the kernel to just through its tables and forcibly unallocate all the resources a particular process is holding, close all its handles, etc. So before I even contemplate this endeavor, is their away to already do this? Thanks, Tim. _______________________________________________

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Re: [Wlug] can't connect with ftp, says connection time out
by Peter Gutowski 08 Mar '02

08 Mar '02

Bob, You haven't given us much to go on, but here's a shot: I'm assuming that this is the first time you've tried this. If so then you might not have configured inetd or xinetd to start the the ftp service when it detects an incoming ftp connection. My system ( Redhat 7.1 Intel) uses xinetd and the config files are in the directory /etc/xinetd; there's one for each service. Try to identify the file that corresponds to your ftp service. Again mine is named 'wu-ftpd' and it's a short file. Open the file with a text editor and look for a line that says 'disable = yes' and change the yes to a no, or delete the line completely. This done, you'll need to restart xinetd (or inetd). On my system I'd enter the command /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart to accomplish this. Perhaps that'll get you over the hump on this one. But there are other possibilities as well. If this doesn't work, please take a look at your log files, they can provide you (and us!) with valuable clues as to the nature of the problem. It's not uncommon for posters to include short, pertinent portions of a log file for us to see. Another strong possibility is that a packet filter is coming into play and that you incoming ftp request is just being ignored. That's handled by 'ipchains' or 'iptables' and is typically setup at startup time. It that appears to be the case, read the init.d script and see where it's looking for its configuration file, then check *that* file for any special handling of 'ftp' ports 21 and 20. The strongest likelyhood is that both of the above things need to be done. But, be warned about FTP in general: unless you're using it off the internet, historically it's been the source of many breakins and cannot be considered secure by nomal users as login and password are passed in cleartext over the internet. Consider using ssh and scp (components of OpenSSH) instead -- there's client software available for non-linux OSs too. -Peter On 3/7/2002 11:23 PM, babine <babinefamily(a)charter.net> wrote: > >When I try to ftp to my server, i get a connection time out. Why >is it happening? > > Bob

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can't connect with ftp, says connection time out
by babine 08 Mar '02

08 Mar '02

When I try to ftp to my server, i get a connection time out. Why is it happening? Bob

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FYI: Upcoming speakers at Softpro in Burlington
by Andy Stewart 08 Mar '02

08 Mar '02

Several O'Reilly authors--as well as Tim O'Reilly--will be speaking in the near future at Softpro Books in Burlington (details below). If you know of ways we could spread the word about these upcoming events, please let me know at marsee(a)oreilly.com. Books will be discounted during the event, and there will be door prizes. Open Invitation to SIGS and User Groups: Softpro is happy to host your group. They have space to accomodate up to 30 people in Burlington and up to 12 in Marlborough. Reserve a time by writing to events(a)softpro.com. Softpro Events: Tim O'Reilly on Emerging Tech Trends Wednesday, March 13--6:30 PM Tim will talk about emerging tech trends that O'Reilly & Associates is following, including bioinformatics, community wireless, web services, and the evolution of what he's calling "the internet operating system." For more information on Tim O'Reilly see: http://www.oreilly.com/oreilly/tim_bio.html Jesse Liberty on ASP v. ASP.NET Wednesday, March 20--6:30 PM The principal difference between ASP.NET and ASP is that the new programming model is more object-oriented and more event-driven. This will be illustrated by extracting records from a database and filling a DataGrid in a web form, coloring some records based on their content, and responding to the ItemDataBound event. Along the way Jesse will also explain how to create code-behind pages for web forms, how to retrieve data from a database and how to populate the DataGrid. Jesse Liberty is the author of "Programming ASP.NET" and "Programming C#" among others. To see more information on Jesse Liberty or the books he has written for O'Reilly, visit: http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/catalog/view/au/239?x-t=book.view Erik Ray on Perl and XML Wednesday, April 3--6:30-8:00 PM. Erik Ray is coauthor of the upcoming book "Perl & XML" (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlxml/) XML is a text-based markup language that has taken the programming world by storm. More powerful than HTML yet less demanding than SGML, XML has proven itself to be flexible and resilient. XML is the perfect tool for formatting documents with even the smallest bit of complexity, from Web pages to legal contracts to books. However, XML has also proven itself to be indispensable for organizing and conveying other sorts of data as well, thus its central role in web services like SOAP and XML-RPC. As the Perl programming language was tailor-made for manipulating text, few people have disputed the fact that Perl and XML are perfectly suited for one another. The only question has been what's the best way to do it. Noel Rappin on Jython Wednesday, April 24--6:30-8:00 PM. Noel Rappin is coauthor of "Jython Essentials" (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/jythoness/) Jython is an implementation of the Python programming language written in Java, allowing Python programs to integrate seamlessly with any Java code. The secret to Jython's popularity lies in the combination of Java's libraries and tools with Python's rapid development capabilities. "Jython Essentials" provides a solid introduction to the language, numerous examples of Jython/Java interaction, and valuable reference material on modules and libraries of use to Jython programmers. All events to take place at: Softpro Books 112 Mall Road Burlington MA 01803-5300 Phone: (781) 273-2919 http://www.softpro.com/events.html --Marsee Henon %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Marsee Henon O'Reilly & Associates 1005 Gravenstein Highway North Sebastopol, CA 95472 Phone 707-827-7103 (Direct) 707-829-0515, 800-998-9938 Fax 707-829-0104 marsee(a)oreilly.com http://ug.oreilly.com/ http://www.oreilly.com/ %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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nvidia with X
by Brad Noyes 08 Mar '02

08 Mar '02

Hi all i've been struggling with trying to get nvidia's drivers to work for my TNT PCI card. The install goes fine, but when i startx, i only get a blank screen. Looking at the Log, i don't see any fatal errors. When i kill X (from a remote machine using ssh) my screen displays a few dozen vertical lines, and no console. I'm not very fluent in X, perhaps someone can spot an error in the config, or log file. Thanks, --brad

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Re: [Wlug] coredump file
by luke macneil 06 Mar '02

06 Mar '02

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pc anywhere
by bryon3245＠netzero.com 06 Mar '02

06 Mar '02

does any one know of a program for linux that is like the windows program pc anywhere. Where you can contral a remote computer just like it was in front of you. Thanks B.B. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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OpenOffice Macros
by Wesley Allen 05 Mar '02

05 Mar '02

Hi everyone, I'm just sitting here doing some work and realized something. I should be able to reduce my keystrokes a LOT by writing some macros that would allow me to "quick change" my fonts in OpenOffice. I'm doing some research right now, but I never learned VB (which, I assume, OpenOfficeBasic is a derrivitave of) so I'm starting cold. Has anyone out there written some macros for OpenOffice? All I need is the ability to switch quickly between: English, Greek, and Hebrew. I'm not sure how to start. Like I said, I'm doing the research, but any hints and/or examples you all could share would be WONDERFUL. Thanks everyone, Wes

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