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new mandrake
by Brad Noyes 24 Mar '02

24 Mar '02

Hi all, i installed the latest mandrake a earlier this week. When i boot the system into linux i get this grphical screen showing the progress of the boot. Does anyone know how to get rid of that? I find it to be kind of annoying, and want my regular console. Thanks, --brad

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/dev permissions & ownership
by Bill Mills-Curran 24 Mar '02

24 Mar '02

I just discovered that something has caused many device files (many of them audio) have ended up with the wrong ownership/permission. (My daughter's account had ownership.) I fixed some, but I have no idea what's the right permissions. Is there some way I can check the permissions? Ideally, there would be a script that would report which device files are not set to the default. (I've changed some, like the cdrom and floppy, intentionally.) TIA, Bill

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wanted: inexpensive server
by Michelle Vadeboncoeur 24 Mar '02

24 Mar '02

A small cash-strapped startup just had their email/web/etc. server die on them (hardware issue), and is looking for an inexpensive replacement. If you either have an older server kicking around that you'd like to pass along, or if you can point me to somewhere (like an equipment sale) that may have a box that'll fit the bill, I'd love to hear about it. (We're hoping for something less expensive (or better equipped for the same price) than the new $3000 box that we've been quoted.) Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. :) The main requirements that I was given for a replacement is: dual power supplies 6 drive bays PC-based (Intel/AMD and the like) Plusses: larger amount of hard drive space (the biggest plus) rack-mount Compaq better processor or memory SCSI hot-swappable drives The box will eventually be running Windows 2000 Server and Exchange (but the box that died was a Pentium (something) @200MHz and managed ok (SMALL startup company), so processor speed/memory isn't a major issue). The box will preferrably be running RAID5. As it's a W2k networked site, there's probably going to be a bunch of emailed Office files, so a large amount of HD space is what we're going for. If you need any more information about our needs, feel free to email me. If you don't quite know if the system that you have will work out for us, let me know anyways and I can pass the info along to our main IT guy. Again, thanks in advance for any pointers you can send! -- --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/

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Sharp's Linux PDA
by Stephen C. Daukas 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

I hear it runs "embedix", some embedded version of Linux... Anyone have any particulars on this unit, roomers, hearsay, etc.? Steve

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System for sale
by John Stoffel 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

Guys, One of my co-workers is trying to sell of a system, anyone interested? Here's the specs, send email to 'gc22(a)lucent.com' if you want to discuss it. For Sale: AMD Athlon 900MHz CPU Asus A7V Motherboard 256MB (133MHz) SDRAM 30GB ATA-100 HDD 50x CD-ROM Matrox Millennium G450 Dual-Head Video (16MB) 3Com 3C905B-TX 10/100 Mbps NIC SoundBlaster Live! Audio John

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context menu in mozilla 0.9.9
by Baris Hasdemir 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

hi, I want to put a URL link to one of the context menus in Mozilla. Do you think it is possible? Do you think I have to deal with the source of the program?(which I don't think I can) Or is there another way to alter the values in the context menus? For example, I will highlight a word on a web page, and when right click on it, mozilla will query dict.org with my highlighted word, on a new browser window. I hope my question is clear. thanks, baris

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Charter and MSN....
by Wesley Allen 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

Ummm, To say that I was pissed off would be putting it mildly. In the fall, Charter announced that they were beginning a "partnership" with MSN. Fine; but I realized that this meant that Charter would be trying to get all their subscribers on to .net. I don't want passport, I don't want .net. I wrote to Charter, calmly voicing my concerns and recieved an e-mail that NO CHARTER SUBSCRIBER WOULD BE SIGNED UP FOR A MSN PASSPORT WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT. Well, imagine my surprise this weekend when I recived a "congratulations" message for "deciding" to sign-up for passport! ?!@#!!!@ And who did it to me? Charter Communications....I wrote to Charter to get me out of passport ASAP. If they refuse, how's everyone feel about dsl? Wes

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VMS & CLD's -- a blast from the past
by Bill Mills-Curran 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Many moons ago, I spent my callow youth as a VMS geek and was fairly capable for a mechanical engineer. I got around the Command Language Definition (CLD) compiler (I can't remember the name of the compiler) and learned to appreciate it's flexibility and power. UNIX/linux, etc. has nothing (that I've seen) that even comes close. The reason I bring this up is that a friend of mine has written a spec for an ambitious command line interpreter that has a bit of the flavor of the VMS CLD's. This has led me to wonder if anyone has seen a port of anything like the VMS CLD language to UNIX/linux. I know that the syntax would have to be different because the VMS option "/" would interfere with the *nix directory syntax. Anyone have any suggestions? And yes, I do remember punch cards, keypunches, paper tape, disk drives as big as washing machines, etc. TIA, Bill

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Looking for Linux Sublaptop
by desdinova＠soupforare.net 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Hi all! I know this is probably an odd question to ask the list, but I was wondering if anyone has a (relatively) small laptop they'd like to sell? I'm primarily interested in the Libretto 'CT's, Mitsu Amitys, and Sony Picturebooks. I'd *love* to find a Thinkpad 235, but considering they were never sold here (well, sold here, repackaged, as the Ricoh Magio), I'm not keeping my hopes up. Any help is appreciated, Thanks, James KB1FJQ AIM: Sailor225 | yahoo: bond225

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Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....
by Thomas Carey 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

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Outbound email broken
by sgaede＠attbi.com 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Folks, I have an account on AT&T Broadband, and for some reason, my outbound email seems to be broken. I can send email from KDEMail to myself and I get the mail back promptly, but any email sent to a mailing list seems to go into a black hole. I'm sending this from the web-based client at ATTBI.com, so I'm pretty sure this one's going to make it. Can anyone suggest anything I can do to make sure the mail makes it to the other end? Is getting a confirmation receipt the only choice? Thanks, Skip P.S. Additional info: I'm running Mandrake 8.1, with InteractiveBastille for setting up the firewall. I have a private LAN behind the firewall, so it's probably because I didn't answer one of the questions correctly while setting up the firewall. Do I need to enable inbound SMTP connections? I don't think so. (I have a registered IP name, but not a static IP address.)

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RE: [Wlug] RE: [WPILA-Discuss] Gentoo Linux Distro
by Keller, Tim 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

I think it would be cool if redhat during the install had an option for "optimized for your architecture". In choosing this option, It would run either run a test suite and find the best settings for your machine, or it would have a bunch of custom configs to choose from like "586/586MMX/Athlon/686/etc". It would then spend about a day hand compiling every package for your box and then installing it. Yeah it would be hilariously slow, but you'd end up with a really optimized box. The only danger I could see would be if you find that certain optimizations corrupted things (like gcc/glibc) etc. On a side note, you could have an optimize script that ran post install that you'd just say something like "optimize --all --no=kernel --mode=586MMX ftp://jungle.unc.edu/blah/blah/redhat" or /mnt/cdrom and it would go off, grab the SRPMS and systematically make your machine fully 586MMX optimized, skipping the kernel. Though I'm thinking you'd probably want some order to the way it did it. I would think that you'd want to upgrade gcc and glibc first, since they'll speed things up. Just ideas... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Frank Sweetser [mailto:fs@WPI.EDU] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 18:54 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] RE: [WPILA-Discuss] Gentoo Linux Distro On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 05:35:26PM -0500, Josh Huber wrote: > Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> writes: > > > Someone please tell me if I'm wrong, because that seems like a > > pretty hackish way to do things. > > Yeah, you're wrong. Please read what I posted, especially: > > "By default, after installing this package, the compilers will behave > normally. However, if the environment variable DEBIAN_BUILDARCH=pentium > is set, they will enter pentium optimized compile mode." Okay, that's not nearly so bad. I still prefer the rpm way, but that's a reasonable solution as well =) -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 18 Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | When I have a kid, I want to buy one of those strollers for twins. Then put the kid in and run around, looking frantic. -- Stephen Wright _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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PowerPC board
by Norm Legare 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

Hello, Does anyone know where to obtain PowerPC-type development boards. Preferably at hobbyist prices. I am interested in porting Linux to it. Thanks in advance, Norm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

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fyi - slightly OT
by jeff 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

man, times are tough...money's hard... was wondering if any o' you cats know anyone who's hiring. i'm you're all purpose desktop support guy...and yes, i really do like helping end users. mad skillz: installing (name it), some dns, some email, html, javascript, php...blah blah you guys have always been cool and will continue to be i've been out of a job and bummed for like 3 months now...no keyboards or call tickets or programming or teaching or linux classes or anything for me :-( except what i boogie with at home! :-) thanks much -jeff debian freak lover of the RUBY language tech instructor (part-time...and i mean VERY part-time) very stressed/burnt out tecchie who just wants to have fun

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Gentoo Linux Distro
by Chuck Haines 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

I figured since I hadn't seen this on the list I'd post it. I recently (and by recent I mean 2 - 3 months) re-installed Linux on my computer. I was a very satisfied Slack8 user but I wanted something more. For one, I wanted a package manager. So I thought I might dabble into Debian (seeing how that is supposedly the premiere distro). But one problem existed, Debian still used binaries. I wanted everything compiled from source so it was optimized for my system (yes, I am a geek and very proud of it). So I went searching for my distro. I searched and searched and just when I thought I wasn't going to find it, I found a distro called Sorcerer linux. WOW, I thought to myself, this does what I wanted. So I downloaded and installed it. I still hate it to this day. So then I continued my search and stubbled upon Gentoo linux on Slashdot. After being disappointed with Sorcerer, I wasn't expecting much, but little to my knowledge this distro would turn out the be the best distro I've ever tried (and I've tried close to 100 distro's of both unix and linux flavor). So I begin my install of Gentoo. Gentoo is still in late beta stages (the 1.0 release is scheduled for mid to late this month). The install was a little rocky, but unlike most linux distro's you can find the authors on their irc channel on opennetworks and they are a tremendous help. I have yet to have a problem that someone in that channel wasn't able to fix. Not to mention, some of the authors went here to WPI as they commented when they saw I was from WPI. This distro has it all. It has an amazing package management system which is simple to use and VERY powerful. Plus is compiles everything from source which means that your system is 100% optimized for your system (and yes it evern recompiles the gcc and stuff so that it is optimized), although you can now use bninaries optimized for i586. Not to mention you compile the kernel at install time so there is no more "stock" kernel business. You can get to business right away. Also, gentoo will only install what you want, making this as small or large of a system as you wish. IMHO, this is the best distro on the "market" today. I have even begun some devlopment for it. Just thought I'd share some thoughts on the newest distro of my liking. If anyone is interested, their website is, http://www.gentoo.org. They can also be found on irc at us.openprojects.net, channel #gentoo. I'm in the channel a lot so look for termleech or termr00t. Thoughts, comments, and flames are welcome. ---------------------- | Chuck Haines | | GDC Webmaster | | chaines(a)wpi.edu | | AOL IM: CyberGrex | ----------------------

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Re: PPC board
by Norm Legare 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

Yes, Linux is already ported to PowerPC. I am interested in doing the same port for my benefit. Norm --- wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. PowerPC board (Norm Legare) > 2. Re: PowerPC board (Charles R. Anderson) > 3. dchp timeout (Wesley Allen) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:38:04 -0800 (PST) > From: Norm Legare <normlegare(a)yahoo.com> > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] PowerPC board > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Hello, > > Does anyone know where to obtain PowerPC-type > development boards. Preferably at hobbyist > prices. I am interested in porting Linux to > it. > > Thanks in advance, > Norm > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage > http://sports.yahoo.com/ > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:42:01 -0500 > From: "Charles R. Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > To: wlug(a)wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] PowerPC board > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Not sure, but isn't Linux already ported to PowerPC? > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 05:38:04PM -0800, Norm > Legare wrote: > normlegare> I am interested in porting Linux to it. > > -- > Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / > http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ > PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 > Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 > A0F9 49BB 5886 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "Wesley Allen" <wallen(a)charter.net> > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:55:52 -0500 > Subject: [Wlug] dchp timeout > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Hi all, the Mandrake default for the dhcp timeout is > VERY > long. I'm trying some documentation about how to > change > the default. Which file is it keep in. somewhere > in the > init files? > > Thanks for any help. > Wes > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug > Digest_______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

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dchp timeout
by Wesley Allen 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

Hi all, the Mandrake default for the dhcp timeout is VERY long. I'm trying some documentation about how to change the default. Which file is it keep in. somewhere in the init files? Thanks for any help. Wes

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openoffice spellcheck
by Wesley Allen 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

Hi, I was wondering if anyone else has used openoffice and had problems with it's spellcheck. It's gotten a bit better, but still doesn't recognize contractions. I've been trying to find info on their site, but man is that project a beast! You can't find anything and their "issuezilla" is a pain in the rear for quick searches. This is one area where Kword really seems to "work" better, even if I have to add a bunch of words to the dictionary...Any reflections/work-arounds? I'm always trying to get people to not shell-out the $$$ for MS Office, and OpenOffice/StarOffice is a really great alternative at this point. I can't wait for Koffice to get there as well (I just wish I could contribute). Wes

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RE: [Wlug] Mozilla
by Keller, Tim 16 Mar '02

16 Mar '02

The solution to this is to start mozilla as root, have it download and install the plugin, close the browser and then start it up as a normal user and presto java works. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@ma.ultranet.com] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 17:39 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Mozilla When I got home last night, I tried Mozilla again, and now I remember why I stopped using it. I had trouble trying to download the java plugin when I wanted to get into a chat room. After another failed attempt to download it with the browser, I tried gftp and got the file, jre131i.xpi but I have no idea what do do with it. There weren't any readme files nearby at the ftp site. Any ideas or suggestions are welcome. Thanks. Greg _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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printer server on router
by Baris Hasdemir 16 Mar '02

16 Mar '02

hi all, I am trying to configure cups 1.1.14 on slackware 8 to print on a printer connected to the router(siemens speedstream 2614). Unfortunately, I couldn't manage to print even a garbage. what should I use? ipp:// or socket:// or lpd:// or what? and how? device options on cups: -------------------------- AppSocket/HP JetDirect Internet Printing Protocol(http) Internet Printing Protocol(ipp) LPD/LPR Host or Printer Parallel Port Serial Port#1 to #32 device url options ise sunlar: ---------------------------------- Examples: file:/path/to/filename.prn http://hostname:631/ipp/ http://hostname:631/ipp/port1 ipp://hostname/ipp/ ipp://hostname/ipp/port1 lpd://hostname/queue socket://hostname socket://hostname:9100 a port scan on the router produces Port State Service 80/tcp open http 88/tcp open kerberos-sec 515/tcp open printer any help perfectly welcome thanks, baris

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Re: [Wlug] Mozilla
by Gregory Avedissian 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

Still no luck. I tried installing as root, first by logging as su and calling up mozilla from command line, and then again (when that didn't work) by backing out of X and starting over as root, calling mozilla from the menu. I've tried running SuSEconfig and tried re-booting, but it doesn't make a difference. I'm not even sure if I really downloaded the file with the browser - both times I did it, I walked away while it was downloading, and when I came back, the browser was gone. Let me take that back - I have four copies of jre131i.xpi in /tmp. Would it make sense to repeat Charles' procedure under /opt/mozilla/plugins? There aren't any jre* files there or under /root/.mozilla, and not even a plugins directory in the latter. I'm guessing that the files downloaded but didn't install. Thanks. Greg On Friday 15 March 2002 08:16, you wrote: > The solution to this is to start mozilla as root, have it download and > install the plugin, close the browser and then start it up as a normal user > and presto java works. > > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@ma.ultranet.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 17:39 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Mozilla > > > > When I got home last night, I tried Mozilla again, and now I remember why I > stopped using it. I had trouble trying to download the java plugin when I > wanted to get into a chat room. > > After another failed attempt to download it with the browser, I tried gftp > and got the file, jre131i.xpi but I have no idea what do do with it. There > weren't any readme files nearby at the ftp site. Any ideas or suggestions > are > welcome. Thanks. > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Mozilla
by Gregory Avedissian 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

When I got home last night, I tried Mozilla again, and now I remember why I stopped using it. I had trouble trying to download the java plugin when I wanted to get into a chat room. After another failed attempt to download it with the browser, I tried gftp and got the file, jre131i.xpi but I have no idea what do do with it. There weren't any readme files nearby at the ftp site. Any ideas or suggestions are welcome. Thanks. Greg

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Job opportunity
by Andy Stewart 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

HI gang, I used to post this type of thing on the WWWBoard part of our website, but that part of the website no longer functions. Please delete if uninterested in a possible job opportunity. I received e-mail from a guy looking for somebody with perl, html, linux (specifically redhat), and apache experience for website development (similar to LLBean's website). If you are interested, contact me directly and I'll forward to you the contact info. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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pop3 server?
by David Lee Ludwig 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

I'm trying to pick a pop3 server, however I am having a tough time doing such. A few notes: * The pop3 server will, for the time being, mount all maildirs via NFS. Similarly, all passwords are retrieved via NIS+. * Debian/woody packages would be nice, but not a requirement. Any thoughts? -- David Ludwig | "The Linux philosophy is laugh in the face of davidl<at>wpi.edu | danger. Oops. Wrong One. 'Do it yourself.' http://www.oflove.com | That's it." - Linus Torvalds

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docs / latex /?
by Bill Mills-Curran 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

I need to generate some documents that look decent on the web and also print well. Some of the documents are forms for people to fill in, and, for the most part, the people are pretty unsophisticated. They may even just print the form and fill it in by hand. Some years ago, I was a heavy Latex user, but it's been a while... I've heard rumors that it now has a WYSIWYG interface. Is this true? At any rate, I'm looking for recommendations of something that can produce decent html (most word processors generate abysmal html) and decent printable stuff. (It would be very cool if I could produce the pdf "fill in the blanks" document.) Right now, I'm painfully generating the html in xemacs (very clean html) and then postscript and non-editable pdf from that. I've heard that docbook is good, but that it has a high learning curve. Suggestions? TIA, Bill

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