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Next WLUG Meeting! Oct 15th NOT the 8th.
by Tim Keller 06 Oct '20

06 Oct '20

Hey Everybody, I've decided to push the meeting off to the 8th. This is mainly because the second week of October snuck up on me and because I have conflict that night. Hopefully by then I'll have a little project I've been working on ready to show off. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Ubuntu update question
by THE HAMMER 21 Sep '20

21 Sep '20

Hello everyone. Thank again for all the recent advice. I have one question. I installed Ubuntu (from a 20.04 flash drive I did a while back) and checked the option to download additional software. It was then up and running. I then had updates available. They were installing, and then the computer said a restart was needed. I clicked restart and rather than restart as expected it went to what I think was a grub menu. Ubuntu was highlighted, I hit the enter key. It said "unpacking failed" (forget if before or after) and started up. Everything seems to be fine, but I am sending this email in case if anyone knows if I will have problems. I tried googling "Ubuntu unpacking failed" and se references to initramfs, but can't say if my message said this. It flashed quickly. I'm confused on what I read there anyway. FYI on the bios to make things work I changed: PTT to off Secure Boot Enable to off Changed RAID to AHCHI The machine seems blazing fast compared to the previous one. Materials much more cheaply made, though. Surprised me that there was no Windows CD or label with license number. cheers Ron

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desktop advice update
by THE HAMMER 18 Sep '20

18 Sep '20

First off, thanks to everyone for the great advice. It's rather a long story for another day, but I wound up picking up this model: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-inspiron-3000-desktop-intel-core-i5-10400… [https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/6416/6416004…]<https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-inspiron-3000-desktop-intel-core-i5-10400…> Dell Inspiron 3000 Desktop Intel Core i5-10400 8GB Memory 1TB HDD Ethernet WiFi Bluetooth keyboard and mouse Black i3880-5920BLK-PUS - Best Buy<https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-inspiron-3000-desktop-intel-core-i5-10400…> Shop Dell Inspiron 3000 Desktop Intel Core i5-10400 8GB Memory 1TB HDD Ethernet WiFi Bluetooth keyboard and mouse Black at Best Buy. Find low everyday prices and buy online for delivery or in-store pick-up. Price Match Guarantee. www.bestbuy.com There are way bigger and badder machines out there, this one should still has way more to offer that what is replacing. I have experience distro hopping and before had no worries about installing a linux distro on a pc, but they have always been older machines. I presume that the one will have uefi which is something I have never worked with. I am a bit apprehensive and hope I can figure it all out without major problems. I hope to get this all up and running tonight or over the weekend. Ron

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desktop advice
by THE HAMMER 18 Sep '20

18 Sep '20

I want to consider getting a new desktop computer. Can anyone advise me as to a specific model and place to purchase from? It's been a long time since I've bought new. I would be using it mostly for emails, a few general apts (like music streams and libre office), and a bit of amateur coding. I am not a gamer. If it is a windows machine, I'd like to load on a linux based os Suggestions? Ron

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Mini Debian Conference Online #2
by Dennis Payne 16 Sep '20

16 Sep '20

Debian is running a mini online conference in Nov. It is specifically about gaming. I've offered a talk on Gamerzilla, my open source achievement system for games. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/internet/2020/MiniDebConfOnline2 -- Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com https://social.freegamedev.net/channel/dulsi

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Thanks everybody, last nights virtual meeting was great!
by Tim Keller 13 Sep '20

13 Sep '20

Hey Everybody, The mailing list is working again, thanks Chuck! Last night's meeting was great! It was fun to nerd out with everybody. Unless things drastically change, I suspect we'll be virtual for October as well. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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this is a test
by Chuck Anderson 11 Sep '20

11 Sep '20

This is a test of the WLUG email list. This is only a test. If this had been an actual post, the subject line you just read would have been followed by official news, information, or random Linux blather. This concludes this test of the WLUG list. .

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Administrivia - WLUG Mailing List
by Chuck Anderson 20 Aug '20

20 Aug '20

Sorry everyone. We had more spam problems on the WLUG Mailing List last night, and in the process of trying to remove that user I accidentally removed everyone. I partly blame the poor Admin user interface of Postorius--it has a "Unsubscribe All" button at the top of the Member list even if that list has been filtered and says "List Members (1)" due to the filter. So it is easy to misinterpret "All" as being just the Members that are currently listed due to the filter. I went through a backup of the member list I have from 2018, edited the list based on all the subscription/remove requests since then, and resubscribed everyone who hadn't removed themselves since. I could have missed some email addresses, so I apologize if you have been accidentally resubscribed when you shouldn't have been--feel free to email me directly and I'll fix that. I could have also missed some new subscriptions, so if you know someone who should be subscribed but complains that they are no longer receiving posts, please let them know to resubscribe. I'm not sure if each user's subscription options have been retained, so if you had set no email delivery or digest mode for example, you may have to reconfigure that. Finally, I have configured the mailing list to require moderator approval for new membership requests and posts from all existing members until I know that the member isn't a spammer. Over the next few days I'll be going through the member list and unsetting moderation on "known good" members.

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recent post, Technocopia, hybrid meetings
by Chuck Anderson 20 Aug '20

20 Aug '20

I removed & banned the drive-by-spammer. Here is Technocopia's website for those interested: https://technocopia.org/ I like the idea of Hybrid meetings--some participants remote and some in-person. It's hard to do well, though. Does Technocopia have a videoconferencing setup with an in-room camera/mic system, projector, and PC that could join Jitsi? Maybe we could help them set one up.

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Great News! Technopia is now open to the public!
by Tim Keller 18 Aug '20

18 Aug '20

Hey Gang, I just checked the website and Technopia is now open to the public. So... not this meeting, but hopefully the next one we can have in person! Please let me know how you feel about physical meetings. I'm amenable to waiting another month or two if people are still weary. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder: WLUG meeting tonight
by Tim Keller 13 Aug '20

13 Aug '20

We've got a meeting tonight. We're online and jabbering away. https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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We've got a meeting on Thursday!!!
by Tim Keller 11 Aug '20

11 Aug '20

Hey Everybody! We've got a meeting on Thursday! The pandemic continues and Technopia continues to be closed so we'll continue to meet virtually at our same location... I hope everybody is doing okay. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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asterisk or other linux pbx
by Bradley Noyes 24 Jul '20

24 Jul '20

Hi All, I’m considering a move from a traditional (and proprietary) PBX to something open-source that i can manage. I know very little about this, so i’m trying to understand if my goal is even possible. Given that our provider (i.e. gatekeeper) is Comcast, i worry they prevent running self-hosted VOIP boxes. Currently the office has 4 lines supplied by comcast. The comcast cable modem has 4 telephone lines going into a Panasonic PBX, which they dispatch the calls to the POTS phones. I want to replace the Panasonic PBX since its proprietary and requires a call into the phone company to change anything. I have very little knowledge in this area, so i’m wondering if anyone here has had experience in this area. Thanks! - brad

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Reminder! Meeting tonight! Topic: min.io demo and then general discussion at 7PM!
by Tim Keller 09 Jul '20

09 Jul '20

Hey Gang, We've got a meeting tonight at 7PM! It's still virtual because you know, the pandemic. Hopefully in the future we'll be able to stand 6' apart from each other and hang out! But until then, there's Jitsi! We'll be meeting here: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA at 7PM! We'll likely jibber jab until it's late.. My neighbors house may or may not catch on fire again! I'm going to show off Min.IO running in a docker container. I can show the web interface and then we'll stick some objects in the container. I know that several other WLUG members are also using it in production so it'll be interesting to get their take on it as well. Then I suspect we'll end up talking about all things nerdy! See you! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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recommended printer/3-in-1 laser B+W for general (Linux and Windows clients)
by Doug Mildram 09 Jul '20

09 Jul '20

Hi! Hope this doesnt start a HUGE preference debate, but I'm taking feedback on what some of you already know to be a "solid" not too big laser black+white, flatbed/top scanner+copier (no top sheet feeder please, adds too much space/width) BUT THE PAIN is always in the PRINTER drivers/software, win or linux, in my experience. Honestly, been battling w/PDF's too long, to an old-ish Brother HL-L2395DW 3-in-1 --I'm working mostly on Linux Mint 19 (a deviant ubuntu I highly recommend for ex-win users) --Printing most things OK. IIRC, didnt have to find Linux drivers the hard way. --Printing PDF's gets iffy. LibreOffice sometimes cures my blues; DocumentViewer is probably the worst, "evince" also iffy, etc. Sometimes "Data received"....ends with a silent chirp, sometimes printer panel indicates a quick reject (nothing printed) saying "Out of Memory", BUT REALLY it's not the job == big, I think it must be a nasty runaway/leaky PDF->driver thing, but if I -- copy/email/send the nasty job to a win7 laptop and use AcroRead, USUALLY gets it done. Until today when ALL seemed to fail, I'm ready to cough up a few $hundred for a better beast, with wired ethernet+USB though I suppose it's pointless to avoid wireLESS interface as long as it does wired ethernet. Oh look! Today's impossible job just came out, from where! Losing my mind. Budget: since not color, I could go over $300 or so, where most of the decent ones sit. Been an HP fan for a long time, but things change, and I'm open to other solid models. Thx!

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Reminder, we've got a meeting next week!
by Tim Keller 04 Jul '20

04 Jul '20

Hey Gang, I hope you're having a happy and healthy safe 4th of July!! We've got a meeting next week! I'm going to give a quick demo on Min.io, we'll do a round table and I'm sure general tom foolery will occur! Our usual Jitsi haunt will be where we'll meet until things improve, though it's looking better for New England and worse for everybody else.. My hope is soon we'll be meeting at Technopia, but until then, we'll keep the candle burning anyway we can! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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3D printing RC planes
by Richard Klein 26 Jun '20

26 Jun '20

I just watched a webinar from these guys. Those of you with 3D printers might want to check them out. https://www.3daeroventures.com/ -- Rich

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Great meeting last night... but we need topics...
by Tim Keller 24 Jun '20

24 Jun '20

Hey Gang, Thanks for everybody who showed up, we had a great time! We also had a couple new people show which was great! However, it's clear that even doing the virtual meetings, we need to have a topic.. we simply ran out of stuff to talk about... For the next meeting I'm going to do a talk on https://min.io/ It's an open source object storage system that works just like S3 only you can host it locally. IF people have things they'd like to talk about let me know! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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WLUG Meeting tomorrow night (June 11th) , via Jitsi! @7PM
by Tim Keller 10 Jun '20

10 Jun '20

Hey Gang, We've got a virtual wlug meeting tomorrow night via JitSi at 7PM! The link is going to be: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA I also announced it on the meetup so who knows who'll show up! Maybe our meeting will get bombed! The topic is going to be the usual... come, be nerdy we'll talk about everything! Like I said before, at some point in the future we'll be actually meeting up in person, hopefully at Technopia! However, we need to coordinate with them and do it safe and sensibly. Later, Tim Keller WLUG President -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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June virtual meeting!
by Tim Keller 09 Jun '20

09 Jun '20

Hey Gang! Well, we're still not quite out of it, so this month's meeting is going to be virtual again. I've been watching Technopia's website and they're now open to members only. I think when it's open to the general public, we'll follow the CDC guidelines, see what Technopia wants to do and have a real in person meeting. I hope everybody has kept sane, okay less crazy, during the quarantine. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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X1 Carbon Gen8 review
by joshua.gage.stone＠gmail.com 07 Jun '20

07 Jun '20

Hey all, Since Lenovo has been making announcements about shipping Linux on their machines [1] and expanding on their certifications [2], I decided to purchase an X1 Carbon Gen8 [3] as my newest daily driver. I thought I'd share some thoughts after installing Fedora 32 on it. Chassis: The X1 Carbon has excellent build quality. Despite being an ultrathin laptop, it feels quite solid in my hands and is well-balanced when grasping with one hand. Weighing in at 2.38 lbs, it's much lighter and smaller than my T480 (4.03 lbs) which makes it more ideal for traveling. The laptop doesn't flex or wobble when typing either. Ports: The number of ports is quite good compared to other ultrathin laptops like the Dell XPS 13 and Macbook. Two USB-C ports are available which are its main method of charging (very useful for sharing cables too). There are two also standard USB-A ports, as well as an HDMI port and headphone jack. There isn't native ethernet which is a bit of a disappointment, but fortunately this is mitigated with a dongle that comes with the laptop. There isn't an SD card slot or even a microSD slot either, but the SD card reader dongle I already use with my desktop can be used instead. Monitor: The FHD 400 nit screen is very good. Costa Rica 4K [4] -- which is typically used as a benchmark for demonstrating display quality -- looks quite nice on it. I don't have a colorimeter [5] on hand for measuring the full capabilities of the screen in a more empirical fashion, but it should be capable of showing the full sRGB range as well as covering most of Adobe RGB. The 4K HDR 500 nit configuration should be more ideal if color reproduction and HDR are of utmost importance. Keyboard: Thinkpads are well renowned for their keyboards, and the keyboard on the Carbon is no exception. The keys feel just right to me when typing, not being too mushy or too clicky. They also don't give off much noise, which is very much appreciated when working in a quiet room. Speakers: I'm quite happy with the quality of the Dolby Atmos speakers. Usually laptop speakers are a disappointment to me, but the speakers on the Carbon are more than capable of handling different genres of music. The speaker alignment being upward-facing instead of side-facing as seen in other thinkpads also makes it better for watching videos and listening to music with other people. It does seem a bit lacking in bass-heavy music [6], but the built-in DAC is more than capable of driving a pair of good-quality headphones [7]. I might have to make an update on this later because Dolby Atmos support on Linux appears to be a work in progress and may need a preset to have it more closely match the speaker output on Windows [8] in the meantime. Battery: I can get a decent amount of battery life from the 51Wh battery, usually about 14 hours with light usage and medium screen brightness on stock Fedora. I think I could easily squeeze more battery life out of it if I installed Powertop or TLP, but hopefully battery optimizations land in upstream so no extra work needs to be done by the time Fedora 33 comes out. Noise & thermals: This laptop is quiet! Even when playing 1080p@60fps video in a quiet room, the fan don't make any audible noise. Multi-core workloads like code compiling also don't seem to be an issue on this laptop. Sensors report roughly 70C during such workloads, and the fan gives off a low amount of noise that's well within acceptable range. Performance & Stability: The i7-10510U performs quite well. It appears to be about as fast as the R5 2600X in my desktop at compile tasks, which is especially impressive considering this is in an ultrathin laptop! It also remains responsive for multitasking while compiling, still being able to play fullscreen video in Firefox while dropping a few frames when attempting to switch tabs (considering it's able to sustain full 60fps playback otherwise while most cores are saturated, this is still acceptable). Suspend support on the Carbon is rock solid too. I've repeatedly closed the lid and opened it back up to have it immediately wake up from suspend, making it ideal for keeping around on standby for when I want to look something up. Vendor Support: Almost everything about this laptop works out of the box on Fedora, with one exception being that firmware for the fingerprint sensor is currently still in testing and needs to be explicitly enabled [9] if you want to enable fingerprint login & authentication from Gnome Settings Since I bought the Carbon before Lenovo started offering a configuration with Linux preinstalled, I ended up paying for a Windows license. Lenovo support however was quite understanding of my situation in having no desire to run Windows on it, and provided a refund for the license. I think this is noteworthy since they previously didn't offer a refund when I previously bought my T480 a few years ago. Enabling hardware decoding support for improving CPU usage and battery life [10] is also trivial. Firefox appears to consume 15%-25% CPU during fullscreen 1080p@60fps video playback, and VLC is usually using 8%-15% for the same video. It's worth noting that Firefox's accelerated decoding support is still bleeding-edge and probably has room for optimizations, and I'd imagine VLC could be even more efficient once it has native Wayland support. Conclusion: Overall, I'm very happy with this laptop, both on the software and hardware side. Despite being brand new, the out-of-the-box Linux support has been some of the best I've seen in a long time and the tweaks I've had to do for it were quite minimal. I think once Lenovo sorts out their official Linux support (I still don't see it offered as an OS option in the customization page), they'll have a truly stellar product that they can market to Linux users as a daily driver. Sources: 1. https://fedoramagazine.org/coming-soon-fedora-on-lenovo-laptops/ 2. https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/press-releases/lenovo-brings-linux-certif… 3. https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/X1-Carbon-Gen-8-/p… 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXb3EKWsInQ 5. https://www.amazon.com/X-Rite-Color-Munki-Smile-ColorMunki/dp/B009APMNB0/ 6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgRr0CLFhaw 7. https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50xBT-Wireless-Bluetooth-Headpho… 8. https://github.com/JackHack96/PulseEffects-Presets/tree/master/irs 9. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_(Gen_7)#Fing… 10. https://mastransky.wordpress.com/2020/06/03/firefox-on-fedora-finally-gets-…

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Signing a driver for UEFI in Debian
by Richard Klein 01 Jun '20

01 Jun '20

I'm trying to build Droidcam. Part of the install process wants to sign a driver: "Secure Boot is enabled, attempting to sign the driver please specify signing key location (or leave empty to sign manually later) You can Google 'secure boot' for your distro Enter the path of the public key:" Googling didn't show me a clear answer. Does anyone know what path it's looking for? -- Rich

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8GB Pi4 announced!!!
by Tim Keller 29 May '20

29 May '20

The Pi4 people announced an 8GB version for $75! That's enough ram you could run a chrome tab or two! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Creating Hotspot and Fedora 32
by Dennis Payne 19 May '20

19 May '20

I upgraded to Fedora 32 last night. I can create a hotspot like I did with Fedora 31 but connecting to it fails. I use: nmcli dev wifi hotspot ifname wlp3s0 ssid <name> password <password> Is there something else I need to do with Fedora 32? -- Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com https://social.freegamedev.net/channel/dulsi

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Reminder: Meeting tomorrow! Your/My/Everybody's house! 7PM! via Jitsi!
by Tim Keller 13 May '20

13 May '20

Hey Everybody, Yup, we're all trapped at home like crazed rats in a maze, but that can't stop us from having a WLUG meeting! Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Time: 7pm - Whenever we want to stop! Topic: Lots of stuff I'm sure! Snacks and refreshments sadly won't be provided, though expect a fair amount of eating and drinking on camera! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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