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Re: [Wlug] Re: Another distro Question
by JONATHAN BEALL Aug. 19, 2004

Aug. 19, 2004

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Another distro Question
by Martin, Eric Aug. 19, 2004

Aug. 19, 2004

I'm teaching a Beginners Linux course in a few weeks for Nitelife with the Worc Pub Schools. I was almost ready to go with Fedora, but I don't think that has what I'm looking for. I want something easy for people to pickup, and I don't think RPMs don't give you the linux feel. I'm going to start out w/Knoppix, but I also want to get into a disk install. I've only used Gentoo, RHAT, and Knoppix. A friend mentioned SuSe, but I've never used it. Very open to suggestions, I want as people to enjoy this class, not think that linux is out of their grasp. So, the question is what distro would people recommend for beginners aside from Knoppix? Eric

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RE: [Wlug] Linux Training
by Martin, Eric Aug. 18, 2004

Aug. 18, 2004

I agree. HOWTOs have taught me the most out of everything. I'd say take the money that you'd pay for training, and get a few ORA (O'Reilly & Assoc.) books, cd rom bookshelves, or maybe even a Subscription to safari. Reading and doing is my best way. Eric -----Original Message----- From: sonnyvn(a)linus.mitre.org [mailto:sonnyvn@linus.mitre.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:54 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Linux Training Mark, In my opinion, classes are always out of date. When I first started with HPUX and Solaris, I was sent to classes. Afterward, I have found docs.sun.com and docs.hp.com has even more info than the classes (and they are free). For Linux, the www.linux.org with (www.tldp.org) website(s) have given me 80% of linux knowledge. Depending upon your distributions (mine is Redhat), I have found even more indepth documentations (pdf) from their website to do almost everything my Solaris and HP-UX can do (except Jumpstart and Ignite-UX). Hopes this helps a little. Sonny Nguyen > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Linux Training (Mark Eaton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:54:19 -0400 > From: "Mark Eaton" <meaton(a)sterilite.com> > Subject: [Wlug] Linux Training > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <C410352A9903E540B8FBE58DAEDDC09147E66B(a)shomail2k.sterilite.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > We are a manufacturing firm located in North Central Mass. We're > converting our Enterprise systems from Unix/Solaris & SUNs to Linux & > Intel's running clustered servers. We are pretty proficient at > Solaris but need to get up to speed on Linux fast. I can't afford to > have people out for 2 or 3 weeks to go to Red Hat for formal training > and that's about all I've found other than "buy our > CD's...". Are there some good intermediate to advanced courses available > in the Greater Worcester area that you would recommend? Thanks for > your help. Mark - meaton1(a)earthlink.net > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 10, Issue 14 > ************************************ > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Another distro Question
by Martin, Eric Aug. 18, 2004

Aug. 18, 2004

I want to structure it as a more beginners class, more desktop type stuff than shell scripting. Targetting towards regular users who are frustrated with Word, getting virii left and right, etc. Eric -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Robert [mailto:arobert@dhcp-0-7-e9-bc-5c-fc.cpe.townisp.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:24 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Another distro Question Is this course as much about learning Unix/Linux commands or the distribution itself? I believe that virtually any Linux distribution could be a good choice if you are spending most of your time discussing how to use the command line and general administrative tasks. Once the command line basics and bash shell scripting is covered, specific distributions could be covered. I would then say that Fedora or Suse are good general choices. Slackware is good too but it is not necessarily for a new user. On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 09:04, Martin, Eric wrote: I'm teaching a Beginners Linux course in a few weeks for Nitelife with the Worc Pub Schools. I was almost ready to go with Fedora, but I don't think that has what I'm looking for. I want something easy for people to pickup, and I don't think RPMs don't give you the linux feel. I'm going to start out w/Knoppix, but I also want to get into a disk install. I've only used Gentoo, RHAT, and Knoppix. A friend mentioned SuSe, but I've never used it. Very open to suggestions, I want as people to enjoy this class, not think that linux is out of their grasp. So, the question is what distro would people recommend for beginners aside from Knoppix? Eric _____ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Thank you, Andrew Robert Systems Architect TS&S Infrastructure Support - OpenVMS Massachusetts Financial Services Phone: (617) 954-5882 Pager: (781) 764-7321

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Linux Training
by sonnyvn＠linus.mitre.org Aug. 18, 2004

Aug. 18, 2004

Mark, In my opinion, classes are always out of date. When I first started with HPUX and Solaris, I was sent to classes. Afterward, I have found docs.sun.com and docs.hp.com has even more info than the classes (and they are free). For Linux, the www.linux.org with (www.tldp.org) website(s) have given me 80% of linux knowledge. Depending upon your distributions (mine is Redhat), I have found even more indepth documentations (pdf) from their website to do almost everything my Solaris and HP-UX can do (except Jumpstart and Ignite-UX). Hopes this helps a little. Sonny Nguyen > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Linux Training (Mark Eaton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:54:19 -0400 > From: "Mark Eaton" <meaton(a)sterilite.com> > Subject: [Wlug] Linux Training > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: > <C410352A9903E540B8FBE58DAEDDC09147E66B(a)shomail2k.sterilite.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > We are a manufacturing firm located in North Central Mass. We're > converting our Enterprise systems from Unix/Solaris & SUNs to Linux & > Intel's running clustered servers. We are pretty proficient at Solaris > but need to get up to speed on Linux fast. > I can't afford to have people out for 2 or 3 weeks to go to Red Hat for > formal training and that's about all I've found other than "buy our > CD's...". Are there some good intermediate to advanced courses available > in the Greater Worcester area that you would recommend? > Thanks for your help. > Mark - meaton1(a)earthlink.net > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 10, Issue 14 > ************************************ > >

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RE: [Wlug] Another distro Question
by Martin, Eric Aug. 18, 2004

Aug. 18, 2004

What I'm probably going to do is have some older boxes that we can run linux on, but the lab computers I'm going to use Knoppix (to avoid that problem). Also, I was just thinking, are there any good free software packages for disk partitioning to make room for linux if I want to cover dual boots? Iknow there's partition magic for windows, but I wanted something freesoftware / opensource. Eric -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 6:14 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Another distro Question -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 17 August 2004 9:04 am, Martin, Eric wrote: > I'm teaching a Beginners Linux course in a few weeks for Nitelife with > the Worc Pub Schools. I was almost ready to go with Fedora, but I > don't think that has what I'm looking for. I want something easy for > people to pickup, and I don't think RPMs don't give you the linux > feel. I'm going to start out w/Knoppix, but I also want to get into a > disk install. I've only used Gentoo, RHAT, and Knoppix. A friend > mentioned SuSe, but I've never used it. Very open to suggestions, I > want as people to enjoy this class, not think that linux is out of > their grasp. So, the question is what distro would people recommend > for beginners aside from Knoppix? > > Eric HI Eric, Are you actually going to be allowed to obliterate the existing hard drive contents on the computers for this Linux class? If so, that's actually a good thing! I teach an intro course for the Chelmsford Community Education program, and I'm not allowed to blow away Windows on their hard drives (shucks...). So, I stick with Knoppix and user level concepts and it has worked out rather well. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBIoMPHl0iXDssISsRAjhwAJ0dy1gHGR4xp2mECx/P3QsMDVA7BgCfSlmC 5j7MiYpm0+Hz2AHNX7gXbm8= =yCuv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Linux Training
by Mark Eaton Aug. 18, 2004

Aug. 18, 2004

We are a manufacturing firm located in North Central Mass. We're converting our Enterprise systems from Unix/Solaris & SUNs to Linux & Intel's running clustered servers. We are pretty proficient at Solaris but need to get up to speed on Linux fast. I can't afford to have people out for 2 or 3 weeks to go to Red Hat for formal training and that's about all I've found other than "buy our CD's...". Are there some good intermediate to advanced courses available in the Greater Worcester area that you would recommend? Thanks for your help. Mark - meaton1(a)earthlink.net

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RE: [Wlug] Another distro Question
by Martin, Eric Aug. 18, 2004

Aug. 18, 2004

Awesome! Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Brian Waite [mailto:linwoes@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:19 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Another distro Question On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:21:19 -0400, Martin, Eric <martine(a)worc.k12.ma.us> wrote: > What I'm probably going to do is have some older boxes that we can run > linux on, but the lab computers I'm going to use Knoppix (to avoid > that problem). Also, I was just thinking, are there any good free > software packages for disk partitioning to make room for linux if I > want to cover dual boots? Iknow there's partition magic for windows, > but I wanted something freesoftware / opensource. > > Eric > Eric, qtparted works great. There is a good HOWTO on the web, whose URL escapes me, that exaplains you to resize NTFS partitions and also recover if something goes wrong. I have resized 2 WinXP disks with any problems. Thanks Brian > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 6:14 PM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Another distro Question > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tuesday 17 August 2004 9:04 am, Martin, Eric wrote: > > I'm teaching a Beginners Linux course in a few weeks for Nitelife > > with the Worc Pub Schools. I was almost ready to go with Fedora, > > but I don't think that has what I'm looking for. I want something > > easy for people to pickup, and I don't think RPMs don't give you the > > linux feel. I'm going to start out w/Knoppix, but I also want to > > get into a disk install. I've only used Gentoo, RHAT, and Knoppix. > > A friend mentioned SuSe, but I've never used it. Very open to > > suggestions, I want as people to enjoy this class, not think that > > linux is out of their grasp. So, the question is what distro would > > people recommend for beginners aside from Knoppix? > > > > Eric > > HI Eric, > > Are you actually going to be allowed to obliterate the existing hard > drive contents on the computers for this Linux class? If so, that's > actually a good thing! > > I teach an intro course for the Chelmsford Community Education > program, and I'm not allowed to blow away Windows on their hard drives > (shucks...). So, I stick with Knoppix and user level concepts and it > has worked out rather well. > > Later, > > Andy > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFBIoMPHl0iXDssISsRAjhwAJ0dy1gHGR4xp2mECx/P3QsMDVA7BgCfSlmC > 5j7MiYpm0+Hz2AHNX7gXbm8= > =yCuv > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Installfest/bakeoff
by Brian Waite Aug. 17, 2004

Aug. 17, 2004

With this talk of different distros lately, I was wondering if anyone was interested do an installfest and/or a distro bakeoff Where we can all see how each distro install, behaves, and how the HW support is. I for one would enjoy trying to install some distros on random machines. Any thoughts? Thanks Brian

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RE: [Wlug] Another distro Question
by JONATHAN BEALL Aug. 17, 2004

Aug. 17, 2004

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Re: [Wlug] Linux distro for older hardware
by JONATHAN BEALL Aug. 17, 2004

Aug. 17, 2004

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Linux distro for older hardware
by Joel Desrochers Aug. 17, 2004

Aug. 17, 2004

I second the vote for Slackware. Text based install and overall performance make it my favorite for older hardware. Unfortunately I prefer 128 MB RAM minimum for console only and around 256MB for X. Memory is cheap though. I am still quite happy with my P300/384MB RAM with Slack. Before Slackware, I toyed with a few minimalist distros (Peanut and Grey Cat Linux but found most of them lacking in either reliability or application packages/support). Two other tips on trying Linux and picking a distributionto try: 1) Don't rule out Knoppix, the popular CD-ROM bootable distro. You can use it on another box (possibly your current Windows 9X or XP) without modifying anything on the hard disk. Also makes a great PC diagnostic tool. http://www.knoppix.com/ 2) Consider reading up on the many distros on one of the many websites that list information. These are my two favorites and I am sure there are many more. http://www.linux.org/dist/index.html http://www.distrowatch.com Joel _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

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linux for older computers
by Andrew Perry Aug. 15, 2004

Aug. 15, 2004

Hi everyone. I have some older computers, the newest of the bunch being Celeron-566 MHz-64 MB RAM, the oldest a 486-25 MHz- maybe 16 MB RAM and wonder if anyone could either a) recommend linux distributions for them or b) point me to a site with minimum hardware requirements for linux distributions Primarily my goal is to learn more about linux. I would prefer something sold for a nominal cost on CD's. Cheapbytes.com sells Pink Tie 7.3,Mandrake 8.2, Debian 2.2 and some others for around $1 only, but offer no guidance as to the hardware requirements. Thanks, Andrew ===== -Dr. Andrew B. Perry Assistant Prof. of Mathematics, Springfield College 263 Alden St., Springfield MA 01109

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Does anyone know of any phones have the ability to sync with linux?
by Arturo Aug. 15, 2004

Aug. 15, 2004

Hi All, I've been searching for a cell phone and I wanted to know if anyone knows of one that has the ability to synchronize with linux. More specifically, I need the ability to synchronize the address book. Synchronization of the calendar as well would be really slick. A dream come true would be if anyone knows of a program that can sync Nokia 6800 or the Motorolla v300 with evolution or kmail? Any thoughts? Arturo

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Question on privoxy
by Andrew Robert Aug. 13, 2004

Aug. 13, 2004

Hi Everyone, I just installed the privoxy proxy server and configured my Opera browser v7.54 to use 127.0.0.1 under Fedora Core2. It works great but the "blocked by" messages are somewhat annoying. Does anyone know a quick way to eliminate seeing these? Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. -- Thank you, Andrew Robert Systems Architect TS&S Infrastructure Support - OpenVMS Massachusetts Financial Services Phone: (617) 954-5882 Pager: (781) 764-7321 Linux user : #201204

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has anyone work with xwindows and svideo out display (tv)
by Sonny Nguyen Aug. 13, 2004

Aug. 13, 2004

just asking...and testing...I have been trying to post stuff and keep getting email bounces. Sonny Nguyen

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fedora core 1 or 2 with lirc remote control program
by Sonny Nguyen Aug. 13, 2004

Aug. 13, 2004

Any anyone done anything with lirc? Sonny Nguyen

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Fedora core 1 or 2 with Lirc remote control program
by Sonny Nguyen Aug. 13, 2004

Aug. 13, 2004

Has anyone work with the lirc program with Fedora core 1 or 2. If you have seen this more than once.Please ignore the previous. Thanks. Sonny Nguyen

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New currency(?)
by Andy Stewart Aug. 12, 2004

Aug. 12, 2004

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C gurus
by Chuck Haines Aug. 11, 2004

Aug. 11, 2004

For all you C gurus out there. I'm working on a little program that when an event occurs, it dials out a Verizon Wireless AirCard, does it's thing and then when all events are done, the last event close the card. To close the ppp connection you send it a Ctrl-C, which I'm doing, however it is never working. The code I'm using is as follows: void *sound_alarm ( void * rd_struct ) { RADSPY_STRUCT *ptr_rd_struct; ptr_rd_struct = ( RADSPY_STRUCT * ) rd_struct; /* lock the modem_in_use variable to check to dial modem */ pthread_mutex_lock ( &modem_mutex ); if ( modem_in_use++ == 0 ) { /* we need to dial out the modem */ printf ( "Dialing the modem: %d\n", modem_in_use ); modem_pid = fork(); if ( 0 == modem_pid ) { int ret; /* we are the child so dial out the modem */ ret = execl ( "/usr/sbin/pppd", "pppd", "call", "ac555qnc", NULL ); if ( -1 == ret ) printf ( "Problem dialing modem: %s\n", strerror ( errno ) ); printf ( "Got here.\n" ); exit ( 0 ); } /* hack to wait enough time to let the modem dial */ sleep ( 10 ); } pthread_mutex_unlock ( &modem_mutex ); /* perform the sending of the data */ printf ( "Sounding the alarm: %d.\n", modem_in_use ); sleep ( 1 ); /* code to send away alarms will go here, sleep for now */ /* release the modem in use */ pthread_mutex_lock ( &modem_mutex ); if ( --modem_in_use == 0 ) { /* we need to hangup the modem */ printf ("Hanging up the modem: %d\n", modem_in_use ); kill ( SIGINT, modem_pid ); } pthread_mutex_unlock ( &modem_mutex ); pthread_exit ( (void *) 0 ); } This function is a thread that is spawned by the main loop when an event occurs. This event can occur multiple times, which is why I have the shared variable of how many events are currently occuring (modem_in_use). When I run this program, I'm always getting an error about the modem being locked by pid XXX, so it's never being closed. Anyone have any experience with this kinda thing? Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity WPI Class of 2005 ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 -------------------------------------------

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Multiple platform blues...
by Stephen C. Daukas Aug. 11, 2004

Aug. 11, 2004

I'm sure my experience with platform-dependent apps as an impediment to moving entirely to Linux is not unique. I have spent plenty of time playing with Linux at home, but have always had to deal with platform-specific needs of employers, etc., so I have never been able to completely immerse myself in Linux. I'd still like to use Linux as my primary platform, but I have to deal with having to run quite specific apps in different environments. So, I'm looking to begin a discussion about how to set-up a home environment that is as much Linux-based as is possible while providing for the realities of platform-specific requirements. Of course, this is as much a discussion of applications as it is about platforms. I have 3 systems and 1 laptop at home, all of which are Pentium IIIs, one as fast as 800MHz (imagine that!), that are available for use in my home network. I must be able to run Internet Explorer 6.x (required for several web-enabled apps I must use on a regular basis), Word, and PowerPoint. My wife has a Pentium III laptop that must run XP because of her work, but it would be nice to have her access a linux file server for backup and such. (She also likes Linux games!) Also, I have a couple of laser printers and an ink jet that I would rather hang off of one print server. With an eye toward a home network that must include Microsoft and access to Macs at work, here are some questions to start this discussion off: Q1 - OpenOffice versus MS Office: I will need to be reading/editing/creating Word and Powerpoint files (as most of the world do). I will be getting files to edit, and be creating others from scratch. I teach, so the results are intended for display on an ActiveBoard with the expectation of touching the board (or clicking from the console) to follow a link embedded in a powerpoint slide yielding a movie clip, or web page, or whatever. I'm told I have control over the department's files, but not to the extent of choosing something other than MS, so I'd like to use OpenOffice as my primary environment and then generate MS files for use at the school. I assume OpenOffice can do what PowerPoint can do (within reason), but I can't afford the time to "fix" generated MS Office files to work in a Mac or XP environment. Are the any OpenOffice users out there that can comment on this? Q2 - Heterogeneous access: I want to be able to access any file created in any of the three environments. I'd like to move files between the Macs at work and one or more of my machines at home without using Email (I want to avoid any constraints like size limitations on attachments). I want to be able to pull and push those files to whatever platform is needed for whatever needs to be done with them. I assume VNC is available on the Mac, and that I would probably need to run SAMBA, but what are the options these days? I suppose I could set up a FTP server... I'd also like to drop the static IP because of cost, and have already moved the web site to a commercial provider... Q3 - Email: Of primary concern is moving existing email from the MS environment (laptop) to Linux. I am trying to find a way to export all of my email from Mozilla 1.6 to a file or files that can then be moved to a Linux box and imported/read by a mail reader there, but I can't seem to find a way to do this... There is no export function in Mozilla 1.6 and the mail files are not consistently ASCII (at least from what I've seen). I have even tried to use other mailers' ability to import from their competitors, in the hopes that one of them can do the export, but I have had no luck with any of them knowing about Mozilla. Does anyone know of a way to get email out of Mozilla into an ASCII file-based structure (or something equally vanilla) that can be read by a standard Linux reader? Beyond that specific issue, what would be the best way to handle email? Right now I limit myself to using one platform and POP only from it. This is because I can travel with the laptop and not all the servers I access allow IMAP. I retrieve mail from 7 different accounts and forwarding is not allowed (nor do I want to have to keep track of that). I don't mind having to do this, but I'm wondering about other options... Thanks for your sage advice! Steve

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Logitech QuickCam Pro and Programming
by Chuck Haines Aug. 10, 2004

Aug. 10, 2004

Hey guys, I recently got a Logitech QuickCam Pro and was thinking about doing some development work with it. I'd like to make a program that will take pictures when motion is detected or when I send it commands to do so. I'm currently looking to do it in C, so does anyone have any experience with this? I've done some googling and found some material but nothing that is really a how-to for the API for this kinda thing. Oh yea, I'm developing it on a laptop that runs Fedora Core 2, but I will eventually be porting it to an embedded computer (an Arcom GX-1 to be exact) which runs a flavor of RedHat 7.2 and kernel 2.4.18. Thanks, Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity WPI Class of 2005 ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 -------------------------------------------

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Job posting
by Mike Leo Aug. 6, 2004

Aug. 6, 2004

Think this is my first mass-email but thought I would share with the group. I recruiter sent this to me today...i have no more information than what is listed below. If interested, I recommend communicating directly with the recruiter at winterwyman.com....he is Joe Kotlinski j jkotlinski(a)winterwyman.com--you can tell him Mike Leo sent you, for what ever that is worth. Good luck. "a successful start-up in the medical devices industry located in the MetroWest/495 area. They want to hire 3 desktop support people. The people they're seeking must have: 6-12 months of experience; Microsoft Networking, Windows 98/NT/2000/XP, and hands on knowledge of Microsoft Office, e-mail applications such as Outlook and Outlook Express and Internet Explorer; and a BS Degree. The base salary will probably max out in the low $40,000s." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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RE: [Wlug] Multiple platform blues...
by Martin, Eric Aug. 6, 2004

Aug. 6, 2004

A1: OpenOffice works fine with word / powerpoint. Only catch is Password protected docs. A2: Samba works for me. Its wicked easy to learn (took me maybe a few hours). I run a 200GB samba server in my basement with ReiserFS as the file system. Windows likes it, *NIX can mount it, and I assume OSX can too. A3: Can't help, sorry :( -----Original Message----- From: Stephen C. Daukas [mailto:stephen@daukas.com] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 8:54 PM To: WLUG Subject: [Wlug] Multiple platform blues... I'm sure my experience with platform-dependent apps as an impediment to moving entirely to Linux is not unique. I have spent plenty of time playing with Linux at home, but have always had to deal with platform-specific needs of employers, etc., so I have never been able to completely immerse myself in Linux. I'd still like to use Linux as my primary platform, but I have to deal with having to run quite specific apps in different environments. So, I'm looking to begin a discussion about how to set-up a home environment that is as much Linux-based as is possible while providing for the realities of platform-specific requirements. Of course, this is as much a discussion of applications as it is about platforms. I have 3 systems and 1 laptop at home, all of which are Pentium IIIs, one as fast as 800MHz (imagine that!), that are available for use in my home network. I must be able to run Internet Explorer 6.x (required for several web-enabled apps I must use on a regular basis), Word, and PowerPoint. My wife has a Pentium III laptop that must run XP because of her work, but it would be nice to have her access a linux file server for backup and such. (She also likes Linux games!) Also, I have a couple of laser printers and an ink jet that I would rather hang off of one print server. With an eye toward a home network that must include Microsoft and access to Macs at work, here are some questions to start this discussion off: Q1 - OpenOffice versus MS Office: I will need to be reading/editing/creating Word and Powerpoint files (as most of the world do). I will be getting files to edit, and be creating others from scratch. I teach, so the results are intended for display on an ActiveBoard with the expectation of touching the board (or clicking from the console) to follow a link embedded in a powerpoint slide yielding a movie clip, or web page, or whatever. I'm told I have control over the department's files, but not to the extent of choosing something other than MS, so I'd like to use OpenOffice as my primary environment and then generate MS files for use at the school. I assume OpenOffice can do what PowerPoint can do (within reason), but I can't afford the time to "fix" generated MS Office files to work in a Mac or XP environment. Are the any OpenOffice users out there that can comment on this? Q2 - Heterogeneous access: I want to be able to access any file created in any of the three environments. I'd like to move files between the Macs at work and one or more of my machines at home without using Email (I want to avoid any constraints like size limitations on attachments). I want to be able to pull and push those files to whatever platform is needed for whatever needs to be done with them. I assume VNC is available on the Mac, and that I would probably need to run SAMBA, but what are the options these days? I suppose I could set up a FTP server... I'd also like to drop the static IP because of cost, and have already moved the web site to a commercial provider... Q3 - Email: Of primary concern is moving existing email from the MS environment (laptop) to Linux. I am trying to find a way to export all of my email from Mozilla 1.6 to a file or files that can then be moved to a Linux box and imported/read by a mail reader there, but I can't seem to find a way to do this... There is no export function in Mozilla 1.6 and the mail files are not consistently ASCII (at least from what I've seen). I have even tried to use other mailers' ability to import from their competitors, in the hopes that one of them can do the export, but I have had no luck with any of them knowing about Mozilla. Does anyone know of a way to get email out of Mozilla into an ASCII file-based structure (or something equally vanilla) that can be read by a standard Linux reader? Beyond that specific issue, what would be the best way to handle email? Right now I limit myself to using one platform and POP only from it. This is because I can travel with the laptop and not all the servers I access allow IMAP. I retrieve mail from 7 different accounts and forwarding is not allowed (nor do I want to have to keep track of that). I don't mind having to do this, but I'm wondering about other options... Thanks for your sage advice! Steve _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Anyone proficient in Beowulf (cluster) installations?
by Dwight A. Ernest Aug. 6, 2004

Aug. 6, 2004

I may need some help with a Beowulf cluster, with which I personally have no experience; I'd love to hear if anyone on this list has any relevant experience. Thanks! -- Dwight A. Ernest, dwight at significant dot com GPG key A6999567 Cell: +1-508-523-1416 FAX: +1-978-405-2504 YIM: dwight_ernest RHCE #803004293310030 http://significant.com/~dwight/ KA2CNN Papa, partner, pilot, net geek, sysadmin, consultant, cohouser.

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Graphing Package for Python.
by Chuck Noyes Aug. 3, 2004

Aug. 3, 2004

Hi all, I'm using version 2.2 python on a laptop running RH9; 2.4.23 kernel. I'd like to know what the 'list' considers a decent, and fairly easy to learn graphing package. I don't need anything too fancy, just a 2-D line graph package I can plug into python. I'd really like to stay away from object- oriented stuff, mostly because I don't understand it too well. Since the scripts I'm working on will probably be run on MS Windows as well as in Linux, the package will need to have a MS version too. Thanks, -Chuck -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

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Speaker for next meeting
by albutler33＠netscape.net Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

I'm in. I'd be interested in hearing a talk on SELinux. Al Butler __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

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Re: August Speaker Proposal
by Phil H July 30, 2004

July 30, 2004

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:00:11 -0400, wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:10:49 -0400 > From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> > Subject: [Wlug] August Speaker proposal > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Cc: dwalsh(a)redhat.com > Message-ID: <16647.46057.757622.844343(a)segfault.boston.redhat.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello, > > If there is interest, Dan Walsh is willing to give a presentation on > SELinux for the next meeting. Takers? > > -Jeff I'd be interested in hearing it, but I'll be out of the country. Next meeting, I guess. Will the slides (if any) be made available online for those who can't make it? Phil

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RE: [Wlug] Partition table blues
by Martin, Eric July 30, 2004

July 30, 2004

All fdisk /mbr does is replace your mbr with windows info...the most it would screw up is grub / lilo (what ever is in your mbr). That can be replaced with any livecd and a quick command from grub or lilo. -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:gma2004@verizon.net] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 11:43 AM To: douglas.waud(a)umassmed.edu; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Partition table blues Hi Doug, I haven't tried fdisk /mbr because I don't really fully understand what it does and have never seen a good explanation of how it will affect linux partitions. This morning, I read that it shouldn't be used on disks that have more than four partitions. I have five partitions and some unclaimed space. I might try it later today. Beside that, anything of value is on the linux side of the disk. (That's not a microsoft slur, it's just where I have my files.) So, while I would like to be able to get the whole thing back to its original working order as a learning exercise, I'm more motivated to get to the linux partitions. Thanks again, Greg doug waud wrote: > Hi again > > This time, let's try focussing on one thing to try. > > I don't see that you have ever tried the standard way to restore the > MBR > for Windows --- boot a Windows floppy with fdisk on it and type > fdisk /mbr > and, if you still cannot boot windows, add a > sys c: > > It is not clear from here why you did not try this. > > doug > > > Gregory Avedissian wrote: > >> doug waud wrote: >> >>> Hi again Greg >>> >>> Gregory Avedissian wrote: >>> >>>> There were three backups of the mbr. One made under dos with >>>> debug.exe, and the others made with linux as, >>>> >>>> dd if=/dev/hda of=/boot/boot.MBR bs=512 count=1 >>>> dd if=/dev/hda of=/boot/boot.446.MBR bs=446 count=1 >>>> >>>> I restored with: >>>> >>>> dd if=/boot/boot.MBR of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 >>>> I think maybe I picked the wrong one. >> >> >> >> > I admit I would have used the second, safer (since it does not >> touch the >> > partition table), but I don't see why the 512 bs variant would not >> have >> > worked unless you had changed the partition table since making that >> > boot.MBR file. >> >> No, I didn't change the partition table. I made these backups within >> days of installing, so that I would have copies of a new, working mbr. >> >>> >>> It is hard to tell what went wrong until you tell us what you were >>> doing just before the system no longer would boot. (Those two lines >>> creating the boot.xyz files would only read from the first 512 or 446 >>> bytes not do any writing there so they cannot be the cause of your >>> troubles.) >>> >>> >>> Why don't you boot from a bootable floppy? Alternatively, start the >>> SuSE recovery mechanism which includes "boot an installed system" as >>> an option. If all that is screwed up it the MBR, you could then >>> simply run LILO to refresh it. >>> >> >> I had a new win98 installation working ok, then I installed suse8.2 >> and set it up so that it would boot with GRUB from floppy. I don't >> recall if I ever tried to boot from the harddrive to get into windows >> after I installed suse, but I know I could get there from the floppy. >> >> When I did try to boot off the hard drive two days ago, it hung with >> the message, "Disk boot failure. Insert system disk." >> >> I could still boot to win or linux from the grub floppy at this >> point. >> I tried restoring the mbr in dos with debug.exe, and that didn't help. >> I could still boot to linux with the floppy, and I can't remember if I >> could still boot to windows. Then I tried restoring with >> dd if=/boot/boot.MBR of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 >> >> After that, I couldn't boot from the grub floppy anymore. Trying to >> boot the installed system from the rescue disk also failed. I then >> booted to the rescue system. Output of sfdisk -l looked like this: >> >> Disk /dev/hda: 3737 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track >> /dev/hda: unrecognized partition >> No partitions found >> >> Repeating the restore procedure with debug.exe didn't help, either. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Greg >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Partition table blues
by Keller, Tim July 29, 2004

July 29, 2004

Well, if your only keeping your windows partition around to watch DVD's, that's something that you've been able todo in linux for a long time. Check out mplayer / Xine and Ogle. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:gma2004@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 2:13 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Partition table blues Here's the update: Went into BIOS and set the disk to LBA. This resulted in sfdisk -l showing the same geometry as the kernel (CHS 3737/255/63) This put the start and end of the first partition at 0 and 1023. Somewhere along the line, my windows partition grew by 2GB. Is it possible that it's reading a previous partition table? Win98 was still showing c: to be 5.8GB, and dos fdisk was still showing it as 8.2 GB. So, I took Doug's advice and said a prayer, then went at it. Set the win partition back to 6GB with dos (win98) fdisk (with the drive hooked up as master.) This made windows unbootable, and fdisk /mbr didn't correct it. That's ok. I did have it working again until then, and I could have retrieved my data if I'd had any on that partition. Connected the drive as slave and put another drive I had with a non-critical linux installation on as hda (in case I screwed up and partitioned the wrong drive). Booted into linux and repartitioned with sfdisk /dev/hdb, putting in parameters for <start cylinder> <size in cylinders> <type> for each partition when promted: /dev/hdb1 0 765 c * /dev/hdb2 765 130 82 /dev/hdb3 896 1044 (L for linux is the default) /dev/hdb4 1941 1795 (tried both 85 for linux extended and 5 for win extended) /dev/hdb5 1941 1305 L /dev/hdb6 - it insisted on setting up hdb6, so I just hit enter, and let it take the rest of the disk. This was originally unpartitioned space. I then was able to mount /dev/hdb3 and access my root filesystem. I was not able to mount /dev/hdb5 to access my /home partition. Error message from mount was "wrong filesystem type or too many mounted filesystems). Unless someone knows the secret code to to mount a recovered logical partition, I'll assume that there's no easy way to do it and finish this project (i.e. wipe the disk and start over, without putting windows on this drive.) No more extended partitions for this boy. On a brighter note, I learned how to get windows98 to boot from the SECOND hard drive, and that gives me great satisfaction. It was way easier than I thought, and if anyone's interested, I'll give details. This means that when I figure out how to watch movies on dvd in linux, I can get rid of windows by simply removing the second drive. Thanks to all for your help with this. Greg Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 02:27:01PM -0400, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > >>>What does the kernel think the disk size is on bootup? >> >>hdb: 60036480 sectors (30739 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=3737/255/63, UDMA(100) > > >>>What does the BIOS say in the CMOS setup screen for the disk geometry? >> >>capacity 30740 MB >>cylinder 59560 >>head 16 >>precomp 0 >>landing zone 59559 >>sector 63 > > > The BIOS and kernel agree on the size of the disk. 59560/(255/16) = > 3737 cylinders. I would however make sure the BIOS is set to LBA mode > if it isn't, which should cause the heads to become 255. > > >>>What does the disk say on the label for the geometry? >> >>Model: DTLA-307030 >>Capacity: 30.7 GB >>LBA 60.036.480 sectors >>CHS: 16383/16/63 >>MLC: F80033 > > > Strange. That doesn't add up at all. Ah, here it is: > > "There is an industry convention to give C/H/S=16383/16/63 for disks > larger than 8.4 GB" [1] > > >>And here's more: >>DOS fdisk reports the partition as being 8032 MB. >>Win98 reports it (C:) as 5.8 GB. > > > Interesting. > > >>gnu parted reports it as: (note that the drive is temporarily connected as >>hdb for convenience) >>hdb: 60036480 sectors (30739 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=3737/255/63, UDMA(100) > > > Agrees with the kernel above. > > >>sfdisk -l >>Disk /dev/hdb: 1123 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track >>Units = cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 > > > Here is the problem. sfdisk is seeing the wrong number geometry. I > would attempt to fix the C/H/S values in the partition table with > sfdisk. First I would read [1] in it's entirety--it goes into all the > gory details of geometry and size limits. > > Here are some useful documents on geometry and partitioning: > > [1] http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Large-Disk-HOWTO.html > > [2] http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/default.asp?url=/ windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/prork/prcb_dis_qxql.asp > > [3] http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us /Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_t ro_kyrr.asp > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Partition table blues
by Gregory Avedissian July 29, 2004

July 29, 2004

Hi Doug, I tried fdisk /mbr and it worked easily. As expected, I only have a windows partition (verified by fdisk). I suspect that I'm less than halfway there. > >> This morning, I read that it shouldn't be used on disks that have more >> than four partitions. I have five partitions and some unclaimed space. >> I might try it later today. > > > I don't know where that came from. It came from ms. Maybe they're just playin' with our heads. > > However, once that is working, you can boot into your linux system (by > one of the ways I mentioned in an earlier post, and run LILO which is > smart enough to leave the Windows part working and simply add the stuff > for other things you want to boot (as specified in lilo.conf --- which > I assume is OK if it was working earlier and you have not edited it). No, there's no lilo.conf and never was one on that installation. There is (was) a grub/menu.lst, which serves the same function, but as far as I understand it, the partition table needs to contain information about linux partitions for either of these to work. I went ahead and booted the rescue system and tried a grub-install /dev/hda, and it returned a message saying that no /dev/root was found. Maybe I'll try parted again, now that I can find where hda1 ends. Thanks, Greg

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Fwd: Announcing the First Annual VMware User Conference
by Andy Stewart July 29, 2004

July 29, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Announcing the First Annual VMware User Conference Date: Wednesday 28 July 2004 7:13 pm From: "VMworld Conference Committee" <VMworld(a)vmware.com> To: andystewart(a)comcast.net Announcing the First Annual VMware User Conference VMworld 2004 Join The Virtual Evolution ONE OF THE YEAR'S MOST IMPORTANT IT EVENTS **************************************************** Come hear industry leaders, technology visionaries, and VMware executives explain why virtual infrastructure is one of the hottest innovations in IT today. WHERE: Manchester Grand Hyatt in beautiful San Diego, California WHEN: Wednesday, October 27 - Friday, October 29, 2004 ========================================= Register by August 15, 2004 and save $500! REGISTER ONLINE AT <http://www.vmworld2004.com> ========================================= HERE'S WHAT YOU'LL LEARN **************************************************** * New strategies and tools for implementing virtual infrastructure technology * The latest thinking on industry developments and trends * Timesaving tips from people who know -- including VMware developers * New products & feature updates HEAR AND BE HEARD ******************** * Meet with leading experts * Network with the VMware customer and partner community * Share your views and feedback with VMware product development A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY ********************* * Hands-on demos and labs * Keynote addresses by industry leaders * Informative breakout sessions * Exciting solutions expo * Unforgettable social events ************************* 80% OF FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES ARE SAYING THAT VIRTUAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS A CRITICAL CORE IT TECHNOLOGY. ************************** Don't wait. For more information and registration, Visit the VMworld 2004 website at www.VMworld2004.com <http://www.VMworld2004.com>. Click here <http://www.vmworld2004.com/invitation> to download a PDF overview of the conference. Conference Information ******************* Register online at: www.VMworld2004.com <http://www.VMworld2004.com> Phone Domestic: 1-866-VMWARE1 Phone International: 1-415-621-8022 VMworld 2004 Conference Committee VMworld(a)vmware.com <mailto:VMworld@vmware.com> VMware, Inc. 3145 Porter Drive Palo Alto, CA 94304 To UNSUBSCRIBE from -all- incidental VMware communications, including the VMware Newsletter, Discount Offers, Seminar invitations, etc., go to http://www.vmware.com/optout - ------------------------------------------------------- - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBCEI7Hl0iXDssISsRAus0AKCHWkzgk4GpwEpZttrLaWQyS4V7WwCeKCoh 1/s2hr2nVAZJdI/au1zvFwo= =btgq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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August Speaker proposal
by Jeff Moyer July 28, 2004

July 28, 2004

Hello, If there is interest, Dan Walsh is willing to give a presentation on SELinux for the next meeting. Takers? -Jeff

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Partition table blues
by Gregory Avedissian July 25, 2004

July 25, 2004

Yup. I blew it away. I had win98 and suse 8.2 on the same hard drive, booting linux from floppy. Noticed that I could no longer boot windows from the hard drive, so I attemted to restore the mbr that I'd saved earlier. That didn't work, my partition table is gone, and I can't get there from here. Parted has a function called something like 'Guess at partition near START and END'. I assume it's looking for cylindar numbers. Is there a way to get those if I didn't write them down when I partitioned the drive? I do have the sizes of the partitions, to the nearest 0.1 GB. Looking for a free solution here. I did find a $90 solution that runs in windows and teases me by showing the files but not letting me copy or view them. Thanks, Greg

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Problem with mount command
by Andy Stewart July 25, 2004

July 25, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, I have a problem with 'mount' between versions 2.11x and 2.12. Under 2.11x, this command worked just fine: mount -o port=3049,intr localhost:/null /crypt However, with the 2.12 version of mount, the command hangs and never returns. I have to kill the mount process to recover. Strace reports that the process is hanging at the "mount" call. Also, under 2.12, I do see entries in /var/log/messages indicating that a successful request was made to export /null: Jul 24 18:51:58 tux mountd[1843]: NFS mount of /null attempted from 127.0.0.1 Jul 24 18:51:58 tux mountd[1843]: /null has been mounted by 127.0.0.1 However, in another window, the "mount" command by itself does not show the NFS mount. All other NFS exporting/importing operations work just fine. The difference seems to be the two versions of mount and the use of the "port" option. I've downloaded the util-linux sources but so far cannot find a change that would effect this behavior. In case you are wondering what brought all of this about, I am trying to get my cryptographic file system (CFS by Matt Blaze) working under SuSE 9.1. I found a version of /bin/mount from another Linux system, and using that, I can access my files, but I really want to know why version 2.12 of util-linux broke/changed things. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBAwW9Hl0iXDssISsRAiB6AJ0fLoy8/P0GXccouoAvJA5PhclAVACcCv2J 13io+TWed0PHS0xYQpZV7fE= =Dufw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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nice use of graphics in a web page
by doug waud July 23, 2004

July 23, 2004

Hi all I suppose this is a non-rant. I usually bitch about unecessary complexity in web sites. A friend showed me this one (he is a decendant of one of the kids kidnapped there by the French and Indians) and I thought the picture of the change with time of the area was very well done. http://1704.deerfield.history.museum/ doug

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fetchmail/MS IMAP/8 bit
by Bill Mills-Curran July 22, 2004

July 22, 2004

I'm having troubles retaining special (8 bit?) encoding in email messages from the MS Exchange server where I work. Here's the normal path of my data: MS Exchange -> MS(?) IMAP -> fetchmail -> linux sendmail -> procmail -> mutt By the time an email with color fonts gets to mutt, the color is gone. As a test, I modified my .fetchmailrc to specify "cat" as my MDA so eliminated sendmail, procmail and mutt as offenders. I've also added "pass8bits" to my .fetchmailrc -- no improvement. Thus, I've narrowed the suspects to MS IMAP and fetchmail. Does anyone have experience with this problem? My environment: Redhat 9 fetchmail -V: > fetchmail -V This is fetchmail release 6.2.0+IMAP-GSS+NTLM+SSL+INET6+NLS Fallback MDA: (none) Linux esd-bcurran 2.4.20-30.9smp #1 SMP Wed Feb 4 20:36:46 EST 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Taking options from command line and /x/x/.fetchmailrc Idfile is /x/x/.fetchids Fetchmail will forward misaddressed multidrop messages to bcurran. Options for retrieving from CORP/x(a)x.com: True name of server is corpusmx1.us.dg.com. Protocol is IMAP. Password authentication will be forced. Server nonresponse timeout is 30 seconds. Default mailbox selected. All messages will be retrieved (--all on). Fetched messages will not be kept on the server (--keep off). Old messages will not be flushed before message retrieval (--flush off). Rewrite of server-local addresses is enabled (--norewrite off). Carriage-return stripping is disabled (stripcr off). Carriage-return forcing is disabled (forcecr off). Interpretation of Content-Transfer-Encoding is disabled (pass8bits on). MIME decoding is disabled (mimedecode off). Idle after poll is disabled (idle off). Nonempty Status lines will be kept (dropstatus off) Delivered-To lines will be kept (dropdelivered off) Received-message limit is 5 (--fetchlimit 5). Messages will be SMTP-forwarded to: localhost (default) Single-drop mode: 1 local name(s) recognized. No UIDs saved from this host. IMAP: Microsoft Exchange IMAP4rev1 server version 5.5.2657.74 TIA, Bill

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USB mouse - left handed ?
by Andy Stewart July 21, 2004

July 21, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, I am running a USB mouse on a RedHat 7.3 system (ancient version...don't ask...). In KDE 3.0, I use the GUI to change to left handed, but it has no effect. I also tried ' xmodmap -e "pointer = 3 2 1 " ' to no avail. Other than the fact that I cannot switch the two buttons, the mouse (trackball actually) works fine. gpm is not installed on this sytem, and I don't have root privs. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what else I should try (or rather, what else I should ask my sysadmin to try) ? Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/bFiHl0iXDssISsRApk7AJwJecahdYUx70IXYfILrFJbR+rMQgCfevuX K0gezxQ+ZovMw7lVpu+IAvs= =jawy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] USB mouse - left handed ?
by Andy Stewart July 21, 2004

July 21, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 20 July 2004 9:14 pm, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > I use my mouse left-handed, and it never occurred to me to switch the > buttons. Just switch your fingers. Well, yes, but my fingers are already trained differently. :-) One one of my trackballs (ps/2), there's a DIP switch to do this swapping of left/right. However, the USB version of this trackball appears not to have the same functionality (CH Products DT225). > I just went into kde control center (suse 8.2), and there's a choice for > left-handed mouse. After trying it with the buttons reversed, I retract my > initial suggestion and recommend that you get it to work the way you're > used to. Maybe a USB to PS2 adapter plug would do the trick. I'm using the > one that came with my new mouse. I tried the KDE control center, but it didn't work on this mouse(!). It has worked on all other mice/trackballs except this USB trackball. I also tried a USB->PS2 adapter, and then the trackball doesn't work at all. > Can anyone tell me if there's an advantage to plugging the mouse or the > keyboard into usb rather than ps2? Advantage? I think not. They're just different. Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/cdGHl0iXDssISsRAhgBAJ9sv7RY919sGddleqsKlPzt9XK1ZQCdFITl 1go+6IbX9RYM+xghj/VF70w= =ygbl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Open-source software running the Internet under the radar
by Karl Hiramoto July 20, 2004

July 20, 2004

Open-source software running the Internet under the radar http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/07/20/open.source.ap/index.html -- -- Karl Hiramoto karl at hiramoto dot org http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Mobile: 508.517.4819 Work: 978-425-2090

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REMINDER: WLUG BBQ
by Andy Stewart July 20, 2004

July 20, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG BBQ, which will be held in Shrewsbury MA on Wednesday, July 21st at 6:00 PM (yes, that's 6:00 PM). Directions are on the WLUG website. See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/QQ+Hl0iXDssISsRAlSLAJ0bXRs7rvQWzXinfTb5u/DnL8lECACghv34 akxPaMUWd/KH5UStKUuNeN0= =mEX9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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invincible processes
by Gregory Avedissian July 19, 2004

July 19, 2004

I just had some strange stuff happen to my SuSE 8.2 installation - it's stalling when I try to copy files and run some programs. If I try to kill the process, it doesn't go away (kill -9 pid, as root), and the machine won't shut down because stuff is still running. This coincidentally happened the same day that I started to prepare a replacement hard drive, so it's not on a critical installation (in fact, it's going to be wiped), but I'd still like to know what's going on. Note that I totally disconnected this drive when I was installing on the new one, just to make sure I didn't do anything to hurt it. Any ideas on what this could be or where to look would be appreciated. Greg

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Flowchart software
by Chuck Haines July 17, 2004

July 17, 2004

Does anyone know of any decent flow chart software for linux besides Dia or Kivio. Kivio is nice, however it's inability to export to a png or to be copy and pasted into star office makes it useless for me. Dia just doesn't cut it. Anyone know of anything? Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity WPI Class of 2005 ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 -------------------------------------------

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Encrypted USB pen drive
by Chuck Haines July 15, 2004

July 15, 2004

Has anyone configured an encrypted usb pen drive under linux? I'm not talking about encrypting single files, but being able to mount the pen drive as an encrypted device? I've look at loop-aes, but I'm curious is anyone has done this before and might give some pointers. Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity WPI Class of 2005 ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 -------------------------------------------

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[OT] Introduction
by Brian Waite July 15, 2004

July 15, 2004

Hi all. I wanted to quickly introduce myself. I just recently subscribed to the list and wanted to do a bit more than lurk. I hope to make a LUG meeting in the near future also. I don't want to waste too much bandwidth so I'll keep this short. If anyone is going up to the Ottawa Linux Symposium this month, maybe we can catch up and make some introductions, for everyone else, I look forward to meeting you all the LUG meeting. As I side note, I read the archives and wanted to second the idea for a "distro debate" LUG meeting. I think that would be really interesting to see what everyone runs and why. Thanks for the time Brian Waite

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Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell
by Andy Stewart July 15, 2004

July 15, 2004

Hi everybody, Novell is offering a free Linux Technical Resource kit to WLUG members (and other LUGs, I'm sure). To get it, you'll need to go to their website and answer a bunch of questions. Here is the information, in case you are interested. If anybody gets one of these, I'd be curious to know what they think of it. ===== "Novell Customer Communities is pleased to offer members of the Worcester Users Group the free Linux Technical Resource Kit. With its acquisition of SuSE and Ximian, Novell has committed itself to the Linux market in a very substantial way. Now you can evaluate for yourself the value that Novell brings to the Linux market and to your business. The Kit contains well over 10 gig of licensed and evaluation software, patches and fixes, and other tools and resources that will give you everything you need to evaluate and get to know the current hot technologies. A partial list of the Kit contents include: - SuSE 9.1 Professional (the very latest from SuSE) - SuSE 8.0 Linux Enterprise Server - Novell Nterprise Linux Services 1.0 - Ximian Desktop2 Eval - GroupWise for Linux 1.0 - Red Carpet 2.02 Eval - And lots more... To order your free kit simply go to http://www.novell.com/community/linux/order.php?sourceid=uswma and follow the instructions. This is a great benefit to introduce you to Linux technology from Novell and to Novell Customer Communities. Act now as supplies are limited." ===== -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Open Source CMS?
by Dwight A. Ernest July 12, 2004

July 12, 2004

Hi. I have a consulting client that is a non-profit in the midst of an IT management change. They have been seeking a good content management system for some time, but have not been seriously considering open source solutions for that need in spite of my cajoling them into that direction, in spite of the fact that the majority of their current web solution is built on Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL/etc. The main objection has been a lack of knowledge of any providers of a full-service CMS solution: sizing, integration, training, implementation, etc., which is something one can pretty much take for granted when dealing with proprietary CMSes. So what I'm seeking are pointers to open source content management integrators (either houses or experienced individual consultants) who can show a proven, referenceable list of happy clients for whom they've provided a full-service CMS solution. I look forward to hearing from you. -- Dwight A. Ernest, dwight at significant dot com GPG key A6999567 Cell: +1-508-523-1416 FAX: +1-978-405-2504 YIM: dwight_ernest RHCE #803004293310030 http://significant.com/~dwight/ KA2CNN Papa, partner, pilot, net geek, sysadmin, consultant, cohouser.

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RE: [Wlug] Open Source CMS?
by Martin, Eric July 12, 2004

July 12, 2004

I've played with Mambo (openmambo.org) and openeffect. There is a website that has a bunch of CMSs up with admin passwords so you can play around (the CMS sites go back to default every 15 minutes). Can't remember what the site is, but when I find it I'll post it to the list. -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Anderson [mailto:cra@WPI.EDU] Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 2:19 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Open Source CMS? On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 10:34:56PM -0400, Dwight A. Ernest wrote: > So what I'm seeking are pointers to open source content management > integrators (either houses or experienced individual consultants) who > can show a proven, referenceable list of happy clients for whom they've > provided a full-service CMS solution. This topic comes up from time to time. Has anyone played with any CMS stuff? I think it would make a great talk at an upcoming WLUG meeting, even just to answer the basic questions, What is a CMS? Why do I need/want one? _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell
by Minkov, Ross July 7, 2004

July 7, 2004

Hi, I just signed up for the WLUG mailing list. Can someone send me the link to request a Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell? I assume it's free? Thanks, Ross -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Smith Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 5:01 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 01:58:07 -0400 Gregory Avedissian <gma2004(a)verizon.net> wrote: > I got mine in the mail today. Immediately tried to boot up the 9.1 disk on > my office machine and couldn't get it to work. Checked the boot settings > in the bios a couple of times, booted my hard drive to try to read the > damned thing and couldn't even mount it. Finally figured out that it's a > DVD. Lemme know what it says - I won't be getting to it this week. Okay... I don't have a spare machine at this exact moment to install anything on (but this will change VERY soon... ;) ), but I poked around. There are three DVDs in a tri-fold paper-board carrying case. DVD 1A says it has the following (screen printed on the disc): -- SUSE(r) LINUX Enterprise Server 8 -- Nterprise Linux Services 1.0 -- GroupWise 6.5.1 -- Red Carpet Enterprise Server 2.02 -- ConsoleOne -- Linux Resources DVD 1B says it's got: -- SUSE LINUX Professional 8.2 -- Ximian Desktop 2 DVD 1C says it has: -- SUSE LINUX Professional 9.1 The README file on disc 1A specifically states that Ximian Desktop 2 needs to have SUSE Professional 8.2 installed, NOT 9.1, so that's why 8.2 is there. Disc 1C is bootable, assuming that your system is rigged to deal with that. ;) Other than that, each DVD has .iso files, which the user would burn to CDs (or mount locally, depending on what you're out to accomplish). I think I'll try to "sacrifice" my FC1 system to play with this... :D Although the package said that the contents were time-sensitive material (and each disc says that it is an Evaluation Software DVD-ROM), there was no indication in the README file of when anything (like the licenses) would expire. This will have to be explored further. Thanks, Andy, for bringing this to our attention! Best, -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com There are 10 kinds of people in the universe: Those who understand binary, and those who don't. * TAG! v3.1a *

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Re: [Wlug] Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell
by JONATHAN BEALL July 7, 2004

July 7, 2004

hey, Just got my email from novell. is it only dvd? or does it come with cd's too? -Jonathan Beall >From: Gregory Avedissian <gma2004(a)verizon.net> >Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell >Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 01:58:07 -0400 > >I got mine in the mail today. Immediately tried to boot up the 9.1 >disk on my office machine and couldn't get it to work. Checked the >boot settings in the bios a couple of times, booted my hard drive to >try to read the damned thing and couldn't even mount it. Finally >figured out that it's a DVD. Lemme know what it says - I won't be >getting to it this week. > >Greg > > > >Bill Smith wrote: >>On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 21:04:29 -0400 >>Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >>>... If anybody gets one of these, I'd be curious >>>to know what they think of it. >> >> >> >>On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:00:55 -0400 >>Bill Smith <wsmith(a)chezsmith.com> wrote: >> >> >>>I just filled out the questionaire. the final page had this to >>>say: >>> >>> Thank you William ! Your Linux Technical Resource Kit has been >>> successfully received. >>> We will contact you by e-mail as soon as your order ships. >>>... >> >> >>OKAY! >> >>I got THIS in my email box yesterday (Friday, 02 July) [edited to >>protect... Suffice to say it was addressed from Novell!]: >> >>======================================================== >> >>Subject: Novell/SuSE/Ximian Technical Resource Kit >>Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 10:23:01 -0600 >>X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.2 Beta >> >>I just wanted to let you know that the free Tech resource kit you >>have >>ordered has been shipped and you should be receiving it soon. >> >>Brent Sharp >>Novell Customer Communities >> >>======================================================== >> >>Ahhhh... i can hardly wait! :D >> >>I figure that because of the holiday, it should get here sometime >>around Thursday, give or take. I'll let you all know what >>happens... >> >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com >> Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com >> >> Eliminate the impossible. Whatever remains, however >> improbable, must be the Truth. -- Sherlock Holmes >> * TAG! v3.1a * >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Firewire/USB2.0 external case
by bryon3245＠netzero.com July 6, 2004

July 6, 2004

I am also in the market for a nice external hd case. But i have a few specs for mine. I need it to be able to cary very large drives 250gb>. It needs to be alandium, becuase that way it will last a lot longer and I will not be in fear of it cracking under my brutil use. If anyone has any like that, that they have used before I would appericate a review. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today!

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Firewire/USB2.0 case recommendations?
by John Stoffel July 6, 2004

July 6, 2004

Folks, Anyone know of a good FireWire and/or USB 2.0 external Hard Drive case? It's got to have a builtin powersupply and be durable. Any suggestions appreciated. John

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Hot Swap Drives on a Inspiron 9100
by Chuck Haines July 6, 2004

July 6, 2004

I just got a nice new Inspiron 9100 for work (a huge beast I might add) and I just installed Fedora Core 2 on it. I'm curious if anyone has any links or experience in how to make it so I can hot swap the drives (dvd burner, cd-rom, floppy, extra battery) without having to reboot. I've done some googling searching but haven't really found anything yet. If you could reply back to hainesca(a)nv.doe.gov (my work email), I'd be much appreciative. Thanks, Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity WPI Class of 2005 ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 -------------------------------------------

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LPI-LUG.org
by albutler33＠netscape.net July 3, 2004

July 3, 2004

Hello Andy, This is the organization I was telling you about Thursday night during the quarterly meeting. Think there might be any interest? You can check out the website at www.lpi-lug.org/. Al Butler LPI-LUG.org - What is it? This site is to promote the certification of Linux users through their LUG's (Linux User Groups). This is a site sponsored by the Open Source Software Institute, the United States Affiliate of LPI. There are two main sections of this site. The first section is devoted to individual Linux users/advocates/etc. The Linux Professionals Exchange is designed for registered individuals of LPI-LUG.org and provides access to employment opportunities that can only be found on LPI-LUG.org. Linux Users Groups are also encouraged to register with LPI-LUG.org. This first step will start communication between LPI-LUG.org and your LUG. Once registered, you are eligible for the benefits associated with being an LPI-LUG. __________________________________________________________________ Switch to the New Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

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Fwd: 7/15 Technical Focus Group Invite for Boston-Area User Groups
by Andy Stewart July 2, 2004

July 2, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA5ZHgHl0iXDssISsRAowmAJ4qJ8X27UV0GrnHYX/uL+uDysx0DQCcDb3a 4A7tSaYQdiWpX+9GLRU+Oj8= =Frww -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Fwd: [Wlug] GNHLUG quarterly meeting to be held at USENIX Technical Conference
by Andy Stewart July 2, 2004

July 2, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Everybody, This is a reminder about the LUG meeting to which we've all been invited that will be held in Boston this coming Thursday. I plan to be there and I hope to see many of you also. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA4YsnHl0iXDssISsRAimHAJ4vnXyg9uvWiHoveiEok0diMAEuPgCaAuZH vBRMRNJYsCVG2y33rkDg2hM= =ILaC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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External Harddrive Cases and Such
by sageman＠WPI.EDU July 1, 2004

July 1, 2004

> From: "John Stoffel" <stoffel(a)lucent.com> > Subject: [Wlug] Firewire/USB2.0 case recommendations? > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <16609.39769.539479.557377(a)gargle.gargle.HOWL> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Folks, > > Anyone know of a good FireWire and/or USB 2.0 external Hard Drive > case? It's got to have a builtin powersupply and be durable. Any > suggestions appreciated. > > John On a different, although related note, was wondering if anyone has had success with a Maxtor OneTouch brand external harddrive. I've read in howtos and in the kernel that you need to enable SCSI to access external USB 2.0/Firewire harddrives, and I assume that the Maxtor OneTouch will go off without a hitch. Right now you can get a 300 GB one off newegg for roughly $270, which is only about $20 more than the internal one. I was thinking of setting up a cron job to backup certain files to the external harddrive. Right now I have a RAID 5 system set up but think this is overkill; additionally, an external harddrive makes sharing between computers that aren't on a network much easier and is mobile to go with my laptop (setting up my laptop to play oggs through my car stereo is something I plan on doing, and instead of backing up my music collection on the laptop I could simply do it on the external harddrive and get a power inteverter to power it via the cigarette lighter plug). Additionally, I can just do striping over my harddrives instead of RAID 5'ing them and increase the preformance (why not? hehe). I was thinking about doing the external harddrive case deal but for backup at least this doesn't seem like a good alternative, since the external harddrive is only $20 more and the external harddrive case is much more than that. In less you plan on buying four or more harddrives to swap into the case, its not really cost effective. As for the long run, an external harddrive case isn't viable anywho, since a couple years from now its going to be nothing compared to the new ones, plus external harddrive technology will advance and speed up tremendously; look at Firewire 800 right now, already out, and one sees that 'investing' in an external harddrive case just doesn't pay out. Just my $.02.

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connections
by doug waud July 1, 2004

July 1, 2004

Hi Just a thought/comment (couldn't resist!) From: Keller, Tim <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> if((get_cur_temp("Fahrenheit") >= 70) && (osha_violation("electric_fence") == OFF)) { pool.occupants.add(Tim); } I gather, Tim, that you are not enamored of firewire! :-) doug

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RE: [Wlug] Website updated...upcoming activity
by Keller, Tim July 1, 2004

July 1, 2004

if((get_cur_temp("Fahrenheit") >= 70) && (osha_violation("electric_fence") == OFF)) { pool.occupants.add(Tim); } -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:19 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Website updated...upcoming activity -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody, I've finally gotten around to updating the WLUG website - my apologies for the delay. o slides from June talk are available (bootsplash and gfxboot) o slides from John Rulnick's talk about Bay Path College linux courses Also, an early reminder about the annual WLUG BBQ , which will be held in Shrewsbury, MA USA at Doug Waud's house on Wednesday, July 21st at 6:00 PM (yes, that's 6:00 PM and its not a misprint (is it Doug??)). We will not have a meeting at WPI on this date - we'll all be at Doug's house. Oh, BTW, in years past, Doug has allowed us to use the pool, but for some reason, nobody has ever taken the plunge! This year, we need to change that. :-) No, I don't mean that Doug won't allow us to use the pool, but that we should actually *avail ourselves* of the opportunity. If you have wearable computing, be sure its waterproof. Have a great July 4th weekend ! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA4NGQHl0iXDssISsRAnYpAJ9ukXIUrkLypzdb4MEpzf/KGDHtnACfWCOr djcvaFmFf0/yaElqz6AmVx8= =KurN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Website updated...upcoming activity
by Andy Stewart June 29, 2004

June 29, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody, I've finally gotten around to updating the WLUG website - my apologies for the delay. o slides from June talk are available (bootsplash and gfxboot) o slides from John Rulnick's talk about Bay Path College linux courses Also, an early reminder about the annual WLUG BBQ , which will be held in Shrewsbury, MA USA at Doug Waud's house on Wednesday, July 21st at 6:00 PM (yes, that's 6:00 PM and its not a misprint (is it Doug??)). We will not have a meeting at WPI on this date - we'll all be at Doug's house. Oh, BTW, in years past, Doug has allowed us to use the pool, but for some reason, nobody has ever taken the plunge! This year, we need to change that. :-) No, I don't mean that Doug won't allow us to use the pool, but that we should actually *avail ourselves* of the opportunity. If you have wearable computing, be sure its waterproof. Have a great July 4th weekend ! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA4NGQHl0iXDssISsRAnYpAJ9ukXIUrkLypzdb4MEpzf/KGDHtnACfWCOr djcvaFmFf0/yaElqz6AmVx8= =KurN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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GMAIL
by Marc Hughes June 28, 2004

June 28, 2004

I got 5 invites to gmail if anyone wants them. Send an email to me (not the list). People I know get first shot, otherwise first-come, first-serve. Please only mail if you really want one and will use it.

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Linux programmer needed
by Andy Stewart June 28, 2004

June 28, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI all, I just received a request for some Linux expertise. - ------ I was wondering if you knew of any programmers (php/apache/mysql) through the WLUG who would be interested in helping me customize the opensourced medical practice and billing management program Openemr (www.synitech.com) - ------ If you are interested in this opportunity, please contact me directly and I'll send you the contact information. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA359LHl0iXDssISsRAp4cAJ9DTGbIVUA1xGHP0BA/aADtiaOFiQCfRecN rQXBnXfuMtkTNzQI5AGF09c= =n1/p -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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by sageman＠WPI.EDU June 25, 2004

June 25, 2004

Well, before seeing this email, I bought ANSI Common Lisp off amazon the other day and it just came him; reading through it now! I looked at a history of lisp somewhere (I think in a link in the Common Lisp Hypertext, of which I was directed to from reviews on amazon) and heard Scheme described as basically a Pascal equivalent of Scheme in the sense that it was designed to teach, not to use. Of course, knowing nothing about Lisp and its dialects, I believed this, having the new 1000-level CS class that teaches Scheme seem also to point in that direction; hearing your feelings concerning Scheme, however, makes it seem as though I have been misinformed (alas, the curse of the internet!). Well, I'm teaching myself Common Lisp now, anywho. The book I got was highly recommended, both as an introductory Lisp book and as a great reference for Common Lisp. The book is put out by Prentice Hall as part of there Series In Artificial Intelligence, and being that that is what drew me to teaching myself Lisp in the first place, seems like a good place to start. I'll check out one of the local university libraries here (I'm in lower Rhode Island, by the way) and see if I can pick up some of those books you've mentioned. Thank you all very much.

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Books Of Lisp
by sageman＠WPI.EDU June 25, 2004

June 25, 2004

Hi. Well, I figure since Lisp is such an important language, especially in GNU/Linux systems (favorite of Stallman afterall) I should pose this question to this group. Basically I'm interested in learning Lisp and was wondering if anyone has some favorite or recommended books that describe the syntax of Lisp. Additionally books related to introductory artificial intelligence work, with algorithms, design issues, et cetera, especially books with example Lisp code would be very welcome. Thanks. - Carlton Stedman II

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RE: [Wlug] Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell
by Simoncini, Matthew June 24, 2004

June 24, 2004

Glad I could be of assistance .. If you like Andy I could bring in a chicken-pot-pie for the next WLUG meeting ;o) -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:42 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: RE: [Wlug] Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 24 June 2004 9:55 am, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > Easy Chicken Pot Pie > > * 2 frozen pie shells > * 1 10 3/4 oz Cream of Mushroom Soup > * 1/2 cup milk > * 1 bag frozen mixed vegetables > * 2 Cups cooked chopped chicken > * 1 teaspoon minced garlic > * 1 small onion > * Coarse ground black pepper, to taste > > Preheat oven to 375 degrees. Take pie shells out of freezer, separate, > lay one pie shell flat, leaving the other in the pie pan, and thaw for > 10 minutes. Meanwhile, defrost frozen veggies in microwave, chop and > sautee onion. Mix defrosted veggies, sauteed onion, garlic, soup and > milk in large mixing bowl. Pour into pie shell, top with flattened pie > shell. Pinch edges together and poke holes in top crust. Bake for > about 30-40 minutes or until crusts are done. Now I've seen everything. :-) When PCs first came out, we were told that one good use would be to keep our recipes on them. OK, after all of these years, I have my first recipe on my hard drive due to Matt's email. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA2uhgHl0iXDssISsRAiawAJ4xIVLyiyPIDThClZAwwLqlji/ZSACfaWgR ecmNdV2KEndVl0laAZWRMik= =Xjnt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] GMAIL
by Casey Rankin June 24, 2004

June 24, 2004

I would like an invite if you could spare one? Thanks Casey >I got 5 invites to gmail if anyone wants them. > >Send an email to me (not the list). People I know get first shot, >otherwise first-come, first-serve. Please only mail if you really >want one and will use it. > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >

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RE: [Wlug] Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell
by Simoncini, Matthew June 24, 2004

June 24, 2004

Easy Chicken Pot Pie * 2 frozen pie shells * 1 10 3/4 oz Cream of Mushroom Soup * 1/2 cup milk * 1 bag frozen mixed vegetables * 2 Cups cooked chopped chicken * 1 teaspoon minced garlic * 1 small onion * Coarse ground black pepper, to taste Preheat oven to 375 degrees. Take pie shells out of freezer, separate, lay one pie shell flat, leaving the other in the pie pan, and thaw for 10 minutes. Meanwhile, defrost frozen veggies in microwave, chop and sautee onion. Mix defrosted veggies, sauteed onion, garlic, soup and milk in large mixing bowl. Pour into pie shell, top with flattened pie shell. Pinch edges together and poke holes in top crust. Bake for about 30-40 minutes or until crusts are done. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Hughes Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 4:29 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell Wow.. I've lived here for nearly a year and never thought of that. I bet it would work. See.. the wlug list solves all sorts of problems. Anyone got a good recipe for chicken pot pie? :) Thanks! -Marc On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:17:34 -0400, Al Reinhart <reinhart(a)discom.com> wrote: > > For a shipping address do: > Name > Street Address > PO Box Number > City, State, Zip > The post office (is suppose to) read the address for the bottom up, > i.e., if USPS is used it goes to the PO box, if a package shipping > company is used they have the street address. > > ---------------------------------------------- > Al Reinhart Phone: 508.869.6417 > DisCom Systems EMail: Reinhart(a)DisCom.com > www.DisCom.com > > > > Marc Hughes wrote: > > Just a small rant about the questionare for anyone out there > > creating a web based forms like this. > > > > You need to let the person know how you're going to ship whatever > > you're shipping. Some people can't get postal mail at their street > > address, but can't get UPS/FEDEX at their PO box. Luckily I > > correctly guessed my postal address :) Can't wait to see if there's > > some neato stuff in there. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:00:55 -0400, Bill Smith <wsmith(a)chezsmith.com> wrote: > > > >>On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 21:04:29 -0400 > >>Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Novell is offering a free Linux Technical Resource kit to WLUG members > >>>(and other LUGs, I'm sure). To get it, you'll need to go to their > >>>website and answer a bunch of questions. Here is the information, > >>>in case you are interested. If anybody gets one of these, I'd be > >>>curious to know what they think of it. > >> > >>Sweeet.... > >> > >>I just filled out the questionaire. the final page had this to say: > >> > >> Thank you William ! Your Linux Technical Resource Kit has been > >> successfully received. > >> We will contact you by e-mail as soon as your order ships. Delivery > >> will be made via US Postal Service, first-class mail. If you > >> have any questions on your order, please contact us. > >> > >>Ahhhh... this will be the first time i've played with SuSE since > >>around 1997. :) > >> > >>-- > >> > >>William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com > >>Fall River, MA > >> > >>"The future is known. It's the past which is always changing." > >> -- Soviet dissident joke > >> > >> > >> > >>noname - 1K > >>noname - 1K Download > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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NFS filesystem no longer mounts
by albutler33＠netscape.net June 22, 2004

June 22, 2004

Hello all, I created an NFS filesystem to export from my server, which has been working fine up til now. On my production machine, when I go to mount my NFS filesystem, I'm starting to get this error message: mount: RPC: Program not registered Does anyone know what this means? Thanks, Al Butler __________________________________________________________________ Switch to the New Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

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Wanted : Cobalt Qube 2
by J Schonberg June 16, 2004

June 16, 2004

Is there any one currently on this list who might have a Cobalt Qube 2 around that they would be willing to part with? I'm seeking a Linux based MIPS platform to experiment with and this seems to be a reasonable solution. If you happen to have one, please let me know. Thanks. Jason. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

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remote burning
by gma2004＠verizon.net June 15, 2004

June 15, 2004

Anyone know if there's a way to control a cdrw on a win98 box from my linux box? With Samba, I can mount and read any of the drives on the win box, but I want to be able to burn. How do I list this remote burner as a device in linux so that I can use it? I tried cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI, but it only looks locally. Is there some way to link a block device to a target on another machine? Don't ask why I want to do this. "Because it's there" is probably the best answer I can give. Or at least I think it's there. Maybe not. Thanks, Greg Avedissian

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RE: [Wlug] remote burning
by Keller, Tim June 15, 2004

June 15, 2004

The other kludgy solution would be to install VNC on the windows machine, copy the ISO to a windows share via samba, then just connect to the machine and run Nero/EasyCD/etc. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Brian J. Conway [mailto:bconway@alum.wpi.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 11:57 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] remote burning On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 gma2004(a)verizon.net wrote: > Anyone know if there's a way to control a cdrw on a win98 box from my > linux box? With Samba, I can mount and read any of the drives on the win > box, but I want to be able to burn. How do I list this remote burner as > a device in linux so that I can use it? > > I tried cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI, but it only looks locally. Is there > some way to link a block device to a target on another machine? > > Don't ask why I want to do this. "Because it's there" is probably the > best answer I can give. Or at least I think it's there. Maybe not. This definitely isn't what you're trying to accomplish, but if you have DirectCD or something similar installed on the Windows system (which lets you access the writeable CD like a fixed disk), you could share it with write access, and dump files onto it and manipulate it like a hard disk via Samba. The CD could then be removed and used on any system that could understand that format, which I believe is anything with DirectCD, or a Linux box with UDF support (I could be wrong, but I thought that used packet writing). You wouldn't be able to close the disc from Linux or write an ISO file like you could with something you have direct access to, though, as previously mentioned. Brian J. Conway bconway(at)alum.wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Linux kernel development project in MA
by Martin, Eric June 15, 2004

June 15, 2004

Oo.O (Openoffice.Org) to the rescue!!! -----Original Message----- From: Mike Frysinger [mailto:vapier@gentoo.org] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 3:15 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Linux kernel development project in MA On Wednesday 09 June 2004 11:49 am, ken(a)netguru-system.com wrote: > Senior Linux Kernel developer--- 5 Plus years of software development > in Linux/Unix development including systems level Unix development. > Contact Ken with resume in word format so you want a hardcore Linux developer but they also must use the MS Word format ? :) -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Dell Dimension 270GX... stuck on sound...
by Keller, Tim June 15, 2004

June 15, 2004

So, Generally, I don't ask for help in these matters, I just grind it out and figure out the problem, but I'm just stuck. I've got this nice shiny new dell here and everything works great, duel monitors, USB, gigE, the works, except for the sound. Looking in /proc/pci I see it shows the audio card as... "Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 2)." Now, it shows the card as being supported and it looks like ALSA is loading a gackle of drivers (and I checked and they've been unmuted...) yet no sound. (Yes, I did check to make sure I had the speakers plugged into the right jack...) Has anybody had any experience getting this sound card to work? Note: It is integrated... I'll continue to probe the deep waters (i.e. Google) for answers... Thanks, Tim.

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High-speed access questions
by Gregory Avedissian June 15, 2004

June 15, 2004

It seems like most of the providers say that you need windows or mac to use their DSL or cable internet. Does this just mean they won't offer tech support for linux, or does it mean that it won't work? I'm planning on using a router and having two computers connected. Has anyone had luck with linux and Verizon DSL? They're down to $35/month, and they give you the modem. Anyone know of better deals? Thanks. Greg

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generic windows printer driver for postscript?
by Bill Mills-Curran June 14, 2004

June 14, 2004

I have a windows-only (sigh) program that prints maps. It doesn't have a print-to-file option, so I add a "file" printer in windows printer setup. Can any give me a recommendation for a generic (clean) postscript printer driver? My intent is to print to a samba file share on linux and review the postscript print file with gv to select specific pages. The HP driver doesn't make nice postscript. Thanks, Bill

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CRT or LCD ?
by Andy Stewart June 14, 2004

June 14, 2004

HI all, My 9 year old Nokia 447X CRT monitor appears to be on its way out. At maximum brightness and contrast, I can't get a good picture. I'm using xgamma to crank up the colors, but that creates a washed out display. The picture size wavers and occasionally goes out of sync. I think I got my $1000 worth out of this monitor! At the risk of starting a religious war, I'm wondering if I can get some objective commentary regarding CRT vs LCD and any issues there might be with Linux. I would like a display that can do at least 1280x1024@75Hz and possibly up to 1600x1200@75Hz. I think that puts me in the 18" - 19" monitor category, which is OK with me (I have a 17" monitor now). I occasionally play games but mostly its text, websurfing, email, and some photo editing. Does the LCD quality degrade when using the VGA input vs. the DVI input (assuming that the monitor has both) ? Are there any major Linux related issues when using the DVI output of a video card ? Thanks in advance for your thoughts, opinions, flames, etc. :-) Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Reminder: Upcoming meeting
by Andy Stewart June 13, 2004

June 13, 2004

HI Everybody, This coming Thursday, June 17th, will be our next WLUG meeting, to be held at the usual place at 7:00 PM. At this meeting, we have the unusual benefit of having two speakers. First, I will give a short talk about the "bootsplash" software and how it can liven up your session while the computer boots. You can read more about it at http://www.bootsplash.org. This software has been used by the last several SuSE Linux releases, but it also works with other distributions. If you want to jazz up your computer display while the machine boots, this is the software you want to install. After that, I'll give the floor to John Rulnick, who asked to address the WLUG memebership. John's short talk will be about a weekend program he is involved with launching at Bay Path College. To quote John: === The focus [of the talk] would be on a new weekend program I'm involved with launching at Bay Path College Central Mass Center that's aimed at developing Linux-savvy sys-, net-, and database admins. I suppose there may be some potential students in WLUG, but just as likely (more likely) there may be folks interested in teaching in the program. I could talk about pretty much any aspect of the program that interests people. === I'll bring the usual soda/cookies to the meeting, and I'll put out the donation box for those folks who choose to make a small donation to WLUG. After the meeting, we'll make our pilgrimage to the Boynton Restaurant. See ya then! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Linux kernel development project in MA
by ken＠netguru-system.com June 12, 2004

June 12, 2004

Senior Linux Kernel developer--- 5 Plus years of software development in Linux/Unix development including systems level Unix development. Experience with Linux SCSI and PCI hot plug support a huge plus. 5 Months project. Any interest?? Contact Ken with resume in word format with bill rate and availability Ken Rosenfield Netguru Systems Sr. Account Representative 240 Bear Hill Road, Suite 101 Waltham, MA 02451 USA Phone:(781) 890-GURU x306 or 1-800-587-7466 x306 Cell:(781)910-1004 Fax:(781) 890-5990 Email:ken@netguru.com www.netguru.com Netguru has just released version 4.2 enterprise edition of ereview . It is a web based collaborative software , for more information on ereview , please visit www.ereviewonline.com

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email sending problem with comcast
by Andy Stewart June 11, 2004

June 11, 2004

HI all, This is driving me nuts...I still have that problem where I get intermittent failures while sending email, even after hard coding the IP number for smtp.comcast.net (they normally have 4 different IPs...I hard coded one to make debug easier). Does anybody know the SMTP protocol sufficiently that they could help me debug this problem ? I have ethereal traces - one when it works, and another when it doesn't. I see differences, but I don't know why, nor do I know what I should do as a remedy. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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RE: [Wlug] Hibernation
by Martin, Eric June 11, 2004

June 11, 2004

Ok, I'm using 2.4. Yes, ACPI is more recent than APM....I tried 2.6 once and stuff worked oddly, so I went back to 2.4 (2.4 gentoo-sources as opposed to ck-2.6 for all you gentoo buffs). Thank you all, I guess I'll have to get 2.6 working... Eric -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:30 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Hibernation On Thursday 10 June 2004 3:54 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 10 June 2004 02:53 pm, Martin, Eric wrote: > > does anybody know of a hibernate mode in linux (suspend to disk)? > > If there is, where? If there isn't, how hard is that to code? > > my ppc laptop has suppport via the hardware in 2.6 ... there's also > 'Software Suspend' and 'Suspend-to-Disk' support in 2.6 for all x86 > machines ... -mike Note that my laptop is running a 2.6 kernel and that the hibernate mode works pretty well, actually! When the user invokes the hibernate mode (suspend to disk) the software writes its info into the swap file, and then the machine powers off. When the machine is later powered on and starts to boot, a parameter is passed to the kernel which tells it to look at the swap file. If the swap file has valid "hibernate info" in it, the machine will resume that state, otherwise it will perform a normal boot sequence. I'm pretty sure I'm using ACPI, which is (I believe) a more recent standard than APM. Check to see what your hardware supports. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Hibernation
by Martin, Eric June 10, 2004

June 10, 2004

does anybody know of a hibernate mode in linux (suspend to disk)? If there is, where? If there isn't, how hard is that to code? Eric

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New meeting schedule posted
by Andy Stewart June 10, 2004

June 10, 2004

HI all, Please check the recently updated WLUG website for the meeting schedule for the next 12 months or so. Note that we'll be having our annual WLUG BBQ at Doug Waud's house on Wednesday, July 21 (weather permitting). More details forthcoming. I'm still seeing a volunteer to run the June meeting with some topic of interest. Otherwise, I'll have to cram and give a presentation about the bootsplash software, which would be tough for me to demo since VMware doesn't work on SuSE 9.1 (yet). See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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RE: Usenix Conference June 27-July 2
by albutler33＠netscape.net June 9, 2004

June 9, 2004

wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Subject: [Wlug] Fwd: Usenix Conference in Boston June 27-July 2 >Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 21:42:43 -0400 >From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > >-- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA USA >http://www.wlug.org >

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Fwd: Usenix Conference in Boston June 27-July 2
by Andy Stewart June 9, 2004

June 9, 2004

-- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Contract Web Work
by Charles A. Haines June 6, 2004

June 6, 2004

Someone posted some information on here about contract web work for Stow, Ma, and I was curious if whoever it was knew if the position had been filled, and if not, could they pass along that email to send resumes to to me? I seemed to have misplaced the email. Thanks, Chuck ====================== Charles A. Haines Contract Web Developer 3G Publishing ====================== http://www.3gpub.com ======================

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Trolling for topics for the June meeting
by Andy Stewart June 5, 2004

June 5, 2004

HI everybody, The summer months always make it tough to draw people to a WLUG meeting, and announcing a meeting without sufficient notice makes it worse. Thus, I'll start the monthly troll for topics now in the hope that we can nail down this month's topic and advertise the meeting so that we'll have a pretty good turnout. If you have topics on which you would like to address WLUG, please let me know. FYI: I'm fabricating the schedule for upcoming meetings. It should be posted shortly. FYI: I'm currently negotiating the time and place for the annual WLUG BBQ to be held in July. More news coming soon. Stay tuned! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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DEC Miata
by Andy Stewart June 4, 2004

June 4, 2004

HI everybody, Here is a DEC Miata system looking for a home. If you are interested, please contact Mike Keenan directly. -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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any ideas?
by brad June 4, 2004

June 4, 2004

Our school uses commercial library automation software. We would like to convert the database to open source. Anyone have experience doing so? Thanks, Dbn0002(a)aol.com Please send your reply to this email address.

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RE: [Wlug] any ideas?
by Keller, Tim June 2, 2004

June 2, 2004

Nope. However, I can envision how you might go about it. I did a quick look on freshmeat.net and found this application: http://ola.sourceforge.net/ <http://ola.sourceforge.net/> which looks like it might suite your needs perfectly. No sense reinventing the wheel... When you say "open source" I'm taking a broad shot in the dark that you want to setup some sort of linux based web front end with a mysql or postgres backend? The first big issue your going to have to tackle is getting the data out of the existing database. I highly doubt that this proprietary software will let you do something like export your whole catalog to a comma delimited file. If it can, then you'd be all set. However, it probably should allow you to run a report of all the volumes you've got in your library. Either way, you'll need to get your data into some sort of normalized form that you could use to populate your new database. Hope this helps... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: brad [mailto:brad0002@ameritech.net] Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 1:03 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] any ideas? Our school uses commercial library automation software. We would like to convert the database to open source. Anyone have experience doing so? Thanks, Dbn0002(a)aol.com <mailto:Dbn0002@aol.com> Please send your reply to this email address.

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RE: [Wlug] LTSP as a means of recycling old PCs...
by Martin, Eric June 2, 2004

June 2, 2004

Any body else have a problem getting to the article? Eric *********************** There's a post on Slashdot talking about LTSP... (Yeah, I posted it... <g>) The link is http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/22/223425&&mode=thread&tid=126&tid= 137&tid=163&tid=187 There's one comment that really drives the point home: #9227112 ... Anyway, I know that there was a recent WLUG meeting about LTSP, so I thought this might be of interest. -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA -----Original Message----- From: Bill Smith [mailto:wsmith@chezsmith.com] Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 8:22 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] LTSP as a means of recycling old PCs... _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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xcdroast
by Bill Mills-Curran May 28, 2004

May 28, 2004

I'm not much of a CD burner. I've used xcdroast to copy CD's, but I'm having problems getting it to use files from my hard drive. In fact, I can't even get it to look at my hard drive. What's the trick? Thanks, Bill

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Web Contractor needed
by Evans, Robert May 28, 2004

May 28, 2004

FYI: Temporary Job opportunity. If interested, please contact the person listed below directly. - Bob Evans > Subject: job desc > > The Town of Stow, MA is looking for a contractor to work on the town's web > site (www.stow-ma.gov) Required skills include PHP and mySQL, CSS and HTML. > Build web-based forms with proper security for entering data, fix bugs, add > small amount of functionality, document architecture. Begin work immediately, > up to 40 hours/week through June. > > Send resume and qualifications to Anne VanTine, 978-562-4733, stowtv(a)stow-ma.gov.

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*&(^$%^# Adaptec controller...
by Andy Stewart May 27, 2004

May 27, 2004

HI all, I have an Adaptec 29160N which for reasons unknown refused to boot my hard drive directly. I put in the DVD and that booted, which then booted the hard drive, and Linux came up. Today, I decided to fix this problem. I updated the BIOS on the 29160N, thinking that was the problem. On the computer in the cellar, it successfully booted a 4.7GB SCSI drive. Success(!), or so I thought. When I put the 29160N back into the "good" computer, it wouldn't boot from any hard drive. I suspected that the 18GB and 36 GB drives might be too new for the 29160N. To make a longer story short, if "enable booting from CD" *and* "enable booting from disk" are both simultaneously enabled, no disk booting occurs. By turning off "enable booting from CD", one can succeed in booting from a hard disk. Stupid, idiotic firmware programmer from Adaptec ought to be shot... Remember this so you don't waste 2 hrs on a rainy afternoon figuring this out. :-) Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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GNHLUG quarterly meeting to be held at USENIX Technical Conference
by Jon maddog Hall May 24, 2004

May 24, 2004

Hi, I have been thinking about having the quarterly meeting of GNHLUG down in Boston at the USENIX Technical conference. This meeting would not only be open to all members of GNHLUG, but also members of BLU (the Boston Linux User's group, www.blu.org) and the Worcester Linux User's Group (www.wlug.org) I have contacted USENIX and they have a room for us on Thursday, July 1st from 7-9 P.M. EDT. Later that evening Ted Ts'o and I will be leading a more formal Linux BoF from 9-11. Both meetings will be at the Boston Marriott Copley Place. I am arranging a speaker now, but I did want you to at least hold that evening open for what should be an interesting quarterly meeting. md -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Director Linux(R) International email: maddog(a)li.org 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association, USENIX Association (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the US and other countries.

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LTSP as a means of recycling old PCs...
by Bill Smith May 23, 2004

May 23, 2004

There's a post on Slashdot talking about LTSP... (Yeah, I posted it... <g>) The link is http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/22/223425&&mode=thread&tid=126&tid… There's one comment that really drives the point home: #9227112 ... Anyway, I know that there was a recent WLUG meeting about LTSP, so I thought this might be of interest. -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA

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Creating web content with Linux
by Andy Stewart May 22, 2004

May 22, 2004

HI everybody, I gave my "Introduction to Linux" presentation to a group of Internet professionals in Hopkinton last night (http://www.ip495.org) I was asked a question which I could not definitively answer since I am not a creator of web pages. The questions are: What tools are available on Linux for creating web content? Is there something akin to FrontPage for Linux? Sure, for simple HTML, any text editor will do. I've even used OpenOffice, but it feels crude to me (maybe I just don't know how to use it properly). GIMP could be used to create still images. Beyond that, I'm lost. Do I smell a topic for an upcoming meeting ? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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mouse scroll wheel
by Gregory Avedissian May 22, 2004

May 22, 2004

I did a new install of SuSE 8.2, and my mouse scroll wheel no longer works. Previous install was on top of 7.2. Current XF86Config mouse section is identical to the one that worked. It also works when I boot into debian. I've tried adding the imwheel command to .xinitrc, but that didn't help. Maybe I don't understand the -W option. What's a GPM fifo? Is that the script file that starts gpm? If it is, I tried that, and it didn't work, either. Also tried adding and removing gpm from run-level services. Any ideas? Thanks, Greg

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RE: [Wlug] Comcast dolts (mail server problem?)
by Keller, Tim May 21, 2004

May 21, 2004

Your theory is absolutely correct. We implement our SMTP systems in the same way. We've got 3 boxes behind a DNS round robin. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 8:53 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Comcast dolts (mail server problem?) HI all, In Kmail, when I configure the email sending parameters, I fill in "smtp.comcast.net" as instructed. In the security section, there's a selection for "check what the server supports". I do this and it returns "encryption TLS, authentication method CRAM-MD5". Well, it does this *most* of the time. Once in a while, it returns "encryption SSL". Keeping the above in mind, I periodically get errors when sending email. The error is "authentication failure". However, if I immediately resend, it goes through just fine (sometimes after repeated resends). Note also that smtp.comcast.net maps to 4 different IP addresses. My theory is that the Comcast servers are not all using the same authentication method, and when I catch one that's not setup the same as my email program, I don't authenticate and thus cannot send email. Does this theory seem reasonable? I tried to explain my theory to Comcast tech support who asked me to reboot Windows, and then complained about my unsupported email client. When I asked to speak to the system administrator for the email server, they refused. Comcast can't get into their heads that there might be an intelligent user or two using their service, and that all problems aren't the fault of the user. Sigh...any thoughts ? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Comcast dolts (mail server problem?)
by Andy Stewart May 21, 2004

May 21, 2004

HI all, In Kmail, when I configure the email sending parameters, I fill in "smtp.comcast.net" as instructed. In the security section, there's a selection for "check what the server supports". I do this and it returns "encryption TLS, authentication method CRAM-MD5". Well, it does this *most* of the time. Once in a while, it returns "encryption SSL". Keeping the above in mind, I periodically get errors when sending email. The error is "authentication failure". However, if I immediately resend, it goes through just fine (sometimes after repeated resends). Note also that smtp.comcast.net maps to 4 different IP addresses. My theory is that the Comcast servers are not all using the same authentication method, and when I catch one that's not setup the same as my email program, I don't authenticate and thus cannot send email. Does this theory seem reasonable? I tried to explain my theory to Comcast tech support who asked me to reboot Windows, and then complained about my unsupported email client. When I asked to speak to the system administrator for the email server, they refused. Comcast can't get into their heads that there might be an intelligent user or two using their service, and that all problems aren't the fault of the user. Sigh...any thoughts ? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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GPG - web of trust
by Andy Stewart May 21, 2004

May 21, 2004

HI all, I recently received an email from Jeff Moyer on the WLUG list. Kmail noted that the digital signature was valid but untrusted (I thought that feature was broken - why is it suddenly working??). I had downloaded Jeff's key from the key server. What establishes this key as trusted? Certainly, if I had signed Jeff's key myself, I would trust it, but in this case, I did not. I also don't know anybody who has signed Jeff's key. Do I need to place a personal value on keys which I've downloaded? Hypothetically, what if I downloaded it from some rogue server masquerading as the real thing? What I suspect is that if I signed Joe Blow's key, and Joe had signed Jeff Moyer's key, and I had placed a value on Joe's ability to properly verify keys, that there would be some implication about the goodness of Jeff's key. Correct? In my situation, I suspect that there are too many degrees of separation between keys which I trust and Jeff's key and its signers. How does this gap get closed? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 7, Issue 11
by Thumper May 20, 2004

May 20, 2004

Since I have no good things to say about Comcast/ATT, I refuse to say anything about that rotten, thieving company that will never get any more of my business. On the other hand I have many good things to say about RCN. Fast, not bound to specific MAC address, great uptime, IP addresses don't change very often... Grass is much greener on the RCN side of the fence. At least from my vantage point. > > I have Comcast (AT&T Broadband) in southern NH and have nothing but > > good things to say about them. In the 3 years I had them, I think I > > can count the number of outages on 1 hand and they were always very > > brief. > > > > > > > > > I've heard nothing but overwhelming complaints about Comcast. I have had > > > email contact with dozens of municipalities who use Comcast for Internet > > > service. Things like "weeks without service" is a common theme. I can't > > > remember hearing anything good about them. > > > > > > - Rob > > >

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RE: [Wlug] Comcast experiences Plug for Speakeasy.net
by Keller, Tim May 19, 2004

May 19, 2004

Does anybody on the WLUG list use Vonage? I constantly see banner ads for them, but I don't know anybody who uses them. Later, Tim. "I can not bring myself to believe that if knowledge presents danger, the solution is ignorance" - Isaac Asimov -----Original Message----- From: Josh Huber [mailto:huber@alum.wpi.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:41 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Comcast experiences Plug for Speakeasy.net Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> writes: > the trouble is that if everyone has a cellphone and thus the local > line never gets used, you have to add $30 to the price of dsl since > that's how much a local line will run you -mike Check for the no long distance, local metered plans. I had this (before I canceled my phone line) and it cost $10 from verizon. After the excessive taxes and fees, it came out to around $16, if I recall. All outgoing calls cost money, so you really only want to do this if you don't use the phone for voice... -- Josh Huber _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Charter experiences? -was:Comcast experiences ?
by Martin, Eric May 19, 2004

May 19, 2004

Um...what package did you have with Verizon / Charter? Last I checked, verizon was 49.99, and Charter only adds on $35 to your cable bill if you already have any form of cable (or it costs an extra 10 or 11 if you don't)...Granted those are base rates, but...'sides, buy the bridge, you can get one from Best Buy for $60 or less if you get rebates.... Eric -----Original Message----- From: Baris Hasdemir [mailto:penguen@hasdemir.com] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 10:22 AM To: WLUG Subject: Re: [Wlug] Charter experiences? -was:Comcast experiences ? On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 03:04, Mike Frysinger wrote: > i was talking with a guy who claimed comcast provided great cable > service in > worcester and was basically way better than anything dsl could offer (i use > speakeasy myself and love it). seeing as how he is a non-computer person, i > took his opinion with a large grain of salt ... > > it did get me wondering though as ive never used comcast in worcester > myself, > just in holden (and it sucked a lot), how have other people got along with > comcast here ? looking for the standard fare, speeds/tech support/response > times/etc... > -mike > I did not like Charter's service very much when I switched to it from Verizon DSL. Charter charges ~10 dollars more than Verizon DSL including a rent for cable modem but they gave us 2Mbits (I Think they're now giving 3Mbits) Besides the higher bandwidth, most of the time especially in the evenings I experienced latencies, if it's the right word to use. For example, I click on an ordinary link, wait for sometime and *then* it finally starts loading which is fast, of course. So I got back to Verizon again. I have 1.5Mbits and I'm fine enough. Regarding the customer support, all I can say is they did not refund anything when I canceled my subscription in 20 days. Neither the installation fee(although I had to do it myself, since there was no working version of windows) nor usage fee. baris _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Comcast experiences ?
by Mike Frysinger May 19, 2004

May 19, 2004

i was talking with a guy who claimed comcast provided great cable service in worcester and was basically way better than anything dsl could offer (i use speakeasy myself and love it). seeing as how he is a non-computer person, i took his opinion with a large grain of salt ... it did get me wondering though as ive never used comcast in worcester myself, just in holden (and it sucked a lot), how have other people got along with comcast here ? looking for the standard fare, speeds/tech support/response times/etc... -mike

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RE: [Wlug] Comcast experiences ?
by Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey) May 19, 2004

May 19, 2004

I have & like Charter... I had the same MAC problem 0->O when they typed it in. I've had less than 6 outages at an average of about day each time over the past 3 years. Tech support can take forever to get to since you call into level 1 and they ask the "is your PC plugged into the modem?" questions, but the second-level support is pretty good. Speed is good. 768K base service, but some people are getting 1.5-2 in areas that aren't limited. (My loop is pretty busy, but I still get a good connection.) jeff -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Eric Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:07 AM To: 'Worcester Linux Users Group' Subject: RE: [Wlug] Comcast experiences ? Charter's not too bad here...Sometimes their tech support is bad (but who's isn't) eg took me a week or 2 to convice them that they wrote my MAC for my bridge wrong, and that was why I couldn't get on the net...As far as speed I think it's fine. Agree? Disagree? -----Original Message----- From: Mike Frysinger [mailto:vapier@gentoo.org] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 3:06 AM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Comcast experiences ? err, replace every occurence of 'comcast' with 'charter' :) -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Comcast experiences ?
by Martin, Eric May 19, 2004

May 19, 2004

Charter's not too bad here...Sometimes their tech support is bad (but who's isn't) eg took me a week or 2 to convice them that they wrote my MAC for my bridge wrong, and that was why I couldn't get on the net...As far as speed I think it's fine. Agree? Disagree? -----Original Message----- From: Mike Frysinger [mailto:vapier@gentoo.org] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 3:06 AM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Comcast experiences ? err, replace every occurence of 'comcast' with 'charter' :) -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] SuSE 9.1
by Martin, Eric May 19, 2004

May 19, 2004

Yeah, I ran 2.6.(can't remember patch) on my laptop for a while, and `ifconfig eth0' worked fine...One cool thing is that 2.6 did get pcmcia working, although it ran dog slow with some stuff...maybe I had to recompile a bunch of apps? I'll post a few when I get to play with 2.6 again Eric -----Original Message----- From: mike(a)beakerware.net [mailto:mike@beakerware.net] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:11 PM To: Andy Stewart Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] SuSE 9.1 > 7) The network devices are a little weird in 2.6. There isn't an > "ifup eth0" > or "ifup eth1" like there used to be. On my system, its "ifup > eth-id-00:00:00:00:00:00" (fill in your MAC address). Once its up and you > see it with ifconfig, the "standard" ifdown command works as always. While I'm not 100% familiar with SuSE, does your network interface appear if you do an 'ifconfig -a' before an ifup is issued? I think its a SuSE thing, not a 2.6 thing your seeing, maybe because SuSE doesn't load the network card module until an 'ifup' is done? -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Reminder: Upcoming WLUG Meeting
by Andy Stewart May 17, 2004

May 17, 2004

Hi Everybody, Its that time again...time for our monthly WLUG meeting, which will be on Wednesday, May 19th at 7:00 PM in the usual place (see website for directions). At this meeting, our own Tim Keller will give a talk which he describes thus: ---start Tim--- Here's the title. Creating and Rendering 3D Objects in Linux using OSS tools. Here's the blurb. I'll be giving a general talk about some of the open source tools that are currently available on linux and using them to create 3D objects, scenes and animations. I'll show the pros, cons, cool features and short comings of these non commercial products. ---end Tim--- After the meeting, we'll go out for food & drink. I'm wondering if we want Mexican this month. We can decide at the meeting. See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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SuSE 9.1
by Andy Stewart May 16, 2004

May 16, 2004

HI everybody, I've received my copy of SuSE 9.1 and I've gotten it installed on my laptop. Here are my thoughts so far. 0) SuSE 9.1 comes on 2 double-sided DVDs and 5 CDs. There are 64 and 32-bit versions, so one must used the proper side of the DVD. 1) It took 2 hours to upgrade from SuSE 9.0 to SuSE 9.1 on my 1 GHz Sony Vaio laptop using the DVD. That seemed long to me. 2) It uses the 2.6.4 kernel. One new feature of that kernel caused me some temporary grief since I didn't understand what it was doing. The "subfs" filesystem type is used for removeable media. The user doesn't need to mount any CD or floppy, just put in the medium and reference it with "ls /media/ floppy" or whatever. The operating system figures out that the medium isn't mounted, mounts it, carries out your wish, and then unmounts it. Sometimes, I find this a bit annoying, but perhaps I'm just not yet used to it. 3) The ACPI power management on my laptop now actually works! Well, it works for the root user, anyway (kpowersave). I actually got about 45 minutes on a battery (instead of 10). The PCMCIA wireless card really suck the life out of the battery when used! I'm diving into the code to figure out why kpowersave won't work for J-random-user. There's probably some executable that needs setuid root or some such. I suspect I can be more agressive about power saving to get close to 60 minutes out of it. 4) I said "bye-bye" to the ide-scsi module, especially after reading some notes about Linus' opinion of that module and the author of cdrecord. Things work fine without it. 5) Sound works great after one simple command. 6) I got wireless, grub, the printer, the hard wired network, and even (I think) the onboard modem working very easily. I've never had the onboard modem working previously. 7) The network devices are a little weird in 2.6. There isn't an "ifup eth0" or "ifup eth1" like there used to be. On my system, its "ifup eth-id-00:00:00:00:00:00" (fill in your MAC address). Once its up and you see it with ifconfig, the "standard" ifdown command works as always. 8) SuSE 9.1 comes with KDE 3.2.1, with which I haven't yet played. Thunderstorm coming....singing of for now....... -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Ftp & Samba questions
by Marc Hughes May 13, 2004

May 13, 2004

Here's 2 quick questions. If I set up samba to be a domain controller. Can clients not participating in the domain still log in? What FTP server do you suggest for internal use that's low-load (5 max clients at a time) and low-maintenance? -Marc

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System won't shutdown
by Michael Long May 12, 2004

May 12, 2004

Hi, I have a computer with SuSE 9.0 installed. When I run shutdown -h now it starts the shutdown process but then hangs immediately after running /etc/init.d/halt.local2 done I can hit the carriage return and am left at the console with the system running. The relevant part of ps x at this point is. 296822 ? S 0:00 2 /bin/bash /etc/init.d/rc 0 296899 ? S 0:00 2 /bin/2sh /etc/init.d/rc0.d/S20halt start What could be preventing this machine from shutting down? Thanks, Mike

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RE: [Wlug] Need topic for May meeting
by Keller, Tim May 11, 2004

May 11, 2004

Andy, I could do a quick talk on 3d modeling with tools such as Kpovmodeler and povray on linux, if you think people might be interested in that... Hey, how's the job search going? I could see about getting your resume into the proper peoples hands if you'd be interested in that? Later, Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 5:38 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] Need topic for May meeting HI all, Well, I'm trolling for a topic for this meeting, and I'm sure that as always, we'll come up with something. Along the lines of my previous email, are there any "serious" web developers out there who would care to show us how they do it with Linux ? If not, are there volunteers in the audience who'd like to address WLUG on some topic? The floor is open..... Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Need topic for May meeting
by Andy Stewart May 10, 2004

May 10, 2004

HI all, Well, I'm trolling for a topic for this meeting, and I'm sure that as always, we'll come up with something. Along the lines of my previous email, are there any "serious" web developers out there who would care to show us how they do it with Linux ? If not, are there volunteers in the audience who'd like to address WLUG on some topic? The floor is open..... Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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windows BSOD
by Karl Hiramoto May 10, 2004

May 10, 2004

M$ windows machines: http://www.theinquirer.net/images/articles/sassa.jpg ��`��,��,��`��,��,��`��,��,��`��,��,��`�� Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 http://karl.hiramoto.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ��`��,��,��`��,��,��`��,��,��`��,��,��`��

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block devices
by gma2004＠verizon.net May 9, 2004

May 9, 2004

How do I create a block device? Specifically, how do I re-create /dev/fd0 after I accidentally obliterated it? (hint: don't use the -u option with shred when the target is a device.) Thanks, Greg Avedissian

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Re: [Wlug] Creating web content with Linux
by JONATHAN BEALL May 5, 2004

May 5, 2004

i have to agree, the closest to dreamweaver is nothing... but next best would be mozilla, coffeecup, bluefish, or even emacs. -Jonathan >From: Baris Hasdemir <penguen(a)hasdemir.com> >Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Creating web content with Linux >Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 14:58:52 -0400 > >As far as I know the application closest to Dreamweaver/FPage in kin >might be the Mozilla editor as a WYSIWYG editor. Other than that there >is also an html editor called bluefish for the gnome-looking world. and >it is "apt-get install bluefish" away :) > >baris > >On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 14:40, Chris Aniszczyk wrote: > > > The questions are: What tools are available on Linux for creating web > > > content? Is there something akin to FrontPage for Linux? > > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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traceroute troubles
by gma2004＠verizon.net April 29, 2004

April 29, 2004

I'm having trouble getting traceroutes to go out with my slick new dsl connection. The modem has a router built into it, and even with its internal firewall turned off, the only output I get from a traceroute is the router'r IP number and times, followed by 29 lines of stars. I tried shutting down the network and using my dialup account, and traceroute works fine. I know it's not the firewall on my machine, because it makes no difference if it's on or off with the dsl, and traceroute works on the dialup with the firewall running. (Yes, I did remember to change the default path in the firewall config from eth0 to ppp0) Any ideas? Is this likely to be something built into the dsl modem, or something with Verizon? Or might I have something screwed up in my network setup? I can ping my other computers and I can ping out to the internet ok. Thanks, Greg Avedissian

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ssh known_hosts
by Bill Mills-Curran April 27, 2004

April 27, 2004

I'm having a problem with known (or unknown!) hosts since changing the IP address on a server. Server info: Redhat 8.0 ssh -V: OpenSSH_3.4p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090602f Client info: Redhat 9 ssh -V: OpenSSH_3.5p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090701f When logging into the server, I'm getting the following message: RSA host key for IP address '10.14.36.204' not in list of known hosts. I've played around with ~/.ssh/known_hosts (even renaming it), but I still get the message. Looking at the documentation for the known_hosts file format (in sshd man page), my current known_hosts file, looks quite a bit different (many fields are omitted). Why do I get the message, and how do I get rid of it? TIA, Bill

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test
by gma2004＠verizon.net April 26, 2004

April 26, 2004

test

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Reminder: WLUG Meeting
by Andy Stewart April 24, 2004

April 24, 2004

HI everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Thursday, April 22, at 7:00 PM at the usual place (the Access Grid room at WPI). At this meeting, we'll be having a PGP keysigning party, as described by Chuck Anderson in an email earlier this week. I hope a few people will be there to share how they make this work from their favorite email program. I haven't been entirely successful with Kmail, but I'll share just the same. Even if you don't have a PGP key, come over anyway to learn about this technology and to chat with others. I'd also be happy to relate to you the results of the "Introduction to Linux" class which I've recently finished teaching for the Chelmsford Community Education program. I'll be teaching this class again in September, and we're currently planning a much more advanced class. Also, bring along your ideas for future meetings! Afterwards, we'll venture out for pizza and beer at the newly renovated Boynton Restaurant - you won't recognize the place! See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Free systems to good home...
by Theo Van Dinter April 23, 2004

April 23, 2004

I thought I'd throw this out and see if anyone was interested... I've got 3 machines just sitting around collecting dust that I'd like to give away. They're pretty much base-bones (case, ps, mb, cpu) although I may have some memory for the P120 and the P200 (have to check when I get home): P120, Mini-Tower P166, Full Tower P200 Overdrive, Mini-Tower If you're interested in grabbing one of these, let me know and I'll bring it along to the meeting tomorrow night. :) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "To his dog, every man is Napoleon, hence the constant popularity of dogs." - Susan Vick

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Summer Intern Job
by Karl Hiramoto April 22, 2004

April 22, 2004

For anyone that is interested in a programming job.. http://jobs.accusense.com/programmer-analyist-intern.html -- -- Karl Hiramoto karl at hiramoto dot org http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Mobile: 508.517.4819 Work: 978-425-2090

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Linux From Scratch??
by Ken Jones April 19, 2004

April 19, 2004

Have any us tried to build a Linux From Scratch? <http://lfs.oregonstate.edu/lfs/news.html> How did it go? Is there a thread on the subject? Does anyone know of a college level course which uses this as part of its lab.? Ken Jones Fitchburg, MA

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Signed e-mails and Kmail
by Andy Stewart April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

Hi all, I'm playing around with digital signatures in e-mail, and I have that working on Kmail (KDE) wnen I send the e-mail. However, when I receive a signed e-mail, Kmail isn't able to automatically check the validity of the signature (unless I sent it). Within Kmail, I click on Settings->Configure Kmail->Security and point to libgpgme.so in the Crypto Plugins tab. I select that plugin and activate it. I then click the "configure" button and try to start the certificate manager. >From the KGpgCertManager, I get an error indicating that the symbol "initialize" was not found in libkdenetwork.so.2. I'm running SuSE 9.0 Pro, Kmail 1.5.4, and KDE 3.1.4. I've scoured the net to no avail. Does anybody have this working in Kmail? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Next meeting - topic?
by Andy Stewart April 17, 2004

April 17, 2004

HI all, We have a meeting coming up on Thursday, April 22, but we have neither a topic nor a speaker. Since I am fully consumed in my job search and the layoff process, I won't be able to do a presentation this month. I am seeking a volunteer - please?? :-) Now, now, don't push and shove, I know many of you are eager for such a challenge. Please contact me by email and we can work out the details. Thanks in advance! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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How Barbaric!
by sageman＠WPI.EDU April 14, 2004

April 14, 2004

--- "Hello, I'm running gentoo with 2.6.4 kernel" 2.6.4! 2.6.5 came out, like almost a whole 9 days ago! Let's see these priorities right already and upgrade this archaic, elder kernel already! Yeah, that's definitely sleep-inside-spinlock checks though. Just run your favorite kernel configurator (make config, or make xconfig or something), and under "Kernel Hacking" uncheck the "sleep-inside-spinlock checking" box. Hope it helps ^_^ http://sageman.res.wpi.net

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Nvidia and 2.6.4
by orbitz＠ezabel.com April 13, 2004

April 13, 2004

Hello, I'm running gentoo with 2.6.4 kernel and my /var/log/messages is getting filled up with this junk: Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel Debug: sleeping function called from invalid context at mm/slab.c:1900 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel in_atomic():1, irqs_disabled():0 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel Call Trace: Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c011a1ab>] __might_sleep+0xab/0xd0 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c013d0a6>] __kmalloc+0x96/0xa0 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b7db39>] os_alloc_mem+0x5c/0x87 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b97df0>] _nv001308rm+0x10/0x28 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0cb058d>] _nv001518rm+0x7c9/0xb34 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0109588>] common_interrupt+0x18/0x20 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0c34d61>] _nv002465rm+0x81/0x420 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0c34d78>] _nv002465rm+0x98/0x420 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b8d965>] _nv001338rm+0x1d/0x24 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b7e555>] _nv005601rm+0xd/0x34 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b85c38>] _nv000858rm+0x300/0xe14 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0124bca>] run_timer_softirq+0x10a/0x1b0 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0124d5f>] do_timer+0xdf/0xf0 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c010b16d>] do_IRQ+0xfd/0x130 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0109588>] common_interrupt+0x18/0x20 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b81eed>] _nv002962rm+0x2c5/0x3b8 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b9c8a9>] _nv000899rm+0x4c9/0xf70 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b9c8bc>] _nv000899rm+0x4dc/0xf70 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0ba2df9>] _nv004363rm+0x59/0x90 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0bc05ea>] _nv005046rm+0x52/0x70 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0ba2d02>] _nv004679rm+0x1be/0x1d0 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0117fba>] wake_up_state+0x1a/0x20 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0126c31>] send_group_sig_info+0x31/0x60 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c016380b>] send_sigio_to_task+0xeb/0x100 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b8d7fe>] _nv001344rm+0x46/0x6c [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0cb545a>] _nv001480rm+0x3a/0x7c [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0163872>] send_sigio+0x52/0xf0 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0267b78>] get_device+0x18/0x30 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c02ce9c7>] uhci_submit_common+0x1f7/0x2b0 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0117fba>] wake_up_state+0x1a/0x20 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0126c31>] send_group_sig_info+0x31/0x60 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0cf912f>] _nv000176rm+0x57/0x3ec [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c018c9ac>] ext3_get_block_handle+0xac/0x360 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0138535>] mempool_alloc+0x75/0x160 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c011a5e0>] autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x50 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0138535>] mempool_alloc+0x75/0x160 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b8d965>] _nv001338rm+0x1d/0x24 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0bb2eac>] _nv005307rm+0x54/0x544 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0c6369b>] _nv001532rm+0x1f/0x28 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0c6364c>] _nv001534rm+0x20/0x28 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0c63e42>] _nv003621rm+0x1a/0x20 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0cfa708>] _nv000183rm+0x750/0x774 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0c6369b>] _nv001532rm+0x1f/0x28 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0c63e81>] _nv003619rm+0x19/0x20 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0cb29f3>] _nv003073rm+0x1b/0x30 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0cf912f>] _nv000176rm+0x57/0x3ec [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b8d7da>] _nv001344rm+0x22/0x6c [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0c637db>] _nv001556rm+0x5b/0x6c [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b8d7da>] _nv001344rm+0x22/0x6c [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0c637db>] _nv001556rm+0x5b/0x6c [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b8d7da>] _nv001344rm+0x22/0x6c [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0c637db>] _nv001556rm+0x5b/0x6c [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0c637db>] _nv001556rm+0x5b/0x6c [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0c637db>] _nv001556rm+0x5b/0x6c [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0117d1e>] recalc_task_prio+0x8e/0x1b0 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0cf912f>] _nv000176rm+0x57/0x3ec [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c03337f4>] kfree_skbmem+0x24/0x30 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c033385a>] __kfree_skb+0x5a/0xc0 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c032fc78>] sock_aio_read+0xb8/0xd0 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c015142b>] do_sync_read+0x8b/0xc0 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b9bfb1>] rm_ioctl+0x19/0x20 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b7ba08>] nv_kern_ioctl+0x4de/0x529 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b9a901>] _nv000865rm+0x3d/0x48 [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<e0b7ba78>] nv_kern_isr+0x25/0x5c [nvidia] Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0151550>] vfs_read+0xf0/0x130 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c0163f13>] sys_ioctl+0xf3/0x2a0 Apr 12 23:16:47 sentinel [<c010941b>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb It seems pretty nvidia related, and I had this rpoblem before, but updating my kernel seems to have brought it back. Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? I suppose if worst comes to worst I can try to revert back to 2.6.2 or 3. Thanks, Malcolm

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RE: [Wlug] Next meeting - topic?
by Martin, Eric April 13, 2004

April 13, 2004

I'm game -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Anderson [mailto:cra@WPI.EDU] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 5:54 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Next meeting - topic? Who wants to do a PGP Keysigning? It would involve advance preparation from everyone who would like to participate. By now I'd imagine most of you have gotten your feet wet with GnuPG :-) If not, see: http://www.wlug.org/files/pgp-slides/index.html If there is interest, please let me know in the next couple days so I can organize the procedure and send out instructions. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Verizon DSL on SuSE
by Martin, Eric April 9, 2004

April 9, 2004

I personally have my firewall configured to drop pings. If they don't know you're there, you aren't a target. Granted it doesn't keep seasoned hackers off your box, but it's one more piece of security. -----Original Message----- From: Josh Huber [mailto:huber@alum.wpi.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:50 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Verizon DSL on SuSE avedis(a)rcn.com writes: > [...] > then could surf, with download speeds up to 1.7M/s. Just curious, is that bytes or bits? (I wasn't aware of verizon offering such a fast link) > I even got my firewall working with the new connection, but two things > seems to have changed. SuSEfirewall2 was set not to accept pings, and > it looks like it's still set that way, but Gibson Research's port > scanning utility can ping me. The other thing is that before, I had to > manually enter commands > (iptables) to drop packets to port 119 to put it into "stealth" mode. > Now, I don't have to do that, as it already appears stealthed. Can > anyone explain either of these phenomena? I'm not sure why you would want to drop all pings. You'll probably find that the default firewalling rules drop some kinds of ICMP packets, but there are some which are useful to keep around. (personally, I think dropping all inbound ICMP is pretty annoying when trying to diagnose network issues...) As for port 119, this appears to be the NNTP (net news) port -- why would you be running a news server I'm not sure :) -- Josh Huber _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Verizon DSL on SuSE
by Martin, Eric April 9, 2004

April 9, 2004

Please elaborate. I know what a DDoS and DoS are, but smurf/fraggle amplication; now I'm lost. -----Original Message----- From: Frank Sweetser [mailto:fs@WPI.EDU] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:53 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Verizon DSL on SuSE On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 10:50:18AM -0400, Josh Huber wrote: > "Martin, Eric" <MartinE(a)worc.k12.ma.us> writes: > > > I personally have my firewall configured to drop pings. If they > > don't know you're there, you aren't a target. Granted it doesn't > > keep seasoned hackers off your box, but it's one more piece of > > security. > > I don't buy that argument. Two situations: How about the fact that if you don't, you're open to acting as an unwitting participant in a smurf/fraggle amplification DoS? -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Verizon DSL on SuSE
by Martin, Eric April 9, 2004

April 9, 2004

I have 0 visible services, but I still don't want people doing port scans. Why pose a target when I don't have to. There is no reason why anybody should be pinging my house. Therefore, I don't let them. Why would I enable anything to let people see me? Stardard security practice: Only allow what is *needed*, and I don't *need* anybody pinging me. If I do, I'll turn it on. Eric -----Original Message----- From: Josh Huber [mailto:huber@alum.wpi.edu] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:50 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Verizon DSL on SuSE "Martin, Eric" <MartinE(a)worc.k12.ma.us> writes: > I personally have my firewall configured to drop pings. If they don't > know you're there, you aren't a target. Granted it doesn't keep > seasoned hackers off your box, but it's one more piece of security. I don't buy that argument. Two situations: 1) You have no other internet-visible services: * What's the harm in allowing icmp echo? Who cares, unless there happens to be some vulnerable ICMP code in the kernel. I suppose that's a risk I'd be willing to take. :) 2) You have other internet-visible services: * A port scan will reveal you, regardless of ICMP responses. -- Josh Huber _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Verizon DSL on SuSE
by avedis＠rcn.com April 9, 2004

April 9, 2004

I got set up yesterday with Verizon DSL. I had to boot into windows to do the account activation, and their tech support walked me through it. Once the connection was up, I added a hub and a second computer (with XP - it's not mine, I swear) opened a browser and began surfing. Setting up DSL on SuSE 8.2 was pretty easy, considering I don't really know what I'm doing. Yast setup for a network card and dsl went smoothly. I only had to make one file edit, to designate eth0 in pppoe.conf, rebooted the computer and then could surf, with download speeds up to 1.7M/s. I even got my firewall working with the new connection, but two things seems to have changed. SuSEfirewall2 was set not to accept pings, and it looks like it's still set that way, but Gibson Research's port scanning utility can ping me. The other thing is that before, I had to manually enter commands (iptables) to drop packets to port 119 to put it into "stealth" mode. Now, I don't have to do that, as it already appears stealthed. Can anyone explain either of these phenomena? Greg

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Re: [Wlug] Verizon DSL on SuSE
by avedis＠rcn.com April 8, 2004

April 8, 2004

Josh Huber wrote: > avedis(a)rcn.com writes: > > >>[...] >>then could surf, with download speeds up to 1.7M/s. > > Just curious, is that bytes or bits? (I wasn't aware of verizon > offering such a fast link)> Bits, I think. Whatever they advertise as supplying 1.5meg down and 128k up. I'm at the bottom of the hill from the phone company, so maybe that helps. I downloaded knoppix (700MB) in a little more than an hour. > > I'm not sure why you would want to drop all pings. You'll probably > find that the default firewalling rules drop some kinds of ICMP > packets, but there are some which are useful to keep > around. (personally, I think dropping all inbound ICMP is pretty > annoying when trying to diagnose network issues...) > I don't know enough to have an answer. How many kinds of ICMP are there? The firewall config file gives three choices - # Allow (or don't) ICMP echo pings on either the firewall or the dmz from # the internet? The internet option is for allowing the DMZ and the internal # network to ping the internet. FW_ALLOW_PING_FW="no" FW_ALLOW_PING_DMZ="no" FW_ALLOW_PING_EXT="no" I understand that the first two determine whether the firewall or the dmz respond to pings from the internet, but I'm not sure what the third option does. I am able to ping out to the internet, even though it's set to 'no', so I don't understand the last comment. > As for port 119, this appears to be the NNTP (net news) port -- why > would you be running a news server I'm not sure :) > Woops. I meant port 113, identd/auth. Thanks, Greg

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RE: [Wlug] Re: WLUG IRC anywhere?
by Martin, Eric April 8, 2004

April 8, 2004

That's where I am now. Heck I'll even settle for being able to coax it out of the user, along with processor and RAM info...but some people you can't even get that far. (Yes all my windows are closed, it's Winter!!!) Eric -----Original Message----- From: Bill Smith [mailto:wsmith@chezsmith.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:29 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Re: WLUG IRC anywhere? On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:06:51 -0400 "Martin, Eric" <MartinE(a)worc.k12.ma.us> wrote: > Here Here!!! Granted I've gotten into a debate with a friend of mine and > have slowly came to the conclusion that not everybody needs to know > *everything* about a computer to work one, but directories and applications > are a good start :) Worst one is when you ask and aol user for their email > addy, and they tell you HappyGoLucky127 (generally you can just assume the > @aol.com) I'll take that.... trying to know the why's and wherefore's of a computer before using one is like trying to know the intimate details of how a car works before driving one. all i ask from a user is that s/he know enough about the system they are using so that if i ask "what OS are you using?", i don't get a blank look. (i've gotten a lot of them, believe me.) -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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WLUG IRC anywhere?
by Bob George April 7, 2004

April 7, 2004

Just wondering if there's a WLUG IRC channel or similar about? - Bob

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RE: [Wlug] Re: WLUG IRC anywhere?
by Martin, Eric April 7, 2004

April 7, 2004

Here Here!!! Granted I've gotten into a debate with a friend of mine and have slowly came to the conclusion that not everybody needs to know *everything* about a computer to work one, but directories and applications are a good start :) Worst one is when you ask and aol user for their email addy, and they tell you HappyGoLucky127 (generally you can just assume the @aol.com) Eric -----Original Message----- From: orbitz(a)ezabel.com [mailto:orbitz@ezabel.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:12 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Re: WLUG IRC anywhere? Having tried to fix many peoples Windows XP installs I find XP very unmanagable. The guts (generally what I need to fix) is so hidden from the user in an attempt to keep up the facade of 'ease of use' it's a PITA to get around just to fix a screwy network connection. How many windows users don't even know what a directory is? I don't call that ease of use, merely keeping them ignorant. It's a sad state of computer use:) On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:51:56 -0400 Bill Smith <wsmith(a)chezsmith.com> wrote: > On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 08:43:57 -0400 > Bob George <mailings02(a)ttlexceeded.com> wrote: > > > Hey, at least there's not some kid constantly griping that Windows > > was > > so much easier (what happened to the Phoenix LUG channel - now #plugaz). > > I often find myself sighing at the "Windows is easier" crowd. i want > to educate them to what is available to them, to show them that > "easier" does not necessarily mean "best for the job". Easier might > be just that (easy), but it sometimes means making the wrong choice. > > If a person wants to favor an operating system simply because it's > "easy", then that person deserves all the resulting heartache s/he > gets. often, the person looking for "easy" will think "ease of use" > instead of "ease to get going without immediate worry"... If that > became a major concern instead, I think we would see a decided shift > towards unix variants. Sure, Win* might be easy to USE, but if you > want it networked, there's a bit of know-how and effort involved to > make it SECURE. (that could probably be said for any OS, but it is > more true for Win* than for many others.) > > > A lot of LUG channels are largely idle, but I tend to lurk and > > occasionally there are some gems worth waiting for. > > :) granted. can't argue that one. > > -- > > William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com > Fall River, MA > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem
by Martin, Eric April 7, 2004

April 7, 2004

He has a router in between, shouldn't have anything to do with your ISP. Can you ping your router? Also, is it possible that your routers ip isn't 192.168.1.x? Maybe you did a firmware upgrade? -----Original Message----- From: aramico(a)duahati.com [mailto:aramico@duahati.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:47 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem Still get this problem ? Try to call your ISP and ask him to reset the settting. It ussualy happens if you change the operating system between Windows and Unix/Linux. But, it ussually works fine too if you change the computer and or the operating system to Windows too, but not for other :(( After resetting, it should be fine. Regards, Aramico > Joel Young wrote: > >> I just replaced Windows XP with RedHat 9 on one of my machines at >> home. My problem is that I can't connect to the network. If I >> specify DHCP and then try to connect I don't get any responses from >> my DHCP server and 'eth0' won't activate. If I specify a static IP >> address (i.e. >> 192.168.1.2) then 'eth0' will activate but I still can't get out on the >> network, event to ping. >> >> My network configuration consists of a Netgear 10/100 Wireless Router >> connected to a Cable Modem, with a Linksys Router/Switch to the >> Netgear Router to expand my ports. I've been running fine from all >> my XP Desktops through this configuration using DHCP. >> >> Any ideas would be appreciated. > > Joel, > > Include your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and your > /etc/sysconfig/network files in an email so we can see what they look > like. > > -- > Dwight A. Ernest, dwight at significant dot com GPG key A6999567 > Cell: +1-508-523-1416 FAX: +1-978-405-2504 YIM: dwight_ernest > RHCE #803004293310030 http://significant.com/~dwight/ KA2CNN > Papa, partner, pilot, net geek, sysadmin, consultant, cohouser. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Re: WLUG IRC anywhere?
by Keller, Tim April 6, 2004

April 6, 2004

I generally find that linux irc channels fall into two categories. 1. Neophytes + Zealots (of windows and linux) duking it out online 2. Elitists discussing highly esoteric topics such as altering disk timing performance via hot kernel patches to /proc/kmem I'll take category 2 any day, generally through lurking I'll learn something. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Bob George [mailto:mailings02@ttlexceeded.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 11:00 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Re: WLUG IRC anywhere? Bill Smith wrote: > [...] I often find myself sighing at the "Windows is easier" crowd. > i want to educate them to what is available to them, to show them > that "easier" does not necessarily mean "best for the job". Easier > might be just that (easy), but it sometimes means making the wrong > choice. For our poor little IRC channel, it was particularly bad. This kid had joined the LUG list, and offered to do all kinds of web development etc. with the hopes he'd get some free advertising for his "big business venture." No problem there, but he proceeded to rant on-list about wanting to use ASP etc., arguing against open-source content management tools as "boring." That carried over to the IRC channel, and he'd essentially scare off any potential Linux converts with his lousy attitude. > If a person wants to favor an operating system simply because it's > "easy", then that person deserves all the resulting heartache s/he > gets. often, the person looking for "easy" will think "ease of use" > instead of "ease to get going without immediate worry"... There was a great post a few years back (forgot which list) comparing web development using front page to the (original, good) Matrix movie precept. It got into the "warm, wet, comfortable goo" of FP, and how long and painful it was extricating himself and his code. Although it fit apple better in years previous, I think "Freedom From Choice" is what a lot of people want (with apologies to Devo). > If that > became a major concern instead, I think we would see a decided shift > towards unix variants. Sure, Win* might be easy to USE, but if you > want it networked, there's a bit of know-how and effort involved to > make it SECURE. (that could probably be said for any OS, but it is > more true for Win* than for many others.) We'd best watch it, or they'll start mandating the equivalent of seatbelt and helmet laws for computers. I agree that users should be responsible, but I don't want the government dictating how "safe" software should be developed. I like the idea of an INFORMED user base. - Bob _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] question
by Charles R. Anderson April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 03:21:32PM -0400, John Sawyer wrote: > not sure if ive asked this, but i am unsure of how to uninstall > something taht i have compiled in, such as gaim, through a .tar.gz > ext... i also want to uninstall netscape, i downloaded the newest ver > but it gives me crap about somethingapp being in the dir already, any > ideas? You usually have to just find all the files and delete them. When you install stuff by compiling tar.gz yourself, there is usually no package management for easy uninstallation. Netscape probably installed to /usr/local/netscape* or something like that.

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Re: High-speed access questions
by dancro.net＠comcast.net April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

Note to moderator - I am registered with email address wlug(a)dancro.net but have email forwarded to this comcast account, from which I am sending this reply. Dan Crooks ------------------------------- Brian, I am running Mandrake 9.2 and Win2K on a Dell Dimension in dual boot mode. Have used Win2K on a Comcast cable connection for 5 months. Comcast installer told me that they assumed I would be connecting with Windoze and Internet Explorer, which I did. But... I have since installed Mandrake 9.2. Installation was effortless and most importantly for this discussion, Mandrake found and connected with the cable modem on the LAN with no problem. I now use 9.2 and Galeon or Mozilla to surf the web. I share the LAN connection, without incident or effort, with my wife's XP Pro machine. Dan Crooks wlug(a)dancro.net > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: High-speed access questions (Brian J. Conway) > 2. Re: High-speed access questions (Gregory Avedissian) > 3. Re: High-speed access questions (Mike Frysinger) > 4. RedHat 9 Network Problem (Joel J. Young) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:37:43 -0500 > From: "Brian J. Conway" <bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] High-speed access questions > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <20040331183743.0858c05e.bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Not true (entirely). What Comcast does now is direct all requests from an > unauthorized modem to a Comcast web page that you enter your info in and > it authorized the MAC address on your modem. Before that with AT&T > Broadband, I called up support, told them I had an unsupported OS and > asked them to enable my modem for use on their network. They asked for my > various information, and 5 minutes later, everything worked. > > But yes, using the Windows program was probably the easiest way. > Fortunately, now anyone with a browser can set things up. > > Brian > > On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:27:49 -0500 (EST) > gboyce(a)badbelly.com wrote: > > > On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > > > > > It seems like most of the providers say that you need windows or mac > > > to use their DSL or cable internet. Does this just mean they won't > > > offer tech support for linux, or does it mean that it won't work? I'm > > > planning on using a router and having two computers connected. > > > > When I signed up for a AT&T cable modem (before Comcast bought them), it > > > > was actually impossible to enable your cable modem from within Linux. > > There was a windows program to do the initial setup. After you get past > > > > that point, Linux would work with it fine. > > > > I luckily had a Windows partition on the machine at the time. > > > > I'm hoping that Comcast doesn't have this same problem for new users, > > but issues like that are a possibility. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:50:56 -0500 > From: Gregory Avedissian <avedis(a)rcn.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] High-speed access questions > To: douglas.waud(a)umassmed.edu, Worcester Linux Users Group > <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <406B6770.1000401(a)rcn.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Thanks to all who answered on this one. I called Verizon to ask them > about linux, and the person I spoke to had never heard of it. He did > manage to spell it right the first time, put me on hold and went to talk > to someone else who said that it does work. I also switched my phone > plan, and I'm saving $5/month on the DSL and another $5/month on my long > distance. > > I probably will have questions about this when I try to set it up. This > will be my first attempt at networking. OK, I thought of one already. > I'm running linux, and housemate is running XP. Will each OS just deal > with the router, or do I need special software to interact with a > windows box? > > Greg > > > doug waud wrote: > > Hi > > > > Gregory Avedissian wrote: > > > >> It seems like most of the providers say that you need windows or mac > >> to use their DSL or cable internet. Does this just mean they won't > >> offer tech support for linux, or does it mean that it won't work? I'm > >> planning on using a router and having two computers connected. > > > > > > I have dealt with 3 cable companies. > > > > The first, the local Shrewsbury Cable company wanted a Windows box so > > their installer could prove/test that the system was working. This is a > > reasonable position; if you don't draw the line tightly you'll end up > > dealing with the customer-from-hell and just run up expenses. > > Incidentally, the guy who came to my house played with Linux at home so > > the atmosphere was cordial but beside the point since I had a windows > > notebook for the initial test (and then just reconnected cables once he > > was out the door. > > > > The second was for my daughter in Southboro. There the cable was > > Charter. Again, I just had a windows notebook available in the cellar > > where the cable came in and the cable modem would lie. As with the > > Shrewsbury cable company the service guy just wanted to confirm that the > > signal was working and again, I just reconnected cables once he was out > > the door. > > > > The third was Adelphia up at our cottage in NH. This time I did not get > > to the notebook stage. I just looked over the service man's shoulder > > while he installed the signal separator (ethernet/tv) and waved goodbye. > > I then ran a cable into the house to the cable modem (this time I bought > > it; cheaper route) and from there to a firewall/router. > > > > In all cases most computers are running Linux (my wife still has a > > Windows box for games) and all work fine. Once the signal gets out of > > the cable modem to your router, the os of the connected computers will > > make no difference. > > > > I cannot comment on phone help from any of the three companies since I > > have never needed it. I would not expect them to deal with Linux since > > that would not be cost-effective. On the other hand, this list is an > > alternative that will trump a low paid telephone responder any time :-) > > > > Get the modem in (and have a windows machine available) and then connect > > your router and see if you can ping the router etc. If you run into a > > problem get in touch with the list (or me directly if you wish). > > > > doug > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:07:53 -0500 > From: Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] High-speed access questions > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <200403312007.53122.vapier(a)gentoo.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Wednesday 31 March 2004 07:50 pm, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > > I probably will have questions about this when I try to set it up. This > > will be my first attempt at networking. OK, I thought of one already. > > I'm running linux, and housemate is running XP. Will each OS just deal > > with the router, or do I need special software to interact with a > > windows box? > > nope ... just get a hub and plug all the machines into it (dont plug into the > Uplink port though :D) > > on the router, if you run dhcp / nat / dns and setup the dhcp to give out all > the right values, all the machines should know what to do > -mike > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:25:53 -0500 > From: "Joel J. Young" <joel(a)jyng.com> > Subject: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem > To: <Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <000501c41799$0a23ccd0$0400a8c0@PALEALE> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Here are the requested files: > > Ifcfg-eth0: > # Lite-On|LNE100TX > DEVICE=eth0 > ONBOOT=yes > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > HWADDR=FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF > USERCTL=no > PEERDNS=yes > TYPE=Ethernet > NETMASK=255.255.255.0 > IPADDR=192.168.0.2 > GATEWAY=192.168.0.1 > > > Modules.conf: > alias usb-controller usb-uhci > alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1 > post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L > >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S > >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > alias eth0 tulip > > > network: > NETWORKING=yes > HOSTNAME= > > > Output of /sbin/lspci -vv - Non network devices removed to pass 40k > post filter > > 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev > 20) > Subsystem: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX > Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- > ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- > Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR+ > Latency: 32 > Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9 > Region 0: I/O ports at 8800 [disabled] [size=256] > Region 1: Memory at d5800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] > [size=256] > Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=256K] > > ...... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Charles R. Anderson > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:21 AM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 10:13:15AM -0500, Dwight A. Ernest wrote: > > Include your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and your > > /etc/sysconfig/network files in an email so we can see what they look > like. > > Also include /etc/modules.conf and the Ethernet card entry from the > "/sbin/lspci -vv" output. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >

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RE: [Wlug] question
by Martin, Eric April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

Whereis is a good commmand for that. Do whereis netscape Or whereis netscapex (with your version number. Finds binary, man stuff, etc for files..check man whereis for more info Eric -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Anderson [mailto:cra@WPI.EDU] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:53 AM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] question On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 03:21:32PM -0400, John Sawyer wrote: > not sure if ive asked this, but i am unsure of how to uninstall > something taht i have compiled in, such as gaim, through a .tar.gz > ext... i also want to uninstall netscape, i downloaded the newest ver > but it gives me crap about somethingapp being in the dir already, any > ideas? You usually have to just find all the files and delete them. When you install stuff by compiling tar.gz yourself, there is usually no package management for easy uninstallation. Netscape probably installed to /usr/local/netscape* or something like that. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Good HowTo
by Martin, Eric April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

Anybdoy know of a good howto for setting up a home mail server? Gentoo has a Virtual mailserver how to, but that's not what I'm looking for. I own two domains, and I want to have email from those domains delivered to my server. I have Postfix in mind, I've heard it's pretty easy but I'm obviously not set on it. I'd also like to include spamassassin, and antivirus (clamav probaly...) Thanks Eric

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ACM Installfest reminder
by Ryan Caron April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

The ACM is having an Installfest this Sunday in Higgins Lab 116 from 3 to 7 PM. If you have any questions please feel free to email me or the officers list at acm(a)wpi.edu Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary

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messages awaiting moderator approval - Suspicious Head
by Joel Young April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

I keep getting my messages being held up for moderator approval due to a suspicious header. Anyone know why this might be? I'd like to get this solved, and I'm sure the moderator doesn't want to keep approving my messages. Joel joel(a)Jyng.com

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RedHat 9 Network Problem
by Joel J. Young April 1, 2004

April 1, 2004

Here are the requested files: Ifcfg-eth0: # Lite-On|LNE100TX DEVICE=eth0 ONBOOT=yes BOOTPROTO=dhcp HWADDR=FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF USERCTL=no PEERDNS=yes TYPE=Ethernet NETMASK=255.255.255.0 IPADDR=192.168.0.2 GATEWAY=192.168.0.1 Modules.conf: alias usb-controller usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1 post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || : alias eth0 tulip network: NETWORKING=yes HOSTNAME= Output of /sbin/lspci -vv - Non network devices removed to pass 40k post filter 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 20) Subsystem: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR+ Latency: 32 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9 Region 0: I/O ports at 8800 [disabled] [size=256] Region 1: Memory at d5800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=256] Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=256K] ...... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Charles R. Anderson Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:21 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 10:13:15AM -0500, Dwight A. Ernest wrote: > Include your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and your > /etc/sysconfig/network files in an email so we can see what they look like. Also include /etc/modules.conf and the Ethernet card entry from the "/sbin/lspci -vv" output. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem
by Martin, Eric April 1, 2004

April 1, 2004

Also, you might want to remove the HARDWARE line from that file. It should just use the mac from your network card. Maybe the router doesn't want to assign FF:FF:FF...a mac address? Eric -----Original Message----- From: Joel J. Young [mailto:joel@jyng.com] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:23 AM To: 'Worcester Linux Users Group' Subject: RE: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem I tried using both static and dynamic IPs. Neigther worked. It's possible there's remnants of that testing left. Everything on my local network is in the 192.168.0.x address space. No, I changed the address of the router back to the default, which is 192.168.0.1 -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Eric Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:47 AM To: 'Worcester Linux Users Group' Subject: RE: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem I haven't worked with RH for a while, bu you have both dhcp and a hardcoded address here. Also, there's your problem, if I'm reading this right. You're set to 192.168.0.2 with a 255.255.255.0 mask. That means you can only see 192.168.0.x machines, and your router is 192.168.1.x, right? -----Original Message----- From: Joel J. Young [mailto:joel@jyng.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:26 PM To: Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem Here are the requested files: Ifcfg-eth0: # Lite-On|LNE100TX DEVICE=eth0 ONBOOT=yes ** BOOTPROTO=dhcp ** HWADDR=FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF USERCTL=no PEERDNS=yes TYPE=Ethernet ** NETMASK=255.255.255.0 ** IPADDR=192.168.0.2 GATEWAY=192.168.0.1 Modules.conf: alias usb-controller usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1 post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || : alias eth0 tulip network: NETWORKING=yes HOSTNAME= Output of /sbin/lspci -vv - Non network devices removed to pass 40k post filter 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 20) Subsystem: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR+ Latency: 32 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9 Region 0: I/O ports at 8800 [disabled] [size=256] Region 1: Memory at d5800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=256] Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=256K] ...... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org <mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org> ] On Behalf Of Charles R. Anderson Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:21 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 10:13:15AM -0500, Dwight A. Ernest wrote: > Include your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and your > /etc/sysconfig/network files in an email so we can see what they look like. Also include /etc/modules.conf and the Ethernet card entry from the "/sbin/lspci -vv" output. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug <http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug>

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RE: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem
by Martin, Eric April 1, 2004

April 1, 2004

I haven't worked with RH for a while, bu you have both dhcp and a hardcoded address here. Also, there's your problem, if I'm reading this right. You're set to 192.168.0.2 with a 255.255.255.0 mask. That means you can only see 192.168.0.x machines, and your router is 192.168.1.x, right? -----Original Message----- From: Joel J. Young [mailto:joel@jyng.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:26 PM To: Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem Here are the requested files: Ifcfg-eth0: # Lite-On|LNE100TX DEVICE=eth0 ONBOOT=yes ** BOOTPROTO=dhcp ** HWADDR=FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF USERCTL=no PEERDNS=yes TYPE=Ethernet ** NETMASK=255.255.255.0 ** IPADDR=192.168.0.2 GATEWAY=192.168.0.1 Modules.conf: alias usb-controller usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1 post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || : alias eth0 tulip network: NETWORKING=yes HOSTNAME= Output of /sbin/lspci -vv - Non network devices removed to pass 40k post filter 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 20) Subsystem: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR+ Latency: 32 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9 Region 0: I/O ports at 8800 [disabled] [size=256] Region 1: Memory at d5800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=256] Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=256K] ...... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org <mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org> ] On Behalf Of Charles R. Anderson Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:21 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 10:13:15AM -0500, Dwight A. Ernest wrote: > Include your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and your > /etc/sysconfig/network files in an email so we can see what they look like. Also include /etc/modules.conf and the Ethernet card entry from the "/sbin/lspci -vv" output. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug <http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug>

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RE: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...
by Keller, Tim April 1, 2004

April 1, 2004

I'd also like to recommend www.bookpool.com as well, for a couple of reasons! Firstly, it's a great bookstore. I purchased an o'reilly book and the book + shipping was less than the price on the back of the book! Secondly, my friend and a fellow WLUGger (Marc Hughes) works for bookpool! Later, Tim. There's nothing wrong with a man that a Playstation 2 and a copy of Vice City can't cure. -- Penny Arcade -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Kinz [mailto:jkinz@kinz.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:25 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store... On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 12:10:44AM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Monday 08 March 2004 11:59 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 11:42:44PM -0500, Michael Kingsbury wrote: > > > to Softpro once.... cover price gets old. > > > > Don't WLUG members get 10% off? I seem to remember going there and > > having to decide over the WBUR, WGBH, and iirc, WLUG discounts. > > Yes, there is a discount on many items for WLUG members. I'm not sure of the > percentage, but I think its 10%. > > > > > There's just something about walking into a store and seeing every ORA > > book right there. ;) http://www.bookpool.com - all the ORA books, always 25% to 45% off -All the time. Sofpro was nice to have around for emergencies but if you can wait 3-4 days for a book, I always go to bookpool. Cheaper and wider selection. (darned hard to read a few pages before buying tho'... :) ) They are located in vineyard haven. IIRC -- Jeff Kinz, Open-PC, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. "jkinz(a)kinz.org" is copyright 2003. Use is restricted. Any use is an acceptance of the offer at http://www.kinz.org/policy.html. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem
by Martin, Eric April 1, 2004

April 1, 2004

MAC filter maybe? -----Original Message----- From: Joel J. Young [mailto:joel@jyng.com] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:07 AM To: 'Worcester Linux Users Group' Subject: RE: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem Here it is: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:2490342 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Interrupt:9 I'm suspicious about the HWaddr too, but I don't know why it wouldn't be picking up the MAC address. > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org > [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Charles R. Anderson > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:41 PM > To: Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] RedHat 9 Network Problem > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 10:25:53PM -0500, Joel J. Young wrote: > > # Lite-On|LNE100TX > > DEVICE=eth0 > > ONBOOT=yes > > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > > HWADDR=FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF > > The HWADDR here looks wrong. Can you post the output of: > > /sbin/ifconfig eth0 > > The HWaddr listed there should be what you set HWADDR= to in > ifcfg-eth0. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] High-speed access questions
by Martin, Eric April 1, 2004

April 1, 2004

Its TCP/IP. No software needed. Your linux box and XP box will get to the router the same way, via TCP/Ip, just like if you were plugged into your work network. Set your router to DHCP, set your clients to DHCP, and enjoy the bandwidth. Eric -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@rcn.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:51 PM To: douglas.waud(a)umassmed.edu; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] High-speed access questions Thanks to all who answered on this one. I called Verizon to ask them about linux, and the person I spoke to had never heard of it. He did manage to spell it right the first time, put me on hold and went to talk to someone else who said that it does work. I also switched my phone plan, and I'm saving $5/month on the DSL and another $5/month on my long distance. I probably will have questions about this when I try to set it up. This will be my first attempt at networking. OK, I thought of one already. I'm running linux, and housemate is running XP. Will each OS just deal with the router, or do I need special software to interact with a windows box? Greg doug waud wrote: > Hi > > Gregory Avedissian wrote: > >> It seems like most of the providers say that you need windows or mac >> to use their DSL or cable internet. Does this just mean they won't >> offer tech support for linux, or does it mean that it won't work? I'm >> planning on using a router and having two computers connected. > > > I have dealt with 3 cable companies. > > The first, the local Shrewsbury Cable company wanted a Windows box so > their installer could prove/test that the system was working. This is a > reasonable position; if you don't draw the line tightly you'll end up > dealing with the customer-from-hell and just run up expenses. > Incidentally, the guy who came to my house played with Linux at home so > the atmosphere was cordial but beside the point since I had a windows > notebook for the initial test (and then just reconnected cables once he > was out the door. > > The second was for my daughter in Southboro. There the cable was > Charter. Again, I just had a windows notebook available in the cellar > where the cable came in and the cable modem would lie. As with the > Shrewsbury cable company the service guy just wanted to confirm that the > signal was working and again, I just reconnected cables once he was out > the door. > > The third was Adelphia up at our cottage in NH. This time I did not > get > to the notebook stage. I just looked over the service man's shoulder > while he installed the signal separator (ethernet/tv) and waved goodbye. > I then ran a cable into the house to the cable modem (this time I bought > it; cheaper route) and from there to a firewall/router. > > In all cases most computers are running Linux (my wife still has a > Windows box for games) and all work fine. Once the signal gets out of > the cable modem to your router, the os of the connected computers will > make no difference. > > I cannot comment on phone help from any of the three companies since I > have never needed it. I would not expect them to deal with Linux since > that would not be cost-effective. On the other hand, this list is an > alternative that will trump a low paid telephone responder any time :-) > > Get the modem in (and have a windows machine available) and then > connect > your router and see if you can ping the router etc. If you run into a > problem get in touch with the list (or me directly if you wish). > > doug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] High-speed access questions
by Martin, Eric April 1, 2004

April 1, 2004

One thing, Remember to reboot your brigde (cable modem) after you install the router. It attatches to the mac address of what it's plugged into, and you need to reboot to have it grab the MAC of your router. Eric -----Original Message----- From: doug waud [mailto:douglas.waud@umassmed.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 6:53 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] High-speed access questions Hi Gregory Avedissian wrote: > It seems like most of the providers say that you need windows or mac > to > use their DSL or cable internet. Does this just mean they won't offer > tech support for linux, or does it mean that it won't work? I'm planning > on using a router and having two computers connected. I have dealt with 3 cable companies. The first, the local Shrewsbury Cable company wanted a Windows box so their installer could prove/test that the system was working. This is a reasonable position; if you don't draw the line tightly you'll end up dealing with the customer-from-hell and just run up expenses. Incidentally, the guy who came to my house played with Linux at home so the atmosphere was cordial but beside the point since I had a windows notebook for the initial test (and then just reconnected cables once he was out the door. The second was for my daughter in Southboro. There the cable was Charter. Again, I just had a windows notebook available in the cellar where the cable came in and the cable modem would lie. As with the Shrewsbury cable company the service guy just wanted to confirm that the signal was working and again, I just reconnected cables once he was out the door. The third was Adelphia up at our cottage in NH. This time I did not get to the notebook stage. I just looked over the service man's shoulder while he installed the signal separator (ethernet/tv) and waved goodbye. I then ran a cable into the house to the cable modem (this time I bought it; cheaper route) and from there to a firewall/router. In all cases most computers are running Linux (my wife still has a Windows box for games) and all work fine. Once the signal gets out of the cable modem to your router, the os of the connected computers will make no difference. I cannot comment on phone help from any of the three companies since I have never needed it. I would not expect them to deal with Linux since that would not be cost-effective. On the other hand, this list is an alternative that will trump a low paid telephone responder any time :-) Get the modem in (and have a windows machine available) and then connect your router and see if you can ping the router etc. If you run into a problem get in touch with the list (or me directly if you wish). doug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Re: Good HowTo
by Martin, Eric March 31, 2004

March 31, 2004

I def know what you mean with the Inet not being friendly anymore...I'm trying to explain to clients and co-workers alike that you can get an virus just by browsing a website...when Is M$ gonna patch that horrible browswer of theirs anyway?!!?!? So firewall is step 1. that I'm prob gonna test in house first, then expose it (complete with jail ;) ) -----Original Message----- From: Bob George [mailto:mailings02@ttlexceeded.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:52 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Re: Good HowTo Martin, Eric wrote: > A large part of it is the learning, that's one of the things that got > me into comptuers in the first place. I know it sounds crazy, but I > want to deal with the headaches of a mailserver, and possibly 2 DNS > servers if I can run them. Basically it comes down to wanting the > expirience of bringing up a mail server and dealing with real > problems... That's a great approach, but do appreciate that in making some early mistakes, you can easily wind up with your system used to relay spam en-masse, or worse. I would recommend a slow and thorough approach, along with a fail-back option if something doesn't work as expected. Get the firewall working and tested as step 1. Have someone knowledgeable help with testing as you go. Unfortunately, the 'net has become a dangerous place for learning these days, and mistakes are quickly exploited. Or you could simply never make mistakes. :) - Bob _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Re: Good HowTo
by Martin, Eric March 31, 2004

March 31, 2004

Cool, thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Josh Huber [mailto:huber@alum.wpi.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:00 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Re: Good HowTo "Martin, Eric" <MartinE(a)worc.k12.ma.us> writes: > A large part of it is the learning, that's one of the things that got > me into comptuers in the first place. I know it sounds crazy, but I > want to deal with the headaches of a mailserver, and possibly 2 DNS > servers if I can run them. Basically it comes down to wanting the > expirience of bringing up a mail server and dealing with real > problems... Well, depending on your ISP 'situation', something like this might be nice: http://www.dyndns.org/services/pricing/index.html#mailhop I use dyndns' backup MX service, in case my connection goes down. They spool for up to 10 days, I believe. -- Josh Huber _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Re: Good HowTo
by Martin, Eric March 31, 2004

March 31, 2004

A large part of it is the learning, that's one of the things that got me into comptuers in the first place. I know it sounds crazy, but I want to deal with the headaches of a mailserver, and possibly 2 DNS servers if I can run them. Basically it comes down to wanting the expirience of bringing up a mail server and dealing with real problems... -----Original Message----- From: Bob George [mailto:mailings02@ttlexceeded.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:14 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Re: Good HowTo Martin, Eric wrote: > [...] I own two domains, and I want to have email from those domains > delivered to my server. The first question is: will your provider allow incoming smtp to your address? If so, you can set up MX pointers to your server... unless it's dynamic. In which case, you could set up with one of the dynamic dns providers, and update it with a short TTL. In which case, everything shulud work, although some systems will reject (RBL) mail originating from your address simply because it IS dynamic. Back in Phoenix, I was set up (with Cox as my provider) with a server at the house directly accepting mail from outside. It was great fun, but due to the worm/virus outbreaks, and various threats from the community at large, they began blocking inbound smtp, and eventually outbound as well. While this was certainly aggravating at the time, and I was annoyed they didn't bother to NOTIFY me of this change, in hindsight it's probalby just as well. I wound up going with a $2/mo. offsite hosting outfit, and have to say my aggravation levels are greatly reduced (not to mention I can down my server and not worry about losing stuff... a real advantage while moving last summer.) It's also nice now that I'm experiencing the not-quite-so-steady power in my new home area. Mail for my domains goes to the hosted server (my MX), and I pull it down at regular (5 min.) intervals using fetchmail via POP3. I run postfix locally, but relay through my provider's (charter) smtp server for outbound to avoid sudden surprises if ToS changes. I've got accounts on the hosted server for my users (family), plus a "wildcard" that I can use to break things out locally via aliases. It's not as sexy as having incoming mail handled directly, but mail for my domains "is delivered to my server" for local reading via POP/IMAP, and I do have control over the local outbound (smtp). I don't have spammers knocking at my server constantly, and I have to admit I don't miss the headaches of an exposed server (though the learning was fun). I'm not sure if that's what you had in mind, but it does work well. > I have Postfix in mind, I've heard it's pretty easy but I'm obviously > not set on it. I used postfix throughout, and found it quite easy to set up and administer. Handling multiple domains locally was no big deal, jsut a matter of setting the "mydestination" option. Again, specifics may vary depending on what your provider allows/requires. > I'd also like to include spamassassin, and antivirus (clamav > probaly...) I do run spamassassin via local delivery, but obviously the stuff's made it onto my server by then. I don't run any MTA-level blocking, due to the setup described above. It does keep the crud out of my family's inboxen though (and quite deftly, I might add.) I also chain bogofilter and spamprobe, experimenting with variations on bayes. I'm on the spamassassin list, and there ways to get MTA-level integration, if you desire. I'm running several anti-virus (3 - bitdefender, f-prot and clamav) in line via procmail on delivery. Each detects some the others miss (depending on the hour.) Again, this could be integrated at a higher level. You might check out amavis or mailscanner. I've got anomy sanitizer as a 3rd level of defense, stripping off active content and defanging (web bugs and the like), for selected accounts. I set this up all as discrete steps, and had no real headaches. The documentation for each package (postfix, fetchmail, procmail, spamassassin, clamav) was sufficient. I run my own linux firewall, but I can understand why some folks prefer to by an appliance. I host my mail server off-site, but have done the "studly mail admin" bit as well. Just a question of trade-offs for a home/hobby system, and how much time you want to spend on it. - Bob _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] High-speed access questions
by Martin, Eric March 31, 2004

March 31, 2004

That's another good point about Charter...most of the tech support people are everyday people with a manual in front of them that has a table with 2 cols: Customer reports problem :: Solution. I had more dynamic solutions when I was 10 than these guys have. Also, how hard is it to setup a linux router? I've been meaning to make a DMZ, just have to get familiar with iptables... Eric -----Original Message----- From: Mike Frysinger [mailto:vapier@gentoo.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:59 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] High-speed access questions On Wednesday 31 March 2004 12:35 pm, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > Has anyone had luck with linux and Verizon DSL? They're down to > $35/month, and they give you the modem. Anyone know of better deals? verizon is the cheapest ive seen in our area ... i use it out in holden and the service has been perfect the last few years ... if you can get speakeasy, i'd shell the few extra dollars out for them (too bad they dont have service in holden for me though :() ... speakeasy knows linux and offers technical support for no extra $$$ i started using them when they first started offering DSL and they sucked horribly ... but they have gotten their act together and i havent had troubles since personally i use a gentoo linux router that connects with PPPoE and hosts dns (with dnsmasq)/dhcp/NAT for about 6 linux machines and 5 windows machines ... never had troubles that were my fault :) do *not* try to contact technical support from verizon, the vast majority are stupid and just read off of the screen in front of them ... i only ever talked to one guy that knew what 'linux' was and that was after hours of being on the phone (this was back when their hardware would go dark for days on end) if need/want help i wouldnt mind stopping over to lend a hand ... assuming you live in the worcester area :) -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] High-speed access questions
by Martin, Eric March 31, 2004

March 31, 2004

It just means that they won't support it. Charter will add $30/mo I believe....Verizon Does PPoE, get get ready to recompile your kernel if you aren't using a router (which you are, so it doesn't matter). Once you have a router plugged in, your internet connection becomes just a regular lan, and TCP/IP takes over, not Verizon or Charter... -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@rcn.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:36 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] High-speed access questions It seems like most of the providers say that you need windows or mac to use their DSL or cable internet. Does this just mean they won't offer tech support for linux, or does it mean that it won't work? I'm planning on using a router and having two computers connected. Has anyone had luck with linux and Verizon DSL? They're down to $35/month, and they give you the modem. Anyone know of better deals? Thanks. Greg _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RedHat 9 Network Problem
by Joel Young March 31, 2004

March 31, 2004

I just replaced Windows XP with RedHat 9 on one of my machines at home. My problem is that I can't connect to the network. If I specify DHCP and then try to connect I don't get any responses from my DHCP server and 'eth0' won't activate. If I specify a static IP address (i.e. 192.168.1.2) then 'eth0' will activate but I still can't get out on the network, event to ping. My network configuration consists of a Netgear 10/100 Wireless Router connected to a Cable Modem, with a Linksys Router/Switch to the Netgear Router to expand my ports. I've been running fine from all my XP Desktops through this configuration using DHCP. Any ideas would be appreciated.

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firstname.lastname and user.group e-mail
by Karl Hiramoto March 30, 2004

March 30, 2004

I'm sure you all have see people with e-mails of first.last(a)domain.com Is this easy to do with linux? Is there any confusion with having user.group ? can you login to the box with username= first.last ? Any suggestions? -- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto

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RE: [Wlug] Good Beginners Book
by Martin, Eric March 26, 2004

March 26, 2004

I def like the HOWTOs, just not sure how much people will like them of if they'll find even a stage3 gentoo box intimidating...Not to be rude, but please no comments for or against gentoo. We all know where everybody stands and don't need another distro argument :) Eric -----Original Message----- From: Gary Hanley [mailto:gary@hanley.net] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 10:17 AM To: andystewart(a)comcast.net; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Good Beginners Book On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Andy Stewart wrote: > How about Matt Welsh's book: Running Linux That was my intro to Linux. 2nd edition, I think. But maybe a better idea would be to build a Gentoo system as a class project. The Gentoo on-line documention is fabulous and goes into easy to understand detail for any technical novice. Just a thought. -- Gary _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Good Beginners Book
by Martin, Eric March 26, 2004

March 26, 2004

Anybody have good suggestions for a good beginners linux book? I teach Adult Education classes for Worcester, and I'm thinking of a Linux class target towards small business owners (figure they'll be the easiest to see the benefits.) Any ideas? Eric Martin

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RE: [Wlug] Good Beginners Book
by JONATHAN BEALL March 25, 2004

March 25, 2004

hi, i just wanted to answer your question, and thank you for the meeting the other night. my friend and i attended for the first time. your question: try linux in the workplace by the linux journal press. isbn is 1886411867 it's not the newest (not that old either) but it covers most of the KDE aps from 3.1 -Jonathan Beall p.s.- my friend and i just started a business called JBC Solutions. It's desktop and server linux solutions aimed specifically at the small business owner (Koffice, OOo, Samba, Apache, etc). would you mind keeping me up to date with your class? thankyou. >From: "Martin, Eric" <MartinE(a)worc.k12.ma.us> >Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: [Wlug] Good Beginners Book >Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 12:57:43 -0500 > >Anybody have good suggestions for a good beginners linux book? I teach >Adult Education classes for Worcester, and I'm thinking of a Linux class >target towards small business owners (figure they'll be the easiest to see >the benefits.) Any ideas? > >Eric Martin >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected and safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp

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ACM Installfest
by Ryan Caron March 24, 2004

March 24, 2004

Just a reminder that the Installfest is NOT this weekend. It will be held on Sunday, April 4th, from 3 to 7PM. We will be showing Revolution OS and other computer related movies for your enjoyment between swapping out Linux installation CDs. Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary

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free stuff
by Scott Venier March 23, 2004

March 23, 2004

I'm currently in the process of moving into a new apartment and have a couple of boxes worth of stuff that I don't really feel like packing up and moving. That means it's time for the annual WLUG freestuff shuffle. ;) http://www.scooter.cx/~scott/freestuff First come, first serve. Act quickly, and I can even bring it to the meeting tomorrow evening. Act less quickly, and we can meet some other time. Act slowly, and I have to lug it into the new apartment. That's no fun. If you're not local, or know someone who's not local that wants something, I'll ship as long as I get paypal'd the cost of shipping. Anything that's not claimed by Friday is getting put up on craigslist, so don't delay. Scott

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Reminder: Meeting Wed 7 PM
by Andy Stewart March 23, 2004

March 23, 2004

Hi Everybody, Our next meeting is on Wednesday, March 24th at 7:00 PM in the usual place (Access Grid room). At this meeting, Doug Waud will be our speaker. He will talk about TeX, LaTeX, and pdfLaTeX, which are document processing systems for generating really beautiful books, especially those with alot of mathematics. I have put a couple of links on the WLUG home page for your reference. I'll bring refreshments to the meeting, and we can go out afterwards for some food. I'm not sure if the Boynton Restaurant has completed its renovations, but if not, we can go to the mexican place. I look forward to seeing many of you at the meeting. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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RE: [wlug] Re: Instant Messaging Software
by Martin, Eric March 22, 2004

March 22, 2004

gaim supports jabber -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim To: 'Worcester Linux Users Group' Sent: 3/19/2004 4:16 PM Subject: RE: [wlug] Re: Instant Messaging Software The biggest problem usually isn't the messaging client itself, secure or insecure. The biggest problem is the users who don't understand the technology under it. Inside of Stratus we've done a lot of education to get users to understand that IM is a completely insecure medium and that no business information is to be transmitted over it. Once you explain to Suzy accountant that when she pasts the financials into the IM window and send it to her coworker that they shoot out the door, zip half way across the country and then come back and anybody in between can read them, it suddenly hits home... I only wish that Trillian supported Jabber. I deployed a Jabber server and it worked, but the clients for windows were so crummy that nobody used it. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Bob George [mailto:mailings02@ttlexceeded.com] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 2:30 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Re: Instant Messaging Software Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > [...] > I work at a large company in Natick that has recently decided to > disallow instant messaging clients from being used on corporate PC's. If the policy is "no instant messaging clients", I don't think I'd load jabber, then argue the finer points. Especially if disciplinary action is noted for violations. If nothing else, make the case for an INTERNAL server, but GET APPROVAL before using it. Jabber has much to recommend it for such a server. > They sight a concern that it is an insecure network link to the outside > world that could allow hackers, worms, trojans, viruses, etc ... into > the otherwise protected network. That's a commonly cited concern, and not unwarranted. > [...] What does affect my team is the ability to easily > communicate with each other on a "live" or instant platform within the > company firewall (we have no interest really to communicate outside the > firewall yet). I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction > of an Open Source alternative to an instant messaging platform? For > starters I'm just looking for software to run on a server (either Linux > or Doze) and the associated clients to use on primarily XP or 2000 desktops. Again, I'd get approval first, but IRC can do much of what you want. There are plenty of Win clients and servers for it. - Bob _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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wall messages on Gentoo
by Karl Hiramoto March 21, 2004

March 21, 2004

Anyone know how to allow users other than root to wall messages to other logins? wall "test" only displays to other users if doing it from root. Do i need to be in a certain group? -- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto

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RE: [wlug] Re: Instant Messaging Software
by Keller, Tim March 20, 2004

March 20, 2004

The biggest problem usually isn't the messaging client itself, secure or insecure. The biggest problem is the users who don't understand the technology under it. Inside of Stratus we've done a lot of education to get users to understand that IM is a completely insecure medium and that no business information is to be transmitted over it. Once you explain to Suzy accountant that when she pasts the financials into the IM window and send it to her coworker that they shoot out the door, zip half way across the country and then come back and anybody in between can read them, it suddenly hits home... I only wish that Trillian supported Jabber. I deployed a Jabber server and it worked, but the clients for windows were so crummy that nobody used it. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Bob George [mailto:mailings02@ttlexceeded.com] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 2:30 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Re: Instant Messaging Software Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > [...] > I work at a large company in Natick that has recently decided to > disallow instant messaging clients from being used on corporate PC's. If the policy is "no instant messaging clients", I don't think I'd load jabber, then argue the finer points. Especially if disciplinary action is noted for violations. If nothing else, make the case for an INTERNAL server, but GET APPROVAL before using it. Jabber has much to recommend it for such a server. > They sight a concern that it is an insecure network link to the outside > world that could allow hackers, worms, trojans, viruses, etc ... into > the otherwise protected network. That's a commonly cited concern, and not unwarranted. > [...] What does affect my team is the ability to easily > communicate with each other on a "live" or instant platform within the > company firewall (we have no interest really to communicate outside the > firewall yet). I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction > of an Open Source alternative to an instant messaging platform? For > starters I'm just looking for software to run on a server (either Linux > or Doze) and the associated clients to use on primarily XP or 2000 desktops. Again, I'd get approval first, but IRC can do much of what you want. There are plenty of Win clients and servers for it. - Bob _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Salvage flashdisk
by Joel Desrochers March 19, 2004

March 19, 2004

Tim, Here is one software I have heard was good, but have never used, Photorecovery. It is offered for XP or Mac OS 10. The demo is free. http://www.lc-tech.com/photorecovery.htm If you try it and it works, please let me know. Joel Desrochers Message: 6 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:24:37 -0500 From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> Subject: [Wlug] Salvage flashdisk To: "'wlug(a)wlug.org'" <wlug(a)wlug.org> Message-ID: <CAC3BCBB443DEC439198F230B4BCC7E9035B1A9F(a)exna6-ftsaa.mis.stratus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I've got a 32mb flash disk that's gone bad. Ironically it went bad before I had a chance to pull the pictures off of it. I can't open it with fdisk nor will doing a dd if=/dev/sda of=image_of_flash_disk will work. Anybody got any good ideas or know of utilities that might be capable of salvaging the data? Thanks, Tim. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/

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Instant Messaging Software
by Simoncini, Matthew March 19, 2004

March 19, 2004

Hey guys, I work at a large company in Natick that has recently decided to disallow instant messaging clients from being used on corporate PC's. They sight a concern that it is an insecure network link to the outside world that could allow hackers, worms, trojans, viruses, etc ... into the otherwise protected network. Whether I agree with this opinion or not I guess is irrelevant as I don't have a strong enough voice to change anything. What does affect my team is the ability to easily communicate with each other on a "live" or instant platform within the company firewall (we have no interest really to communicate outside the firewall yet). I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of an Open Source alternative to an instant messaging platform? For starters I'm just looking for software to run on a server (either Linux or Doze) and the associated clients to use on primarily XP or 2000 desktops. I'm doing some research on Source Forge and other sites to see if I can find something myself, but would prefer a suggestion from someone who's already implemented something like this. Thanks in advance. Matthew

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RE: [Wlug] Salvage flashdisk
by Keller, Tim March 19, 2004

March 19, 2004

Yeah, I tried that and the camera comes back with "Card Error". Oh well, I think this card is fubar. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Higgins [mailto:matt@higgsolutions.com] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:41 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Salvage flashdisk You could try to format it with your camera. Most cameras have a very simple format utility that will write a new partition table to the disk, and won't try to be smart about it like your pc. Also it my be the case that you have reached the write limit for the flash card. Compact Flash has a fixed write limit before the cells start to go bad. More to the point a given cell can only be switched from a 1 to a 0 n number of times (blank flashes are all 1's not 0's). -Matt Quoting "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com>: > I've got a 32mb flash disk that's gone bad. Ironically it went bad before I > had a chance to pull the pictures off of it. I can't open it with fdisk nor > will doing a dd if=/dev/sda of=image_of_flash_disk will work. > > Anybody got any good ideas or know of utilities that might be capable of > salvaging the data? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Salvage flashdisk
by Keller, Tim March 19, 2004

March 19, 2004

I've got a 32mb flash disk that's gone bad. Ironically it went bad before I had a chance to pull the pictures off of it. I can't open it with fdisk nor will doing a dd if=/dev/sda of=image_of_flash_disk will work. Anybody got any good ideas or know of utilities that might be capable of salvaging the data? Thanks, Tim.

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RE: [Wlug] Instant Messaging Software
by Martin, Eric March 19, 2004

March 19, 2004

jabber server is the best I've heard of. Gaim supports the client. www.jabber.org -----Original Message----- From: Simoncini, Matthew [mailto:Matthew.Simoncini@bsci.com] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 10:57 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Instant Messaging Software Hey guys, I work at a large company in Natick that has recently decided to disallow instant messaging clients from being used on corporate PC's. They sight a concern that it is an insecure network link to the outside world that could allow hackers, worms, trojans, viruses, etc ... into the otherwise protected network. Whether I agree with this opinion or not I guess is irrelevant as I don't have a strong enough voice to change anything. What does affect my team is the ability to easily communicate with each other on a "live" or instant platform within the company firewall (we have no interest really to communicate outside the firewall yet). I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of an Open Source alternative to an instant messaging platform? For starters I'm just looking for software to run on a server (either Linux or Doze) and the associated clients to use on primarily XP or 2000 desktops. I'm doing some research on Source Forge and other sites to see if I can find something myself, but would prefer a suggestion from someone who's already implemented something like this. Thanks in advance. Matthew

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Re: [Wlug] Instant Messaging Software
by matthew＠schnee.com March 19, 2004

March 19, 2004

Hi, One thing you can check out is a project from RPI called lily http://www.freegroups.org/lily-twiki/bin/view/Lily/ and http://www.lily.org/ There is information about how to set up your own server and there are clients for a ton of platforms. Matthew Schnee ------------------- Email sent using AnyEmail

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ACM Installfest has been moved...
by Ryan Caron March 17, 2004

March 17, 2004

Due to conflicting events on campus, we have moved the date of the Installfest. It is now scheduled for April 4th from 3 to 7PM. It will be in Higgins Lab 116. Please email acm(a)wpi.edu if you have any questions or are able to attend for even a portion of the event. Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary

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Re: [Wlug] Network configuration with OpenLDAP
by Michael Long March 17, 2004

March 17, 2004

Karl Hiramoto wrote: >What services do you need? > >linux shell logins? > > > Yes >samba logins? > > Yes >imap/pop logins? > > Yes, As Chuck pointed out earlier this is not a simple task. Since I have never managed a multiuser *nix evironment I believe the best thing for me to do is follow the KISS principle and attack the problem one piece at a time. The first step is to setup a robust multiuser environment that allows clients to authenticate onto the network via linux shells. These users will initially login either at the console or remotely via SSH. Ideally a VPN will be eventually be added to the mix. The next step will be to setup samba to allow clients to authenticate onto the network via windows. Finally setup ldap and migrate the authentication services to it. >I was also looking into this at my work. I setup a ldap server, I'm >using it now for an address book, but i have not setup any logins yet. > >>From my reading, i understand you need to configure each server (samba, >imap, etc) to auth to the ldap. > > > > >>Hi, >> >>My goal is to set up a small business network that will have both linux >>and windows >>clients. I would like to use OpenLDAP for my authentication services. The >>problem >>is that I have never done anything like this and don't know where to >>start. I have >>read the docs at openldap.org, LDAP-HOWTO, LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO, >>http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html and am >>not sure >>where to start. I would like to start by building the services that will >>allow me >>to authenticate users and configure file shares that they have access to. >>Which >>service(s) should I start with PAM, LDAP, other? >> >>Thanks, >>Mike >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> > > >

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Network configuration with OpenLDAP
by Michael Long March 16, 2004

March 16, 2004

Hi, My goal is to set up a small business network that will have both linux and windows clients. I would like to use OpenLDAP for my authentication services. The problem is that I have never done anything like this and don't know where to start. I have read the docs at openldap.org, LDAP-HOWTO, LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO, http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html and am not sure where to start. I would like to start by building the services that will allow me to authenticate users and configure file shares that they have access to. Which service(s) should I start with PAM, LDAP, other? Thanks, Mike

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Fwd: consulting assistance
by Andy Stewart March 16, 2004

March 16, 2004

If anybody has any interest in this opportunity, please contact Ralph Fasano directly at rfasano(a)risd.edu. -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Open source = security
by Michael Long March 12, 2004

March 12, 2004

Hi, During a discussion with an application architect, while trouble shooting SQL Servers "security" behavior, he asked how an application can be more secure when anyone can view the security related code. I thought this was self evident, but I guess it is not. I was wondering how others would answer this question? Thanks, Mike

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RE: [Wlug] Fwd: Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004
by Martin, Eric March 11, 2004

March 11, 2004

Gentoo has a live cd for mac, although it's not gui based...also there's a bit of config for oldworld macs... -----Original Message----- From: doug waud [mailto:douglas.waud@umassmed.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:59 AM To: andystewart(a)comcast.net; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Fwd: Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004 Hi all Andy Stewart wrote: > Subject: > Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004 snip,snip > We will be handing out printed materials and CDs with good > quality FOSS, like TheOpenCD and Knoppix. ..... > Our role will be to help coordinate the event and > provide ..... > high quality (pressed) CDs that local > teams can give out to the general public on Software Freedom Day. Andy, at our meetings, you have asked what we might do with our accumulated $. This FOSS initiative makes me wonder whether making a lot of Knoppix discs which we could all carry around and hand out when queried about Linux, might be a good use of our resources. It would strike me as being right on target with our objective of proselytizing. I, for one, continually run into people curious about Linux and free software in general. If I could hand them a Knoppix disk and say "Here, see for yourself!" I think I would get good bang for buck. In particular the term "free" would sink in well. Any thoughts? doug PS A lot of non Linux users use MACS. Does Knoppix work there/is there a MAC Knoppix alternative? It would be a shame to miss this constituency; MAC users may be human too! :-) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Fwd: Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004
by Andy Stewart March 11, 2004

March 11, 2004

-- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...
by Andy Stewart March 11, 2004

March 11, 2004

>From Softpro - FYI: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marlborough Softpro to Close - Last Day is March 20. Softpro Books Waltham will Serve as Single Location ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It is with great sadness that we've decided to consolidate our operations into our one Waltham store. The economy has taken its toll on our Marlborough location which we opened with great optimism over 4 years ago. Our last day will be Sat., March 20. Between now and then, we're selling all of our Marlboro inventory at 25% off (sorry, no special orders). Gift certificates will continue to be honored at our Waltham store. We apologize for any inconvenience to our Marlborough area customers and hope that you will visit us in our Waltham store, conveniently located on Route 128/95 at the Totten Pond Road exit. For directions, please visit our web site (www.softpro.com/info.html) or call us at 781-487-2220. -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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RE: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...
by Martin, Eric March 10, 2004

March 10, 2004

So, right now I don't get paid to read most of my ORA books, getting paid for it would be great!!!! Although, I am reading "Mastering Regular Expressions" right now on company time...got to get the spam filter working the best possible... -----Original Message----- From: Mike Peckar [mailto:fog@fognet.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:28 PM To: 'Worcester Linux Users Group' Subject: RE: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store... Bummer. ..was in that store last week and the clerk there was so bored he was half way through a book of "Jumbles." I wondered how many unemployed techno-dweebs would jump at the chance to be paid to read ORA books all day (albeit minimum wage). If only. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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KDE: Konqueror and fish protocol
by Andy Stewart March 8, 2004

March 8, 2004

HI all, Does anybody know what this "fish protocol" is that Konqueror can apparently use? I've noticed in Konqueror that besides typing "http:", one can also type things like "camera:", "ftp:", "sftp:" (but it doesn't quite work for me), and perhaps many others. I've just discovered "fish:" which appears to work the way I would expect "sftp:" to work. Does anybody have any experience with this? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest
by Ryan Caron March 5, 2004

March 5, 2004

Thanks for offering to loan your copy of PQMagic for the Installfest. I think we'll give the Open Source options a run through before the event; if they cause problems we'll revert to PQMagic. Concerning your server, I would move to another distro. I personally use Gentoo, but for your applications you may want to go with Debian. I like Gentoo since its so customizable, and the fact that everything is compiled from the source code speeds up the computer a fair amount. For Apache file permissions, directories should be 755 and files should be 644 as I understand it. I've always had a hard time with Samba and file permissions, so I would leave that to someone else. Apache and Samba config files can be very unique to what you are trying to accomplish with both - the only thing I can really suggest is to copy the config files onto a disk before your wipe out so you don't have to start from scratch! Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 11:27:37 -0500 From: Pete Wason <rogue(a)hynoom.com> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Message-ID: <40460779.7090306(a)hynoom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Martin, Eric wrote: > What are you looking for as far as help? > I'm running RH8.0 on my server. a. I'm not sure if I should continue to use RH as support has expired, and I can't affort their enterprise version. b. I'm not sure of/satisfied with my Apache configuration c. I'm not sure of/satisfied with my Samba configuration d. I'm not sure of/satisfied with general file permissions as they relate to (b and c) e. I want to install tcpserver and qmail, and disable sendmail (which I'm not using anyway) Network: CAT-5 ethernet Server: Dell 600SC/RH8.0 (http, samba, sshd, etc.) Router: LinkSys BEFSR81, on a cablemodem... Wkstns: Pegasos I/Morphos 1.4 (samba server also, I think) Clone PC/Win2000 Pro (windows shares, printer) Amiga 3000D/AmigaOS3.1 (printer, accesses shares via smbfs) Amiga 3000D/AmigaOS3.1 (smbfs) Sony Vaio laptop/WinXP Home (windows shares) Questions, Comments: 1. Is it normal that my http port should be getting hit hundreds of times a day with intrusion attacks aimed at an NT server? Strange days indeed... 2. I also am constantly bombarded with hundreds of virus-infected spam messages; right now I'm using a mailserver in NJ -- when I get mine set up, I'll switch. 3. I find it strange and somewhat disturbing that if I have my laptop booted to the logon screen, I can connect to its shares via samba - without a password! Is this normal (read: goofy) windows security? 4. If I didn't have to spend all my time looking for a job, doing part-time work on the side, and acting as non-paid VP of an ill-fated (so far) software startup, I could just hunker down and learn all this stuff myself. Right now, that's not an option. Pete

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RE: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest
by Martin, Eric March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

What are you looking for as far as help? -----Original Message----- From: Pete Wason [mailto:rogue@hynoom.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 8:49 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest Ryan Caron wrote: > As I mentioned in an earlier email, the Worcester Area Association for > Computing Machinery will be having a Linux Installfest on March 27th. > We are working under the assumption that many of the people that will > attend will want to keep their Windows installations as well. > Therefore, we need a nondestructive repartitioning software package. > It would also be nice if we could make an image of their hard drive > before we do anything so we can ensure the integrity of the data if > something were to go wrong. > > Unfortunately, the IT departments does not have copies of Partition > Magic or Ghost that we could use for the event. Does anybody have an > appropriately licensed copy of the software that we could use , or > know of Open Source / Freeware alternatives that are as reliable as > their commercial counterparts? Does someone's place of work have such > software that they would be willing for the ACM to use for the event? > Is anybody aware of Open Source / Freeware alternatives that are just > as reliable as these software packages (these systems will probably be > using NTFS, which is much more fickle than FAT32 when it comes to > these things) > > Any assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated, and the > ACM welcomes the WLUG to the Installfest on the 27th. > I own a copy of PartitionMagic 7.0 - not the latest, but I use it for client work and for my own machine from time to time. It seems to work fine on NTFS. I'm willing to loan a copy of it for the Installfest - let me know the details. On a related note, I'm still looking for some linuxy/networky help here at my place. I can't pay much, if anything, but maybe we could work out a deal. Latex, Pete Wason _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] DistCC
by Martin, Eric March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

Let me try and get a few things working in house, but I'm def up for trying...i have a PIII that can donate a few cycles.... -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Caron [mailto:rcaron@WPI.EDU] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:47 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] DistCC 1) are you referring to the log that distcc generaties via distcc-config --set-log ? Or are you referring to your compile screens? If the compile screens, then DistCC is working, it just doesn't display it. Try setting the log file and reviewing it after a compile 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything either, thats why i stick with the log. One disadvantage to the log is that it does not log date & time, which a friend of mine (the other guy on the distcc servers page) is trying to resolve. 3) I'm just doing x86 at this point, but I'll install cross compile support for you on my machines. 4) Just send me your server names and I will add them to my page. I'm thinking about writing a script that will parse a web page for server names and plug it into the distcc hosts variable. That way the network would be more dynamic to changes in the host lists. I'll keep you all posted. On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 "Martin, Eric" wrote Subject: RE: [Wlug] DistCC 1) I would like to, but I'm having problems getting distcc to work (I think). When I configure my clients, they will keep showing lines that *distcc can't find host 192.168.0.10*, but when that client is up, I don't get anything. I'm running gentoo on all my linux boxes, and I followed the distcc guide. 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything...any help? 3) Are you just doing x86 or do we want to try cross compiling, or have a few networks? I have a few x86s, a sparc64 and a ppcG3 all running gentoo. I'm trying to get cross compiling working, but like I said, I can't see if stuff is going or not. 4) I'm up for it. Share and Share alike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] DistCC
by Ryan Caron March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

1) are you referring to the log that distcc generaties via distcc-config --set-log ? Or are you referring to your compile screens? If the compile screens, then DistCC is working, it just doesn't display it. Try setting the log file and reviewing it after a compile 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything either, thats why i stick with the log. One disadvantage to the log is that it does not log date & time, which a friend of mine (the other guy on the distcc servers page) is trying to resolve. 3) I'm just doing x86 at this point, but I'll install cross compile support for you on my machines. 4) Just send me your server names and I will add them to my page. I'm thinking about writing a script that will parse a web page for server names and plug it into the distcc hosts variable. That way the network would be more dynamic to changes in the host lists. I'll keep you all posted. On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 "Martin, Eric" wrote Subject: RE: [Wlug] DistCC 1) I would like to, but I'm having problems getting distcc to work (I think). When I configure my clients, they will keep showing lines that *distcc can't find host 192.168.0.10*, but when that client is up, I don't get anything. I'm running gentoo on all my linux boxes, and I followed the distcc guide. 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything...any help? 3) Are you just doing x86 or do we want to try cross compiling, or have a few networks? I have a few x86s, a sparc64 and a ppcG3 all running gentoo. I'm trying to get cross compiling working, but like I said, I can't see if stuff is going or not. 4) I'm up for it. Share and Share alike

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Gentoo...
by Ryan Caron March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

Whoa, didn't mean to start a mini flame war! I think the portage system does wonders with the dependencies, and as I understand it portage is very BSD-like (I don't have any experience with BSD yet) with their package system. OK, one box boots up in 24 seconds (from GRUB menu to XDM login), and the other in 16 seconds (GRUB to CLI login). Now, thats a lot faster than default Red Hat installs, which can take minutes on a similarly capable machine. A good part of the faster bootup is that my Gentoo installation is, at least for now, much leaner than Red Hat and doesn't have to load as many daemons. But major distros like Red Hat, for compatibility sake, compile their code (or at least used to) as i386 for compatibility. Some have moved to i586. But my gentoo box is specifically compiled for the P4 with O3 compile flag. So that does speed things up a bit. Also, I run seti@home 24/7 on my personal boxes, so I never have any idle CPU percentages. On Red Hat seti@home would slow me down when I was really working the computer's resources. Haven't seen that happen yet in Gentoo. So, maybe its not the compiles that make it faster. But the capability to customize it, its inherent leanness (do I really want to install this if it takes 4 hours to compile)?, and its package system make it my linux distro of choice. Ryan Caron ACM Secretary

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DistCC
by Ryan Caron March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

It appears that at least a couple people here are using Gentoo. I am working on building a DistCC (Distributed C Compiling) network so that our "emerge -u world" and Stage 1 installations go by that much quicker. It has substantially improved my installation time - my first Stage 1 install, which did not use Distcc took nearly 3 days (some downtime was incurred since I had to sleep and go to class). With only 2 Pentium 4's and 1 Pentium 3, I was able to cut that time down to about 24 hours - the installation was on my 1.6Ghz Celeron, so you know that most of the compiling capabilities wasn't done on that! If you would like to use the Distcc network I'm putting together to get your Gentoo box running or to make emerge -u world that much quicker, all I ask is that you please run the Distcc server on your machine as well. The list of servers, scheduled emerge -u world times, and a script I wrote to automatically do emerge -u world is available at: http://www.acm.wpi.edu/~rcaron/Gentoo.shtml Gentoo's HOW-TO on configuring DistCC is at: http://www.Gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml Please email me if you have any questions or would like to contribute to the network. Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary

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RE: [Wlug] DistCC
by Martin, Eric March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

1) I would like to, but I'm having problems getting distcc to work (I think). When I configure my clients, they will keep showing lines that *distcc can't find host 192.168.0.10*, but when that client is up, I don't get anything. I'm running gentoo on all my linux boxes, and I followed the distcc guide. 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything...any help? 3) Are you just doing x86 or do we want to try cross compiling, or have a few networks? I have a few x86s, a sparc64 and a ppcG3 all running gentoo. I'm trying to get cross compiling working, but like I said, I can't see if stuff is going or not. 4) I'm up for it. Share and Share alike -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Caron [mailto:rcaron@WPI.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:28 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] DistCC It appears that at least a couple people here are using Gentoo. I am working on building a DistCC (Distributed C Compiling) network so that our "emerge -u world" and Stage 1 installations go by that much quicker. It has substantially improved my installation time - my first Stage 1 install, which did not use Distcc took nearly 3 days (some downtime was incurred since I had to sleep and go to class). With only 2 Pentium 4's and 1 Pentium 3, I was able to cut that time down to about 24 hours - the installation was on my 1.6Ghz Celeron, so you know that most of the compiling capabilities wasn't done on that! If you would like to use the Distcc network I'm putting together to get your Gentoo box running or to make emerge -u world that much quicker, all I ask is that you please run the Distcc server on your machine as well. The list of servers, scheduled emerge -u world times, and a script I wrote to automatically do emerge -u world is available at: http://www.acm.wpi.edu/~rcaron/Gentoo.shtml Gentoo's HOW-TO on configuring DistCC is at: http://www.Gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml Please email me if you have any questions or would like to contribute to the network. Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest
by Martin, Eric March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

For me honestly, it has to do with the fact that I got sick and tired of RedHat. I got tired of *rpm -qa | grep (some dependancy)* Do I feel like it sped things up from redhat, yeah! Do I like the fact that I've learned a ton about linux, not RedHat, yeah. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing RH, its just that *I* used RPMS as way too much of a crutch.) I like that I had evolution w/o ldap support, said "oh, I must have forgotten that flag", fixed the flag, and recompilied. Portage dl'd ldap for me, I didn't have to worry about deps...that's where gentoo really takes it for me. Eric Ps, sorry for ranting on the list -----Original Message----- From: Scott Venier [mailto:scott@scooter.cx] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:57 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest Scott Venier said: > Thank you thank you thank you. > > I'm so sick of the gentoo weenies claiming that. > OK. I'll apologize for this one up front. That was supposed to be off list. Bad squirrelmail. Now for some justification so I don't seem like a total jerk. I've just read reports of using 3 days of CPU time to intall a gentoo system. My wimpy k6 system has over 98% idle cpu cycles - that's running i386 compiled debian code and a not totally trivial workload, it's a firewall, mail/web/dns server, and has a fair number of interactive users (15 as I write this, but it's still early in the day). My computer spends almost all of its time waiting for me. Any time that it doesn't spend waiting for me is spent waiting for I/O devices like disks and the network. If you want your computer to be faster, get yourself gobs of ram and run out of a ram disk. The cpu time is rarely the bottle. 3 days to save something that I'm only using 3% of... It's just not worth the hassle, imho. Scott _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest
by Martin, Eric March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

Very little, I couldn't get it to work right... -----Original Message----- From: Pete Wason [mailto:rogue@hynoom.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:15 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 03 March 2004 07:03 pm, Ryan Caron wrote: > >>Concerning your server, I would move to another distro. I personally >>use Gentoo, but for your applications you may want to go with Debian. >>I like Gentoo since its so customizable, and the fact that everything >>is compiled from the source code speeds up the computer a fair amount. > > > or perhaps move to fedora as that'll be the most redhat like (assuming > thats > what you want :]) Does anyone have any exp with YD? I always liked the *look* of their stuff ;-) Pete _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 5, Issue 2
by sageman＠WPI.EDU March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

That's great. It's especially funny because that image is lying on an MSNBC website. > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Can you spot the (one) syntax error? (Keith Wright) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 00:09:34 -0500 > From: Keith Wright <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com> > Subject: [Wlug] Can you spot the (one) syntax error? > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <200403020509.i2259Y1p002376(a)fcs10.free-comp-shop.com> > > > Here's a funny cartoon about how Microsoft has > syntax errors in their Pascal code (or something): > http://www.msnbc.com/comics/daily.asp?sFile=ft040301 > > -- Keith > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 5, Issue 2 > ********************************** > > >

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Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 5, Issue 3
by Ryan Caron March 3, 2004

March 3, 2004

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Surge Protectors (Not Linux Specific...) (Chuck Noyes) > 2. Repartitioning for Installfest (Ryan Caron) > 3. Re: Repartitioning for Installfest (Mike Frysinger) > 4. Re: Repartitioning for Installfest (frank p) > 5. Re: Repartitioning for Installfest (Pete Wason) > 6. RE: Repartitioning for Installfest (Martin, Eric) > 7. Re: Repartitioning for Installfest (Pete Wason) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 11:26:15 -0500 > From: Chuck Noyes <cc.noyes(a)verizon.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Surge Protectors (Not Linux Specific...) > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <opr38s91awvt4kk9(a)outgoing.verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi all, > > This is not Linux specific, but there must some EE types that can answer > my question. What's the REAL meaning of the Juole rating on > surge protectors? Is 3000 joules "better" than 2000 joules? > Is there a "minimum" joule rating that is considered > good enough for most common environments? > > Thanks for your help, > > -Chuck > >

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Setting up postfix and mailman
by Charles A. Haines March 3, 2004

March 3, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm trying to set up postfix and mailman on a gentoo linux box. I've followed the instructions for setting up postfix to use both /etc/mail/aliases and /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases for alias maps. I've configured mailman so it know it's using postfix for the MTA. I've created the mailman list and another list to test. However when I try and send mail to the list, I get the following error: Mar 3 14:35:55 carnation postfix/local[6154]: C39852E25C: to=<officers(a)tkezm.org>, relay=local, delay=0, status=bounced (unknown user: "officers") Now I know that receiving and sending mail works on this box because I've tested it for local users. Any help would be much appreciated since I'm at my wits end and I can't find anything else on the subject. Thanks, Chuck ===================================== Chuck Haines chaines(a)wpi.edu http://www.maxslack.com http://www.3gpub.com ===================================== Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity WPI ECE Systems Administrator WPI Game Development Club Developer WPI Linux Association Lab Manager ===================================== AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ===================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQEZDVdFwM2LH0zrYEQIm1wCg91LSk02w4srq7/hk4tsrfGQ4qesAniAr dDq/pXLDzP5Q0Mg7yzeWFkoT =O8Ha -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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by Joel Desrochers March 3, 2004

March 3, 2004

Pete, Consider ClarkConnect Home Edition V2.1. It is a RH based (V8 I think) server that inlcudes most of the functionallity you list. Very simple install. Easy modifications once running via a web browser. Updates are simple and free over the web from ClarkConnect. A few quick notes: 1) Clark includes the option of a multi-homed ethernet firewall also, which I never install. How can one box be both securing your network and a server for everything and the kitchen sink? It is best to keep the firewall separate. 2) They offer service packages also if support is needed. I have not tried this. 3) On any server, it is best to only install/run/configure the applications and services that are needed. http://www.clarkconnect.org/info/home.current.html Also contact me off list for either further questions on the above or discussing the possibility of networking/Linux help. Joel Desrochers >Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 11:27:37 -0500 >From: Pete Wason <rogue(a)hynoom.com> >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Message-ID: <40460779.7090306(a)hynoom.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Martin, Eric wrote: > > What are you looking for as far as help? > > > >I'm running RH8.0 on my server. > >a. I'm not sure if I should continue to use RH as support has expired, and >I >can't affort their enterprise version. > >b. I'm not sure of/satisfied with my Apache configuration > >c. I'm not sure of/satisfied with my Samba configuration > >d. I'm not sure of/satisfied with general file permissions as they relate >to (b >and c) > >e. I want to install tcpserver and qmail, and disable sendmail (which I'm >not >using anyway) > >Network: CAT-5 ethernet > >Server: Dell 600SC/RH8.0 (http, samba, sshd, etc.) > >Router: LinkSys BEFSR81, on a cablemodem... > >Wkstns: Pegasos I/Morphos 1.4 (samba server also, I think) > Clone PC/Win2000 Pro (windows shares, printer) > Amiga 3000D/AmigaOS3.1 (printer, accesses shares via smbfs) > Amiga 3000D/AmigaOS3.1 (smbfs) > Sony Vaio laptop/WinXP Home (windows shares) > >Questions, Comments: > >1. Is it normal that my http port should be getting hit hundreds of times a >day >with intrusion attacks aimed at an NT server? Strange days indeed... > >2. I also am constantly bombarded with hundreds of virus-infected spam >messages; right now I'm using a mailserver in NJ -- when I get mine set up, >I'll switch. > >3. I find it strange and somewhat disturbing that if I have my laptop >booted to >the logon screen, I can connect to its shares via samba - without a >password! >Is this normal (read: goofy) windows security? > >4. If I didn't have to spend all my time looking for a job, doing part-time >work on the side, and acting as non-paid VP of an ill-fated (so far) >software >startup, I could just hunker down and learn all this stuff myself. Right >now, >that's not an option. > >Pete _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Lightning-fast Internet access for as low as $29.95/month. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/

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RE: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest
by Martin, Eric March 3, 2004

March 3, 2004

As far as distros go, I use gentoo (www.gentoo.org) I switched when redhat8.0 wouldn't load on a server of mine. The forums on their website are amazing, and I haven't even had a problem that somebody couldn't fix. My suggestion is gentoo. I'm still a bit of a novice myself when it comes to Apache and Samba, so I'm prob not the guy for the job. If you had a bit of time maybe, but I'm still learning. What ver of windows are your running on your laptop? And just so you know, default installs of windows are horribly insecure. There's prob an account with a blank password somewhere, or you could be running 9x and they didn't even care about security then. Yeah, your http port will prob be getting hit daily with people trying to pull funny stuff, worms trying to hurt you, etc.. Sorry I can't be of anymore help...a decent samba referece is on O'Reilly's openbooks site, www.oreilly.com/opnebook; Using Samba, 2ed. Eric -----Original Message----- From: Pete Wason [mailto:rogue@hynoom.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:28 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest Martin, Eric wrote: > What are you looking for as far as help? > I'm running RH8.0 on my server. a. I'm not sure if I should continue to use RH as support has expired, and I can't affort their enterprise version. b. I'm not sure of/satisfied with my Apache configuration c. I'm not sure of/satisfied with my Samba configuration d. I'm not sure of/satisfied with general file permissions as they relate to (b and c) e. I want to install tcpserver and qmail, and disable sendmail (which I'm not using anyway) Network: CAT-5 ethernet Server: Dell 600SC/RH8.0 (http, samba, sshd, etc.) Router: LinkSys BEFSR81, on a cablemodem... Wkstns: Pegasos I/Morphos 1.4 (samba server also, I think) Clone PC/Win2000 Pro (windows shares, printer) Amiga 3000D/AmigaOS3.1 (printer, accesses shares via smbfs) Amiga 3000D/AmigaOS3.1 (smbfs) Sony Vaio laptop/WinXP Home (windows shares) Questions, Comments: 1. Is it normal that my http port should be getting hit hundreds of times a day with intrusion attacks aimed at an NT server? Strange days indeed... 2. I also am constantly bombarded with hundreds of virus-infected spam messages; right now I'm using a mailserver in NJ -- when I get mine set up, I'll switch. 3. I find it strange and somewhat disturbing that if I have my laptop booted to the logon screen, I can connect to its shares via samba - without a password! Is this normal (read: goofy) windows security? 4. If I didn't have to spend all my time looking for a job, doing part-time work on the side, and acting as non-paid VP of an ill-fated (so far) software startup, I could just hunker down and learn all this stuff myself. Right now, that's not an option. Pete _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Repartitioning for Installfest
by Ryan Caron March 3, 2004

March 3, 2004

As I mentioned in an earlier email, the Worcester Area Association for Computing Machinery will be having a Linux Installfest on March 27th. We are working under the assumption that many of the people that will attend will want to keep their Windows installations as well. Therefore, we need a nondestructive repartitioning software package. It would also be nice if we could make an image of their hard drive before we do anything so we can ensure the integrity of the data if something were to go wrong. Unfortunately, the IT departments does not have copies of Partition Magic or Ghost that we could use for the event. Does anybody have an appropriately licensed copy of the software that we could use , or know of Open Source / Freeware alternatives that are as reliable as their commercial counterparts? Does someone's place of work have such software that they would be willing for the ACM to use for the event? Is anybody aware of Open Source / Freeware alternatives that are just as reliable as these software packages (these systems will probably be using NTFS, which is much more fickle than FAT32 when it comes to these things) Any assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated, and the ACM welcomes the WLUG to the Installfest on the 27th. Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary

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Surge Protectors (Not Linux Specific...)
by Chuck Noyes March 2, 2004

March 2, 2004

Hi all, This is not Linux specific, but there must some EE types that can answer my question. What's the REAL meaning of the Juole rating on surge protectors? Is 3000 joules "better" than 2000 joules? Is there a "minimum" joule rating that is considered good enough for most common environments? Thanks for your help, -Chuck -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

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Can you spot the (one) syntax error?
by Keith Wright March 2, 2004

March 2, 2004

Here's a funny cartoon about how Microsoft has syntax errors in their Pascal code (or something): http://www.msnbc.com/comics/daily.asp?sFile=ft040301 -- Keith

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