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Linuxworld
by Mike Leo 15 Jan '05

15 Jan '05

I lost the thread about the linuxworld trip since I didn't think i was going, now I am.... Anyone going all 4 days? Was there a commutting option? Ya'll just taking the train, etc,etc,etc... I get to go all 4 days on the company's credit card! Hope there is good stuff down there. Anyone ever been before? Is it worth dragging a laptop down there for 4 days? Will I get beat up if I bring a windows laptop? Is there any 1 thing I should be sure to see? see ya! Mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com

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WLUG trip to Linuxworldexpo?
by Keller, Tim 14 Jan '05

14 Jan '05

Hey All... I'm planning on attending Linux world expo (the free part) and I was wondering if anybody else would be interested in meeting up in Worcester and taking the commuter rail in. I was thinking of maybe going on Feb 16th. Thanks, Tim.

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presentation slides for this evening's talk
by Jeff Moyer 13 Jan '05

13 Jan '05

I've uploaded them to the following place: http://segfault.dhs.org/~phro/netdump_crash.pdf Export to pdf got rid of bullets, but it's mostly readable. -Jeff

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FC-3 cd's tonight
by Jeff Moyer 13 Jan '05

13 Jan '05

Does anyone want me to burn CD's for them? I'll plan on bringing 3 sets, complete with the source cd's. Let me know if you have a special request. Off list response is preferable. -Jeff

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Clustering
by Jared Greenwald 13 Jan '05

13 Jan '05

Are there any people on this list that have experience with Linux clustering? In particular, Oracle RAC on Linux (9i/10g) - though I'll take general info as well. :) I have experience with UNIX clustering through a product called TruClusters (for Tru64 UNIX), but I'm changing directions and looking at Linux (and RAC in particular). I'm sorta new to the list and my Linux experience up till this point has been purely on the user end of things - setting up/maintaining my home network and a desktop here and there. I've been a user space developer for Tru64 and HP-UX (with Compaq and HP, respectively) in cluster technology and moving to Linux is a new career direction... Any info or contacts would be appreciated. Thanks. Jared Greenwald

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Upcoming meeting: Thurs Jan 13th
by Andy Stewart 12 Jan '05

12 Jan '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Its time once again for our monthly WLUG meeting. On Thursday, Jan 13th, Jeff Moyer from RedHat will talk to the group about netdump/crash, which are tools for kernel debugging. Here are a couple of URLs to get you acquainted with the meeting topic: http://www.redhat.com/support/wpapers/redhat/netdump/ http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/netdump.8.html The meeting time is 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room at WPI. Directions can be found on the WLUG website. See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB5HRFHl0iXDssISsRAj4EAJ9wWdfdcXPpb1SMNQoKkQGxEI+HfACeOSFg x0DaZJ1WF9A3ld6iJfFcziA= =JpX/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting: Jan 13th
by Andy Stewart 11 Jan '05

11 Jan '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 January 2005 8:35 am, Jeff Moyer wrote: > > andystewart> Of the three topics you mentioned, I think that the kernel > andystewart> debugging one might be of the most interest. However, I have > andystewart> a hard time crashing a Linux kernel. :-) > andystewart> If its too late, I'll understand. > > It's not too late. That's two votes for the netdump/crash talk. > > I'm curious, why didn't you CC the list? Probably because I was half asleep when I replied. Shall we proceed with the netdump/crash talk? Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4zeHHl0iXDssISsRAocJAJ9iSd6X4QQ0+KhEtOA8Sy18pqdwbACfV+Ec kU9GuLEYEWjrf3PuECXJYno= =xRAx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Upcoming meeting: Jan 13th
by Andy Stewart 10 Jan '05

10 Jan '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, We have a WLUG meeting coming up on Thurs Jan 13 - any thoughts on what topic we should explore? Or more to the point - any volunteers? :-) Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB3NoVHl0iXDssISsRAjByAJ9emZO3gA+52yQ0dBLhMmSBvWTxNQCfcKRO diTNYvQe9uG7zOGE6NSFikY= =1oes -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RE: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting: Jan 13th
by Minkov, Ross 10 Jan '05

10 Jan '05

Jeff, "netdump/crash - tools for kernel debugging" sounds interesting to me. Thanks, Ross -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Moyer Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 9:28 AM To: andystewart(a)comcast.net; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting: Jan 13th ==> Regarding [Wlug] Upcoming meeting: Jan 13th; Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> adds: andystewart> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 andystewart> HI gang, andystewart> We have a WLUG meeting coming up on Thurs Jan 13 - any andystewart> thoughts on what topic we should explore? Or more to the andystewart> point - any volunteers? :-) I can present on one of a few topics: autofs - the Sun automounter netdump/crash - tools for kernel debugging programming with the Linux Asynchronous I/O subsystem (AIO) - I can go into detail on the internals for RH 2.4 kernels, but I havne't come up to speed on how things are done in 2.6 just yet. Please let me know if you would like me to present fairly soon, as I don't have a prepared talk on any one of the subjects. -Jeff _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples
by Martin, Eric 07 Jan '05

07 Jan '05

I always thought it was that and some mobile processor goodies (low power consumption, etc) Eric Martin Worcester Public Schools -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Hughes Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:15 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:41:32 -0500 (EST), Gary Hanley <gary(a)hanley.net> wrote: > On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, Brian Waite wrote: > > True. However Intel is doing quite well with "Centrino" and I'd bet > most people who buy "Centrino" have no idea what it is. (No one here, > of > course!) > Isn't it just built in 802.11b? If not.. then, yeah lousy marketing =) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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cheap Compaq at Staples
by Bill Mills-Curran 05 Jan '05

05 Jan '05

Staples has a low-priced machine advertised in the Globe: $199.94 for a Compaq Presario with an AMD Sempron processor. Any idea how this might work with Linux? I picked up a cheap Compaq at Walmart a year ago, and I returned it because it was such a dog. TIA, Bill

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lock down /etc
by Justin Odom 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

Not sure if anyone has experience with this, but I would like to lock down the /etc directory so common users cannot run through the directory and read all the files. However, programs still need to be able to read the files to work. I'm trying to do this because we have several users on our system that like to peruse the files within /etc. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks for your help, Justin

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Trouble with SATA DVD burner
by Andy Stewart 28 Dec '04

28 Dec '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI all, I'm having problems with an SATA DVD burner (Plextor 712). I can't get Linux to see it. Any advice you might offer would be appreciated. Kernel 2.6.10 x86_64 The (I think) salient portion of /var/log/messages is shown below. I get this when I "modprobe sata_via": amdtux kernel: libata version 1.10 loaded. amdtux kernel: sata_via version 1.0 amdtux kernel: sata_via(0000:00:0f.0): routed to hard irq line 10 amdtux kernel: ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xB800 ctl 0xBC02 bmdma 0xC800 irq 20 amdtux kernel: ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xC000 ctl 0xC402 bmdma 0xC808 irq 20 amdtux kernel: ata1: dev 0 cfg 49:0f00 82:0000 83:0000 84:0000 85:0000 86:0000 87:0000 88:0407 amdtux kernel: ata1: dev 0 ATAPI, max UDMA/33 amdtux kernel: ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/33 amdtux kernel: scsi3 : sata_via amdtux kernel: ata2: no device found (phy stat 00000000) amdtux kernel: scsi4 : sata_via The chipset is VIA VT8237. The rest of the system: MB = MSI K8T Master2 FAR (2xOpteron 244) adaptec 29160 with 1 scsi disk atapi dvdrom sata plextor 712 crappy pci-based sound card ATI Radeon 7500 onboard Gb ethernet onboard usb Another data point: I booted KNOPPIX V3.6 (kernel 2.6.7), in the hope that its generally good hardware detection might make this device magically work. It notices the drive quite nicely and tries to make it available as "hde" (as seen in dmesg). However, once KNOPPIX comes up, I cannot successfully do anything with the drive. I'll burn a KNOPPIX V3.next CD and try this to see if the result changes (since that CD will probably have a more recent kernel). This gives me some hope that this device *might* work with Linux. FYI: When buying HW to build this system, I ordered the Plextor 712 ATAPI version, figuring I'd have trouble like this with SATA. The vendor shipped me the SATA drive at the cheaper ATAPI price...go figure. Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB0PNqHl0iXDssISsRAu8KAJ96wviwjcevfQqRMfoy4fhldIP8OACfWdfQ zlGuL+Wtv9B0iej751ZqPLo= =gRGH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] Trouble with SATA DVD burner
by Charles R. Anderson 28 Dec '04

28 Dec '04

On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 12:06:49PM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: > Well, I got it working with SuSE's kernel version 2.6.5-7.111.19-smp, but that > doesn't explain to me why I can't make it work with a stock 2.6.10 kernel. > Now I'm hitting the "kernel madness" which broke CD/DVD burning for all but > the root user. I believe it was 2.6.8+ that changed the way cd burning (SCSI generic or ATAPI SG_IO) support worked. This was done to fix some security issues where a user could e.g. reflash the firmware on your drives, rendering them toasters. There is now some SCSI command filtering done to prevent such things. Fedora has pretty much abandoned ide-scsi and has switched instead to the SG_IO API directly on the underlying ATAPI device. This allows applications to send SCSI Generic commands by using the ATAPI device instead of the SG device which required the ide-scsi hack for ATAPI devices. I know this change broke a lot of things, mainly people's expectations on which device to use with cdrecord et al. It is now as simple as: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc or similar.

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Proliant 1600 for sale
by Mike Leo 28 Dec '04

28 Dec '04

I go back and forth on this, but I have a Compaq Proliant 1600, dual 450 (or 500, i forget), with 6 18gig drives, plus an F1 full of 18gig drives, plus some spares. I can also put in a DLT drive. It runs fine, but is loud. I go back and forth with wanting to sell it 'cause I didn't think anyone would be interested. But is anyone? $600 for the whole shabang. I can get more specific specs once I get home. I can bring it to a lug meeting, or can arrange shipping. Let me know... Mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com

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Sun's x86 Strategy
by Gary Hanley 23 Dec '04

23 Dec '04

Hello all. I came across this article today that some might find interesting. It touches on Sun's disadvantage with regard to Solaris development costs compared to Linux and how it plans to deal with that, as well as the probable demise of UltraSparc. http://www.techuser.net/sunx86.html -- Gary

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yum repository for Aurora?
by Bill Smith 23 Dec '04

23 Dec '04

Would anyone here HAPPEN to know of any yum repositories for Aurora Linux (Sparc flavor, 1.0 is based on RH 7.3, 1.9x is based on Fedora)? I've been looking for a repository for upgrading my 1.0 installation to the latest 1.91/1.92, but I cannot find an up-to-date repository. 8( (For anyone that's curious, I'm running Aurora on my Sparc Ultra60...) Any assistance would be greatly appreciated... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "Uncouple faith from truth altogether, and bad things can happen. People come to believe without truth, and then the truth becomes something nobody will believe." -- Charles P. Pierce (in 'The Truth About Polygraphs', 2003/10/03 edition of Boston Globe Magazine, p18) * TAG! v3.1a *

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Items available to good home
by Theo Van Dinter 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 08:35:29PM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: > The next WLUG meeting will be held on Wednesday, December 15th at 7:00 PM. Hey everyone. Sorry to go off-topic for a minute, but I'm going to be moving in the near future, and have a lot of items which need a new home. With the upcoming WLUG meeting (which I'm planning to attend), it seemed like a good time to post the list. :) If you're interested in any of the items, I'll be happy to bring them out to Worcester on Wednesday, and you can get them after the meeting. The list is available at: http://www.kluge.net/stuff/ -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Don't tell my kids I'm going to jail! Tell them I joined the Blue Man Group ... I'm the fat one!" - Homer Simpson, A Star is Born Again

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Reminder: Guest Speaker 'maddog'
by Andy Stewart 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, The next WLUG meeting will be held on Wednesday, December 15th at 7:00 PM. Our guest speaker will be Jon 'maddog' Hall, the Executive Director of Linux International, and his topic will be: "The Many Ways of Making Money with Free and Open Source" Details about the talk, and some biographical information about our speaker, can be found on the WLUG home page. maddog is a great speaker who has spoken at several WLUG meetings in the past. His talks are always quite informative and entertaining, and the response from the WLUG membership has been overwhelmingly positive. There is a reasonable probability that the meeting location will move. If so, I'll let you know, and I'll also have a sign posted at the Access Grid room if we do move elsewhere on campus. For now, assume that we'll be in the usual place. Bring your friends! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBuP1hHl0iXDssISsRAkHHAJ9n3VutYSp/NYpLuE3aktHJ7nQWwQCeOfRX GZS/95jLP0UPNadePoV63Xo= =NEY4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Big Package
by Chuck Haines 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Can anyone suggest a really big package to compile on a Sun 64 bit operton machine? We just got a new one and I want to test it out. CH -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity http://www.tkezm.org WPI Class of 2005 http://www.wpi.edu ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

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Printing problems
by Don Peterson 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

Hi All, I am having trouble when printing big batches of documents, these are over 20 pages. Everything starts off fine, but then printing stops usually around page 18 to page 22. If I reprint the batch a different number of pages will print, but never all of them. Like I said I usually get anywhere between 18 to 22 pages. I've noticed if I restart the lpd service I can get the batch to reprint fully once. But then when the next batch prints I start having trouble again. Does anyone know if there is a spool limit with lpd? I know you are going to say use CUPS, but I don't want to mess around with my production servers if I don't have to. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanx, Don

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PCI-X under Linux
by Carlton C. Stedman II 29 Nov '04

29 Nov '04

I was just wondering if anyone had any success using PCI-X/PCI-Express cards under linux. I was looking through the kernel and don't see any specific settings strictly for PCI-X bus. I wonder if they *just work* with PCI support enabled, as AGP does. I'm specifically interested if anyone has got hardware 3D acceleration working with a PCI-X video card. I'm looking at getting a mid-range NVidia card, since their drivers are at least useable under linux, compared to the atrocious performance and glitches the ATI proprietary drivers have (and the open drivers being worked on are not overly worried with the card I have, and the R300 driver doesn't have any sort of 3D acceleration right now). As far as I can understand from the docs on nvidia's website, it seems like it'll just work, but was interested if anyone had any success. In particular I'm looking at the nvidia 6600gt series. Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks. CCS -- Carlton C. Stedman II, sageman(a)wpi.edu "To iterate is human, to recurse, divine." -- L. Peter Deutch

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Linux Job Opportunity
by Andy Stewart 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, I am posting this for a technical recruiter. If you have interest in the position, or know someone who does, please contact the recruiter directly. ====start===== My name is Tom Di Filippo. I am a technical recruiter in the Boston area. I am conducting a confidential search for one of my client companies that is specifically looking for several Software Engineers with desktop Linux experience. Below is a brief overview of what they are looking for. If you or any of your colleagues are interested in hearing more about these opportunities please contact me directly. Thank you in advance for your help. Senior/Principal Engineer, Linux Client (positions at various levels) * Will design and implement portable runtime environment on a Linux desktop platform * Experience with any of the following: Java, Swing, JNI, C++, MFC, ATL, COM, ActiveX. * IE Browser Control and/or Mozilla Geiko engine. * Embedding Media Players into client applications. * Multithreading, X Windows Window Manager development. * Linux device driver development and integration Kind regards, Thomas Di Filippo Market Manager, Client Services (IT and Engineering Staffing) Kforce Professional Staffing 20 Mall Road, Suite 400 Burlington, MA 01803 (781) 359-1707 tdifilippo(a)kforce.com ====end===== - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBo9GsHl0iXDssISsRArtgAKCBx+gDu6gDgUsuz0o1/eONNVa9wwCeKR3r +c2BVq+82puWli3hzTODygU= =Y8uw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Linksys WPC11 v3 Wireless Card in SuSE 9.1
by Chuck Haines 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

Has anyone gotten a WPC11 ver 3 wireless card to work in suse 9.1? YaST detects the card, however I cannot get it to use WEP correctly and since both WPI and my home network require it, I'm outta luck right now. Any help with this would be much appreciated. Chuck -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity http://www.tkezm.org WPI Class of 2005 http://www.wpi.edu ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 -------------------------------------------

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[jmorris@redhat.com: Linux Journal Article]
by Charles R. Anderson 13 Nov '04

13 Nov '04

----- Forwarded message from James Morris <jmorris(a)redhat.com> ----- From: James Morris <jmorris(a)redhat.com> To: selinux(a)tycho.nsa.gov Cc: fedora-selinux-list(a)redhat.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 21:48:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Linux Journal Article Message-ID: <Xine.LNX.4.44.0411122147260.7482-100000(a)thoron.boston.redhat.com> Reply-To: "Fedora SELinux support list for users & developers." <fedora-selinux-list(a)redhat.com> What's New in Fedora Core 3 SE Linux By Faye Coker http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/7887 -- James Morris <jmorris(a)redhat.com> -- fedora-selinux-list mailing list fedora-selinux-list(a)redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list ----- End forwarded message -----

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