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Re: glut of 21" monitors
by Norm Legare May 21, 2005

May 21, 2005

When and where can these be looked at? I'd be interested in a couple. Norm > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 16:19:04 -0400 > From: Doug Mildram <doug.mildram(a)mindspeed.com> > Subject: [Wlug] glut of 21" monitors > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <20050517201904.GA15175(a)dogbert.westboro.mindspeed.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > doug> This may not have any appeal but : > > My Westborough MA office needs to give away quite a few (dozen or > more) of > > 21" NEC Accusync 1999-2000 vintage > or > 21" ViewSonic G810 1997-1998 vintage > > Free and Good. (The Not-So-Good ones, I'll dispose of elsewhere. > I won't dump fuzzy, burned-in, or bad ones into your > hands. ) > > ==================== > > One final "gem" : There's a Frank ???? on this wlug list > who I recall had a toshiba portege laptop: > Sorry I never snagged your full name/addr! > Need another Portege 71xx DVD/enet dock station? > > ================================================================ > Doug Mildram Mindspeed Technologies > 8 Technology Drive ( near EMC, 495 and route 9 ) > Westborough, MA 01581 > > > > > ------------------------------ > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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RE: Wlug Digest, Vol 19, Issue 9 - 21" monitors
by albutler33＠netscape.net May 18, 2005

May 18, 2005

wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] glut of 21" monitors >Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:21:19 -0400 >From: Frank Moody <fmoody-ug-wlug(a)moodman.org> >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 04:19:04PM -0400, Doug Mildram wrote: >> doug> This may not have any appeal but : >> >> My Westborough MA office needs to give away quite a few (dozen or more) of >> >> 21" NEC Accusync 1999-2000 vintage >> or >> 21" ViewSonic G810 1997-1998 vintage >> >> Free and Good. (The Not-So-Good ones, I'll dispose of elsewhere. >> I won't dump fuzzy, burned-in, or bad ones into your hands. ) >> Frank, Please reserve one of the good ones (free as in free beer) for me.I would like to pick it up before 12 noon tomorrow (Thursday 5-19) if I could.Otherwise I might not be able to come until Friday.Please tell me where in Westborough your company is located. Al Butler albutler33(a)netscape.net >> ==================== >> >> One final "gem" : There's a Frank ???? on this wlug list >> who I recall had a toshiba portege laptop: >> Sorry I never snagged your full name/addr! >> Need another Portege 71xx DVD/enet dock station? >> >> ================================================================ >> Doug Mildram Mindspeed Technologies ><SNIP> > > I think I'm the Frank with the portege (actually have two, 7200CTe >and a 7220CTe). Sure, I'll take the docking station, just let me know what >the part number is so I can confirm it is the right one. > > I'd also like a few of the 21"s, preferrably the G810s and matched >sets of two. I'd be interested in anywhere from one up to a half dozen of >them... Dual monitor setups are usually hard to upgrade on a limited >budget. *chuckle* > > Double luck since it looks like the Worcester Co-op will take donations > of whatever monitors get replaced... > > Now I just need to double check that the desk will take the new weight... > >Frank Moody > > > > > > >Subject: [Wlug] Share a Ride from Leominster? >Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:43:46 -0400 >From: Frank Moody <fmoody-ug-wlug(a)moodman.org> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Anybody mind lending me a lift to the WLUG meeting Thursday from >Leominster? > >Frank >(Who is loving the situation of sorting out a registration paperwork error in >California from the other side of the country...) > > >Subject: [Wlug] Re: glut of 21" monitors >Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:15:55 -0700 (PDT) >From: Norm Legare <normlegare(a)yahoo.com> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >When and where can these be looked at? I'd be interested in a couple. > >Norm >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 16:19:04 -0400 >> From: Doug Mildram <doug.mildram(a)mindspeed.com> >> Subject: [Wlug] glut of 21" monitors >> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> Message-ID: <20050517201904.GA15175(a)dogbert.westboro.mindspeed.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> doug> This may not have any appeal but : >> >> My Westborough MA office needs to give away quite a few (dozen or >> more) of >> >> 21" NEC Accusync 1999-2000 vintage >> or >> 21" ViewSonic G810 1997-1998 vintage >> >> Free and Good. (The Not-So-Good ones, I'll dispose of elsewhere. >> I won't dump fuzzy, burned-in, or bad ones into your >> hands. ) >> >> ==================== >> >> One final "gem" : There's a Frank ???? on this wlug list >> who I recall had a toshiba portege laptop: >> Sorry I never snagged your full name/addr! >> Need another Portege 71xx DVD/enet dock station? >> >> ================================================================ >> Doug Mildram Mindspeed Technologies >> 8 Technology Drive ( near EMC, 495 and route 9 ) >> Westborough, MA 01581 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >=== message truncated === > > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. >http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > >Subject: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 19, Issue 8 >Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:51:23 -0400 >From: joel d <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >I would also like to get two of the 21" monitors if they are still left. > >Thanks, > >Joel Desrochers > > > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

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Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 19, Issue 8
by joel d May 18, 2005

May 18, 2005

I would also like to get two of the 21" monitors if they are still left. Thanks, Joel Desrochers

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Share a Ride from Leominster?
by Frank Moody May 18, 2005

May 18, 2005

Anybody mind lending me a lift to the WLUG meeting Thursday from Leominster? Frank (Who is loving the situation of sorting out a registration paperwork error in California from the other side of the country...)

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glut of 21" monitors
by Doug Mildram May 18, 2005

May 18, 2005

doug> This may not have any appeal but : My Westborough MA office needs to give away quite a few (dozen or more) of 21" NEC Accusync 1999-2000 vintage or 21" ViewSonic G810 1997-1998 vintage Free and Good. (The Not-So-Good ones, I'll dispose of elsewhere. I won't dump fuzzy, burned-in, or bad ones into your hands. ) ==================== One final "gem" : There's a Frank ???? on this wlug list who I recall had a toshiba portege laptop: Sorry I never snagged your full name/addr! Need another Portege 71xx DVD/enet dock station? ================================================================ Doug Mildram Mindspeed Technologies 8 Technology Drive ( near EMC, 495 and route 9 ) Westborough, MA 01581

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REMINDER: Upcoming Meeting
by Andy Stewart May 17, 2005

May 17, 2005

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, The next WLUG meeting is coming up fast - Thursday, May 19th, at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. Directions can be found on the WLUG website. At this meeting, our guest speaker will be Jason Schonberg. Jason will give us a talk about Linux on Appliances at this meeting. No, we're not talking about booting Linux on your coffee maker or toaster (or Christmas tree, Chuck). This talk will include a discussion of compiler and development issues for embedded systems. There will also be a demonstration involving the Cobalt Qube2. I'll bring the following items for free give-a-way: - Ubuntu Linux CDs (I still have about 30 of these) - pens from Linux Journal - corkscrews from CodeWeavers - yes, I'm cleaning up !! ...and these items for raffle: - Postal2 - Share the Pain - a video game for Linux http://www.runningwithscissors.com (I can't make it work on my machine) - a Softpro coffee mug Finally, we'll also be raffling off an IBM Netvista computer, with a Pentium III @ 933 MHz, 256 MB memory, CDRW, and DVD ROM. Keyboard and mouse included (no monitor). This machine is currently running Mandriva Linux 10.2 (aka LE2005). After the meeting, we'll go get some pizza. See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCimWyHl0iXDssISsRApyeAJ996M9RQIaVAerhkoLu/xN4hQRw2gCeLMQi 4jg55TRdqznuHcO0XzPng44= =Lnyg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Find command -name
by Karl Hiramoto May 17, 2005

May 17, 2005

Hi all I'm trying to use a command (anything but my best guess now is 'find'). I want to list files that end in the number 8-16 if they exist for example finding names 5-9 is easy: $ find /dev/vc -name [5-9] /dev/vc/9 /dev/vc/8 /dev/vc/7 /dev/vc/6 /dev/vc/5 I'm having problems though with numbers higher than 10. $ find /dev/vc -name [5-16] /dev/vc/6 I only get 6 back.. Any ideas? -thanks

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Partition Question
by Arturo May 12, 2005

May 12, 2005

Hi all, I have a bunch of linux boxes that have the swap partitions that are not of type swap. They are type linux. The OS seems to be swapping just fine on this partition type. Some machines have swap partition that look like this from fdisk /dev/hda6 50810 52890 1048792+ 82 Linux swap Other machines have swap partitions that look like this. /dev/hda6 50810 52890 1048792+ 83 Linux Does anyone have experience with why it would or wouldn't cause issues? Does anyone know what it means to have a partition of type x or y? Is there a difference or is having a partition type mostly there for humans. I would have thought that the partition just defined the limits. Everything else depends on what you do with the partition as far as formatting and defining inodes/FATs and labels... Any ideas? Thanks, Arturo

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Using SAMBA as a PDC
by Chuck Noyes May 12, 2005

May 12, 2005

Hi all, At work, there are several workstations and servers (about 15) running Win2k, Win2k Server, and WinXP. I also have a server running SuSE 9.1 that has Samba 3.0.4 installed. I'm wondering if anyone out there has used Samba as a Primary Domain Controller in a Windows environment? Can Samba be used as a BDC (Backup Domain Controller)? What are the pit-falls? ... Any "war" stories? ... Advice?? Thanks, -Chuck

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Yet Another Perl Conference final details
by Gerard Lim May 11, 2005

May 11, 2005

Hi everyone... This email could be of interest to people interested in the Perl programming language. I know that in Toronto there is a good-sized overlap between Linux people and Perl people (we occasionally hold "joint sessions" of our user group meetings) so we hoped to share this information with Linux folks more widely. There have been some recent developments on the YAPC::NA front, and it has been suggested to us that a reminder might be helpful to some people, so here's a quick summary of the event. Summary ------- YAPC::NA 2005 (Yet Another Perl Conference, North America) in Toronto, Canada, Monday - Wednesday 27 - 29 June, 2005 Home page: http://yapc.org/America/ Conference Location: http://89chestnut.com/ A facility of the University of Toronto Accommodations -------------- Normally registration information would come first, but accommodations are the bottleneck -- our main group reservation (at the conference hotel) expires at the end of the week, and as the conference approaches it will be extremely difficult to find a hotel anywhere in the city. Info on how to book at: http://yapc.org/America/accommodations-2005.shtml Registration ------------ Register now! :-) We are on track to break attendance records at YAPC::NA this year, and we could even sell out before the conference starts. The price for the full 3 days is USD$85. We keep it insanely low through many generous sponsorships and the all-volunteer organizational and speaking crews. Registration info: http://yapc.org/America/register-2005.shtml Direct registration link: http://donate.perlfoundation.org/index.pl?node=registrant%20info&conference… Conference Speaking Schedule ---------------------------- We've got an excellent selection of talks and speakers for Perl programmers of all levels, beginner through expert. We are fortunate enough to have presentations coming from some of the most recognizable names in Perl programming today, including Larry Wall, Chip Salzenberg, Dan Sugalski, Autrijus Tang and brian d foy. Summary -- http://yapc.org/America/schedule-2005/summary.html Day 1 -- http://yapc.org/America/schedule-2005/day1.html Day 2 -- http://yapc.org/America/schedule-2005/day2.html Day 3 -- http://yapc.org/America/schedule-2005/day3.html Lightning Talks --------------- These short (5 minutes each) talks, presented by the conference attendees, are a YAPC tradition. If you're interested please read more about them and sign up: http://www.justanotherperlhacker.org/lightning/ [ This message was sent by Gerard Lim <glim(a)mycybernet.net> on behalf of the YAPC::NA 2005 Conference organizing committee of the Toronto Perl Mongers. Thanks for your patience and support. ]

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Job opportunity
by Andy Stewart May 9, 2005

May 9, 2005

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI all, This job opportunity is in Acton, MA. If interested, please contact the recruiter (Peter Hayward) directly. Andy - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: PLIP presentation Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:00:33 -0400 From: Peter Hayward <phayward(a)virtualiron.com> To: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> Here's the second. Please include contacting me at phayward(a)virtualiron.com <mailto:phayward@virtualiron.com> 508-523-2205 Senior Software Engineer - Linux Kernel Development *Job Description* We are seeking a senior-level software engineer to join our Linux kernel development team. This is a great opportunity to have an exciting career in a fast paced Linux kernel development environment. We are a focused, energetic startup company, founded by industry veterans where working hard, having fun and building a great company are important. *Responsibilities* ? Design and develop software within our Linux kernel development team. ? Apply engineering, programming, and scientific principles to highly complex technical tasks and problems. *Requirements* ? BSCS or BSEE, or equivalent ? Minimum of 3 years of OS kernel development experience. ? Specific development experience in memory management, or drivers/IO strong desired. ? Ability to work in a team-oriented environment. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] *Sent:* Thu 5/5/2005 5:50 PM *To:* Peter Hayward *Subject:* Re: PLIP presentation Peter Hayward wrote: > I was recently playing around looking for Linux Kernel engineers and > found your .org and was curious if I could post our jobs on your site > for Virtual Iron. > Hi Peter, If you send the item to me, I'll post it for you as appropriate. Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCf1PKHl0iXDssISsRAv7ZAJ0SZOZu8CzRPjH1yVGJk9IZMG9VigCfZJWd 0mGsZKoVR0yeGUoNiXYRBbs= =Ou+f -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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SOHO LAN & Multiuser Desktops
by Bob George May 2, 2005

May 2, 2005

I'm successfully using NIS+NFS for a small SOHO LAN serving 4 desktops, a server and printer, plus associated networking. I'm wondering, though, if there's an easier approach to configuring a "Windows replacement" multi-user setup. I do have printing, file sharing and "roaming profiles" working fine, but it's a bit cumbersome so far. Is anyone working with an approach that might be simpler... particularly one well integrated into an existing desktop distribution? - Bob

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gnome-terminal/mutt question & solution
by Bill Mills-Curran May 1, 2005

May 1, 2005

Ok, this is going to read more like a detective novel... :-) I'm using mutt in a gnome-terminal on fedora core 3, and I'm up to date (within a week) with updates. I find that, with the defaults, the terminal does not refresh when it needs to. A ctrl-L repaints the window just fine. I did (just now!) find a fix... Right clicking on the terminal -> Input methods and select "X input method"... Everything works fine, except this setting is not persistent. The setting affects all gnome terminals and new ones opened. However, if I first close all terminals and start a new one, the setting is lost. So, how to make the fix stick? I have no idea, but I did find this info on the subject: http://www.webservertalk.com/archive204-2004-9-379265.html This gives a link to a new terminfo file which you can use to fix the problem, and a nice way to install it without editing the distro-supplied file. Thus far it works fine. Bill

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fedora 1
by Jerome Walczak April 28, 2005

April 28, 2005

Fedora 1 - Realtek card (swapped out the MN-130) - dualboot with Win ME - and working like a charm:) It's so much faster cleaner and better than the old Windows that I wish I could get rid of Win entirely but I know if I do somebody'll complain so it stays. Now - what're good security measures for a public internet terminal (which is basically what it is)? I already have the firewall set at a high level, but what should I do beyond that? Do I need to setup some form of antivirus protection? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005

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Caching DNS
by Chuck Noyes April 26, 2005

April 26, 2005

Hi All, I just installed a caching DNS server at work on a SuSE 9.2 server. It works great. My question is how can I view the contents of the cache? I've "googled" around and looked at the HOWTO docs, but no joy. Thanks, -Chuck

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[OT] Python Jobs
by Jeff Kinz April 25, 2005

April 25, 2005

As some of you may already know I was at Dragon Systems in the mid 90's porting their speech recognition product to the Alpha platform (under NT :( ). The (then) director of software development just posted this to the Exdragons list. > On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 09:50:34AM -0400, Sean True wrote: > > Roger Matus and I wanted to let the exDragon community know that we > > are off and running on our new company, InBoxer, Inc. InBoxer is the > > successor to Audiotrieve, LLC and was created to allow us to focus on > > technologies and products for electronic message filtering. > > Although we will continue to sell our current product, the InBoxer > > spam filter, the investors want us to to build products to help keep > > people from sending inappropriate email messages (think of it as an > > harassment and liability checker that runs before the message leaves > > your machine). > > We are starting to look for technical people: research engineering > > skills, Windows application development, server development, or > > Python experience are particularly interesting. > Hi Sean, > Would you like this passed on to the main Linux groups for MA and NH? > And is any of your development done on Linux or UNIX? In my heart, I would like to do it all on Linux. All shipped code will be on Windows for the foreseeable future. Since it will all be in Python, most of it will be pretty crossplatform. Please pass this along with that caveat. -- Sean Sean True CTO InBoxer, Inc. send replies to: "Sean True" <seant(a)webreply.com> Personal notes: Sean lead software at Dragon during the period of time that their new continuous speech recognition (CSR) product was developed. That product, "Dragon Naturally speaking" is still considered the best "CSR" on the market today. (it is now owned by "ScanSoft") Managing large groups of software developers is never an easy task. At Dragon Sean was an excellent leader who took care of his people. He understands software development from both the developers and business needs perspectives. Full Disclosure: I have no relationship with Sean's company, financial or otherwise. I'm posting this because I believe it will be a good place to work. (even if it is (currently) windows oriented :). -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA.

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New problem! FC3 install
by Jerome Walczak April 25, 2005

April 25, 2005

Jared & everyone - thanks for all your help & advice, I'm going to try Ubuntu I think if I can't get FC 3 to work out. The problem I'm having now is with the FC 3 install. I burned the four cd's and upgraded my old box & everything went fine, a bit slow but fine (install took about an hour). Now I boot up for the first time and as soon as it hits kudzu and checks for newly installed equipment the monitor goes to vertical colored lines. I read that this can be fixed by editing the xorg.conf (or something like that) file & setting everything to defaults & that the issue is basically with the monitor being set at too high a resolution but how do I do that? Anger Is A Gift. -----Original Message----- From: Jared Greenwald [mailto:greenwaldjared@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 2:43 AM To: Jerome Walczak Subject: Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130? That depends on how you characterize "easier to work with"... If you mean - easier to install - you might want to try ubuntu linux (http://ubuntulinux.org) If you mean - easier package management - you might want Gentoo. I have to say that I'm rather biased towards Gentoo - purely because I used it in most of my systems that don't have to be Redhat/Fedora/Suse. (I work for a major software house and our main product is supported on the various Redhat and Suse streams so I have to have some systems running those OSes.) All of my home network servers, and both my home and office desktops are both Gentoo (I'm also currently building a mythtv box - http://mythtv.org - and that's Gentoo also). The biggest thing with Gentoo is that you compile everything - so when a new version of KDE comes out - you compile the whole thing - but you don't actually sit there and run make. The thing that I like the most is that the package management is really good. Everything is designed to pull the source kits (and any patches) directly from the project webpage for a given project. You just tell the install tools that you want to install or upgrade a package and it figures out all of the appropriate dependencies for your system (depending on what you already have installed and some configuration params) then it starts downloading source and building things automagically. Also, since you are building the system up from scratch (there is no gui installer or anything - all command-line) you get to decide exactly what is on your system and exactly how it gets setup. There's about 100 core packages (including kernel source, system logger, cron, etc...) but that doesn't include X or any of those things - which is nice for server installations. I've found that the Fedora installer hides too much for installing servers - for desktops its not really all that clear either. Ubuntu hides everything, but you go into it knowing that and it actually figures out what type of installation its doing (laptop/desktop). I had that on my laptop for a while and it ran really well - there's not much package selection there - its more a pre-canned set of binaries depending on your system type (it even knew to download the gnome battery applet for monitoring my laptop battery). So, now that I've sufficiently confused you... did that help at all? Keep in mind that I wrote this at 2:45A - so it might be a little incoherent and rambling... Let me know whatever questions you have and I'll try to answer them... -Jarred -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005

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FW: MN-130?
by Jerome Walczak April 23, 2005

April 23, 2005

OK here we go - I'm a Linux newbie &'ve used Mandrake in the past occasionally but that's about it. I've installed Fedora 1 on an old computer at work but it has an MN-130 network card & the system isn't recognizing that it's there. According to a couple articles I've checked I need to edit the Tulip driver (tulip_core.c) & add a line of code at line 201. I did this and then checked the dependencies & typed modules_install & restarted the system & STILL the network card didn't show up. What am I doing wrong? Does anyone have any advice to get me out of this frustration? I'm very close to swapping out the card for another one that's more likely to work but I'd like to avoid that if possible ... Can anybody help? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005

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Job opportunity
by Andy Stewart April 21, 2005

April 21, 2005

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If interested, please reply directly to Elizabeth Holland (eholland(a)agencourt.com) - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: job opportunity Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:48:22 -0400 From: Elizabeth Holland <eholland(a)agencourt.com> Reply-To: eholland(a)agencourt.com <eholland(a)agencourt.com> Organization: Agencourt Bioscience To: andystewart(a)comcast.net <andystewart(a)comcast.net> Andy I received your name from a web search for Linux users. We currently have a job opening some of your members may be interested it. If you could pass the below job around, I would appreciate it. Thanks Agencourt Bioscience Corporation, located in Beverly, Massachusetts, is a trusted provider of genomic services and nucleic acid purification products. We are dedicated to designing solutions for overcoming all of our clients' current and future discovery challenges. Agencourt is a dynamic and growing company that is committed to providing employees with a fast paced environment and a fun place to work. As a result of our significant growth, we have an immediate need for a *Research Programmer* * * The role of Programmer will be to support an in-house R&D effort to develop a new DNA sequencing technology. We seek a productive programmer who enjoys working in an academic style collaborative environment and meets the requirements listed below. BS or higher in Math, Science, or Engineering Proficiency in Linux Experience with most of the following: C/C++, VB, PERL, Python, Java, PHP, MySQL, MatLab/Mathematica Interested candidates should send a resume and cover letter with salary requirements to hr(a)agencourt.com <mailto:hr@agencourt.com> . Job Code RSP - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCaBsWHl0iXDssISsRAouQAJ9NQdHoLtqLJ9Hh1IJEFXwfO/rTugCfQCB8 p3axC/FvG7HMpmCjHmPd33c= =zeO0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re-iterate my topic idea
by Mike Leo April 21, 2005

April 21, 2005

hi ya'll! After the utter silence from my last topic suggestion, you would think I wouldn't bring it up again, but... I have many very basic questions I would like to work through with you experts. Things like: kernel compiling/patching kernel-source vs kernel-headers frame buffers compiling software and USE flags lilo vs grub bootsplash WM/DE driver installs (NVidia/ATI) Again, I don't mind leading the discussion, but it would be boring as heck if I as the speaker just stood up there and asked questions and took notes as the audience did the talking. Thanks Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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HOWTO DVD slides from March 2005 presentation
by Andy Stewart April 18, 2005

April 18, 2005

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, I have just posted the slides from last month's presentation about how to make DVDs with video content. I apologize for being a slowpoke about this. To find information about previous presentations, go to the WLUG home page, and scroll down to "Slides from Previous meetings" and click appropriately. Enjoy! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCYwvQHl0iXDssISsRAlU9AJ9MCUnlMHLcb5VAJhSoz3nQ0HjQWQCfR07o XK6Mg/AZ1WNyPBpIwFOt0tk= =pO17 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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REMINDER: Upcoming meeting
by Andy Stewart April 16, 2005

April 16, 2005

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody, There is a WLUG meeting coming up on Wednesday, April 20th, at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. This meeting is open to anybody with an interest in Linux. I'm still looking for a speaker for this meeting. If you are interested in volunteering, please contact me ASAP. If we don't have a speaker, we'll have to find a way to amuse ourselves. :-) Volunteer speakers get free food after the meeting. I recently received a large package from the Netherlands. It contains 100 Ubuntu Linux CD sets (version 4.10 from November 2004) to give away. Bring home 5 - 10 of them for your friends - I'm not kidding! Check out http://www.ubuntulinux.org for more information. Each set contains 2 CDs - one is a live eval CD similar to Knoppix, while the other one is used to install Ubuntu on your system. Feel free to stop in just to get some CDs (but I hope you'll stay for the meeting!). Ubuntu is Debian based with Gnome as the default desktop. I'll also bring two books for the free raffle: Sendmail Milters by Bryan Costales and Marcia Flynt Published by Addison Wesley PHPH-Nuke Garage by Don Jones Published by Prentice Hall Well, that's about it. I'm hoping we get a speaker, and when we do, I'll send out an email to the group. See ya on Wednesday! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCYUy4Hl0iXDssISsRAgvnAJ0Qs2w7QsipfDVY02bOnx9fqcevGgCdG9zr 9sPpzie+0+uWCstQLf9Ue/g= =eEo0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: A OpenSSH question. --> Solution
by joel d April 13, 2005

April 13, 2005

Hi, First a hearty thank you to all that replied to my conundrum. Here is how I got past the problem of my (FreeBSD 5.3 Release) OpenSSH's "sshd" key errors, not loading at startup: 1) I had an incorrect line in /etc/rc.conf. One problem for me was an incorrect path to the program. The correct lines that mattered were: sshd_program=/usr/sbin/sshd sshd_enable="YES" 2) I also did not have correct keys generated for the sshd aplication. Based upon your helpful e-mails and the man pages I found the following worked just fine to create the SSHV2 dsa host key: ssh-keygen -t dsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key 3) Also, based upon recommendations I turned off DNS lookup by my sshd server in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file. UseDNS no All is well here and my adventure helps someone else some day. Correcting these problems got my Putty and WinSCP connections down to around 2-3 seconds (from around 80-90 seconds). Thanks again for the excellent advice from WLUG, Joel Desrochers

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A OpenSSH question.
by joel d April 8, 2005

April 8, 2005

Hi, I am running into a problem trying to setup OpenSSH 3.6.1 on FreeBSD 5.3 release. I am connecting via clients (both ssh on BSD and WinSCP on Windows). I know this is not a FreeBSD group, but I bet someone else has run into this problem on a Unix-like platform. When I test the server with "sshd -ddd", I get an error back from the server which reads: debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key I have tried creating the above server key many times with no apparent luck. The clients connect to the server but the connect time is way over 60 seconds so I am bummed out. I have looked on the OpenSSH site and googled for it but have not found a workable solution. Any ideas would be appreciated, Thank you, Joel

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RE: Communication between HiTech and others
by albutler33＠netscape.net April 8, 2005

April 8, 2005

wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Subject: [Wlug] Communication between "HiTech" and anyone not in the club. >Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:06:31 -0400 >From: Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >WLUG members: > >There is one HiTech issue about which I am passionate and frustrated. >It is the lack of understanding in the Fitchburg Public School District >of the management efficiencies that are now "best practices"in the >commercial world. I am sure that the Fitchburg case is typical of most >Massachusetts public school districts. > >Our School Committee beats up on the Superintendent over the cost of >multiple Administrators. No one sees that this cost could be contained >if improvements were to be made in the architecture of their internal >network, the structures of their data bases and the training of their >administrators. > >Part of the problem is that the voting public does not understand >either. This is perfect opportunity for the commercial LINUX community >to garner some very good press. If Red Hat, for example, were to team >with the Fitchburg Public School District to implement places where >LINUX is a better answer than M$, it could get general media coverage >as well as Education publication notice. > >My observation is that little trust worthy technical information passes >between HiTech and those who manage our public schools. I would like to >work at bridging that communication gap. > >Ken Jones >kjones(a)ziplink.net > Ken, As a self-proclaimed Open Source advocate and up-and-coming consultant,let me know if there's anything I can do to help you bridge the gap. Al Butler Custom Linux Solutions > >Subject: [Wlug] [Fwd: (Google) Sr. Linux Cluster System Admin. & Sr.Software Engineer/UnixSystem & Network Administrator (2 Job Openings)] >Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 08:41:04 -0400 >From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > > > >HI Everybody, > >If you have any interest in either of these job openings at Google, >please respond to todv(a)google.com, as noted below. > >Later, > >Andy > > > > >- -------- Original Message -------- >Subject: (Google) Sr. Linux Cluster System Admin. & Sr. Software >Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator (2 Job Openings) >Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 19:13:53 -0700 >From: Tod Vanlandingham <todv(a)google.com> >To: <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > > > > >Andy, > > > > >I was curious if you would be open to distributing the 2 job >descriptions below to all of your UG members (via your site). I will >personally respond to each person that is interested in either opening. > >* * > >Thank you, > > > > >Tod Vanlandingham > >Recruiter > >Google > >(650) 253-4291 > >todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> > >* * > >* * > >* * > >* * > >* * > >*Company: Google * > >*Contact: Tod Vanlandingham* > >*Email: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> * > >*Website: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/eng/reli.html* > >* * > >*Job Title: * > >* * > >*(Google) Linux Cluster Systems Administrator/Expert Scripter* > >*Positions based in Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland > >* > >*Relocation a must. Assistance provided*. > >Google's Cluster Operations team is looking for talented system >administrators to help administer Google's complex, proprietary >clustering technologies. Literally thousands of Linux servers power the >technology behind Google.com, and it's a real challenge to administer >these effectively. Google's Cluster Operations team needs seasoned >system administrators to automate complex tasks across a huge cluster. > >Responsibilities: > >* automation of tasks as much as possible through the development of >scripts and administration tools >* configuration of system and network parameters >* monitoring of system stability and performance >* ensuring 24x7 operation of our cluster >* comprehensive documentation of our procedures > >Requirements: > >* B.S. in Computer Science, or equivalent experience >* 5+ years experience with Linux Systems Administration >*Deep understanding of networking i.e.: understanding of how to isolate, >diagnose, and resolve service delivery components (service delivery >components include servers, networks, and applications); be familiar >with the functionality, operating, and failure modes of key networking >devices (routers, switches, bridges, firewalls, hardware load >balancers); be able to identify networking as the potential cause of a >service issue using server-resident tools to generate this data (i.e. >tcpdump, ping, traceroute, etc.); familiarity in interpreting the output >of these tools; familiarity with common network topologies, protocols, >and tools; have some notion of common network security exploits -- and >their remedies; understanding of troubleshooting at the packet level; >intimate knowledge of TCP/IP networking >* strong programming and scripting ability (Python, Perl, bash) >* excellent verbal and written skills >* outstanding customer service abilities > >Please Email resumes to: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> > > > > > > >Job location is Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >*Company: Google * > >*Contact: Tod Vanlandingham* > >*Email: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> * > >*Website: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/eng/reli.html* > >* * > >* * > >*Job Title: * > >* * > >*(Google) Senior Software Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator, >Google.com (SRE)* > >* * > >*Positions based in Mountain View, CA and Dublin Ireland. * > >* * > >*Relocation a must. Assistance provided*. > >Are you part ace coder, part adrenalin junkie? Do you have a knack for >seeing a problem and immediately discerning the likely solution? Maybe >you've been coding for years, are bored with the old >design-build-review-test-ship-repeat routine, and yearn for some >faster-paced challenges? Or perhaps you're a seasoned software engineer >who is also a genius at jockeying networks and administering > >UNIX clusters. > > > > >We're looking for top-notch thrill seeking, software engineers to join >the Google.com team. Google.com engineers are in the thick of everything >involved with keeping Google running, from code-level troubleshooting of >traffic anomalies to maintenance of our most cutting edge services; from >monitoring and alerts to building new automation infrastructure. We are >aggressively building this elite team of high level engineers in this >mission critical environment. > >All team members must have strong analytical and troubleshooting skills, >fluency in coding, good communication skills, and most of all enthusiasm >for tackling the complex problems of scale which are uniquely Google. >Google.com engineers tackle challenging, novel situations every day, and >work with just about every other engineering and operations team in the >process. > > > > >Qualifications: > > > > >Strong programming/scripting skills in any of the following: C, C++, Java, > >Perl, Python > > > > >Senior Level experience with UNIX system administration. > > > > >Strong understanding of networking; -Deep understanding of networking, >understanding of how to isolate, diagnose, and resolve service delivery >components (service delivery components include servers, networks, and >applications); be familiar with the functionality, operating, and >failure modes of key networking devices (routers, switches, bridges, >firewalls, hardware load balancers); be able to identify networking as >the potential cause of a service issue using server-resident tools to >generate this data (tcpdump, ping, traceroute, etc.); familiarity in >interpreting the output of these tools; familiarity with common network >topologies, protocols, and tools; have some notion of common network >security exploits -- and their remedies; understanding of >troubleshooting at the packet level. > > > > >Strong project management skills, especially in deploying live end-user >systems. > > > > >In-depth knowledge of UNIX (preferably Linux), and shell scripting. >Proven technical troubleshooting experience. > >.Excellent analytic ability, strong communication skills, and a strong >sense of urgency. > > > > >Ability to handle periodic on-call duty as well as out-of-band requests. > > > > >6-15+ years experience for Senior SWE position, OR 3-8 years experience for > >SWE position. > > > > >BA/BS in CS, or equivalent experience. > > > > >Please Email resumes to: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> > > > > >Job location is Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland > > > > > > > > > > >Thank you, > > > > >Tod Vanlandingham >Google > >Talent Acquisition >(650) 253-4291 > >todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> > > > > ><http://www.google.com/> > >Media Coverage: > >http://www.google.com/press/press.html ><BLOCKED::http://www.google.com/press/press.html> >Corporate Overview: http://www.google.com/corporate/index.html ><BLOCKED::http://www.google.com/corporate/index.html> >Top 10 Reasons to Work at Google: http://www.google.com/jobs/reasons.html > >Work Life Balance : http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/balance.html > >Looking for interesting work that matters to millions of people? >http://www.google.com/jobs/great-people-needed.html > > > > > > > > > > > > >- -- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA, USA >http://www.wlug.org > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > >iD8DBQFCVnvfHl0iXDssISsRAg6zAJ9ctAIgxYaYGHHS7RVzTaFz+YBvPACffqfq >z6L151kbWzBPLSuFyr77So0= >=mwwr >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] [Fwd: (Google) Sr. Linux Cluster System Admin. & Sr.Software Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator (2 JobOpenings)] >Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:34:02 -0400 >From: Jared Greenwald <greenwaldjared(a)gmail.com> >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >If only this was in the Northeast... > >On Apr 8, 2005 8:41 AM, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> HI Everybody, >> >> If you have any interest in either of these job openings at Google, >> please respond to todv(a)google.com, as noted below. >> >> Later, >> >> Andy >> >> - -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: (Google) Sr. Linux Cluster System Admin. & Sr. Software >> Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator (2 Job Openings) >> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 19:13:53 -0700 >> From: Tod Vanlandingham <todv(a)google.com> >> To: <andystewart(a)comcast.net> >> >> Andy, >> >> I was curious if you would be open to distributing the 2 job >> descriptions below to all of your UG members (via your site). I will >> personally respond to each person that is interested in either opening. >> >> * * >> >> Thank you, >> >> Tod Vanlandingham >> >> Recruiter >> >> Google >> >> (650) 253-4291 >> >> todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> *Company: Google * >> >> *Contact: Tod Vanlandingham* >> >> *Email: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> * >> >> *Website: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/eng/reli.html* >> >> * * >> >> *Job Title: * >> >> * * >> >> *(Google) Linux Cluster Systems Administrator/Expert Scripter* >> >> *Positions based in Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland >> >> * >> >> *Relocation a must. Assistance provided*. >> >> Google's Cluster Operations team is looking for talented system >> administrators to help administer Google's complex, proprietary >> clustering technologies. Literally thousands of Linux servers power the >> technology behind Google.com, and it's a real challenge to administer >> these effectively. Google's Cluster Operations team needs seasoned >> system administrators to automate complex tasks across a huge cluster. >> >> Responsibilities: >> >> * automation of tasks as much as possible through the development of >> scripts and administration tools >> * configuration of system and network parameters >> * monitoring of system stability and performance >> * ensuring 24x7 operation of our cluster >> * comprehensive documentation of our procedures >> >> Requirements: >> >> * B.S. in Computer Science, or equivalent experience >> * 5+ years experience with Linux Systems Administration >> *Deep understanding of networking i.e.: understanding of how to isolate, >> diagnose, and resolve service delivery components (service delivery >> components include servers, networks, and applications); be familiar >> with the functionality, operating, and failure modes of key networking >> devices (routers, switches, bridges, firewalls, hardware load >> balancers); be able to identify networking as the potential cause of a >> service issue using server-resident tools to generate this data (i.e. >> tcpdump, ping, traceroute, etc.); familiarity in interpreting the output >> of these tools; familiarity with common network topologies, protocols, >> and tools; have some notion of common network security exploits -- and >> their remedies; understanding of troubleshooting at the packet level; >> intimate knowledge of TCP/IP networking >> * strong programming and scripting ability (Python, Perl, bash) >> * excellent verbal and written skills >> * outstanding customer service abilities >> >> Please Email resumes to: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> >> >> Job location is Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland >> >> - >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> *Company: Google * >> >> *Contact: Tod Vanlandingham* >> >> *Email: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> * >> >> *Website: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/eng/reli.html* >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> *Job Title: * >> >> * * >> >> *(Google) Senior Software Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator, >> Google.com (SRE)* >> >> * * >> >> *Positions based in Mountain View, CA and Dublin Ireland. * >> >> * * >> >> *Relocation a must. Assistance provided*. >> >> Are you part ace coder, part adrenalin junkie? Do you have a knack for >> seeing a problem and immediately discerning the likely solution? Maybe >> you've been coding for years, are bored with the old >> design-build-review-test-ship-repeat routine, and yearn for some >> faster-paced challenges? Or perhaps you're a seasoned software engineer >> who is also a genius at jockeying networks and administering >> >> UNIX clusters. >> >> We're looking for top-notch thrill seeking, software engineers to join >> the Google.com team. Google.com engineers are in the thick of everything >> involved with keeping Google running, from code-level troubleshooting of >> traffic anomalies to maintenance of our most cutting edge services; from >> monitoring and alerts to building new automation infrastructure. We are >> aggressively building this elite team of high level engineers in this >> mission critical environment. >> >> All team members must have strong analytical and troubleshooting skills, >> fluency in coding, good communication skills, and most of all enthusiasm >> for tackling the complex problems of scale which are uniquely Google. >> Google.com engineers tackle challenging, novel situations every day, and >> work with just about every other engineering and operations team in the >> process. >> >> Qualifications: >> >> Strong programming/scripting skills in any of the following: C, C++, Java, >> >> Perl, Python >> >> Senior Level experience with UNIX system administration. >> >> Strong understanding of networking; -Deep understanding of networking, >> understanding of how to isolate, diagnose, and resolve service delivery >> components (service delivery components include servers, networks, and >> applications); be familiar with the functionality, operating, and >> failure modes of key networking devices (routers, switches, bridges, >> firewalls, hardware load balancers); be able to identify networking as >> the potential cause of a service issue using server-resident tools to >> generate this data (tcpdump, ping, traceroute, etc.); familiarity in >> interpreting the output of these tools; familiarity with common network >> topologies, protocols, and tools; have some notion of common network >> security exploits -- and their remedies; understanding of >> troubleshooting at the packet level. >> >> Strong project management skills, especially in deploying live end-user >> systems. >> >> In-depth knowledge of UNIX (preferably Linux), and shell scripting. >> Proven technical troubleshooting experience. >> >> .Excellent analytic ability, strong communication skills, and a strong >> sense of urgency. >> >> Ability to handle periodic on-call duty as well as out-of-band requests. >> >> 6-15+ years experience for Senior SWE position, OR 3-8 years experience for >> >> SWE position. >> >> BA/BS in CS, or equivalent experience. >> >> Please Email resumes to: todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> >> >> Job location is Mountain View, California or Dublin, Ireland >> >> Thank you, >> >> Tod Vanlandingham >> Google >> >> Talent Acquisition >> (650) 253-4291 >> >> todv(a)google.com <mailto:todv@google.com> >> >> <http://www.google.com/> >> >> Media Coverage: >> >> http://www.google.com/press/press.html >> <BLOCKED::http://www.google.com/press/press.html> >> Corporate Overview: http://www.google.com/corporate/index.html >> <BLOCKED::http://www.google.com/corporate/index.html> >> Top 10 Reasons to Work at Google: http://www.google.com/jobs/reasons.html >> >> Work Life Balance : http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/balance.html >> >> Looking for interesting work that matters to millions of people? >> http://www.google.com/jobs/great-people-needed.html >> >> - -- >> Andy Stewart, Founder >> Worcester Linux Users' Group >> Worcester, MA, USA >> http://www.wlug.org >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >> >> iD8DBQFCVnvfHl0iXDssISsRAg6zAJ9ctAIgxYaYGHHS7RVzTaFz+YBvPACffqfq >> z6L151kbWzBPLSuFyr77So0= >> =mwwr >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. 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