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Meeting topic
by Mike Leo 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

Not a technical one, but I have been coming to meetings for maybe a year now, and have not had a chance to introduce myself, and more importantly, haven't found out who you all are. With no topic tonight, can we just have an re-introduction of the members so we know who these emails are coming from? thanks

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Tonight's meeting
by rich＠richardklein.org 12 Apr '06

12 Apr '06

I've never been to a WLUG meeting before. It's okay for a member of the general public to just show up, right? On a different note, I was trying to set up the Cyrus mail server under Suse 9.2 and have been having a hell of a time with it. I set it aside about 2 weeks ago and haven't gotten back to it. If I bring the PC with me, would anyone be able and willing to help me configure Cyrus properly (or maybe the problem's with PAM - I don't know)? I suppose I could set it up at home for someone to access via VNC or something, too. Thanks, -- Rich

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Recycling centers
by John Stoffel 12 Apr '06

12 Apr '06

Anyone have a good suggestion for a place to recycle junk computers cheaply. I've got a pile of dead equipment starting to fill my garage and now that it's spring, it's time to get rid of it all. Most of it actually works, it's just all P133 or PIIs and they're not worth the effort to keep running any more. Plus I've got some work stuff to get rid of too, monitors and such. John

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Meeting Wed Apr 12 7PM WPI
by Andy Stewart 11 Apr '06

11 Apr '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Our WLUG meeting will be on Wednesday, April 12 at 7:00 PM in "the usual place" (Access Grid Room, WPI campus, Worcester, MA USA). I hope a few people will be there who attended Linux Expo in Boston - I'm curious to hear about it, and I hope others are as well. Bring your Linux questions - you can ask the group and I'm sure somebody will have an answer. All Linux related topics are fair game at this meeting! I'll bring a few items for raffle (and others might also...). We'll adjourn to the Tech Pizza restaurant after the meeting. See ya soon, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEPB2THl0iXDssISsRAsqBAJ4vvwT1eRhB7/f/SZiMqNENj+K42gCbBJyF sTKbC8tnSRJ6f7hGgsCz7ck= =982L -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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network bandwidth monitor
by Mike Leo 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

A few meetings ago, someone had a network bandwidth monitor...anyone remember what it was? it was not nload or iftop, but something else that i can't think of! can you remember?

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 30, Issue 1
by David Hardy 09 Apr '06

09 Apr '06

> > I think the idea about PDAs is cool, and would also be interested in > hearing about experiences with multimedia, especially downloaded music > files. I'm trying to help one of my brothers with his new home-built Fedora > Core Four box; he's loving it so fah but having a spot of frustration with > getting music files humming. And also, IMHO, security is always a good area to look at as we all are forced to deal with it on a daily, if not hourly, basis now. Dave Hardy Today's Topics: > > 1. Upcoming meeting agenda (or lack thereof) (Andy Stewart) > 2. Re: Upcoming meeting agenda (or lack thereof) (Adam Keck) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:42:08 -0400 > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting agenda (or lack thereof) > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <4437E7E0.6040004(a)comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > HI Everybody, > > We have a meeting coming up soon, but so far, there is neither a speaker > nor a topic for the meeting. If anybody has any last minute ideas, > please speak up! We've had a couple of excellent meetings recently, and > I'm hopeful that we can keep the ball rolling. > > Thanks! > > Andy > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFEN+fgHl0iXDssISsRAiAiAJ0T0GXOGldn8iCOeBedVQIk2cuJDgCdEecw > /xFC7tbM2qUayVWs57ffD9g= > =Eyqp > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:17:17 -0400 > From: Adam Keck <ghostis(a)mac.com> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting agenda (or lack thereof) > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <200604082317.17449.ghostis(a)mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello All, > > Would it be possible for someone to present the state-of-the-art > of Linux on > PDAs? > > - Adam > > > On Saturday 08 April 2006 12:42, Andy Stewart wrote: > > > > HI Everybody, > > > > We have a meeting coming up soon, but so far, there is neither a speaker > > nor a topic for the meeting. If anybody has any last minute ideas, > > please speak up! We've had a couple of excellent meetings recently, and > > I'm hopeful that we can keep the ball rolling. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Andy > > > > -- > > Andy Stewart, Founder > > Worcester Linux Users' Group > > Worcester, MA, USA > > http://www.wlug.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 30, Issue 1 > *********************************** >

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Upcoming meeting agenda (or lack thereof)
by Andy Stewart 09 Apr '06

09 Apr '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, We have a meeting coming up soon, but so far, there is neither a speaker nor a topic for the meeting. If anybody has any last minute ideas, please speak up! We've had a couple of excellent meetings recently, and I'm hopeful that we can keep the ball rolling. Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEN+fgHl0iXDssISsRAiAiAJ0T0GXOGldn8iCOeBedVQIk2cuJDgCdEecw /xFC7tbM2qUayVWs57ffD9g= =Eyqp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Sad news...
by Andy Stewart 22 Mar '06

22 Mar '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Doug Waud passed away peacefully yesterday evening at his home, with his family and relatives in attendance. Doug had been an active member of WLUG for the last several years. For those who don't get the Worcester Telegram, I thought I would include information on funeral arrangements: Calling hours Wednesday (tomorrow) from 7-9 PM and Thursday (3/23/06) from 2-4 PM & 7-9 PM, at Britton's Funeral Home, 648 Main Street, Shrewsbury, MA, 508-845-6226 The funeral will be this Friday (3/24/06) at 11:00 AM, at the First Congregational Church of Shrewsbury, 19 Church Road (on the common at the intersection of Main St. and Rt. 140) - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEIJnHHl0iXDssISsRAhCfAJ9Z0oI9HDGvN4LbwHviJHfiUqv/JgCeMiy+ wTJPN7brZ/mpGnGLqg12p3Y= =XwDm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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maxing out the cpu
by Mike Leo 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

2 meetings ago, someone was trying to push the cpu of Andy's homemade router to 100% using a for/loop of some sort....can someone remind me of the syntax of that? while true; do; done or something similar? thanks

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FreeBSD snd_emu10k1 issues
by TheLobster 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

Hey, I currently have FreeBSD 6.1 installed. I have a sound blaster audiology 2 and in order to use it on previous linux and freebsd installs I needed to load snd_emu10k1 into the kernel. When i run "kldload snd_emu10k1" as root, the computer completely freezes up. Gnome doesn't respond, no keyboard responce (Alt+Backspace or Ctrl+alt+F1) and everything seams to lockup. Any suggestions on how to fix this? Bob -- --------------- Bob Breznak 908 672 2841 robert.breznak(a)gmail.com IIsAGeek.Com Crimson Key LnL Webmaster Masque Webmaster TechNews Webmaster BiLaGa Webmaster Guerrilla Improv SCP Rep Guerrilla Improv Webmaster

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REMINDER: Upcoming meeting Wed Mar 15 7:00 PM
by Andy Stewart 13 Mar '06

13 Mar '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Its that time again for a WLUG meeting! At this month's meeting, WLUG member Frank Sweetser will be presenting "Wireless Networking Security". Frank will be doing a quick overview of some of the major security related issues in setting up a wireless network, the major vulnerabilities (WEP weaknesses in particular), and ways to close up the holes. He will also include a brief demo of Back Track, a bootable linux CD that includes numerous security related tools, and use it crack a WEP key. Frank is a Network Engineer at WPI, where his duties include Linux administration and the care and feeding of the campus wireless network. I'll bring a book for the no cost raffle: The Official Samba-3 HOWTO and Reference Manual 2nd Edition ISBN: 0-13-188222-8 Published by Prentice Hall After the meeting, we'll go out to the Tech Pizza restaurant to enjoy pizza, soda, and conversation on a variety of topics (including Linux!). See ya at the meeting! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEFOlsHl0iXDssISsRAretAJ4v2SVLPuKOredGZ/89Me7eTdDgfwCfcjNT jIu8JKcO5IBeih8LoAA76Sg= =aN9b -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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problems with smb export on external usb drive
by Jim Dibb 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

I had a drive with an ext3 filesystem in an old p2 running RH8 storing my mp3 files. I moved the drive into a USB enclosure attached to a laptop running FC4. The laptop mounted the fs on /media/media pretty much automatically. The problem is I can't export the /media/media FS with samba to mount on a windows host. I can export /media, and the xp box can see /media/cdrecorder, but /media/media is invisible. I have the following in various config files: from mount: automount(pid2427) on /net type autofs (rw,fd=4,pgrp=2427,minproto=2,maxproto=4) /dev/sda1 on /media/media type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,_netdev,user=jim) in /etc/fstab: /dev/sda1 /media/media ext3 pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed 0 0 /dev/hdc /media/cdrecorder auto pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed 0 0 ls: [root@linuxlaptop /]# ls -al /media total 32 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Mar 5 21:32 . drwxr-xr-x 27 root root 4096 Mar 5 11:13 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 5 11:14 cdrecorder drwxrwxrwx 247 root root 8192 Mar 1 09:29 media in smb.conf: ( I did have /media/media) [media] path = /media writeable = yes browseable = yes valid users = jim in /var/logs/samba/ (when path above was /media/media) [2006/02/28 21:03:28, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(615) '/media/media' does not exist or is not a directory, when connecting to [media] Since I have a copy of the files on my xp box now, I was thinking of destroying the fs and recreating it, then putting all the data back. I just find it very strange that with the above smb.conf, I can mount /media as media on my xp box and I can see the cdrecorder directory but I can't see the media directory. Any advice on what might be wrong? Thanks.

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Adding repositories?
by Bill Mills-Curran 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

I've added a new repository (or two) to my yum config, and I'm feeling a bit exposed. I wonder what other WLUG members do about additional repositories. In an effort to support vlc, I had added the livna repository, and when that stopped working (after recent fedora updates), I found that switching from livna to dries helped. Now I notice that there are quite a few packages from dries that will update fedora packages. So, I'm feeling a bit worried. Does anyone have a sense of how much these repositories should be trusted? TIA, Bill

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Bluetooth hardware recomendations
by Karl Hiramoto 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

I need a blue tooth interface for my PC, and wondering if anyone has any brands, or hardware chip sets to recommend. I will probably buy a USB or PCMCIA interface. Buying something USB though would allow me to use it in both my desktop and laptop, where only my laptop has PCMCIA. Bluetooth devices i want to hook too, claims it is something like rs-232 serial output over bluetooth, but i gota figure that out. After that i may try with a digicam or mobile phone. -- --- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk=karl.hiramoto(a)gmail.com ------

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Help with Fedora Core3 -> Core4
by Ken Jones 05 Mar '06

05 Mar '06

Yesterday I transitioned from Core3 to Core4. My sound disappeared. Core4 is shipped without the kernel source code. I have a special sound driver for my Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live EMU10k1X card. The driver is Open Sound System from <http://www.opensound.com/>. It needs to be compiled with the kernel. I sent the soundconfig.log to the Help Desk. --------------Open Sound's Help Desk wrote---------------- Hi, You don't have the kernel source RPM, otherwise OSS would not be complaining: > make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1833_FC4/source: No such file or directory. Stop. > make: [ossbuild] Error 2 (ignored) > make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source SUBDIRS=/usr/lib/oss/kbuild CC="gcc" modules > make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1833_FC4/source: No such file or directory. Stop. Please install the kernel source RPM and then get the REGPARM version of OSS. ---------------------end snip---------------------------------------- I downloaded and installed <kernel-2.6.15-1.1833_FC4.src.rpm>. Since then I have been thrashing around without success. I would appreciate an email from anyone who has a moment to help. It does not seem appropriate to foist further details onto this whole list. Ken Jones

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Re: Help with Fedora Core3 -> Core4
by Ken Jones 04 Mar '06

04 Mar '06

Got it! Remember Open Sound System stopped working when I went from Core3 to Core4? Now it works. I had also upgraded the kernel. This was a problem because OSS needs to compile with the kernel. I missed some of the modules needed for a successful compilation. The system would not work with ALSA. I think my sound card is unique for some reason. ALSA needed to be disabled before OSS would work. OSS help desk Dev Mazumdar was very helpful. Thanks, you all, for being there. Ken Jones

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test -- ignore
by Bill Mills-Curran 04 Mar '06

04 Mar '06

Sorry to waste bandwidth.

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Stupid test, please excuse
by kwright＠keithdiane.us 04 Mar '06

04 Mar '06

I just posted something that got rejected because I am not a member (it says). I recently changed the address of the subscription. This is to test that I can properly impersonate myself. -- Keith

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RE: [Wlug] Reminder: Upcoming WLUG meeting THURSDAY 7:00 PM
by Minkov, Ross 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

FYI: --------------------------------------------------------------- LinuxWorld Boston - Special offer for Linux Magazine readers REGISTER today with Priority Code H0103 to receive your special 20% discount at http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/register --------------------------------------------------------------- I want to go to LinuxWorld too, but I'm still waiting on my management approval... :( If they don't approve I'm not paying out of my own pocket... -Ross -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:02 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Reminder: Upcoming WLUG meeting THURSDAY 7:00 PM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, <snip> Oh, BTW, Linux world is coming up in Boston during the first week of April. I've received a couple of emails from the Linux world folks. Does anybody have any interest in representing WLUG at this event? I'd like to go, but it depends on whether or not I can get the time off from work. Are people planning to go, because I think we can get a group discount of some kind. I'll print the emails and bring them to the meeting so we can discuss it. I'll post the info to the list afterwards. See ya later, Andy

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Perl puzzle
by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

Hi. I've been spending far too much time trying to accomplish a (seemingly) simple thing: use a Perl substitution operation to replace, a comma followed by a space followed by a single double-quote with a single double-quote. The obvious s/, "/"/g doesn't work, nor does escaping the double-quotes, as in s/, \"/\"/g I must have tried dozens of variations. RE's can be tough at times. Late last night I had to admit defeat. Any ideas? Thanks, Doug

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RE: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh
by Minkov, Ross 27 Feb '06

27 Feb '06

You are right... I think it was too late when I wrote that... LOL -Ross -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Theo Van Dinter Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:47 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 12:58:19AM -0500, Minkov, Ross wrote: > > There's no per-user config to specify what authentication methods are > > allowed. It's a global setting. > > You can specify per user ssh config settings in $USER/.ssh/conifg file. > The user's configuration file overwrites the system-wide configuration > file (/etc/ssh/ssh_config) settings for that user. For the client side, yes, you can do that. However, there is nothing like that for the server side which is what has been discussed so far. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "So, the long and short of it--if you have one sysadmin, you have a "system administrator." If you have two sysadmins, you have two "system administrators." If you have two thousand sysadmins, you're at LISA." - Trey Harris <Pine.LNX.4.30.0105091748220.27344-100000(a)shells.valinux.com>

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RE: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh
by Minkov, Ross 23 Feb '06

23 Feb '06

> You can put a "*" in the password field of the user and then it's a > locked account, but pubkey will still work. Yes, this works, I use it all the time. Just a note that the "*" needs to go in the /etc/shadow file, not in /etc/passwd. > There's no per-user config to specify what authentication methods are > allowed. It's a global setting. You can specify per user ssh config settings in $USER/.ssh/conifg file. The user's configuration file overwrites the system-wide configuration file (/etc/ssh/ssh_config) settings for that user. Make sure that $USER/.ssh/conifg is owned by $USER and perms are set to 600. For example you can add "PasswordAuthentication no" to $USER/.ssh/conifg and disable password auth for $USER, while leaving "PasswordAuthentication yes" (this is the default) in the system-wide configuration file (/etc/ssh/ssh_config). -Ross -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Theo Van Dinter Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 5:24 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:15:55PM -0500, Eric Stein wrote: > automated account: public key login only (no password authentication > allowed - yeah, I know I can just set the password to something really > big and hope nobody guesses, but the point of pub/priv key auth is > higher security) You can put a "*" in the password field of the user and then it's a locked account, but pubkey will still work. There's no per-user config to specify what authentication methods are allowed. It's a global setting. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Abnegation is un-American. We're going to drive the vehicle we want, wear what we want, consume as much as necessary, worship whomever we choose, and show as much cleavage as possible in beer commercials." - http://www.fool.com/News/Foth/2003/foth030203.htm?source=EDNWFH

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Progress and success
by Marie I MacDonald 23 Feb '06

23 Feb '06

Greetings all, I thought I'd write and update you on my newbie experience with Linux et. al. To refresh your memory, my old laptop died just as I had been given a new Linux box and just before the Spring semester had started. I really was feeling stressed. But here are some high points of the past month: * Novell distro installed (and reinstalled (twice!) after a glitch) and updated without a hitch. * Evolution is now my email client of choice for two reasons: I couldn't figure out how to install Thunderbird and I wanted to sync my Palm to something. * I'm successfully popping all my Gmail and myrealbox accounts (13 total). I've never seen my filters run so fast (for junk and legit mail). * Palm Zire 21 now works beautifully with Evolution. I keep it simple and don't need more than the personal calendar. * Open Office installed and updated. I'm using 2.0.1.3 and have begun using Impress to create a presentation for school. * I have taken advantage of the desktop functions, using five work spaces and putting buttons on the tool bars. I love how smoothly my desktop works and allows me new workspaces. * Novell client for Linux working beautifully to connect me to the server upstairs (thanks Bob!) * I've been playing around with the GIMP image editor and in my opinion it is as robust as Photoshop (which I know very well). * I have successfully completed all the Novell Linux Desktop 9 Learning Center modules. The training was good and I would recommend it for new users. * I am successfully running Music Player and copying my CDs to the network. I can now burn a CD/DVD. Here are my observations/complaints: * While I've used both YaST and Red Carpet to install programs, I'd like to see something developed to click and run installation programs, much like the .exe files most are used to. Coming from that environment into a Linux environment, this is critical. If you want to make Linux more attractive for desktop users, software installation has to be easier. The average office user *ME* does not know how to work with code and such to install programs. * I'm still trying to find video capture and editing software. Any recommendations? * Now I also need software to create a business plan. Any recommendations? * I would love to listen to radio station web streams. I live in the boonies and get no radio reception. I do have RealPlayer on this but so far it hasn't worked for grabbing a radio web stream. I miss my Boston radio stations. Well, that's all I can think of for now. Oh, I did meet a wonderful teenager from Worcester who is very knowledgeable about Linux. His name is Stephen and I just wanted to send a shout out to him. I urged him to joint WLUG--he's a gem. Finally, I appreciate everyone here for all the marvelous advice, encouragement and patience. I consider it an honor to be part of your group. Thanks for letting me in! All my best, Marie

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Meeting followup
by Mike 19 Feb '06

19 Feb '06

For the curious, here is a not-so-complete list of links that were mentioned this evening: Ubuntu's upcoming Dapper Drake: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+specs OpenWRT: http://openwrt.org/ http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Asus/WL500G SSH Public Key encryption: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/excerpt/ssh_8/ Dropbear SSH: http://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html Gentoo Linux - Satire poster http://funroll-loops.org/gentoo.jpg I'll let Andy send out the rest :) Cheers, Mike

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Specify which nic gets named eth0
by Mike Leo 18 Feb '06

18 Feb '06

I have a RHAS4 2.6 kernel install with 6 NIC's. How do i tell it which nic I want to be labeled eth0? specifically, i have 2 nics built into the mobo, and 2 dual port addon cards. I want eth0 to be nic1 on the mobo, and eth1 to be nic2 on the mobo. By default it is assigning those nics to eth4 and eth5. thanks in advance... mike

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