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Help with Fedora Core3 -> Core4
by Ken Jones 05 Mar '06

05 Mar '06

Yesterday I transitioned from Core3 to Core4. My sound disappeared. Core4 is shipped without the kernel source code. I have a special sound driver for my Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live EMU10k1X card. The driver is Open Sound System from <http://www.opensound.com/>. It needs to be compiled with the kernel. I sent the soundconfig.log to the Help Desk. --------------Open Sound's Help Desk wrote---------------- Hi, You don't have the kernel source RPM, otherwise OSS would not be complaining: > make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1833_FC4/source: No such file or directory. Stop. > make: [ossbuild] Error 2 (ignored) > make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source SUBDIRS=/usr/lib/oss/kbuild CC="gcc" modules > make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1833_FC4/source: No such file or directory. Stop. Please install the kernel source RPM and then get the REGPARM version of OSS. ---------------------end snip---------------------------------------- I downloaded and installed <kernel-2.6.15-1.1833_FC4.src.rpm>. Since then I have been thrashing around without success. I would appreciate an email from anyone who has a moment to help. It does not seem appropriate to foist further details onto this whole list. Ken Jones

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Re: Help with Fedora Core3 -> Core4
by Ken Jones 04 Mar '06

04 Mar '06

Got it! Remember Open Sound System stopped working when I went from Core3 to Core4? Now it works. I had also upgraded the kernel. This was a problem because OSS needs to compile with the kernel. I missed some of the modules needed for a successful compilation. The system would not work with ALSA. I think my sound card is unique for some reason. ALSA needed to be disabled before OSS would work. OSS help desk Dev Mazumdar was very helpful. Thanks, you all, for being there. Ken Jones

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test -- ignore
by Bill Mills-Curran 04 Mar '06

04 Mar '06

Sorry to waste bandwidth.

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Stupid test, please excuse
by kwright＠keithdiane.us 04 Mar '06

04 Mar '06

I just posted something that got rejected because I am not a member (it says). I recently changed the address of the subscription. This is to test that I can properly impersonate myself. -- Keith

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RE: [Wlug] Reminder: Upcoming WLUG meeting THURSDAY 7:00 PM
by Minkov, Ross 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

FYI: --------------------------------------------------------------- LinuxWorld Boston - Special offer for Linux Magazine readers REGISTER today with Priority Code H0103 to receive your special 20% discount at http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/register --------------------------------------------------------------- I want to go to LinuxWorld too, but I'm still waiting on my management approval... :( If they don't approve I'm not paying out of my own pocket... -Ross -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:02 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Reminder: Upcoming WLUG meeting THURSDAY 7:00 PM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, <snip> Oh, BTW, Linux world is coming up in Boston during the first week of April. I've received a couple of emails from the Linux world folks. Does anybody have any interest in representing WLUG at this event? I'd like to go, but it depends on whether or not I can get the time off from work. Are people planning to go, because I think we can get a group discount of some kind. I'll print the emails and bring them to the meeting so we can discuss it. I'll post the info to the list afterwards. See ya later, Andy

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Perl puzzle
by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

Hi. I've been spending far too much time trying to accomplish a (seemingly) simple thing: use a Perl substitution operation to replace, a comma followed by a space followed by a single double-quote with a single double-quote. The obvious s/, "/"/g doesn't work, nor does escaping the double-quotes, as in s/, \"/\"/g I must have tried dozens of variations. RE's can be tough at times. Late last night I had to admit defeat. Any ideas? Thanks, Doug

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RE: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh
by Minkov, Ross 27 Feb '06

27 Feb '06

You are right... I think it was too late when I wrote that... LOL -Ross -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Theo Van Dinter Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:47 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 12:58:19AM -0500, Minkov, Ross wrote: > > There's no per-user config to specify what authentication methods are > > allowed. It's a global setting. > > You can specify per user ssh config settings in $USER/.ssh/conifg file. > The user's configuration file overwrites the system-wide configuration > file (/etc/ssh/ssh_config) settings for that user. For the client side, yes, you can do that. However, there is nothing like that for the server side which is what has been discussed so far. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "So, the long and short of it--if you have one sysadmin, you have a "system administrator." If you have two sysadmins, you have two "system administrators." If you have two thousand sysadmins, you're at LISA." - Trey Harris <Pine.LNX.4.30.0105091748220.27344-100000(a)shells.valinux.com>

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RE: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh
by Minkov, Ross 23 Feb '06

23 Feb '06

> You can put a "*" in the password field of the user and then it's a > locked account, but pubkey will still work. Yes, this works, I use it all the time. Just a note that the "*" needs to go in the /etc/shadow file, not in /etc/passwd. > There's no per-user config to specify what authentication methods are > allowed. It's a global setting. You can specify per user ssh config settings in $USER/.ssh/conifg file. The user's configuration file overwrites the system-wide configuration file (/etc/ssh/ssh_config) settings for that user. Make sure that $USER/.ssh/conifg is owned by $USER and perms are set to 600. For example you can add "PasswordAuthentication no" to $USER/.ssh/conifg and disable password auth for $USER, while leaving "PasswordAuthentication yes" (this is the default) in the system-wide configuration file (/etc/ssh/ssh_config). -Ross -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Theo Van Dinter Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 5:24 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:15:55PM -0500, Eric Stein wrote: > automated account: public key login only (no password authentication > allowed - yeah, I know I can just set the password to something really > big and hope nobody guesses, but the point of pub/priv key auth is > higher security) You can put a "*" in the password field of the user and then it's a locked account, but pubkey will still work. There's no per-user config to specify what authentication methods are allowed. It's a global setting. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Abnegation is un-American. We're going to drive the vehicle we want, wear what we want, consume as much as necessary, worship whomever we choose, and show as much cleavage as possible in beer commercials." - http://www.fool.com/News/Foth/2003/foth030203.htm?source=EDNWFH

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Progress and success
by Marie I MacDonald 23 Feb '06

23 Feb '06

Greetings all, I thought I'd write and update you on my newbie experience with Linux et. al. To refresh your memory, my old laptop died just as I had been given a new Linux box and just before the Spring semester had started. I really was feeling stressed. But here are some high points of the past month: * Novell distro installed (and reinstalled (twice!) after a glitch) and updated without a hitch. * Evolution is now my email client of choice for two reasons: I couldn't figure out how to install Thunderbird and I wanted to sync my Palm to something. * I'm successfully popping all my Gmail and myrealbox accounts (13 total). I've never seen my filters run so fast (for junk and legit mail). * Palm Zire 21 now works beautifully with Evolution. I keep it simple and don't need more than the personal calendar. * Open Office installed and updated. I'm using 2.0.1.3 and have begun using Impress to create a presentation for school. * I have taken advantage of the desktop functions, using five work spaces and putting buttons on the tool bars. I love how smoothly my desktop works and allows me new workspaces. * Novell client for Linux working beautifully to connect me to the server upstairs (thanks Bob!) * I've been playing around with the GIMP image editor and in my opinion it is as robust as Photoshop (which I know very well). * I have successfully completed all the Novell Linux Desktop 9 Learning Center modules. The training was good and I would recommend it for new users. * I am successfully running Music Player and copying my CDs to the network. I can now burn a CD/DVD. Here are my observations/complaints: * While I've used both YaST and Red Carpet to install programs, I'd like to see something developed to click and run installation programs, much like the .exe files most are used to. Coming from that environment into a Linux environment, this is critical. If you want to make Linux more attractive for desktop users, software installation has to be easier. The average office user *ME* does not know how to work with code and such to install programs. * I'm still trying to find video capture and editing software. Any recommendations? * Now I also need software to create a business plan. Any recommendations? * I would love to listen to radio station web streams. I live in the boonies and get no radio reception. I do have RealPlayer on this but so far it hasn't worked for grabbing a radio web stream. I miss my Boston radio stations. Well, that's all I can think of for now. Oh, I did meet a wonderful teenager from Worcester who is very knowledgeable about Linux. His name is Stephen and I just wanted to send a shout out to him. I urged him to joint WLUG--he's a gem. Finally, I appreciate everyone here for all the marvelous advice, encouragement and patience. I consider it an honor to be part of your group. Thanks for letting me in! All my best, Marie

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Meeting followup
by Mike 19 Feb '06

19 Feb '06

For the curious, here is a not-so-complete list of links that were mentioned this evening: Ubuntu's upcoming Dapper Drake: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+specs OpenWRT: http://openwrt.org/ http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Asus/WL500G SSH Public Key encryption: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/excerpt/ssh_8/ Dropbear SSH: http://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html Gentoo Linux - Satire poster http://funroll-loops.org/gentoo.jpg I'll let Andy send out the rest :) Cheers, Mike

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Specify which nic gets named eth0
by Mike Leo 18 Feb '06

18 Feb '06

I have a RHAS4 2.6 kernel install with 6 NIC's. How do i tell it which nic I want to be labeled eth0? specifically, i have 2 nics built into the mobo, and 2 dual port addon cards. I want eth0 to be nic1 on the mobo, and eth1 to be nic2 on the mobo. By default it is assigning those nics to eth4 and eth5. thanks in advance... mike

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pubkey authentication in openssh
by Eric Stein 17 Feb '06

17 Feb '06

Does anyone know a way to force pubkey authentication for only certain users but allow password for others? Eric

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MySQL replication question
by Bill Mills-Curran 17 Feb '06

17 Feb '06

Does anyone have experience with MySQL's replication capabilities? I'm running versions 4.1.8 and 4.1.14 servers on linux and windows, and I have a very remote site where I'd like to support replication. The data changes very slowly, but the link has 300 ms (ping) latency and has a small (but noticeable) amount of down time. Does it work well enough to be considered reliable for critical applications? TIA, Bill

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Reminder: Upcoming WLUG meeting THURSDAY 7:00 PM
by Andy Stewart 14 Feb '06

14 Feb '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Its that time again! The next WLUG meeting will be on Thursday, February 16th at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid Room at WPI in Worcester, MA USA. Directions can be found on the WLUG website. At this meeting, yours truly will give a presentation about getting Linux running on the MikroTik Routerboard 532. I had decided that I wanted to build a silent firewall, no moving parts, running GPL'd software. I used buildroot and Busybox from the embedded Linux world, the Linux kernel (with patches), and the SuSE Firewall scripts, to make a working firewall. The firewall has been up for 13.5 days straight with no discernable problems. It passed a recent screening by nessus. Linux firewall 2.4.30 #12 Sun Jan 22 20:31:58 EST 2006 mips unknown 21:56:47 up 13 days, 12:46, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 I'll bring the box to the meeting and use it in a live demo. I'll have some slides on my laptop as well, which I'll post on the WLUG website afterwards. I also have some items for raffle: 1 Linux Journal magazine from March 2006 (they sent me 2...) Cross Platform GUI Programming with wxWidgets Bruce Perens' Open Source Series Prentice Hall ISBN 0-13-147381-6 Linux Patch Management Bruce Perens' Open Source Series Prentice Hall ISBN 0-13-236675-4 Once the meeting concludes, we'll go to the Tech Pizza restaurant nearby. Oh, BTW, Linux world is coming up in Boston during the first week of April. I've received a couple of emails from the Linux world folks. Does anybody have any interest in representing WLUG at this event? I'd like to go, but it depends on whether or not I can get the time off from work. Are people planning to go, because I think we can get a group discount of some kind. I'll print the emails and bring them to the meeting so we can discuss it. I'll post the info to the list afterwards. See ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD8UgRHl0iXDssISsRAgsgAJ9EJLRPyzVvlu+bJAws9R9wlNEUiQCfd/Fc jIhKGn60OhKNLjD2ethRGAE= =KKDx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Anyone with Verizon fios?
by Bill Mills-Curran 06 Feb '06

06 Feb '06

Anyone using Verizon FiOS? The service looks interesting, but they require their own router. I'm wondering if that prevents all incoming connections, like ssh? Also, the rates they quote on the web page refers to a "bundle discount", but they don't say what a bundle is. Bill

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Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive
by Michael Zarozinski 02 Feb '06

02 Feb '06

Hi All, I've got a bit of a problem... we have a linux server that contained 2 hard drives. The one with the boot information died - LUCKILY the data we NEED was on the hard drive that lived. My question is... how can I recover the data I need? I've been able to boot to the shell using the install disk and can see the data I need but that shell doesn't provide access to the network card so I can copy the data off. I tried a fresh install on a new HD but when I attatch the 2nd HD (with the data I need) I can't see it. Forgive me, I come from the windows world where just plugging in the old HD would allow me to pull the data off. Any ideas/help/etc is greatly appreciated! Michael Z

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RE: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive
by Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey) 01 Feb '06

01 Feb '06

When you put the 2nd HDD in the system that you built, did you 'mount' the old drive. The system will not automatically mount the old drive when you install it. Putting it into a working system to access the data is the best way. Yes, windows will automatically mount a new drive if it sees a valid formatted partition, but Linux generally does not. jeff -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Michael Zarozinski Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:32 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive Hi All, I've got a bit of a problem... we have a linux server that contained 2 hard drives. The one with the boot information died - LUCKILY the data we NEED was on the hard drive that lived. My question is... how can I recover the data I need? I've been able to boot to the shell using the install disk and can see the data I need but that shell doesn't provide access to the network card so I can copy the data off. I tried a fresh install on a new HD but when I attatch the 2nd HD (with the data I need) I can't see it. Forgive me, I come from the windows world where just plugging in the old HD would allow me to pull the data off. Any ideas/help/etc is greatly appreciated! Michael Z _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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meeting topic
by Mike Leo 01 Feb '06

01 Feb '06

Am I wrong, or is the gentoo install insanely comlicated? Although I did not sit in front of it from start to finish, it seems like an install takes hours and hours of work... I followed the Handbook (some 80 pages of documentation), which i'm sure is very accurate and each step worked as advertised, but in the end it was too much. After an install of debian, which takes me less than 20 minutes, this was too much for my poor little brain to take, and I eventually gave up. In addition to that, I can't for the life of me, get slackware to consistantly install lilo correctly during the install. Any comments on either of these would be apreciated, however, I am just writing this to toss my vote in for a linux install fest as a meeting topic. I have no problem bringing in a laptop to show the simple, eligant, streamlined, 20 minute debian install, but I would like to also see someone go through a gentoo install, and assist on a slackware lilo config...all of which can be done via my laptop if needed. Thanks ! Mike

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Re: [Wlug] getting that cpu to sleep ...
by Jamie Guinan 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Hi, I just joined the list and was looking through some of the archives. > I have a question for those linux programmers out there. i'm writing > a program on linux (kubuntu to be specific) that requires > high-precision timing, somewhere on the order of 100 to 1000 micro > seconds. <snip> > The problem with this approach is that the process uses 99% of the > CPU since it just spins the CPU until enough time has expired. You can get up to 1/8192Hz (122us) periodic interrupts with the x86 RTC timer. You might have to do a little setup, like, # modprobe rtc # echo 8192 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq [ fiddle permissions on /dev/misc/rtc or /dev/rtc unless you are running your app as root ] See Documentation/rtc.txt in the kernel source for programming details. Basically the kernel is free to idle or run other things until the RTC interrupt hits, then it wakes up your app doing read() or poll() on /dev/rtc. I used this to pulse a hardware register in a project I did a few years ago, worked good enough for my purposes. You might lose an RTC interrupt here and there if your system is under heavy load (call it "soft realtime"), but I think the interface tells you if and how many you lost. There's also the more advanced HPET timer available for newer x86 systems, but I haven't looked at that yet. Good luck, -Jamie Guinan

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JOB: Seeking Unix SysAdmin
by Andy Stewart 25 Jan '06

25 Jan '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Everybody, If you are interested in the following job opportunity, please reply directly to bburns(a)m-Qube.com (Barbara Burns). =====start===== m-Qube, located in Boston, is the premiere mobile messaging management technology company in America and we operate a high-volume wireless messaging ASP. We are currently conducting a search for an experienced Systems Administrator who will be responsible for keeping this Linux/Java/J2EE-based server environment monitored and operational on a 24X7 basis. Responsibilities * Server Administration and Management 1. Configuration, administration and tuning of a high-performance Linux computing environment including new server deployment and setup 2. Develop and maintain scripts for monitoring and automation of periodic jobs 3. Provide problem isolation and resolution using software and diagnostics and/or crash/dump analysis 4. Administration of archive and backup systems 5. Perform ongoing capacity planning activities based on company growth 6. Serve as a system admin knowledge resource for persons throughout the organization 7. Available 24x7 for system emergencies * SAN Storage Administration 1. Maintain existing SAN storage infrastructure 2. Add and reconfigure storage to meet demands of the business 3. Use SAN technology to create backups for disaster recovery * Network Administration 1. Manage network devices including switches, routers and load balancers 2. Resolve issues with network 3. Review logs and run periodic health checks on infrastructure Qualifications: You must have extensive hands-on experience in a high-availability Linux environment with Apache, JBOSS, load balancing and SSL configurations. Your added assets will be an understanding of application programming in Java/JSP, Perl/Javascript or XML interfaces. You have some experience maintaining Cisco network equipment. Candidate must have strong work ethic and possess the ability to perform under time constraints in a dynamic environment. Managing multiple priorities while completing them simultaneously is a basic requirement.The individual must possess excellent skills in troubleshooting complex network environments and devices on his/her own. Experience: Qualified candidates should posses experience in the following: Enterprise-class Linux environments with 5 years of experience Experience with Linux server technologies including NFS, NIS, LDAP, kickstart, etc. Familiarity with engineering tools such as CVS and Bugzilla Proficient in scripting including PERL, Shell, Awk or Sed Extensive operations experience including o Experience analyzing and resolving problems associated with server hardware, server operating system and applications software o Capacity to perform a wide variety of tasks in software/hardware maintenance and operational support of server systems o Strong knowledge and experience with backup policies and emergency recovery procedures Some experience working with the following is preferred: Routing protocol and router administration Maintenance of Java, XML and SQL web applications Education: BS degree in Information Systems or related area desired Please respond directly to Barbara Burns at bburns(a)m-qube.com 617.673.2474 =====end===== - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD1wKJHl0iXDssISsRApOuAJ4kiKrElcrpiUpcBzlkb03eJxRS/QCfcvE4 i/EIPwzBA5NOL60i3UnW8dQ= =XuEN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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SSH Tunneling?
by Michael Zarozinski 24 Jan '06

24 Jan '06

Hi all, I'm in the process of moving a web site, msql db, and some game daemons to a new server. While the DNS transfer is in process we want all traffic to go to the new server. I've been told this can be done vial ssh tunnels but don't have any experience.... can anyone point me in the right direction? Do I need to set up a tunnel for every port on the old server (the games open ports)? How is it set up to run all the time? Do I need to mess with sshd_config? Any and all help is appreciated! Thanx! Michael Z

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Rough upgrade to FC4
by Bill Mills-Curran 23 Jan '06

23 Jan '06

I just upgraded to FC4 from FC3 and I had some troubles that should not have happened. My FC3 system was current with updates, and I used downloaded ISO's from fedora. The problem was that many of the FC3 packages were more up to date than the FC4 packages, so the upgrade did not install them. This included the kernel. I felt lucky that I had a workable system. Running up2date did not help -- I was still in an FC3 system (kind of). I manually installed the FC4 kernel and ran up2date again, but it was stuck on many packages, because up2date only wanted to freshen existing rpm's -- it didn't want to add any new ones to solve dependencies. After much arm-wrestling (floundering?), I gave up on the GUI up2date and ran with the command line, feeding it chunks of rpms that needed updating. I feel lucky that I didn't brick my system. What did I do wrong? This must be a common occurance. I have another system that I need to upgrade, but I don't want it to go like this. What's a better way? Thanks, Bill

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Re: Rough upgrade to FC4
by Joshua D. Abraham 23 Jan '06

23 Jan '06

On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 10:24:43PM -0500, nmeyers(a)javalinux.net wrote: > On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 10:13:27PM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > I just upgraded to FC4 from FC3 and I had some troubles that should > > not have happened. My FC3 system was current with updates, and I used > > downloaded ISO's from fedora. The problem was that many of the FC3 > > packages were more up to date than the FC4 packages, so the upgrade > > did not install them. This included the kernel. I felt lucky that I > > had a workable system. > > Sorry to hear things haven't gotten any better since my days as > an RH user (pre-RH9). I never experienced a smooth upgrade; sometimes > had to just rebuild the system. > Agreed. I have been using Redhat since 6.2. I had partitions setup the following way /boot / swap /home /usr/local/ This way I can keep the users data and just install a new system over it. I think that Debian's method of package management is the best of any of the Linux Distro's. I a year ago I switched from FC3 to Ubuntu because Ubuntu has a 6 month release cycle, similar to FC and Ubuntu pays individuals to fix security vulnerabilities. --Josh > I drifted from RH to Mandrake (pre-Mandriva) and then to Gentoo. > Though not without the occasional bump, I've found Gentoo's approach to > package management the least violent of them all. > > Nathan > > > > > Running up2date did not help -- I was still in an FC3 system (kind of). > > > > I manually installed the FC4 kernel and ran up2date again, but it was > > stuck on many packages, because up2date only wanted to freshen > > existing rpm's -- it didn't want to add any new ones to solve > > dependencies. > > > > After much arm-wrestling (floundering?), I gave up on the GUI up2date > > and ran with the command line, feeding it chunks of rpms that needed > > updating. > > > > I feel lucky that I didn't brick my system. What did I do wrong? > > This must be a common occurance. I have another system that I need to > > upgrade, but I don't want it to go like this. What's a better way? > > > > Thanks, > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss(a)blu.org > > http://olduvai.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss(a)blu.org > http://olduvai.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

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Subject: Re: [Wlug] Trial By Fire
by Tom Misilo 22 Jan '06

22 Jan '06

for all mozilla packages visit their project dir heres a link for thunderbird http://suse.cs.utah.edu/projects/mozilla/thunderbird/1.5/ for all the mozilla stuff http://suse.cs.utah.edu/projects/mozilla/ Tom > On 1/21/06, Marie MacDonald <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Do downloadable software packages for Linux come with intallers? > > It depends. Many do but some require a few more steps. If you stick > with installing SW via yast, you'll have the easiest time. > > > Can anyone help with advice for YaSt? Is my issue with the Thunderbird > > 1.5 package perhaps? > > Perhaps the recent Novell distro is different, but I've never seen > Thunderbird in the Yast repository (I'm still using SuSE 9.3). > Anytime I want Firefox or Thunderbird, I go direct to > http://www.mozilla.com and download it there. What you download there > has an installer built in. > > > Quite frankly if it's this hard (frustrating!) to install software, I'm > > not gonna be a happy gal. I still have other things I want to add to > > this snappy little computer (i.e. my Palm) but darn there's gotta be an > > easier way. Spring semester starts 26 January and I need this up and > > running. > > You sound determined and that's probably the most important trait for > someone trying to stick with Linux. Stick with YaST as much as > possible and post here for other specific questions--we'll get you > through. > > BR

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Perl Unicode question
by Skip Gaede 22 Jan '06

22 Jan '06

Folks, I'm trying to understand how Unicode works in Perl 5.8.7, and things are not working the way they're described in perluniintro. In particular, I have a file encoded in UTF-8 from Perl, that I want to convert to Windows Unicode (UCS-16LE). The intro provides this snippet for converting from one character set to another: open(my $nihongo, '<:encoding(iso2022-jp)', 'text.jis'); open(my $unicode, '>:utf8', 'text.utf8'); while (<$nihongo>) { print $unicode } When I try that, substituting UTF-8 and ':encoding(UTF-16LE)', I get no warnings, but the output has twice as many characters as it should have and they are all NULLs. I can supply a my UTF-8 file if anyone wants to have a try. In particular, I think the fact that I have embedded apostrophes (0x27) encoded as RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK (0x2019) may be part of the problem. Thanks, Skip

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