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REMINDER: Upcoming Meeting
by Andy Stewart Feb. 13, 2007

Feb. 13, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Sorry for the earlier test...Comcast was bouncing my emails to the list for some reason. That problem seems to have cleared since my test went through. We're scheduled to have a WLUG meeting on Thursday, February 15th, 2007 at 7:00 PM at WPI in the Access Grid Room. We don't have a definite topic, nor do we have anybody who has volunteered to be the speaker. Any takers? After the meeting, we'll head out for pizza at the Tech Pizza restaurant on Highland Street. Come one, come all, see ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF0R5WHl0iXDssISsRAk6PAJ9S5in2mhco530CrcQhvM9PdAFQSACggm2j ejld5TOZECmpNhgr6LC0AaQ= =AqCp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Test...please delete.
by Andy Stewart Feb. 13, 2007

Feb. 13, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF0RcCHl0iXDssISsRAppgAJ4nrZ0JNLs7wKynVpDN2clZJmKT0wCeNMxN R+iL563pO42NONYscmKucCo= =P1t2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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JOB: Avici Systems
by Andy Stewart Feb. 9, 2007

Feb. 9, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Avici Systems is advertising several Linux programming jobs. If interested, send me email and I'll send you the PDF file. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFy6h5Hl0iXDssISsRArGMAJ9FWsOYH+tdTX4kbta6ACUeBexRVwCcDIsY 8BN4XKDgplmSsu+y+WwWG+Q= =UTGv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Test - please ignore
by David Glaser Jan. 26, 2007

Jan. 26, 2007

Test - please ignore

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Topic for future meeting.
by Brian Waite Jan. 16, 2007

Jan. 16, 2007

Hi all, I wanted to intorduce myself. I have been on the LUG list now for over a year, but 2 kids 22 mo and 5 mo old have kept me away from metings. I am by no means a speaker although I have given a presentation at conferences and a LUG. I know there is a constant call for topics. I was wondering if anyone was interested in one of the following 3 topics: 1) Linux Development on the Nokia 770. I have had one for a few months now and know quite a bit about it and the state of affairs. 2) Hacking NAS storage with the Kurobox (www.kurobox.com) An very interesting device with a sordid history 3) VERY tentitive. Developing Robotic applications on Linux for the iRobot Create. I should be able to get my hands on one of these along with some example code and show the capabilities of the iRobot Create (http://www.irobot.com/create) I could also combine 1 and 2 and talk of the general aspects of embedded Linux development. I have been active in this field for about 6 years now. Any takers? Thanks Brian

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FYI: Meeting Announcement
by AlReinhart Jan. 14, 2007

Jan. 14, 2007

FYI: The attached meeting announcement may be of interest to those interested in TV/video and such things as news production, HDTV, film and advanced web-streaming, etc. "A unique opportunity to see some of the most sophisticated editing, effects, animation, compositing and streaming systems on the market." I do not know anything about the group or the meeting, it just sounds like it may be of interest to some WLUG members. ---------------------------------- Al Reinhart Phone: (508) 869-6417 DisCom Systems eMail: Reinhart(a)DisCom.com www.DisCom.com

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Broadcast Radio Engineer (or facsimilie thereof!)
by Mims Research Jan. 14, 2007

Jan. 14, 2007

Hello all, Not sure if I've made my request on this list or not. Sorry if it's a repeat. Is there someone here who can help a non-profit organization work on a non-commercial full power radio license project? I am on the BOD of a non-profit that is considering an application for such and we could use a bit of help. Replies off list are fine. TIA, Marie email: mimsresearch(a)gmail.com

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Charcoal grilling with liquid oxygen.
by joel d Jan. 12, 2007

Jan. 12, 2007

At pizza we were talking about other web videos of people doing entertaining and dangerous things. The Mythbusters' disappearing cement truck is hard to top. Here was my favorite example, this guy uses 3 to 5 gallons of liquid oxygen to start your charcoal grill. He does it in shirt sleeves with a 5 gal bucket. Don't try this at home. http://www.doeblitz.net/ghg/ Joel

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Possible sendmail attack?
by Dick Goodman Jan. 12, 2007

Jan. 12, 2007

I have four servers on 3 different DSL lines running RedHat 7.3 with sendmail 8.11.6 I was on vacation at the time, but mid-day (13:00) on January 9th all of them started behaving wierdly. Instead of the occassional email, perhaps 95% of all incoming emails now show in the log as follows: Jan 9 09:41:17 bach sendmail[25179]: NOQUEUE: mail5.schaeffer.com [24.106.95.27] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA Jan 11 00:02:12 bach sendmail[14018]: NOQUEUE: h11009.upc-h.chello.nl [62.194.11.9] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA Jan 11 00:10:44 bach sendmail[14127]: NOQUEUE: bay0-omc2-s35.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.171] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA Jan 11 00:13:23 bach sendmail[14148]: NOQUEUE: root@localhost did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA Jan 11 00:13:50 bach sendmail[14151]: NOQUEUE: 84.95.106.53.cable.012.net.il [84.95.106.53] did notissue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA The first one is legitimate mail, the others appear to be spam Much of the 50K pieces/month of spam I get are being trapped at the server in this manner before even getting to my spam filters (a good thing), but while some legitimate email is getting through, some is being rejected with this kind of message. Does anyone (a) have any idea what's happening here (b) have any idea how to fix it. Need more info? Just ask. Dick

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Re: [Wlug] GIMP Question
by Mike Leo Jan. 12, 2007

Jan. 12, 2007

when anyone asks for help with pictures, i always mention image magic http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php if the two parts are different enough, i'm sure imagemagick can seperate them for you. ----- Original Message ---- From: "dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com" <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:33:38 PM Subject: [Wlug] GIMP Question Any GIMP experts here? Is there a way to extract the differences between two images? I have an image of just a background and an image of item on said background. I'd like to get the image of just the item. It wouldn't be hard to write a program to do it but I figured gimp might already have it. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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GIMP Question
by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com Jan. 11, 2007

Jan. 11, 2007

Any GIMP experts here? Is there a way to extract the differences between two images? I have an image of just a background and an image of item on said background. I'd like to get the image of just the item. It wouldn't be hard to write a program to do it but I figured gimp might already have it. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

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Topic for next Thursday
by Mike Perry Jan. 9, 2007

Jan. 9, 2007

So what's the topic? ~Mike

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REMINDER: Upcoming Meeting Thurs Jan 7, 2007
by Andy Stewart Jan. 9, 2007

Jan. 9, 2007

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, This is your monthly reminder (hand generated) regarding our upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Thursday, January 7th, 2007, at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid Room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. Many of you have suggested some good topics in our recent email threads. I propose that this meeting be a round table discussion of those and any other topics of interest. I'll bring my new laptop for discussion as well. It is a Linux Certified LC2464T running Kubuntu. However, I hope somebody has a DVI-SVGA adapter which I can borrow for the meeting, since I don't yet have one. Since this is my first experience with a Debian type of distribution, I could offer my first impressions. More info here: http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux-laptop-lc2464t.html If the discussion runs dry, ask me if I passed my Amateur Radio technician exam (which I'm taking on Wednesday). I'm curious to see what I can do with this and Linux. I can also give an update on the kernel device driver that I'm writing for the Delcom USB I/O demo board. I am planning to do a full presentation on this sometime soon, after I get more stuff working. A couple of simple features are working right now. Perhaps I'll do this for either the February or March meeting. More info here: http://www.delcom-eng.com/productdetails.asp?productnum=802004 As always, we'll adjourn to the Tech Pizza Restaurant on Highland Street for some discussion afterwards. All are welcome to attend! See ya later, and Happy New Year! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFowvsHl0iXDssISsRArxgAJoCdu40R3NGK/cVkRPAomzSSZJcCQCfZ7Sx JYMDiYEQjmETv2GfHbbbDqY= =iIYN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wlug] Topic idea for future meeting
by Mike Leo Jan. 7, 2007

Jan. 7, 2007

Yup....and I know Andy is as well.. I love talking about VMWare so i don't mind at all. ----- Original Message ---- From: Doug Chamberlin <dougchamberlin(a)earthlink.net> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2007 4:01:46 PM Subject: [Wlug] Topic idea for future meeting Anyone using VMWare Workstation hosted on Linux? I'd be interested in an installation how-to with tips and tricks. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Topic idea for future meeting
by Doug Chamberlin Jan. 7, 2007

Jan. 7, 2007

Anyone using VMWare Workstation hosted on Linux? I'd be interested in an installation how-to with tips and tricks.

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Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Thursday
by Mike Jan. 7, 2007

Jan. 7, 2007

I've been interesting in setting up a MythTV box as well. ~Mike <quote who="Adam Keck"> > Hello All, > > What about a MythTV discussion? I want to create a Linux media > management/playback system and would like to hear others' experiences. > > -Adam > > On 1/4/07, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Mike Perry wrote: >> > So what's the topic? >> > >> > ~Mike >> >> HI Mike, >> >> There isn't one....yet. One person asked me if we could discuss the >> basics of setting up a network. I'm not sure what else folks would like >> to discuss, or more importantly, who wants to lead the discussion. >> >> I'm open to anything - you folks let me know. :-) >> >> Later, >> >> Andy >> >> - -- >> Andy Stewart, Founder >> Worcester Linux Users' Group >> Worcester, MA, USA >> http://www.wlug.org >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >> >> iD8DBQFFnYzBHl0iXDssISsRAugkAJ4oqIb0K5TXwRzWbTpvkZFkyNoptwCeMWqV >> OPNxcijZoQP8z7eKDrz/OVs= >> =DqBf >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > > -- > -Adam > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security --Ben Franklin

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Topic for nextThursday
by Ken Jones Jan. 5, 2007

Jan. 5, 2007

How about RedHat Linux vs RedHat Fedora Core Linux. Is it possible to run a professional installation based on Fedora Core? Must one be a REAL pro? Ken Jones

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Amateur radio exam session at WPI on January 18
by Chuck Anderson Jan. 5, 2007

Jan. 5, 2007

At last WLUG I believe we talked about amateur radio, so perhaps this interests some of you. ----- Forwarded message from Gil Hayes <wk1h(a)charter.net> ----- From: "Gil Hayes" <wk1h(a)charter.net> To: "'Gil Hayes'" <wk1h(a)charter.net> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 00:03:52 -0500 Subject: Amateur radio exam session at WPI on January 18 Hi all, The Worcester Area VE Team will be holding an amateur radio test session for all license classes: Date: Thursday, January 18, 2007 Time: 6:30 PM Place: Salisbury Labs, Room 123, Worcester Polytechnic Institute Please bring: 1. AN ORIGINAL AND A PHOTOCOPY of your current license and any CSCE's or other paperwork you are submitting 2. A basic calculator 3. Two forms of state acceptable ID (one must be a picture ID) 4. $14 exam fee (if check, payable to "ARRL VEC") 5. Pen or pencil The photocopies of your paperwork are very important as we must submit a copy of your records to the ARRL VEC if you are successful. Walk-ins are always accepted but pre-registration is preferred. To preregister email John at n2yhk(a)wpi.edu and/or Gil at wk1h(a)charter.net. Any questions about the session may also be directed to these emails. We will try to provide a talk-in on the 145.310 W1WPI repeater. It is recommended that if you are not familiar with the WPI campus that you print out and bring with you the campus map at http://www.wpi.edu/About/Visitors/Images/walkingmap.pdf. Thanks, Gil Note - To be removed from this mail list or have your email changed, please reply to this email. ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: [Wlug] APT install question
by Mike Perry Jan. 2, 2007

Jan. 2, 2007

Hmmm weird. I just tried to install cpufrequtils on my box and I didn't run into that problem. Sounds like a fluke to me. Try deleting the package from the cache '/var/cache/apt/archives' and reinstalling as Aaron detailed. I ran Kubuntu for a bit and switched back to Ubuntu as I find the integration is much better. But under the hood they should be the same system. When I was running Kubuntu I did find that it already had a cpufreq tool built into its power management. cpufrequtils is in universe and would be an add on. I know Ubuntu's Gnome package manager, Synaptic, has a "fix broken packages" option which may also fix this problem. Perhaps Adapt has something similar. *Ubuntu also has smart if you are familiar with that. sudo apt-get install smart-pm ~Mike > On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 07:11 -0500, Aaron Haviland wrote: > > Andy Stewart wrote, on Dec 29, 2006 at 21:49 EST: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > > HI gang, > > > > > > I'm taking my first adventurous steps in the use of a Debian based > > > system (Kubuntu) on my new laptop (LC2464T). (No, I'm not trashing Suse > > > on all of my other systems). I've never previously used an APT based > > > system, so in this sense, I'm quite the newbie. > > > > I wouldn't suggest *Ubuntu as a canonical APT-based distro. There are > > still bugs there but the eye candy is better. > > > > > I'm getting an error when I install a package, and I'm not sure how to > > > resolve it. I've googled to no avail. Note in the output below that it > > > says that the file /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils does not exist, and yet (I > > > think) this is a file that belongs to the package which I'm trying to > > > install. > > > > Indeed it should be part of the package you're trying to install. Could > > you verify that the files does exist? By this point in the installation, > > the package is fully extracted, just not configured. > > > > > > A quick & dirty version of the dpkg installation procedure (APT is a front-end to dpkg/wget/etc) is: > > > > 1) Extract control information from the package. (You can find this > > stuff in /var/lib/dpkg/info/${PACKAGE}.* > > > > 2) Execute pre-install script, if it exists > > > > 3) Extract package. > > > > 4) Run post-install script, if it exists. (I think almost all packages > > have one) > > > > 5) ... > > > > 6) Profit! > > > > > > <snipped ...> > > > > > Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe cpufrequtils 002-1 [22.4kB] > > > Fetched 32.7kB in 1s (31.8kB/s) > > > > > Selecting previously deselected package cpufrequtils. > > > > 1, 2 > > > > 3 > > > > > Unpacking cpufrequtils (from .../cpufrequtils_002-1_amd64.deb) ... > > > > 4 > > > > > Setting up cpufrequtils (002-1) ... > > > update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils: file does not exist > > > dpkg: error processing cpufrequtils (--configure): > > > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 > > > Errors were encountered while processing: > > > cpufrequtils > > > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > > ========== > > > > So at this point, the package should be completely extracted, but the > > postinstall is not processing correctly... the command it's trying to > > execute would be: "update-rc.d cpufrequtils defaults" to add the default > > init rc symlinks... > > > > It might be a bug in the package. It might be a fluke. Usually, try > > re-installing it (as you won't be able to do much else until you get it > > resolved, anyway...) > > > > apt-get install --reinstall cpufrequtils > > > > > > If not... good luck figuring out ubuntu's bug system. Debian's is quite > > nice, but if you've got a ubuntu bug, you *have* to use ubuntu's BTS > > instead. (And it appears there are no current bugs filed for ubuntu's > > cpufrequtils. Interestingly enough, Debian's BTS lists several bugs > > against the package, but none seemingly related to your problem.) > > > > > > > > Hmmm... also, how long ago did this happen? Ubuntu doesn't seem to have > > 002-1 in its archives anymore. The current version is 002-2. > > > > I don't know if you're using a front-end to APT, or taking it plain, but > > you might need to run "apt-get update" to refresh the package lists. > > > > > > That was a bit longer than I meant it to be... good luck! > > > > Alternatively, Some friends of mine in #linuxhelp on OFTC are usually > > around to help. I'm in there as 'guinea-pig' > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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APT install question
by Andy Stewart Dec. 30, 2006

Dec. 30, 2006

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, I'm taking my first adventurous steps in the use of a Debian based system (Kubuntu) on my new laptop (LC2464T). (No, I'm not trashing Suse on all of my other systems). I've never previously used an APT based system, so in this sense, I'm quite the newbie. I'm getting an error when I install a package, and I'm not sure how to resolve it. I've googled to no avail. Note in the output below that it says that the file /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils does not exist, and yet (I think) this is a file that belongs to the package which I'm trying to install. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated - thanks! Here's the command and its output from Kubuntu 6.10. ========== # apt-get install cpufrequtils Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libcpufreq0 The following NEW packages will be installed: cpufrequtils libcpufreq0 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 32.7kB of archives. After unpacking 254kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe libcpufreq0 002-1 [10.3kB] Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe cpufrequtils 002-1 [22.4kB] Fetched 32.7kB in 1s (31.8kB/s) Selecting previously deselected package libcpufreq0. (Reading database ... 88398 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libcpufreq0 (from .../libcpufreq0_002-1_amd64.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package cpufrequtils. Unpacking cpufrequtils (from .../cpufrequtils_002-1_amd64.deb) ... Setting up libcpufreq0 (002-1) ... Setting up cpufrequtils (002-1) ... update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils: file does not exist dpkg: error processing cpufrequtils (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: cpufrequtils E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) ========== - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFldO9Hl0iXDssISsRAq1gAJ46+gxWgO9YomxhdJsp0i02GG30XgCfTll1 k584/OlsBqwCFII50BVox90= =VxI2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Test...please ignore
by Andy Stewart Dec. 30, 2006

Dec. 30, 2006

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFldK4Hl0iXDssISsRArctAJ9W/DRFiHEiLoJZo9ApGPvo7dTo6ACfTtZ2 qXhhobwHcadmxsOucQiZAoc= =kqJP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Can't find files filling up disk
by Michael Zarozinski Dec. 26, 2006

Dec. 26, 2006

Hi all, I'm getting warnings that one of my drives is 90% full but I can't find the files filling it up. Running "df -ha" shows: Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 2.0G 789M 1.1G 42% / none 0 0 0 - /proc none 0 0 0 - /sys none 0 0 0 - /dev/pts usbfs 0 0 0 - /proc/bus/usb none 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda7 58G 1.9G 53G 4% /home /dev/hda6 2.0G 36M 1.9G 2% /tmp /dev/hda2 4.9G 2.6G 2.2G 55% /usr /dev/hda3 4.9G 4.2G 512M 90% /var <<<<<<< Problem disk none 0 0 0 - /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc sunrpc 0 0 0 - /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs But running "du -sh *" from / shows /var as only having 322M (full output is below). Any hints on where I can find the files filling up /dev/hda3??? Thanks, Michael root@games [/]# du -sh * 8.0K aquota.user 6.4M bin 11M boot 168K dev 12K du_var 20M etc 8.0K hardware_status.html?mac=00:0C:F1:D7:9B:4B&action=update&status=RH_POST_KICKSTART &hk=cf36ac8c346755f3d318bbd694a168c7799c74de 1.7G home 8.0K initrd 129M lib 16K lost+found 16K media 8.0K misc 8.0K mnt 8.0K opt 0 pico 902M proc 8.0K quota.user 580M root 16M sbin 4.0M scripts 8.0K selinux 8.0K srv 0 sys 72K tftpboot 48K tmp 2.7G usr 322M var

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Problem w/gcc
by Eric Martin Dec. 25, 2006

Dec. 25, 2006

My laptop has been doing weird stuff lately. I built it a while ago from Gentoo 2006.0 Stage 3, and every now and again it would turn off while compiling something (usually if I had to upgrade glibc). I was just trying to update mythtv and it crashed so I decided to level it and start from scratch. I installed Gentoo 2006.1 Stage 3 and it's doing the same thing. I went down to Stage 2 and I'm still having a problem. I've done memtest in the past with clean results, but I'm stuck because I don't know what the error is. While building a few minutes ago I forgot to turn on swap space and it ran out of memory before crashing (turning off). Is there anything I can do aside from piping the output to a file to capture what the problem might be (tried it, not much help)? Has anybody had similar problems with gcc / glibc? Thanks in advance Eric

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Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc
by freak4uxxx＠gmail.com Dec. 24, 2006

Dec. 24, 2006

i'll give it a shot, thanks. -Eric -----Original Message----- From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Subj: Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc Date: Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:36 am Size: 1K To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Eric Martin wrote: > My laptop has been doing weird stuff lately. I built it a while ago > from Gentoo 2006.0 Stage 3, and every now and again it would turn off > while compiling something (usually if I had to upgrade glibc). I was > just trying to update mythtv and it crashed so I decided to level it > and start from scratch. I installed Gentoo 2006.1 Stage 3 and it's > doing the same thing. I went down to Stage 2 and I'm still having a > problem. I've done memtest in the past with clean results, but I'm > stuck because I don't know what the error is. While building a few > minutes ago I forgot to turn on swap space and it ran out of memory > before crashing (turning off). > > Is there anything I can do aside from piping the output to a file to > capture what the problem might be (tried it, not much help)? Has > anybody had similar problems with gcc / glibc? > > Thanks in advance > Eric My laptop will turn it self off if the temperature gets above 70C. Most laptops have some kind of temperature shut off function.. I would monitor your temperature with lmsensors, or mbmon (acpi temp zone). For me to control my Gentoo laptop temperature while compiling big packages, I have to have cpu frequency scaling running. If i run my 2.8ghz P4 laptop at 50% speed 1.4Ghz I don't have any temperature problems. I usually use the "powersave" or "ondemand" shedulers. Also you could try keeping a big enough space blow your laptop for air.. Assuming the temperature is the problem. -- -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/ US VOIP: (1) 603.966.4448 Spain Casa (34) 951.273.347 Spain Mobil (34) 617.463.826 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk= karl.hiramoto [at] gmail [d0t] com -- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov

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looking for a PCI graphics card
by Bill Mills-Curran Dec. 24, 2006

Dec. 24, 2006

Thanks to all who found/offered a PCI graphics card. My problem has been solved, even though it hasn't been really understood. A friend found a card of unknown condition, and I tried it. As expected, the motherboard graphics became inactive when I booted with the PCI card. However, the PCI card didn't work either. (It's that "unknown condition" thing, I think.) After a couple of power cycles, I removed the PCI card, and, magically, the motherboard graphics began to work. I don't see anything new in the X config, so I can only think that the system reset the motherboard graphics card back to a functional state. If anyone has a better theory, I'd like to hear it. Thanks to all who responded with an offer of a graphics card. Thanks, Bill

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