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Reminder: Meeting Thursday December 11th @7pm (rm 331) mid-century room
by Tim Keller Dec. 8, 2014

Dec. 8, 2014

Hey Everybody, I erroneously sent out email with the wrong date... The meeting is Thursday, December 11th @7pm in the usual place. Sorry for the confusion. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Meeting reminder! December 11th! Jon "Maddog" Hall!
by Tim Keller Dec. 1, 2014

Dec. 1, 2014

Hey Everybody, Just a reminder that we've got a meeting on December 11th. The planned speaker is going to be John "Maddog" Hall. I *believe* he'll be speaking about the "Linaro" project among other things. Like usual, refreshments and snacks will be provided. The meeting will take place in the Mid-Century room (rm. 331) starting at 7pm. Afterwards we'll gorge ourselves on pizza. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by Michael Voorhis Nov. 23, 2014

Nov. 23, 2014

>From SANS newsBites v16n93; relevant (perhaps) to recent discussions. > --Citadel Trojan Now Targeting Password Managers > (November 19 & 20, 2014) > The Citadel Trojan, which in the past has been used to steal bank > account access credentials and was used in targeted attacks against > Middle Eastern petro-chemical companies, has recently been used in > attacks against password managers. The newest version of Citadel now > targets the master passwords for the three most widely used password > management systems. > http://www.darkreading.com/operations/identity-and-access-management/new-ci… > http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/11/citadel-attackers-aim-to-steal-vict… > [Editor's Note (Honan0: If you have not done so already its time to turn > on the two factor authentication features on your account that many of > these password managers offer.]

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by JeffA Maillists Nov. 17, 2014

Nov. 17, 2014

KeePass is awesome... ;-) On Nov 15, 2014 6:22 PM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm looking for > suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system would have at > least these features: > > - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android > - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google drive - *not* > via an app specific service > - good Firefox plugin > > Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks all! > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by Joel Nov. 17, 2014

Nov. 17, 2014

Security questions aside, for synchronization of Android files to Google Drive I like "Autsync for Google Drive" from metactrl. Was $3 to buy & install. Set & forget delta sync of pictures, pdf files, etc. I tell it to only sync every 4 hours via WIFI. Taking a picture toggles a sync now. Thank you, Joel On November 16, 2014 12:53:38 AM Randall Mason <clashthebunny(a)gmail.com> wrote: I use password store (http://www.passwordstore.org/) It's the only true Unix solution. It's written in bash, stores passwords in a gpg encrypted text file, and sync is done with git. It's in most repos and homebrew. It includes niceties such as password generation and versioning is nice too (I used my old password for Facebook on Reddit, but forgot to write it down, but now I've changed my Facebook password becomes a simple git log/checkout). If anything ever happens, everything is stored in a format you can easily grok. I have a private repo on my home NAS that I can get to from anywhere. I have a chroot on android; all of those utilities exist natively on Win/Mac/Linux. Because I trust gpg enough, I could even use a free private repo on bitbucket. Just transfer your password encryption subkey around safely. There are various clients/guis out there including supposedly iOS and Firefox. It wouldn't be hard to write one for Android given all the pieces exist separately in open source forms. On Nov 16, 2014 4:58 AM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > Nice! The last time I looked, there were some issues with just dumping the > database file on Google drive, so it sounds like they've made some progress > since then. I'll check it out. > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > On 11/15/2014 9:05 PM, Richard Klein wrote: > > Frank, > > You just save your .kdb (or is it .kdbx?) file on Google Drive. > It's just > > a file that you open and save from KeePass, so KeePass doesn't have to > support > > Google Drive per se. > > > > I used KeePass for a while, but I prefer LastPass. You said you > didn't > > want an app-specific cloud solution, so I guess that rules out LastPass, > but > > it's what I like. I also pay something like $12/year to LastPass, but > it's > > worth it. > > > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu > > <mailto:fs@wpi.edu>> wrote: > > > > Any suggestion for any of the android app variants/clones to try? The > > couple that I looked at only claim Dropbox support, not google drive. > > > > > > On November 15, 2014 6:25:58 PM EST, JeffA Maillists > > <jeffa.maillists(a)gmail.com <mailto:jeffa.maillists@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > KeePass is awesome... ;-) > > > > On Nov 15, 2014 6:22 PM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu > > <mailto:fs@wpi.edu>> wrote: > > > > Hey all, > > > > I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm > looking for > > suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system > would > > have at least these features: > > > > - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android > > - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google > drive > > - *not* via an app specific service > > - good Firefox plugin > > > > Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly > > appreciated. Thanks all! > > -- > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my > brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > -- > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > ---------- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by Randall Mason Nov. 16, 2014

Nov. 16, 2014

I use password store (http://www.passwordstore.org/) It's the only true Unix solution. It's written in bash, stores passwords in a gpg encrypted text file, and sync is done with git. It's in most repos and homebrew. It includes niceties such as password generation and versioning is nice too (I used my old password for Facebook on Reddit, but forgot to write it down, but now I've changed my Facebook password becomes a simple git log/checkout). If anything ever happens, everything is stored in a format you can easily grok. I have a private repo on my home NAS that I can get to from anywhere. I have a chroot on android; all of those utilities exist natively on Win/Mac/Linux. Because I trust gpg enough, I could even use a free private repo on bitbucket. Just transfer your password encryption subkey around safely. There are various clients/guis out there including supposedly iOS and Firefox. It wouldn't be hard to write one for Android given all the pieces exist separately in open source forms. On Nov 16, 2014 4:58 AM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > Nice! The last time I looked, there were some issues with just dumping the > database file on Google drive, so it sounds like they've made some progress > since then. I'll check it out. > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > On 11/15/2014 9:05 PM, Richard Klein wrote: > > Frank, > > You just save your .kdb (or is it .kdbx?) file on Google Drive. > It's just > > a file that you open and save from KeePass, so KeePass doesn't have to > support > > Google Drive per se. > > > > I used KeePass for a while, but I prefer LastPass. You said you > didn't > > want an app-specific cloud solution, so I guess that rules out LastPass, > but > > it's what I like. I also pay something like $12/year to LastPass, but > it's > > worth it. > > > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu > > <mailto:fs@wpi.edu>> wrote: > > > > Any suggestion for any of the android app variants/clones to try? The > > couple that I looked at only claim Dropbox support, not google drive. > > > > > > On November 15, 2014 6:25:58 PM EST, JeffA Maillists > > <jeffa.maillists(a)gmail.com <mailto:jeffa.maillists@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > KeePass is awesome... ;-) > > > > On Nov 15, 2014 6:22 PM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu > > <mailto:fs@wpi.edu>> wrote: > > > > Hey all, > > > > I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm > looking for > > suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system > would > > have at least these features: > > > > - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android > > - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google > drive > > - *not* via an app specific service > > - good Firefox plugin > > > > Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly > > appreciated. Thanks all! > > -- > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my > brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > -- > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by Richard Klein Nov. 16, 2014

Nov. 16, 2014

Frank, You just save your .kdb (or is it .kdbx?) file on Google Drive. It's just a file that you open and save from KeePass, so KeePass doesn't have to support Google Drive per se. I used KeePass for a while, but I prefer LastPass. You said you didn't want an app-specific cloud solution, so I guess that rules out LastPass, but it's what I like. I also pay something like $12/year to LastPass, but it's worth it. On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Any suggestion for any of the android app variants/clones to try? The > couple that I looked at only claim Dropbox support, not google drive. > > > On November 15, 2014 6:25:58 PM EST, JeffA Maillists < > jeffa.maillists(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> KeePass is awesome... ;-) >> On Nov 15, 2014 6:22 PM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm looking for >>> suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system would have at >>> least these features: >>> >>> - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android >>> - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google drive - >>> *not* via an app specific service >>> - good Firefox plugin >>> >>> Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly >>> appreciated. Thanks all! >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> ------------------------------ >> >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by thinkbrown＠gmail.com Nov. 16, 2014

Nov. 16, 2014

A text file in a TrueCrypt container? Logan On Nov 15, 2014 6:22 PM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm looking for > suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system would have at > least these features: > > - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android > - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google drive - *not* > via an app specific service > - good Firefox plugin > > Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks all! > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by Chuck Anderson Nov. 16, 2014

Nov. 16, 2014

I like keepassx because there is a CLI "shell" client I'm using called kpcli. I use both the GUI and CLI in different scenarios. I have the Android client as well, but don't really use it. Instead I SSH in and use kpcli. I prefer to keep my data local (not in the cloud), especially sensitive data like password databases. On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 06:21:32PM -0500, Frank Sweetser wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm looking for suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system would have at least these features: > > - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android > - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google drive - *not* via an app specific service > - good Firefox plugin > > Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all!

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Re: [Wlug] Cross platform password management
by Higgins, Benjamin John Nov. 15, 2014

Nov. 15, 2014

Keepass for the win -- Benjamin J. Higgins (‘97), JNCIA-Junos WPI Network Operations Please excuse my brevity - sending from a cell phone. On Nov 15, 2014 6:21 PM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > > Hey all, > > I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm looking for suggestions on what apps people are Hey all, I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm looking for suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system would have at least these features: - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google drive - *not* via an app specific service - good Firefox plugin Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all! -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Cross platform password management
by Frank Sweetser Nov. 15, 2014

Nov. 15, 2014

Hey all, I'm looking to overhaul my password management, so I'm looking for suggestions on what apps people are using. My ideal system would have at least these features: - cross platform on windows, Linux, and android - synchronize via 3rd party cloud storage, preferably google drive - *not* via an app specific service - good Firefox plugin Any suggestions on what to try, or to avoid, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all! -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Great meeting last night!
by Tim Keller Nov. 14, 2014

Nov. 14, 2014

Hey Everybody! Last night we had a great meeting. Logan did a kick ass job on the Asterisks talk! Asterisks is cool than I thought and we all learned quite a bit. For those who were unable to attend, we had a surprise guest! Maddog showed up and brought along a "Banana Pi" and a "Adapteva Parallela". He also offered in the future to speak about the projects that he's currently working on. I was going to speak next month on STEM/Linux software/toys but I'm going to instead step aside for Maddog if it all works out. Also, we're going to work on getting the guy who runs Adapteva to come do a talk about the Parallela platform and his manycore architecture, etc. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder! WLUG meeting tomorrow night!
by Tim Keller Nov. 14, 2014

Nov. 14, 2014

Hey Everybody! Just a reminder we'll be having a meeting tomorrow night at 7PM in the mid-century room (rm 331)! Logan Brown will be speaking about Asterisk, the open source PBX software that lets you turn a linux computer into a sophisticated phone switch! There will be refreshments and after the meeting we'll head over to Tech for some pizza! Hope to see you there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Refreshments and snacks...
by Eric Martin Nov. 7, 2014

Nov. 7, 2014

I like it. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Those sound like good choices to me. > > On November 6, 2014 11:57:51 AM PST, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> My wife has offered to pick up the refreshments / snacks for the meeting. >> Does anybody have any preferences? >> >> I was thinking of bring Water / Coke / Cookies (likely Newman O's) >> >> We will be gorging ourselves on pizza right after so we don't have to go >> too crazy... >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Eric Martin

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Refreshments and snacks...
by Tim Keller Nov. 7, 2014

Nov. 7, 2014

My wife has offered to pick up the refreshments / snacks for the meeting. Does anybody have any preferences? I was thinking of bring Water / Coke / Cookies (likely Newman O's) We will be gorging ourselves on pizza right after so we don't have to go too crazy... Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Next WLUG meeting: Nov. 13th!
by Tim Keller Nov. 4, 2014

Nov. 4, 2014

Hey Everybody, The next WLUG meeting is going to be held Thursday Nov. 13th 2014. It will be held in the Mid-Century room (rm 331) of the student center. Logan Brown will be giving a talk about Asterisk, the open source PBX package that lets you turn computer into a full service phone switch. Refreshments will be available and we'll be going out for pizza afterwards. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Upcoming speakers for WLUG
by David Glaser Oct. 29, 2014

Oct. 29, 2014

That would be interestingespecially when combined with mesh networking. -David On 10/29/2014 12:17 AM, Frank Sweetser wrote: > If there's interest, I'd be happy to ramble on a bit about 802.11ac, the > current new high speed wireless protocol, as well as the batch of other wifi > variants that's currently in the design pipeline. > > On 10/27/2014 10:51 AM, Tim Keller wrote: >> Hey Everybody, >> >> Here are the speakers that will be coming up... >> >> Nov: Logan Brown will be giving a talk about Asterisk/VOIP. >> Dec: Tim Keller will be giving a talk about Linux educational software / STEM >> toys / etc. >> Jan: Andy Stewart will be giving a talk about MESH networking. >> >> More information about each of these talks will be send out at the beginning >> of each month. >> >> If there's a topic you'd like to hear a talk about or something you'd like to >> talk about, feel free to email the list or me and we'll make it work. >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>

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Upcoming speakers for WLUG
by Tim Keller Oct. 29, 2014

Oct. 29, 2014

Hey Everybody, Here are the speakers that will be coming up... Nov: Logan Brown will be giving a talk about Asterisk/VOIP. Dec: Tim Keller will be giving a talk about Linux educational software / STEM toys / etc. Jan: Andy Stewart will be giving a talk about MESH networking. More information about each of these talks will be send out at the beginning of each month. If there's a topic you'd like to hear a talk about or something you'd like to talk about, feel free to email the list or me and we'll make it work. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Topics for next meeting...
by Tim Keller Oct. 16, 2014

Oct. 16, 2014

I figure we're half way through October at this point, we should start thinking about what we'd like talk about for a topic next month. One area that's of interest to me with young kids is educational programs that work on linux. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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WLUG Meeting Tonight
by Chuck Anderson Oct. 9, 2014

Oct. 9, 2014

For what its worth at this point in time, a bunch of us ARE going to be at the meeting tonight, including myself.

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Musing about meetings...
by Tim Keller Oct. 9, 2014

Oct. 9, 2014

Okay Gang, In the 10+ years that this group has been in existence many of us have gotten married, had a couple of kids, etc. This means that planning for a WLUG meeting needs to happen in a much more scheduled manner. Sending out a meeting reminder the day before a meeting just doesn't cut it anymore. I've spoken with Chuck and things are going to be changing. However, before we do anything, I think it makes sense to ask some questions. Does the first Wednesday of every month work for everybody? Would going back to the Wed/Thurs alternating schedule work better for people? What I'd like to implement is an automated meeting system that'll automatically send a reminder at the beginning of the month and then a subsequent reminder the day or two before. I'd love input on this. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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The "broken" text file (was: I guess this is goodbye... )
by E Johnson Oct. 9, 2014

Oct. 9, 2014

Thanks, Keith. The program doesn't crash at all, and I don't think it is broken. It just can't do certain things that it used to do. This program is called Geneweb, and it's free, GNU, open-source, etc. http://opensource.geneanet.org/projects/geneweb. I am running version 5.01 which is not the latest, but I'm keeping it because in versions starting from 6, they changed something, and a mod that I installed (that I didn't write) that allows a display of three generations before and after the individual won't work any more. The data in the text file (called the base), containing various types of information about the individual, also contains some numbers and so forth, linking that person to his/her parents, children, spouse, etc. The program will access this file display an individual and parents, children, etc, if known in a web page that is nicely formatted; that's fine. What happens since May 2012 is that from the top page there is a choice of displaying all surnames (alphabetical), or a box in which one can input a surname, which then will result in a display of all persons with that name. That won't work now, and neither will the all-surnames display work. One can also choose to display persons sorted on title or estate, which also doesn't work. The problem really is in the text file (the base). I have several different databases here, and the others, one of which contains 50,000 individuals, perform perfectly. But in my big database, it hangs, seeming to get lost, when asked to display surnames or estates. The data in the text file is supposed to look like this, more or less: 0 @I1@ INDI 1 NAME Bob /Cox/ 1 SEX M 1 FAMS @F1@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 11 FEB 2006 0 @I2@ INDI 1 NAME Joann /Para/ 1 SEX F 1 FAMS @F1@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 11 FEB 2006 0 @I3@ INDI 1 NAME Bobby Jo /Cox/ 1 SEX M 1 FAMC @F1@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 11 FEB 2006 0 @F1@ FAM 1 HUSB @I1@ 1 WIFE @I2@ 1 MARR 1 CHIL @I3@ 0 TRLR I also can't create a backup or copy to anywhere, which is crucial, and I can't move the base file, either to another location on the hard drive or to another device. I also can't get it to re-sort, which would be nice, because that cleans up "ghosts" or leftover info on individuals that don't "exist" any more because they have been merged with another one who turned out to be the same person. This problem first cropped up when I had either 86,000 individuals or 82,000 individuals, 2 1/2 years ago. If I ever use the wrong terminology, I aploogize, but I'm not an IT specialist. I am a Linux User located in Worcester. Last time I wrote a program, it was in Basic. I should have said, I guess, is that there must be some bad characters in this text file "base", which makes it impossible for the program that uses it to perform certain functions, such as Sort, or to display certain data, such as all persons of the surname {Whatever}. Liz I didn't know what could be meant by "broken text file", now I see that you mean "broken file processing program". Do you have the source for the geneology program? If not, insert rant here. Does the program crash as soon as you import the file, or only when you do something particular? My first impulse would be to put printf commands into the input procedure. Do you have a spec for what the data is supposed to look like, or is this one of those take-the-money-and-(run|hide| sell updates) programs, whose authors think that's super double secret eye pee? > The text file has been broken since May 2012. This is a genealogical > database, that runs in a program that accesses the file, which consists of > names, dates, places, etc, plus notes. I think the bogus character might be > an at sign @ but if so, it won't help to search for it, because GEDCOMS > contain several @ for each individual. My database contains 115,000 > individuals. I think I know what family (surname) I was working on when it > broke, though, and it still hangs there. I guess I could grep the file for > that surname and get it to output a couple of lines after it finds each > instance.

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I guess this is goodbye to WLUG
by Joel Oct. 8, 2014

Oct. 8, 2014

Sent messages last month asking about the monthly meeting. No response in a month. No messages in a month. My time with WLUG was fun & informative. I wish you all health & happiness. Thank you, Joel

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Subject: Is there a WLUG meeting tonight?
by joel d Sept. 11, 2014

Sept. 11, 2014

Disabled digest mode on my subscription this morning, so I would not read WLUG meeting replies tomorrow morning. Checked wlug.org website but could not find today's current messages there (in case I am still a digest e-mail guy). Now hours later still wondering about percent chance of tonight's WLUG meeting. I am not driving 60 minutes R.T. for a maybe. WLUG meeting or not, everyone have a good night! Joel Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:50:24 -0400 From: joel d <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Wlug] Is there a WLUG meeting tonight? To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Cc: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <CAHLVwo8C55enazQT-4p7FfeP+ NVdi9ba2OLBRL=Piq7k8QbNuQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Have not heard much from WLUG e-mail group in past weeks. Could be just a busy time of year for all, just like me. Is there a meeting this evening at WPI at 7pm our the usual location? Thank you, Joel

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Is there a WLUG meeting tonight?
by joel d Sept. 11, 2014

Sept. 11, 2014

Have not heard much from WLUG e-mail group in past weeks. Could be just a busy time of year for all, just like me. Is there a meeting this evening at WPI at 7pm our the usual location? Thank you, Joel

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