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Re: [Wlug] Lenovo Black Screen Issue
by John Stoffel Oct. 5, 2017

Oct. 5, 2017

>>>>> "THE" == THE HAMMER <hammerron(a)hotmail.com> writes: THE> Thank you to the people who replied with questions or suggestions. THE> Here is some additional info: THE> The keyboard backlighting is what flashes briefly at start up attempt. The THE> screen shows no light what so ever. THE> Tried launching systems off of live usbs...no luck THE> Tried the Lenovo reset button.....no luck THE> Tried running a different screen with an hdmi cable....it said no input I suspect the unit is dead and might need to be opened up to look for problems like broken connections, burnt spots on the motherboard, etc. Maybe try taking it apart and then putting it back together. The drop(s) could have knocked something loose. Pull out the disk in the system might also help. Otherwise... send it to Lenovo for repair, or buy a new/used one to replace.

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Re: [Wlug] Lenovo Black Screen Issue
by THE HAMMER Oct. 5, 2017

Oct. 5, 2017

Thank you to the people who replied with questions or suggestions. Here is some additional info: The keyboard backlighting is what flashes briefly at start up attempt. The screen shows no light what so ever. Tried launching systems off of live usbs...no luck Tried the Lenovo reset button.....no luck Tried running a different screen with an hdmi cable....it said no input ________________________________ From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org <wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org> on behalf of John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 2:10 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Lenovo Black Screen Issue THE> ..hope this is not too off topic.. Have a friend with a Lenovo THE> ideapad. The screen stays black and does not light up THE> whatsoever. Would anyone have suggestions for best way to go THE> with it? Try plugging the thing into a monitor while it's powered off, then power it on and see if you get anything that way. It could be that the display is fried. Does the disk spin up? Does it have windows on it? Can you put a USB thumb drive on the system and try to boot from that (knoppix is really good for this, or one of the system rescue linux images). THE> The sticker on it gives further info: Windows 8, intel core i5, THE> and Ultrabook. Would need more, like the model number. THE> The power button lights up and stays on when you try to turn the THE> unit on, as long as you keep the power cord plugged in. THE> Apparently the battery holds no charge. The keyboard keys THE> quickly flash once also when the start button is hit. which keys flash? THE> The case does show some dents, and they say it was dropped a few times. LOL! THE> They've tried disconnecting the battery thing with no luck. External display is my first bet. Remove the hardware as well if possible. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Lenovo Black Screen Issue
by jebaill52 Oct. 4, 2017

Oct. 4, 2017

Power it down. Press the Novo button with a paper clip or something small. This will bring you to the Novo menu which has bios,boot,and recovery entries. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> Date: 10/4/17 2:10 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Lenovo Black Screen Issue THE> ..hope this is not too off topic.. Have a friend with a Lenovo THE> ideapad. The screen stays black and does not light up THE> whatsoever. Would anyone have suggestions for best way to go THE> with it? Try plugging the thing into a monitor while it's powered off, then power it on and see if you get anything that way. It could be that the display is fried. Does the disk spin up? Does it have windows on it? Can you put a USB thumb drive on the system and try to boot from that (knoppix is really good for this, or one of the system rescue linux images). THE> The sticker on it gives further info: Windows 8, intel core i5, THE> and Ultrabook. Would need more, like the model number. THE> The power button lights up and stays on when you try to turn the THE> unit on, as long as you keep the power cord plugged in. THE> Apparently the battery holds no charge. The keyboard keys THE> quickly flash once also when the start button is hit. which keys flash? THE> The case does show some dents, and they say it was dropped a few times. LOL! THE> They've tried disconnecting the battery thing with no luck. External display is my first bet. Remove the hardware as well if possible. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Lenovo Black Screen Issue
by Michael C Voorhis Oct. 4, 2017

Oct. 4, 2017

John Stoffel writes: > THE> The keyboard keys quickly flash once also when the start button > THE> is hit. > which keys flash? When a lenovo portable with a backlit keyboard is powered up, the keyboard backlight will light up once and fade out--a part of the POST I presume. Maybe this is what they're talking about. --MCV.

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Re: [Wlug] Lenovo Black Screen Issue
by John Stoffel Oct. 4, 2017

Oct. 4, 2017

THE> ..hope this is not too off topic.. Have a friend with a Lenovo THE> ideapad. The screen stays black and does not light up THE> whatsoever. Would anyone have suggestions for best way to go THE> with it? Try plugging the thing into a monitor while it's powered off, then power it on and see if you get anything that way. It could be that the display is fried. Does the disk spin up? Does it have windows on it? Can you put a USB thumb drive on the system and try to boot from that (knoppix is really good for this, or one of the system rescue linux images). THE> The sticker on it gives further info: Windows 8, intel core i5, THE> and Ultrabook. Would need more, like the model number. THE> The power button lights up and stays on when you try to turn the THE> unit on, as long as you keep the power cord plugged in. THE> Apparently the battery holds no charge. The keyboard keys THE> quickly flash once also when the start button is hit. which keys flash? THE> The case does show some dents, and they say it was dropped a few times. LOL! THE> They've tried disconnecting the battery thing with no luck. External display is my first bet. Remove the hardware as well if possible.

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Lenovo Black Screen Issue
by THE HAMMER Oct. 4, 2017

Oct. 4, 2017

..hope this is not too off topic.. Have a friend with a Lenovo ideapad. The screen stays black and does not light up whatsoever. Would anyone have suggestions for best way to go with it? More details: The sticker on it gives further info: Windows 8, intel core i5, and Ultrabook. The power button lights up and stays on when you try to turn the unit on, as long as you keep the power cord plugged in. Apparently the battery holds no charge. The keyboard keys quickly flash once also when the start button is hit. The case does show some dents, and they say it was dropped a few times. They've tried disconnecting the battery thing with no luck. Any suggestions?

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Meeting Oct 12th 2017 at 7pm. Topic: Ansible Location: WPI Campus Center Rm 331
by Tim Keller Oct. 4, 2017

Oct. 4, 2017

Hey Gang, Our next meeting will be on October 12th at 7pm. I'm going to give a quick talk on Ansible. It's a handy tool I use for install software on LOTS of computers. I'll also talk about Ansible playbooks as well. After that I figure we can talk about things people might want as topics and then head down for pizza at Tech. As usual snacks and refreshments will be provided. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Autonomous Small Robot Association/Society/League
by Tim Keller Sept. 23, 2017

Sept. 23, 2017

David, Would you be interested in doing a talk on this? Thanks, Tim. On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 6:54 PM, David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > A buddy of mine and I have been kicking around the idea of starting a > local organization for building small robots the would be used in > competitions. As a place holder name, we have chosen Autonomous Small > Robot Association/Society/League. > > Attached is a link to a PDF file that provides a bare bones outline of > the proposal. Basically, we would be following the rules espoused by > the PiWars.org web site and to that end, I am building a little robot > that will use image/vision processing to navigate the challenges (RPi, > opencv, tensorflow) > > If anyone of this list is interested, please contact me at > dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net or Ron Mourant at mourant(a)gmail.com > > Regards > > David Glaser > > > Link to file > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/w6mq1ywqlxy81qg/Proposal-2017-09-22.pdf?dl=0 > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Autonomous Small Robot Association/Society/League
by David Glaser Sept. 23, 2017

Sept. 23, 2017

Hi Folks, A buddy of mine and I have been kicking around the idea of starting a local organization for building small robots the would be used in competitions. As a place holder name, we have chosen Autonomous Small Robot Association/Society/League. Attached is a link to a PDF file that provides a bare bones outline of the proposal. Basically, we would be following the rules espoused by the PiWars.org web site and to that end, I am building a little robot that will use image/vision processing to navigate the challenges (RPi, opencv, tensorflow) If anyone of this list is interested, please contact me at dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net or Ron Mourant at mourant(a)gmail.com Regards David Glaser Link to file https://www.dropbox.com/s/w6mq1ywqlxy81qg/Proposal-2017-09-22.pdf?dl=0

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The show will go on without me on Thursday.
by Tim Keller Sept. 13, 2017

Sept. 13, 2017

Hey Gang, I've just learned that I've got my daughters open house on Thursday night. Logan will present, but I'll only be there in spirit. Sorry, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder! Meeting Sept. 14th, 2017! Topic: Ceph!
by Tim Keller Sept. 12, 2017

Sept. 12, 2017

Hey Gang, This is a reminder that we've got a meeting on Thursday! Location: WPI Campus Center Rm 331. Time: 7pm Topic: Ceph. Presenters: Logan Brown and Tim Keller Ceph is a scalable storage system that provides object, block and file system services. You can grow it dynamically across multiple machines for fault tolerance and performance. Logan and I have both been experimenting with Ceph. I've been playing with in my data center and Logan has gone full production at home with it as a NAS. We'll be able to talk about it's design philosophy, expandability, fault tolerance and management. As usual, snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll head off to Tech Pizza to continue the conversation. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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WLUG Meeting Sept. 14th 2017! @7pm Topic: Ceph
by Tim Keller Sept. 5, 2017

Sept. 5, 2017

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting! Location: WPI Campus Center Rm 331. Time: 7pm Topic: Ceph Presenters: Logan Brown and Tim Keller. What is Ceph? Ceph is a scalable storage system that provides object, block and file system services. You can grow it dynamically across multiple machines for fault tolerance and performance. Logan and I have both been experimenting with Ceph. I've been playing with in my data center and Logan has gone full production at home with it as a NAS. We'll be able to talk about it's design philosophy, expandability, fault tolerance and management. As usual, snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll head off to Tech Pizza to continue the conversation. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Great BBQ!
by Tim Keller Aug. 11, 2017

Aug. 11, 2017

To all those who attended, Thanks! It was a great time, there was good food and much reminiscing. To all those who couldn't attend, there's always next year! I'd like to lastly thank Doug and Maureen for graciously opening their home. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder! 20th Anniversary BBQ this Thursday!!!
by Tim Keller Aug. 7, 2017

Aug. 7, 2017

Hey Gang, Just a reminder, we've got a BBQ on Thursday! Location: 540 Linden St, Boylston MA Time: 7pm. Topic: Marvel at 20 years of WLUG and where linux has come in 20 years! Food: Hot Dogs / Burgers / Chips / Soda... the usual BBQ food. Doug has mentioned his pool is open, so bring appropriate swimwear/towel if you'd like. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] 20th Anniversary WLUG BBQ August 10th!!!
by Andy Stewart Aug. 4, 2017

Aug. 4, 2017

On 08/04/2017 02:10 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang, > > I want to start by thanking long time member Doug Mildram for graciously > offering up his home for the 20th anniversary WLUG BBQ! HI gang, I am looking forward to seeing all of you that evening! Please look around and see if you have any photos/jpegs/pngs from past WLUG events, and bring them if you can. Maybe you have one of our WLUG Install Fest CDs that Tim silk screened for us way back when? Perhaps you have a copy of Doug Waud's network slides (with the two paper cups and a string). Whatever you have that reminds you of great WLUG times of the past, please bring it to the party. See ya then! Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

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Re: [Wlug] DNS not resolving
by Richard Klein Aug. 4, 2017

Aug. 4, 2017

I hate to admit that I'm using Kali for a daily driver, but it usually works fine. Plus, it's based on debian. Anyway, I created /etc/resolvconf containing: nameserver 8.8.8.8 and that did the trick. I have connectivity now. I still want to understand the mechanics. As you can see, the NetworkManager GUI doesn't agree with /etc/resolvconf, and the file seems to take precedence over the GUI. http://imgur.com/a/Rngbf On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:16 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Richard> I did a dist-upgrade on my computer. Afterward, I got an > Richard> error related to a broken link for resolvconf. I read > Richard> somewhere that the file gets created if it doesn't exist, so > Richard> I unlinked and deleted the offending file (I think it was / > Richard> etc/resolvconf, but I don't remember). > > Sounds like your on a debian style system. Details please? For > example, on Ubuntu (recent ones I think) you need to add a line like: > > dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8 > > into your /etc/network/interfaces file so that on bootup it will > populate /etc/resolv.conf properly. > > Richard> Now I don't seem to have any DNS. I can still access my > Richard> routers menu by typing in the dotted quad, but no alpha > Richard> URLs. Any ideas? > > cat /etc/resolv.conf first off. > > Richard> I entered the Google DNS addresses: 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.8.4 in the > network settings > Richard> GUI. That looks good, but addresses still aren't resolving. > > You might need to reboot, but first just tell us the Distribution and > version you're using. > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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20th Anniversary WLUG BBQ August 10th!!!
by Tim Keller Aug. 4, 2017

Aug. 4, 2017

Hey Gang, I want to start by thanking long time member Doug Mildram for graciously offering up his home for the 20th anniversary WLUG BBQ! Date: August 10th, 2017 @ 7pm. Location: 540 Linden St, Boylston MA Topic: Marvel at 20 years of WLUG and where linux has come in 20 years! Food: If you have special dietary requirements feel free to bring your own stuff. I don't believe that Doug keeps a kosher home so please take that into consideration as well. I'm going to bring an assortment of Hotdogs / Hamburgers / Brautwurst, etc. As well as Chips / Dips / Soda. Doug has also mentioned that his pool is fully operational so if you're inclined to swim, bring appropriate gear. Please email me directory (turbofx(a)gmail.com) that you're coming so I can accurately purchase food and drink. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] DNS not resolving
by Eric Martin Aug. 4, 2017

Aug. 4, 2017

Can you ping 8.8.8.8? If you can’t ping it, that would explain why you can’t resolve even if resolv.conf is correct. The syntax that others mentioned is good, you should be set if you can ping. If you can’t ping that, can you ping your gateway, what’s you up if you can’t? Hope that helps. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:24 PM Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: > Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> writes: > > > I did a dist-upgrade on my computer. Afterward, I got an error related > > to a broken link for resolvconf. I read somewhere that the file gets > > created if it doesn't exist, so I unlinked and deleted the offending > > file (I think it was /etc/resolvconf, but I don't remember). > > Don't confuse resolv.conf with resolvconf. > The file /etc/resolv.conf is the traditional > configuration file that says where to find a name server. > > Try putting this in there: > > # cat /etc/resolv.conf > nameserver 8.8.8.8 > > Depending upon your distribution, there may be magic > whizz-bang stuff that automatically rewrites this file > based upon other configuration files or guis. > I think resolvconf is one of those. It may overwrite > /etc/resolv.conf, but if a handwritten resolve.conf > works, that gives you a place to start. > > At least that's my first guess. > > -- Keith > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile

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Re: [Wlug] DNS not resolving
by Keith Wright Aug. 4, 2017

Aug. 4, 2017

Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> writes: > I did a dist-upgrade on my computer. Afterward, I got an error related > to a broken link for resolvconf. I read somewhere that the file gets > created if it doesn't exist, so I unlinked and deleted the offending > file (I think it was /etc/resolvconf, but I don't remember). Don't confuse resolv.conf with resolvconf. The file /etc/resolv.conf is the traditional configuration file that says where to find a name server. Try putting this in there: # cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 8.8.8.8 Depending upon your distribution, there may be magic whizz-bang stuff that automatically rewrites this file based upon other configuration files or guis. I think resolvconf is one of those. It may overwrite /etc/resolv.conf, but if a handwritten resolve.conf works, that gives you a place to start. At least that's my first guess. -- Keith

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Re: [Wlug] DNS not resolving
by John Stoffel Aug. 4, 2017

Aug. 4, 2017

Richard> I did a dist-upgrade on my computer. Afterward, I got an Richard> error related to a broken link for resolvconf. I read Richard> somewhere that the file gets created if it doesn't exist, so Richard> I unlinked and deleted the offending file (I think it was / Richard> etc/resolvconf, but I don't remember). Sounds like your on a debian style system. Details please? For example, on Ubuntu (recent ones I think) you need to add a line like: dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8 into your /etc/network/interfaces file so that on bootup it will populate /etc/resolv.conf properly. Richard> Now I don't seem to have any DNS. I can still access my Richard> routers menu by typing in the dotted quad, but no alpha Richard> URLs. Any ideas? cat /etc/resolv.conf first off. Richard> I entered the Google DNS addresses: 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.8.4 in the network settings Richard> GUI. That looks good, but addresses still aren't resolving. You might need to reboot, but first just tell us the Distribution and version you're using. John

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DNS not resolving
by Richard Klein Aug. 4, 2017

Aug. 4, 2017

I did a dist-upgrade on my computer. Afterward, I got an error related to a broken link for resolvconf. I read somewhere that the file gets created if it doesn't exist, so I unlinked and deleted the offending file (I think it was /etc/resolvconf, but I don't remember). Now I don't seem to have any DNS. I can still access my routers menu by typing in the dotted quad, but no alpha URLs. Any ideas? I entered the Google DNS addresses: 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.8.4 in the network settings GUI. That looks good, but addresses still aren't resolving.

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Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting: July 13th 2017
by Chuck Anderson July 14, 2017

July 14, 2017

July is often a difficult month. Many people on vacations, etc. Joining the email list is self-service: http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug which is linked from the top of the main website: http://www.wlug.org/ On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:58:26AM -0400, Eric Martin wrote: > I think a lot of us had other commitments last night, I know I did. In other news, did we ever figure out when and where for the BBQ? > > Thank you, > -- > Eric > > > On Jul 14, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: > > > > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > >> Our next meeting is going to be July 13th 2017. > >> Location: WPI Campus center MidCentury Room (rm 331) > >> Topic: Currently no topic. > >> I'm going to be on vacation and will miss this meeting. > >> Thanks, Tim. > > > > Well, that didn't work out so well. > > > > I went to the location at the time, but there was not > > only no topic, but no meeting really. Only one other > > person was there. He said he is not on the mailing > > list and so did not get the cancellation notice. > > I said I am on the mailling list and did not > > get any such notice. We talked about stuff for > > half an hour and then went about our respective > > businesses. > > > > He gave me his email address, and asked to be put > > on the mailing list. I can't do that, but will > > the powers that fade in and out of being please > > add the following address to the WLUG mailing > > list: > > > > KB0996(a)hotmail.com > > > > thank you, > > -- Keith

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Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting: July 13th 2017
by Tim Keller July 14, 2017

July 14, 2017

Well that saddens me. I was hoping there'd be a meeting despite me. As for the BBQ I'd like to have it next month if at all possible, barring that having it in autumn worked out really well last year. I'll think up some dates and put them out. The one person I REALLY want to attend is Andy, so Andy since I know you read the mailing list, let me know what works for you and I'll engineer it so. Maddog, that counts for you as well. I'm going to start planning an *actual* list of topics as well. Later, Tim. On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think a lot of us had other commitments last night, I know I did. In > other news, did we ever figure out when and where for the BBQ? > > Thank you, > -- > Eric > > > On Jul 14, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> > wrote: > > > > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > >> Our next meeting is going to be July 13th 2017. > >> Location: WPI Campus center MidCentury Room (rm 331) > >> Topic: Currently no topic. > >> I'm going to be on vacation and will miss this meeting. > >> Thanks, Tim. > > > > Well, that didn't work out so well. > > > > I went to the location at the time, but there was not > > only no topic, but no meeting really. Only one other > > person was there. He said he is not on the mailing > > list and so did not get the cancellation notice. > > I said I am on the mailling list and did not > > get any such notice. We talked about stuff for > > half an hour and then went about our respective > > businesses. > > > > He gave me his email address, and asked to be put > > on the mailing list. I can't do that, but will > > the powers that fade in and out of being please > > add the following address to the WLUG mailing > > list: > > > > KB0996(a)hotmail.com > > > > thank you, > > -- Keith > > > > PS: not what I expected, but no disaster either. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting: July 13th 2017
by Eric Martin July 14, 2017

July 14, 2017

I think a lot of us had other commitments last night, I know I did. In other news, did we ever figure out when and where for the BBQ? Thank you, -- Eric > On Jul 14, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: > > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> Our next meeting is going to be July 13th 2017. >> Location: WPI Campus center MidCentury Room (rm 331) >> Topic: Currently no topic. >> I'm going to be on vacation and will miss this meeting. >> Thanks, Tim. > > Well, that didn't work out so well. > > I went to the location at the time, but there was not > only no topic, but no meeting really. Only one other > person was there. He said he is not on the mailing > list and so did not get the cancellation notice. > I said I am on the mailling list and did not > get any such notice. We talked about stuff for > half an hour and then went about our respective > businesses. > > He gave me his email address, and asked to be put > on the mailing list. I can't do that, but will > the powers that fade in and out of being please > add the following address to the WLUG mailing > list: > > KB0996(a)hotmail.com > > thank you, > -- Keith > > PS: not what I expected, but no disaster either. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting: July 13th 2017
by Keith Wright July 14, 2017

July 14, 2017

Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > Our next meeting is going to be July 13th 2017. > Location: WPI Campus center MidCentury Room (rm 331) > Topic: Currently no topic. > I'm going to be on vacation and will miss this meeting. > Thanks, Tim. Well, that didn't work out so well. I went to the location at the time, but there was not only no topic, but no meeting really. Only one other person was there. He said he is not on the mailing list and so did not get the cancellation notice. I said I am on the mailling list and did not get any such notice. We talked about stuff for half an hour and then went about our respective businesses. He gave me his email address, and asked to be put on the mailing list. I can't do that, but will the powers that fade in and out of being please add the following address to the WLUG mailing list: KB0996(a)hotmail.com thank you, -- Keith PS: not what I expected, but no disaster either.

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