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Reminder! Meeting August 9th 2018 at 7pm
by Tim Keller 05 Aug '18

05 Aug '18

Hey Gang! We've got a WLUG meeting August 9th! Location: Campus Center Mid Century Room (rm 331) at 7pm. Topic: I'm working on that!!! If there's something cool you've been working on, or would like to show off, let me know! As usual refreshments and snacks will be provided. Afterwards we'll head off for dinner and keep up the conversation! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Microsoft PowerShell
by Richard Klein 01 Aug '18

01 Aug '18

Microsoft PowerShell is now available as a Snap: https://betanews.com/2018/07/20/microsoft-powershell-core-linux-snap/ -- Rich

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Full Home folder
by Richard Klein 30 Jul '18

30 Jul '18

I found today that my Home folder is full. The culprit seems to have been a roughly 1/2 terabyte .xsession-errors file. I deleted it, but 'emptying the trash' didn't seem to be clearing any space. I found that everything I'd thought I'd deleted recently seemed to still be sitting in $uname/.local/share/Trash. I selected everything in that folder and typed shift+delete. Now nothing shows in the Trash folder, but my Home folder is still full. I rebooted, and that's still the case. What now? [code] Debian-Precision:~$ uname -a Linux Debian-Precision 4.9.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.88-1+deb9u1 (2018-05-07) x86_64 GNU/Linux [/code] -- Rich

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Re: Full Home folder
by Gelman, Ian S 29 Jul '18

29 Jul '18

oops - forgot to add the mailer On Jul 29, 2018, at 4:41 PM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org<mailto:rich@richardklein.org>> wrote: Debian-Precision:~$ sudo du -h / --max-depth=1 | sort -h [sudo] password for $uname: du: cannot read directory '/proc/1411/task/1411/net': Invalid argument du: cannot read directory '/proc/1411/net': Invalid argument du: cannot access '/proc/3892/task/3892/fd/4': No such file or directory du: cannot access '/proc/3892/task/3892/fdinfo/4': No such file or directory du: cannot access '/proc/3892/fd/3': No such file or directory du: cannot access '/proc/3892/fdinfo/3': No such file or directory 0 /proc 0 /sys 4.0K /lib64 4.0K /mnt 4.0K /srv 16K /lost+found 20K /dev 72K /tmp 9.2M /run 9.3M /bin 9.5M /etc 11M /sbin 19M /root 34M /boot 181M /opt 233M /lib 1.1G /home 1.1G /var 1.7G /snap 3.1G /usr 730G /media 737G / On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 4:37 PM Gelman, Ian S <isgelman(a)wpi.edu<mailto:isgelman@wpi.edu>> wrote: What does the output of du (disk-usage) give? Try this: sudo du -h / --max-depth=1 | sort -h On Jul 29, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org<mailto:rich@richardklein.org>> wrote: I found today that my Home folder is full. The culprit seems to have been a roughly 1/2 terabyte .xsession-errors file. I deleted it, but 'emptying the trash' didn't seem to be clearing any space. I found that everything I'd thought I'd deleted recently seemed to still be sitting in $uname/.local/share/Trash. I selected everything in that folder and typed shift+delete. Now nothing shows in the Trash folder, but my Home folder is still full. I rebooted, and that's still the case. What now? [code] Debian-Precision:~$ uname -a Linux Debian-Precision 4.9.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.88-1+deb9u1 (2018-05-07) x86_64 GNU/Linux [/code] -- Rich _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org>

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IMPORTANT: WLUG Mailing List Move Complete
by Chuck Anderson 21 Jul '18

21 Jul '18

By now everyone should have received a welcome message from the new list server, wlug(a)lists.wlug.org, along with instructions for setting your password. I'm still working on getting the archives moved over. Please use only the new list address wlug(a)lists.wlug.org to post--if you use an old address you'll get a reminder to use the new one, at least until a few weeks from now when the old server will have to go offline. I'd also like to thank our generous host http://mailman3.com for providing our new mailing list and Hyperkitty web forum free of charge. Thanks, Chuck On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 04:57:01PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > After 18+ years of the WLUG mailing list being graciously hosted on > the WPI campus network at no cost to WLUG, we must move to an external > mailing list host as WPI prepares to shut down its Linux email > infrastructure after moving to Microsoft Office 365 in the cloud. > Phase 1 begins Monday, July 23, 2018, but the shutdown for third-party > domains like wlug.org is planned for mid- to late-August. > > Luckily, we have a new sponsor who has generously offered to host our > mailing list at no cost on Mailman 3 with Hyperkitty! We are > currently setting up the new mailing list and working out the details, > but I wanted to send out a "heads up" message to everyone before > anything changes. > > The plan is to set up the new host in parallel with the existing host, > but this necessitates a change in the mailing list address. I also > plan to copy the existing subscriber list (and archives if possible) > over to the new list, but if that isn't possible I'll let everyone > know. > > More details will be coming soon. I'll also update the WLUG website > http://www.wlug.org/ with the new mailing list details when we are > ready, so watch that space in case we lose the ability to send to the > old list! Worst case, we have the subscriber list backed up and could > send an email to everyone individually if it becomes necessary. > > Thanks, > Chuck

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Re: Welcome to the "WLUG" mailing list
by Richard Klein 20 Jul '18

20 Jul '18

Success! On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:07 AM <wlug-request(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Welcome to the "WLUG" mailing list! >

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Re: [Wlug] IMPORTANT: Upcoming WLUG Mailing List Move
by Richard Klein 20 Jul '18

20 Jul '18

Thanks Chuck! On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 4:59 PM Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > After 18+ years of the WLUG mailing list being graciously hosted on > the WPI campus network at no cost to WLUG, we must move to an external > mailing list host as WPI prepares to shut down its Linux email > infrastructure after moving to Microsoft Office 365 in the cloud. > Phase 1 begins Monday, July 23, 2018, but the shutdown for third-party > domains like wlug.org is planned for mid- to late-August. > > Luckily, we have a new sponsor who has generously offered to host our > mailing list at no cost on Mailman 3 with Hyperkitty! We are > currently setting up the new mailing list and working out the details, > but I wanted to send out a "heads up" message to everyone before > anything changes. > > The plan is to set up the new host in parallel with the existing host, > but this necessitates a change in the mailing list address. I also > plan to copy the existing subscriber list (and archives if possible) > over to the new list, but if that isn't possible I'll let everyone > know. > > More details will be coming soon. I'll also update the WLUG website > http://www.wlug.org/ with the new mailing list details when we are > ready, so watch that space in case we lose the ability to send to the > old list! Worst case, we have the subscriber list backed up and could > send an email to everyone individually if it becomes necessary. > > Thanks, > Chuck > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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IMPORTANT: Upcoming WLUG Mailing List Move
by Chuck Anderson 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

After 18+ years of the WLUG mailing list being graciously hosted on the WPI campus network at no cost to WLUG, we must move to an external mailing list host as WPI prepares to shut down its Linux email infrastructure after moving to Microsoft Office 365 in the cloud. Phase 1 begins Monday, July 23, 2018, but the shutdown for third-party domains like wlug.org is planned for mid- to late-August. Luckily, we have a new sponsor who has generously offered to host our mailing list at no cost on Mailman 3 with Hyperkitty! We are currently setting up the new mailing list and working out the details, but I wanted to send out a "heads up" message to everyone before anything changes. The plan is to set up the new host in parallel with the existing host, but this necessitates a change in the mailing list address. I also plan to copy the existing subscriber list (and archives if possible) over to the new list, but if that isn't possible I'll let everyone know. More details will be coming soon. I'll also update the WLUG website http://www.wlug.org/ with the new mailing list details when we are ready, so watch that space in case we lose the ability to send to the old list! Worst case, we have the subscriber list backed up and could send an email to everyone individually if it becomes necessary. Thanks, Chuck

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second threat
by Chuck Anderson 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

second thread (from Hyperkitty)

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first post
by Chuck Anderson 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

First post!

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TinyArcade and Arduboy
by Dennis Payne 18 Jul '18

18 Jul '18

I've been playing around with the Tiny Arcade by Tiny Circuits. It's been a lot of fun programming. The initial development of Color Monster is documented here: http://identicalsoftware.com/games/colormonster The new Pocket Arcade has me really interested but it isn't available yet. I stumbled across the Arduboy. (Stumbled again? I'm pretty sure I saw the kickstarter and decided against it.) Does anyone have one? What do they think of it? I think it isn't quite what I want for a system. Seems like it can be annoying to upload a new game onto the system. While I had fun with the TinyScreen Video Game Kit, I like the microsd card of the Tiny Arcade so you can have multiple games available.

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Re: [Wlug] Podcasts
by Tim Keller 16 Jul '18

16 Jul '18

The podcast I spoke about was "Opening Arguments" https://openargs.com/ Tim. On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > I mentioned a couple podcasts last night. > > First was the Amp Hour podcast, specifically an episode where they > interviewed someone who reverse engineers ICs for the automotive industry: > https://theamphour.com/397-8-an-interview-with-chris-gerlinsky/ > > The second was Stay Tuned With Preet. Preet Bharara doesn't avoid > politics, but that's not what the podcast is about. He interviews other > lawyers so you can hear what a courtroom is like from the perspective of a > prosecutor or a defense attorney or a defendant, and he asks them about > their more memorable cases. > https://www.wnycstudios.org/shows/preetbharara > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Podcasts
by Richard Klein 13 Jul '18

13 Jul '18

I mentioned a couple podcasts last night. First was the Amp Hour podcast, specifically an episode where they interviewed someone who reverse engineers ICs for the automotive industry: https://theamphour.com/397-8-an-interview-with-chris-gerlinsky/ The second was Stay Tuned With Preet. Preet Bharara doesn't avoid politics, but that's not what the podcast is about. He interviews other lawyers so you can hear what a courtroom is like from the perspective of a prosecutor or a defense attorney or a defendant, and he asks them about their more memorable cases. https://www.wnycstudios.org/shows/preetbharara

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UPS power backup unit needs home
by E Johnson 13 Jul '18

13 Jul '18

I have a UPS power backup unit here that I can't use. This is a Cyber Power model 1000PFCLCD. This should supply around 15 minutes of power to your computer & peripherals in the event of a power outage. Enough time to shutdown your delicate operations properly, save the doc you were just working on, or put your game on pause... Purchased several years ago (for around $109), I never used it in the old place because NONE of the circuits were grounded --so it wouldn't ever do anything. Now in the new place, nothing is grounded here either! Probably it works but I was never able to test it, since it requires a grounded circuit even to charge itself. It has not been abused except by a little dust. This is about the size of eight bricks all stacked together into a box shape... Probably heavier than eight bricks. Unscented; smoke- & cat-free. Will go with your other shiny black computer decor. Someone needs this! I want you to want this! Offering it here first, FREE to good home. I am still in Worcester, now on the quieter end of Vernon St. Pickup time flexible, and we have an off-street spot where you can temporarily park. Who wants this? Let me know. Liz J

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Reminder! Meeting July 12th 2017 Topic: Open Forum / BBQ / guix
by Tim Keller 11 Jul '18

11 Jul '18

Hey Gang, Our next meeting is July 12th, 2018. Currently there isn't a topic, so I think I'm going to call this an open forum meeting. There was some talk about guix, so we'll definitely be talking about that. We'll also talk about when we want the BBQ. Personally, my vote is for Sept. Less bugs, cooler weather, etc. Obviously if someone with a pool wants to pitch for August I can be persuaded! Location: WPI Campus Center Rm 301 (Hagglund room) When you come up the stairs go right instead of left. Refreshments and snacks will be provided. Afterwards we'll head off for dinner and keep up the conversation. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] BBQ Question
by Tim Keller 11 Jul '18

11 Jul '18

You're thinking of last years BBQ! My plan was to have the BBQ either August or Sept. Being anywhere near a grill when it's 100 degrees just isn't enjoyable. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:47 AM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > I thought it already happened. Maybe I'm thinking of last year's BBQ? > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:43 AM Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> > wrote: > >> THE HAMMER <hammerron(a)hotmail.com> writes: >> >> > I wasn't able to get to the last meeting so am >> > wondering of there has been any talk of a WLUG BBQ? >> >> No. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting: July 12th 2018 Topic: Open Forum Location: WPI campus Center room 301 (Hagglund)
by Tim Keller 09 Jul '18

09 Jul '18

Very cool... I guess we've got a topic now? Is someone interested in talking about this? On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: > Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > So is guix GNU Herd or some new GUI frontend? > > It's big news on the Guile Scheme mailing list. > It's a package managment system. > > -- Keith > > From: ludo(a)gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) > To: guix-devel(a)gnu.org, help-guix(a)gnu.org, > gnu-system-discuss(a)gnu.org, info-gnu(a)gnu.org > Subject: GNU Guix & GuixSD 0.15.0 released > Cc: guile-user(a)gnu.org, nix-dev(a)lists.science.uu.nl > > We are pleased to announce the release of GNU Guix & GuixSD 0.15.0, > representing 7,020 commits by 100 people over 7 months. > > This release brings us close to our goals for 1.0, so it’s probably one > of the last zero-dot-something releases. > > • About > > GNU Guix is a transactional package manager for the GNU system. > The Guix System Distribution, GuixSD, is an advanced distribution > of the GNU system. > > In addition to standard package management features, Guix supports > transactional upgrades and roll-backs, unprivileged package > management, and per-user profiles. GuixSD offers a declarative > approach to operating system configuration management and is highly > hackable. Guix uses low-level mechanisms from the Nix package > manager, except that packages are defined as native Guile modules, > using extensions to the Scheme language. > > GuixSD uses the Linux-Libre kernel and the GNU Shepherd init system. > It can be used on an i686, x86_64, armv7, or aarch64 machine. > > It is also possible to use Guix on top of an already installed > GNU/Linux system, including on armv7, aarch64, and mips64el. > > https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting: July 12th 2018 Topic: Open Forum Location: WPI campus Center room 301 (Hagglund)
by Keith Wright 09 Jul '18

09 Jul '18

Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > So is guix GNU Herd or some new GUI frontend? It's big news on the Guile Scheme mailing list. It's a package managment system. -- Keith From: ludo(a)gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) To: guix-devel(a)gnu.org, help-guix(a)gnu.org, gnu-system-discuss(a)gnu.org, info-gnu(a)gnu.org Subject: GNU Guix & GuixSD 0.15.0 released Cc: guile-user(a)gnu.org, nix-dev(a)lists.science.uu.nl We are pleased to announce the release of GNU Guix & GuixSD 0.15.0, representing 7,020 commits by 100 people over 7 months. This release brings us close to our goals for 1.0, so it’s probably one of the last zero-dot-something releases. • About GNU Guix is a transactional package manager for the GNU system. The Guix System Distribution, GuixSD, is an advanced distribution of the GNU system. In addition to standard package management features, Guix supports transactional upgrades and roll-backs, unprivileged package management, and per-user profiles. GuixSD offers a declarative approach to operating system configuration management and is highly hackable. Guix uses low-level mechanisms from the Nix package manager, except that packages are defined as native Guile modules, using extensions to the Scheme language. GuixSD uses the Linux-Libre kernel and the GNU Shepherd init system. It can be used on an i686, x86_64, armv7, or aarch64 machine. It is also possible to use Guix on top of an already installed GNU/Linux system, including on armv7, aarch64, and mips64el. https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/

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Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting: July 12th 2018 Topic: Open Forum Location: WPI campus Center room 301 (Hagglund)
by Tim Keller 09 Jul '18

09 Jul '18

So is guix GNU Herd or some new GUI frontend? On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > This could be an interesting topic for discussion, too: > https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/ > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 10:17 AM Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> > wrote: > >> Has anyone messed with Peertube? >> https://joinpeertube.org/en/home/ >> I don't remember if it's strictly Linux-related, but I heard about it on >> a Linux podcast and it sounds interesting. >> >> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 3:22 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey Gang, >>> >>> Our next meeting is July 12th, 2018. Currently there isn't a topic, so >>> I think I'm going to call this an open forum meeting. >>> >>> We'll definitely want to talk about when we want the BBQ. >>> >>> Personally, my vote is for Sept. Less bugs, cooler weather, etc. >>> Obviously if someone with a pool wants to pitch for August I can be >>> persuaded! >>> >>> Location: WPI Campus Center Rm 301 (Hagglund room) When you come up the >>> stairs go right instead of left. >>> >>> Refreshments and snacks will be provided. >>> >>> Afterwards we'll head off for dinner and keep up the conversation. >>> >>> Later, >>> Tim. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >>> constituents as "consumers". >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting: July 12th 2018 Topic: Open Forum Location: WPI campus Center room 301 (Hagglund)
by Richard Klein 09 Jul '18

09 Jul '18

This could be an interesting topic for discussion, too: https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/ On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 10:17 AM Richard Klein <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > Has anyone messed with Peertube? > https://joinpeertube.org/en/home/ > I don't remember if it's strictly Linux-related, but I heard about it on a > Linux podcast and it sounds interesting. > > On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 3:22 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey Gang, >> >> Our next meeting is July 12th, 2018. Currently there isn't a topic, so I >> think I'm going to call this an open forum meeting. >> >> We'll definitely want to talk about when we want the BBQ. >> >> Personally, my vote is for Sept. Less bugs, cooler weather, etc. >> Obviously if someone with a pool wants to pitch for August I can be >> persuaded! >> >> Location: WPI Campus Center Rm 301 (Hagglund room) When you come up the >> stairs go right instead of left. >> >> Refreshments and snacks will be provided. >> >> Afterwards we'll head off for dinner and keep up the conversation. >> >> Later, >> Tim. >> >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] Next Meeting: July 12th 2018 Topic: Open Forum Location: WPI campus Center room 301 (Hagglund)
by Richard Klein 09 Jul '18

09 Jul '18

Has anyone messed with Peertube? https://joinpeertube.org/en/home/ I don't remember if it's strictly Linux-related, but I heard about it on a Linux podcast and it sounds interesting. On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 3:22 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Our next meeting is July 12th, 2018. Currently there isn't a topic, so I > think I'm going to call this an open forum meeting. > > We'll definitely want to talk about when we want the BBQ. > > Personally, my vote is for Sept. Less bugs, cooler weather, etc. Obviously > if someone with a pool wants to pitch for August I can be persuaded! > > Location: WPI Campus Center Rm 301 (Hagglund room) When you come up the > stairs go right instead of left. > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided. > > Afterwards we'll head off for dinner and keep up the conversation. > > Later, > Tim. > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Next Meeting: July 12th 2018 Topic: Open Forum Location: WPI campus Center room 301 (Hagglund)
by Tim Keller 08 Jul '18

08 Jul '18

Hey Gang, Our next meeting is July 12th, 2018. Currently there isn't a topic, so I think I'm going to call this an open forum meeting. We'll definitely want to talk about when we want the BBQ. Personally, my vote is for Sept. Less bugs, cooler weather, etc. Obviously if someone with a pool wants to pitch for August I can be persuaded! Location: WPI Campus Center Rm 301 (Hagglund room) When you come up the stairs go right instead of left. Refreshments and snacks will be provided. Afterwards we'll head off for dinner and keep up the conversation. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] BBQ Question
by Richard Klein 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

I thought it already happened. Maybe I'm thinking of last year's BBQ? On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:43 AM Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: > THE HAMMER <hammerron(a)hotmail.com> writes: > > > I wasn't able to get to the last meeting so am > > wondering of there has been any talk of a WLUG BBQ? > > No. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [Wlug] BBQ Question
by Keith Wright 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

THE HAMMER <hammerron(a)hotmail.com> writes: > I wasn't able to get to the last meeting so am > wondering of there has been any talk of a WLUG BBQ? No.

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BBQ Question
by THE HAMMER 04 Jul '18

04 Jul '18

I wasn't able to get to the last meeting so am wondering of there has been any talk of a WLUG BBQ? Ron

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