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In regards to the 50% discount for lugs...
by Keller, Tim April 20, 2001

April 20, 2001

Would nine other people be interested in buying a copy of Tribes 2? I might just accidentally setup a tribes server out in our DMZ :-) Tim.

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Cable modem/lilo
by William Hine April 19, 2001

April 19, 2001

The version of SUSE linux I was running seemed to give me a problem with DHCP. Ive yet to figure out what it is, and cable modems should be simple to setup. Anyways I installed mandrake 8.0 beta 3. The installation utility is great. I booted in the system for the first time and was able to use my modem. Thanx for the reccomendation. I was wondering if anyone can help me with lilo. When I boot my machine it only displays LI. I seem to remember this having to do something with the drive geometry. Any Ideas? I also installed grub which when I boot just displays GRUB. What could be wrong? TIA Bill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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Need input re: developers tools
by Andy Stewart April 19, 2001

April 19, 2001

HI gang, I am starting to write up the last 1/3 of my presentation to the Delphi Developers group, and its the section on developer tools and utilities. I'd like some input from you folks as to what I should include in this section. Emacs - the original "IDE" (???) gdb for debugging (nicer with DDD front end, IMHO) make and Makefiles gcc What else do "real" Linux developers use? Maybe I'm suffering a brain cramp this evening, but your input will help. Also, are there any tools or compilers for Pascal? Remember, the Delphi folks understand Pascal, and I'm sure they will ask this question. (It has been 20 years since I programmed anything in Pascal...). Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | Osborn's Law: Variables won't; constants Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | aren't. Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | http://www.wlug.org |

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[Fwd: Your 4/19 LUG meeting]
by Andy Stewart April 19, 2001

April 19, 2001

HI gang, Would somebody who attends the WLUG meeting on Thursday be willing to write up something which can be posted on LWN, LinuxToday, and LinuxUsersGroups.org? Kara has asked, and I told her that we'd come up with something. Thanks in advance, Andy -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Your 4/19 LUG meeting Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:24:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Kara Pritchard <kara(a)luci.org> To: <andystewart(a)mediaone.net> Hi Andy, Looks like you have a fun evening planned for your next LUG meeting. I'd be interested if you (or someone in your group) would do a write-up about the special meeting, or perhaps an interview. I'll host it at LinuxUsersGroups.org and have it posted to LWN and LinuxToday. It'll be a good opportunity both for your group and for Ziegler's book. -- Kara Pritchard Phone: 618-398-7360 Author, RHCE Exam Cram Director of Exam Development http://www.lpi.org/ Site Manager http://www.LinuxUsersGroups.org/ --

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Re: [Wlug] max memory?
by ccb＠acm.org April 18, 2001

April 18, 2001

> > Is linux limited to 4GB memory? > > Nope, not 2.4 anyways. I don't remember the limit, but it's a big > number. ;-) > > > I have inherited some boxes with 5GB each and I'm planning on loading linux. Some things to remember - if these are x86 architecture boxes, you still have a 3GB per process user space limit. Even with 64GB of RAM, no single process can see more than 4GB and the top 1GB of that is mapped as kernel space. Big memory means that you get to have lots of large virtual address spaces that can remain mapped in physical RAM. For virtual address spaces with wider than 32-bit addresses, you need 64-bit processors. ccb -- Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com

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Red Hat Linux 7.1
by Charles R. Anderson April 17, 2001

April 17, 2001

Red Hat 7.1, based on the Linux 2.4 kernel, is out as of 10:00am this morning. I have a mirror of i386 disc1 and disc2 ISO's and the full FTP install tree if anyone wants it. FTP install/upgrade boot image: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.1/en/os/i386/images/boot… Server: angus.ind.wpi.edu Directory: /pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.1/en/os/i386 ISO download: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.1/en/iso/i386 Have fun! Charles R. Anderson cra(a)wpi.edu Network Engineer (508) 831-6110 Computing and Communications Center (508) 831-5115 Worcester Polytechnic Institute Fax (508) 831-5483

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Re: [Wlug] Need input re: developers tools
by Doug Chamberlin April 17, 2001

April 17, 2001

At 4/16/2001 11:50 AM (Monday), Scott Venier wrote: >You might also want to mention codewarrior. http://www.metrowerks.com >Nice and pretty for those folks who grew up developing on macos or >windows. You might keep in mind that the Delphi Developers Group is made up of developers who are 99% likely to use Kylix for development. Therefore, they won't be much interested in alternative development environments. However, they WILL be interested in auxiliary tools which are considered essential to managing applications on Linux not matter what the original language the app is written in. I would put the rpm and other packaging/installing tools in this category. P.S. I think Kylix includes a debugger. If it is as good as the one Borland has for the Win32 platform then it is all these developers will be using.

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max memory?
by Bill Mills-Curran April 16, 2001

April 16, 2001

Is linux limited to 4GB memory? I have inherited some boxes with 5GB each and I'm planning on loading linux. Thanks, Bill

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RE: [Wlug] max memory?
by Keller, Tim April 16, 2001

April 16, 2001

Nope, the new kernel will work with 64gb, you just have to go under "Processor type and features" and change the settings for High Memory Support. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Mills-Curran [mailto:bcurran@clariion.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 11:54 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] max memory? Is linux limited to 4GB memory? I have inherited some boxes with 5GB each and I'm planning on loading linux. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Is WMF a proprietary format?
by Andy Stewart April 16, 2001

April 16, 2001

If not, are there tools to convert it into something viewable on a Linux box? There are viewers available for Solaris, but not Linux. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | "Why is it that we rejoice at a birth and Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | grieve at a funeral? It is because we Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | are not the person involved" -- Mark http://www.wlug.org | Twain

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Re: Verizon DSL questions
by cc.noyes April 14, 2001

April 14, 2001

LRP 3.1.0. You need to browse the various kernel images at www.linuxrouter.org to find the one that most closely matches your environment. You'll probably want an image that has a pppoe (if you're using Verizon DSL), ipchains, DHCP, caching DNS, etc. You can download it along with the modules for your ethernet cards. Since this is a router, you'll need at least 2 ethernet cards; one for the "WAN" side (DSL connection) and one for your local (LAN) network. I use my LRP box as a gateway/router and a firewall (running ipchains). My Verizon DSL "modem" is connected to the LRP box via one of the ethernet cards and the other ethernet card in the LRP box is connected to a hub in my house. All of the PCs in the house are also connected to the hub. I configured a private class C ethernet network in my house and all the PC's have a 192.168.x.y address, including the LAN interface of the LRP box. The WAN side gets it IP address from Verizon via DHCP. These addresses get "spoofed" via IPMASQ to the outside world. The whole set-up works great. You can get other modules to load from the floppy, but remember everything has to fit on a floppy. One neat trick is the ability to format a floppy to hold more than 1.4 MB. I don't recall if it's the fdformat command or something else (I'm sure someone on this list can supply the details.....it's been a while, and I don't remember), but you can format a floppy so it will hold 1.6 MB (maybe more) and Linux has no trouble booting from it. The neat thing is that you can use an old "clunker" PC that you may have lying around for the LRP box. You don't even need a hard drive, and it's recommended that you DON'T use a hard drive (secruity reasons...remember this box is exposed to the outside world). I don't even have a monitor or keyboard connected to the LRP box. It just runs and runs and runs.... Step through the LRP configuration, write-protect the floppy, and you're in business.... I hope this helps..... -Chuck Randall Hofland wrote: > That was more like a whole nickel. Which version of LRP? Are you running just the > router or do you have some of the other goodies like the firewall, etc.? And the big > question: is it possible to run multiple floppies to add services? > > I've actually been planning on using OpenBSD either on one of my 68K Macs or on a > Pentium/K6 box for my front end, but if I can get the LRP to work with a couple of > floppies, that would do as well. But I am still waiting for any version of "broadband" > so I can hook up my various clusters to the web. > > "cc.noyes" wrote: > > > I've had Verizon's ADSL service (the "cheapo" $39.95 service) since December and > > it's been solid. I have no complaints. I use an old PC running LRP (Linux Router > > Project, see www.linuxrouter.org) The LRP boots from a single floppy (I removed > > the hard drive). The LRP uses Ragin Penguin's pppoe. It's simple to install and > > set up. > > > > Verizon has NO clue about anything other than Win98. So they were no help to me. > > I installed their h/w and my own LRP box, but it was no big deal. I've never had > > to call fo support, so I don't know how good they are, but...they only want to deal > > with systems runing Win98. > > > > Just my $.02..... > > > > -Chuck > > > > Mark Caron wrote: > > > > > I'm considering DSL for myself at home. I've already checked out the Verizon > > > site and I am about 6,000 ft or so away from the c.o., so I'm ok on that front. > > > I am wondering if there's anything new regarding Verizon DSL in regards to > > > Linux. How Linux friendly are they these days? I know from reading their > > > website that I'm probably on my own for supporting linux on their DSL, but > > > that's ok I figured that. Any problems or other considerations I should be > > > looking into? Besides buying a DSL/cable modem router, that's already on the > > > 'to buy' list. I know it's about a 3 week wait I believe for the setup date. > > > Also a friend of mine in NYC just got hers 2 weeks ago, and had to go through a > > > setup program on her windows box. Is this just setting up pppoe? Or does it > > > also setup the DSL modem? Am I correct in thinking that it's just the pppoe and > > > I can just setup my linux box with pppoe and setup the DSL router and be done > > > with it. Or should I just plug in my win95 harddrive and let the setup program > > > setup the DSL modem then fire up linux and finish setting up linux and the DSL > > > router? > > > > > > Thanks for any advice. > > > > > > Mark > > > - > > > Subcription/unsubscription/info requests: send e-mail with > > > "subscribe", "unsubscribe", or "info" on the first line of the > > > message body to discuss-request(a)blu.org (Subject line is ignored). > > > > - > > Subcription/unsubscription/info requests: send e-mail with > > "subscribe", "unsubscribe", or "info" on the first line of the > > message body to discuss-request(a)blu.org (Subject line is ignored).

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REMINDER: Upcoming Linux events
by Andy Stewart April 13, 2001

April 13, 2001

HI everybody, Here's a quick reminder about upcoming events. ================================== Wednesday, April 18th: Richard Stallman will be speaking at Holy Cross in Worcester Location: 112 O'Neill Hall Time: 3:30 PM - 5:30 PM Here's a map of the campus: http://www.holycross.edu/about/camp_mapbw.html ================================== Thursday, April 19th: WLUG meeting Location: Kinnicutt Hall, WPI in Worcester Time: 7:00 PM Speaker: Bob Ziegler, Linux Firewalls ================================== Monday, April 23rd: Delphi Developers' Group Meeting Location: Allaire Corporation, Newton, MA Time: starts at 7:00 PM (be there earlier to setup) Directions to this meeting can be found here: http://www.discom.com/delphi/ I will be giving a presentation to this group (details can be found at the "Meetings" link on the Delphi website). A group of WLUG volunteers will be on hand to demonstrate Linux software. One person who had volunteered to help at the Delphi Developers group has had to drop out, so I am looking for 1 or perhaps 2 more volunteers who'd like to come to this meeting to help out with demos of Linux on their own hardware. Please get back to me ASAP. Thanks! ================================== Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | "I have the world's largest collection of Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | seashells. I keep it scattered around Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | the beaches of the world ... Perhaps http://www.wlug.org | you've seen it. -- Steven Wright

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Cable Modem Charter.net
by William Hine April 12, 2001

April 12, 2001

Hi, I was wondering if someone can help me configure a cale modem to use in linux. I am on charters network. I have tried myself but it is not working. I setup my ethernet card eth0 this seems to have taken because I can ping localhost. However I cannot ping past it. TIA, Bill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Lexmark z52
by Doctor Orbitz April 12, 2001

April 12, 2001

Has anyone here setup a Lexmark z52 printer in linux? I am having alot of trouble. I set it up according to how I think the documentation tells me to but my printer just gets a post script file, which it obviously doesn't understand. Tech support refuses to help me saying that because I am using Slackware it isn't supported. But Linux is Linux right? Thanks, Orbitz

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Mainsoft's MainWin Brings Windows Apps To Linux, Unix
by Bob Brown April 10, 2001

April 10, 2001

A cross platform compiler for Linux from Windows... http://www.crn.com/components/Nl/direct/article.asp?ArticleID=25599 Regards, Bob

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RE: [Wlug] Firewalls
by Dibb, Jim April 9, 2001

April 9, 2001

Upgrade to 1.38.4 firmware, I've found it to work the best. It's beta firmware, I got it from the Linksys forum on dslreports.com. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark%2c651534%3broot=equip%2c16%3bmode=fla t That forum is an excellent resource for the Linksys hardware. I've never used it, but I'm sure there is a way to set up logging by the router to a file on one of your machines. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Long [mailto:michaellong@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 12:14 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Firewalls Your suggestion of an appliance was a magnificent one. I bought a Linksys router and had it running in a very short period of time. Now for the $64 question...how do I monitor my network to minimize the chance of attack or at least know when my system has been compromised? -mike On Wednesday 04 April 2001 00:09, you wrote: > > After spending many hours this past week trying to understand ipchains > > and firewalling in general I have come to the conclusion that I am > > spending a lot of time trying to recreate something that probably already > > exists. Does anyone have any experience with either open source or > > commercial firewalling products that can be configured to work in a small > > office network and allow VPN connections to larger networks. I do not > > have a very big budget but would be willing to pay for the appropriate > > solution. > > > > Mike > > Might I suggest an appliance? D-Link, SMC, NetGear and LinkSys all > have them for just a hair over $100 provided you're sitting on a Cable > or DSL connection. My SMC is web managable and does a lovely job. > It also has a COM port so I can use it with dial-up networks if I > have to. IPCHAINS/IPTABLES is cool, but you need to patch for IPSEC > support in 2.2.x kernels. > > ccb > > > -- > Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems > Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 > +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 > ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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just a bit-o-fun
by Terry Yelmene April 8, 2001

April 8, 2001

A year ago last Thursday I was strolling in the zoo When I met a man Who thought he knew the lot. He was laying down the law About the habits of baboons And the number of quills a porcupine has got So I asked him "what's that creature there?" He answered, "Ooh, It's a h'elk" I might have gone on thinking that was true If the animal in question hadn't Put that chap to shame and said "I hain't a h'elk" I'm a Gnu I'm a Gnu I'm a Gnu How do you do? You really ought to k-now w-who's who I'm a Gnu Spelled G-N-U I'm g-not a camel or a kangaroo So let me introduce I'm g-neither man or moose Oh G-no, G-no, G-no I'm a Gnu I had taken furnished lodgings down at Rustington-on-Sea Whence I travelled on to Ashton-under-Lyme And the second night I stayed there I was wakened from a dream Which I'll tell you all about some other time. Among the hunting trophies on the wall above my head Stuffed and mounted was a face I thought I knew; A bison, no it's not a bison An okapi, I don't think it's an okapi Could it be a hartebeest? When I seemed to hear a voice I'm a Gnu I'm a Gnu A g-nother Gnu I wish I could g-nash my teeth at you I'm a Gnu How do you do? You really ought to k-now w-who's who I'm a Gnu Spelled G-N-U Call me bison or okapi and I'll sue G-nor am I in the least like that dreadful hartebeest Oh G-No G-No G-No I'm a Gnu! **************** The source for this definitely wants to remain anonymous- but... I had to share it with you cause, now I@m a Gnu Too! ...(just between us Gnus & Penguins)

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Re: [Wlug] Firewalls
by ccb＠acm.org April 8, 2001

April 8, 2001

> After spending many hours this past week trying to understand ipchains and > firewalling in general I have come to the conclusion that I am spending a lot > of time trying to recreate something that probably already exists. Does > anyone have any experience with either open source or commercial firewalling > products that can be configured to work in a small office network and allow > VPN connections to larger networks. I do not have a very big budget but would > be willing to pay for the appropriate solution. > > Mike Might I suggest an appliance? D-Link, SMC, NetGear and LinkSys all have them for just a hair over $100 provided you're sitting on a Cable or DSL connection. My SMC is web managable and does a lovely job. It also has a COM port so I can use it with dial-up networks if I have to. IPCHAINS/IPTABLES is cool, but you need to patch for IPSEC support in 2.2.x kernels. ccb -- Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com

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[Fwd: LOCAL: Worcester (MA, USA) Linux Users' Group meeting]
by Andy Stewart April 8, 2001

April 8, 2001

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: LOCAL: Worcester (MA, USA) Linux Users' Group meeting Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:27:40 GMT From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)mediaone.net> Organization: Worcester Linux Users' Group Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce Followup-To: comp.os.linux.misc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- HI everyone, The next meeting of the Worcester (MA, USA) Linux Users' Group will take place on Thursday, April 19th, at 7:00 PM. The meeting location is at WPI's Kinnicutt Hall in Worcester, MA. Directions can be found on the WLUG website: http://www.wlug.org The speaker at this meeting will be Bob Ziegler. Bob is the author of "Linux Firewalls", published by New Riders. Bob will address firewall related topics including: o What is contained in the IP, TCP, and UDP packet headers o A description of classic attacks o Basic things to be filtered The goal will be that someone should leave the meeting with an understanding of what a firewall can do and why you want one. More meeting information can be found on the WLUG website. This promises to be a really informative meeting! As always, WLUG meetings are open to the public. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity for Q/A, and then a couple of Linux related items will be raffled. Small donations of $2 - $5 are happily accepted (but not required) to help defray the cost of the refreshments at the meeting. After the meeting, you are welcome to join us at the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. I'm looking forward to seeing alot of people at this meeting. See ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | "I was playing poker the other night ... Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | with Tarot cards. I got a full house and Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | four people died." -- Steven Wright http://www.wlug.org | - -- This article has been digitally signed by the moderator, using PGP. http://www.iki.fi/mjr/cola-public-key.asc has PGP key for validating signature. Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce(a)news.ornl.gov PLEASE remember a short description of the software and the LOCATION. This group is archived at http://www.iki.fi/mjr/linux/cola.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBOs4mvFrUI/eHXJZ5AQEhyQQAvvbtDWXY5iW6/m4kDYPjk4VuHLY/l276 JMz+9HA7MWTEwhK8i44lgN+Rt8+fV27TrAmOsT7kmrQGN+ckPMzzzjBraW9Xnp8p BBKYDZOOg0YonWYdZPBailYRPUgPwTT6ujiay9dQ7uR65rCUvG3UWRKrRmZDYqPJ X0NMd/kezk8= =rJuG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: fwd: [Wlug] Filtering attachments via a Sendmail ruleset?
by Paul Lussier April 6, 2001

April 6, 2001

In a message dated: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 15:48:11 EDT Jeffry Smith said: >OK, I know we do something to "defang" stuff, could I / you pass what it >is on to this list, to answer this question? > >jeff >------- Forwarded Message > >From: "Dave Coutu" <cout(a)alum.wpi.edu> >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:10:10 -0700 >Subject: [Wlug] Filtering attachments via a Sendmail ruleset? > >Hey Guys, > > Really simple question here... A while back I had asked whether = >sendmail could filter out mail based on a subject header , and found out = >that it could. Now I have a situation here at work where we want to = >filter out attachments, the obvious being .vbs, .exe, basically anything = >that may contain a virus. We don't run anti-virus software on the mail = >server that mail is being delivered to, nor on the sendmail relays = >feeding into it, since they are Solaris boxes and we currently don't = >have a unix version of Norton lying about. But I believe that we can = >filter out attachments through a sendmail ruleset, and I am wondering if = >this is the case. If so, can someone tell me how/where to do it please? = > Would be very appreciative for any help here! Thanks in advance! What we do here is use procmail on our local, internal mail server. There's a great filtering set of procmail rules for this located at: http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html As long as you have procmail installed and sendmail is configured to use procmail, just drop this stuff in place and you'll instantly start filtering stuff based on content and/or extension. There's a lot of configuration and customization you can do with this thing, and we've found that it works fantastic. We've intercepted the "AnnaKournikova" virus many, many times since it's initial release, and I can't even count the number of other virii I've seen trapped since we installed this. HTH, Seeya, Paul -- Paul Lussier Chairman, Nashua Chapter, GNHLUG Senior Systems and Network Engineer Mission Critical Linux, Inc.

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Filtering attachments via a Sendmail ruleset?
by Dave Coutu April 5, 2001

April 5, 2001

Hey Guys, Really simple question here... A while back I had asked whether sendmail could filter out mail based on a subject header , and found out that it could. Now I have a situation here at work where we want to filter out attachments, the obvious being .vbs, .exe, basically anything that may contain a virus. We don't run anti-virus software on the mail server that mail is being delivered to, nor on the sendmail relays feeding into it, since they are Solaris boxes and we currently don't have a unix version of Norton lying about. But I believe that we can filter out attachments through a sendmail ruleset, and I am wondering if this is the case. If so, can someone tell me how/where to do it please? Would be very appreciative for any help here! Thanks in advance! Dave

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Volunteers needed!
by Andy Stewart April 5, 2001

April 5, 2001

HI gang, I have been asked to be the guest speaker at the Delphi Developers Group meeting in Newton, MA on Monday, April 23rd (http://www.discom.com/delphi) They are interested in Linux due to the recent product announcement of Borland Kylix (http://www.borland.com/kylix) These folks are a group of software developers living in the Windows world. I had planned to prepare a 45 - 60 minute talk, Q/A, and then demonstrate some apps for them, such as: StarOffice Netscape Developer tools and utilities VmWare LILO Desktops - KDE, Gnome, enlightenment, etc. Installation of Linux The above list was suggested to me by their representative as a list of things that would be interesting to their developers group. I am seeking 2 or 3 people would like to volunteer to demo some of these tools at the meeting, and who can provide support for the questions which I can't answer. I'm looking for folks with systems or laptops that they are willing to bring to this meeting for the demos. I would also appreciate a volunteer or two who would be willing to critique my presentation slides before the meeting. You would not need to actually attend the meeting. I'd e-mail the slides to you and request your written feedback. The Delphi group representative will also get a sneak preview. If you are interested in either of these opportunities, please contact me this week if at all possible. Thanks in advance! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | Harris's Lament: All the good ones are Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | taken. Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | http://www.wlug.org |

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RE: [Wlug] Friendly ISP in Worcester
by Keller, Tim April 4, 2001

April 4, 2001

Well, I'm only on dialup and I've been using Erols (Its actually RCN) and I've had extremely good luck with them. Like everything, your mileage may very... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Rodrigo Gomes [mailto:gomes_k@dr.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:18 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Friendly ISP in Worcester I would like to know names and url of lnx friendly ISP's in Worcester area. Thanks in advance. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Friendly ISP in Worcester
by Richard H Fox April 4, 2001

April 4, 2001

I've used AT&T Worldnet with great success - much faster than other dialups... yes, the big mega-ISP but with Linux loving employees who I've spoken with for server / network related issues... how Linux friendly is AT&T??? Visit: http://www.wurd.com/eng/setup/dialers/index.htm There's other Linux stuff on the AT&T WURD site ( http://www.wurd.com ) - but I think this is what you are looking for... OH! if you want to sign up for a Linux account use this method: https://registration.att.net/cgi-bin/inregister Hit the CONTINUE REGISTRATION button - the nine-character Registration Code is not needed... The only way to avoid downloading the Wintel or MAC dialer to setup an AT&T account is through this page... and AT&T customer (tech) support forwarded me a Linux guy (Debian his preference though he runs Mandrake on one of his machines) who gave me the link, only available by direct reference... Best... Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rodrigo Gomes" <gomes_k(a)dr.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: [Wlug] Friendly ISP in Worcester I would like to know names and url of lnx friendly ISP's in Worcester area. Thanks in advance. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Friendly ISP in Worcester
by Rodrigo Gomes April 4, 2001

April 4, 2001

I would like to know names and url of lnx friendly ISP's in Worcester area. Thanks in advance. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup

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