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Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings - topic proposals
by Thomas Carey May 7, 2001

May 7, 2001

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Re: Fwd: Re: [Wlug] Lp0 issues
by Wesley Allen May 5, 2001

May 5, 2001

Sorry, I though mandrake was mentioned earlier in the thread. It is mandrake 7.2 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Keith Wright <kwright(a)gis.net> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:17:32 -0400 >> From: "Wesley Allen" <wallen(a)mail.lexchristian.org> >> >> Go up to 7.2, > >Of what? Redhat? Too high a number, I think. > >I did my homework, looking through all old messages in this thread >and found only > >> I have been making myself at home in KDE 1.1.2 under Linux 2.2.15-4mdk > >but there's no Linux kernel 7.2, nor I think KDE. > >-- > -- Keith Wright <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com> > >Programmer in Chief, Free Computer Shop <http://www.free-comp-shop.com> > --- Food, Shelter, Source code. --- >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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lp0 continued
by gwlt＠ma.ultranet.com May 4, 2001

May 4, 2001

Andy, Mike, Wesley, Jeff, et. al, thanks for helping me out on this. So here is where I stand, I have discovered a backlog of queued docs and deleted them, but I am getting Device or resource busy when I try to insmod the two missing pieces from lsmod. Here is what I tried: parport_probe and parport are present in lsmod; lp and parport_pc are missing /lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/misc/ lp.o and parport_pc.o are present when I go to... [root@localhost misc]# insmod parport_pc I get Using parport_pc.o /lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/misc/parport_pc.o: init_module: Device or resource busy and the same for lp.o Using lp.o /lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/misc/lp.o: init_module: Device or resource busy So I am missing elements in lsmod, and there is something holding me back from using insmod. Then I: lpq -P lp0 (and get) Waiting for lp0 to become ready (offline ?) Rank Owner Job Files 1st root 9 ... I try to clear this with lprm - -Plp0 dfA009localhost.localdomain dequeued cfA009localhost.localdomain dequeued The when I: lpq -P lp0 no entries I return to try to insmod lp and still get Using /lin/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/misc/lp.o /lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/misc/lp.o: init_module: Device or resource busy So what now? Thanks a lot for keeping me going on this. Colin

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Re: Fwd: Re: [Wlug] Lp0 issues
by Wesley Allen May 4, 2001

May 4, 2001

Go up to 7.2, it's x-configuration has been painless for me on: An HP Pavillion 4450 A Compaq Deskpro 3 old Pentium NOTEBOOKS (All compaq) 1 Custom-built web server 1 HP NetServer (I forget the model) 1 Dell 4800 notebook As you can see, there is great x-support in 7.2, it was really mature, 8.0 is even nicer, but if you're on older hardware don't bother becasue you'll take a HUGE performance hit (KDE 2.1 and Nautilus are memory suckers, maybe with a lightweight window manager you'll be ok though..) Wes ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: gwlt(a)ma.ultranet.com Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 15:22:12 GMT >All right, > > Thank you for the assistance all. It has been helpful. > I took Andy & Jeff's lead to check the Kernel and sure enough there is >no such device. >Is my best bet to try to load a newer version? I am less afraid of this >prospect after fighting my way through X problems in 6.0 before going to >7.1. > Any words to the wise before embarking on this adventure? Up until now I >have used off the shelf disks to get the job done. How much more >treacherous is trying to grab stuff on-line? > >COLIN > >> Basic stuff: if you cannot cat a file to /dev/lp0, then you probably >have >> a kernel related problem. That will need to be fixed first. Jeff's >> earlier e-mail explains in brief how to do this. > >> Try something like this: > >> cat/.cshrc > /dev/lp0 > >> OK, once that works, you know that the kernel is OK. > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Cheap Servlet Hosting
by Sands Fish May 4, 2001

May 4, 2001

Hey all, Just a quickie. Anyone know of any good hosting providers that support running servlets? Maybe something not too expensive, although that's not bloody likely. Thanx! -Sands

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FYI: Update on USENIX Conferences (68152)
by Andy Stewart May 4, 2001

May 4, 2001

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Update on USENIX Conferences (68152) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 01:09:58 -0700 (PDT) From: enotify(a)usenix.org To: astewart(a)world.std.com The USENIX Annual Technical Conference June 25-30, 2001 in Boston, MA http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix01 REGISTER BY May 25, 2001, and SAVE up to $200! ================================================ Featuring THIRTY TUTORIALS, seventeen brand-new. Topics include: Running Web Servers Securely Advanced Solaris Administration Network Security Profiles UNIX Network Programming Network Programming with Perl Forensic Computer Investigations Large Heterogeneous Networks Inside the Linux Kernel Practical Wireless IP Security Exploring the Potential of LDAP Advanced Topics in Perl Programming Topics for System Administrators Wireless Networking Fundamentals UNIX Network Programming Topics Plus INVITED TALKS on WAP, IP wireless networking, Napster and Gnutella, E-voting in public elections, virtual machines, online privacy, active content, protocol design history and hazards, a Microsoft acquisition, and secure DNS. *KEYNOTE ADDRESS by Daniel D. Frye, Director, IBM Linux Technology Center *CLOSING SESSION by Cynthia Breazeal, Researcher, MIT Media Lab, and her robot Kismet. * FREENIX track dedicated to open source *VENDOR EXHIBITION featuring top companies, technology and information For more information and to register, visit: http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix01 -------------------------------------------------------- PAPER SUBMISSIONS DEADLINES: FAST: Conference on File and Storage Technologies January 28-29, 2002, in Monterey, CA. http://www.usenix.org/events/fast/ Please submit abstracts by July 13, 2001 ALS: 5th Annual Linux Showcase & Conference November 6-10, 2001, in Oakland, CA http://www.linuxshowcase.org Please submit abstracts by June 5, 2001. LISA: 15th Systems Administration Conference December 2-7, 2001, in San Diego, CA http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa2001 Please submit abstracts by June 5, 2001. ****************************************************************** If you do NOT want to receive email announcements about USENIX Association activities, please reply to this message, and you will not receive future email notices. ****************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Fwd: Re: [Wlug] Lp0 issues
by gwlt＠ma.ultranet.com May 4, 2001

May 4, 2001

All right, Thank you for the assistance all. It has been helpful. I took Andy & Jeff's lead to check the Kernel and sure enough there is no such device. Is my best bet to try to load a newer version? I am less afraid of this prospect after fighting my way through X problems in 6.0 before going to 7.1. Any words to the wise before embarking on this adventure? Up until now I have used off the shelf disks to get the job done. How much more treacherous is trying to grab stuff on-line? COLIN > Basic stuff: if you cannot cat a file to /dev/lp0, then you probably have > a kernel related problem. That will need to be fixed first. Jeff's > earlier e-mail explains in brief how to do this. > Try something like this: > cat/.cshrc > /dev/lp0 > OK, once that works, you know that the kernel is OK.

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Lp0 issues
by gwlt＠ma.ultranet.com May 2, 2001

May 2, 2001

I have been making myself at home in KDE 1.1.2 under Linux 2.2.15-4mdk and have managed to slowly get most functionality off of the old Windows half of the dual boot drive. There is one major impediment to moving over entirely: I cannot print. I have an Epson Stylus Color 660, and can not make it work, reconfigure and test as I try. If I am not mistaken the system is using a ghostwriter filter that generically addresses Epson Stylus Color printers (I have tried all sorts of earlier drivers and generic options within this.) When you go to the setup and configuration there is no auto detect of the printer and type, You must manually chose it, and when you try any form of a test print you get: "Waiting for lp0 to become ready (offline?)" If you try to test print from RHLinux Print System Manager ASCII directly you get: "Couldn't write file "dev/lp0": no such device" When I try to print from an app. I get: "lpr: lp: lp: unknown printer" If you can spare a few seconds I would be thoroughly grateful for your thoughts.

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RE: [Wlug] SCSI HD Boot Failure! BLA!
by Keller, Tim April 30, 2001

April 30, 2001

That'll probably be really tough, since it won't even boot for the first time... What you could try is using a boot diskette to get the machine up and running, then compile a custom kernel that has support for the scsi card compiled in (not as a module) The kernel that the installer uses has -everything- compiled in so it'll work on a maximum number of systems, however, the kernel it installs on your machine does not. Hope that helps! Tim Keller -----Original Message----- From: Ben Dow [mailto:bdow@WPI.EDU] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 5:30 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] SCSI HD Boot Failure! BLA! Try compiling scsi support into your kernel, or using a different precompiled kernel if you're not into compiling your own. You probably had scsi support in the installation kernel but not the one it installs to boot from by default. On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Sands Fish wrote: > Hello again all, > I've just recently started putting together a Mandrake 8.0 box. (About > 3 hours ago, yes in the middle of the night.) For a hard drive, I have an > IBM SCSI Drive on an Adaptec 2940-U2 card. When I ran the install, it found > the card and the drive automagically. I was impressed and happy. Went > through the installation fine, copied all the files. But as soon as I > rebooted to run it for the first time, I get the LILO graphical screen, I > choose one of the options (any), and get the following error... > > request_module[block-major-8]: Root fs not mounted > VFS: Cannot open root device "801" or 08:01 > Please append a correct "root=" boot option > Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01 > > Just some more information. The HD is on SCSI ID #6. The controller is on > #7. The SCSI BIOS sees the drive because I can see it report it on boot. > When I watch the boot messages fly by for Linux, I see no reference to any > sd# devices at all. > > I'm really completely lost here. Would changing the SCSI ID # help? That > doesn't seem to be likely. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > Thanx a lot guys/grrls!! > > - - s a n d s - - > SandsFish(a)ArtKillsYuppieBabies.com > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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ipchains flush
by Richard Goodman April 28, 2001

April 28, 2001

I'm running three dual-homed RedHat 7.0 boxes on separate DSL or cable, each doing IP Masquerading to private networks. I'm attempting to do some more serious firewalling, and am trying to debug problems in a rc.firewall script generated from Bob Ziegler's site. I've noticed that when I swap between Bob's 600+ line script and Rusty's Three-Line Guide to Masquerading (IPCHAINS How-To) , each modified to start with "ipchains -F" which should flush all existing rules, that the flush isn't happening. I'm switching by doing "sh <scriptname>" after having made both scripts executable. If I reboot Linux after changing which script is referenced in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, then everything is clean. Any ideas? Dick -- ------------------------------------------------- Richard Goodman dick(a)goodman1.net ---> Home: (508) 753-DICK trader(a)goodman1.net ---> Work: (508) 757-3452 voice/fax

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Ximian Gnome on Debian
by Orion April 28, 2001

April 28, 2001

Just in case anyone here uses Debian and is thinking of installing Ximian1.4, the directions that say to apt-get install task-helix-gnome are wrong. I've gone and made some task packages based on what helix/ximian used to have for its previous release. Just add this to your sources.list and you can use them: deb http://zork.net/~orion potato main (or s/potato/unstable/ of you prefer) also, if you need a deb-src line for ximian, until they fix it (IF they fix it) you need to use this instead of what they say: deb-src http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian/ dists/potato/main/sources/ (again, s/potato/woody/ if you wish) -- Orion orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org "so did you eat the dog or walk it? ;)" - iain

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SCSI HD Boot Failure! BLA!
by Sands Fish April 28, 2001

April 28, 2001

Hello again all, I've just recently started putting together a Mandrake 8.0 box. (About 3 hours ago, yes in the middle of the night.) For a hard drive, I have an IBM SCSI Drive on an Adaptec 2940-U2 card. When I ran the install, it found the card and the drive automagically. I was impressed and happy. Went through the installation fine, copied all the files. But as soon as I rebooted to run it for the first time, I get the LILO graphical screen, I choose one of the options (any), and get the following error... request_module[block-major-8]: Root fs not mounted VFS: Cannot open root device "801" or 08:01 Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01 Just some more information. The HD is on SCSI ID #6. The controller is on #7. The SCSI BIOS sees the drive because I can see it report it on boot. When I watch the boot messages fly by for Linux, I see no reference to any sd# devices at all. I'm really completely lost here. Would changing the SCSI ID # help? That doesn't seem to be likely. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanx a lot guys/grrls!! - - s a n d s - - SandsFish(a)ArtKillsYuppieBabies.com

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Tribes 2 and SMAC?
by Wesley T Allen April 26, 2001

April 26, 2001

I got a posting in the mailing list about getting the LUG rate for Tribes 2 and SMAC, I am VERY interested in this; but I've not heard anything since the origional message went out. Are people still thinking about this?? On an unrelated note, Loki's online store is down and Tribes 2 is shipping NOW. I hope this a good sign that they're getting so many orders that it crashed their site. Being forward thinking, they have a fax number posted for an alternate ordering method. Way to go Loki! Wes

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TCP Port Open
by Marc Hughes April 24, 2001

April 24, 2001

Hello, How can you determine what process has a tcp port open? Thanks! -Marc

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kde problem
by doug waud April 24, 2001

April 24, 2001

Hi all I have a Toshiba Satellite notebook running SuSE 7.0 (personal edition) with kde as the window manager. For reasons unknown (to me at least) I can no longer click on an icon, for example, the shell icon, on the Kpanel and get a response. Also, the icons on the desktop, netscape and soffice, for example, have disappeared. Finally, if I click on the K menu button I can navigate out to the various programs, but again nothing responds. I can however, hit Alt/F2, get a command window, type in netscape, xterm or soffice, and the respective application comes up! I have searched the web and found no hints as to what might be going on. I happen to have the Que "Practical KDE" by Dennis Powell where, on page 46, under "Troubleshooting" there is a section "KDE starts but Applications won't". He suggests a chmod 1777 /tmp which I tried (and got drwxrwxrwt which says I didn't hit a typo) but the problem remained. I also tried chmod -RV 1777 /tmp to recursively chmod (I found several subdirectories in /tmp) but again without success. :-( The KDE version is 1.1.2 according to the SuSE box. The kernel is 2.2.12 (but, that, I suspect, is irrelevant). So, my specific question is "has anyone out there seen this and/or knows the solution/fix?". If not, a broader question is "what would you try next?" (without blowing away everything and reinstalling linux :-) --- this same SuSE/KDE works fine on a Dell desktop box). As you might gather, I have reached the point where I am open to suggestions of any kind :-) doug

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RE: [Wlug] VAX/VMS
by Evans, Robert April 23, 2001

April 23, 2001

At this link you can get it from the source: http://www.openvms.compaq.com/ Then try going to OpenVMS Documentation where you can find: OpenVMS Guide to System Security -Robert N. Evans Software Engineering Stratus Computer -----Original Message----- >>Hey, >> >> I was wondering if any of you knew reliable and accurate sites on >>VAX/VMS especially things that deal with networking and security. I need to >>right a technical paper on those. And I'm at a lost of reliable sources

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VAX/VMS
by Geoff April 23, 2001

April 23, 2001

Hey, I was wondering if any of you knew reliable and accurate sites on VAX/VMS especially things that deal with networking and security. I need to right a technical paper on those. And I'm at a lost of reliable sources since google is me 9,000 plus sites and at the ones I've looked at none of them are what I am looking for. Geoffrey Phillips +01-508-795-6841 geoff_phillips(a)acm.org (Professional) gphillips(a)clarkie.net (Professional) resume at: http://www.clarkie.net/

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In regards to the 50% discount for lugs...
by Keller, Tim April 20, 2001

April 20, 2001

Would nine other people be interested in buying a copy of Tribes 2? I might just accidentally setup a tribes server out in our DMZ :-) Tim.

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Cable modem/lilo
by William Hine April 19, 2001

April 19, 2001

The version of SUSE linux I was running seemed to give me a problem with DHCP. Ive yet to figure out what it is, and cable modems should be simple to setup. Anyways I installed mandrake 8.0 beta 3. The installation utility is great. I booted in the system for the first time and was able to use my modem. Thanx for the reccomendation. I was wondering if anyone can help me with lilo. When I boot my machine it only displays LI. I seem to remember this having to do something with the drive geometry. Any Ideas? I also installed grub which when I boot just displays GRUB. What could be wrong? TIA Bill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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Need input re: developers tools
by Andy Stewart April 19, 2001

April 19, 2001

HI gang, I am starting to write up the last 1/3 of my presentation to the Delphi Developers group, and its the section on developer tools and utilities. I'd like some input from you folks as to what I should include in this section. Emacs - the original "IDE" (???) gdb for debugging (nicer with DDD front end, IMHO) make and Makefiles gcc What else do "real" Linux developers use? Maybe I'm suffering a brain cramp this evening, but your input will help. Also, are there any tools or compilers for Pascal? Remember, the Delphi folks understand Pascal, and I'm sure they will ask this question. (It has been 20 years since I programmed anything in Pascal...). Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | Osborn's Law: Variables won't; constants Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | aren't. Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | http://www.wlug.org |

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[Fwd: Your 4/19 LUG meeting]
by Andy Stewart April 19, 2001

April 19, 2001

HI gang, Would somebody who attends the WLUG meeting on Thursday be willing to write up something which can be posted on LWN, LinuxToday, and LinuxUsersGroups.org? Kara has asked, and I told her that we'd come up with something. Thanks in advance, Andy -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Your 4/19 LUG meeting Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:24:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Kara Pritchard <kara(a)luci.org> To: <andystewart(a)mediaone.net> Hi Andy, Looks like you have a fun evening planned for your next LUG meeting. I'd be interested if you (or someone in your group) would do a write-up about the special meeting, or perhaps an interview. I'll host it at LinuxUsersGroups.org and have it posted to LWN and LinuxToday. It'll be a good opportunity both for your group and for Ziegler's book. -- Kara Pritchard Phone: 618-398-7360 Author, RHCE Exam Cram Director of Exam Development http://www.lpi.org/ Site Manager http://www.LinuxUsersGroups.org/ --

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Re: [Wlug] max memory?
by ccb＠acm.org April 18, 2001

April 18, 2001

> > Is linux limited to 4GB memory? > > Nope, not 2.4 anyways. I don't remember the limit, but it's a big > number. ;-) > > > I have inherited some boxes with 5GB each and I'm planning on loading linux. Some things to remember - if these are x86 architecture boxes, you still have a 3GB per process user space limit. Even with 64GB of RAM, no single process can see more than 4GB and the top 1GB of that is mapped as kernel space. Big memory means that you get to have lots of large virtual address spaces that can remain mapped in physical RAM. For virtual address spaces with wider than 32-bit addresses, you need 64-bit processors. ccb -- Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com

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Red Hat Linux 7.1
by Charles R. Anderson April 17, 2001

April 17, 2001

Red Hat 7.1, based on the Linux 2.4 kernel, is out as of 10:00am this morning. I have a mirror of i386 disc1 and disc2 ISO's and the full FTP install tree if anyone wants it. FTP install/upgrade boot image: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.1/en/os/i386/images/boot… Server: angus.ind.wpi.edu Directory: /pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.1/en/os/i386 ISO download: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.1/en/iso/i386 Have fun! Charles R. Anderson cra(a)wpi.edu Network Engineer (508) 831-6110 Computing and Communications Center (508) 831-5115 Worcester Polytechnic Institute Fax (508) 831-5483

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Re: [Wlug] Need input re: developers tools
by Doug Chamberlin April 17, 2001

April 17, 2001

At 4/16/2001 11:50 AM (Monday), Scott Venier wrote: >You might also want to mention codewarrior. http://www.metrowerks.com >Nice and pretty for those folks who grew up developing on macos or >windows. You might keep in mind that the Delphi Developers Group is made up of developers who are 99% likely to use Kylix for development. Therefore, they won't be much interested in alternative development environments. However, they WILL be interested in auxiliary tools which are considered essential to managing applications on Linux not matter what the original language the app is written in. I would put the rpm and other packaging/installing tools in this category. P.S. I think Kylix includes a debugger. If it is as good as the one Borland has for the Win32 platform then it is all these developers will be using.

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max memory?
by Bill Mills-Curran April 16, 2001

April 16, 2001

Is linux limited to 4GB memory? I have inherited some boxes with 5GB each and I'm planning on loading linux. Thanks, Bill

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