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RE: [Wlug] The obligatory Apps CD...
by Keller, Tim Feb. 8, 2002

Feb. 8, 2002

Cool, I grabbed OpenOffice build 641c. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Wesley Allen [mailto:wallen@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 19:16 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] The obligatory Apps CD... Tim, Star Office 6.0 isn't downloadable right now, but Open Office is. And the latest build of Open Office is actually further along in development than the 6.0 beta; I'd include that on any "killer apps" cd for sure. Wes On Thu, 2002-02-07 at 15:30, Keller, Tim wrote: > I'm not sure what would be considered the "top" perl modules. if you goto > cpan.perl.org they've got like 3000 perl modules to choose from... > > If Mike or someone feels inclined to make me a tarball of the "top 50" I'd > gladly put them on the cd. > > As it stands this is what we've got. > > Alsa drivers, stable and development > Kernel 2.4.17 > rdesktop (lets you access windows 2000 terminal services) > TightVNC (client and server) + docs > UltraMaster RS101 > StarOffice 5.2 (6.0 isn't available anymore...) > Latest build of Wine > gPhoto + libusb > Mplayer / Xine / libdvdcss > xmame > acrobat > gaim > Mozilla > Netscape > Opera > XMMS + lots of plugins > ogg-vorbis (RC3) > Java / flash / realplayer plugins for mozilla/netscape > > If people think I'm missing something, our you've got a killer app you think > people should have... let me know. I've still got only got about 1/2 a cd. > > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Peckar [mailto:fog@fognet.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 14:40 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] The obligatory Apps CD... > > > Hows about the top 25 (50?) perl mods? > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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PDA's and Linux
by Simoncini, Matthew Feb. 8, 2002

Feb. 8, 2002

Hello all, I'm in the market for a decent PDA (Palm III died) and was wondering what everyone's experience has been with PDA's and synching with a Linux machine. I run Red Hat 7.1, not sure what kernel, but wanted to make sure the PDA and associated desktop software I bought would run under Linux. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks.

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RE: [Wlug] The obligatory Apps CD...
by Keller, Tim Feb. 8, 2002

Feb. 8, 2002

I got all those, and I just added gimp-print. This is turning out to be a kickass cd! Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@mediaone.net] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 21:03 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] The obligatory Apps CD... On Thursday 07 February 2002 11:28 am, you wrote: > Hey All... > > Like Always, I put together a "killer apps" cd that has what I think > people would want and need... xine decss dvdnav and of course, gimp-print. Later, Andy > > This is what I've got on it so far, I'd like some input on things to > add... > > Kernel: > latest kernel sources (2.4.17) > > Browsers: > Opera > Netscape 6.2 > Mozilla latest build > > Plugins: > Java > Real player > Flash > > Audio: > xmms-1.2.6 + plugins > ogg-vorbis > > Apps: > Acrobat 4.05 > xmame 58.1 > > Thanks, > Tim. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Install-fest this Saturday, the 9th...
by Evans, Robert Feb. 8, 2002

Feb. 8, 2002

Another committment grabbed me on Saturday. I will not be able to attend. I'd appreciate it if you can save me a copy of the install media if there are extras. Robert N. Evans, N2-SWE, Phone: 978-461-7680 -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:21 PM To: 'wlug(a)wlug.org' Subject: [Wlug] Install-fest this Saturday, the 9th... Hey Fellow Lugers... This is a reminder that were going to be having an installfest this Saturday on the 9th. If you know anybody who's interested in attending, please have them send me email! I've got a couple of questions to ask... 1. If your planning on attending as an installer, could you drop me a line. Chuck and Andy are already on the list, I'd just like to have a clean number so I can size the shifts. 2. Has the install-fest been posted to the wpi news groups? If not, could it please be posted. Thanks, Tim. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] The obligatory Apps CD...
by Simoncini, Matthew Feb. 8, 2002

Feb. 8, 2002

If someone burns copies of this CD (including newbie stuff) and brings copies to the next WLUG Meeting, I'd pay for the cost of one.

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RE: [Wlug] The obligatory Apps CD...
by Keller, Tim Feb. 8, 2002

Feb. 8, 2002

I'm not sure what would be considered the "top" perl modules. if you goto cpan.perl.org they've got like 3000 perl modules to choose from... If Mike or someone feels inclined to make me a tarball of the "top 50" I'd gladly put them on the cd. As it stands this is what we've got. Alsa drivers, stable and development Kernel 2.4.17 rdesktop (lets you access windows 2000 terminal services) TightVNC (client and server) + docs UltraMaster RS101 StarOffice 5.2 (6.0 isn't available anymore...) Latest build of Wine gPhoto + libusb Mplayer / Xine / libdvdcss xmame acrobat gaim Mozilla Netscape Opera XMMS + lots of plugins ogg-vorbis (RC3) Java / flash / realplayer plugins for mozilla/netscape If people think I'm missing something, our you've got a killer app you think people should have... let me know. I've still got only got about 1/2 a cd. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Peckar [mailto:fog@fognet.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 14:40 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] The obligatory Apps CD... Hows about the top 25 (50?) perl mods? _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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The obligatory Apps CD...
by Keller, Tim Feb. 8, 2002

Feb. 8, 2002

Hey All... Like Always, I put together a "killer apps" cd that has what I think people would want and need... This is what I've got on it so far, I'd like some input on things to add... Kernel: latest kernel sources (2.4.17) Browsers: Opera Netscape 6.2 Mozilla latest build Plugins: Java Real player Flash Audio: xmms-1.2.6 + plugins ogg-vorbis Apps: Acrobat 4.05 xmame 58.1 Thanks, Tim.

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RE: [Wlug] The obligatory Apps CD...
by luke macneil Feb. 8, 2002

Feb. 8, 2002

Ill bust out a tarball of themes tonight. Howabout some security apps.. nessus, nmap, tripwire, snort and such.. The newest builds of PHP, Apache, and mySQL are nice to have Howabout The Loki Games Installer? Different Burning Software.. xcdroast, gtoaster, cdrtoaster, gcombust Hmm. Thats all I can think of right now :) >From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: "'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org'" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] The obligatory Apps CD... >Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:30:09 -0500 > >I'm not sure what would be considered the "top" perl modules. if you goto >cpan.perl.org they've got like 3000 perl modules to choose from... > >If Mike or someone feels inclined to make me a tarball of the "top 50" I'd >gladly put them on the cd. > >As it stands this is what we've got. > >Alsa drivers, stable and development >Kernel 2.4.17 >rdesktop (lets you access windows 2000 terminal services) >TightVNC (client and server) + docs >UltraMaster RS101 >StarOffice 5.2 (6.0 isn't available anymore...) >Latest build of Wine >gPhoto + libusb >Mplayer / Xine / libdvdcss >xmame >acrobat >gaim >Mozilla >Netscape >Opera >XMMS + lots of plugins >ogg-vorbis (RC3) >Java / flash / realplayer plugins for mozilla/netscape > >If people think I'm missing something, our you've got a killer app you >think >people should have... let me know. I've still got only got about 1/2 a cd. > >Tim. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Peckar [mailto:fog@fognet.com] >Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 14:40 PM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] The obligatory Apps CD... > > >Hows about the top 25 (50?) perl mods? > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Id just like to introduce myself.
by luke macneil Feb. 7, 2002

Feb. 7, 2002

Greetings, I am a fellow Linux enthusiast new to this group. I have previously spent my time working in #linuxpeople on dalnet to help out newbies get they're systems installed and configured. Ive begun to compile a list of newbie oriented tutorials.. and other things of the sort. Id like to get more involved in the community in a more "hands on" sort of way. Anyway, Ill try to make it to the installfest this Saturday, and I thank you all for being here. Luke MacNeil. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Re: [Wlug] The obligatory Apps CD...
by luke macneil Feb. 7, 2002

Feb. 7, 2002

You can add sound apps... ALSA O.S.S. The Alsa and OSS plugins for XMMS.. Also a collection of themes from classic.themes.org would be nice, window managers and such.. Ill help collect if you like. Luke. >From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: "'wlug(a)wlug.org'" <wlug(a)wlug.org> >Subject: [Wlug] The obligatory Apps CD... >Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 11:28:09 -0500 > >Hey All... > >Like Always, I put together a "killer apps" cd that has what I think people >would want and need... > >This is what I've got on it so far, I'd like some input on things to add... > >Kernel: >latest kernel sources (2.4.17) > >Browsers: >Opera >Netscape 6.2 >Mozilla latest build > >Plugins: >Java >Real player >Flash > >Audio: >xmms-1.2.6 + plugins >ogg-vorbis > >Apps: >Acrobat 4.05 >xmame 58.1 > >Thanks, >Tim. >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Re: [Wlug] The obligatory Apps CD...
by ccb＠acm.org Feb. 7, 2002

Feb. 7, 2002

> Like Always, I put together a "killer apps" cd that has what I think people > would want and need... > > This is what I've got on it so far, I'd like some input on things to add... Lame VNC Java Runtime or JDK Flash plugin StarOffice Ultramaster RS101 (http://www.ultramaster.com/rs101) ccb

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RE: [Wlug] Install-fest this Saturday, the 9th...
by Keller, Tim Feb. 7, 2002

Feb. 7, 2002

No Problem :-) Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Evans, Robert [mailto:Robert.Evans@stratus.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 19:27 PM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: RE: [Wlug] Install-fest this Saturday, the 9th... Another committment grabbed me on Saturday. I will not be able to attend. I'd appreciate it if you can save me a copy of the install media if there are extras. Robert N. Evans, N2-SWE, Phone: 978-461-7680 -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:21 PM To: 'wlug(a)wlug.org' Subject: [Wlug] Install-fest this Saturday, the 9th... Hey Fellow Lugers... This is a reminder that were going to be having an installfest this Saturday on the 9th. If you know anybody who's interested in attending, please have them send me email! I've got a couple of questions to ask... 1. If your planning on attending as an installer, could you drop me a line. Chuck and Andy are already on the list, I'd just like to have a clean number so I can size the shifts. 2. Has the install-fest been posted to the wpi news groups? If not, could it please be posted. Thanks, Tim. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Linux Cartoon in TG
by Keith Wright Feb. 7, 2002

Feb. 7, 2002

Check out page C3 of the 2002-02-05 Worcester Telegram and Gazette to see a cartoon "The 5th Wave" by Rich Tennet: Four guys sit around a table, one is shuffling cards and says: "It's called 'Linux Poker.' Everyone gets to see everyone else's cards, everything is wild, you can play off your opponent's hands, and everyone wins except Bill Gates, whose face appears on the jokers." -- -- Keith Wright <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com> Programmer in Chief, Free Computer Shop <http://www.free-comp-shop.com> --- Food, Shelter, Source code. ---

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Stuff to raffle off at the installfest!
by Keller, Tim Feb. 6, 2002

Feb. 6, 2002

Hey Fellow Lugers!, Allison Wesley Publishing sent me two copies of "Linux System Administration: A User's Guide" to raffle off at the install fest! Definity Cool! Tim.

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RE: [Wlug] Install-fest this Saturday, the 9th...
by Keller, Tim Feb. 4, 2002

Feb. 4, 2002

It's going to be at Stratus Technologies. If you check the www.wlug.org web page, there's a link to the directions. I'll put you on the list that you need a "surgeon" to look at your laptop. Thanks, Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Wesley Allen [mailto:wallen@charter.net] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 13:39 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Install-fest this Saturday, the 9th... Keller, Tim wrote: >Hey Fellow Lugers... > >This is a reminder that were going to be having an installfest this Saturday >on the 9th. If you know anybody who's interested in attending, please have >them send me email! > >I've got a couple of questions to ask... > >1. If your planning on attending as an installer, could you drop me a line. >Chuck and Andy are already on the list, I'd just like to have a clean number >so I can size the shifts. > >2. Has the install-fest been posted to the wpi news groups? If not, could >it please be posted. > >Thanks, >Tim. >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > Since I can never come to the meetings this may sound like a stupid question...where is the installfest going to be held; and what time? I don't know if I'll be able to go for long, but wouldn't mind helping out. (I've got a bit of a selfish reason for coming too, I was wondering if anyone who knows X better than I do has gotten a latop lcd to use the whole display without using the vesa driver). Maybe see you saturday? Wesley T Allen _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Install-fest this Saturday, the 9th...
by Keller, Tim Feb. 4, 2002

Feb. 4, 2002

Hey Fellow Lugers... This is a reminder that were going to be having an installfest this Saturday on the 9th. If you know anybody who's interested in attending, please have them send me email! I've got a couple of questions to ask... 1. If your planning on attending as an installer, could you drop me a line. Chuck and Andy are already on the list, I'd just like to have a clean number so I can size the shifts. 2. Has the install-fest been posted to the wpi news groups? If not, could it please be posted. Thanks, Tim.

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Getting D-Link DWL-650 card configured
by Bill Brinkmann Feb. 1, 2002

Feb. 1, 2002

Has anyone on the list been successful in configuring this card? The drivers load and the card is recognised but I am having difficulty comparing the configuration options available under Linux to Win2000. I am running a dual boot PC and the card runs under Win2k. My Linux version is Mandrake 8.0.

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Loop back confusion
by Adam ＠ Oak Jan. 31, 2002

Jan. 31, 2002

It seems like modifications to a loopback mounted file are only in memory. How do I flush them to the mounted file? # mount -t msdos -o loop pqdiboot.img /mnt # ls /mnt aspi8dos.sys aspicd.sys autoexec.bat command.com delscpt.txt io.sys msdos.sys aspi8u2.sys atapicd.sys choice.com config.sys himem.sys mscdex.exe taisatap.sys # md5sum /mnt/autoexec.bat c5204d8e68d8ad6c714df02584d0b5d3 /mnt/autoexec.bat # vi /mnt/autoexec.bat (modify, save, exit) # umount /mnt # mount -t msdos -o loop pqdiboot.img /mnt # md5sum /mnt/autoexec.bat ac12a4b88ad43f1023806fb620475edb /mnt/autoexec.bat inspection of the file reveals that the file hasn't been modified. I have used this method before; I don't know what's different this time. Other info: # mount |grep loop (when image is mounted) /home/akeck/cdimage/MWCD/pqdiboot.img on /mnt type msdos (rw,loop=/dev/loop0) # uname -a Linux yupa 2.4.17 #6 SMP Sun Jan 20 23:27:42 EST 2002 i686 unknown Msdos and loopback device support is compiled into the kernel. floppy image is 1.44mb Please help: dd'ing to disk, modifying with vi/mtools, then dd'ing back to file is getting really old ;) -Adam "lingua machinationis creo, ergo sum" _____________________________________________ Adam Keck The Mathworks Natick, Ma www.mathworks.com FreeNIX/Backup/Unix Administrator _____________________________________________

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video card problems (I think)
by avedis＠ma.ultranet.com Jan. 30, 2002

Jan. 30, 2002

Hi all. I'm lost trying to install suse 7.2 on a P166 with an ELSA GLoria vid card. I'm getting quite experienced with the different xfree setup utilities. When I was installing the software, I couldn't get past the video test and could only install text mode. If I use xf86config and use the vga16 driver, I can get into X, but all I see is the background color, and the only way out is ctrl-alt-back. I had to manually edit /etc/XF86Config to get rid of the 800X600 virtual screen and force it to 640X480. I did that so I could use sax without it going offscreen and out of reach of my mouse. Oh yeah, sax wasn't able to do the job, and sax2 told me I was using XFree v.3 and promised to install v.4, but it just hung totally - blank screen, hit the reset button to reboot. Using XF86Setup, I was able to install the XF86_3DLabs server (the right one) and can now get as far as the KDE desktop starting to open. It hangs when it's checking peripherals. Does that mean that some hardware is not set up properly, and if so, how do I find out which it is? Many thanks if anyone can point me in the right direction. Greg

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Cue Cats
by Adam Keck Jan. 30, 2002

Jan. 30, 2002

Anyone play with these things (and associated Perl/php tools)? I just got 4 of 'em from a local Radio Shack for free. My coworkers and I are about to attempt to setup a backup tape tracking system with them. I was wondering if anyone had any comments on them. -Adam "lingua machinationis creo, ergo sum" _____________________________________________ Adam Keck The Mathworks 508-647-7298 Natick, Ma www.mathworks.com FreeNIX/Backup/Unix Administrator _____________________________________________

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Bug reporting?
by Bill Mills-Curran Jan. 30, 2002

Jan. 30, 2002

How do I report a bug (or at least ask for help) in a newer kernel? (The gory details are below, if you are interested.) I sent some email to a developer whose name I found in the suspect source, but I did not get any response. Any suggestions? TIA, Bill **************************************************************** Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:40:01 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Mills-Curran <Mills-Curran_Bill(a)emc.com> To: claus(a)momo.math.rwth-aachen.de Subject: nfs readdir bug? Claus, I am reporting a bug that I suspect is in nfs readdir. I am reporting it to you, because I found your email address in the source. If this is wrong, please tell me. Symptom: Several programs (details below) do not read the contents of an nfs-mounted directory. There is no indicated failure -- there just is no data. The nfs server is DG/UX. The nfs client is linux, kernel version 2.4.16. The problem does not show up with the 2.4.2 kernel (RedHat 7.1 dist.) or on nfs systems from a SUN server. Note: We are using reiserfs on an array which is locally mounted to the linux host. The hardware is: DG (Data General) Aviion 8900 4 cpu, 500 MHz. strace note: I ran strace on my program. It reported that getdents64 function was finding the right number of directory entries. **************** These operations/programs fail to read a directory. In all cases, the OS is linux 2.4.16 and the filesystem is served by DG/UX. All directories (that I tested) on the filesystem have the problem. tcsh file completion (using the tab key) readdir in Perl readdir in my own test program (included below) **************** These operations work with the 2.4.16 kernel. All operations on other filesystems, nfs (SUN server) and local The "ls" command works everywhere Thanks for your time. Bill Mills-Curran -- Bill Mills-Curran Mills-Curran_Bill(a)emc.com EMC Corporation Tel: 508 382-7642 Coslin Drive, MS C33 Fax: 508 382-7913 Southboro, MA 01772 **************************************************************** Here's the source for my test program: #include <stdio.h> #include <sys/types.h> #include <dirent.h> int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { DIR *dir; struct dirent *dirent; printf("Reading %s\n", argv[1]); dir = opendir(argv[1]); while((dirent = readdir(dir))) { printf("%s\n", dirent->d_name); } return (0); }

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RE: [Wlug] ssh-dummy-shell for OpenSSH???
by Keller, Tim Jan. 30, 2002

Jan. 30, 2002

Actually it does. I tried /bin/false and it fails to setup the ssh connection properly. I guess the shell will let sftp only run specific sftp commands, anything else causes it to exit. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Venier [mailto:scottven@umich.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:58 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] ssh-dummy-shell for OpenSSH??? does the ssh-dummy-shell have to actually do anything for sFTP to work, or does it just have to be in /etc/shells? If it just has to be in /etc/shells, /bin/false works. Been using that for years for (non-s)FTP-only accounts. Scott On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Keller, Tim wrote: > I'm setting up a test environment using OpenSSH built in sFTP server. What > I want to-do is build a chroot environment where people can connect to the > machine via sFTP but not via SSH. > > I know with the commercial version of SSH they have ssh-dummy-shell which > when you try to connect via SSH just bails on you, but lets sFTP work > properly. > > I've done some digging on the web and I haven't found anything that'll > replace this functionality on the OpenSSH side of things. > > Anybody got any ideas/links of an open source version of ssh-dummy-shell. > > Thanks, > Tim. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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ssh-dummy-shell for OpenSSH???
by Keller, Tim Jan. 30, 2002

Jan. 30, 2002

I'm setting up a test environment using OpenSSH built in sFTP server. What I want to-do is build a chroot environment where people can connect to the machine via sFTP but not via SSH. I know with the commercial version of SSH they have ssh-dummy-shell which when you try to connect via SSH just bails on you, but lets sFTP work properly. I've done some digging on the web and I haven't found anything that'll replace this functionality on the OpenSSH side of things. Anybody got any ideas/links of an open source version of ssh-dummy-shell. Thanks, Tim.

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BBC cd
by doug waud Jan. 30, 2002

Jan. 30, 2002

Hi all A few meeting back, Andy gave out some BBC-Linux cd's. I decided to try one and got hung up. Basically everything went well until I got to the stage of downloading stuff from the net (the network card set-up worked fine). The download hung. It defaulted to the address 64.81.65.8 for zork.net where the stuff was supposed to be. I suspected that zork.net had moved so I went to another box and went to it via netscape. It came up ok (the directory structure was slightly different but the files were there). The problem is that the BBC script needs a dotted quad, not a zork.net. So the problem is to find out the dotted quad for zork.net. I tried ping zork.net and it pinged 66.92.188.166. I then went there and got crackmonkey.org. I tried pinging crackmonkey.org and got that same 66.92.188.166 I got pinging zork.net ! arp zork.net and crackmonkey.org also gives that same common dotted quad. Ping of the BBC default address 64.81.65.8 gives nothing. Unlike Netscape, Konquerer will take dotted quads. The 66.92.188.166 comes up crackmonkey.org consistent with the preceding while 64.81.65.8 gives the error message "could not connect to host 64.81.65.8". My question, then, is how does one get a dotted quad for zork.net? A related question is whether anyone tried/succeeded loading Debian starting with that BBC-linux cd? i.e. can it be done? (The README-DEBIAN on the cd gives alternative sites but none of them has the -bbc versions of the image and tarball the install script is looking for. I admit to not wanting to go down the path of redoing the install scripts :-( ) This email sure did not please the spell-checker! :-) doug

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Interesting app...
by William Smith Jan. 30, 2002

Jan. 30, 2002

I saw this on Freshmeat.net and thought i would take a look at it. i like it so far... i thought others might be interested. http://www.webmin.com in a nutshell, it's an admin tool that works through your favorite web browser. -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com

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