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3D and Laptop
by Dennis Payne 13 Apr '02

13 Apr '02

Anyone have any recommendations for a linux laptop with 3D hardware acceleration? I'm not particularly interested in the closed source nvidia drivers so I'm leaning towards the Radeon 7500. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

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RE: [Wlug] Sharp's Linux PDA
by Marc Hughes 12 Apr '02

12 Apr '02

I got to play with one of these at linux world. I saw ssh working over wireless networking on one of them... definatly linux, definatly cool. The interface is QT-Embeded, but you can find way more about it here: http://www.sharp-usa.com/products/ModelLanding/0,1058,699,00.html http://developer.sharpsec.com/ -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Stephen C. Daukas [mailto:stephen@daukas.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 4:13 PM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Sharp's Linux PDA I hear it runs "embedix", some embedded version of Linux... Anyone have any particulars on this unit, roomers, hearsay, etc.? Steve _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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REMINDER: Upcoming WLUG meeting
by Andy Stewart 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

HI everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting which will be held this coming Thursday, April 11th, at 7 PM in Kinnicutt Hall at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA. At this meeting, WLUG member Tim Keller will describe to us a problem he had with Linux and how he chose to modify his copy of the Linux kernel to add a new signal to solve the problem. This talk will cover some kernel internals and programming. A more detailed abstract can be found on the WLUG website. There will be a raffle as well. Addison Wesley sent me a copy of a book entitled "Embedded Linux - Hardware, Software, and Interfacing" which I'll give to the lucky raffle winner. There is no cost to be in the raffle. I'd also like to entertain a discussion regarding content for future meetings. Here are some thoughts which I had: a) bakeoff between VMware, Win4Lin, and Bochs b) KDE3 c) representative from FSF to discuss GPL and free software d) Maddog e) SuSE 8.0 Please think about this and bring your thoughts to the meeting. If you're bashful or unable to attend the meeting, send them to me via e-mail. Afterwards, we'll make our ever popular pilgrimage to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer, good Linux talk, bashing of evil empires, and the like. We always have a great time so if you've never joined us after a meeting, now would be a good time to start! See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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Re: Wlug digest, Vol 1 #292 - 2 msgs
by JRame17173＠aol.com 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Please be advised, my e-mail address has changed. It is now rame620(a)charter.net. Thanks, Jim

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Linux and NTFS on XP
by John 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

In Linux dual boot systems you can mount the Win98 side drive to read and write using vfat. Question, if you run Win2000 or XP with a NTFS type file system can you still access the drives from the Linux side.

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RBL access
by Chuck Homic 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

Hey, guys. I'm getting quite a lot of crap email these days, ever since ORBS/ORBL & Co. disappeared, and MAPS went to a fee-based service. (I'm really not planning to pay $200/yr for a single blackhole list.) I was never really crazy about MAPS to begin with, because they tried too hard to be "fair." ;) ORBS was hyper-aggressive, and rocked. (About 80% of my crap email was filtered by ORBS, and I had special pre-RBL filters that extracted mail from friends using bad ISP's with open relays.) Anyway, is anyone using (or know of) a freely-queriable RBL? Although it's fun to upgrade the keyword filter, it would be easier if I only had to do it for exceptions. BTW, for the curious, my daily haul of junk mail varies from 20 to 40 messages. Can anyone beat that? -Chuck

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Redundant Mail....
by wlug＠beakerware.net 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

I couldn't think of a better way of phrasing it. I'm running Courier for incoming SMTP, POP3, IMAP, and webmail. The mail itself is stored using Maildirs in user's home directory. Short of running something like rsync between my primary box and backup, is their any good way of getting redundancy into the picture here? I already have the backup box setup as a relay in case the primary goes down, but that doesn't make the mail any closer to the user.... -mike

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RE: [Wlug] Problems dropping telnet sessions
by Simoncini, Matthew 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

I executed the iptables -L command and got the following output: Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination I'm not really that familiar with firewalls in linux, but I would assume that iptables is running without rules? I also noticed that it's not one particular host that bumps me out of telnet, but all connections and all hosts. The network folks don't know (or maybe they do) that I'm running linux on the network, but is there a way for them to periodically reset the port I'm using in the data closet? This is really quite interesting to me, so any input is very helpful. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:11 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Problems dropping telnet sessions On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 09:36:00AM -0500, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > Anyone have this type of problem or more importantly, can someone point me > in the right direction? My first two thoughts are: iptables times out your connection for some reason, or the remote side has an autologout value set. Is there a firewall setup on your box? You can do "iptables -L" to find out. As for autologout, I would think this would have affected you before, but it's something to rule out anyway. What shell are you using on the remote machines? If it's a csh variant, run "echo $autologout" and see what it comes back with. If it comes back with a defined non-0 value, that is a likely cause of your problem. Run "set autologout=0" and see if that fixes your problem. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Note that if I can get you to \"su and say\" something just by asking, you have a very serious security problem on your system and you should look into it." (By Paul Vixie, vixie-cron 3.0.1 installation notes) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] next meeting
by Keller, Tim 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

Yup, actually I'm doing a presentation on writing a system call for the linux kernel. Speaking of which, I need to get back to working on my presentation... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Venier [mailto:scott@scooter.cx] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:23 AM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: RE: [Wlug] next meeting Any chance we have a topic yet? Scott On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Keller, Tim wrote: > Yup, at last check the 11th is still on! > > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Goblaskas, Dana [mailto:goblaskasd@grafton.k12.ma.us] > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:18 AM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] next meeting > > > Hello, > > I just wanted to check if the meeting for April 11th is > still on. I have a few students in a computer science > independent study who are interested in attending. If the > meeting is still going to take place 4/11 at 7:00pm, please > e-mail me back and let me know. > > Thank you! > > Dana > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] next meeting
by Keller, Tim 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

Yup, at last check the 11th is still on! Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Goblaskas, Dana [mailto:goblaskasd@grafton.k12.ma.us] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:18 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] next meeting Hello, I just wanted to check if the meeting for April 11th is still on. I have a few students in a computer science independent study who are interested in attending. If the meeting is still going to take place 4/11 at 7:00pm, please e-mail me back and let me know. Thank you! Dana _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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next meeting
by Goblaskas, Dana 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

Hello, I just wanted to check if the meeting for April 11th is still on. I have a few students in a computer science independent study who are interested in attending. If the meeting is still going to take place 4/11 at 7:00pm, please e-mail me back and let me know. Thank you! Dana

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RE: [Wlug] CPU & Bad NFS Question
by Marc Hughes 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

Also, forgot to mention it ... any ideas on how to make this not happen in the first place? -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Marc Hughes Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 3:11 PM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] CPU & Bad NFS Question So yesterday I had an nfs mount go bad (thought it would be a great idea to just use nfs for a few minutes to do some file comparisons across machines) .. And since then the CPU utilizaion on the machine has been pegged out. The machine still is very responsive. When the mount went bad ... I couldn't do anything with any process that was using anything on that volume. I tried a bunch of stuff, but eventually just shut down NFS (so the processes got an I/O error and died) and did an "umount -f" on that volume. Any ideas on how to make this better? -Marc CPU0 states: 14.0% user, 85.0% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle CPU1 states: 50.0% user, 50.0% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle Mem: 1048088K av, 1023836K used, 24252K free, 0K shrd, 45404K buff Swap: 1052248K av, 148K used, 1052100K free 763964K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE LC STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 20099 hughesm 16 0 940 940 696 3 R 2.6 0.0 0:00 top 20074 root 2 0 1716 1704 1188 2 S 0.3 0.1 0:00 sshd 1 root 0 0 484 484 408 3 S 0.0 0.0 2:31 init 2 root 0 0 0 0 0 2 SW 0.0 0.0 0:18 kflushd 3 root 0 0 0 0 0 2 SW 0.0 0.0 9:22 kupdate 4 root 0 0 0 0 0 2 SW 0.0 0.0 9:00 kswapd _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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CPU & Bad NFS Question
by Marc Hughes 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

So yesterday I had an nfs mount go bad (thought it would be a great idea to just use nfs for a few minutes to do some file comparisons across machines) .. And since then the CPU utilizaion on the machine has been pegged out. The machine still is very responsive. When the mount went bad ... I couldn't do anything with any process that was using anything on that volume. I tried a bunch of stuff, but eventually just shut down NFS (so the processes got an I/O error and died) and did an "umount -f" on that volume. Any ideas on how to make this better? -Marc CPU0 states: 14.0% user, 85.0% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle CPU1 states: 50.0% user, 50.0% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle Mem: 1048088K av, 1023836K used, 24252K free, 0K shrd, 45404K buff Swap: 1052248K av, 148K used, 1052100K free 763964K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE LC STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 20099 hughesm 16 0 940 940 696 3 R 2.6 0.0 0:00 top 20074 root 2 0 1716 1704 1188 2 S 0.3 0.1 0:00 sshd 1 root 0 0 484 484 408 3 S 0.0 0.0 2:31 init 2 root 0 0 0 0 0 2 SW 0.0 0.0 0:18 kflushd 3 root 0 0 0 0 0 2 SW 0.0 0.0 9:22 kupdate 4 root 0 0 0 0 0 2 SW 0.0 0.0 9:00 kswapd

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ADV: Harvest lots of Email addresses quickly
by eyou321 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

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Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area)
by Stephen C. Daukas 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

A friend of mine has a small business in Westborough and I helped put together a web site for him. He now wants to dump AOL and get a less expensive "dial-up account". Anyone have a recommendation? He is paying ~$25/month for AOL... He doesn't want/need Charter, just wants to check mail a few times during the day. Also, anyone know if you can set-up email forwarding in AOL? Thanks! Steve

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RE: [Wlug] Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area)
by Simoncini, Matthew 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

www.speakeasy.net -----Original Message----- From: Stephen C. Daukas [mailto:stephen@daukas.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:42 AM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area) A friend of mine has a small business in Westborough and I helped put together a web site for him. He now wants to dump AOL and get a less expensive "dial-up account". Anyone have a recommendation? He is paying ~$25/month for AOL... He doesn't want/need Charter, just wants to check mail a few times during the day. Also, anyone know if you can set-up email forwarding in AOL? Thanks! Steve _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Another interesting .signature...
by Stephen C. Daukas 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

"Volk" means "people". You can figure out the rest. "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Ad "Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler

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Problems dropping telnet sessions
by Simoncini, Matthew 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Hello all, I recently traded in my Solaris 8 (x86) install for SuSE Linux 7.3 and now am having problems keeping telnet sessions open for extended periods of time. Let me give a little background on what I use this box for. Basically my linux box is used as a workstation for system monitoring. I usually have 6 to 8 separate desktops which I use to separate our different Unix environments (i.e. development, test, production ...). I may run HP Openview client on one desktop to monitor alerts and keep telnet sessions open on other desktops in order to quickly access a given server. Until recently I've been using Solaris 8 (x86) with no problems, but decided I wanted to get comfortable with linux and prove to my boss that there are many nice things we can do with linux that we can't do with Solaris. I installed SuSe 7.3 (2.4.10 kernel) and since have had troubles keeping telnet connections alive. What I mean by that is, when I leave the linux workstation inactive for a period of time (let's say 30 minutes), my telnet sessions are disconnected with the message "Connection closed by foreign host". I can find no messages in /var/adm/messages (on the Solaris side) or /var/log/messages (on the linux side). Anyone have this type of problem or more importantly, can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks. Matthew

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poor PCMCIA network performance
by Robert L Krawitz 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

I use two network cards in my Dell Inspiron 8000 (PIII-700): a 3Com 3CCFE574BT and a Linksys wireless card. With the 3Com card (which is a 10/100) I never get better than 1.4 MB/sec (about 12 Mb/sec), even when the card is in 100 Mb mode (at some point in the past the limit was about 2.5 MB/sec). At that rate, top shows my CPU utilization pegged at about 100%, even doing a simple ftp. I know the card doesn't do DMA, but that's rather slow even for a PIO transfer. These cards have been around for ages; I don't think people would have been too satisfied with 400 KB/sec saturating a 200 MHz system. On the Linksys card, I likewise never get more than about 250 KB/sec, even if the computer is right next to the WAP and the link quality is 92/92, suggesting that I'm also hitting up against a hard limit. The WAP is connected to my main system via the motherboard ethernet, which I know from other means (when I was transferring data from my previous system to the current one) has no trouble maxing out at 10 MB/sec (that ethernet does DMA). eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"..." Nickname:"..." Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437GHz Access Point: 00:04:5A:CF:F3:B1 Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry min limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link Quality:26/92 Signal level:-76 dBm Noise level:-149 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 I'm running SuSE 7.3 on both systems, with a recompiled kernel based on kernel-source-2.4.16.SuSE-24. I'm not (or don't think I am) running a firewall or NAT on the laptop, despite what's in the module list. I've had no luck finding anything on the net. Modules that look like they should be relevant are: orinoco_cs 4352 1 orinoco 27312 0 [orinoco_cs] hermes 3200 0 [orinoco_cs orinoco] af_packet 11616 0 (autoclean) appletalk 18832 0 (autoclean) ipx 15008 0 (autoclean) ds 6384 2 [orinoco_cs] yenta_socket 8368 2 pcmcia_core 37568 0 [orinoco_cs ds yenta_socket] ipv6 124480 -1 (autoclean) iptable_nat 12560 0 (autoclean) (unused) ip_conntrack 12656 1 (autoclean) [iptable_nat] iptable_filter 1728 0 (autoclean) (unused) ip_tables 10304 4 [iptable_nat iptable_filter] Suggestions? -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gimp Print/stp -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

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T&G guotes
by doug waud 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Hi I liked the following two quotes in today's (4/1/02) Telegram and Gazette (page A8) "Microsoft bids to acquire Catholic Church" and "Microsoft exploding an underground nuclear device" doug

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RE: [Wlug] T&G guotes
by Keller, Tim 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Well, the first one I could actually conceive of... You figure, if they acquire the catholic church they'd just decree that as of baptism you signed the EULA (sorta like opening the package means you agree to the terms (that are on the slip of paper inside the package..)) since the EULA basically means microsoft could set off a nuclear device and get away with it, they'd have no problem proving in court that the church isn't responsible for faulty prietware. As for the nuclear device, If its a microsoft nuclear device I can see the following things happening... 1. Needs repeated reboots before exploding. 2. The trigger will need to have a service pack installed. 3. You'll need to buy MSND 1.5 to get the newest features (like exploding) 4. You'll need to have IE installed along with the latest direct X drivers. 5. before exploding you'll need to get a MSND registration number and enter it in binary using a telegraph pad. 6. "Explode" and "Disarm" will be the same button... Just some thoughts... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: doug waud [mailto:douglas.waud@umassmed.edu] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:36 AM To: wlug Subject: [Wlug] T&G guotes Hi I liked the following two quotes in today's (4/1/02) Telegram and Gazette (page A8) "Microsoft bids to acquire Catholic Church" and "Microsoft exploding an underground nuclear device" doug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Humorous signature file...
by Stephen C. Daukas 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

Came across this one in a newsgroup: (The first day Microsoft produces something that doesn't suck will be the day they start making vacuum-cleaners) Steve

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Request from academic researcher -- follow up
by Utpal M. Dholakia 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

Dear Linux User Group Moderator: I am a faculty member in the Jones school of management at Rice University in Houston, Texas (this may be verified using a Google search with "Paul Dholakia", or "Utpal Dholakia"). We are conducting an academic research project, studying social interactions online, and how communities organized around products or brands are formed, from a sociological perspective. In this regard, LINUX user groups and mailing lists provide a wonderful context to study these sociological issues. We are conducting a survey of members of LINUX user groups/ mailing lists seeking information on different elements of their thoughts, feelings, and motivations of participating in such groups, and the value of the group to them... The survey is available on the web at the following URL: http://www.surveypro.com/cgi-bin/surveypro/run_survey.cgi?id=2444 Of course, this research is strictly academic, and has no commercial links or interests whatsoever. We hope to publish this research in a sociology journal. As a small token of our appreciation for participants' time, and in the spirit of the philosophy underlying the open-source movement, we will donate $500 total to the five favorite organizations/ groups of our participants' choice (we ask the participant's to nominate their favorite groups in the survey). I am writing to seek your help in conducting this research, first through participating, and second, through encouraging your user group members to participate in the research.. This will not take more than ten minutes of your (and their time). Broad participation will increase the validity and generalizability of our findings, making the research more useful. We welcome all help, and look forward to hearing from you. Best wishes, Paul Dholakia Assistant Professor Rice University http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~dholakia

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Win4Lin
by Skip Gaede 28 Mar '02

28 Mar '02

Folks, This is not a commercial endorsement. I just installed Win4Lin, the product that lets you run Windows under Linux, and, for those occasions when you need Windows, it's very nice. Performance is decent, and there are only a few enhancements needed: 1) Max memory supported for Windows is 64 MB 2) Only supports serial, parallel, and virtual NIC (no scanners, USB) 3) No DirectX yet They're working on adding those goodies. But I can run Photo-Paint, TurboTax, some Windows-based Bible software packages, ... all without multibooting. At $80.00, that's not a bad price to pay. --Skip

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SCSI error message
by Bill Mills-Curran 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

I added a 2nd disk to my linux box, and I'm getting these messages at boot. (I'm not 100% sure they are new messages, because it's been a long time since I've booted.) Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00 Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:08.0 Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) <Adaptec AIC-7880 Ultra SCSI host adapter> found at PCI 0/8/0 Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) Wide Channel, SCSI ID=7, 16/255 SCBs Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) Warning - detected auto-termination Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) Please verify driver detected settings are correct. Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) If not, then please properly set the device termination Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) in the Adaptec SCSI BIOS by hitting CTRL-A when prompted Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) during machine bootup. Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) Cables present (Int-50 YES, Int-68 YES, Ext-68 YES) Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) Illegal cable configuration!! Only two Mar 25 09:28:33 pent584 kernel: (scsi0) connectors on the SCSI controller may be in use at a time! Other than these messages, the disk seems to be working fine. I've tried different termination settings on the disk, but nothing has helped. There is a terminator on the scsi cable, and I did not change it. Any ideas? Thanks, Bill

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