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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat 6.2
by Sudhaker P 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Hi Marc, Thanks for the reply. I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its on the server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- server seems to be broken. I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any kind of information with the help of which I can fix the issue of broken X-windows. Thanks, Peram >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs inredhat 6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it look >more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? If so, when >you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable correctly? Does the >server process have access to the Xserver? > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? Without a >running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical operations, even if those >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue that a >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run Xvfb ... >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver to play >with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs inredhat 6.2 > > >Hi, >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is looking >for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of X-windows. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphs in redhat 6.2 > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > >Hi Karl, > >Thanks a lot for the response. > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log > >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > at > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) > > at > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknown > >Source) > > at > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) > > at > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) > > at > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs could > >be > >the reason and X might be broken. > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >>of > >>graphs in redhat 6.2 > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > >> > >> > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > >> > >>Get any errors on your command line? > >> > >> > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify > >>that it is the kernel? > >> > >> > >> > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > >> > >> > Hi , > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same > >>program is > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but > >> > it > >>fails > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on > >> > which it > >>used > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > >> > something > >>may > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't > >> > seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in > >> > this issue with your comments and suggestions. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > > >> > Peram > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wlug mailing list > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > > >> > >>-- > >> > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > >>Cell: 508-517-4819 > >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > >> > >>Confirmed bachelor: > >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Wlug mailing list > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! 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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat 6.2
by Marc Hughes 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it look more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? If so, when you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable correctly? Does the server process have access to the Xserver? If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? Without a running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical operations, even if those operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue that a whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run Xvfb ... It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver to play with, and never displays the results of those programs. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 Hi, With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of X-windows. Thanks, Peram >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphs in redhat 6.2 >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > >Hi Karl, >Thanks a lot for the response. >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > at >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) > at >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknown >Source) > at >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) > at >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) > at >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs could >be >the reason and X might be broken. > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >>of >>graphs in redhat 6.2 >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) >> >> >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? >> >>Get any errors on your command line? >> >> >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify >>that it is the kernel? >> >> >> >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: >> >> > Hi , >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same >>program is >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but >> > it >>fails >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on >> > which it >>used >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that >> > something >>may >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't >> > seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in >> > this issue with your comments and suggestions. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Peram >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> >>-- >> >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 >>Cell: 508-517-4819 >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø >> >>Confirmed bachelor: >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs in redhat 6.2
by Sudhaker P 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Hi, With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of X-windows. Thanks, Peram >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs in redhat 6.2 >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > >Hi Karl, >Thanks a lot for the response. >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > at >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) > at >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknown >Source) > at >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) > at >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) > at >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs could be >the reason and X might be broken. > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to install. >I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >>graphs in redhat 6.2 >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) >> >> >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? >> >>Get any errors on your command line? >> >> >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify >>that it is the kernel? >> >> >> >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: >> >> > Hi , >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same >>program is >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but it >>fails >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on which it >>used >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that something >>may >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't seem to >> > help. >> > I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in this issue with your >> > comments and suggestions. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Peram >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> >>-- >> >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 >>Cell: 508-517-4819 >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø >> >>Confirmed bachelor: >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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by reavey 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

I'm a new member. I'm an elem. librarian in NE, Pa. near Binghamton,ny I just got approval and installed a linux box in our library to run a couple of demo programs worldwatch clock simulator and kstars. In screen saver I now run phosphores, which I have written text for using echo and printf in a bash shell. I would like to use noseguy but don't understand how it works?? I have read it likes to run fortunes, and yet when I use either the text files or .dat it won't read.Permission denial, chmod 777== can't execute binary?? Regular text files are not parsed and it deadlocks. What do you think? Should I write a program in python to parse a text file(out of my ken). There is probably something stupid I can't see TIA Re-v

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Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs in redhat 6.2
by Sudhaker P 29 Oct '02

29 Oct '02

Hi Karl, Thanks a lot for the response. I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) at java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) at com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknown Source) at jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) at weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) at weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs could be the reason and X might be broken. In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. Thanks, Peram >From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs in redhat 6.2 >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > > >are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > >Get any errors on your command line? > > >Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify >that it is the kernel? > > > >On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > > > Hi , > > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same >program is > > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but it >fails > > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on which it >used > > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that something >may > > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't seem to > > help. > > I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in this issue with your > > comments and suggestions. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >-- > >€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø >Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> >Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 >Cell: 508-517-4819 >Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ >Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ >Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ >KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ >AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto >€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > >Confirmed bachelor: > A man who goes through life without a hitch. > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp

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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of g raphs in redhat 6.2
by Keller, Tim 29 Oct '02

29 Oct '02

Peram, I'll ask an obvious question... You've verified that both machines running the same version of the java run time environment? Also, does the entire applet fail or does it just fail to display the graph. If so, you might have to insert some code to catch exceptions... Possibly some library has gotten mangled... Hope that helps, Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 14:35 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 Hi , I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same program is able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but it fails to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on which it used to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that something may broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in this issue with your comments and suggestions. Thanks, Peram _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs in redhat 6.2
by Sudhaker P 29 Oct '02

29 Oct '02

Hi , I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same program is able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but it fails to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on which it used to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that something may broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in this issue with your comments and suggestions. Thanks, Peram _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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by Joel Desrochers 29 Oct '02

29 Oct '02

Me thinks someone in the group is trolling. _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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RE: [Wlug] Linux
by Keller, Tim 28 Oct '02

28 Oct '02

Setag Lib, Microsoft linux is very very good. I use it all the time, though I find I keep getting "SEG_HATESELF" errors all the time. I'd be very interested in helping you get those diamonds out of your country! I am part of the non profit group "Wereever Others are Oppressed, Keep Intacted Entegrity" a.k.a. "WOOKIE". Currently we are in a grievous plight and need your help so we can help people whereever they are being oppressed, like the Galactic Senate. Thanks, Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Setag Lib [mailto:bsetag@wpidalamar.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:30 PM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Linux Hi to you Andy too! Thank you for fast reply. I actually already got Microsoft Linux installed! It was very easy I am still having some questions though. I can't get on the internet, what is wrong? My Digital camera does not work either, why not? Also, now that we are such good friends, I would like to tell you about my late father who has recently died in Nigeria. If you are interested in helping my family get a chest of diamonds out of the country, I would be willing to make it worth your while. Thank you again! Setag P.S. This seemed a lot funnier shortly after the last wlug meeting. I guess it lost a bit when it got held up by the non-subscribed email thing. Of course if you still think Setag Lib (read it backwards) is real ... please send your bank account information so I can proceed with those diamonds. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Double Double Messages Messages
by Keller, Tim 28 Oct '02

28 Oct '02

I was, so I unsubscribed myself and re joined the list and it solved the problem. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Keith Wright [mailto:kwright@gis.net] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:35 PM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Double Double Messages Messages Is anybody else getting two copies of all the Wlug messages? _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Looking for networking information
by Hemstreet, Jeffrey 28 Oct '02

28 Oct '02

Here are some good informational websites on networking and linux... Good Linux-on-a-floppy for a router ( I use this one ) and some information on networking: http://www.coyotelinux.com/ Good networking information: (Da LAN Tech) http://www.dalantech.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=networking&Numbe r=33059&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1 http://www.dalantech.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=networking&Numbe r=30822&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1 There are many other networking articles and how-to's out there these can get you started. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Pierce Barnard [mailto:pcbarnard@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 8:46 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Looking for networking information Hi, I recently acquired another pc and I want to incorporate it into my home network. Does anyone know of a website that has information on how to install and operate a windows based pc on a network? And I am looking for more information on networking in general. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Linux
by Setag Lib 28 Oct '02

28 Oct '02

Hi to you Andy too! Thank you for fast reply. I actually already got Microsoft Linux installed! It was very easy I am still having some questions though. I can't get on the internet, what is wrong? My Digital camera does not work either, why not? Also, now that we are such good friends, I would like to tell you about my late father who has recently died in Nigeria. If you are interested in helping my family get a chest of diamonds out of the country, I would be willing to make it worth your while. Thank you again! Setag P.S. This seemed a lot funnier shortly after the last wlug meeting. I guess it lost a bit when it got held up by the non-subscribed email thing. Of course if you still think Setag Lib (read it backwards) is real ... please send your bank account information so I can proceed with those diamonds.

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Linux
by Setag Lib 28 Oct '02

28 Oct '02

I hear linux is very good. Is this true? Where can I buy it? What is difference between RedHat and Linux? Regards, Setag

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Double Double Messages Messages
by Keith Wright 28 Oct '02

28 Oct '02

Is anybody else getting two copies of all the Wlug messages?

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Building RH7.3 server after 7.0 hacked
by Richard Goodman 28 Oct '02

28 Oct '02

As some of you may recall from a mid-week email, two of my RH7.0 servers were badly hacked Tuesday about 5AM, and I lost ssh and think I received a trojan. Friday the hacking got worse - all outgoing mail was rejected as "relaying denied", so I decided to bite the bullet and format the drive and build a new server. This was made more interesting by the fact the RH7.3 wouldn't finish loading packages until I disconnected my second HD which previously held /var, and my web sites (tried 3-4 times) .. "Kernel unable to reread partition table on /tmp/hdc (device or resource busy)", then hung mid-package loading. Late Saturday afternoon I pulled the plug, and started a RH7.3 install. Midmorning I was done, including security patches and had no internet connection .. couldn't even ping from the server. Fortunately, it was just my ISP picking this time to be down for the first time in months. Now I have one remaining problem which over 8 hours of work has clarified, but not solved. For background, I have the just rebuilt RH7.3 server (A), and two other recently built RH7.3 servers (B) and (C) at a different location and each with its own static IP#, all running sendmail for one or several domains From A - incoming mail seems to be fine From A - I can send mail locally to several domain names that are on the A server From A - I can send email (such as this) out into the world Through A - I have several email addresses which are accessed by others from outside and send mail to another outside address in virtusertable or to an alias which is a list of outside addresses, and these are working From A - I cannot send mail to any of the domains at B or C When I try, I get this on the A sendmail log: Oct 27 19:02:56 bach sendmail[3693]: g9S02uO03693: from=<dick(a)goodman1.net>, size=316, class=0, nrcp ts=1, msgid=<p04310101b9e23f71eb3e(a)[192.168.1.9]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=host9.goodman1.net [192.168.1.9] Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S02uO03693: SYSERR(root): 11harvard.com. config error: mail l oops back to me (MX problem?) Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S02uO03693: to=<r.goodman(a)11harvard.com>, ctladdr=<dick@goodm an1.net> (503/503), delay=00:00:06, xdelay=00:00:06, mailer=esmtp, pri=30316, relay=11harvard.com. [ 66.92.78.250], dsn=5.3.5, stat=Local configuration error Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S02uO03693: g9S032O03695: DSN: Local configuration error Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S032O03695: to=<dick(a)goodman1.net>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00 :00:00, mailer=local, pri=60416, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S032O03695: to=root, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer= local, pri=60416, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent and this on the B or C sendmail log: Oct 27 19:03:47 boron sendmail[8627]: NOQUEUE: goodman1.net [207.224.28.49] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/ VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA The part about an MX loop seems similar to what I used to get when I first started using sendmail and would forget to configure /etc/mail/local-host-names, but this file, and access and virtusertable on (A) were backed up before the format and restored - and a make done to regenerate the db files. Here's a sample of the bounce message I get, just to be complete: From MAILER-DAEMON(a)localhost.localdomain Sun Oct 27 19:03:02 2002 Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON(a)localhost.localdomain> Received: from localhost (localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g9S032O03695; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:03:02 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:03:02 -0500 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON(a)localhost.localdomain> Message-Id: <200210280003.g9S032O03695(a)localhost.localdomain> To: postmaster(a)localhost.localdomain To: <dick(a)goodman1.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain" Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain The original message was received at Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:02:56 -0500 from host9.goodman1.net [192.168.1.9] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <r.goodman(a)11harvard.com> (reason: 553 5.3.5 system config error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 553 5.3.5 11harvard.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) 554 5.3.5 Local configuration error --g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain Received-From-MTA: DNS; host9.goodman1.net Arrival-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:02:56 -0500 Final-Recipient: RFC822; r.goodman(a)11harvard.com Action: failed Status: 5.3.5 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 553 5.3.5 system config error Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:03:02 -0500 --g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: <dick(a)goodman1.net> Received: from [192.168.1.9] (host9.goodman1.net [192.168.1.9]) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S02uO03693 for <r.goodman(a)11harvard.com>; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:02:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: dick(a)pop.goodman1.net Message-Id: <p04310101b9e23f71eb3e(a)[192.168.1.9]> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:13:10 -0500 To: r.goodman(a)11harvard.com From: Richard Goodman <dick(a)goodman1.net> Subject: Test #3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" --------------------- Does anyone have any ideas, or requests for more information? I'm not doing too well after about 24 hours, and I'd really like to solve this mystery. Dick

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Looking for networking information
by Pierce Barnard 27 Oct '02

27 Oct '02

Hi, I recently acquired another pc and I want to incorporate it into my home network. Does anyone know of a website that has information on how to install and operate a windows based pc on a network? And I am looking for more information on networking in general.

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DHCPCD and ADSL modem
by Stéphane Purnelle 26 Oct '02

26 Oct '02

Hello, I have a ADSL modem. This modem containa DHCP server that I use. In my computer, I have dhcp client daemon (dhcpcd). The parameter of dhcp server is juste lease-time and IP adresse, but I would like to set a name of my computer and kown the name and IP adresse of other computer. If I configure a DDNS for make it, it's not a problem. How-to configure a DDNS updatefrom a dhcp server not configurable ? Thanks !

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RE: [Wlug] Installfest
by Michael Long 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

I have successfully booted into windows but found some interesting behaviors along the way. It appears that I must have swapped the hard drives at some point. The latest OS resides on hda1. Using YaST2 I added another boot definition pointing to windows on hdb1. FYI...YaST behaves differently when launched from within X than when launched from a shell with no X. After rebooting I get the lilo prompt to select an OS. I select windows and am then presented another lilo prompt (SuSE 7.0?) to select an OS. After choosing windows a second time, windows is successfully launched. This accomplishes what I need...but it would be nice to understand what is happening so I could get rid of the second OS prompt. Obviously I have done several installs on my system onto different drives. I have read the man page for lilo.conf and understood only a fraction of what it was trying to tell me. Can someone point me to some other resources that will help me to understand what is happening during the boot process? Thanks > Mike, > > You're almost home free. Take a gander at /etc/lilo.conf. You should see an > entry in there for booting windows and a timeout value. You should be able > to edit the file and install the changes by running lilo. > > Try man lilo for help. If still stuck, post your lilo.conf file... >

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BTW
by jeff 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

howdy cats... i must apologize for my lack of attendance to the install fun. sheesh. life is throwing me a bucket of hell lately and i gotta move out of my apartment by the end of next week - thus, i've been quite busy. if there is anyone who would still like a copy of something new (ala debian, gentoo, mandrake) all you gotta do is drop me a line. i have plenty of extra cd's and all i ask in return is that you give me some blanks. peace guys. -jeff btw, if i haven't mentioned it already, the new debian is really slick. tight and stable. that's a biased opinion. :-)

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RE: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium
by Keller, Tim 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

The problem I see is when you go out and buy a PC, blowout the partitions that have "longhorn" (MS's next OS) and install linux, reboot the machine and get this error at the POST screen: "TCPA Error: BOOT DEVICE DOES NOT CONTAIN VALID BOOT KEY" I don't see the people building the whole DRM infrastructure giving out details on how to change keys since their whole authentication infrastructure is based around the idea that every machine has a unique key so they can track things on a PC by PC basis. In their view, the idea of installing an operating system that doesn't have DRM built into it at the kernel level is an unacceptable option. The only way for DRM to be effective is to have a say in every action on your machine. Start an application and "DRM" verifies that the application is allowed to run on the machine. Insert a piece of media and "DRM" verifies that your allowed to access it. Go to a particular website and "DRM" decides if your allowed to access said website... On the privacy side of this, what's to keep the whole infrastructure from also keeping detailed info on what apps/media/peripheral/websites you access. Yeah, you could opt out of it, but by not opting in, your PC becomes utterly crippled, unable to play DVD's (since it can't verify authenticity), unable to run verified apps, etc... I see all kinds of other very onerous privacy issues with this... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Gary Hanley [mailto:gary@hanley.net] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 21:53 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rja14/tcpa-faq.html > Thoughts? Should we boycot? Boycott what? We run Linux. :-) The best thing you can do is make your local politicians aware of your opinion on the matter. Also, consider joining: www.eff.org -- Gary _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] backup recomendation
by Michael Long 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

I have a backup script that uses tar to back up files to disk. It does a full backup monthly, full backup weekly(file recycled monthly), incremental backups daily(file recycled weekly). I would be happy to send it to you if you would like. --mike > > I've used BRU in the past. I'm not that excited about it. It seems > bascly to be a GUI front end to TAR Most backup utils seem to be > geared towards tapes. Since i'm backing up to hard drives its a > littele different. > > I'm still expermenting with my custom tar scripts, thanks for the > suggestions tho. > > > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Andy Stewart wrote: > > > On Thursday 24 October 2002 9:55 am, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > > What do people out there use for backup tools. Anyone use Amanda? > > > Any good? > > > > HI Karl, > > > > I use BRU at home for my backups on my SCSI TR5 tape drive and it works great. > > It is a commercial product and you can find more info here: > > > > http://www.tolisgroup.com/ > > > > Also, for a while I used Arkeia which seems to be more for professional > > environments and not for home users. It is also a commercial product. You > > can find more info here: > > > > http://www.arkeia.com/ > > > > Later, > > > > Andy > > > > > > -- > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > Cell: 508-517-4819 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > "People should have access to the data which you have about them. There should > be a process for them to challenge any inaccuracies." > -- Arthur Miller > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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RE: [Wlug] backup recomendation
by Marc Hughes 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

I just started using arkeia the other day, and I'm rather impressed so far. They give you a 2 client license of version 4.2 for free (so you can backup the server, and 2 linux or windows clients) if you're using a linux backup server. You can make backups to tape or disk with it. Plus it has a little bit of eye candy; while backups are running, you can log in with the gui client (java client that works on a bunch of platforms) and see the speed at which the backups are running in a speedometer style display ... Hey, what can I say, I like pretty things :) I'm not sure if this is feasible at all, but could you use software raid and mirror your normal disk to the removeable one? Just a wacky solution that I thought of when someone mentioned LVM ... -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 12:04 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] backup recomendation On Thursday 24 October 2002 9:55 am, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > What do people out there use for backup tools. Anyone use Amanda? Any > good? HI Karl, I use BRU at home for my backups on my SCSI TR5 tape drive and it works great. It is a commercial product and you can find more info here: http://www.tolisgroup.com/ Also, for a while I used Arkeia which seems to be more for professional environments and not for home users. It is also a commercial product. You can find more info here: http://www.arkeia.com/ Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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backup recomendation
by Karl Hiramoto 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

What do people out there use for backup tools. Anyone use Amanda? Any good? My situation is I have three servers I wish to backup. The total amount of data to be backup'd is 40GB. I wish to do weekly or monthly full backups with daily incremental. Plan A: Monthly Level 0, weekly Level 1, daily Level 2 Plan B: Weekly Level 0, daily Level 1 Plan C: Monthly Level 0, weekly level 0, daily level 1 Then every month I'd like to take one of the full backups and put it away for long term storage. My backup media is a 120GB IDE disks in a removable drive trays. Take them home for off site storage. One thing I'm trying now is: rsync the three servers to the local 120 GB disk. From local disk create tar files. Bad part about it is I have to store an extra 40GB on the disk of local copies of the servers. I can't just tar over NFS, because the files on the server may be changing as the tar is created. Tar bitches when that happens. My optimal solution: keep all files on the servers. Possibly use a small local scratch area(1 G or so). Create local backups and store them to the 120GB removable disk. I would like to use free software if possible. Any suggestions? -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø This is now. Later is later.

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RE: [Wlug] What's the tally for the installfest???
by Marc Hughes 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

In case no one shows, do we want to plan something? A while back we did a distribution bake-off. Since we'll have the facilities, and probably a few computers, we could do something like that again? -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:41 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] What's the tally for the installfest??? On Wednesday 23 October 2002 1:26 pm, Keller, Tim wrote: > Do we have a rough idea of how many people are going to be in > attendance for the installfest? > > Later, > Tim. I have received ZERO e-mail about this so far. I plan to be there so I hope some folks come out of the woodwork. Later, Andy (who just returned from California yesterday evening) -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Installfest
by Michael Long 24 Oct '02

24 Oct '02

Thanks to everyone for all the help. I was afraid I would have to drag my computer to Worcester tonight to get this done. Instead I will arrive without it. Since I have not learned how to do x-forwarding with ssh yet, I will have to wait until later tonight to actually attempt this. --mike ps. This just goes to show you can make great progress with a little heresy ;) > Mike, > > You're almost home free. Take a gander at /etc/lilo.conf. You should see an > entry in there for booting windows and a timeout value. You should be able > to edit the file and install the changes by running lilo. > > Try man lilo for help. If still stuck, post your lilo.conf file... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On > > Behalf Of Michael Long > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:22 PM > > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Subject: RE: [Wlug] Installfest > > > > > > I did not rejumper the drives. I believe I told SuSE to use the second > > drive and ignore the first. I may be wrong about this since it was > > awhile ago that I did the initial install. I do know that I > > am not asked > > whether or not to boot windows. Yast2 does have the ability to modify > > lilo. This is either not stable or allows the users to screw > > up because > > Yast2 appears to be locked on my laptop after going into the > > configuration tool :( > > > > Normally I would reject the idea of switching to Grub at this > > point but > > since SuSE 8.x is using it I am willing to entertain the idea. Being > > that I am primarely a database/web developer and not a linux > > programmer > > how will Grub enhance my linux experiance? > > > > mike > > > > > Absolutely! I'm guessing you rejumpered the drives to make > > the second > > drive > > > the primary. I'd recommend using grub as your boot loader. > > You can install > > > it in the MBR of the drive that has Windows on it, rejumper the > > drives, and > > > simply change /etc/mtab to reflect the new state of the world. > > > > > > Grub is nice, in that it allows you to tweak your boot "ini" file > > during the > > > boot process in case you made a mistake. Check out the HOWTOs at > > > www.tldp.org on how to setup dual boot. > > > > > > --Skip > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On > > > > Behalf Of Michael Long > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:34 PM > > > > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Installfest > > > > > > > > > > > > I neglected to mention one little detail. When I bought the > > > > computer it > > > > came with windows98 installed one harddrive and a second > > unformatted > > > > drive. I did a new install of SuSE onto the second harddrive. This > > > > effectively made windows unavailable. I have not done > > anything to the > > > > first drive other than mount it as a fat partition. Would it > > > > be possible > > > > to resurrect this windows installation and have it live in > > > > harmony with > > > > my current installation of SuSE? > > > > > > > > mike > > > > > > > > > Yes, well, I'm a Pastor at a conservative church that > > think doctrine > > > > matters; > > > > > so naturally everyone thinks I'm a heretic. It's nice > > to pass the > > > > buck once > > > > > in a while ;-) > > > > > > > > > > I don't know suse from a hole in the wall, so beyond editing > > > > /etc/lilo.conf > > > > > by hand and running lilo as root I can't help you. But it > > > > seems to me > > > > that > > > > > yast should have something in it's workings to edit the > > > > boot config. > > > > Let me > > > > > just say that I would be utterly shocked if it didn't. > > > > > > > > > > Other than that, since you're a newbie, you may want to backup > > > > lilo.conf via: > > > > > > > > > > mv lilo.conf lilo.backup > > > > > > > > > > and then read the man page on lilo.conf: > > > > > > > > > > man lilo.conf > > > > > > > > > > to edit your boot configuration by hand. Just remember if > > > > you go this > > > > way > > > > > you'll have to run "lilo" to get the updated configuration > > > > installed. > > > > > > > > > > Also, if you're going to install win98, MAKE SURE YOU > > HAVE A BOOT > > > > DISK. Win98 > > > > > will OVER-WRITE your mbr and lilo will be GONE. What you'l > > > > have to do is > > > > > after win98 is installed boot from your boot disk and > > run "lilo" as > > > > root in > > > > > the shell. That'll reinstall lilo on the master boot record. > > > > > > > > > > Anything I'm missing gang? > > > > > > > > > > Wes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday 24 October 2002 12:17 pm, Michael Long wrote: > > > > > > It is not easy being a heretic scum but someone has > > to do it... :) > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using SuSE 7.3 and would like to install windblows > > > > 98. I don't have > > > > > > 2000 and NT does not support usb. > > > > > > > > > > > > mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > DIE, DIE, HERETIC SCUM! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, now that I've got that out of my system ;-) > > > > what distro are you > > > > > > > > > > > > using? I > > > > > > > > > > > > > know that Mandrake has a lilo conf tool that will > > > > basically do it for > > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wlug mailing list > > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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