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Lan party ideas...
by Keller, Tim Dec. 3, 2002

Dec. 3, 2002

Hey All, So after reading Andy's email, it got me thinking about the whole installfest/lan party thing... and I'd like some input. 1. Do the members of WLUG think a lan party is a possible thing? 2. How many people do you think we could get to attend? 2a. How many people would we want to attend? At a certain point, if 200 people show up, it could get ugly... 3. Where and When could we hold such a shindig? Would this be something that the support staff at WPI would even entertain as an idea? Or, should we look else were... such as a VFW or some such place... 4. Should we have a link to the outside world, or should it just be an isolated LAN? 5. Time Frame... 6. What should we charge people (if anything) to attend? 7. Activities? This is where I want some broad input. Other than the obligatory FPS/RTS games, what other games or "stuff" would people like to see? I know Andy had mentioned a security demo... How about a clustering demo... Let me know what your ideas are... Thanks, Tim.

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more alphabet soup :-(
by doug waud Dec. 2, 2002

Dec. 2, 2002

Hi again Just got the latest PC Magazine and I note that my table of CD/DVD acronyms (plagarized from PC World) is already out of date. :-) Now we have CD-MRW where the M refers to Mount Ranier. Although "there have been no specific announcements of DVD+MRW drives yet, Phillips recently proposed an addition ... The Sony DRU-500A apparently ships with Mount Ranier. (The Mount Ranier format put a Main defect table in the Lead-in area (area outside the data area) and a copy of the defect table in the lead-out area.It also sets aside some space in the data area as a "replacement area" where date which would have landed in a bad block is put. The price is somewhat slower reads/writes and slightly reduced capacity. The gain is reliability. Non-MRW drives will need custom software to read MRW data.) doug

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Meeting topics...
by Joel Desrochers Dec. 2, 2002

Dec. 2, 2002

I have started coming recently and I am very happy with the meeting format and content. I would be very interested in the security-type Linux discussions and demos, including related product demos and breakin & fixit seminars. I had a family emergency this past week which kept me away in November. I already know that a must-attend company Christmas party will keep me from the December meeting. I am looking forward to the January meeting, Joel Desrochers _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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RE: DVD writer
by Scott Prive Dec. 2, 2002

Dec. 2, 2002

This drive (Sony) currently is not 100% supported by the dvdrtools package. The DVD+R and +RW portion works, but not the -R -RW. The authors of dvdrtools have not yet added support or figured out the firmware (specs? what specs?) The "dash" formats for this drive *may* burn from the non-free dvdrecord-pro package (same author as cdrecord). I saw one report of success. If you're looking for a DVD recorder for Linux, the Pioneer DVR-XXX line is the best supported (I have a DVR-104 which is the OEM ver of DVR-A04). These are DVD-R/-RW burners, with the -105 model now supporting 4X DVD-R. For backups you won't care about DVD-R's greater compatability with DVD-Video... but you might care about greater compatability with DVD-ROM readers (you wouldn't want to restore from the burner as the read speed won't match a speedy ROM drive like Pioneer DVD-117). The other benefit to -R/-RW is media price: the "dash" formats typically cost half what the "plus" formats. I pay 60 cents each for a 100-DVD spindle from Meritline. > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert L Krawitz [mailto:rlk@alum.mit.edu] > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:23 PM > To: discuss(a)blu.org; wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: DVD writer > > > I'm thinking of getting a DVD writer. My primary intention is to use > it for system backups; CD's just don't cut it any more (with about 18 > GB and 11 GB respectively on my two systems). The Sony DRU-500A looks > like a rather interesting one, supporting a lot of formats. Any > comments on that vs. any of the others out there? This is for a pure > Linux system. > > -- > Robert Krawitz > <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> > > Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 > Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net > Project lead for Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net > > "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." > --Eric Crampton > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss(a)blu.org > http://www.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >

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Finally, Linux With a Lot Less Fuss
by Karl Hiramoto Dec. 2, 2002

Dec. 2, 2002

Good article in the washington post http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48924-2002Nov27.html By Rob Pegoraro Sunday, December 1, 2002; Page H07 Over the past few weeks, I've installed Linux on three computers without breaking into fits of cursing. That's a novel development in my experience with this open-source operating system. The version I've been using is Red Hat Linux 8.0, shipped by Raleigh, N.C.-based Red Hat in late September. This is the first Linux distribution I've tried that hasn't made me feel as if I'm about to step on a rake and have its handle swing into my face. Parts of this are still infuriatingly convoluted, but if you've been thinking about trying out Linux on part of your hard drive -- or about dumping Windows entirely -- this is what I'd recommend. Why would you want to do that? One, Linux is cheap or free -- your choice. The personal edition of Red Hat 8 sells for $40 in stores, or you can download three CDs' worth at no charge (www.redhat.com) Nearly all Linux programs are also free to use. Two, Linux is free in another way: "Open source" means anybody can look at a program's code and tinker with it. Three, if you are inclined to tinker and try out new programs, Linux can be an interesting place. It's one of the most customizable operating systems, and quite a few Linux development projects -- for example, DVD playback -- seem to be hitting their stride. Four, while Linux has plenty of bugs and security issues, it is virus-free compared with Windows. All these qualities come with trade-offs, the big one being an often agonizing inscrutability. Red Hat 8 doesn't abolish these shortcomings but does bring them to a more manageable level. Its installation is quick and clean. Notwithstanding a clumsy disk-setup module (either partition your hard drive with another program or be prepared to wipe it clean), you can blithely go with the default settings and have a working desktop in less than 45 minutes. That includes functioning audio and video hardware, something beyond my reach in earlier Linux experiments. On each of three test PCs -- an old IBM desktop, a moderately recent IBM ThinkPad T21 and a brand-new Hewlett-Packard Media Center PC -- Red Hat 8 automatically and correctly set up the sound and graphics cards. It then accepted a digital-subscriber-line or office-network connection with no more configuration than Windows would require, and with the proper firewall protection enabled by default. A modem connection, unfortunately but predictably, was out of the question. Most PCs' internal modems require some fairly complicated, proprietary Windows software to function, and many manufacturers don't offer Linux versions of this software or documentation that would let other programmers handle the job. Red Hat 8 also couldn't do anything with the USB 2.0 ports on the HP, although it's supposed to support them. Red Hat 8's biggest departure from Linux convention is in its look. The company replaced the usual Linux front end with its own streamlined "Bluecurve" interface, which looks vaguely like Windows XP scrubbed of the neon colors. It also swept the system task bar and menu largely free of redundant or useless extras, although it lacks a simple way to edit the layout of those menus (say, if you'd like to consolidate the five or so system-options entries). Red Hat's software bundle focuses on the basics: the excellent Mozilla Web browser, the OpenOffice productivity suite (which read all of the Microsoft Office files I tried), and Evolution, an application featuring e-mail, an address book and a calendar that feels like a simplified version of Microsoft Outlook. What you won't find, however, is multimedia capability beyond a few image viewers and editors. Red Hat 8 ships without any way to play MP3 files, let alone create them. The company says it's concerned about the MP3 format's licensing requirements, but those issues haven't stopped other Linux distributions from including MP3 software. (Red Hat 8 does support an open-source music format called Ogg Vorbis, but its CD-ripping program isn't set up by default to use it.) MP3 software isn't hard to find and install in the "RPM" download format Red Hat developed, but you have to know where to look. And that's the thing: Red Hat 8 gets enough of the basics right to let you go online without injuring yourself (well, provided you don't need a modem). It could serve somebody well as a basic Web, e-mail and word-processing desktop. But going beyond the basics requires a willingness to learn. For instance, Red Hat 8's included digital-camera program took hours of tweaking before it would intermittently download pictures from a Canon S100 digital camera. I still can't get the Pilot-Link program to work with a Sony Clie handheld, although an upcoming release is supposed to fix that. Non-RPM software installs, which require mastering command-line syntax, are another problem. Sometimes things work out -- copying and pasting the right commands had the ThinkPad playing back a DVD in about half an hour -- and at other times you're stymied by missing or mismatched files. And many add-on programs, unlike Red Hat's core software, come with clumsy, user-hostile interfaces designed by programmers for other programmers. Ultimately, there's no substitute for personal help from a Linux veteran, whether online or in a local user group. All this self-inflicted effort might seem like a big waste of time. Then again, so can cooking, woodworking, collecting baseball cards or many other things people do to amuse themselves, and without getting a working PC in the process. Living with technology, or trying to? E-mail Rob Pegoraro at rob(a)twp.com. -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø I have more hit points that you can possible imagine.

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Let's make WLUG meetings better!
by Andy Stewart Dec. 1, 2002

Dec. 1, 2002

HI everybody, I was a little disappointed at the turnout from the last WLUG meeting. We had 8 or 9 people show up, and while we did have a good time watching Scott and Doug get a couple of scanners working under Linux, it would have been alot more fun with more people in attendance. I believe this was the lowest attendance we've seen at a WLUG meeting in our 5.5 year history. :-( We discussed possible reasons for the low attendance at the Boynton over a few beers. One suggestion was that I should update the WLUG website to show what we have done at past meetings so people wouldn't think that nothing was accomplished. I've done that and will endeavor to keep that part of the WLUG website current (see "Past Meeting Information"). Another thought was that some people will only come to a meeting if the topic looks interesting to them, and if it is announced well in advance. I must admit to having been somewhat lax in that area lately. Therefore, in an attempt to remedy that (at least for this month), I'm putting out the call now for a speaker and a topic for the Dec. 12th meeting (its coming up fast!). I sent out a list of potential topics last month, but I know that there are a zilliion interesting things happening in the Linux world that could be discussed at a WLUG meeting. The meeting need not be discussion based, either! Although Kinnicutt Hall lends itself well to this type of meeting, we do have access to other rooms on campus. People have tossed out ideas such as these: o build a network for multiplayer Linux games o build a network to see if WLUG crackers can break into your system (not to destroy it, but to teach you what to fix to secure your system) o more live demos! The group exists to meet your needs, so please, state your needs! I can't arrange a meeting to your liking if I get no feedback on what you want to see at future WLUG meetings. More importantly, I'd like to see more and different people volunteer to do the presentations or to run a live demo. If you look back at the last year of WLUG meetings, you'll see the same names many times. While I'm *quite* happy that these folks continue to volunteer, I'd like to see others jump in also. Finally, if anybody has feedback regarding the last meeting and why it lacked attendees, please bring it up on the list so we can all discuss it. Without such candid discussions, WLUG cannot improve. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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DVD writeable media
by Andy Stewart Nov. 29, 2002

Nov. 29, 2002

HI everybody, The message thread about DVD writers makes me think that there are many standards or types of writeable DVD media that not all drives can handle - is this true? Could somebody compare/contrast the different types? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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OT: 6 disc changer + tape deck 4 sale
by Karl Hiramoto Nov. 27, 2002

Nov. 27, 2002

Sorry about the spam... I'm trying to get rid of my old car stereo. * Clarion ARX 5470 Tape Deck o 35 Watts * 4 Ch. (140 Watts) o AM/FM Radio o CD Controller o Detachable Face o CD Changer Controller o RCA Outputs * Clarion 6 Disc CD Changer RDC634 o Model RDC634 o 6 Disc CD Magazine (CAA-355) o Very good Skip protection o 8 X Times oversampling o Digital Filter o Dual 1 Bit DAC http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1871972065&rd… -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Just because everything is different doesn't mean anything has changed. -- Irene Peter

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RE: [Wlug] DVD writeable media
by Keller, Tim Nov. 25, 2002

Nov. 25, 2002

Well the next question is... What do you want todo... The cross post in question wants to backup large amounts of data. I would think a drive that could do DVD-RW or DVD+RW would be their choice since they could setup some sorta rotation. As for supported drives you'd want to check the cdrecord website. Now, if you want to make backups of the DVD's that you own, or convert the VHS you've got into DVD, you'll also want a drive that can author DVD disks. However you'll want to check a site like www.vcdhelper.org they've got a good matrix of what different disks DVD players supports (such as VCD/SVCD/DVD-R/DVD-RW/etc...) Personally I've had luck making backup's of my DVD's onto DVD-R media. However this was using a mix of freeware windows utilities and Nero, I'm pretty sure that that the cdrcord-prodvd utilities it would work fine. Later, Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Brian J. Conway [mailto:bconway@alum.wpi.edu] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 15:36 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] DVD writeable media > The message thread about DVD writers makes me think that there are many > standards or types of writeable DVD media that not all drives can handle > - is this true? Yes, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, and DVD-RAM. Why share sales with a standard format when a company can make up its own DVD standard to sell and hope to take the market with? > Could somebody compare/contrast the different types? Here's a good rundown on the different types: http://www.dvformat.com/2002/03_mar/features/dvd_standards.htm Brian J. Conway bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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DVD writer
by Robert L Krawitz Nov. 24, 2002

Nov. 24, 2002

I'm thinking of getting a DVD writer. My primary intention is to use it for system backups; CD's just don't cut it any more (with about 18 GB and 11 GB respectively on my two systems). The Sony DRU-500A looks like a rather interesting one, supporting a lot of formats. Any comments on that vs. any of the others out there? This is for a pure Linux system. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

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RE: [Wlug] Partition left 7 Gbs!
by dibb_jim＠emc.com Nov. 21, 2002

Nov. 21, 2002

You are probably seeing the difference between 80 * 10^9 representation and 80 * 2^30 representation of GB. An "80 GB" drive usually is seen by an OS as having ~73 GB of space. But without stating why you think so, it's difficult to tell for sure. -----Original Message----- From: Aramico To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: 11/21/02 7:37 AM Subject: [Wlug] Partition left 7 Gbs! Hi all, I've got a Baracuda 7200 RPM 80 Gbs Seagate. I've creating the partition using fdisk on Linux RedHat. Why does it always leave 7 Gbs that not partitioned ? So, Here I have 7 Gbs space useless :( Any idea to solve this ? Thanks, _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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[Fwd: Clarify: GRUB setup on RAID1]
by Brett Russ Nov. 21, 2002

Nov. 21, 2002

Can anyone on this list shed some light on my question below? Thanks, Brett -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Clarify: GRUB setup on RAID1 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:34:03 -0500 From: Brett Russ <icycle(a)charter.net> To: bug-grub(a)gnu.org I looked through all of the archives on this list as well as google searching for help. I want to make sure that GRUB supports installation on RAID1 (mirror) units. I have seen several methods to do this: Method 1) device (hd0) /dev/hde root (hd0,0) install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,0) /boot/grub/stage2 0x8000 (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst install /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) /boot/grub/stage2 0x8000 (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst device (hd0) /dev/hdg root (hd0,0) install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,0) /boot/grub/stage2 0x8000 (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst install /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) /boot/grub/stage2 0x8000 (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst ...and so on for each device--substituting each additional RAID1 member drive in the /dev/hdX line. Method 2) echo '(hd0) /dev/md0' > /boot/grub/device.map grub-install '(hd0)' ...and so on for each (hd#) that is part of the md. Method 3) root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) ...and so on for each hd# present in the RAID1. My question is whether the /dev/hdX syntax or /dev/md# or (hd#) syntax is correct and what the significance of the value 0x8000 for the Stage 2 load address. It certainly seems like method 3 is the cleanest. And, are any of these methods considered better than the others? Thanks, Brett _______________________________________________ Bug-grub mailing list Bug-grub(a)gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-grub

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Sar for Linux
by Adam Keck Nov. 20, 2002

Nov. 20, 2002

Those of you who use Solaris or AIX have access to a system statistics tool, sar. Is there any equivalent tool for Linux? -Adam "lingua machinationis creo, ergo sum" _____________________________________________ Adam Keck The Mathworks 508-647-7298 Natick, Ma www.mathworks.com FreeNIX/Backup/Unix Administrator _____________________________________________

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RE: [Wlug] Sar for Linux
by Keller, Tim Nov. 20, 2002

Nov. 20, 2002

I'm not sure what distro your using, but my Redhat 7.3 box has sar installed. Tim. "It's pretty hard to 'Rage Against The Machine' when you work for the Sony Corporation" -- funny slashdot sig. -----Original Message----- From: Adam Keck [mailto:akeck@mathworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 15:25 PM To: WLUG List Subject: [Wlug] Sar for Linux Those of you who use Solaris or AIX have access to a system statistics tool, sar. Is there any equivalent tool for Linux? -Adam "lingua machinationis creo, ergo sum" _____________________________________________ Adam Keck The Mathworks 508-647-7298 Natick, Ma www.mathworks.com FreeNIX/Backup/Unix Administrator _____________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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REMINDER: Meeting Wed. Nov. 20, 7 PM
by Andy Stewart Nov. 18, 2002

Nov. 18, 2002

HI everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall at WPI in Worcester, MA. I'm open for topics to be discussed at this meeting. Ideally, I'm hoping somebody will volunteer at the last minute to talk to the group about some topic of interest. Surprisingly enough, this happens frequently and works out well when all is said and done, so I'm not in a panic (yet). My only problem with this is that some folks come to a meeting only if the topic is announced in advance and it is of interest to them. So, what do you say, gang? Here are some ideas which I had: a) Does anybody want to demo their scanner under Linux? How about a live install of SANE ? b) Linux software for (grand)kids - I"ve seen TuxPaint and KTuberling, there must be others. Inquiring kids want to know! c) TiVO - doesn't that run Linux? Can you do any interesting hacks to the Linux software that could be demonstrated at our meeting? d) MAME - some guys at work built a MAME machine. Maybe you did, too? Tell us about it, or better yet, bring the machine to the meeting. e) LTSP - this one might be a bit involved if the demo was from scratch, and would involve around 2 or 3 computers to be useful. Does anybody have any experience with this? f) Do you have other ideas? Let the group know what they are! The "live demo" meetings have been well received in the past, especially if some problem crops up during the demo (which makes us demo folks squirm uncomfortably, to the amusement of the audience!). I hope somebody volunteers to speak at the next meeting. It'll be pretty boring otherwise, and nobody wants that to be the case. I've been working flat out for the last couple of months and have no time to prepare anything for ths meeting. If you want to volunteer, send me or the group e-mail ASAP. You'll be glad you did. :-) Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Kevin Mitnick speaking at Marlboro Softpro tonight...
by Keller, Tim Nov. 14, 2002

Nov. 14, 2002

A buddy of mine just let me know that Kevin Mitnick will be speaking at Softpro books in Marlboro @6:30pm. Thought you might find that tidbit a bit interesting... Tim.

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Thanks
by Pierce Barnard Nov. 12, 2002

Nov. 12, 2002

Hi , I just wanted to thank all those who assisted me in getting Samba up and running. Thanks again.

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Re: [Wlug] mounting bsd44 under RedHat
by Peter Gutowski Nov. 11, 2002

Nov. 11, 2002

sorry for the confusion. Here's the corrected snippet: I think you really need to type in 'ufstype=44bsd' and not just '44bsd' so your mount command probably should be: mount -t ufs -o ufstype=bsd44 /dev/hdc1 /hdc1 ( in your linux src directory, see fs/ufs/super.c ) HTH. -pg

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Re: [Wlug] mounting bsd44 under RedHat
by Peter Gutowski Nov. 11, 2002

Nov. 11, 2002

I think you really need to type in 'ufsoption=44bsd' and not just '44bsd' so your mount command probably should be: mount -t ufs -o ufstype=bsd44 /dev/hdc1 /hdc1 ( in your linux src directory, see fs/ufs/super.c ) HTH. -pg On Monday, November 11, 2002 1:45 PM, Christopher B Stank <stanky(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: >Opps! > >When I said bsd44, I actually meant 44bsd. > >Mount options for ufs > ufstype=value > > UFS is a file system widely used in different operating >systems. The problems are differences among implementations. Features of >some implementations are undocumented, so its hard to recognize the type >of ufs automatically. That's why the user must specify the type of ufs by >mount option. Possible values are: > > old Old format of ufs, this is the default, read only. > > 44bsd For filesystems created by a BSD-like system >(NetBSD,FreeBSD,OpenBSD). > >etc. > >Sorry for any confusion! I have also tried it without the -o 44bsd and >get the same error. > >/Chris > > -- Peter Gutowski <peter(a)linuxchamps.com> // tel.: (413) 531-0123 "When in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered." --George Washington, _Rules for Civility and Decent Behavior_

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Re: [Wlug] mounting bsd44 under RedHat
by Peter Gutowski Nov. 11, 2002

Nov. 11, 2002

Sometimes you gotta believe the error message. I've reread the mount man page and I see no reference to bsd44 as being a legal option. Have you tried issuing the command without the '-o bsd44'? On Monday, November 11, 2002 7:19 AM, Christopher B Stank <stanky(a)parrottech.net> wrote: >Greetings All! > >I am having an issue when attempting to mount a bsd44 (a freebsd >partition) under a base install of Redhat 8.0. > >The kernel is 2.4.18-14, and has loaded the ufs f/s module. > >The FAT looks like: > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >/dev/hdc1 * 1 1912 15358108+ a5 FreeBSD >/dev/hdc2 * 1913 8796 55295730 a5 FreeBSD >/dev/hdc3 * 8797 9688 7164990 a5 FreeBSD >/dev/hdc4 * 9689 9731 345397+ a5 FreeBSD > >I have attempted to mount the hdc1 partition as follows: >mount -t ufs -o bsd44 /dev/hdc1 /hdc1 > >and I get the following error: >"mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1, > or too many mounted file systems" > >Does anyone have any insight as to what I am doing wrong! Any help would >be greatly appreciated, as I need to get the data off these FreeBSD >partitions before I format them as EXT3. > >Thanks in advance! >/Chris >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Peter Gutowski <peter(a)linuxchamps.com> // tel.: (413) 531-0123 "When in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered." --George Washington, _Rules for Civility and Decent Behavior_

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mounting bsd44 under RedHat
by Christopher B Stank Nov. 11, 2002

Nov. 11, 2002

Greetings All! I am having an issue when attempting to mount a bsd44 (a freebsd partition) under a base install of Redhat 8.0. The kernel is 2.4.18-14, and has loaded the ufs f/s module. The FAT looks like: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdc1 * 1 1912 15358108+ a5 FreeBSD /dev/hdc2 * 1913 8796 55295730 a5 FreeBSD /dev/hdc3 * 8797 9688 7164990 a5 FreeBSD /dev/hdc4 * 9689 9731 345397+ a5 FreeBSD I have attempted to mount the hdc1 partition as follows: mount -t ufs -o bsd44 /dev/hdc1 /hdc1 and I get the following error: "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1, or too many mounted file systems" Does anyone have any insight as to what I am doing wrong! Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I need to get the data off these FreeBSD partitions before I format them as EXT3. Thanks in advance! /Chris -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Christopher Bruce Stank cstank(a)nortelnetworks.com CES - Sys Test Engineering (978) 288-6185 Nortel Networks (508) 769-9664 (cel) 600 Technology Park (978) 445-5328 (pgr) M/S E65/60/301 (978) 288-4004 (fax) Billerica, MA 01821 248-6185 (esn)

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How to setup Samba
by Pierce Barnard Nov. 11, 2002

Nov. 11, 2002

Hello, I am trying to configure Samba on my Suse Box to share files with my Windows ME box. Is there a webpage or document that I can use to set up Samba?

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RE: [Wlug] Routing problem -can I believe the ISP tech? #2
by Richard Goodman Nov. 9, 2002

Nov. 9, 2002

> > >> Firewall is based on IPChains firewall from Ziegler's book "Linux >> Firewalls" 1st ed, which denies all then allows as needed. I've >> triple-checked the firewall -- the only non-comment changes made were >> all added ACCEPT statements, all cut&pasted from the Home firewall. >> There are no IP-specific denies that I added to the firewall - and I >> haven't updated rc.firewall.blocked in months. > >Sounds like you're further up on Linux firewalling than I am, actually. For >myself, I run a modified Linux Router Project disk image, and let NAT and >Portsentry take care of most of my issues. If you say it's clean, then it >must be clean. Understand though, the techs will NEVER believe this. At ALL. >If you made changes to a firewall and then you couldn't access, it's >Somebody Else's Problem, and that's their professional opinion. (I should >know, I was one. :) ) > Well, the problem was in the firewall, but it doesn't explain EVERYTHING that happened. After two hours on the phone Mon afternoon with Qwest tech support level 2, they insisted I try ping/traceroute with the firewall disabled. Pings moved through as expected ...hmmmm I'd been through the firewall code so many times I just about had it memorized, so I decided to look at the file rc.firewall.blocked which it reads, which has of a list of IPChains statements blocking IP#s (which the main firewall doesn't do). I hadn't really updated this much recently, because when someone started banging on the firewall, it was tough to know if it was a static IP or not. Anyways ... found TWO entries that were <Home IP#>/24 and <Home network>/24 ... basically the same thing. Don't remember putting THOSE in there <g> When I rebuilt the last hacked machine (EFO) I copied rc.firewall and rc.firewall.blocked from the home machine, because I couldn't read the copies I'd backed up from EFO.... so the block against the Home IP was at both ends of the link. The only mystery is why everything worked for two hours Friday night before I reloaded the EFO firewall -- because the rc.firewall.blocked file hadn't been changed in more than a week, and had already been loaded with the firewall when I first brought up the EFO server on Friday. Now if I could get any takers on finding out why none of my servers can send email to each other (but only each other) since they were upgrade from RH7.0 to RH7.3 (sendmail 8.11.6) I'll be all set. [Email to list 10/31] Dick

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RE: [Wlug] Procmail Question
by Marc Hughes Nov. 8, 2002

Nov. 8, 2002

OK, spamassasin looks pretty damned cool ... I love the "reasons" why something is spam. -Marc SPAM: Content analysis details: (8.10 hits, 5 required) SPAM: TO_NO_USER (1.7 points) To: has no local-part before @ sign SPAM: SMTPD_IN_RCVD (1.2 points) Received via SMTPD32 server (SMTPD32-n.n) SPAM: X_PRIORITY_HIGH (0.4 points) Sent with 'X-Priority' set to high SPAM: X_MSMAIL_PRIORITY_HIGH (0.4 points) Sent with 'X-Msmail-Priority' set to high SPAM: USER_AGENT_OE (0.2 points) X-Mailer header indicates a non-spam MUA (Outlook Express) SPAM: ACT_NOW (0.3 points) BODY: Act Now! Don't Hesitate! SPAM: EXCUSE_14 (0.2 points) BODY: Tells you how to stop further spam SPAM: EXCUSE_1 (0.1 points) BODY: Gives an excuse about why you were sent this spam SPAM: SPAM_PHRASE_03_05 (1.1 points) BODY: Spam phrases score is 03 to 05 (medium) SPAM: [score: 3] SPAM: BIG_FONT (0.3 points) BODY: FONT Size +2 and up or 3 and up SPAM: HTML_WITH_BGCOLOR (0.3 points) BODY: HTML mail with non-white background SPAM: HTML_FONT_COLOR_RED (0.3 points) BODY: HTML font color is red SPAM: HTML_50_70 (0.3 points) BODY: Message is 50-70% HTML tags SPAM: HTML_FONT_COLOR_NOHASH (0.2 points) BODY: HTML font color is missing hash ( SPAM: HTML_FONT_COLOR_BLUE (0.2 points) BODY: HTML font color is blue SPAM: MISSING_MIMEOLE (0.5 points) Message has X-MSMail-Priority, but no X-MimeOLE SPAM: CTYPE_JUST_HTML (0.4 points) HTML-only mail, with no text version -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:13 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Procmail Question On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 10:07:37AM -0500, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > :0: > * 1^1 ^From.*jenny(a)axte84\.com > * 1^1 ^Subject.*MILLION OPT-IN EMAIL ADDRESSES > Badspam Oops, slight update: :0: * 1^0 ^From.*jenny(a)axte84\.com * 1^0 ^Subject.*MILLION OPT-IN EMAIL ADDRESSES Badspam I believe they'd be functionally equivilent for you, but the first one keeps looking for matches after the first hit. The second one stops at 1 hit, so it's more efficient. :) There's a nice discussion about this stuff at: http://www.rosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de/mailing-lists/procmail/1998-01/msg0 0335.html :) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "This is a beta release of Red Hat Linux. It is not intended for mission critical applications. It's not even intended for non-mission critical applications. Important data should not be entrusted to Wolverine, as it may eat it and make loud belching noises." - RedHat Beta release "Wolverine"

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RE: [Wlug] Procmail Question
by Marc Hughes Nov. 8, 2002

Nov. 8, 2002

With the locking (:0:) all seems to work now. I'm guessing it's because I have an IMAP connection open to the mailbox while I receive the new email and it get's processed. While we're talking about procmail... A second question: :0: * ^From.*jenny(a)axte84\.com * ^Subject.*MILLION OPT-IN EMAIL ADDRESSES Badspam This will do an AND between the two conditions ... Is there an easy way to OR between them? ... Or do I need to make a separate rule for each and every condition? And an even further note... What are the thoughts on some of these anti-spam tools that work with procmail? Any favorites? Thanks a lot guys, -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:21 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Procmail Question On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 09:13:18AM -0500, Peter Gutowski wrote: > According to the man page the second ":" is optional, i.e. > > :0: > > but, as a sample of something known to work (from the SpamAssassin > sample .procmailrc) it does use the above syntax. Here's the example: > > So maybe the second ":" is not optional all the time? Just so we're all clear, the second ":" tells procmail that is needs to lock the file before writing to avoid corrupted mailboxes. So it's a good idea if you're writing to a mailbox, but isn't actually required, especially if you're writing to /dev/null or something. I didn't see anything wrong offhand with the procmail rules shown. Can we see the header of an example mail which doesn't work with the original but works with the carbon copy method? (and by work, just to double check, we're talking about the message going into the "test" folder). -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "When it is not necessary to make a decision, it is necessary not to make a decision." - From www.slashdot.org

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