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RE: [Wlug] Partition left 7 Gbs!
by dibb_jim＠emc.com Nov. 21, 2002

Nov. 21, 2002

You are probably seeing the difference between 80 * 10^9 representation and 80 * 2^30 representation of GB. An "80 GB" drive usually is seen by an OS as having ~73 GB of space. But without stating why you think so, it's difficult to tell for sure. -----Original Message----- From: Aramico To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: 11/21/02 7:37 AM Subject: [Wlug] Partition left 7 Gbs! Hi all, I've got a Baracuda 7200 RPM 80 Gbs Seagate. I've creating the partition using fdisk on Linux RedHat. Why does it always leave 7 Gbs that not partitioned ? So, Here I have 7 Gbs space useless :( Any idea to solve this ? Thanks, _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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[Fwd: Clarify: GRUB setup on RAID1]
by Brett Russ Nov. 21, 2002

Nov. 21, 2002

Can anyone on this list shed some light on my question below? Thanks, Brett -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Clarify: GRUB setup on RAID1 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:34:03 -0500 From: Brett Russ <icycle(a)charter.net> To: bug-grub(a)gnu.org I looked through all of the archives on this list as well as google searching for help. I want to make sure that GRUB supports installation on RAID1 (mirror) units. I have seen several methods to do this: Method 1) device (hd0) /dev/hde root (hd0,0) install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,0) /boot/grub/stage2 0x8000 (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst install /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) /boot/grub/stage2 0x8000 (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst device (hd0) /dev/hdg root (hd0,0) install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,0) /boot/grub/stage2 0x8000 (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst install /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) /boot/grub/stage2 0x8000 (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst ...and so on for each device--substituting each additional RAID1 member drive in the /dev/hdX line. Method 2) echo '(hd0) /dev/md0' > /boot/grub/device.map grub-install '(hd0)' ...and so on for each (hd#) that is part of the md. Method 3) root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) ...and so on for each hd# present in the RAID1. My question is whether the /dev/hdX syntax or /dev/md# or (hd#) syntax is correct and what the significance of the value 0x8000 for the Stage 2 load address. It certainly seems like method 3 is the cleanest. And, are any of these methods considered better than the others? Thanks, Brett _______________________________________________ Bug-grub mailing list Bug-grub(a)gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-grub

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Sar for Linux
by Adam Keck Nov. 20, 2002

Nov. 20, 2002

Those of you who use Solaris or AIX have access to a system statistics tool, sar. Is there any equivalent tool for Linux? -Adam "lingua machinationis creo, ergo sum" _____________________________________________ Adam Keck The Mathworks 508-647-7298 Natick, Ma www.mathworks.com FreeNIX/Backup/Unix Administrator _____________________________________________

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RE: [Wlug] Sar for Linux
by Keller, Tim Nov. 20, 2002

Nov. 20, 2002

I'm not sure what distro your using, but my Redhat 7.3 box has sar installed. Tim. "It's pretty hard to 'Rage Against The Machine' when you work for the Sony Corporation" -- funny slashdot sig. -----Original Message----- From: Adam Keck [mailto:akeck@mathworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 15:25 PM To: WLUG List Subject: [Wlug] Sar for Linux Those of you who use Solaris or AIX have access to a system statistics tool, sar. Is there any equivalent tool for Linux? -Adam "lingua machinationis creo, ergo sum" _____________________________________________ Adam Keck The Mathworks 508-647-7298 Natick, Ma www.mathworks.com FreeNIX/Backup/Unix Administrator _____________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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REMINDER: Meeting Wed. Nov. 20, 7 PM
by Andy Stewart Nov. 18, 2002

Nov. 18, 2002

HI everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall at WPI in Worcester, MA. I'm open for topics to be discussed at this meeting. Ideally, I'm hoping somebody will volunteer at the last minute to talk to the group about some topic of interest. Surprisingly enough, this happens frequently and works out well when all is said and done, so I'm not in a panic (yet). My only problem with this is that some folks come to a meeting only if the topic is announced in advance and it is of interest to them. So, what do you say, gang? Here are some ideas which I had: a) Does anybody want to demo their scanner under Linux? How about a live install of SANE ? b) Linux software for (grand)kids - I"ve seen TuxPaint and KTuberling, there must be others. Inquiring kids want to know! c) TiVO - doesn't that run Linux? Can you do any interesting hacks to the Linux software that could be demonstrated at our meeting? d) MAME - some guys at work built a MAME machine. Maybe you did, too? Tell us about it, or better yet, bring the machine to the meeting. e) LTSP - this one might be a bit involved if the demo was from scratch, and would involve around 2 or 3 computers to be useful. Does anybody have any experience with this? f) Do you have other ideas? Let the group know what they are! The "live demo" meetings have been well received in the past, especially if some problem crops up during the demo (which makes us demo folks squirm uncomfortably, to the amusement of the audience!). I hope somebody volunteers to speak at the next meeting. It'll be pretty boring otherwise, and nobody wants that to be the case. I've been working flat out for the last couple of months and have no time to prepare anything for ths meeting. If you want to volunteer, send me or the group e-mail ASAP. You'll be glad you did. :-) Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Kevin Mitnick speaking at Marlboro Softpro tonight...
by Keller, Tim Nov. 14, 2002

Nov. 14, 2002

A buddy of mine just let me know that Kevin Mitnick will be speaking at Softpro books in Marlboro @6:30pm. Thought you might find that tidbit a bit interesting... Tim.

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Thanks
by Pierce Barnard Nov. 12, 2002

Nov. 12, 2002

Hi , I just wanted to thank all those who assisted me in getting Samba up and running. Thanks again.

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Re: [Wlug] mounting bsd44 under RedHat
by Peter Gutowski Nov. 11, 2002

Nov. 11, 2002

sorry for the confusion. Here's the corrected snippet: I think you really need to type in 'ufstype=44bsd' and not just '44bsd' so your mount command probably should be: mount -t ufs -o ufstype=bsd44 /dev/hdc1 /hdc1 ( in your linux src directory, see fs/ufs/super.c ) HTH. -pg

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Re: [Wlug] mounting bsd44 under RedHat
by Peter Gutowski Nov. 11, 2002

Nov. 11, 2002

I think you really need to type in 'ufsoption=44bsd' and not just '44bsd' so your mount command probably should be: mount -t ufs -o ufstype=bsd44 /dev/hdc1 /hdc1 ( in your linux src directory, see fs/ufs/super.c ) HTH. -pg On Monday, November 11, 2002 1:45 PM, Christopher B Stank <stanky(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: >Opps! > >When I said bsd44, I actually meant 44bsd. > >Mount options for ufs > ufstype=value > > UFS is a file system widely used in different operating >systems. The problems are differences among implementations. Features of >some implementations are undocumented, so its hard to recognize the type >of ufs automatically. That's why the user must specify the type of ufs by >mount option. Possible values are: > > old Old format of ufs, this is the default, read only. > > 44bsd For filesystems created by a BSD-like system >(NetBSD,FreeBSD,OpenBSD). > >etc. > >Sorry for any confusion! I have also tried it without the -o 44bsd and >get the same error. > >/Chris > > -- Peter Gutowski <peter(a)linuxchamps.com> // tel.: (413) 531-0123 "When in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered." --George Washington, _Rules for Civility and Decent Behavior_

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Re: [Wlug] mounting bsd44 under RedHat
by Peter Gutowski Nov. 11, 2002

Nov. 11, 2002

Sometimes you gotta believe the error message. I've reread the mount man page and I see no reference to bsd44 as being a legal option. Have you tried issuing the command without the '-o bsd44'? On Monday, November 11, 2002 7:19 AM, Christopher B Stank <stanky(a)parrottech.net> wrote: >Greetings All! > >I am having an issue when attempting to mount a bsd44 (a freebsd >partition) under a base install of Redhat 8.0. > >The kernel is 2.4.18-14, and has loaded the ufs f/s module. > >The FAT looks like: > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >/dev/hdc1 * 1 1912 15358108+ a5 FreeBSD >/dev/hdc2 * 1913 8796 55295730 a5 FreeBSD >/dev/hdc3 * 8797 9688 7164990 a5 FreeBSD >/dev/hdc4 * 9689 9731 345397+ a5 FreeBSD > >I have attempted to mount the hdc1 partition as follows: >mount -t ufs -o bsd44 /dev/hdc1 /hdc1 > >and I get the following error: >"mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1, > or too many mounted file systems" > >Does anyone have any insight as to what I am doing wrong! Any help would >be greatly appreciated, as I need to get the data off these FreeBSD >partitions before I format them as EXT3. > >Thanks in advance! >/Chris >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Peter Gutowski <peter(a)linuxchamps.com> // tel.: (413) 531-0123 "When in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered." --George Washington, _Rules for Civility and Decent Behavior_

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mounting bsd44 under RedHat
by Christopher B Stank Nov. 11, 2002

Nov. 11, 2002

Greetings All! I am having an issue when attempting to mount a bsd44 (a freebsd partition) under a base install of Redhat 8.0. The kernel is 2.4.18-14, and has loaded the ufs f/s module. The FAT looks like: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdc1 * 1 1912 15358108+ a5 FreeBSD /dev/hdc2 * 1913 8796 55295730 a5 FreeBSD /dev/hdc3 * 8797 9688 7164990 a5 FreeBSD /dev/hdc4 * 9689 9731 345397+ a5 FreeBSD I have attempted to mount the hdc1 partition as follows: mount -t ufs -o bsd44 /dev/hdc1 /hdc1 and I get the following error: "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1, or too many mounted file systems" Does anyone have any insight as to what I am doing wrong! Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I need to get the data off these FreeBSD partitions before I format them as EXT3. Thanks in advance! /Chris -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Christopher Bruce Stank cstank(a)nortelnetworks.com CES - Sys Test Engineering (978) 288-6185 Nortel Networks (508) 769-9664 (cel) 600 Technology Park (978) 445-5328 (pgr) M/S E65/60/301 (978) 288-4004 (fax) Billerica, MA 01821 248-6185 (esn)

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How to setup Samba
by Pierce Barnard Nov. 11, 2002

Nov. 11, 2002

Hello, I am trying to configure Samba on my Suse Box to share files with my Windows ME box. Is there a webpage or document that I can use to set up Samba?

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RE: [Wlug] Routing problem -can I believe the ISP tech? #2
by Richard Goodman Nov. 9, 2002

Nov. 9, 2002

> > >> Firewall is based on IPChains firewall from Ziegler's book "Linux >> Firewalls" 1st ed, which denies all then allows as needed. I've >> triple-checked the firewall -- the only non-comment changes made were >> all added ACCEPT statements, all cut&pasted from the Home firewall. >> There are no IP-specific denies that I added to the firewall - and I >> haven't updated rc.firewall.blocked in months. > >Sounds like you're further up on Linux firewalling than I am, actually. For >myself, I run a modified Linux Router Project disk image, and let NAT and >Portsentry take care of most of my issues. If you say it's clean, then it >must be clean. Understand though, the techs will NEVER believe this. At ALL. >If you made changes to a firewall and then you couldn't access, it's >Somebody Else's Problem, and that's their professional opinion. (I should >know, I was one. :) ) > Well, the problem was in the firewall, but it doesn't explain EVERYTHING that happened. After two hours on the phone Mon afternoon with Qwest tech support level 2, they insisted I try ping/traceroute with the firewall disabled. Pings moved through as expected ...hmmmm I'd been through the firewall code so many times I just about had it memorized, so I decided to look at the file rc.firewall.blocked which it reads, which has of a list of IPChains statements blocking IP#s (which the main firewall doesn't do). I hadn't really updated this much recently, because when someone started banging on the firewall, it was tough to know if it was a static IP or not. Anyways ... found TWO entries that were <Home IP#>/24 and <Home network>/24 ... basically the same thing. Don't remember putting THOSE in there <g> When I rebuilt the last hacked machine (EFO) I copied rc.firewall and rc.firewall.blocked from the home machine, because I couldn't read the copies I'd backed up from EFO.... so the block against the Home IP was at both ends of the link. The only mystery is why everything worked for two hours Friday night before I reloaded the EFO firewall -- because the rc.firewall.blocked file hadn't been changed in more than a week, and had already been loaded with the firewall when I first brought up the EFO server on Friday. Now if I could get any takers on finding out why none of my servers can send email to each other (but only each other) since they were upgrade from RH7.0 to RH7.3 (sendmail 8.11.6) I'll be all set. [Email to list 10/31] Dick

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RE: [Wlug] Procmail Question
by Marc Hughes Nov. 8, 2002

Nov. 8, 2002

OK, spamassasin looks pretty damned cool ... I love the "reasons" why something is spam. -Marc SPAM: Content analysis details: (8.10 hits, 5 required) SPAM: TO_NO_USER (1.7 points) To: has no local-part before @ sign SPAM: SMTPD_IN_RCVD (1.2 points) Received via SMTPD32 server (SMTPD32-n.n) SPAM: X_PRIORITY_HIGH (0.4 points) Sent with 'X-Priority' set to high SPAM: X_MSMAIL_PRIORITY_HIGH (0.4 points) Sent with 'X-Msmail-Priority' set to high SPAM: USER_AGENT_OE (0.2 points) X-Mailer header indicates a non-spam MUA (Outlook Express) SPAM: ACT_NOW (0.3 points) BODY: Act Now! Don't Hesitate! SPAM: EXCUSE_14 (0.2 points) BODY: Tells you how to stop further spam SPAM: EXCUSE_1 (0.1 points) BODY: Gives an excuse about why you were sent this spam SPAM: SPAM_PHRASE_03_05 (1.1 points) BODY: Spam phrases score is 03 to 05 (medium) SPAM: [score: 3] SPAM: BIG_FONT (0.3 points) BODY: FONT Size +2 and up or 3 and up SPAM: HTML_WITH_BGCOLOR (0.3 points) BODY: HTML mail with non-white background SPAM: HTML_FONT_COLOR_RED (0.3 points) BODY: HTML font color is red SPAM: HTML_50_70 (0.3 points) BODY: Message is 50-70% HTML tags SPAM: HTML_FONT_COLOR_NOHASH (0.2 points) BODY: HTML font color is missing hash ( SPAM: HTML_FONT_COLOR_BLUE (0.2 points) BODY: HTML font color is blue SPAM: MISSING_MIMEOLE (0.5 points) Message has X-MSMail-Priority, but no X-MimeOLE SPAM: CTYPE_JUST_HTML (0.4 points) HTML-only mail, with no text version -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:13 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Procmail Question On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 10:07:37AM -0500, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > :0: > * 1^1 ^From.*jenny(a)axte84\.com > * 1^1 ^Subject.*MILLION OPT-IN EMAIL ADDRESSES > Badspam Oops, slight update: :0: * 1^0 ^From.*jenny(a)axte84\.com * 1^0 ^Subject.*MILLION OPT-IN EMAIL ADDRESSES Badspam I believe they'd be functionally equivilent for you, but the first one keeps looking for matches after the first hit. The second one stops at 1 hit, so it's more efficient. :) There's a nice discussion about this stuff at: http://www.rosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de/mailing-lists/procmail/1998-01/msg0 0335.html :) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "This is a beta release of Red Hat Linux. It is not intended for mission critical applications. It's not even intended for non-mission critical applications. Important data should not be entrusted to Wolverine, as it may eat it and make loud belching noises." - RedHat Beta release "Wolverine"

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RE: [Wlug] Procmail Question
by Marc Hughes Nov. 8, 2002

Nov. 8, 2002

With the locking (:0:) all seems to work now. I'm guessing it's because I have an IMAP connection open to the mailbox while I receive the new email and it get's processed. While we're talking about procmail... A second question: :0: * ^From.*jenny(a)axte84\.com * ^Subject.*MILLION OPT-IN EMAIL ADDRESSES Badspam This will do an AND between the two conditions ... Is there an easy way to OR between them? ... Or do I need to make a separate rule for each and every condition? And an even further note... What are the thoughts on some of these anti-spam tools that work with procmail? Any favorites? Thanks a lot guys, -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:21 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Procmail Question On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 09:13:18AM -0500, Peter Gutowski wrote: > According to the man page the second ":" is optional, i.e. > > :0: > > but, as a sample of something known to work (from the SpamAssassin > sample .procmailrc) it does use the above syntax. Here's the example: > > So maybe the second ":" is not optional all the time? Just so we're all clear, the second ":" tells procmail that is needs to lock the file before writing to avoid corrupted mailboxes. So it's a good idea if you're writing to a mailbox, but isn't actually required, especially if you're writing to /dev/null or something. I didn't see anything wrong offhand with the procmail rules shown. Can we see the header of an example mail which doesn't work with the original but works with the carbon copy method? (and by work, just to double check, we're talking about the message going into the "test" folder). -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "When it is not necessary to make a decision, it is necessary not to make a decision." - From www.slashdot.org

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Re: [Wlug] Procmail Question
by Peter Gutowski Nov. 8, 2002

Nov. 8, 2002

According to the man page the second ":" is optional, i.e. :0: but, as a sample of something known to work (from the SpamAssassin sample .procmailrc) it does use the above syntax. Here's the example: # Mails with a score of 15 or higher are almost certainly spam (with 0.05% # false positives according to rules/STATISTICS.txt). Let's put them in a # different mbox. (This one is optional.) :0: * ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* mail/almost-certainly-spam The above *does* work on my system (RHL8.0). So maybe the second ":" is not optional all the time? HTH, Peter On Friday, November 8, 2002 8:45 AM, Marc Hughes <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> wrote: >I have a procmail question.... I have this rule: > >:0 >* ^From:.*hughesm@tomsnyder.com >test > >That doesn't seem to work. But this rule... > >:0c >* ^From:.*hughesm@tomsnyder.com >test > >... Works just fine ... But I want the first rule, I don't want it to >copy (what the :0c does) I want it to move (:0) Am I doing something >wrong? > >Thanks! >-Marc > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Peter Gutowski <peter(a)linuxchamps.com> // tel.: (413) 531-0123 "When in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered." --George Washington, _Rules for Civility and Decent Behavior_

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Procmail Question
by Marc Hughes Nov. 8, 2002

Nov. 8, 2002

I have a procmail question.... I have this rule: :0 * ^From:.*hughesm@tomsnyder.com test That doesn't seem to work. But this rule... :0c * ^From:.*hughesm@tomsnyder.com test ... Works just fine ... But I want the first rule, I don't want it to copy (what the :0c does) I want it to move (:0) Am I doing something wrong? Thanks! -Marc

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x86 emulation/vmare clone
by twg3＠attbi.com Nov. 8, 2002

Nov. 8, 2002

Is anyone familiar with any open-source versions of x86 emulation software that I can use instead of VMWare? It seems that the plex86 project has moved, and I can not find out much info on status of software - ie how usable etc.???? My goal is to run linux with win2k as a virtual machine for the few work related things I need.

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gnome desktop menus?
by Bill Mills-Curran Nov. 8, 2002

Nov. 8, 2002

I've installed RedHat 8.0 on my system, and I've decided to finally wean myself from fvwm2 and use the default setup. I've been poking around trying to figure out how to add entries to the panel menus. There doesn't seem to be a gui interface to do it. (There is a gui to add stuff to the desktop and to the panel, but not the menus.) I suspect that the secret handshake is contained in /etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/ directories, but I haven't found the secret decoder ring to help figure out the right way to do this. My main motivation is to add some favorite applications to the menus for my family. They are not about to use the command line. Does anyone have any suggestions? TIA, Bill

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uptime celibration
by Karl Hiramoto Nov. 7, 2002

Nov. 7, 2002

#uptime 1:39pm up 100 days, 34 min, 6 users, load average: 1.06, 1.05, Eat that Micro$oft :) -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Lady Luck brings added income today. Lady friend takes it away tonight.

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RE: [Wlug] uptime celebration
by Keller, Tim Nov. 5, 2002

Nov. 5, 2002

I that was the oldest... my coworker just corrected me... Also HPUX... ispolo5# uptime 2:04pm up 1079 days, 3:28, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.13, 0.18 ispolo5# I propose a 1000 day uptime minimum... ;-) Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 14:03 PM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: RE: [Wlug] uptime celebration ispolo2# uptime 1:59pm up 790 days, 56 mins, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.25, 0.24 Suppose I should put the uname -a output to resolve any confusions... ispolo2# uname -a HP-UX ispolo2 B.10.20 E 9000/888 2140000344 8-user license I had a linux box at 354 days of uptime, however a loose ethernet card did it in... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Karl Hiramoto [mailto:karl@zoop.org] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 13:44 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] uptime celibration #uptime 1:39pm up 100 days, 34 min, 6 users, load average: 1.06, 1.05, Eat that Micro$oft :) -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Lady Luck brings added income today. Lady friend takes it away tonight. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation ofgraphsinredhat6.2
by Sudhaker P Nov. 5, 2002

Nov. 5, 2002

Hi Marc, Thanks once again. I tried installing Xvfb but I'm getting the error message: Xlib: Connection "localhost:1" refused by the server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to the server xhost:Unable to open display "localhost:1". I'd appreciate your sugestions on this issue. Thanks, Peram >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >ofgraphsinredhat6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:04:48 -0500 > >Yup > >I believe it's on the RedHat CD's. > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:49 PM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >ofgraphsinredhat6.2 > > >Hi Marc, >Is Xvfb a software that I can download and install? > >-Sudhakar > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphsinredhat6.2 > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:40:55 -0500 > > > > > >So you're saying that you can use X on the machine, right? If so, I'd > >look > >other places for the problem. > > > >Double check that your DISPLAY is set properly and access is enabled. > >This > >was the exact same error message I used to get when java couldn't connect > >to the xserver. > > > >I find doing something like this: > > > >nohup Xvfb :1 -screen 0 800x600x24 & > >sleep 5 > >export DISPLAY=localhost:1 > >xhost + > >SERVERCOMMAND <- (Whatever you need to do to start the server) > > > >Is best since it uses a virtual x server instead of the real one. This > >works around your problem, but is probably the "correct" way to do it > >anyways. > > > > > >-Marc > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:23 PM > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphsinredhat6.2 > > > > > >Hi Marc, > >The KDE for the server was not working for it so I fixed it, removing > >all the rpms and re-installing them, I even reinstalled "gd".So I was > >wondering if any other libraries related to X-server were broken too. > >My output for $ps auwx | grep X is as below > >root 14500 0.0 0.0 2220 980 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 /bin/sh > >/usr/X11R6/bin/startx > >root 14507 0.0 0.0 2344 668 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 xinit > >/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- > >root 14508 0.7 0.3 18156 7956 ? S< 09:44 1:07 /etc/X11/X > >:0 > > > >I'd appreciate your suggestions and comments in this regard. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > > >of graphs inredhat6.2 > > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:55:29 -0500 > > > > > >What do you mean when you say it seems broken? Are there other > > >symptoms besides the java connection to it? > > > > > >Can you sit down at the machine and use X? If this is a server, you > > >probably don't want that ability (that's where Xvfb comes in). What > > >Xserver are you running? > > > > > >If you "ps aux |grep X" do you see an xserver running? > > > > > >-Marc > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:46 AM > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > > >of graphs inredhat6.2 > > > > > > > > >Hi Marc, > > >Thanks for the reply. > > >I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its > > >on the server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- > > >server seems to be broken. I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any > > >kind of information with the help of which I can fix the issue of > > >broken X-windows. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > >generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > > > > > > > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it > > > >look more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? > > > >If so, when you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable > > > >correctly? Does > > >the > > > >server process have access to the Xserver? > > > > > > > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? > > > >Without a running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical > > > >operations, even if > > >those > > > >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue > > > >that > > >a > > > >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run > > > >Xvfb > > >... > > > >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver > > > >to play with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-Marc > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM > > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > >generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > > >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is > > > >looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. > > > >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of > > > >X-windows. > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > > > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > > >generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > > > > > > > >Hi Karl, > > > > >Thanks a lot for the response. > > > > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic > > > > >log java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > > > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > > > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEn > > > >vi > > > >ronment.java:58) > > > > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > > > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown > > >Source) > > > > > at > > > > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Un > > > > >kn > > > > >ow > > > > >n > > > > >Source) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.j > > > >av > > > >a:356) > > > > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStub > > > >Im > > > >pl.java:123) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletC > > > >on > > > >textImpl.java:761) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletC > > > >on > > > >textImpl.java:708) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(Servl > > > >et > > > >ContextManager.java:252) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.j > > > >av > > > >a:346) > > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > > > > at > > > > >weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > > > > > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs > > > > >could be the reason and X might be broken. > > > > > > > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > > > > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > > > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > > >>generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > > > > >> > > > > >>Get any errors on your command line? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to > > > > >>verify that it is the kernel? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > Hi , > > > > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The > > > > >> > same > > > > >>program is > > > > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel > > > > >> > 2.4.16 but it > > > > >>fails > > > > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 > > > > >> > on which it > > > > >>used > > > > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > > > > >> > something > > > > >>may > > > > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that > > > > >> > doesn't seem to help. 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RE: [Wlug] uptime celebration
by Keller, Tim Nov. 4, 2002

Nov. 4, 2002

ispolo2# uptime 1:59pm up 790 days, 56 mins, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.25, 0.24 Suppose I should put the uname -a output to resolve any confusions... ispolo2# uname -a HP-UX ispolo2 B.10.20 E 9000/888 2140000344 8-user license I had a linux box at 354 days of uptime, however a loose ethernet card did it in... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Karl Hiramoto [mailto:karl@zoop.org] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 13:44 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] uptime celibration #uptime 1:39pm up 100 days, 34 min, 6 users, load average: 1.06, 1.05, Eat that Micro$oft :) -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Lady Luck brings added income today. Lady friend takes it away tonight. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs in redhat 6.2
by Sudhaker P Nov. 4, 2002

Nov. 4, 2002

Hi Tim, Thanks for the reply. The version of JDK differ the version I'm having issues with is 1.3.1_01 and the ones the code is running successfully is 1.3.0_02, however the graphs were being produced before. The following is the Weblogic log which I'd appreciate if you can look at and tell what could be the issue in your view: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) at java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) at com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknown Source) at jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) at weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) at weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) I've done some reading and feel that awt uses X-windows and I think that might be broken. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. Thanks, Peram >From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: "'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org'" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs in redhat 6.2 >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:45:42 -0500 > >Peram, > >I'll ask an obvious question... You've verified that both machines running >the same version of the java run time environment? > >Also, does the entire applet fail or does it just fail to display the >graph. >If so, you might have to insert some code to catch exceptions... Possibly >some library has gotten mangled... > >Hope that helps, >Tim. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 14:35 PM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs in redhat 6.2 > > >Hi , >I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same program >is > >able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but it fails >to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on which it >used > >to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that something may >broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't seem to >help. >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in this issue with your >comments and suggestions. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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Routing problem -can I believe the ISP tech? #2
by Richard Goodman Nov. 3, 2002

Nov. 3, 2002

My apologies for the HTML, it was not intentional. I was trying to make part of the email more (not less) readable. I've changed options so hopefully it will never happen again. ======== I just brought up my fourth RH7.3 server Friday afternoon (one of two RH7.0 servers that had been hacked-new hard drive and software). I then went home and spent a couple of hours connected to it with ssh on a workstation connected to my home RH7.3 server. When I went to rerun a slightly modified (open ports for ftp and internal dhcp twiddling) ipchains firewall I lost the connection, and, more than 16 hours later, don't have it back. Other relevant details. (let's call the servers Home and EFO) Home was the other hacked server, and was formatted and rebuilt last weekend. Home and EFO are on the same ISP and each has a block of 4 static IPs. The blocks share the first 18 bits of their IP#s. Home could connect to EFO last night Home now cannot connect to EFO via ssh, or access its web site. Pings are disabled on all my servers - so I can't do that test. EFO network workstations can browse the web; I can ping out from the EFO linux box or workstations, and can ping EFO's Cisco 678 router from its Linux box EFO workstations cannot access Home websites (but I had not tried this before since rebuilding EFO Linux box Home Cisco 678 cannot be pinged from Home Linux box (!) or EFO (Linux or workstation), but can be pinged from my office (Linux box on other ISP). >From my office workstation I can also ssh to EFO and access EFO website (which in fact I uploaded to the new server from my office today). Does this discount the possibility of a firewall issue? I spent countless hours talking to the ISP (Qwest) tech support, and over an hour with a senior tech who had some Linux knowledge, and he claims that it must be a configuration issue on one or both of my Home and EFO Linux boxes, since: He can login to both my Cisco routers and ping the other router - he claims this proves its not a Qwest routing problem. If he's right I'm still puzzled by two things: a) Why could I connect from Home to EFO for two hours last night, no problems? b) Why can't the Home Linux box ping the Cisco 678 directly connected to it? I knew nothing about routing before today - here's the Home routing table: route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface xxx.yyy.28.48 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.248 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 xxx.yyy.28.54 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 I tried the following but still could not access EFO (added just the EFO IP#, not the network block: #route add -host xxx.yyy.26.57 dev eth0 # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface xxx.yyy.26.57 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0 xxx.yyy.28.48 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.248 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 xxx.yyy.28.54 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 Is this enough if to decide if the tech is right or crazy? Any suggestions - I still can't access Home from/to EFO. Dick

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