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REMINDER: WLUG Meeting Thurs. May 15th 7:00 PM
by Andy Stewart 11 May '03

11 May '03

HI Everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Thursday, May 15th, 2003 at 7:00 PM in Olin Hall 107 (note new location!) on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA. At this meeting, our guest speaker will be Vince McHugh. Vince will talk to WLUG about the Common Unix Printing System (CUPS). The second part of Vince's talk will be about imaging and scanning. In this context, Vince will talk about how his company, NECS, is making Canon scanning products work in the Linux environment. Vince is a member of GNHLUG and is also a Systems Support Manager for NECS/Canon (the largest independent Canon dealer in New England). Vince has been involved with Linux for the last 4-5 years, and also possesses a Novell CNE and a Windows MCP. Light refreshments will be served at the meeting. Afterwards, we'll go to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. All are welcome! -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Re: [Wlug] Redhat GUI performance
by twg3＠attbi.com 09 May '03

09 May '03

Some of this may also be related to the OS scheduler and VM configuration of the kernel - both of which have been improved in the new 2.5/2.6 kernel. The new shceduler is preemptive and does a better job of giving interactive processes a higher priority which makes the box "feel" faster. It is because of this feel, that I actually run a 2.2 kernel on my desktop/workstation since it feels faster than a 2.4 kernel (but does not support as much hardware which I can run 2.5 for if I need to). > > I've notice that when going from redhat 7.x to 8 or 9 you need a > minimum of 256M RAM. with 128M and running gnome there is way too > much swap space in use. > > Gnome and KDE are very bulky GUI's.. twm or blackbox are the slimest > and fastest. A friend of mine runs gentoo linux and it seems very > fast compared to redhat on the same box. > > type the "free" command at the prompt and see your memory usage also > "ps aumx" to see process memory usage. > > I would reccomend spending the roughly $40 to get a 256M upgrade for > your box. More RAM almost always helps. The os can keep more things > in memory and give you a faster response. I use 512M myself. > > hope this helps > > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey) wrote: > > > I have a general question about Linux performance... > > > > I am running Redhat 8.0 on a Dell 400MHz, 128MB system (OptiPlex) with an > > 8MB ATI Rage Pro Video card. I have a fairly basic workstation installation, > with > > SSHd, ftpd, telnetd, apached, and a couple other services running. Gnome > seems > > to take forever to open windows/applications. It can be on the order of 10 > seconds > > to a minute for some applications to come up. (Mozilla is one of the worst, > even > > to just bring up a local file as the home page for the browser) > > > > Is Gnome just a very slow GUI, or is there something that I can do to speed up > my > > system?? > > > > I know of several (5-6) people who have installed RedHat 7.2...8.0 on Dell and > Sony > > systems (all CPU are 866MHz+) with Gnome or KDE and the performance has been > > very slow in the GUI. Even with a higher end 1.5GHz CPU/512MB RAM system. > > > > Is there a Linux distribution that has a standard GUI that is very responsive? > Is Redhat > > just too bulky to run quickly, or do I need to download a better GUI for > Redhat? > > > > With Windows2000, this system was very responsive, and the other people I know > > about are running XP, which is so much faster that they run XP most of the > time now. > > > > Thanks, > > jeff > > > > > > > > -- > > €º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > Cell: 508-517-4819 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > €º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > > The hardest thing is to disguise your feelings when you put a lot of > relatives on the train for home. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Redhat GUI performance
by Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey) 09 May '03

09 May '03

I have a general question about Linux performance... I am running Redhat 8.0 on a Dell 400MHz, 128MB system (OptiPlex) with an 8MB ATI Rage Pro Video card. I have a fairly basic workstation installation, with SSHd, ftpd, telnetd, apached, and a couple other services running. Gnome seems to take forever to open windows/applications. It can be on the order of 10 seconds to a minute for some applications to come up. (Mozilla is one of the worst, even to just bring up a local file as the home page for the browser) Is Gnome just a very slow GUI, or is there something that I can do to speed up my system?? I know of several (5-6) people who have installed RedHat 7.2...8.0 on Dell and Sony systems (all CPU are 866MHz+) with Gnome or KDE and the performance has been very slow in the GUI. Even with a higher end 1.5GHz CPU/512MB RAM system. Is there a Linux distribution that has a standard GUI that is very responsive? Is Redhat just too bulky to run quickly, or do I need to download a better GUI for Redhat? With Windows2000, this system was very responsive, and the other people I know about are running XP, which is so much faster that they run XP most of the time now. Thanks, jeff

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RE: [Wlug] /tmp
by twg3＠attbi.com 09 May '03

09 May '03

Good advice. The X window system amd font server create its unix domain sockets as files under /tmp along with other programs, which will not show up doing "fuser -u /tmp/*". Also do a "netstat -pA" to get a list of all the unix domain sockets and look for files in /tmp. The -p will let you know which program you will break if you delete the socket, but just leave those files alone as they are not taking up any space on the file system, just an inode. > Gregory, > > You'll want to do a "fuser -u /tmp/*" and see what files are currently in > use. If it's currently not in use, it's probably safe to delete. > > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@rcn.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 12:14 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] /tmp > > > Is it safe to delete the contents of the /tmp directory to make some > space on the drive? > > Thanks. > > Greg > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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RE: [Wlug] /tmp
by Keller, Tim 08 May '03

08 May '03

Gregory, You'll want to do a "fuser -u /tmp/*" and see what files are currently in use. If it's currently not in use, it's probably safe to delete. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@rcn.com] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 12:14 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] /tmp Is it safe to delete the contents of the /tmp directory to make some space on the drive? Thanks. Greg _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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/tmp
by Gregory Avedissian 08 May '03

08 May '03

Is it safe to delete the contents of the /tmp directory to make some space on the drive? Thanks. Greg

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SuSE 8.2
by Michael Long 05 May '03

05 May '03

Howdy, I am looking for the zope rpm's, including the source rpm, from the SuSE 8.2 cd's. Would anyone have them? Thanks, Mike

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A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.
by Stephen C. Daukas 01 May '03

01 May '03

I'm posing this question becuase I'm betting some on this list have ventured down the path before me... I'm looking to avoid having to keep up on the latest and greatest web development stuff just to have a useful an interesting site. So, I'm looking for something like phpnuke to convert over to. I am aware of phpnuke, and other similar packages out there. I'm planning on downloading nuke to see what it can and can't do... I wouldn't mind having control over things providing I have the time, but am to the point where I do not want ot have to write code every time I get an idea. I already have a job... So, anyone have a favorite tool, collection of tools, etc., that they would recommend for a person site that supports logins, discussion threads, etc.? Steve

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CD burning question...
by Bill Mills-Curran 01 May '03

01 May '03

If I burn a CD from an ISO, should I be able to duplicate the MD5SUM: md5sum file.iso md5sum /dev/scd0 Right? (I think I'm getting some errors while burning.) Thanks, Bill

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Re: Wlug digest, Vol 1 #576 - 4 msgs
by Arturo 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

Cool little set of scripts. They even come with that funky Desktop icon. What a luxury! Working through the scripts though it seems that the USB system does not see the USB device properly. Looking through some posts it looks like there is light at the end of the tunnel. Kernel 2.4.21 will have the updated usbnet patch that will allow communication with the 5600. I expect I'll be able to make some minor mods to the zaurus_check script and it should work like a charm. Thanks! Arturo > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: John Murphy <jfmurphy(a)charter.net> > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Does anyone have experience with the Zaurus 5600 and linux? > Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:27:30 -0400 > charset="iso-8859-1" > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > On Sunday 27 April 2003 18:00, Arturo wrote: > > From the looks of it, 5600 connectivity through usbnet is still pretty > > bleeding edge. Has anyone out there gotten the Zaurus SL-5600 connected > > with a linux desktop? > > > > Sharp was not kind in getting compatibility with linux. Anyhow, if > > anyone has any pointers let me know. > > > > Thanks > > Arturo > > I have 5500 with Suse 8.2, sync with Qtopia running the Sharp package. Have > been using right along in Suse 8.1, just installed it the other day with Suse > 8.2. If you have trouble with Linux look at the file zaurus_check-1.0. > > http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=853 > > I would assume it could be helpful in automating the sync with the desktop for > the 5600. Obviously I don't have a 5600 but this is what worked for me with a > 5500. > > > John > > -- > Arturo <wlug(a)sedo.net>

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scanners
by Bill Mills-Curran 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

I'm shopping for a linux-compatible scanner, preferrably with USB connectivity. Any suggestions about models and sources? TIA, Bill

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Does anyone have experience with the Zaurus 5600 and linux?
by Arturo 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

>From the looks of it, 5600 connectivity through usbnet is still pretty bleeding edge. Has anyone out there gotten the Zaurus SL-5600 connected with a linux desktop? Sharp was not kind in getting compatibility with linux. Anyhow, if anyone has any pointers let me know. Thanks Arturo -- Arturo <postgres(a)sedo.net>

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FW: [Wlug] A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.
by Brett Russ 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

OOPS, hit ctrl-enter by mistake. Continued below... > I'm anxious to hear anyone's feedback on this issue because I > would like to > break out of the nuke mold because every nuke site pretty much looks and > feels the same. I'm going to look into migrating to Zope. This site lists a bunch of CMS's, see the listings under Open Source: http://www.cmswatch.com/ContentManagement/Products/ I like what I saw so far on Zope, and there have been recent articles about it in Linux Journal (or Magazine...). Example sites here: http://www.zope.org/Resources/ZopePowered BR

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Toshiba e330 + Linux
by Chuck Haines 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

I've had a Toshiba e330 for about 3 months now, however it runs windows and I can't interface it with my linux machine. I was curious if anyone had any information regarding putting linux on one of these babies. I plan to get a wireless card and GPS adaptor for it soon, so how would that affect it. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Chuck -- ==================================== Chuck Haines chaines(a)wpi.edu http://www.linux-xtreme.net ==================================== WPI ECE Systems Administrator WPI Game Development Club Developer WPI Linux Association Lab Manager Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-IT Systems Administrator ==================================== AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ====================================

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Anyone know anything about midgard?
by Stephen C. Daukas 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

This is a Zope or phpnuke type set-up. it is LAMP-based (Linux, Apache, mySQL, perl/php)... Steve

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RH9 and MySQL
by Bill Smith 24 Apr '03

24 Apr '03

Anyone know off-hand what version(s) of MySQL is available with the RH9 installation? I checked out the RH website, but i didn't get any useful information. I'm looking to see if the latest MySQL release (4.x) is included... Thanks for any information... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com We're all vertebrates here... Show some BACKBONE! * TAG! v3.1 *

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freeswan
by Wes Allen 24 Apr '03

24 Apr '03

Is anyone out there using freeswan? I'm thinking of repeating my wireless network over to my office after my move and I'm thinking of setting up freeswan to encrypt the traffic more tightly on the network when I do. The howto's I've found have been on setting up a vpn between networks, is it possible to set up freeswan to encrypt traffic on a single lan (until sdmca laws make it technically illegal to do so.....). Wes -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

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REMINDER: WLUG Meeting Wed. April 16, 7:00 PM
by Andy Stewart 21 Apr '03

21 Apr '03

HI Everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, which will be held on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus. At this meeting, WLUG member Tim Keller will discuss how he used open source software to build a Digital Video Recorder (similar in function to the commercially available TiVO device). After the meeting, there will be a free (as in beer) raffle, and a trip to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. I look forward to seeing you there! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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wireless repeating...
by Wesley Allen 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

Hi all, We're MOVING! And now I have an opportunity to learn something new... Where we're going, our house is right next to the Church, and the Church offices are 25 yards from the Church and across the street. The Church is made of stone, the office-building is made of brick. Do you think it's possible to somehow put a repeater in the Church that will extend my wireless network the "last mile" so I can have internet access in my study? If so, what would you recommend? I know I'll have to set up a VPN for all my clients so traffic is in the clear on the network, but what hardware would allow me to do this? Wes -- Wesley Allen <wallen(a)charter.net>

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ati mobility m6
by Baris Hasdemir 16 Apr '03

16 Apr '03

hi Wlug, I have a laptop gateway 450sx4 with a video card, "ATI Technologies Inc. Mobility M6", as windows displays it. I could not figure which kernel video module I should load. another question is that what will go to the Driver section of XF86Config in xfree4.3.0? slackware uses vesa as default which does not use any hardware acceleration. thanks for any help, baris

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Re:[Wlug] gentoo
by vapier＠netzero.com 16 Apr '03

16 Apr '03

> What's people's experience with gentoo? it's a beautiful distro :) > I'm thinking of upgrading one of my boxes to it in the near future. This is a box I really mess around with, so how bleeding edge can I get? well ... lets just say we have had ebuilds for kde, gnome, openoffice, and xfree sometimes weeks before it was officially released ... we also have ebuilds that'll pull packages from cvs ... how much more bleeding edge can you want ? :) > Is it easy to keep some packages at stable releases, and some at unstable, or is it more of an all or nothing thing? at the moment you can run a stable profile which should be pretty stable or you can run unstable (and get all the benefits mentioned above) ... it isnt that easy to maintain a cross of the two at the moment, but portage-2.1.x should take care of that ... > I guess what I want is, a way of trying the newest stuff, but an easy way of going back to stable when I'm horrified with how buggy the newest stuff is. its easy to do that, but after the new emerge you may have to do some trickery to keep portage from re-emerging the stable version ... > Also... for the stable releases... how secure has the distro been as a whole? we have a list of all the GLSA's we've ever released ... we release a GLSA as soon as a bug has been identified and fixed ... we then bump anything security related out of the tree and mark the latest security enhanced version as stable ... for the people who want a system that *only* upgrades security related packages, then we're currently developing a system for that ... again wait till portage-2.1.x to see that ;) -mike ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today!

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gentoo
by Marc Hughes 16 Apr '03

16 Apr '03

What's people's experience with gentoo? I'm thinking of upgrading one of my boxes to it in the near future. This is a box I really mess around with, so how bleeding edge can I get? Is it easy to keep some packages at stable releases, and some at unstable, or is it more of an all or nothing thing? I guess what I want is, a way of trying the newest stuff, but an easy way of going back to stable when I'm horrified with how buggy the newest stuff is. Also... for the stable releases... how secure has the distro been as a whole? Comments, horror stories, massive praise? -Marc

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printing problem
by Bill Mills-Curran 15 Apr '03

15 Apr '03

I'm trying to configure my LPRng print queue to add a banner page to my print job. OS: Red Hat 8.0 Printer/driver: The printer is a Postscript network printer, using the Lexmark 4039 10 plus driver. I'm able to print just fine. I followed the instructions in /usr/share/doc/redhat-config-printer-0.4.24/README for hijacking a printconf spool. Then I added this to the printcap.local: :bp=/usr/libexec/filters/psbanner:\ However, I can't get the a banner page. What am I doing wrong? TIA, Bill

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computer fair
by Baris Hasdemir 14 Apr '03

14 Apr '03

hi, I heard of two computer fairs? or something similar... will take place in malborough this weekend and another one in worcester, again, will take place this weekend. does anybody know anything about them? do such fairs worth seeing? where are they held? a web page if possible? thanks, baris

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WLUG MEETING: April 16th, 2003
by Andy Stewart 08 Apr '03

08 Apr '03

Hi everybody, I'd like to tantalize you with an announcement about the next meeting. :-) It will be held on Wednesday, April 16th at 7:00 PM in "the usual place". WLUG member Tim Keller will be discussing how he took Linux and other Open Source software to create his own Digital Video Recorder (DVR) similar to a TiVO. Tim will describe just what a DVR is and how it works. Tim will also discuss software issues, and finally will perform a live demo. I've just updated the website. I'll send out a reminder this weekend. I hope to see many of you in attendance! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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