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WLUG Meeting - Thurs. August 14th - 7PM
by Andy Stewart 03 Aug '03

03 Aug '03

HI Everybody, I'm going to announce this meeting "early" (at least relative to most of our meeting announcements) in the hope that it will whet your Linux appetite and entice you to attend this meeting. The meeting topic will be the Linux Terminal Server Project (http://www.ltsp.org) The speaker will be your fearless leader, Andy Stewart. With the use of this software, a person can create a network of computers which uses one powerful server and any number of less powerful diskless client computers. A user would log into the client computer, and would be doing all of their work on the more powerful server transparently. Some advantages to this technique are: - maintenance is largely localized to the server - reuse of old, otherwise obsolete, equipment - security concerns are localized to the server - control over what users can access One disadvantage: - if the sever dies, everybody is dead No doubt you're asking: - how can I boot Linux on a diskless computer? - how is it that I do my work on the server? - why is system management easier with this configuration? - in what practical situation is this configuration advantageous? The answers to those questions, and many more, will be forthcoming at the meeting. I will prepare slides for the meeting which I'll put on the WLUG website afterwards. I will also walk through the many files required to setup this configuration. A live demo will be part of the meeting. To make this a bit more interesting, I'd like to ask a few people to bring in some equipment to help me (please RSVP to me to insure that we have enough of the right things): - a multisync monitor with 1024x768@72Hz capability (my spare died) - a 10/100 network hub or switch - some Ethernet cables - one or two other client machines: - could be laptops with network capability and bootable floppy - at least a P90 with 32 MB of memory, bootable floppy, video, network, etc. My hope is that we could demo 2-3 working clients off of my laptop server. I'll bring one known working client plus the server. See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Re: [Wlug] Linksys Router
by Michael Long 02 Aug '03

02 Aug '03

Thanks for all the feedback. I used YaST (SuSE's configuration tool) to configured the interface with a static IP and entered in the ip addresses of the dns servers that the router is using. Hopefully the dns servers have static ip's. Cheers, Mike

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Linksys Router
by Michael Long 02 Aug '03

02 Aug '03

Hi All, I have a linksys router that is acting as a dhcp server. The last firmware upgrade has change the lease time options to allow a lease to expire between 1-99999 minutes. Occasionally one of my boxes gets assigned a different IP address which invalidates the port forwarding rules. I would prefer to use static IP's but I am depending on my isp (verizon dsl) provider for their dns servers and they serve me with a dynamic address which changes reqularly. My initial thought is to write a script that checks the IP of my box and if it has changed, use links to update the port forwarding rules on the router by sending the appropriate URL to the router. Any other solutions, workarounds, hints or feedback are welcome. thanks, Mike

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Next meeting - topics?
by Andy Stewart 01 Aug '03

01 Aug '03

HI everybody, I am wondering what we should discuss at our next meeting - any ideas? I have been playing with diskless clients lately. There are a couple of ways to do this: a) load and run a Knoppix CD with no hard drive b) LTSP - Linux Terminal Server Project If people are interested, I could give a talk / demo of some basic LTSP stuff. I've got it working between a lame P90 and my laptop server. Let me know if you have other ideas, or if this idea sounds like something interesting to you. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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audio application...
by Keller, Tim 30 Jul '03

30 Jul '03

Hey, At the BBQ, one of our members mentioned an application that he uses for voice chat that has a linux server component. Could someone (even possibly the person who mentioned it) remind me what the name of that application is? Thanks, Tim.

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RE: [Wlug] X is freezing
by Keller, Tim 29 Jul '03

29 Jul '03

Baris, Are you using the nvidia driver (nv) supplied with Xfree86 or the nvidia supplied driver? Thanks, Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Baris Hasdemir [mailto:penguen@hasdemir.com] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:58 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] X is freezing Gregory Avedissian wrote: > I get X lockups, too. But when it happens, nothing works. No mouse, no > keys, and I don't think I get increased cpu load. Only pressing the > reset button works. I'm pretty sure it's due to a flaky power supply > that puts out low voltages sometimes, and has on occasion rebooted > itself for no apparent reason. I'll know for sure in about a week, when > the new one arrives. > let me tell some more about the frozen state. when this strange thing happens I absolutely can move the mouse pointer. but nothing reacts when moved over, or clicked on. more, when connected from another machine thorugh ssh, even if I kill the application shown on the screen, although the application is killed. (even not in Z state) it is still shown on screen as if nothing has happened. it is more like a screenshot taken before the freeze. it seems like driver problem? would you think so? thanks, baris _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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kernel choices in Debian
by Gregory Avedissian 29 Jul '03

29 Jul '03

I'm planning on wiping out my SuSE 7.2 installation and trying Debian 3.0r0. The install manual says that kernel 2.2 is the default, and kernel 2.4 is an option. I can't find anywhere that says why I should choose one over the other. My SuSE is already using 2.4. Seems like it would be a step backward to install the default 2.2. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks. Greg

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X is freezing
by Baris Hasdemir 28 Jul '03

28 Jul '03

Hi, When uptime reaches around three days, somehow a weird situation is happening. X usage suddenly jumps around 99% freezing the X environment. X seems to have frozen, but I can move the mouse pointer. Nothing else can be done. I log on to this machine from another one on the local area network using ssh, and reboot it for a temporary solution. If I restart only the X server, I believe it doesn't take that long to have the problem again. a total reboot gives me another 2-3 days. as soon as it freezes, connecting to this machine from the other one, I tried looking at the log files under /var/log several times. no entry has been added to xfree log in the last 10-15 minutes. and the files which have been modified in 15 minutes does not have any entries relating to the situaion, at least to my knowledge. suspecting the ram of this partially new system, I checked my rams with memtest-86-3.0. no problems are reported. suspecting the gdm, I tried without it as well. problem regenerates as usual. I don't know whether it is related but, another strange issue I am having is that: with or without gdm, sometime(not soon) after X login "alt" key starts not functioning. for example, alt+shift cannot change the keyboard layout or ctrl+alt+f{1-6} cannot take me to the consol and of course I cannot kill the X server using ctrl+alt+backspace. motherboard: Asus A7N8X cpu: AMD Athlon 2500+ video card: creative tnt2ultra 2X video driver: nvidia distro: slackware 9.0 ram: 512MB swap: 256MB Do you have any ideas? where would you think I should start from? thank you, baris

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SCO is getting greedy...
by Bill Smith 22 Jul '03

22 Jul '03

I got this as part of a mailing list for Information Week. I thought you would find it interesting. It's worth noting that SCO is working on THEIR SAY-SO. It is my personal opinion that any company that cowers and pays SCO just because they are using Linux is foolish. IANAL. It would be very much like some company deciding they wanted to bill you for services they didn't render. Would YOU pay that bill? If you haven't been following this story, SCO is the current owner of the Unix source code. They CLAIM that some of the System V source code made it into the Linux kernel, a claim that has not yet been substantiated. SCO has not (yet) publicly shown their "evidence". To date, the only way to see the source of their claims (no pun intended) is to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA). Many of the people that have agreed to SCO's requirements aren't technically savvy. Most of the people that WOULD know what they were looking at are either not interested in signing anything (like an NDA), or they just don't think that SCO has a leg to stand on. SCO themselves think that most of the Linux community will laugh in their (SCO's) face. I am proud to say that I am one of the people laughing. ;) ANYWAY, here's the teaser and the link to the article: SCO Group Wants Its Money With Unix System V copyrights in hand, the vendor introduced a plan to charge those who've used Linux as an alternative to Unix for UnixWare licenses. http://update.informationweek.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/eMu10FEZ5Z0V20B4bt0AU -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "And 1.1.81 is officially BugFree(tm), so if you receive any bug-reports on it, you know they are just evil lies." -- Linux Torvalds * TAG! v3.1 *

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Re: [Wlug] Linux Redhat 7.3 Remote Boot Installation.
by Karl Hiramoto 22 Jul '03

22 Jul '03

from the mirrors: http://www.redhat.com/download/mirror.html read the docs: ftp://ftp.webtrek.com/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/9/en/doc the root of the install treee: ftp://ftp.webtrek.com/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/9/en/os/i386 The images directory ftp://ftp.webtrek.com/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/9/en/os/i386/images On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Aramico wrote: > Thanks Karl, > > > But, I did not see any images directory here... > Hmm, what a day..!! > > Do you have any other detail information to release it ? > > Thanks. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karl Hiramoto" <karl(a)zoop.org> > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Linux Redhat 7.3 Remote Boot Installation. > > > > > > under the redhat linux distro images/ directory write the bootdisk.img > > and drvnet.img to a disk. > > > > dd if=bootdisk.img of=/dev/fd0 > > dd if=drvnet.img of=/dev/fd0 > > > > boot the computer with the bootdisk, and insert the network driver > > disk when prompted. > > > > I would suggest installing redhat 9.0 versus 7.3 > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Aramico wrote: > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > Can you help me that where or how can I create a bootable disk for Linux > Remote Installation ? > > > So, I can do Linux Installation using ftp, nis, or http under tcp/ip. > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > Aramico > > > > -- > > > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > > Cell: 508-517-4819 > > http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > > > For those who like this sort of thing, this is the sort of thing they > like. > > -- Abraham Lincoln > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 http://karl.hiramoto.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Klingon phaser attack from front!!!!! 100% Damage to life support!!!!

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Possible Linux Sysadmin Job!
by Keller, Tim 22 Jul '03

22 Jul '03

Hey, A buddy of mine just dropped me a mail asking me if he knew of anybody looking for linux sysadmin job... Drop me a line and I'll send you in the right direction. Tim.

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Postal Experiements
by Charles R. Anderson 18 Jul '03

18 Jul '03

I mentioned this at the BBQ...you might find this funny. http://www.improb.com/airchives/paperair/volume6/v6i4/postal-6-4.html -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

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RSVP for Party...
by Keller, Tim 16 Jul '03

16 Jul '03

Andy, I will be attending the BBQ. Thanks, Tim.

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mozilla can't find my mail
by Gregory Avedissian 16 Jul '03

16 Jul '03

My filesystem got crunched, and mozilla stopped seeing all my mail messages and accounts. I tried re-installing (1.3) and it still doesn't see anything. I got this error message - error occurred reading the startup config file line 258 SyntaxError: unterminated long string literal. user_pref("mail.newsrc_root"), "home/avedis/.mozi# HTTP Cookie File I'm not clear on what or where the startup config file is. Is there an easy way to save this? I'm probably going to upgrade from SuSE 7.2 to Debian 3 in about a week, so maybe it doesn't matter. I have backup copies of all my mail files on another drive, and I hope to resurrect those after I re-install everything. Instructions for doing that might be more useful. Thanks. Greg

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Linux programming Job
by Andy Stewart 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

If interested, please reply directly to Chris Currier and not me or the list. Later, Andy ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Linux programming Job Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:22:57 -0400 From: "Chris" <chris(a)abbottsearch.com> To: <jabr(a)blu.org>, <cclug(a)capecod.net>, <info(a)wemalu.org>, <andystewart(a)attbi.com>, <linux(a)beaver.wpi.edu> Hello, I got your email off GLUE. I am looking for someone for a full time job in NH. Need to have solid Linux experience working with drivers and kernels. Any help is appreciated and a finders fee will be awarded to the individual who puts me in touch with the appropriate person. Chris Currier Principal Abbott Executive Search 603-669-9909 ex 205 603-321-6292 mobile 603-606-5502 fax ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Reminder: WLUG BBQ - Wednesday, July 16th - 6 PM
by Andy Stewart 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

HI Everybody, Don't forget about the annual WLUG BBQ to be held on Wednesday at Doug Waud's house in Shrewsbury. The start time is 6:00 PM. More details and directions can be found on the WLUG website. Come celebrate WLUG's 6th anniversary! See ya there! -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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installation of nVidia TNT2 M64 PCI video card
by Michael Long 14 Jul '03

14 Jul '03

Hi, I have just installed the above card along side my existing AGP video card. I rebooting using the AGP card and ran Yast2 (SuSE's configuration tool) in order to configure it. Everything seemed to go well. I then rebooted the system, went into the bios and told it to boot using the PCI video card. The system detected the card. Just as SuSE started to boot the system hung right after displaying *GRUB Loading Stage2*. Any suggestions on how to resolve this would be appreciated. The system specs: SuSE 8.2 (clean install as of last week) ABIT KT7/KT7-RAID motherboard 800 mhz AMD Athlon 512mb RAM ATI Rage 128 AGP video (old) nVidia TNT2 M64 PCI video (new) Thanks, Mike

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IPSec -- Thank you!
by Skip Gaede 11 Jul '03

11 Jul '03

Hi Mike, I personally want to thank you for taking the time to help me setup an IPSec tunnel using FreeS/WAN. It's nice to know that there are people like you who are willing to invest the time to bring a newbie up to speed. Thanks again, Skip

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spamassassin/procmail question
by Bill Mills-Curran 10 Jul '03

10 Jul '03

I have successfully set up spamassassin on my Red Hat 8 box but I thought I'd try to install a new version so I could use the Bayesian filters. **************** Old version: After installing the rpm, all I needed was a .forward file: "| /usr/bin/spamassassin || exit 75" and I also needed to add a sym link to spamassassin in the /etc/smrsh directory. It worked fine. **************** New version 2.44 and 2.55 (I got the 2.44 from Red Hat 9, I got the 2.55 from the spamassassin web site): My email just disappears, but there are some words about needing to use procmail to invoke spamassassin. So, I changed my .forward: "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #bcurran" And, I added a .procmailrc: :0fw: spamassassin.lock | /usr/bin/spamassassin I added /usr/bin/procmail symlink to /etc/smrsh. I get messages in /var/log/maillog like this: Jul 7 13:24:10 pent584 smrsh: uid 21245: attempt to use "IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #bcurran" (stat failed) Jul 7 13:24:10 pent584 sendmail[22616]: h67HO9OM022615: to="|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #bcurran", ctladdr=<bcurran(a)pent584.us.dg.com> (21245/111), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30518, dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable Jul 7 13:24:10 pent584 sendmail[22616]: h67HO9OM022615: h67HOAOM022616: DSN: Service unavailable Jul 7 13:24:10 pent584 smrsh: uid 21245: attempt to use "IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #bcurran" (stat failed) Jul 7 13:24:10 pent584 sendmail[22616]: h67HOAOM022616: to="|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #bcurran", ctladdr=<bcurran(a)pent584.us.dg.com> (21245/111), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31542, dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable Jul 7 13:24:10 pent584 sendmail[22616]: h67HOAOM022616: h67HOAON022616: return to sender: Service unavailable Jul 7 13:24:10 pent584 smrsh: uid 21245: attempt to use "IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #bcurran" (stat failed) Jul 7 13:24:10 pent584 sendmail[22616]: h67HOAON022616: to="|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #bcurran", ctladdr=bcurran (21245/111), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=32566, dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable **************** My best guess is that the .forward file isn't right, and I'm haven't been a procmail user, so I'm not at all sure what it needs. I got the .forward contents from the spamassassin docs. Any ideas what I need to do? TIA, Bill

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looking for free login software...
by Stephen C. Daukas 10 Jul '03

10 Jul '03

Anyone aware of free software (CGI, et al.) that i can use for my website that would allow users to create a login (with approval), and to log those logins, and so on? I really don't have the time to write one myself and I'm sure they are out there somewhere... Thanks! Steve

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Annual WLUG BBQ - July 16th - Wed - 6 PM
by Andy Stewart 10 Jul '03

10 Jul '03

HI Everybody, The annual WLUG BBQ will be held in place of our next meeting! The BBQ will be held at Doug Waud's house in Shrewsbury, MA. Thanks, Doug! Directions can be found on the WLUG website. WLUG will supply burgers, dogs, chips, soda. Feel free to bring other food items that you might like to share with the rest of us. You may also BYOB if you so desire. The rain date will be on Thursday, July 17th. Call Doug's house directly if there is any question about the weather. Try www.switchboard.com and search for "Waud" in "Shrewsbury MA". Please RSVP to Andy Stewart so we have some idea how much food to purchase. See ya there! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Seting up IPSec
by Skip Gaede 08 Jul '03

08 Jul '03

Hi, I'd like to try setting up a FreeS/Wan IPSec tunnel between my network and anyone who has a static IP address for test purposes. My cable connection is assigned by DHCP, but I have a registered name for the address, sgaede.ne.client2.attbi.com. On my private subnet, I have a second PC. I can run Win98, W2K, and a couple flavors of Linux on my gateway, and Linux / Win98 on my private subnet. I've tried setting up a connection between the two boxes, but it fails because the two machines are on the same subnet... Anyone interested? Thanks, Skip

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Linux Consulting Services in MA?
by Adam Keck 08 Jul '03

08 Jul '03

Does anyone know of any Linux consulting services in Mass? My company is looking for someone to turn to if we have a linux problem that resists solving. We are a Debian shop. -Adam

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Looking for PHP/Forms help
by John Stoffel 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

Hi All, I've been working on a database with a web interface for the past few years in my spare time, and as you can guess, I haven't had much time lately, and they people I'm doing this for would like to get it wrapped up if possible. I'm looking for someone to help me understand/write PHP code (possibly using PHPLIB and oohforms) to add/edit/delete records in a MySQL database. This isn't really hard, except that I need to be able to add/edit varying numbers of fields in each record. For a better example, take a look at: http://jfs.ecotarium.org/AAS/john/sql-search.php and search for the name "Anderson". As you can see, records can have varying numbers of Roles, References, Addresses, etc. The searching of the DB is working just fine, as you can see, it really just needs some tweaking on the search form side, but the core is all there. I've been beating my head out with the PHPLIB oohforms stuff to try and make it so I can start out with a basic record: heading, ref, role, authority number, note and address. I need to be able to allow the user to add additional roles, references, and addresses when adding records. So does anyone out there have either: 1. good oohforms examples? 2. good ideas on what other PHP libraries I can use to make my life simpler, or ideally some code I can steal, file off the serial numbers, and re-work to do what I need? For some piss poor examples of what I'm trying to do with forms, take a look at: http://jfs.ecotarium.org/AAS/john/test/form.php /sql-add-test.php to see what I've been trying to make work so far. Thanks, John john(a)stoffel.org

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Change of Andy's e-mail address
by Andy Stewart 30 Jun '03

30 Jun '03

Hi Everybody, As of today, my new e-mail address is: andystewart(a)comcast.net Maybe I'll get to keep this one for a while...... -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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