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ssh woes followup
by mhughes＠wpidalamar.com 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

Also... From both machines, I can scp to an external machine. These 2 boxes I'm having problems with are on opposite sides of an intracompany vpn. Could I be having problems with the vpn? The VPN is a big-expensive end to end hardware solution that I don't get to play with. If it were that, any ideas on how I could prove that to corporate IT? Please note... it's possible that the vpn has nothing to do with the problem. -Marc

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SSH doesn't like me.
by mhughes＠wpidalamar.com 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

So I use rsync over ssh to copy up & down a lot of stuff nighlty between servers. On Monday, it all went to crap and won't work anymore. The rsync's just never finish. So I went ahead and tried to use scp to copy the stuff over manually.. and now IT times out! It transfers about 168KB, then goes "STALLED". If I have a file smaller than 168kb, it goes through the entire progress-meter, but then scp hangs, never returns, and the file it supposedly copied up is 0 length. No special parameters on the scp or anything, but I do get a weird message: scp * hughesm@apollo.tomsnyder.com:/data/www/htdocs/playtesting/ In my syslog... I don't anything weird. Aug 28 15:17:17 apollo sshd[9774]: Could not reverse map address 10.1.0.249. Aug 28 15:17:17 apollo sshd[9774]: Accepted rsa for hughesm from 10.1.0.249 port 637 Aug 28 15:17:17 apollo PAM_unix[9776]: (sshd) session opened for user hughesm by (uid=500) I have ssh keys set up for passwordless login. I've restarted ssh (making sure ALL the sshd processes died), I've killed off all the rsync processes. Interactive ssh seems to work fine. Production machines that can't really be rebooted. Any Ideas? -Marc

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Next meeting: topic?
by Andy Stewart 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

HI everybody, Since our next meeting will be the first meeting of the academic year with the WPI students, do people think that a "What is Linux" meeting, geared for neophytes, would be a good meeting topic? We could also assess the interest level in having a campus install fest in the library (perhaps in October), as we've done in the past. Your thoughts? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Middlesex Community College - Linux teaching position info
by Andy Stewart 25 Aug '03

25 Aug '03

Their home page is : http://www.middlesex.cc.ma.us/ They have campuses in Lowell and Bedford. Here's the Linux link : http://www.middlesex.cc.ma.us/jobs/PT%20FAC%20COMPUTER%20&%20ENGINEERING.htm -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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More SCSI hard drive woes
by Andy Stewart 24 Aug '03

24 Aug '03

HI everybody, I recently sent a SCSI drive back to Hitachi for warranty replacement. In the interim, I purchased a Maxtor replacement drive. It has been working fine for about 2 weeks, and now this new drive is tossing read errors at me(!). Did I just get (un)lucky, or could something in my system be causing this? Some have suggested checking the power supply. I've run memtest and it passed for a 12 hour test. I've swapped ports on the 2-port SCSI card. I'm at a loss as to why this continues to occur. Any thoughts? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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LTSP training video online
by Andy Stewart 24 Aug '03

24 Aug '03

HI everybody, This link might prove interesting for folks with very fast Internet connections: http://www.lpbn.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=50&mo… If that doesn't work, try this: http://www.lpbn.org Click "The Mandrake Hour" (left side) Click the second video "The Linux Terminal Server Installation" It works for me with the Linux verison of RealPlay. I remember a brain storming session many of us had in the WPI Library parking lot after a WLUG meeting where we thought about making Linux training videos. We'll, somebody is doing it! On the Linux Public Broadcasting Network, there are many other videos. Check them out: http://www.lpbn.org Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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RE: [Wlug] AMD systems
by Simoncini, Matthew 22 Aug '03

22 Aug '03

Mike, Just called 1-877-4-turing and they said there are no more "system 3.0" systems left and the "system 4.0" systems only come with 256MB RAM. The guy I spoke to wasn't willing to come down on the price at all, but agreed to give me the 512MB RAM for an additional $25. Just wanted to let everyone know what they were willing to offer me. Matthew > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Peckar [mailto:fog@fognet.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:40 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] AMD systems > > > > My 11 yr. old is finishing up his computer camp this week and > the camp is > selling off it's inventory. All systems must be picked up > 8/23 (sat.) in > Burlington, MA at the camp (Hampton Inn next to the Naked Fish off the > Middlesex Tkp 2-3 miles N of the Burlington Mall near Sun campus). > > Contact is mail(a)campturing.com. > > If interested, probably should call asap 1-877-4-turing to > reserve/negotiate > your system. They have many more of the "4's" than the "3's"... > > "system 3.0" -- $600 "system 4.0" -- $600 > Med. Silver tower (w/ window) Med. Black tower > 1.44 floppy 1.44 floppy > 16x dvd-rom 16x dvd rom > 10/100 enet 10/100 enet > Kbd, mouse kbd, mouse > Shuttle AK31A VIA KT266A 4xagp DDR MSI K7N2 Delta-L Nforce2 > (FSB 400) 8xAGP DDR > AMD Athlon XP 1800+ (1.53 GHz 266Mhz) AMD Althon XP > 1800+ (1.53 GHz > 266Mhz) > 2 X 256 DDR266 PC2100 2 X 256 > DDR400 PC3200 > 60GB 7200 ATA100 40GB 7200 ATA100 > AOPEN Gforce2 MX400 64mb 4xAGP MSI GFORCE4 > MX440 64mb 8xAGP TV > CTX 17" .27mm 1280x1024 MGC 17" .27mm 1280x1024 > 56k v.90 FAX w/ Voice > > Upgrades: > Cyber Acoustics 2.1 ($20) 2 x 256 - 512MB DDR400 > PC3200 ($60) > Cd-RW ($65) > 40GB+80GB=120GB 7200 > ATA133 (-40GB 7200 ATA100)($105) > DVD-RW ($220) 56k v.90 FAX w/ > Voice ($20) > > Firewire ($25) Cd-RW ($65) > Win xp home ($95) DVD-RW ($220) > Win xp pro ($145) Firewire ($25) > Win xp > home ($95) > Win xp > pro ($145) > > Do say you're a friend of "Charlie's Dad" and that should be > good for better > discounts. > Don't reply to me - I'm too busy in the next week or so to > provide timely > replies > Also, do let me know if you got a good deal... > > Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Wyse 520 terminals
by Clint Moyer 22 Aug '03

22 Aug '03

If anyone is interested, you can pick up one or more cheap locally: http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?a=tpc&s=50009562&f=57909216&m…

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Re: [Wlug] LTSP meeting slides
by Michael Long 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Andy, thank you for the excellent talk and demo. The tools available to the linux community are top notch. The LTSP project is a prime example of that fact. I would like to suggest a talk on the OpenVPN project for the next meeting. I think it would be really cool if WLUG could sponser a project this winter that involved setting up a network w/ VPN, securing it and then attempting to hack it to find its vulnerabilities. This is probably a naive idea for many reasons...but I think many of us would be interested in learning the proper way of installing, securing, and maintaining our networks. Cheers, Mike > > Hi Everybody, > > I've just posted the slides from the previous WLUG meeting on the website. > There are in StarOffice format as well as HTML. From the WLUG home page, > scroll down and click the link for "Past Meeting Information". > > For those of you who were unable to attend, I dare say you missed a good > meeting. There were alot of questions and people really seemed interested in > the topic. Fortunately, my client computer booted off of my laptop server > just like it did when I left home. > > I even went out on a limb and attempted to get Doug Waud's computer working as > a client, since the "live demo" concept seems to be a popular feature of WLUG > meetings. I hadn't seen Doug's computer previously, but he did bring the > proper network boot floppy. I "got Doug-ed" the first time (you've got to > watch your cables and power cords around Doug) by a network cable that wasn't > entirely plugged in. By the third attempt, his client booted with minor > video artifacts, probably due to not using the correct XFree86 software. > > I'm soliciting ideas for the next meeting, which will be the first meeting of > the year with the new crop of WPI students. I hope to have a great meeting > planned so that the WPI students will continue to attend, as they constitute > a sizeable percentage of the WLUG membership. > > See ya later, > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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Off topic request- Linux Sys Admin and Massachusetts DET
by Mike Blake 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

Off topic request. Mass DET(unemployment) will pay for Linux Sys Admin courses but I need to ask 3 Linux Sys Admin managers several questions. If anyone could help, I'll can either email the questions or post them here. Thanks for the help, Mike Blake

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possible meeting topic
by Matt Higgins 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

I don't know if this has been done in the past but what about building a freevo box? http://freevo.sourceforge.net

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LTSP meeting slides
by Andy Stewart 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

Hi Everybody, I've just posted the slides from the previous WLUG meeting on the website. There are in StarOffice format as well as HTML. From the WLUG home page, scroll down and click the link for "Past Meeting Information". For those of you who were unable to attend, I dare say you missed a good meeting. There were alot of questions and people really seemed interested in the topic. Fortunately, my client computer booted off of my laptop server just like it did when I left home. I even went out on a limb and attempted to get Doug Waud's computer working as a client, since the "live demo" concept seems to be a popular feature of WLUG meetings. I hadn't seen Doug's computer previously, but he did bring the proper network boot floppy. I "got Doug-ed" the first time (you've got to watch your cables and power cords around Doug) by a network cable that wasn't entirely plugged in. By the third attempt, his client booted with minor video artifacts, probably due to not using the correct XFree86 software. I'm soliciting ideas for the next meeting, which will be the first meeting of the year with the new crop of WPI students. I hope to have a great meeting planned so that the WPI students will continue to attend, as they constitute a sizeable percentage of the WLUG membership. See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Reminder: WLUG Meeting, Thurs Aug 14 - 7:00 PM
by Andy Stewart 14 Aug '03

14 Aug '03

Hi Everybody, This is a friendly reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting on Thursday, August 14, 2003, at 7:00 PM in Olin Hall on the WPI campus. Go into Olin Hall's front door, to the top of the stairs, and we'll be in the big lecture hall on the left. I'll be addressing the group at this meeting, and the topic will be the Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP). Come and learn how to use your old, potentially obsolete hardware as a graphics terminal connected to a more powerful server. I'll demonstrate (live!) how a Pentium 90 with 48 MB of memory and a 10 Mbps ethernet connection could be used effectively as an LTSP client, running any Linux program that is installed on the server. I've also got a couple of those Linux Format magazines for raffle (one with a CD, the other with a DVD). I'll have sodas and cookies also for refreshments. After the meeting, we'll make our monthly pilgrimage to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beers. All are welcome to attend. There is no admission fee for admittance to a WLUG meeting. Donations are always welcome but not required. See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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FS: Single Board Computers...
by rb＠millbury.net 10 Aug '03

10 Aug '03

Hi all, I've got some new, old stock, single board computers available. Details at: http://members.cox.net/n1nte/forsale/as-p2vf.html WLUG member discount price is $45. I also have some backplanes available and some other models of these boards. I recently picked up this lot and haven't sorted through them all yet. Email me directly if interested. Thanks - Rob

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Wanted: Used monitor
by Andy Stewart 09 Aug '03

09 Aug '03

Hi everybody, I'm looking for a used monitor as a spare for my basement lab bench: 14" or 15" Multi sync Capable of at least 1024x768 at 72 Hz (or better) Relatively good cosmetic condition Excellent working condition Cheap(!) If you have something which might interest me, contact me directly and we can negotiate. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Hard drive crashed!
by Andy Stewart 09 Aug '03

09 Aug '03

HI everybody, I've been out of touch all week due to a catastrophic hard drive failure. My hard drive is only 1.5 years old and its an IBM Ultrastar 18 GB SCSI drive with a 5 year warranty. IBM/Hitachi will be getting it back assuming it fails their diags, which I have to run as a prerequisite to getting an RMA. Naturally, they are DOS based diags. They have incredibly fussy rules about packing the drive for shipment, lest one voids one's warranty (say that three times fast). Believe it or not, it died while I was doing the tape backup!! I lost about 1 weeks worth of Quicken transactions and the photos from my sister's wedding (which I can recover from CDs previously burned for other family members). I got lucky. The moral of the story is: Make sure you do your backups! This is the 2nd hard drive that I've lost in the last 12 months (the first one was over 5 years old). Or, just run most of your machines as LTSP clients and don't worry about disks..... :-) Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Re: [Wlug] libcrypto.so.4
by Michael Long 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

I found what looks like the source files from a tar package in /usr/src/packages/BUILD/Python-2.2.3. It appears that I could build it by running the usual ./configure make ... process. There are no rpms in /usr/src/packages/RPMS/. Do I need to build the rpm from this? As a reminder I am using the SuSE 8.2 distro so the directory structure is slightly different. --Mike > > Did you install the resulting i386.rpm files from the rebuild step? > They should have ended up in /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386 > > -- > Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ > PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 > Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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Re: [Wlug] libcrypto.so.4
by Michael Long 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

I have discovered that the files in the expat-devel package are already installed on the system so I ran rpmbuild --rebuild --nodeps .... It appeared to compile with a lot of warnings about anti-aliasing. Unfortunately the warnings scrolled out of the term buffer so I don't have the exact warning. This process is very verbose and I don't know if it completed successfully or not. When I query the rpm database it still shows the old version of python. Did I miss a step? > > I should mention, that if you find one that has the expat include > files, but isn't named expat-devel, you can force the build with: > > rpmbuild --rebuild --nodeps .... > > Actually, it might be easier to grab the SuSE python2 src.rpm, and > modify that one to use the new python2-2.2.3 tar source. That way, > your src.rpm will be based on the SuSE one, with all the correct > dependencies for expat, etc: > > rpm -i the-suse-python2-2.2.2.src.rpm > > cd /usr/src/redhat/SPECS > > edit python2.spec to change the version to 2.2.3 and release to > 1custom or similar. > > copy the new python2-2.2.3.tar.gz into /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES > > rpmbuild -ba /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/python2.spec > > -- > Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ > PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 > Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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Re: [Wlug] libcrypto.so.4
by Michael Long 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

What has me concerned is that there is an expat package and it is installed on the system, but I am still getting the missing expat-devel error. The following are the results of the rpm queries: rpm -ql expat | grep include /usr/include/expat.h rpm -qa | grep expat expat-1.95.6-11 --Mike > Do you have an expat package? Most likely then the expat-devel stuff > is in the expat package. List it to see if there are any include > files: > > rpm -ql expat | grep include > > Or see if any other package mentions "expat": > > rpm -qa | grep expat > > If SuSE doesn't have any expat packages available at all, then > rebuilding one probably won't hurt. > > > -- > Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ > PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 > Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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Re: [Wlug] libcrypto.so.4
by Michael Long 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

I have yet another question...when rebuilding the source rpm I get an error saying that I need the expat-devel libraries. My distribution either doesn't come with them or they are part of another package and I am not seeing it. If I download and rebuild the source rpm package for expat-devel from rpmfind.net what is the risk that it will break something on my system. Thanks, Mike > I am using SuSE 8.2 and I found the rpm's on rpmfind.net. The > distribution came with python 2.2.2 but I need python 2.2.3. I looked > for new SuSE packages but did not find them. I will follow your > suggestion and download the src rpm and rebuild it. > > Mike >

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Re: [Wlug] libcrypto.so.4
by Michael Long 06 Aug '03

06 Aug '03

I am using SuSE 8.2 and I found the rpm's on rpmfind.net. The distribution came with python 2.2.2 but I need python 2.2.3. I looked for new SuSE packages but did not find them. I will follow your suggestion and download the src rpm and rebuild it. Mike > > What Linux distribution and release are you using? Where did you get > those RPM packages from? You really should only use RPM packages for > your specific distribution and release. Ideally, you should use the > ones that came as a part of your distribution, if available. > > For example, Red Hat Linux 7.3 has python2 RPMs that come with it, and > newer bug-fixed ones available as errata updates > (ftp://updates.redhat.com/) > > python2-2.2.2-3.7.3.i386.rpm > python2-devel-2.2.2-3.7.3.i386.rpm > python2-docs-2.2.2-3.7.3.i386.rpm > > and Red Hat Linux 9 already has python 2 as the default: > > python-2.2.2-26.i386.rpm > python-optik-1.4-2.noarch.rpm > python-docs-2.2.2-26.i386.rpm > python-devel-2.2.2-26.i386.rpm > python-tools-2.2.2-26.i386.rpm > > If you just grabbed whatever RPM packages you could find, they are > probably not built against the proper versions of your system > libraries, which in your case are openssl and rpm. You cannot just > upgrade system libraries without breaking much of the rest of your > system. > > If you must have that particular version of python2, consider > recompiling the src.rpm so that it will be built against your exact > system library versions: > > rpmbuild --rebuild python2-2.2.3-1.src.rpm > > Then install the resulting binary rpms that are built: > > rpm -Uvh /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/python2-2.2.3-1.i386.rpm > > -- > Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ > PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 > Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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libcrypto.so.4
by Michael Long 06 Aug '03

06 Aug '03

Hi, I am attempting to install the rpm python2-2.2.3-1 and get the following error: edev:/home/mlong # rpm -Uvh python2-2.2.3-1.i386.rpm error: failed dependencies: libcrypto.so.4 is needed by python2-2.2.3-1 libssl.so.4 is needed by python2-2.2.3-1 rpmlib(PartialHardlinkSets) <= 4.0.4-1 is needed by python2-2.2.3-1 I then tried updating openssl-0.9.6i-12 with openssl-0.9.7a-16 and got a large list of failed dependencies. The two files I need are a part of the latest openssl package. How should I go about resolving the python dependencies? Thanks, Mike

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SCO wants $699 for linux systems
by Karl Hiramoto 05 Aug '03

05 Aug '03

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030805/latu094_1.html Its on slashdot. -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 http://karl.hiramoto.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Whether you can hear it or not, The Universe is laughing behind your back. -- National Lampoon, "Deteriorata"

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Re: [Wlug] SLIPS MA Open Source Bill
by rb＠millbury.net 04 Aug '03

04 Aug '03

At 08:26 AM 8/2/2003 -0400, you wrote: >SNIP< Further more I think It would be interesting to get involved with public schools in Worcester to promote the use of Linux. I put up a small page on my web site to address this topic, which I have called SLIPS (Supporting Linux In Public Schools). (btw.. I think the next LUG topic should include LTSP! I have this working in a vmware window using just one comp) Also an admirable goal. However, this one presents an even larger challenge. Looking at it realistically, school system educators (teachers as well as administrators) are the most stubborn, least innovative group I have ever encountered. There are exceptions in each school but to achieve adoption of anything which is not brain-dead simple to use is an impossibility. Linux is far from brain-dead simple to use. Better to concentrate on promoting business usage and then let the school systems lag behind as they always have - unless you are a glutton for punishment. Sounds like you've had some experience with the education system! <grin> As the technology administrator for the Millbury Public School District, I can concur in part. Something new is counter to the culture of many schools. We at Millbury have been using Linux on the server side for many, many years. And, thanks to Skip Gaede on this list, we also ran Mac LTSP clients in one of our libraries. Since schools are not the place for innovation <smirk>, it is difficult to get Linux on the desktop. In many instances, it isn't possible due to the lack of Linux support from most educational software manufacturer. Yes, we could run Win4Lin and all that but that defeats one of the big arguments of client software cost. It also limits and confuses most school staff members who want to evaluate software. If I say, "Can't do it, we run Linux", guess what the next comment will be. In small or specialized environments, I can see great success with infiltrating Linux. In my district, we strive to make all clients identical so that it maximizes our investment. Students can go anywhere in the school and see the same functionality. For me at the moment, putting Linux in one of the labs would limit this flexibility. Linux desktop is not out of the question for schools, just not the best choice *AT THIS TIME* for all instances. If the school is not already heavily invested in Windows curriculum software then some of the many Linux choices would be a good offering. We, for instance, use a $800/PC Windows math program to help boost our students' MCAS scores. We also require all our Sophomores to have a full year of MS Office which they also get a certificate of completion. Like everywhere else, there are politics that go along with technology decisions. Cost, along with "what are the other districts our size doing" are the two big questions you will be confronted with. I have the fortunate situation where I am allowed the freedom to make the best choice for our district. Right now, its a combination of Linux and Windows. If the situation arose that a Linux desktop would be the best choice for the user, then Linux it will be. In fact, that may not be too far off judging from the number of students I've heard of running Linux at home. If anyone else is interested in discussing this subject further, don't hesitate to contact me. I'm glad to see any enthusiasm in bringing OpenSource to schools. - Rob

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SLIPS MA Open Source Bill
by Matt Higgins 04 Aug '03

04 Aug '03

New to the list, and wanted to know what you all thought. I'm looking to put together a bill that will require state gov to consider OSS when sending out RFP's. The bill would mirror those being proposed/stalled in other states such as Washington and Texas. I have been in contact with state Rep Robert Spellane who is positive about the subject. I believe he would be more responsive if the WLUG were also supporting this. Further more I think It would be interesting to get involved with public schools in Worcester to promote the use of Linux. I put up a small page on my web site to address this topic, which I have called SLIPS (Supporting Linux In Public Schools). (btw.. I think the next LUG topic should include LTSP! I have this working in a vmware window using just one comp) Tell me your thoughts ! Matt

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