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Website updated...upcoming activity
by Andy Stewart 29 Jun '04

29 Jun '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody, I've finally gotten around to updating the WLUG website - my apologies for the delay. o slides from June talk are available (bootsplash and gfxboot) o slides from John Rulnick's talk about Bay Path College linux courses Also, an early reminder about the annual WLUG BBQ , which will be held in Shrewsbury, MA USA at Doug Waud's house on Wednesday, July 21st at 6:00 PM (yes, that's 6:00 PM and its not a misprint (is it Doug??)). We will not have a meeting at WPI on this date - we'll all be at Doug's house. Oh, BTW, in years past, Doug has allowed us to use the pool, but for some reason, nobody has ever taken the plunge! This year, we need to change that. :-) No, I don't mean that Doug won't allow us to use the pool, but that we should actually *avail ourselves* of the opportunity. If you have wearable computing, be sure its waterproof. Have a great July 4th weekend ! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA4NGQHl0iXDssISsRAnYpAJ9ukXIUrkLypzdb4MEpzf/KGDHtnACfWCOr djcvaFmFf0/yaElqz6AmVx8= =KurN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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GMAIL
by Marc Hughes 28 Jun '04

28 Jun '04

I got 5 invites to gmail if anyone wants them. Send an email to me (not the list). People I know get first shot, otherwise first-come, first-serve. Please only mail if you really want one and will use it.

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Linux programmer needed
by Andy Stewart 28 Jun '04

28 Jun '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI all, I just received a request for some Linux expertise. - ------ I was wondering if you knew of any programmers (php/apache/mysql) through the WLUG who would be interested in helping me customize the opensourced medical practice and billing management program Openemr (www.synitech.com) - ------ If you are interested in this opportunity, please contact me directly and I'll send you the contact information. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA359LHl0iXDssISsRAp4cAJ9DTGbIVUA1xGHP0BA/aADtiaOFiQCfRecN rQXBnXfuMtkTNzQI5AGF09c= =n1/p -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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by sageman＠WPI.EDU 25 Jun '04

25 Jun '04

Well, before seeing this email, I bought ANSI Common Lisp off amazon the other day and it just came him; reading through it now! I looked at a history of lisp somewhere (I think in a link in the Common Lisp Hypertext, of which I was directed to from reviews on amazon) and heard Scheme described as basically a Pascal equivalent of Scheme in the sense that it was designed to teach, not to use. Of course, knowing nothing about Lisp and its dialects, I believed this, having the new 1000-level CS class that teaches Scheme seem also to point in that direction; hearing your feelings concerning Scheme, however, makes it seem as though I have been misinformed (alas, the curse of the internet!). Well, I'm teaching myself Common Lisp now, anywho. The book I got was highly recommended, both as an introductory Lisp book and as a great reference for Common Lisp. The book is put out by Prentice Hall as part of there Series In Artificial Intelligence, and being that that is what drew me to teaching myself Lisp in the first place, seems like a good place to start. I'll check out one of the local university libraries here (I'm in lower Rhode Island, by the way) and see if I can pick up some of those books you've mentioned. Thank you all very much.

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Books Of Lisp
by sageman＠WPI.EDU 25 Jun '04

25 Jun '04

Hi. Well, I figure since Lisp is such an important language, especially in GNU/Linux systems (favorite of Stallman afterall) I should pose this question to this group. Basically I'm interested in learning Lisp and was wondering if anyone has some favorite or recommended books that describe the syntax of Lisp. Additionally books related to introductory artificial intelligence work, with algorithms, design issues, et cetera, especially books with example Lisp code would be very welcome. Thanks. - Carlton Stedman II

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RE: [Wlug] Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell
by Simoncini, Matthew 24 Jun '04

24 Jun '04

Glad I could be of assistance .. If you like Andy I could bring in a chicken-pot-pie for the next WLUG meeting ;o) -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:42 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: RE: [Wlug] Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 24 June 2004 9:55 am, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > Easy Chicken Pot Pie > > * 2 frozen pie shells > * 1 10 3/4 oz Cream of Mushroom Soup > * 1/2 cup milk > * 1 bag frozen mixed vegetables > * 2 Cups cooked chopped chicken > * 1 teaspoon minced garlic > * 1 small onion > * Coarse ground black pepper, to taste > > Preheat oven to 375 degrees. Take pie shells out of freezer, separate, > lay one pie shell flat, leaving the other in the pie pan, and thaw for > 10 minutes. Meanwhile, defrost frozen veggies in microwave, chop and > sautee onion. Mix defrosted veggies, sauteed onion, garlic, soup and > milk in large mixing bowl. Pour into pie shell, top with flattened pie > shell. Pinch edges together and poke holes in top crust. Bake for > about 30-40 minutes or until crusts are done. Now I've seen everything. :-) When PCs first came out, we were told that one good use would be to keep our recipes on them. OK, after all of these years, I have my first recipe on my hard drive due to Matt's email. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA2uhgHl0iXDssISsRAiawAJ4xIVLyiyPIDThClZAwwLqlji/ZSACfaWgR ecmNdV2KEndVl0laAZWRMik= =Xjnt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] GMAIL
by Casey Rankin 24 Jun '04

24 Jun '04

I would like an invite if you could spare one? Thanks Casey >I got 5 invites to gmail if anyone wants them. > >Send an email to me (not the list). People I know get first shot, >otherwise first-come, first-serve. Please only mail if you really >want one and will use it. > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >

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RE: [Wlug] Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell
by Simoncini, Matthew 24 Jun '04

24 Jun '04

Easy Chicken Pot Pie * 2 frozen pie shells * 1 10 3/4 oz Cream of Mushroom Soup * 1/2 cup milk * 1 bag frozen mixed vegetables * 2 Cups cooked chopped chicken * 1 teaspoon minced garlic * 1 small onion * Coarse ground black pepper, to taste Preheat oven to 375 degrees. Take pie shells out of freezer, separate, lay one pie shell flat, leaving the other in the pie pan, and thaw for 10 minutes. Meanwhile, defrost frozen veggies in microwave, chop and sautee onion. Mix defrosted veggies, sauteed onion, garlic, soup and milk in large mixing bowl. Pour into pie shell, top with flattened pie shell. Pinch edges together and poke holes in top crust. Bake for about 30-40 minutes or until crusts are done. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Hughes Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 4:29 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell Wow.. I've lived here for nearly a year and never thought of that. I bet it would work. See.. the wlug list solves all sorts of problems. Anyone got a good recipe for chicken pot pie? :) Thanks! -Marc On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:17:34 -0400, Al Reinhart <reinhart(a)discom.com> wrote: > > For a shipping address do: > Name > Street Address > PO Box Number > City, State, Zip > The post office (is suppose to) read the address for the bottom up, > i.e., if USPS is used it goes to the PO box, if a package shipping > company is used they have the street address. > > ---------------------------------------------- > Al Reinhart Phone: 508.869.6417 > DisCom Systems EMail: Reinhart(a)DisCom.com > www.DisCom.com > > > > Marc Hughes wrote: > > Just a small rant about the questionare for anyone out there > > creating a web based forms like this. > > > > You need to let the person know how you're going to ship whatever > > you're shipping. Some people can't get postal mail at their street > > address, but can't get UPS/FEDEX at their PO box. Luckily I > > correctly guessed my postal address :) Can't wait to see if there's > > some neato stuff in there. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:00:55 -0400, Bill Smith <wsmith(a)chezsmith.com> wrote: > > > >>On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 21:04:29 -0400 > >>Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Novell is offering a free Linux Technical Resource kit to WLUG members > >>>(and other LUGs, I'm sure). To get it, you'll need to go to their > >>>website and answer a bunch of questions. Here is the information, > >>>in case you are interested. If anybody gets one of these, I'd be > >>>curious to know what they think of it. > >> > >>Sweeet.... > >> > >>I just filled out the questionaire. the final page had this to say: > >> > >> Thank you William ! Your Linux Technical Resource Kit has been > >> successfully received. > >> We will contact you by e-mail as soon as your order ships. Delivery > >> will be made via US Postal Service, first-class mail. If you > >> have any questions on your order, please contact us. > >> > >>Ahhhh... this will be the first time i've played with SuSE since > >>around 1997. :) > >> > >>-- > >> > >>William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com > >>Fall River, MA > >> > >>"The future is known. It's the past which is always changing." > >> -- Soviet dissident joke > >> > >> > >> > >>noname - 1K > >>noname - 1K Download > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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NFS filesystem no longer mounts
by albutler33＠netscape.net 22 Jun '04

22 Jun '04

Hello all, I created an NFS filesystem to export from my server, which has been working fine up til now. On my production machine, when I go to mount my NFS filesystem, I'm starting to get this error message: mount: RPC: Program not registered Does anyone know what this means? Thanks, Al Butler __________________________________________________________________ Switch to the New Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

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Wanted : Cobalt Qube 2
by J Schonberg 16 Jun '04

16 Jun '04

Is there any one currently on this list who might have a Cobalt Qube 2 around that they would be willing to part with? I'm seeking a Linux based MIPS platform to experiment with and this seems to be a reasonable solution. If you happen to have one, please let me know. Thanks. Jason. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

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remote burning
by gma2004＠verizon.net 15 Jun '04

15 Jun '04

Anyone know if there's a way to control a cdrw on a win98 box from my linux box? With Samba, I can mount and read any of the drives on the win box, but I want to be able to burn. How do I list this remote burner as a device in linux so that I can use it? I tried cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI, but it only looks locally. Is there some way to link a block device to a target on another machine? Don't ask why I want to do this. "Because it's there" is probably the best answer I can give. Or at least I think it's there. Maybe not. Thanks, Greg Avedissian

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RE: [Wlug] remote burning
by Keller, Tim 15 Jun '04

15 Jun '04

The other kludgy solution would be to install VNC on the windows machine, copy the ISO to a windows share via samba, then just connect to the machine and run Nero/EasyCD/etc. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Brian J. Conway [mailto:bconway@alum.wpi.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 11:57 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] remote burning On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 gma2004(a)verizon.net wrote: > Anyone know if there's a way to control a cdrw on a win98 box from my > linux box? With Samba, I can mount and read any of the drives on the win > box, but I want to be able to burn. How do I list this remote burner as > a device in linux so that I can use it? > > I tried cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI, but it only looks locally. Is there > some way to link a block device to a target on another machine? > > Don't ask why I want to do this. "Because it's there" is probably the > best answer I can give. Or at least I think it's there. Maybe not. This definitely isn't what you're trying to accomplish, but if you have DirectCD or something similar installed on the Windows system (which lets you access the writeable CD like a fixed disk), you could share it with write access, and dump files onto it and manipulate it like a hard disk via Samba. The CD could then be removed and used on any system that could understand that format, which I believe is anything with DirectCD, or a Linux box with UDF support (I could be wrong, but I thought that used packet writing). You wouldn't be able to close the disc from Linux or write an ISO file like you could with something you have direct access to, though, as previously mentioned. Brian J. Conway bconway(at)alum.wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Linux kernel development project in MA
by Martin, Eric 15 Jun '04

15 Jun '04

Oo.O (Openoffice.Org) to the rescue!!! -----Original Message----- From: Mike Frysinger [mailto:vapier@gentoo.org] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 3:15 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Linux kernel development project in MA On Wednesday 09 June 2004 11:49 am, ken(a)netguru-system.com wrote: > Senior Linux Kernel developer--- 5 Plus years of software development > in Linux/Unix development including systems level Unix development. > Contact Ken with resume in word format so you want a hardcore Linux developer but they also must use the MS Word format ? :) -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Dell Dimension 270GX... stuck on sound...
by Keller, Tim 15 Jun '04

15 Jun '04

So, Generally, I don't ask for help in these matters, I just grind it out and figure out the problem, but I'm just stuck. I've got this nice shiny new dell here and everything works great, duel monitors, USB, gigE, the works, except for the sound. Looking in /proc/pci I see it shows the audio card as... "Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 2)." Now, it shows the card as being supported and it looks like ALSA is loading a gackle of drivers (and I checked and they've been unmuted...) yet no sound. (Yes, I did check to make sure I had the speakers plugged into the right jack...) Has anybody had any experience getting this sound card to work? Note: It is integrated... I'll continue to probe the deep waters (i.e. Google) for answers... Thanks, Tim.

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High-speed access questions
by Gregory Avedissian 15 Jun '04

15 Jun '04

It seems like most of the providers say that you need windows or mac to use their DSL or cable internet. Does this just mean they won't offer tech support for linux, or does it mean that it won't work? I'm planning on using a router and having two computers connected. Has anyone had luck with linux and Verizon DSL? They're down to $35/month, and they give you the modem. Anyone know of better deals? Thanks. Greg

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generic windows printer driver for postscript?
by Bill Mills-Curran 14 Jun '04

14 Jun '04

I have a windows-only (sigh) program that prints maps. It doesn't have a print-to-file option, so I add a "file" printer in windows printer setup. Can any give me a recommendation for a generic (clean) postscript printer driver? My intent is to print to a samba file share on linux and review the postscript print file with gv to select specific pages. The HP driver doesn't make nice postscript. Thanks, Bill

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CRT or LCD ?
by Andy Stewart 14 Jun '04

14 Jun '04

HI all, My 9 year old Nokia 447X CRT monitor appears to be on its way out. At maximum brightness and contrast, I can't get a good picture. I'm using xgamma to crank up the colors, but that creates a washed out display. The picture size wavers and occasionally goes out of sync. I think I got my $1000 worth out of this monitor! At the risk of starting a religious war, I'm wondering if I can get some objective commentary regarding CRT vs LCD and any issues there might be with Linux. I would like a display that can do at least 1280x1024@75Hz and possibly up to 1600x1200@75Hz. I think that puts me in the 18" - 19" monitor category, which is OK with me (I have a 17" monitor now). I occasionally play games but mostly its text, websurfing, email, and some photo editing. Does the LCD quality degrade when using the VGA input vs. the DVI input (assuming that the monitor has both) ? Are there any major Linux related issues when using the DVI output of a video card ? Thanks in advance for your thoughts, opinions, flames, etc. :-) Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Reminder: Upcoming meeting
by Andy Stewart 13 Jun '04

13 Jun '04

HI Everybody, This coming Thursday, June 17th, will be our next WLUG meeting, to be held at the usual place at 7:00 PM. At this meeting, we have the unusual benefit of having two speakers. First, I will give a short talk about the "bootsplash" software and how it can liven up your session while the computer boots. You can read more about it at http://www.bootsplash.org. This software has been used by the last several SuSE Linux releases, but it also works with other distributions. If you want to jazz up your computer display while the machine boots, this is the software you want to install. After that, I'll give the floor to John Rulnick, who asked to address the WLUG memebership. John's short talk will be about a weekend program he is involved with launching at Bay Path College. To quote John: === The focus [of the talk] would be on a new weekend program I'm involved with launching at Bay Path College Central Mass Center that's aimed at developing Linux-savvy sys-, net-, and database admins. I suppose there may be some potential students in WLUG, but just as likely (more likely) there may be folks interested in teaching in the program. I could talk about pretty much any aspect of the program that interests people. === I'll bring the usual soda/cookies to the meeting, and I'll put out the donation box for those folks who choose to make a small donation to WLUG. After the meeting, we'll make our pilgrimage to the Boynton Restaurant. See ya then! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Linux kernel development project in MA
by ken＠netguru-system.com 12 Jun '04

12 Jun '04

Senior Linux Kernel developer--- 5 Plus years of software development in Linux/Unix development including systems level Unix development. Experience with Linux SCSI and PCI hot plug support a huge plus. 5 Months project. Any interest?? Contact Ken with resume in word format with bill rate and availability Ken Rosenfield Netguru Systems Sr. Account Representative 240 Bear Hill Road, Suite 101 Waltham, MA 02451 USA Phone:(781) 890-GURU x306 or 1-800-587-7466 x306 Cell:(781)910-1004 Fax:(781) 890-5990 Email:ken@netguru.com www.netguru.com Netguru has just released version 4.2 enterprise edition of ereview . It is a web based collaborative software , for more information on ereview , please visit www.ereviewonline.com

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email sending problem with comcast
by Andy Stewart 11 Jun '04

11 Jun '04

HI all, This is driving me nuts...I still have that problem where I get intermittent failures while sending email, even after hard coding the IP number for smtp.comcast.net (they normally have 4 different IPs...I hard coded one to make debug easier). Does anybody know the SMTP protocol sufficiently that they could help me debug this problem ? I have ethereal traces - one when it works, and another when it doesn't. I see differences, but I don't know why, nor do I know what I should do as a remedy. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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RE: [Wlug] Hibernation
by Martin, Eric 11 Jun '04

11 Jun '04

Ok, I'm using 2.4. Yes, ACPI is more recent than APM....I tried 2.6 once and stuff worked oddly, so I went back to 2.4 (2.4 gentoo-sources as opposed to ck-2.6 for all you gentoo buffs). Thank you all, I guess I'll have to get 2.6 working... Eric -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:30 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Hibernation On Thursday 10 June 2004 3:54 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 10 June 2004 02:53 pm, Martin, Eric wrote: > > does anybody know of a hibernate mode in linux (suspend to disk)? > > If there is, where? If there isn't, how hard is that to code? > > my ppc laptop has suppport via the hardware in 2.6 ... there's also > 'Software Suspend' and 'Suspend-to-Disk' support in 2.6 for all x86 > machines ... -mike Note that my laptop is running a 2.6 kernel and that the hibernate mode works pretty well, actually! When the user invokes the hibernate mode (suspend to disk) the software writes its info into the swap file, and then the machine powers off. When the machine is later powered on and starts to boot, a parameter is passed to the kernel which tells it to look at the swap file. If the swap file has valid "hibernate info" in it, the machine will resume that state, otherwise it will perform a normal boot sequence. I'm pretty sure I'm using ACPI, which is (I believe) a more recent standard than APM. Check to see what your hardware supports. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Hibernation
by Martin, Eric 10 Jun '04

10 Jun '04

does anybody know of a hibernate mode in linux (suspend to disk)? If there is, where? If there isn't, how hard is that to code? Eric

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New meeting schedule posted
by Andy Stewart 10 Jun '04

10 Jun '04

HI all, Please check the recently updated WLUG website for the meeting schedule for the next 12 months or so. Note that we'll be having our annual WLUG BBQ at Doug Waud's house on Wednesday, July 21 (weather permitting). More details forthcoming. I'm still seeing a volunteer to run the June meeting with some topic of interest. Otherwise, I'll have to cram and give a presentation about the bootsplash software, which would be tough for me to demo since VMware doesn't work on SuSE 9.1 (yet). See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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RE: Usenix Conference June 27-July 2
by albutler33＠netscape.net 09 Jun '04

09 Jun '04

wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Subject: [Wlug] Fwd: Usenix Conference in Boston June 27-July 2 >Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 21:42:43 -0400 >From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > >-- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA USA >http://www.wlug.org >

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Fwd: Usenix Conference in Boston June 27-July 2
by Andy Stewart 09 Jun '04

09 Jun '04

-- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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