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How to setup Samba
by Pierce Barnard Nov. 11, 2002

Nov. 11, 2002

Hello, I am trying to configure Samba on my Suse Box to share files with my Windows ME box. Is there a webpage or document that I can use to set up Samba?

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RE: [Wlug] Routing problem -can I believe the ISP tech? #2
by Richard Goodman Nov. 9, 2002

Nov. 9, 2002

> > >> Firewall is based on IPChains firewall from Ziegler's book "Linux >> Firewalls" 1st ed, which denies all then allows as needed. I've >> triple-checked the firewall -- the only non-comment changes made were >> all added ACCEPT statements, all cut&pasted from the Home firewall. >> There are no IP-specific denies that I added to the firewall - and I >> haven't updated rc.firewall.blocked in months. > >Sounds like you're further up on Linux firewalling than I am, actually. For >myself, I run a modified Linux Router Project disk image, and let NAT and >Portsentry take care of most of my issues. If you say it's clean, then it >must be clean. Understand though, the techs will NEVER believe this. At ALL. >If you made changes to a firewall and then you couldn't access, it's >Somebody Else's Problem, and that's their professional opinion. (I should >know, I was one. :) ) > Well, the problem was in the firewall, but it doesn't explain EVERYTHING that happened. After two hours on the phone Mon afternoon with Qwest tech support level 2, they insisted I try ping/traceroute with the firewall disabled. Pings moved through as expected ...hmmmm I'd been through the firewall code so many times I just about had it memorized, so I decided to look at the file rc.firewall.blocked which it reads, which has of a list of IPChains statements blocking IP#s (which the main firewall doesn't do). I hadn't really updated this much recently, because when someone started banging on the firewall, it was tough to know if it was a static IP or not. Anyways ... found TWO entries that were <Home IP#>/24 and <Home network>/24 ... basically the same thing. Don't remember putting THOSE in there <g> When I rebuilt the last hacked machine (EFO) I copied rc.firewall and rc.firewall.blocked from the home machine, because I couldn't read the copies I'd backed up from EFO.... so the block against the Home IP was at both ends of the link. The only mystery is why everything worked for two hours Friday night before I reloaded the EFO firewall -- because the rc.firewall.blocked file hadn't been changed in more than a week, and had already been loaded with the firewall when I first brought up the EFO server on Friday. Now if I could get any takers on finding out why none of my servers can send email to each other (but only each other) since they were upgrade from RH7.0 to RH7.3 (sendmail 8.11.6) I'll be all set. [Email to list 10/31] Dick

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RE: [Wlug] Procmail Question
by Marc Hughes Nov. 8, 2002

Nov. 8, 2002

OK, spamassasin looks pretty damned cool ... I love the "reasons" why something is spam. -Marc SPAM: Content analysis details: (8.10 hits, 5 required) SPAM: TO_NO_USER (1.7 points) To: has no local-part before @ sign SPAM: SMTPD_IN_RCVD (1.2 points) Received via SMTPD32 server (SMTPD32-n.n) SPAM: X_PRIORITY_HIGH (0.4 points) Sent with 'X-Priority' set to high SPAM: X_MSMAIL_PRIORITY_HIGH (0.4 points) Sent with 'X-Msmail-Priority' set to high SPAM: USER_AGENT_OE (0.2 points) X-Mailer header indicates a non-spam MUA (Outlook Express) SPAM: ACT_NOW (0.3 points) BODY: Act Now! Don't Hesitate! SPAM: EXCUSE_14 (0.2 points) BODY: Tells you how to stop further spam SPAM: EXCUSE_1 (0.1 points) BODY: Gives an excuse about why you were sent this spam SPAM: SPAM_PHRASE_03_05 (1.1 points) BODY: Spam phrases score is 03 to 05 (medium) SPAM: [score: 3] SPAM: BIG_FONT (0.3 points) BODY: FONT Size +2 and up or 3 and up SPAM: HTML_WITH_BGCOLOR (0.3 points) BODY: HTML mail with non-white background SPAM: HTML_FONT_COLOR_RED (0.3 points) BODY: HTML font color is red SPAM: HTML_50_70 (0.3 points) BODY: Message is 50-70% HTML tags SPAM: HTML_FONT_COLOR_NOHASH (0.2 points) BODY: HTML font color is missing hash ( SPAM: HTML_FONT_COLOR_BLUE (0.2 points) BODY: HTML font color is blue SPAM: MISSING_MIMEOLE (0.5 points) Message has X-MSMail-Priority, but no X-MimeOLE SPAM: CTYPE_JUST_HTML (0.4 points) HTML-only mail, with no text version -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:13 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Procmail Question On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 10:07:37AM -0500, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > :0: > * 1^1 ^From.*jenny(a)axte84\.com > * 1^1 ^Subject.*MILLION OPT-IN EMAIL ADDRESSES > Badspam Oops, slight update: :0: * 1^0 ^From.*jenny(a)axte84\.com * 1^0 ^Subject.*MILLION OPT-IN EMAIL ADDRESSES Badspam I believe they'd be functionally equivilent for you, but the first one keeps looking for matches after the first hit. The second one stops at 1 hit, so it's more efficient. :) There's a nice discussion about this stuff at: http://www.rosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de/mailing-lists/procmail/1998-01/msg0 0335.html :) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "This is a beta release of Red Hat Linux. It is not intended for mission critical applications. It's not even intended for non-mission critical applications. Important data should not be entrusted to Wolverine, as it may eat it and make loud belching noises." - RedHat Beta release "Wolverine"

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RE: [Wlug] Procmail Question
by Marc Hughes Nov. 8, 2002

Nov. 8, 2002

With the locking (:0:) all seems to work now. I'm guessing it's because I have an IMAP connection open to the mailbox while I receive the new email and it get's processed. While we're talking about procmail... A second question: :0: * ^From.*jenny(a)axte84\.com * ^Subject.*MILLION OPT-IN EMAIL ADDRESSES Badspam This will do an AND between the two conditions ... Is there an easy way to OR between them? ... Or do I need to make a separate rule for each and every condition? And an even further note... What are the thoughts on some of these anti-spam tools that work with procmail? Any favorites? Thanks a lot guys, -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:21 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Procmail Question On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 09:13:18AM -0500, Peter Gutowski wrote: > According to the man page the second ":" is optional, i.e. > > :0: > > but, as a sample of something known to work (from the SpamAssassin > sample .procmailrc) it does use the above syntax. Here's the example: > > So maybe the second ":" is not optional all the time? Just so we're all clear, the second ":" tells procmail that is needs to lock the file before writing to avoid corrupted mailboxes. So it's a good idea if you're writing to a mailbox, but isn't actually required, especially if you're writing to /dev/null or something. I didn't see anything wrong offhand with the procmail rules shown. Can we see the header of an example mail which doesn't work with the original but works with the carbon copy method? (and by work, just to double check, we're talking about the message going into the "test" folder). -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "When it is not necessary to make a decision, it is necessary not to make a decision." - From www.slashdot.org

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Re: [Wlug] Procmail Question
by Peter Gutowski Nov. 8, 2002

Nov. 8, 2002

According to the man page the second ":" is optional, i.e. :0: but, as a sample of something known to work (from the SpamAssassin sample .procmailrc) it does use the above syntax. Here's the example: # Mails with a score of 15 or higher are almost certainly spam (with 0.05% # false positives according to rules/STATISTICS.txt). Let's put them in a # different mbox. (This one is optional.) :0: * ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* mail/almost-certainly-spam The above *does* work on my system (RHL8.0). So maybe the second ":" is not optional all the time? HTH, Peter On Friday, November 8, 2002 8:45 AM, Marc Hughes <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> wrote: >I have a procmail question.... I have this rule: > >:0 >* ^From:.*hughesm@tomsnyder.com >test > >That doesn't seem to work. But this rule... > >:0c >* ^From:.*hughesm@tomsnyder.com >test > >... Works just fine ... But I want the first rule, I don't want it to >copy (what the :0c does) I want it to move (:0) Am I doing something >wrong? > >Thanks! >-Marc > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Peter Gutowski <peter(a)linuxchamps.com> // tel.: (413) 531-0123 "When in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered." --George Washington, _Rules for Civility and Decent Behavior_

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Procmail Question
by Marc Hughes Nov. 8, 2002

Nov. 8, 2002

I have a procmail question.... I have this rule: :0 * ^From:.*hughesm@tomsnyder.com test That doesn't seem to work. But this rule... :0c * ^From:.*hughesm@tomsnyder.com test ... Works just fine ... But I want the first rule, I don't want it to copy (what the :0c does) I want it to move (:0) Am I doing something wrong? Thanks! -Marc

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x86 emulation/vmare clone
by twg3＠attbi.com Nov. 8, 2002

Nov. 8, 2002

Is anyone familiar with any open-source versions of x86 emulation software that I can use instead of VMWare? It seems that the plex86 project has moved, and I can not find out much info on status of software - ie how usable etc.???? My goal is to run linux with win2k as a virtual machine for the few work related things I need.

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gnome desktop menus?
by Bill Mills-Curran Nov. 8, 2002

Nov. 8, 2002

I've installed RedHat 8.0 on my system, and I've decided to finally wean myself from fvwm2 and use the default setup. I've been poking around trying to figure out how to add entries to the panel menus. There doesn't seem to be a gui interface to do it. (There is a gui to add stuff to the desktop and to the panel, but not the menus.) I suspect that the secret handshake is contained in /etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/ directories, but I haven't found the secret decoder ring to help figure out the right way to do this. My main motivation is to add some favorite applications to the menus for my family. They are not about to use the command line. Does anyone have any suggestions? TIA, Bill

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uptime celibration
by Karl Hiramoto Nov. 7, 2002

Nov. 7, 2002

#uptime 1:39pm up 100 days, 34 min, 6 users, load average: 1.06, 1.05, Eat that Micro$oft :) -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Lady Luck brings added income today. Lady friend takes it away tonight.

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RE: [Wlug] uptime celebration
by Keller, Tim Nov. 5, 2002

Nov. 5, 2002

I that was the oldest... my coworker just corrected me... Also HPUX... ispolo5# uptime 2:04pm up 1079 days, 3:28, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.13, 0.18 ispolo5# I propose a 1000 day uptime minimum... ;-) Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 14:03 PM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: RE: [Wlug] uptime celebration ispolo2# uptime 1:59pm up 790 days, 56 mins, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.25, 0.24 Suppose I should put the uname -a output to resolve any confusions... ispolo2# uname -a HP-UX ispolo2 B.10.20 E 9000/888 2140000344 8-user license I had a linux box at 354 days of uptime, however a loose ethernet card did it in... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Karl Hiramoto [mailto:karl@zoop.org] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 13:44 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] uptime celibration #uptime 1:39pm up 100 days, 34 min, 6 users, load average: 1.06, 1.05, Eat that Micro$oft :) -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Lady Luck brings added income today. Lady friend takes it away tonight. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation ofgraphsinredhat6.2
by Sudhaker P Nov. 5, 2002

Nov. 5, 2002

Hi Marc, Thanks once again. I tried installing Xvfb but I'm getting the error message: Xlib: Connection "localhost:1" refused by the server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to the server xhost:Unable to open display "localhost:1". I'd appreciate your sugestions on this issue. Thanks, Peram >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >ofgraphsinredhat6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:04:48 -0500 > >Yup > >I believe it's on the RedHat CD's. > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:49 PM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >ofgraphsinredhat6.2 > > >Hi Marc, >Is Xvfb a software that I can download and install? > >-Sudhakar > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphsinredhat6.2 > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:40:55 -0500 > > > > > >So you're saying that you can use X on the machine, right? If so, I'd > >look > >other places for the problem. > > > >Double check that your DISPLAY is set properly and access is enabled. > >This > >was the exact same error message I used to get when java couldn't connect > >to the xserver. > > > >I find doing something like this: > > > >nohup Xvfb :1 -screen 0 800x600x24 & > >sleep 5 > >export DISPLAY=localhost:1 > >xhost + > >SERVERCOMMAND <- (Whatever you need to do to start the server) > > > >Is best since it uses a virtual x server instead of the real one. This > >works around your problem, but is probably the "correct" way to do it > >anyways. > > > > > >-Marc > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:23 PM > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphsinredhat6.2 > > > > > >Hi Marc, > >The KDE for the server was not working for it so I fixed it, removing > >all the rpms and re-installing them, I even reinstalled "gd".So I was > >wondering if any other libraries related to X-server were broken too. > >My output for $ps auwx | grep X is as below > >root 14500 0.0 0.0 2220 980 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 /bin/sh > >/usr/X11R6/bin/startx > >root 14507 0.0 0.0 2344 668 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 xinit > >/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- > >root 14508 0.7 0.3 18156 7956 ? S< 09:44 1:07 /etc/X11/X > >:0 > > > >I'd appreciate your suggestions and comments in this regard. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > > >of graphs inredhat6.2 > > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:55:29 -0500 > > > > > >What do you mean when you say it seems broken? Are there other > > >symptoms besides the java connection to it? > > > > > >Can you sit down at the machine and use X? If this is a server, you > > >probably don't want that ability (that's where Xvfb comes in). What > > >Xserver are you running? > > > > > >If you "ps aux |grep X" do you see an xserver running? > > > > > >-Marc > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:46 AM > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > > >of graphs inredhat6.2 > > > > > > > > >Hi Marc, > > >Thanks for the reply. > > >I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its > > >on the server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- > > >server seems to be broken. I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any > > >kind of information with the help of which I can fix the issue of > > >broken X-windows. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > >generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > > > > > > > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it > > > >look more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? > > > >If so, when you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable > > > >correctly? Does > > >the > > > >server process have access to the Xserver? > > > > > > > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? > > > >Without a running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical > > > >operations, even if > > >those > > > >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue > > > >that > > >a > > > >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run > > > >Xvfb > > >... > > > >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver > > > >to play with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-Marc > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM > > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > >generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > > >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is > > > >looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. > > > >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of > > > >X-windows. > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > > > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > > >generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > > > > > > > >Hi Karl, > > > > >Thanks a lot for the response. > > > > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic > > > > >log java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > > > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > > > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEn > > > >vi > > > >ronment.java:58) > > > > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > > > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown > > >Source) > > > > > at > > > > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Un > > > > >kn > > > > >ow > > > > >n > > > > >Source) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.j > > > >av > > > >a:356) > > > > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStub > > > >Im > > > >pl.java:123) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletC > > > >on > > > >textImpl.java:761) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletC > > > >on > > > >textImpl.java:708) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(Servl > > > >et > > > >ContextManager.java:252) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.j > > > >av > > > >a:346) > > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > > > > at > > > > >weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > > > > > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs > > > > >could be the reason and X might be broken. > > > > > > > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > > > > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > > > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > > >>generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > > > > >> > > > > >>Get any errors on your command line? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to > > > > >>verify that it is the kernel? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > Hi , > > > > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The > > > > >> > same > > > > >>program is > > > > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel > > > > >> > 2.4.16 but it > > > > >>fails > > > > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 > > > > >> > on which it > > > > >>used > > > > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > > > > >> > something > > > > >>may > > > > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that > > > > >> > doesn't seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can > > > > >> > guide me in this issue with your comments and suggestions. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Thanks, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Peram > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > _____________________________________________________________ > > > > >> > __ > > > > >> > __ > > > > >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > > > > >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > Wlug mailing list > > > > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >>-- > > > > >> > > > > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > > > > >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > > > >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > > > > >>Cell: 508-517-4819 > > > > >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > > > >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > > > > >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > > > > >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > > > > >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > > > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > > > > >> > > > > >>Confirmed bachelor: > > > > >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>_______________________________________________ > > > > >>Wlug mailing list > > > > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! 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RE: [Wlug] uptime celebration
by Keller, Tim Nov. 4, 2002

Nov. 4, 2002

ispolo2# uptime 1:59pm up 790 days, 56 mins, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.25, 0.24 Suppose I should put the uname -a output to resolve any confusions... ispolo2# uname -a HP-UX ispolo2 B.10.20 E 9000/888 2140000344 8-user license I had a linux box at 354 days of uptime, however a loose ethernet card did it in... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Karl Hiramoto [mailto:karl@zoop.org] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 13:44 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] uptime celibration #uptime 1:39pm up 100 days, 34 min, 6 users, load average: 1.06, 1.05, Eat that Micro$oft :) -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Lady Luck brings added income today. Lady friend takes it away tonight. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs in redhat 6.2
by Sudhaker P Nov. 4, 2002

Nov. 4, 2002

Hi Tim, Thanks for the reply. The version of JDK differ the version I'm having issues with is 1.3.1_01 and the ones the code is running successfully is 1.3.0_02, however the graphs were being produced before. The following is the Weblogic log which I'd appreciate if you can look at and tell what could be the issue in your view: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) at java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) at com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknown Source) at jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) at weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) at weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) I've done some reading and feel that awt uses X-windows and I think that might be broken. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. Thanks, Peram >From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: "'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org'" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs in redhat 6.2 >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:45:42 -0500 > >Peram, > >I'll ask an obvious question... You've verified that both machines running >the same version of the java run time environment? > >Also, does the entire applet fail or does it just fail to display the >graph. >If so, you might have to insert some code to catch exceptions... Possibly >some library has gotten mangled... > >Hope that helps, >Tim. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 14:35 PM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs in redhat 6.2 > > >Hi , >I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same program >is > >able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but it fails >to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on which it >used > >to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that something may >broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't seem to >help. >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in this issue with your >comments and suggestions. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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Routing problem -can I believe the ISP tech? #2
by Richard Goodman Nov. 3, 2002

Nov. 3, 2002

My apologies for the HTML, it was not intentional. I was trying to make part of the email more (not less) readable. I've changed options so hopefully it will never happen again. ======== I just brought up my fourth RH7.3 server Friday afternoon (one of two RH7.0 servers that had been hacked-new hard drive and software). I then went home and spent a couple of hours connected to it with ssh on a workstation connected to my home RH7.3 server. When I went to rerun a slightly modified (open ports for ftp and internal dhcp twiddling) ipchains firewall I lost the connection, and, more than 16 hours later, don't have it back. Other relevant details. (let's call the servers Home and EFO) Home was the other hacked server, and was formatted and rebuilt last weekend. Home and EFO are on the same ISP and each has a block of 4 static IPs. The blocks share the first 18 bits of their IP#s. Home could connect to EFO last night Home now cannot connect to EFO via ssh, or access its web site. Pings are disabled on all my servers - so I can't do that test. EFO network workstations can browse the web; I can ping out from the EFO linux box or workstations, and can ping EFO's Cisco 678 router from its Linux box EFO workstations cannot access Home websites (but I had not tried this before since rebuilding EFO Linux box Home Cisco 678 cannot be pinged from Home Linux box (!) or EFO (Linux or workstation), but can be pinged from my office (Linux box on other ISP). >From my office workstation I can also ssh to EFO and access EFO website (which in fact I uploaded to the new server from my office today). Does this discount the possibility of a firewall issue? I spent countless hours talking to the ISP (Qwest) tech support, and over an hour with a senior tech who had some Linux knowledge, and he claims that it must be a configuration issue on one or both of my Home and EFO Linux boxes, since: He can login to both my Cisco routers and ping the other router - he claims this proves its not a Qwest routing problem. If he's right I'm still puzzled by two things: a) Why could I connect from Home to EFO for two hours last night, no problems? b) Why can't the Home Linux box ping the Cisco 678 directly connected to it? I knew nothing about routing before today - here's the Home routing table: route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface xxx.yyy.28.48 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.248 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 xxx.yyy.28.54 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 I tried the following but still could not access EFO (added just the EFO IP#, not the network block: #route add -host xxx.yyy.26.57 dev eth0 # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface xxx.yyy.26.57 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0 xxx.yyy.28.48 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.248 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 xxx.yyy.28.54 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 Is this enough if to decide if the tech is right or crazy? Any suggestions - I still can't access Home from/to EFO. Dick

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RE: [Wlug] Looking for networking information
by Daniel Chen Nov. 3, 2002

Nov. 3, 2002

I found that http://www.practicallynetworked.com/ as a good site with review on DSL/Cable routers and home wireless equipment. www.homepna.org was another good site for home networks. But if you were looking at basic information such as installing NIC card and Ethernet Basics. Microsoft Press has a Network book; Cisco Press has a Network book. Both book are the basis for each's Cert Exam Curriculum. Daniel -----Original Message----- From: Pierce Barnard [mailto:pcbarnard@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 8:46 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Looking for networking information Hi, I recently acquired another pc and I want to incorporate it into my home network. Does anyone know of a website that has information on how to install and operate a windows based pc on a network? And I am looking for more information on networking in general.

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ticked at netgear
by Wes Allen Nov. 3, 2002

Nov. 3, 2002

Hi gang, I've got a ma401 card from netgear. It worked beautifully under linux (better than in windows even). Today I switch on my laptop, and I no longer get a link to my network with the card. I figure I must've had a power glitch and my firewall isn't giving out dhcp address, so I restart it. Still no link. I check the settings of my wireless router, all good. I boot my desktop to see if my usb wireless card works, it does. None of my settings on my laptop have changed, I checked. I tweak with iwconfig until my hands are sore, no luck. So I finally call netgear because I figure that it is a hardware issue and I need to send in the card to have at least the antenna replaced. Tech support says, "I'm sorry but we can only trouble-shoot on windows so we can't help you." I tell them, "It's not a software issue, nothing has changed with my software from last night, everything is the same, the card is not picking up the link from the router, it's not functioning, it's a hardware issue..." They say, "But we need to troubleshoot in windows." I say, "Look, I've turned encryption on and off, I've tried different modes, I've tried different channels, I've turned rts and frag on and off [note: now it's not accepting values, another clue that this is a hardware problem]. Nothing works, your card is broken and I want to send it in." I'm told to hold. "I'm sorry, we cannot help you. We need to troubleshoot in windows." I slam the phone on the reciever so hard I think I nearly break it. Now I am pissed, and I still have a broken card. Does anyone else have any history with wireless antennas not working all of the sudden? This card hasn't even been out of the house, I leave it here when I go out for crying out loud! My next attempt will to disable encryption and go back to wvlan_cs to see if that jogs this thing. But I truly think it's hardware; nothing, NOTHING, on my laptop changed, I didn't even turn it on this morning! Wes -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

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Routing problem -can I believe the ISP tech?
by Richard Goodman Nov. 2, 2002

Nov. 2, 2002

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2 goddamn megabyte message
by Keith Wright Nov. 2, 2002

Nov. 2, 2002

Somebody just sent a 2 Megabyte message to this mailing list, I think. I don't even know who sent it, because I got tired of watching it download and telnet'ed into my pop server to delete it totally unread. Since I don't know who you are you are safe (from me at least) if you never do anything like that again. Can the mailing list software be configured to throw any message more than, say, a generous 200K, into /dev/null and reply to the sender with a polite message about his mother and a baboon? Thank you very much. -- Keith

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DNS Resolve from the Internet
by jose sanchez Nov. 2, 2002

Nov. 2, 2002

Hello: Please help me get this straight. I am confused. I have a dnscache running at home on a DMZ network. I would like to know if I can have friends on other networks (in the Internet) to use my server as their resolver server? I have a firewall in place but, I'm directing all the udp traffic to port 53 to my dns-server; also my dnscache server is accepting connections from those networks ip's. Can I do this or do I need to register ($$$$$) a the dns-server? Thanks in advance for your help.... ===== "An ounce of gold cannot buy an ounce of time." - Anonymous www.whmicro.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/

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Enterprise Linux Forum - Special Offer for Linux User Groups
by Andy Stewart Nov. 2, 2002

Nov. 2, 2002

Hi Everybody, On Dec. 3 and 4, 2002, the Enterprise Linux Forum will be held at the Boston Marriot (Copley Place) in Boston, MA. We have been offered a $200 discount for WLUG members who attend the event. If you want more information, read below that which was sent to me. If you wish to go and can't read the attachments, send me e-mail. Later, Andy ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Enterprise Linux Forum - Special Offer for Linux User Groups Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:27:15 -0500 From: Juliet Sigmann <jsigmann(a)jupitermedia.com> To: andystewart(a)attbi.com Andy, I hope you do not think it too forward of me to send you this e-mail, but I came across Worcester Linux Users Group while researching Linux associations and user group sites. My company, Jupitermedia, has developed a conference that I believe will be of interest to you and other members of Worcester Linux Users Group . The name of the event is Enterprise Linux Forum Conference & Expo. For complete details on this event, visit http://www.enterpriselinuxforum.com I would like to offer Worcester Linux Users Group members a $200 discount to attend the Enterprise Linux Forum. Registrations processed by November 19th save an additional $100 off the regular conference price. The conference offers 1-Day, 2-Day, and Expo Pass (free) passes to the event. This e-mail is not a "sales call", but is a win-win business proposition. We are seeking to drive attendance at this first time (albeit world-class) event. We can offer you and other Worcester Linux Users Group members a world class event that touches on a number of subjects via 4 comprehensive tracks that I believe would be of interest to your group such as Linux in the Datacenter; Clustered and Distributed Computing; Operations, Management and Infrastructure; and Application, Storage and Information Management. Scroll below for the complete line-up of speakers and topics to be highlighted at this event. As the conference brochure (attached in PDF format) relates, this event is set to run December 3-4, 2002 at the Boston Marriott Copley Place in Boston, MA. Currently, the event is sponsored by Red Hat (Premier Sponsor), BMC Software, Computer Associates, Dell, Egenera, IBM, NeTraverse, Oracle, Sun Microsystems, SuSE Linux, Ximian, and more. Additional supporters of the event include: Illuminata (Premier Analyst Sponsor) and association sponsors Free Standards Group, GNOME Foundation, Linux International, and Open Source Development Lab. Media sponsors include, Capterra, HostingTech, IT Toolbox, Linux Journal, and OutsourcingCentral.com. Visit the event web site at www.enterpriselinuxforum.com for the most up-to-date listing of speakers, session descriptions, sponsors, and exhibitors. Again, I would like to offer Worcester Linux Users Group members a $200 discount to attend the Enterprise Linux Forum. As you can see from the number and quality of sponsors and speakers, this is a first rate event. I have attached with this e-mail a fax back registration form with the $200 discount as well as some copy that you could include in an email newsletter to you members or your web site. In order for your members to take advantage of this $200 discount, they will need to use the priority code assigned in the fax back form or attached copy. Please call me directly if you have any comments or questions. Sincerely, Juliet Sigmann Marketing Manager Jupitermedia Corporation (formerly INT Media Group) 30 Lyman Street, Suite 8 Westboro, MA 01581 T: 508-870-5858 x119 F: 508-870-6521 eFax: 801-761-9698 jsigmann(a)jupitermedia.com www.jupitermedia.com **************************************************************************** *************** Keynotes and Sessions Click on http://www.jupiterevents.com/elf/fall02/glance.html for the complete agenda Keynote 1: The Inevitable Linux Momentum - Matthew J. Szulik, Chairman, CEO and President, Red Hat Keynote 2: Linux in Prime Time: Open Source Meets Enterprise Requirements - Jonathan Eunice, President and Principal Analyst, Illuminata Keynote 3: IBM Enterprise Solutions for Linux - Steven C. Solazzo, General Manager, Linux, IBM Keynote 4: Unbreakable Linux - Rene Bonvanie, VP of Oracle9i Marketing, Oracle Corporation Session 1: The Changing Face of Linux - David Niemi, Director of Systems Engineering, Adeptech Systems, Inc. Session 2: Linux High Availability Cluster Selection - Tim Burke, Advanced Server Technical Project Leader, Red Hat Session 3: VPN Enterprise Implementation at Rochester Midland - Tony Karakashian, Network Manager, Rochester Midland Corporation Session 4: Linux as Embedded Operating System - Rob Lembree, Technical Director, Metro Link, Inc. Session 5: How Sitel Worldwide Runs Call Centers Utilizing Linux - Scott Clark, Director of Systems Engineering, Sitel Corporation Session 6: PANEL: Server Consolidation Strategies Using Linux - Moderator: Brian Proffitt, Managing Editor, LinuxToday.com Session 7: The Enterprise Linux Desktop: Addressing Corporate Needs - Nat Friedman, Co-founder and Vice President of Product Development, Ximian Session 8: Managing Linux on Datacenter Mainframe Systems - Alex deVries, Principal Solutions Architect, Linuxcare Session 9: The Future of Open Source Software in the Enterprise - Randy Terbush, Managing Partner, Tribal Knowledge Group Session 10: The Future of Datacenter Computing: How the Combination of Storage Area Networks and Processing Area Networks Solves Multiple Pain Points for Enterprise Datacenters Session 11: Apache: An Enterprise-Level Server - Daniel Lopez Ridruejo, Senior Developer, Instant802 Networks Session 12: The Virtual Environment - Where Does Linux Fit? - Dan Kusnetzky, Vice President, System Software Research, IDC Session 13: Enterprise-Ready Linux on the Mainframe: The Path to Success - Sam Greenblatt, SVP, Computer Associates Session 14: The Linux Factor: How Linux and Friends will Reshape Application by 2005 - Jasmine Noel, Founder and Principal, JNoel Associates Session 15: Rethinking the Linux Distribution: Linux as Platform, Not Product - Ian Murdock, Progeny Session 16: Linux Clusters and Open Source Software in the Life Sciences - Glenn Otero, Ph.D., Founder and Principal, Linux Prophet Session 17: The Linux Standard Base - Changing Everything You Think About Linux - Scott McNeil, Executive Director, Free Standards Group Session 18: Linux in Business: Answering Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt - Russell Pavlicek, Independent Consultant Session 19: PANEL: Integrating Linux Into the Enterprise - Moderator: Brian Proffitt, Managing Editor, LinuxToday.com Session 20: Open Source Development Lab Data Center Linux (DCL) for OLTP and DSS - Timothy Witham, Lab Director, Open Source Development Lab Session 21: Migrating C/C++ Applications from Unix to Linux - Shel Travis, Vice President of Research, MigraTEC Session 22: Web Services: The Killer Application for Open Source - Christian Gross, Software Engineering Consultant Session 23: Linux Database Clusters for High Performance Computing - Boris C. Bialek, Manager, DB2 Strategic Technologies, IBM Toronto Lab Session 24: High-Performance End-to-End Computing Using Linux - Chris Maresca, Senior Partner, Olliance Group, LLC **************************************************************************** *************** ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Sendmail 8.11.6 (was building RH7.3 after hack)
by Richard Goodman Oct. 31, 2002

Oct. 31, 2002

I spent four hours on Google last night about this problem. Saw reports of the same messages, but not the same situation. SUMMARY: 3 separate servers upgraded from RH7.0 to RH7.3 - all can send/receive mail locally and to/from the outside world EXCEPT for/from each other - which was not a problem under RH7.0. Do not believe there are errors in config files, particularly /etc/mail/local-host-names, and I have read the part of the sendmail FAQ about "mail loops back to me" and it DOES NOT APPLY in this case. I've been through what sendmail documentation I can understand - can someone tell me what has changed somewhere prior to or at 8.11.6 which shipped with RH7.3 that might cause this? I have another identically hacked RH7.0 server which I hope to rebuild/upgrade tonight - it will be interesting to see if all FOUR servers have the same problem. I'm losing mail which is supposed to be forwarded between these servers. Dick

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rpm lock-up
by Bill Mills-Curran Oct. 31, 2002

Oct. 31, 2002

HELP! I seem to have done something very bad (SVB) to rpm. And, it seems to be painfully reproducible (I did it to two machines). Short explanation: 1. Do some rpm command (I was using "rpm -e", I think). 2. Ctrl-C out. You won't get the shell prompt back. Now, that user account can no longer do any rpm commands from any session -- it always hangs. You can kill -9 the existing rpm processes, but nothing I've tried helps until reboot. Longer explanation: 1. I wanted to upgrade a couple of packages: perl-GD and perl-Chart. I don't know where I got the old packages :-( , but I made some new ones of my own. 2. Instead of doing "rpm -F", I forgot that the perl modules were installed from an rpm in an older perl library area, and I deleted the module files (rm). (oops) (Is this clear?) 3. When attempting to install the new rpm's, I got error messages, so I tried "rpm -e" on the old package. That failed due to dependencies, so I added "--nodep" to the command. This was taking a long time (hung?), so I ctrl-c'ed out. Now all rpm commands (from the root account) hung. 4. I rebooted this morning. The rpm commands were working ok (at least "rpm -qa" worked), so I tried "rpm -F <packageFileName>" (as root), and it's hung. 5. From another window (also as root), "rpm -qa" hangs again. 6. From a different account, "rpm -qa" works fine. HELP! 1. How do I fix things and get my new packages in? 2. Is the database corrupted? 3. If the database is corrupted, how do I fix it? Thanks, Bill

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microphone
by Wesley Allen Oct. 31, 2002

Oct. 31, 2002

Hi gang, any ideas why my microphone wouldn't be working in linux. It's set as the recording device, but isn't recording. My sound card uses the maestro3 module (ES1988 Allegro-1 card). I'm doing a search, but was wondering if any of you have had this problem. Wes

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jsut a thought
by doug waud Oct. 31, 2002

Oct. 31, 2002

Hi all After the neglegible turnout of "customers" for our most recent installfest there was some discussion aa to whether the day of the installfest is past and we should look for other ways to serve the community. In this context I found this morning's (Oct 31) T&G had an interesting article which may provice a template for what we might now do. In a nutshell they described (pages A1 and A11) the Atlantic Paranormsl Society who for the past 12 years send out teams to help people who are having trouble with "domestic disturbances like eerie noises and signs of spirit possession". Their website, http://the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com/ gets 6000 hits a day from around the world" (they do not say whether setag lib is among them). They do not charge for their "work" and say "the rich and poor both need help" and say "Also how can you charge for something that cannot be proved to exist" (which does not seem to stop Micro$oft!). They have about 25 regular members, consult with a network of similar groups and gather at an eatery (Starbucks, not the Boynton). I suggest that, if you can find today's T&G you read the article since I cannot do justice to it here. For example, I learned about the taxonomy: Hauntings Human Intelligent spirits (they talk) Residuals (leftover energies condemned to repeat one small action from their lives) Poltergeists ("usually the spirits of young girls which make a racket and and can wreak havoc on property values") Inhuman Demons Incubuses Succubi Nature spirits Angles Apparently the human variety are the more "benign" while the others "can be viscious and deceitful", says "Never believe anything you hear from an inhuman haunting". Apparently other groups often get in over their heads and haveto call in his crew to "clean things up". (This is getting long; check out the T&G if you do not wish to miss the full picture.) Now I realixe some of this may sound scary but we would have the advantage that we could send Keith in first to scare the spirits! :-) So, instead of instalfests we could adapt to the times and move into deinstallfests! doug

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RE: [Wlug] RH 7.2 - Installing and configureing openssl, modssl, apache, and php
by Setag Lib Oct. 31, 2002

Oct. 31, 2002

Redhat has RPMS for apache, php, and ssl that all play nice together. Use those unless you have some weird requirement where you absolutly need to build your own. BUT, make sure to download the updated SSL libraries from RedHat! The ones on the CD have a remote exploit in them that you will want to close. If you do NEED to compile your own apache, ssl, etc ... then there is this nifty project called "The apache toolbox" http://www.apachetoolbox.com/ which makes the process much much easier. Since it can be difficult getting all those to work right, I'd suggest trying that. I'd un-install all of the current apache stuff you have before doing that.

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Building RH7.3 server after 7.0 hacked -second request
by Richard Goodman Oct. 31, 2002

Oct. 31, 2002

SECOND REQUEST Additional information This does not appear to be just a problem with server (A). I cannot send mail between any of my three RH7.3 mail servers, but all will send mail locally, and all will send to / receive from the outside world. I am using a RH7.3 /etc/mail/sendmail.mc except for commenting out the DAEMON-OPTIONS line to allow outside mail, and turning off FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains') Is there some change to the sendmail in RH7.3 of which I am unaware that could cause this? I would appreciate any suggestions of where to even look to solve this problem. ------------------------------ As some of you may recall from a mid-week email, two of my RH7.0 servers were badly hacked Tuesday about 5AM, and I lost ssh and think I received a trojan. Friday the hacking got worse - all outgoing mail was rejected as "relaying denied", so I decided to bite the bullet and format the drive and build a new server. This was made more interesting by the fact the RH7.3 wouldn't finish loading packages until I disconnected my second HD which previously held /var, and my web sites (tried 3-4 times) .. "Kernel unable to reread partition table on /tmp/hdc (device or resource busy)", then hung mid-package loading. Late Saturday afternoon I pulled the plug, and started a RH7.3 install. Midmorning I was done, including security patches and had no internet connection .. couldn't even ping from the server. Fortunately, it was just my ISP picking this time to be down for the first time in months. Now I have one remaining problem which over 8 hours of work has clarified, but not solved. For background, I have the just rebuilt RH7.3 server (A), and two other recently built RH7.3 servers (B) and (C) at a different location and each with its own static IP#, all running sendmail for one or several domains From A - incoming mail seems to be fine From A - I can send mail locally to several domain names that are on the A server From A - I can send email (such as this) out into the world Through A - I have several email addresses which are accessed by others from outside and send mail to another outside address in virtusertable or to an alias which is a list of outside addresses, and these are working From A - I cannot send mail to any of the domains at B or C When I try, I get this on the A sendmail log: Oct 27 19:02:56 bach sendmail[3693]: g9S02uO03693: from=<dick(a)goodman1.net>, size=316, class=0, nrcp ts=1, msgid=<p04310101b9e23f71eb3e(a)[192.168.1.9]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=host9.goodman1.net [192.168.1.9] Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S02uO03693: SYSERR(root): 11harvard.com. config error: mail l oops back to me (MX problem?) Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S02uO03693: to=<r.goodman(a)11harvard.com>, ctladdr=<dick@goodm an1.net> (503/503), delay=00:00:06, xdelay=00:00:06, mailer=esmtp, pri=30316, relay=11harvard.com. [ 66.92.78.250], dsn=5.3.5, stat=Local configuration error Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S02uO03693: g9S032O03695: DSN: Local configuration error Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S032O03695: to=<dick(a)goodman1.net>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00 :00:00, mailer=local, pri=60416, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S032O03695: to=root, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer= local, pri=60416, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent and this on the B or C sendmail log: Oct 27 19:03:47 boron sendmail[8627]: NOQUEUE: goodman1.net [207.224.28.49] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/ VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA The part about an MX loop seems similar to what I used to get when I first started using sendmail and would forget to configure /etc/mail/local-host-names, but this file, and access and virtusertable on (A) were backed up before the format and restored - and a make done to regenerate the db files. Here's a sample of the bounce message I get, just to be complete: From MAILER-DAEMON(a)localhost.localdomain Sun Oct 27 19:03:02 2002 Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON(a)localhost.localdomain> Received: from localhost (localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g9S032O03695; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:03:02 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:03:02 -0500 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON(a)localhost.localdomain> Message-Id: <200210280003.g9S032O03695(a)localhost.localdomain> To: postmaster(a)localhost.localdomain To: <dick(a)goodman1.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain" Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain The original message was received at Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:02:56 -0500 from host9.goodman1.net [192.168.1.9] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <r.goodman(a)11harvard.com> (reason: 553 5.3.5 system config error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 553 5.3.5 11harvard.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) 554 5.3.5 Local configuration error --g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain Received-From-MTA: DNS; host9.goodman1.net Arrival-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:02:56 -0500 Final-Recipient: RFC822; r.goodman(a)11harvard.com Action: failed Status: 5.3.5 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 553 5.3.5 system config error Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:03:02 -0500 --g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: <dick(a)goodman1.net> Received: from [192.168.1.9] (host9.goodman1.net [192.168.1.9]) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S02uO03693 for <r.goodman(a)11harvard.com>; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:02:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: dick(a)pop.goodman1.net Message-Id: <p04310101b9e23f71eb3e(a)[192.168.1.9]> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:13:10 -0500 To: r.goodman(a)11harvard.com From: Richard Goodman <dick(a)goodman1.net> Subject: Test #3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" --------------------- Does anyone have any ideas, or requests for more information? I'm not doing too well after about 24 hours [now 3 days], and I'd really like to solve this mystery. Dick

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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation ofgraphsinredhat6.2
by Sudhaker P Oct. 30, 2002

Oct. 30, 2002

Hi Marc, I'll do that. I'll install Xvfb and follow your instructions and will keep you informed on the results. Thank you for your patience and your help. --Peram >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >ofgraphsinredhat6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:04:48 -0500 > >Yup > >I believe it's on the RedHat CD's. > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:49 PM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >ofgraphsinredhat6.2 > > >Hi Marc, >Is Xvfb a software that I can download and install? > >-Sudhakar > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphsinredhat6.2 > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:40:55 -0500 > > > > > >So you're saying that you can use X on the machine, right? If so, I'd > >look > >other places for the problem. > > > >Double check that your DISPLAY is set properly and access is enabled. > >This > >was the exact same error message I used to get when java couldn't connect > >to the xserver. > > > >I find doing something like this: > > > >nohup Xvfb :1 -screen 0 800x600x24 & > >sleep 5 > >export DISPLAY=localhost:1 > >xhost + > >SERVERCOMMAND <- (Whatever you need to do to start the server) > > > >Is best since it uses a virtual x server instead of the real one. This > >works around your problem, but is probably the "correct" way to do it > >anyways. > > > > > >-Marc > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:23 PM > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphsinredhat6.2 > > > > > >Hi Marc, > >The KDE for the server was not working for it so I fixed it, removing > >all the rpms and re-installing them, I even reinstalled "gd".So I was > >wondering if any other libraries related to X-server were broken too. > >My output for $ps auwx | grep X is as below > >root 14500 0.0 0.0 2220 980 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 /bin/sh > >/usr/X11R6/bin/startx > >root 14507 0.0 0.0 2344 668 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 xinit > >/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- > >root 14508 0.7 0.3 18156 7956 ? S< 09:44 1:07 /etc/X11/X > >:0 > > > >I'd appreciate your suggestions and comments in this regard. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > > >of graphs inredhat6.2 > > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:55:29 -0500 > > > > > >What do you mean when you say it seems broken? Are there other > > >symptoms besides the java connection to it? > > > > > >Can you sit down at the machine and use X? If this is a server, you > > >probably don't want that ability (that's where Xvfb comes in). What > > >Xserver are you running? > > > > > >If you "ps aux |grep X" do you see an xserver running? > > > > > >-Marc > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:46 AM > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > > >of graphs inredhat6.2 > > > > > > > > >Hi Marc, > > >Thanks for the reply. > > >I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its > > >on the server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- > > >server seems to be broken. I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any > > >kind of information with the help of which I can fix the issue of > > >broken X-windows. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > >generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > > > > > > > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it > > > >look more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? > > > >If so, when you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable > > > >correctly? Does > > >the > > > >server process have access to the Xserver? > > > > > > > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? > > > >Without a running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical > > > >operations, even if > > >those > > > >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue > > > >that > > >a > > > >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run > > > >Xvfb > > >... > > > >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver > > > >to play with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-Marc > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM > > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > >generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > > >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is > > > >looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. > > > >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of > > > >X-windows. > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > > > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > > >generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > > > > > > > >Hi Karl, > > > > >Thanks a lot for the response. > > > > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic > > > > >log java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > > > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > > > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEn > > > >vi > > > >ronment.java:58) > > > > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > > > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown > > >Source) > > > > > at > > > > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Un > > > > >kn > > > > >ow > > > > >n > > > > >Source) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.j > > > >av > > > >a:356) > > > > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStub > > > >Im > > > >pl.java:123) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletC > > > >on > > > >textImpl.java:761) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletC > > > >on > > > >textImpl.java:708) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(Servl > > > >et > > > >ContextManager.java:252) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.j > > > >av > > > >a:346) > > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > > > > at > > > > >weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > > > > > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs > > > > >could be the reason and X might be broken. > > > > > > > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > > > > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > > > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > > >>generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > > > > >> > > > > >>Get any errors on your command line? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to > > > > >>verify that it is the kernel? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > Hi , > > > > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. 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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation ofgraphsinredhat6.2
by Marc Hughes Oct. 30, 2002

Oct. 30, 2002

Yup I believe it's on the RedHat CD's. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:49 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation ofgraphsinredhat6.2 Hi Marc, Is Xvfb a software that I can download and install? -Sudhakar >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphsinredhat6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:40:55 -0500 > > >So you're saying that you can use X on the machine, right? If so, I'd >look >other places for the problem. > >Double check that your DISPLAY is set properly and access is enabled. >This >was the exact same error message I used to get when java couldn't connect >to the xserver. > >I find doing something like this: > >nohup Xvfb :1 -screen 0 800x600x24 & >sleep 5 >export DISPLAY=localhost:1 >xhost + >SERVERCOMMAND <- (Whatever you need to do to start the server) > >Is best since it uses a virtual x server instead of the real one. This >works around your problem, but is probably the "correct" way to do it >anyways. > > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:23 PM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphsinredhat6.2 > > >Hi Marc, >The KDE for the server was not working for it so I fixed it, removing >all the rpms and re-installing them, I even reinstalled "gd".So I was >wondering if any other libraries related to X-server were broken too. >My output for $ps auwx | grep X is as below >root 14500 0.0 0.0 2220 980 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 /bin/sh >/usr/X11R6/bin/startx >root 14507 0.0 0.0 2344 668 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 xinit >/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- >root 14508 0.7 0.3 18156 7956 ? S< 09:44 1:07 /etc/X11/X >:0 > >I'd appreciate your suggestions and comments in this regard. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of graphs inredhat6.2 > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:55:29 -0500 > > > >What do you mean when you say it seems broken? Are there other > >symptoms besides the java connection to it? > > > >Can you sit down at the machine and use X? If this is a server, you > >probably don't want that ability (that's where Xvfb comes in). What > >Xserver are you running? > > > >If you "ps aux |grep X" do you see an xserver running? > > > >-Marc > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:46 AM > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of graphs inredhat6.2 > > > > > >Hi Marc, > >Thanks for the reply. > >I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its > >on the server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- > >server seems to be broken. I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any > >kind of information with the help of which I can fix the issue of > >broken X-windows. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > >generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > > > > > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it > > >look more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? > > >If so, when you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable > > >correctly? Does > >the > > >server process have access to the Xserver? > > > > > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? > > >Without a running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical > > >operations, even if > >those > > >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue > > >that > >a > > >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run > > >Xvfb > >... > > >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver > > >to play with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-Marc > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > >generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is > > >looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. > > >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of > > >X-windows. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > >generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > > > > > >Hi Karl, > > > >Thanks a lot for the response. > > > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic > > > >log java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > > > at > > > > > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEn > > >vi > > >ronment.java:58) > > > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown > >Source) > > > > at > > > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Un > > > >kn > > > >ow > > > >n > > > >Source) > > > > at > > > > > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.j > > >av > > >a:356) > > > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStub > > >Im > > >pl.java:123) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletC > > >on > > >textImpl.java:761) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletC > > >on > > >textImpl.java:708) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(Servl > > >et > > >ContextManager.java:252) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.j > > >av > > >a:346) > > > > at > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > > > at > > > >weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > > > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs > > > >could be the reason and X might be broken. > > > > > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > > > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > >>generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > > > >> > > > >>Get any errors on your command line? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to > > > >>verify that it is the kernel? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Hi , > > > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The > > > >> > same > > > >>program is > > > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel > > > >> > 2.4.16 but it > > > >>fails > > > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 > > > >> > on which it > > > >>used > > > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > > > >> > something > > > >>may > > > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that > > > >> > doesn't seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can > > > >> > guide me in this issue with your comments and suggestions. > > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks, > > > >> > > > > >> > Peram > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > _____________________________________________________________ > > > >> > __ > > > >> > __ > > > >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > > > >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > Wlug mailing list > > > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >>-- > > > >> > > > >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > > >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > > >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > > > >>Cell: 508-517-4819 > > > >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > > >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > > > >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > > > >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > > > >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > > >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > > >> > > > >>Confirmed bachelor: > > > >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>_______________________________________________ > > > >>Wlug mailing list > > > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. > > > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Wlug mailing list > > > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. > > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Wlug mailing list > > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Wlug mailing list > > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Broadband? 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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphsinredhat6.2
by Sudhaker P Oct. 30, 2002

Oct. 30, 2002

Hi Marc, Is Xvfb a software that I can download and install? -Sudhakar >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphsinredhat6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:40:55 -0500 > > >So you're saying that you can use X on the machine, right? If so, I'd look >other places for the problem. > >Double check that your DISPLAY is set properly and access is enabled. This >was the exact same error message I used to get when java couldn't connect >to the xserver. > >I find doing something like this: > >nohup Xvfb :1 -screen 0 800x600x24 & >sleep 5 >export DISPLAY=localhost:1 >xhost + >SERVERCOMMAND <- (Whatever you need to do to start the server) > >Is best since it uses a virtual x server instead of the real one. This >works around your problem, but is probably the "correct" way to do it >anyways. > > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:23 PM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphsinredhat6.2 > > >Hi Marc, >The KDE for the server was not working for it so I fixed it, removing all >the rpms and re-installing them, I even reinstalled "gd".So I was wondering >if any other libraries related to X-server were broken too. >My output for >$ps auwx | grep X is as below >root 14500 0.0 0.0 2220 980 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 /bin/sh >/usr/X11R6/bin/startx >root 14507 0.0 0.0 2344 668 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 xinit >/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- >root 14508 0.7 0.3 18156 7956 ? S< 09:44 1:07 /etc/X11/X >:0 > >I'd appreciate your suggestions and comments in this regard. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphs inredhat6.2 > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:55:29 -0500 > > > >What do you mean when you say it seems broken? Are there other > >symptoms > >besides the java connection to it? > > > >Can you sit down at the machine and use X? If this is a server, you > >probably don't want that ability (that's where Xvfb comes in). What > >Xserver are you running? > > > >If you "ps aux |grep X" do you see an xserver running? > > > >-Marc > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:46 AM > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphs inredhat6.2 > > > > > >Hi Marc, > >Thanks for the reply. > >I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its on > >the server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- server > >seems to be broken. I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any kind of > >information with the help of which I can fix the issue of broken > >X-windows. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > > >of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > > > > > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it > > >look more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? If > > >so, when you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable > > >correctly? Does > >the > > >server process have access to the Xserver? > > > > > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? Without > > >a running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical operations, even > > >if > >those > > >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue > > >that > >a > > >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run > > >Xvfb > >... > > >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver to > > >play with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-Marc > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > > >of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is > > >looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. > > >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of > > >X-windows. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > >generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > > > > > >Hi Karl, > > > >Thanks a lot for the response. > > > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log > > > >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > > > at > > > > > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvi > > >ronment.java:58) > > > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown > >Source) > > > > at > > > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unkn > > > >ow > > > >n > > > >Source) > > > > at > > > > > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.jav > > >a:356) > > > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubIm > > >pl.java:123) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletCon > > >textImpl.java:761) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletCon > > >textImpl.java:708) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(Servlet > > >ContextManager.java:252) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.jav > > >a:346) > > > > at > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > > > at > > > >weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > > > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs > > > >could be the reason and X might be broken. > > > > > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > > > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > >>generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > > > >> > > > >>Get any errors on your command line? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify > > > >>that it is the kernel? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Hi , > > > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The > > > >> > same > > > >>program is > > > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 > > > >> > but it > > > >>fails > > > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on > > > >> > which it > > > >>used > > > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > > > >> > something > > > >>may > > > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't > > > >> > seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me > > > >> > in this issue with your comments and suggestions. > > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks, > > > >> > > > > >> > Peram > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > _______________________________________________________________ > > > >> > __ > > > >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > > > >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > Wlug mailing list > > > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >>-- > > > >> > > > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > > > >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > > >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > > > >>Cell: 508-517-4819 > > > >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > > >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > > > >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > > > >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > > > >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > > > >> > > > >>Confirmed bachelor: > > > >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>_______________________________________________ > > > >>Wlug mailing list > > > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. > > > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Wlug mailing list > > > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. > > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Wlug mailing list > > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Wlug mailing list > > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Broadband? 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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat6.2
by Sudhaker P Oct. 30, 2002

Oct. 30, 2002

Hi Marc, The KDE for the server was not working for it so I fixed it, removing all the rpms and re-installing them, I even reinstalled "gd".So I was wondering if any other libraries related to X-server were broken too. My output for $ps auwx | grep X is as below root 14500 0.0 0.0 2220 980 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx root 14507 0.0 0.0 2344 668 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- root 14508 0.7 0.3 18156 7956 ? S< 09:44 1:07 /etc/X11/X :0 I'd appreciate your suggestions and comments in this regard. Thanks, Peram >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs inredhat6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:55:29 -0500 > >What do you mean when you say it seems broken? Are there other symptoms >besides the java connection to it? > >Can you sit down at the machine and use X? If this is a server, you >probably don't want that ability (that's where Xvfb comes in). What >Xserver are you running? > >If you "ps aux |grep X" do you see an xserver running? > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:46 AM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs inredhat6.2 > > >Hi Marc, >Thanks for the reply. >I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its on the >server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- server seems to >be broken. >I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any kind of information with the help >of which I can fix the issue of broken X-windows. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphs inredhat 6.2 > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > > > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it > >look > >more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? If so, when > >you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable correctly? Does >the > >server process have access to the Xserver? > > > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? Without a > >running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical operations, even if >those > >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue that >a > >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run Xvfb >... > >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver to play > >with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > > > > > > >-Marc > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > > > >Hi, > >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is > >looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. I'd > >appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of X-windows. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > > >of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > > > >Hi Karl, > > >Thanks a lot for the response. > > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log > > >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > > at > > > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) > > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown >Source) > > > at > > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknow > > >n > > >Source) > > > at > > > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) > > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) > > > at > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) > > > at > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > > at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs could > > >be the reason and X might be broken. > > > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > >>generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > > >> > > >> > > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > > >> > > >>Get any errors on your command line? > > >> > > >> > > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify > > >>that it is the kernel? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hi , > > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same > > >>program is > > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 > > >> > but it > > >>fails > > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on > > >> > which it > > >>used > > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > > >> > something > > >>may > > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't > > >> > seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in > > >> > this issue with your comments and suggestions. > > >> > > > >> > Thanks, > > >> > > > >> > Peram > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > > >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > > >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Wlug mailing list > > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >> > > > >> > > >>-- > > >> > > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > > >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > > >>Cell: 508-517-4819 > > >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > > >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > > >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > > >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > > >> > > >>Confirmed bachelor: > > >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. > > >> > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Wlug mailing list > > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. > > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Wlug mailing list > > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? 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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphsinredhat6.2
by Marc Hughes Oct. 30, 2002

Oct. 30, 2002

So you're saying that you can use X on the machine, right? If so, I'd look other places for the problem. Double check that your DISPLAY is set properly and access is enabled. This was the exact same error message I used to get when java couldn't connect to the xserver. I find doing something like this: nohup Xvfb :1 -screen 0 800x600x24 & sleep 5 export DISPLAY=localhost:1 xhost + SERVERCOMMAND <- (Whatever you need to do to start the server) Is best since it uses a virtual x server instead of the real one. This works around your problem, but is probably the "correct" way to do it anyways. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:23 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphsinredhat6.2 Hi Marc, The KDE for the server was not working for it so I fixed it, removing all the rpms and re-installing them, I even reinstalled "gd".So I was wondering if any other libraries related to X-server were broken too. My output for $ps auwx | grep X is as below root 14500 0.0 0.0 2220 980 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx root 14507 0.0 0.0 2344 668 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- root 14508 0.7 0.3 18156 7956 ? S< 09:44 1:07 /etc/X11/X :0 I'd appreciate your suggestions and comments in this regard. Thanks, Peram >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphs inredhat6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:55:29 -0500 > >What do you mean when you say it seems broken? Are there other >symptoms >besides the java connection to it? > >Can you sit down at the machine and use X? If this is a server, you >probably don't want that ability (that's where Xvfb comes in). What >Xserver are you running? > >If you "ps aux |grep X" do you see an xserver running? > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:46 AM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphs inredhat6.2 > > >Hi Marc, >Thanks for the reply. >I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its on >the server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- server >seems to be broken. I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any kind of >information with the help of which I can fix the issue of broken >X-windows. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of graphs inredhat 6.2 > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > > > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it > >look more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? If > >so, when you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable > >correctly? Does >the > >server process have access to the Xserver? > > > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? Without > >a running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical operations, even > >if >those > >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue > >that >a > >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run > >Xvfb >... > >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver to > >play with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > > > > > > >-Marc > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > > > >Hi, > >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is > >looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. > >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of > >X-windows. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > >generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > > > >Hi Karl, > > >Thanks a lot for the response. > > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log > > >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > > at > > > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvi > >ronment.java:58) > > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown >Source) > > > at > > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unkn > > >ow > > >n > > >Source) > > > at > > > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.jav > >a:356) > > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubIm > >pl.java:123) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletCon > >textImpl.java:761) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletCon > >textImpl.java:708) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(Servlet > >ContextManager.java:252) > > > at > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.jav > >a:346) > > > at > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > > at > > >weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs > > >could be the reason and X might be broken. > > > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > >>generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > > >> > > >> > > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > > >> > > >>Get any errors on your command line? > > >> > > >> > > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify > > >>that it is the kernel? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hi , > > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The > > >> > same > > >>program is > > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 > > >> > but it > > >>fails > > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on > > >> > which it > > >>used > > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > > >> > something > > >>may > > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't > > >> > seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me > > >> > in this issue with your comments and suggestions. > > >> > > > >> > Thanks, > > >> > > > >> > Peram > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________________________ > > >> > __ > > >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > > >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Wlug mailing list > > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >> > > > >> > > >>-- > > >> > > >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > > >>Cell: 508-517-4819 > > >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > > >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > > >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > > >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > >> > > >>Confirmed bachelor: > > >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. > > >> > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Wlug mailing list > > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. > > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Wlug mailing list > > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Thanks for usb help
by Wes Allen Oct. 30, 2002

Oct. 30, 2002

Hi all, Thanks to everyone who tried to help me with my usb problems, it's always a pain when you know WHAT is wrong, but you don't know how to FIX it. Today I went to compUSA got their cheap-o usb2.0 cardbus card for $50, took it home and installed it. IT WORKS. So, when the next kernel fixes this apic promlem I'll have my 2 usb 1.1 ports AND 2 usb2.0 ports as well. I love linux sometimes, well, most times really. Wes -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

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RE: [Wlug] noseguy text
by Keller, Tim Oct. 30, 2002

Oct. 30, 2002

Look here... http://cx.capsi.com/code-matrixfortunes.html Tim. "Why are my eyes sore?" "You've never used them before. Rest, Neo. The answers are coming." -- Neo and Morpheus, "The Matrix" -----Original Message----- From: Clint Moyer [mailto:cdmoyer@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:03 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] noseguy text Link? -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Keller, Tim Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:01 AM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: RE: [Wlug] noseguy text As a side note, for you Matrix fans out there, so guy has a whole fortunes file that's matrix quotes (I know cause I have it installed...) It is not the spoon you bend, but your mind... there is no spoon. -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 22:18 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] noseguy text On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 09:07:32PM -0400, reavey wrote: > I would like to use noseguy but don't understand how it works?? > I have read it likes to run fortunes, and yet when I use either the text > files or .dat it won't read.Permission denial, chmod 777== can't execute > binary?? Regular text files are not parsed and it deadlocks. > What do you think? Should I write a program in python to parse a text > file(out of my ken). There is probably something stupid I can't see FYI: fortune has 2 files, the text file, and a "database" dat file which specifies how many fortunes there are, what offsets in the text file they're at, etc, etc. If you only edit the text file, fortune will get very confused. doing a "man strfile" will help you out. I also wrote a perl version (for the perl power tools project) which you can find on their website (do a google search for "perl power tools"...) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. (seen in someone's .signature) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] noseguy text
by Keller, Tim Oct. 30, 2002

Oct. 30, 2002

As a side note, for you Matrix fans out there, so guy has a whole fortunes file that's matrix quotes (I know cause I have it installed...) It is not the spoon you bend, but your mind... there is no spoon. -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 22:18 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] noseguy text On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 09:07:32PM -0400, reavey wrote: > I would like to use noseguy but don't understand how it works?? > I have read it likes to run fortunes, and yet when I use either the text > files or .dat it won't read.Permission denial, chmod 777== can't execute > binary?? Regular text files are not parsed and it deadlocks. > What do you think? Should I write a program in python to parse a text > file(out of my ken). There is probably something stupid I can't see FYI: fortune has 2 files, the text file, and a "database" dat file which specifies how many fortunes there are, what offsets in the text file they're at, etc, etc. If you only edit the text file, fortune will get very confused. doing a "man strfile" will help you out. I also wrote a perl version (for the perl power tools project) which you can find on their website (do a google search for "perl power tools"...) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. (seen in someone's .signature)

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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat6.2
by Marc Hughes Oct. 30, 2002

Oct. 30, 2002

What do you mean when you say it seems broken? Are there other symptoms besides the java connection to it? Can you sit down at the machine and use X? If this is a server, you probably don't want that ability (that's where Xvfb comes in). What Xserver are you running? If you "ps aux |grep X" do you see an xserver running? -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:46 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat6.2 Hi Marc, Thanks for the reply. I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its on the server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- server seems to be broken. I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any kind of information with the help of which I can fix the issue of broken X-windows. Thanks, Peram >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphs inredhat 6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it >look >more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? If so, when >you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable correctly? Does the >server process have access to the Xserver? > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? Without a >running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical operations, even if those >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue that a >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run Xvfb ... >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver to play >with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphs inredhat 6.2 > > >Hi, >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is >looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. I'd >appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of X-windows. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of graphs in redhat 6.2 > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > >Hi Karl, > >Thanks a lot for the response. > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log > >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > at > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) > > at > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknow > >n > >Source) > > at > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) > > at > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) > > at > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs could > >be the reason and X might be broken. > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > >>generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > >> > >> > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > >> > >>Get any errors on your command line? > >> > >> > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify > >>that it is the kernel? > >> > >> > >> > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > >> > >> > Hi , > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same > >>program is > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 > >> > but it > >>fails > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on > >> > which it > >>used > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > >> > something > >>may > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't > >> > seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in > >> > this issue with your comments and suggestions. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > > >> > Peram > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wlug mailing list > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > > >> > >>-- > >> > >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > >>Cell: 508-517-4819 > >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > >> > >>Confirmed bachelor: > >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Wlug mailing list > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! 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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat 6.2
by Sudhaker P Oct. 30, 2002

Oct. 30, 2002

Hi Marc, Thanks for the reply. I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its on the server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- server seems to be broken. I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any kind of information with the help of which I can fix the issue of broken X-windows. Thanks, Peram >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs inredhat 6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it look >more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? If so, when >you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable correctly? Does the >server process have access to the Xserver? > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? Without a >running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical operations, even if those >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue that a >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run Xvfb ... >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver to play >with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs inredhat 6.2 > > >Hi, >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is looking >for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of X-windows. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphs in redhat 6.2 > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > >Hi Karl, > >Thanks a lot for the response. > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log > >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > at > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) > > at > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknown > >Source) > > at > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) > > at > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) > > at > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs could > >be > >the reason and X might be broken. > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >>of > >>graphs in redhat 6.2 > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > >> > >> > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > >> > >>Get any errors on your command line? > >> > >> > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify > >>that it is the kernel? > >> > >> > >> > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > >> > >> > Hi , > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same > >>program is > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but > >> > it > >>fails > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on > >> > which it > >>used > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > >> > something > >>may > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't > >> > seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in > >> > this issue with your comments and suggestions. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > > >> > Peram > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wlug mailing list > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > > >> > >>-- > >> > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > >>Cell: 508-517-4819 > >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > >> > >>Confirmed bachelor: > >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Wlug mailing list > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! 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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat 6.2
by Marc Hughes Oct. 30, 2002

Oct. 30, 2002

I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it look more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? If so, when you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable correctly? Does the server process have access to the Xserver? If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? Without a running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical operations, even if those operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue that a whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run Xvfb ... It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver to play with, and never displays the results of those programs. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 Hi, With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of X-windows. Thanks, Peram >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphs in redhat 6.2 >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > >Hi Karl, >Thanks a lot for the response. >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > at >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) > at >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknown >Source) > at >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) > at >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) > at >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs could >be >the reason and X might be broken. > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >>of >>graphs in redhat 6.2 >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) >> >> >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? >> >>Get any errors on your command line? >> >> >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify >>that it is the kernel? >> >> >> >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: >> >> > Hi , >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same >>program is >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but >> > it >>fails >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on >> > which it >>used >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that >> > something >>may >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't >> > seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in >> > this issue with your comments and suggestions. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Peram >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> >>-- >> >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 >>Cell: 508-517-4819 >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø >> >>Confirmed bachelor: >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs in redhat 6.2
by Sudhaker P Oct. 30, 2002

Oct. 30, 2002

Hi, With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of X-windows. Thanks, Peram >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs in redhat 6.2 >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > >Hi Karl, >Thanks a lot for the response. >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > at >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) > at >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknown >Source) > at >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) > at >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) > at >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs could be >the reason and X might be broken. > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to install. >I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >>graphs in redhat 6.2 >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) >> >> >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? >> >>Get any errors on your command line? >> >> >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify >>that it is the kernel? >> >> >> >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: >> >> > Hi , >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same >>program is >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but it >>fails >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on which it >>used >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that something >>may >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't seem to >> > help. >> > I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in this issue with your >> > comments and suggestions. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Peram >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> >>-- >> >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 >>Cell: 508-517-4819 >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø >> >>Confirmed bachelor: >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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by reavey Oct. 30, 2002

Oct. 30, 2002

I'm a new member. I'm an elem. librarian in NE, Pa. near Binghamton,ny I just got approval and installed a linux box in our library to run a couple of demo programs worldwatch clock simulator and kstars. In screen saver I now run phosphores, which I have written text for using echo and printf in a bash shell. I would like to use noseguy but don't understand how it works?? I have read it likes to run fortunes, and yet when I use either the text files or .dat it won't read.Permission denial, chmod 777== can't execute binary?? Regular text files are not parsed and it deadlocks. What do you think? Should I write a program in python to parse a text file(out of my ken). There is probably something stupid I can't see TIA Re-v

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Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs in redhat 6.2
by Sudhaker P Oct. 29, 2002

Oct. 29, 2002

Hi Karl, Thanks a lot for the response. I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) at java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) at com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknown Source) at jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) at weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) at weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs could be the reason and X might be broken. In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. Thanks, Peram >From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs in redhat 6.2 >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > > >are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > >Get any errors on your command line? > > >Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify >that it is the kernel? > > > >On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > > > Hi , > > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same >program is > > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but it >fails > > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on which it >used > > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that something >may > > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't seem to > > help. > > I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in this issue with your > > comments and suggestions. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >-- > >€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø >Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> >Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 >Cell: 508-517-4819 >Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ >Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ >Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ >KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ >AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto >€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > >Confirmed bachelor: > A man who goes through life without a hitch. > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp

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RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of g raphs in redhat 6.2
by Keller, Tim Oct. 29, 2002

Oct. 29, 2002

Peram, I'll ask an obvious question... You've verified that both machines running the same version of the java run time environment? Also, does the entire applet fail or does it just fail to display the graph. If so, you might have to insert some code to catch exceptions... Possibly some library has gotten mangled... Hope that helps, Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 14:35 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 Hi , I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same program is able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but it fails to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on which it used to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that something may broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in this issue with your comments and suggestions. Thanks, Peram _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs in redhat 6.2
by Sudhaker P Oct. 29, 2002

Oct. 29, 2002

Hi , I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same program is able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but it fails to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on which it used to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that something may broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in this issue with your comments and suggestions. Thanks, Peram _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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Setag Lib
by Joel Desrochers Oct. 29, 2002

Oct. 29, 2002

Me thinks someone in the group is trolling. _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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RE: [Wlug] Linux
by Keller, Tim Oct. 28, 2002

Oct. 28, 2002

Setag Lib, Microsoft linux is very very good. I use it all the time, though I find I keep getting "SEG_HATESELF" errors all the time. I'd be very interested in helping you get those diamonds out of your country! I am part of the non profit group "Wereever Others are Oppressed, Keep Intacted Entegrity" a.k.a. "WOOKIE". Currently we are in a grievous plight and need your help so we can help people whereever they are being oppressed, like the Galactic Senate. Thanks, Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Setag Lib [mailto:bsetag@wpidalamar.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:30 PM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Linux Hi to you Andy too! Thank you for fast reply. I actually already got Microsoft Linux installed! It was very easy I am still having some questions though. I can't get on the internet, what is wrong? My Digital camera does not work either, why not? Also, now that we are such good friends, I would like to tell you about my late father who has recently died in Nigeria. If you are interested in helping my family get a chest of diamonds out of the country, I would be willing to make it worth your while. Thank you again! Setag P.S. This seemed a lot funnier shortly after the last wlug meeting. I guess it lost a bit when it got held up by the non-subscribed email thing. Of course if you still think Setag Lib (read it backwards) is real ... please send your bank account information so I can proceed with those diamonds. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Double Double Messages Messages
by Keller, Tim Oct. 28, 2002

Oct. 28, 2002

I was, so I unsubscribed myself and re joined the list and it solved the problem. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Keith Wright [mailto:kwright@gis.net] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:35 PM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Double Double Messages Messages Is anybody else getting two copies of all the Wlug messages? _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Looking for networking information
by Hemstreet, Jeffrey Oct. 28, 2002

Oct. 28, 2002

Here are some good informational websites on networking and linux... Good Linux-on-a-floppy for a router ( I use this one ) and some information on networking: http://www.coyotelinux.com/ Good networking information: (Da LAN Tech) http://www.dalantech.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=networking&Numbe r=33059&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1 http://www.dalantech.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=networking&Numbe r=30822&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1 There are many other networking articles and how-to's out there these can get you started. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Pierce Barnard [mailto:pcbarnard@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 8:46 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Looking for networking information Hi, I recently acquired another pc and I want to incorporate it into my home network. Does anyone know of a website that has information on how to install and operate a windows based pc on a network? And I am looking for more information on networking in general. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Linux
by Setag Lib Oct. 28, 2002

Oct. 28, 2002

Hi to you Andy too! Thank you for fast reply. I actually already got Microsoft Linux installed! It was very easy I am still having some questions though. I can't get on the internet, what is wrong? My Digital camera does not work either, why not? Also, now that we are such good friends, I would like to tell you about my late father who has recently died in Nigeria. If you are interested in helping my family get a chest of diamonds out of the country, I would be willing to make it worth your while. Thank you again! Setag P.S. This seemed a lot funnier shortly after the last wlug meeting. I guess it lost a bit when it got held up by the non-subscribed email thing. Of course if you still think Setag Lib (read it backwards) is real ... please send your bank account information so I can proceed with those diamonds.

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Linux
by Setag Lib Oct. 28, 2002

Oct. 28, 2002

I hear linux is very good. Is this true? Where can I buy it? What is difference between RedHat and Linux? Regards, Setag

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Double Double Messages Messages
by Keith Wright Oct. 28, 2002

Oct. 28, 2002

Is anybody else getting two copies of all the Wlug messages?

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Building RH7.3 server after 7.0 hacked
by Richard Goodman Oct. 28, 2002

Oct. 28, 2002

As some of you may recall from a mid-week email, two of my RH7.0 servers were badly hacked Tuesday about 5AM, and I lost ssh and think I received a trojan. Friday the hacking got worse - all outgoing mail was rejected as "relaying denied", so I decided to bite the bullet and format the drive and build a new server. This was made more interesting by the fact the RH7.3 wouldn't finish loading packages until I disconnected my second HD which previously held /var, and my web sites (tried 3-4 times) .. "Kernel unable to reread partition table on /tmp/hdc (device or resource busy)", then hung mid-package loading. Late Saturday afternoon I pulled the plug, and started a RH7.3 install. Midmorning I was done, including security patches and had no internet connection .. couldn't even ping from the server. Fortunately, it was just my ISP picking this time to be down for the first time in months. Now I have one remaining problem which over 8 hours of work has clarified, but not solved. For background, I have the just rebuilt RH7.3 server (A), and two other recently built RH7.3 servers (B) and (C) at a different location and each with its own static IP#, all running sendmail for one or several domains From A - incoming mail seems to be fine From A - I can send mail locally to several domain names that are on the A server From A - I can send email (such as this) out into the world Through A - I have several email addresses which are accessed by others from outside and send mail to another outside address in virtusertable or to an alias which is a list of outside addresses, and these are working From A - I cannot send mail to any of the domains at B or C When I try, I get this on the A sendmail log: Oct 27 19:02:56 bach sendmail[3693]: g9S02uO03693: from=<dick(a)goodman1.net>, size=316, class=0, nrcp ts=1, msgid=<p04310101b9e23f71eb3e(a)[192.168.1.9]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=host9.goodman1.net [192.168.1.9] Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S02uO03693: SYSERR(root): 11harvard.com. config error: mail l oops back to me (MX problem?) Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S02uO03693: to=<r.goodman(a)11harvard.com>, ctladdr=<dick@goodm an1.net> (503/503), delay=00:00:06, xdelay=00:00:06, mailer=esmtp, pri=30316, relay=11harvard.com. [ 66.92.78.250], dsn=5.3.5, stat=Local configuration error Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S02uO03693: g9S032O03695: DSN: Local configuration error Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S032O03695: to=<dick(a)goodman1.net>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00 :00:00, mailer=local, pri=60416, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Oct 27 19:03:02 bach sendmail[3695]: g9S032O03695: to=root, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer= local, pri=60416, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent and this on the B or C sendmail log: Oct 27 19:03:47 boron sendmail[8627]: NOQUEUE: goodman1.net [207.224.28.49] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/ VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA The part about an MX loop seems similar to what I used to get when I first started using sendmail and would forget to configure /etc/mail/local-host-names, but this file, and access and virtusertable on (A) were backed up before the format and restored - and a make done to regenerate the db files. Here's a sample of the bounce message I get, just to be complete: From MAILER-DAEMON(a)localhost.localdomain Sun Oct 27 19:03:02 2002 Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON(a)localhost.localdomain> Received: from localhost (localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g9S032O03695; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:03:02 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:03:02 -0500 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON(a)localhost.localdomain> Message-Id: <200210280003.g9S032O03695(a)localhost.localdomain> To: postmaster(a)localhost.localdomain To: <dick(a)goodman1.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain" Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain The original message was received at Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:02:56 -0500 from host9.goodman1.net [192.168.1.9] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <r.goodman(a)11harvard.com> (reason: 553 5.3.5 system config error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 553 5.3.5 11harvard.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) 554 5.3.5 Local configuration error --g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain Received-From-MTA: DNS; host9.goodman1.net Arrival-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:02:56 -0500 Final-Recipient: RFC822; r.goodman(a)11harvard.com Action: failed Status: 5.3.5 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 553 5.3.5 system config error Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:03:02 -0500 --g9S032O03695.1035763382/localhost.localdomain Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: <dick(a)goodman1.net> Received: from [192.168.1.9] (host9.goodman1.net [192.168.1.9]) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S02uO03693 for <r.goodman(a)11harvard.com>; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:02:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: dick(a)pop.goodman1.net Message-Id: <p04310101b9e23f71eb3e(a)[192.168.1.9]> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:13:10 -0500 To: r.goodman(a)11harvard.com From: Richard Goodman <dick(a)goodman1.net> Subject: Test #3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" --------------------- Does anyone have any ideas, or requests for more information? I'm not doing too well after about 24 hours, and I'd really like to solve this mystery. Dick

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Looking for networking information
by Pierce Barnard Oct. 27, 2002

Oct. 27, 2002

Hi, I recently acquired another pc and I want to incorporate it into my home network. Does anyone know of a website that has information on how to install and operate a windows based pc on a network? And I am looking for more information on networking in general.

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DHCPCD and ADSL modem
by Stéphane Purnelle Oct. 26, 2002

Oct. 26, 2002

Hello, I have a ADSL modem. This modem containa DHCP server that I use. In my computer, I have dhcp client daemon (dhcpcd). The parameter of dhcp server is juste lease-time and IP adresse, but I would like to set a name of my computer and kown the name and IP adresse of other computer. If I configure a DDNS for make it, it's not a problem. How-to configure a DDNS updatefrom a dhcp server not configurable ? Thanks !

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RE: [Wlug] Installfest
by Michael Long Oct. 25, 2002

Oct. 25, 2002

I have successfully booted into windows but found some interesting behaviors along the way. It appears that I must have swapped the hard drives at some point. The latest OS resides on hda1. Using YaST2 I added another boot definition pointing to windows on hdb1. FYI...YaST behaves differently when launched from within X than when launched from a shell with no X. After rebooting I get the lilo prompt to select an OS. I select windows and am then presented another lilo prompt (SuSE 7.0?) to select an OS. After choosing windows a second time, windows is successfully launched. This accomplishes what I need...but it would be nice to understand what is happening so I could get rid of the second OS prompt. Obviously I have done several installs on my system onto different drives. I have read the man page for lilo.conf and understood only a fraction of what it was trying to tell me. Can someone point me to some other resources that will help me to understand what is happening during the boot process? Thanks > Mike, > > You're almost home free. Take a gander at /etc/lilo.conf. You should see an > entry in there for booting windows and a timeout value. You should be able > to edit the file and install the changes by running lilo. > > Try man lilo for help. If still stuck, post your lilo.conf file... >

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BTW
by jeff Oct. 25, 2002

Oct. 25, 2002

howdy cats... i must apologize for my lack of attendance to the install fun. sheesh. life is throwing me a bucket of hell lately and i gotta move out of my apartment by the end of next week - thus, i've been quite busy. if there is anyone who would still like a copy of something new (ala debian, gentoo, mandrake) all you gotta do is drop me a line. i have plenty of extra cd's and all i ask in return is that you give me some blanks. peace guys. -jeff btw, if i haven't mentioned it already, the new debian is really slick. tight and stable. that's a biased opinion. :-)

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RE: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium
by Keller, Tim Oct. 25, 2002

Oct. 25, 2002

The problem I see is when you go out and buy a PC, blowout the partitions that have "longhorn" (MS's next OS) and install linux, reboot the machine and get this error at the POST screen: "TCPA Error: BOOT DEVICE DOES NOT CONTAIN VALID BOOT KEY" I don't see the people building the whole DRM infrastructure giving out details on how to change keys since their whole authentication infrastructure is based around the idea that every machine has a unique key so they can track things on a PC by PC basis. In their view, the idea of installing an operating system that doesn't have DRM built into it at the kernel level is an unacceptable option. The only way for DRM to be effective is to have a say in every action on your machine. Start an application and "DRM" verifies that the application is allowed to run on the machine. Insert a piece of media and "DRM" verifies that your allowed to access it. Go to a particular website and "DRM" decides if your allowed to access said website... On the privacy side of this, what's to keep the whole infrastructure from also keeping detailed info on what apps/media/peripheral/websites you access. Yeah, you could opt out of it, but by not opting in, your PC becomes utterly crippled, unable to play DVD's (since it can't verify authenticity), unable to run verified apps, etc... I see all kinds of other very onerous privacy issues with this... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Gary Hanley [mailto:gary@hanley.net] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 21:53 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rja14/tcpa-faq.html > Thoughts? Should we boycot? Boycott what? We run Linux. :-) The best thing you can do is make your local politicians aware of your opinion on the matter. Also, consider joining: www.eff.org -- Gary _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] backup recomendation
by Michael Long Oct. 25, 2002

Oct. 25, 2002

I have a backup script that uses tar to back up files to disk. It does a full backup monthly, full backup weekly(file recycled monthly), incremental backups daily(file recycled weekly). I would be happy to send it to you if you would like. --mike > > I've used BRU in the past. I'm not that excited about it. It seems > bascly to be a GUI front end to TAR Most backup utils seem to be > geared towards tapes. Since i'm backing up to hard drives its a > littele different. > > I'm still expermenting with my custom tar scripts, thanks for the > suggestions tho. > > > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Andy Stewart wrote: > > > On Thursday 24 October 2002 9:55 am, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > > What do people out there use for backup tools. Anyone use Amanda? > > > Any good? > > > > HI Karl, > > > > I use BRU at home for my backups on my SCSI TR5 tape drive and it works great. > > It is a commercial product and you can find more info here: > > > > http://www.tolisgroup.com/ > > > > Also, for a while I used Arkeia which seems to be more for professional > > environments and not for home users. It is also a commercial product. You > > can find more info here: > > > > http://www.arkeia.com/ > > > > Later, > > > > Andy > > > > > > -- > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > Cell: 508-517-4819 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > "People should have access to the data which you have about them. There should > be a process for them to challenge any inaccuracies." > -- Arthur Miller > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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RE: [Wlug] backup recomendation
by Marc Hughes Oct. 25, 2002

Oct. 25, 2002

I just started using arkeia the other day, and I'm rather impressed so far. They give you a 2 client license of version 4.2 for free (so you can backup the server, and 2 linux or windows clients) if you're using a linux backup server. You can make backups to tape or disk with it. Plus it has a little bit of eye candy; while backups are running, you can log in with the gui client (java client that works on a bunch of platforms) and see the speed at which the backups are running in a speedometer style display ... Hey, what can I say, I like pretty things :) I'm not sure if this is feasible at all, but could you use software raid and mirror your normal disk to the removeable one? Just a wacky solution that I thought of when someone mentioned LVM ... -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 12:04 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] backup recomendation On Thursday 24 October 2002 9:55 am, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > What do people out there use for backup tools. Anyone use Amanda? Any > good? HI Karl, I use BRU at home for my backups on my SCSI TR5 tape drive and it works great. It is a commercial product and you can find more info here: http://www.tolisgroup.com/ Also, for a while I used Arkeia which seems to be more for professional environments and not for home users. It is also a commercial product. You can find more info here: http://www.arkeia.com/ Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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backup recomendation
by Karl Hiramoto Oct. 25, 2002

Oct. 25, 2002

What do people out there use for backup tools. Anyone use Amanda? Any good? My situation is I have three servers I wish to backup. The total amount of data to be backup'd is 40GB. I wish to do weekly or monthly full backups with daily incremental. Plan A: Monthly Level 0, weekly Level 1, daily Level 2 Plan B: Weekly Level 0, daily Level 1 Plan C: Monthly Level 0, weekly level 0, daily level 1 Then every month I'd like to take one of the full backups and put it away for long term storage. My backup media is a 120GB IDE disks in a removable drive trays. Take them home for off site storage. One thing I'm trying now is: rsync the three servers to the local 120 GB disk. From local disk create tar files. Bad part about it is I have to store an extra 40GB on the disk of local copies of the servers. I can't just tar over NFS, because the files on the server may be changing as the tar is created. Tar bitches when that happens. My optimal solution: keep all files on the servers. Possibly use a small local scratch area(1 G or so). Create local backups and store them to the 120GB removable disk. I would like to use free software if possible. Any suggestions? -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø This is now. Later is later.

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RE: [Wlug] What's the tally for the installfest???
by Marc Hughes Oct. 25, 2002

Oct. 25, 2002

In case no one shows, do we want to plan something? A while back we did a distribution bake-off. Since we'll have the facilities, and probably a few computers, we could do something like that again? -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:41 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] What's the tally for the installfest??? On Wednesday 23 October 2002 1:26 pm, Keller, Tim wrote: > Do we have a rough idea of how many people are going to be in > attendance for the installfest? > > Later, > Tim. I have received ZERO e-mail about this so far. I plan to be there so I hope some folks come out of the woodwork. Later, Andy (who just returned from California yesterday evening) -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Installfest
by Michael Long Oct. 24, 2002

Oct. 24, 2002

Thanks to everyone for all the help. I was afraid I would have to drag my computer to Worcester tonight to get this done. Instead I will arrive without it. Since I have not learned how to do x-forwarding with ssh yet, I will have to wait until later tonight to actually attempt this. --mike ps. This just goes to show you can make great progress with a little heresy ;) > Mike, > > You're almost home free. Take a gander at /etc/lilo.conf. You should see an > entry in there for booting windows and a timeout value. You should be able > to edit the file and install the changes by running lilo. > > Try man lilo for help. If still stuck, post your lilo.conf file... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On > > Behalf Of Michael Long > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:22 PM > > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Subject: RE: [Wlug] Installfest > > > > > > I did not rejumper the drives. I believe I told SuSE to use the second > > drive and ignore the first. I may be wrong about this since it was > > awhile ago that I did the initial install. I do know that I > > am not asked > > whether or not to boot windows. Yast2 does have the ability to modify > > lilo. This is either not stable or allows the users to screw > > up because > > Yast2 appears to be locked on my laptop after going into the > > configuration tool :( > > > > Normally I would reject the idea of switching to Grub at this > > point but > > since SuSE 8.x is using it I am willing to entertain the idea. Being > > that I am primarely a database/web developer and not a linux > > programmer > > how will Grub enhance my linux experiance? > > > > mike > > > > > Absolutely! I'm guessing you rejumpered the drives to make > > the second > > drive > > > the primary. I'd recommend using grub as your boot loader. > > You can install > > > it in the MBR of the drive that has Windows on it, rejumper the > > drives, and > > > simply change /etc/mtab to reflect the new state of the world. > > > > > > Grub is nice, in that it allows you to tweak your boot "ini" file > > during the > > > boot process in case you made a mistake. Check out the HOWTOs at > > > www.tldp.org on how to setup dual boot. > > > > > > --Skip > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On > > > > Behalf Of Michael Long > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:34 PM > > > > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Installfest > > > > > > > > > > > > I neglected to mention one little detail. When I bought the > > > > computer it > > > > came with windows98 installed one harddrive and a second > > unformatted > > > > drive. I did a new install of SuSE onto the second harddrive. This > > > > effectively made windows unavailable. I have not done > > anything to the > > > > first drive other than mount it as a fat partition. Would it > > > > be possible > > > > to resurrect this windows installation and have it live in > > > > harmony with > > > > my current installation of SuSE? > > > > > > > > mike > > > > > > > > > Yes, well, I'm a Pastor at a conservative church that > > think doctrine > > > > matters; > > > > > so naturally everyone thinks I'm a heretic. It's nice > > to pass the > > > > buck once > > > > > in a while ;-) > > > > > > > > > > I don't know suse from a hole in the wall, so beyond editing > > > > /etc/lilo.conf > > > > > by hand and running lilo as root I can't help you. But it > > > > seems to me > > > > that > > > > > yast should have something in it's workings to edit the > > > > boot config. > > > > Let me > > > > > just say that I would be utterly shocked if it didn't. > > > > > > > > > > Other than that, since you're a newbie, you may want to backup > > > > lilo.conf via: > > > > > > > > > > mv lilo.conf lilo.backup > > > > > > > > > > and then read the man page on lilo.conf: > > > > > > > > > > man lilo.conf > > > > > > > > > > to edit your boot configuration by hand. Just remember if > > > > you go this > > > > way > > > > > you'll have to run "lilo" to get the updated configuration > > > > installed. > > > > > > > > > > Also, if you're going to install win98, MAKE SURE YOU > > HAVE A BOOT > > > > DISK. Win98 > > > > > will OVER-WRITE your mbr and lilo will be GONE. What you'l > > > > have to do is > > > > > after win98 is installed boot from your boot disk and > > run "lilo" as > > > > root in > > > > > the shell. That'll reinstall lilo on the master boot record. > > > > > > > > > > Anything I'm missing gang? > > > > > > > > > > Wes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday 24 October 2002 12:17 pm, Michael Long wrote: > > > > > > It is not easy being a heretic scum but someone has > > to do it... :) > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using SuSE 7.3 and would like to install windblows > > > > 98. I don't have > > > > > > 2000 and NT does not support usb. > > > > > > > > > > > > mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > DIE, DIE, HERETIC SCUM! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, now that I've got that out of my system ;-) > > > > what distro are you > > > > > > > > > > > > using? I > > > > > > > > > > > > > know that Mandrake has a lilo conf tool that will > > > > basically do it for > > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wlug mailing list > > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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RE: [Wlug] Installfest
by Michael Long Oct. 24, 2002

Oct. 24, 2002

I did not rejumper the drives. I believe I told SuSE to use the second drive and ignore the first. I may be wrong about this since it was awhile ago that I did the initial install. I do know that I am not asked whether or not to boot windows. Yast2 does have the ability to modify lilo. This is either not stable or allows the users to screw up because Yast2 appears to be locked on my laptop after going into the configuration tool :( Normally I would reject the idea of switching to Grub at this point but since SuSE 8.x is using it I am willing to entertain the idea. Being that I am primarely a database/web developer and not a linux programmer how will Grub enhance my linux experiance? mike > Absolutely! I'm guessing you rejumpered the drives to make the second drive > the primary. I'd recommend using grub as your boot loader. You can install > it in the MBR of the drive that has Windows on it, rejumper the drives, and > simply change /etc/mtab to reflect the new state of the world. > > Grub is nice, in that it allows you to tweak your boot "ini" file during the > boot process in case you made a mistake. Check out the HOWTOs at > www.tldp.org on how to setup dual boot. > > --Skip > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On > > Behalf Of Michael Long > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:34 PM > > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Installfest > > > > > > I neglected to mention one little detail. When I bought the > > computer it > > came with windows98 installed one harddrive and a second unformatted > > drive. I did a new install of SuSE onto the second harddrive. This > > effectively made windows unavailable. I have not done anything to the > > first drive other than mount it as a fat partition. Would it > > be possible > > to resurrect this windows installation and have it live in > > harmony with > > my current installation of SuSE? > > > > mike > > > > > Yes, well, I'm a Pastor at a conservative church that think doctrine > > matters; > > > so naturally everyone thinks I'm a heretic. It's nice to pass the > > buck once > > > in a while ;-) > > > > > > I don't know suse from a hole in the wall, so beyond editing > > /etc/lilo.conf > > > by hand and running lilo as root I can't help you. But it > > seems to me > > that > > > yast should have something in it's workings to edit the > > boot config. > > Let me > > > just say that I would be utterly shocked if it didn't. > > > > > > Other than that, since you're a newbie, you may want to backup > > lilo.conf via: > > > > > > mv lilo.conf lilo.backup > > > > > > and then read the man page on lilo.conf: > > > > > > man lilo.conf > > > > > > to edit your boot configuration by hand. Just remember if > > you go this > > way > > > you'll have to run "lilo" to get the updated configuration > > installed. > > > > > > Also, if you're going to install win98, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BOOT > > DISK. Win98 > > > will OVER-WRITE your mbr and lilo will be GONE. What you'l > > have to do is > > > after win98 is installed boot from your boot disk and run "lilo" as > > root in > > > the shell. That'll reinstall lilo on the master boot record. > > > > > > Anything I'm missing gang? > > > > > > Wes > > > > > > > > > On Thursday 24 October 2002 12:17 pm, Michael Long wrote: > > > > It is not easy being a heretic scum but someone has to do it... :) > > > > > > > > I am using SuSE 7.3 and would like to install windblows > > 98. I don't have > > > > 2000 and NT does not support usb. > > > > > > > > mike > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > DIE, DIE, HERETIC SCUM! > > > > > > > > > > OK, now that I've got that out of my system ;-) > > what distro are you > > > > > > > > using? I > > > > > > > > > know that Mandrake has a lilo conf tool that will > > basically do it for > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > Wes > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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Re: [Wlug] Installfest
by Michael Long Oct. 24, 2002

Oct. 24, 2002

I neglected to mention one little detail. When I bought the computer it came with windows98 installed one harddrive and a second unformatted drive. I did a new install of SuSE onto the second harddrive. This effectively made windows unavailable. I have not done anything to the first drive other than mount it as a fat partition. Would it be possible to resurrect this windows installation and have it live in harmony with my current installation of SuSE? mike > Yes, well, I'm a Pastor at a conservative church that think doctrine matters; > so naturally everyone thinks I'm a heretic. It's nice to pass the buck once > in a while ;-) > > I don't know suse from a hole in the wall, so beyond editing /etc/lilo.conf > by hand and running lilo as root I can't help you. But it seems to me that > yast should have something in it's workings to edit the boot config. Let me > just say that I would be utterly shocked if it didn't. > > Other than that, since you're a newbie, you may want to backup lilo.conf via: > > mv lilo.conf lilo.backup > > and then read the man page on lilo.conf: > > man lilo.conf > > to edit your boot configuration by hand. Just remember if you go this way > you'll have to run "lilo" to get the updated configuration installed. > > Also, if you're going to install win98, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BOOT DISK. Win98 > will OVER-WRITE your mbr and lilo will be GONE. What you'l have to do is > after win98 is installed boot from your boot disk and run "lilo" as root in > the shell. That'll reinstall lilo on the master boot record. > > Anything I'm missing gang? > > Wes > > > On Thursday 24 October 2002 12:17 pm, Michael Long wrote: > > It is not easy being a heretic scum but someone has to do it... :) > > > > I am using SuSE 7.3 and would like to install windblows 98. I don't have > > 2000 and NT does not support usb. > > > > mike > > > > > Mike, > > > DIE, DIE, HERETIC SCUM! > > > > > > OK, now that I've got that out of my system ;-) what distro are you > > > > using? I > > > > > know that Mandrake has a lilo conf tool that will basically do it for > > > you. > > > > > > Wes > > >

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Re: [Wlug] Installfest
by Michael Long Oct. 24, 2002

Oct. 24, 2002

It is not easy being a heretic scum but someone has to do it... :) I am using SuSE 7.3 and would like to install windblows 98. I don't have 2000 and NT does not support usb. mike > Mike, > DIE, DIE, HERETIC SCUM! > > OK, now that I've got that out of my system ;-) what distro are you using? I > know that Mandrake has a lilo conf tool that will basically do it for you. > > Wes > > On Thursday 24 October 2002 11:53 am, Michael Long wrote: > > I have a request that is sacrilege to the charter of WLUG. However it is > > driven by the practicality of working in todays IT market place. > > > > I have run linux exclusively on my personal computers for quite awhile. > > My situation has changed and now need to make one of my computers a dual > > boot with windows. The only way I know how to do this is to install > > windows first and then linux. This would mean having to restore my > > current installation from backups which I have not done before. My > > preference would be to add windows leaving my linux installation alone. > > I am still a newbie to linux and do not understand lilo and the boot > > process. Would this be something that someone would be willing to help > > walk me through? > > > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- > ------ > This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please > send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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Installfest
by Michael Long Oct. 24, 2002

Oct. 24, 2002

I have a request that is sacrilege to the charter of WLUG. However it is driven by the practicality of working in todays IT market place. I have run linux exclusively on my personal computers for quite awhile. My situation has changed and now need to make one of my computers a dual boot with windows. The only way I know how to do this is to install windows first and then linux. This would mean having to restore my current installation from backups which I have not done before. My preference would be to add windows leaving my linux installation alone. I am still a newbie to linux and do not understand lilo and the boot process. Would this be something that someone would be willing to help walk me through? Thanks, Mike

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What's the tally for the installfest???
by Keller, Tim Oct. 24, 2002

Oct. 24, 2002

Do we have a rough idea of how many people are going to be in attendance for the installfest? Later, Tim.

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virus scanner
by bryon3245＠netzero.com Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

I was wondering if anyoen has any suggestions for a virus scanner that i could install on my free bsd box that runs at 33mhz and I only use as a router and fire wall to scan all incoming traffic for viruses? -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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Aurora SPARC Linux
by Charles R. Anderson Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

I'll have Aurora SPARC Linux (www.auroralinux.org) at tomorrow's InstallFest if anyone wants to try it out. It is basically the same as what would be Red Hat 7.3/Sparc, but they can't call it that since it wasn't officially made by Red Hat. There is a 32-bit version and a 64-bit version. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

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RE: [Wlug] What's the tally for the installfest???
by Haines, Charles Allen Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

I've sent the message to WPILA twice now. Haven't gotten any response back, but at least they know. I'll be there with CD's for Gentoo 1.4_rc1 with stage3, Mandrake 9.0 and Redhat 8.0. I'm trying to get slack-current before then, we will see. ----------------------------------------- Chuck Haines GDC Systems Administrator Infinity Complex Developer WPILA Lab Manager ----------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex ICQ: 3707881 Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 Cell: (410) 610-6343. ----------------------------------------- "Geek by nature, Linux by choice." -----Original Message----- From: brad [mailto:brad@ithryn.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:24 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] What's the tally for the installfest??? On Wednesday 23 October 2002 01:53 pm, Wes Allen wrote: > Is it tommorow? Or tonight? I believe it is tomorrow. > I want to be able to come and get my iPAQ converted (finally), but I > had my wisdom teeth out yesterday AND I've got the flu.....I'm pretty > zoned out. that's no fun. I'll be there if you want to install in your iPAQ. -brad > Wes > > On Wednesday 23 October 2002 1:26 pm, Keller, Tim wrote: > > Do we have a rough idea of how many people are going to be in > > attendance for the installfest? > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] What's the tally for the installfest???
by Keller, Tim Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

Tomorrow... I hope you feel better. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Wes Allen [mailto:wallen@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 13:54 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] What's the tally for the installfest??? Is it tommorow? Or tonight? I want to be able to come and get my iPAQ converted (finally), but I had my wisdom teeth out yesterday AND I've got the flu.....I'm pretty zoned out. Wes On Wednesday 23 October 2002 1:26 pm, Keller, Tim wrote: > Do we have a rough idea of how many people are going to be in attendance > for the installfest? > > Later, > Tim. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Problem Solved!
by Marc Hughes Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

I figured out my SMP / X problem. For some reason the AGPGART and RADEONFB modules aren't loading automatically like they do in the single cpu kernel. But if I modprobe them, X works fine. Thanks anyways guys! -Marc

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RH7.0 Hacked
by Richard Goodman Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

I have two RH7.0 and two RH7.3 servers ... it appears that between 5-6am Tuesday both the 7.0 servers were hacked - identically. They are on the same ISP and often their firewalls pick up the same scans and probes. I'm no expert, but this is what I think happened. The first clue was that I couldn't log in through ssh - got the message "The program does not understand the servers's version of the protocol" Looking at /var/log/secure I saw: 10/22 5:34 xinetd fail ftp libwrap from 195.157.17.177 then two fails from 127.0.0.1 I'm running an unpatched wu-ftpd (which I'm sure didn't help me) but the host.allow/deny were set to only allow ftp from the internal network and one specified outside IP# 10/22 5:48 (twice) xinetd start pop3 pid=10804 from 127.0.0.1 [not me-sleeping] 10/22 6:09 Listener created on port 22 Daemon is running Some poking around showed in /etc/ssh sshd (which should have been approx 200K was 2,621,812 and dated 10/22, so probably a trojan? ssh_host_key, ssh_host_key_pub, ssh_random_seed, sshd_config all had 10/22 modified dates My web server also was not running (or at least serving local pages) I accidently rebooted, the web server came back, but ssh did not. Later I attempted to delete and reinstall sshd. rpm said it couldn't uninstall because it wasn't there, and couldn't install because it was there. I think it finally installed with --force, and sshd was about 186K, but the symptoms were the same It turns out that ftp is also now not operational from the internal network. There is a message about xinetd/ftp in the startup, but its probably not important at this point After the reboot, ps -ax listed: 1811 D /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major 7 [which I could not kill] Obviously, I'm going to have to wipe the server (plan to offload a few .conf and mail config files, firewall script and leave /var/www - should that be safe?) and will probably load RH7.3 and patches. Any comments on what happened, or on rebuilding? The hard drive is partitioned (a) / (b) /home (c) /var - and /home has only mail files. If I format (a) and delete some (which?) directories on /var, should I be ok? Would prefer not to rebuild the /var/www directories if possible. With ftp and ssh both down, my only way to offload is to floppies? Boy, I miss not having ssh access! Dick

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RE: [Wlug] RH7.0 Hacked
by Marc Hughes Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

You probably still have ftp or ssh access from that machine, so you can copy your data off of it onto another server. But I'd say your best bet is unplug it from the internet, copy off all your data (not programs!), wipe clean, and reinstall. You never know what kinds of rootkits were installed, and you can't rely on any system info to be accurate since some rootkits are rather advanced. Did you have SSL running without the recent (as in past month or so) patches? -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Richard Goodman [mailto:dick@goodman1.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:31 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] RH7.0 Hacked I have two RH7.0 and two RH7.3 servers ... it appears that between 5-6am Tuesday both the 7.0 servers were hacked - identically. They are on the same ISP and often their firewalls pick up the same scans and probes. I'm no expert, but this is what I think happened. The first clue was that I couldn't log in through ssh - got the message "The program does not understand the servers's version of the protocol" Looking at /var/log/secure I saw: 10/22 5:34 xinetd fail ftp libwrap from 195.157.17.177 then two fails from 127.0.0.1 I'm running an unpatched wu-ftpd (which I'm sure didn't help me) but the host.allow/deny were set to only allow ftp from the internal network and one specified outside IP# 10/22 5:48 (twice) xinetd start pop3 pid=10804 from 127.0.0.1 [not me-sleeping] 10/22 6:09 Listener created on port 22 Daemon is running Some poking around showed in /etc/ssh sshd (which should have been approx 200K was 2,621,812 and dated 10/22, so probably a trojan? ssh_host_key, ssh_host_key_pub, ssh_random_seed, sshd_config all had 10/22 modified dates My web server also was not running (or at least serving local pages) I accidently rebooted, the web server came back, but ssh did not. Later I attempted to delete and reinstall sshd. rpm said it couldn't uninstall because it wasn't there, and couldn't install because it was there. I think it finally installed with --force, and sshd was about 186K, but the symptoms were the same It turns out that ftp is also now not operational from the internal network. There is a message about xinetd/ftp in the startup, but its probably not important at this point After the reboot, ps -ax listed: 1811 D /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major 7 [which I could not kill] Obviously, I'm going to have to wipe the server (plan to offload a few .conf and mail config files, firewall script and leave /var/www - should that be safe?) and will probably load RH7.3 and patches. Any comments on what happened, or on rebuilding? The hard drive is partitioned (a) / (b) /home (c) /var - and /home has only mail files. If I format (a) and delete some (which?) directories on /var, should I be ok? Would prefer not to rebuild the /var/www directories if possible. With ftp and ssh both down, my only way to offload is to floppies? Boy, I miss not having ssh access! Dick _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] Using iptables to MASQ the connection to the internet.
by Peter Gutowski Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

Aramico, I've noticed, since you posts started appearing, that you seem to be asking for help on topics that are generally well-covered on the internet. But perhaps you are new enough to all this (as I was several years ago) that you don't realize that the purpose of forums like this is to add a level of enrichment to the research work that you've (hopefully) already done. It might be a better use of all of our time if you did some of that research yourself and came back with specific questions after having done so. The answer to the question you ask below specifically is answered quite well in HOWTOs that are readily available. I'll infer for a moment that your question is based on your sucessfull installation of RHL8.0 that you were asking about earlier. To find more information about any installed package do... rpm -q <package-name> -i So for your iptables question, I'd do this: rpm -q iptables -i Among the info listed here is a key to finding out how to use it: URL: : http://www.netfilter.org If you were to follow that link, you'll find plenty of answers to the exact question your pose. (Scroll to the bottom of the page and select NAT HOWTO. Look for "4.1 I just want masquerading! Help!" ) Also, most RPMs have a certain amout of enclosed documentation that will vary in its helpfulness. Do a rpm -q <package-name> -l | grep doc or substitute "info" or "man" for the "doc" above. Making an attempt to read those would also be a good first step to implementing new facilities on systems you are using. You might be pleasantly surprized about how many of these questions have been already anticipated *and* answered! Finally, doing a google search (http://www.google.com) might also surprize you pleasantly about locating these resources quickly. On 10/23/2002 12:23 AM, Aramico <aramico(a)duahati.com> wrote: >Hi all, > >Can you please tell me what is the sysntax of iptables to masquerade >my >network connection to the internet ? > >Basicly, I've only done this to masquerade my network connectionto >the >Internet, as default we can use the computer who masq the connection >as >gateway. >ipchains -A forward -s 0/0 -d 0/0 -j MASQ > >So, can you please tell me what is the syntax of iptables to produce >the >result as the command above...... ? > >Thanks ...... > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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debian pkgs
by brad Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

Hi All, Do the debian users here know how to install a package into a prefix directory? For example i want my kde stuff to be installed in /usr/local/kde, not /usr. Is this possible with aptitude? Thanks, -brad

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Can you trust your computer?
by Karl Hiramoto Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

I went to see stallman at the book store last wednesday, and this is what he was talking about.... http://newsforge.com/newsforge/02/10/21/1449250.shtml?tid=19 -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø You'd like to do it instantaneously, but that's too slow.

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DRM/TCPA/Palladium
by Karl Hiramoto Oct. 22, 2002

Oct. 22, 2002

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rja14/tcpa-faq.html Thoughts? Should we boycot? -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Only people with names beginning with 'A' are getting mail this week (a la Microsoft)

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XFree86 SMP Woes
by Marc Hughes Oct. 21, 2002

Oct. 21, 2002

I just installed a second processor, installed an SMP kernel, and booted into it. At first, everything seemed great, I can do massive compiles, top shows both CPU's, and things go pretty zippy. BUT... I can't start X. This is what startx gives me: XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-8) / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 23 January 2002 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/) Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.17-0.13smp i686 [ELF] Build Host: daffy.perf.redhat.com Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon Oct 21 19:23:34 2002 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] Could not bind XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. I'm guessing the whole not being able to bind the AGP is the really bad part. I booted into the single CPU kernel, and X still works fine there. Any ideas? -Marc

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sendmail/RH8.0
by Bill Mills-Curran Oct. 21, 2002

Oct. 21, 2002

After upgrading to RedHat 8.0, I'm being forced to learn more about sendmail that I have time to invest, so I need some help. Previously, I had used linuxconf to set up Linux server at work (EMC) that would forward most email to the domain mail server -- I'm not trying to manage mail for the company. One twist... I want to define a few aliases. My linuxconf setup worked great -- I could send email to aliasname(a)thismachine.emc.com, and the /etc/alias file would be used to translate "aliasname" to a list of addresses. With the new split sendmail config, I'm floundering. I've made a few tweaks that were necessary to allow the machine to act as an internal relay (I need some security help here, too), but I'm still fighting a mail loop problem. So, here are my specific questions/requirements: 1. I want to send to an alias on "thismachine.emc.com" from anywhere inside emc. 2. I want the same aliases to be used for email originating from "thismachine". 3. I don't want to create a relay security hole. I'll send my sendmail.mc and submit.mc files upon request. TIA, Bill

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linuxconf replacement?
by Bill Mills-Curran Oct. 21, 2002

Oct. 21, 2002

I've just upgraded to 8.0, and I find that linuxconf is no longer distributed. I was growing fairly fond of it, and I'm wondering what is the latest and greatest system management tool. I've seen "setup", and it's a bit lacking. I like linuxconf because: 1. It doesn't require the detailed (geek-level) knowledge that editing config files requires. 2. It works without a gui, which is very convenient for su-ing to root, or working through slower connections. So, what's the "best" system management tool these days? TIA, Bill

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Re: [Wlug] t-shirts
by Peter Gutowski Oct. 21, 2002

Oct. 21, 2002

>thought the following two would amuse you guys: > >(1) #define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) > There's a lot of truth in that. ;) -- Peter Gutowski <peter(a)linuxchamps.com> // tel.: (413) 531-0123 "When in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered." --George Washington, _Rules for Civility and Decent Behavior_

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t-shirts
by doug waud Oct. 21, 2002

Oct. 21, 2002

Hi all I got a catalog from Computergear.com which offered a variety of T-shirts with various incriptions. I thought the following two would amuse you guys: (1) #define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) and (2) The box said "Requires Windows 98 or better" So I installed Linux. doug

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Re: [Wlug] RH 7.0->7.3 upgrade
by Peter Gutowski Oct. 21, 2002

Oct. 21, 2002

I'd suggest that you consider upgrading to 8.0. I've been very impressed with the changes in 8.0 primarily in the area of user interface. I've experienced problems with RHL upgrades in the past. But I believe the bulk of those problems owed to the fact that I was attempting to upgrade where the disk setup was just too "tight". Perhaps in contrast to to 7.0, both 7.3 and 8.0 put a lot of files into /usr/share. You'll may make things easier for yourself if /usr/share is on its own partition. Aside from the be prepared for a general tightening of security. If you use sendmail, you'll probably have to add a "sendmail: ALL" into /etc/hosts.allow as the default is to only do mail handling from localhost. RHL 8.0 uses apache 2.x whereas RHL7.3 still uses the 1.3.x versions. Having installations on hard disks with enough hard drive space has made both upgrades, 7.3 and 8.0, pretty painless. As Charles Anderson ;) may likely suggest to you, be sure to read (and digest) the README files on the install disks... probably before you start to alleviate too many surprizes. (Foolish boy that I was, I *didn't*. And to my embarassment, he [rightfully] rubbed my nose in it. But, hey, I learned my lesson.) FYI, this may not be totally meaningful without know how much and just what exactly in installed. But, that said, I'd characterize my installation as medium -- neither slim nor fat. Here's some pertinent partition usages: Filesystem 1K Blocks Used Available % Mounted on /dev/hda3 497861 80662 391495 18% / /dev/hda1 31079 6419 23056 22% /boot /dev/hda11 2063504 98612 1860072 6% /home /dev/hda7 2063504 1209760 748924 62% /usr /dev/hda9 521748 113052 382192 23% /usr/local /dev/hda8 2063504 729108 1229576 38% /usr/share /dev/hda10 521748 154348 340896 32% /usr/src /dev/hda5 497829 76114 396013 17% /var -PG On 10/18/2002 9:53 AM, Richard Goodman <dick(a)goodman1.net> wrote: >I have four RH servers, two 7.0 and two new 7.3 servers just put up >last 6 >weeks or less >How painless would an upgrade of the older servers from 7.0->7.3 >be? Any >surprises I should know about? Any comments or advice? I've never >done a >version upgrade before. > >I already have a CD with the most important security upgrades I used >on the >7.3 servers after I had worm (Slapper/Cinik) problems. > >Dick > > Richard Goodman dick(a)goodman1.net > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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OS X Firewall? (#2)
by Richard Goodman Oct. 21, 2002

Oct. 21, 2002

>I would run a packet sniffer (ethereal, tcpdump, etc) on the Linux box >and see what the iBook is putting out BTW the iBook is running 10.2 (brand new) Could not check the ipfw list as it appears that we don't currently have administrator privileges on the iBook. checking the preferences/sharing/firewall showed the firewall off, however I was concerned about the following entries from the iBook's /var/msg/system.log: IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, logging disabled IP firewall loaded arplookup <IP of my linux box> failed: host is not on localnetwork I have never run a packet sniffer before, so cannot interpret it, but I fired up tcpdump and did a) ping yahoo.com b) attempt to load yahoo.com in IE5 and got the following two dumps (assume I've snipped enough) tcpdump host 192.168.1.49 Kernel filter, protocol ALL, datagram packet socket tcpdump: listening on all devices 15:55:16.232303 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49174 > bach.goodman1.net.domain: 49847+ A? yahoo.com. (2 7) 15:55:16.373034 eth1 > bach.goodman1.net.domain > host49.goodman1.net.49174: 49847* 2/5/5 A w1.rc.vi p.dcx.yahoo.com, A w1.rc.vip.scd.yahoo.com (229) 15:55:16.476477 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:17.476548 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:18.476633 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:19.476745 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:20.476828 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:21.476890 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:22.476949 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:23.477008 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:24.477084 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request <<continued similarly many more lines> tcpdump host 192.168.1.49 Kernel filter, protocol ALL, datagram packet socket tcpdump: listening on all devices 16:01:00.340200 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49174 > bach.goodman1.net.domain: 45963+ A? www.yahoo.com . (31) 16:01:00.558192 eth1 > bach.goodman1.net.domain > host49.goodman1.net.49174: 45963 13/10/3 CNAME www .yahoo.akadns.net., A www9.dcx.yahoo.com, A w9.dcx.yahoo.com, (504) 16:01:00.563859 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > www9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 1383754426:1383754426(0 ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8687 0> (DF) 16:01:01.247337 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > w9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 2642071908:2642071908(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8688 0> (DF) 16:01:01.962006 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > w3.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 3424625619:3424625619(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8689 0> (DF) 16:01:02.719348 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > www10.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 715459341:715459341(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8691 0> (DF) 16:01:03.433706 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > w2.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 3613744425:3613744425(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8692 0> (DF) 16:01:04.115338 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > w6.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 941366980:941366980(0) wi n 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8694 0> (DF) 16:01:04.796809 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > w8.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 1223626321:1223626321(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8695 0> (DF) 16:01:05.480085 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > w1.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 1755119059:1755119059(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8696 0> (DF) 16:01:05.550034 eth1 > arp who-has host49.goodman1.net tell localhost.localdomain (0:80:19:35:ad:39) 16:01:05.550329 eth1 < arp reply host49.goodman1.net is-at 0:3:93:c5:39:7c (0:80:19:35:ad:39) 16:01:06.163479 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > www7.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 2895506991:2895506991(0 ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8698 0> (DF) 16:01:06.846666 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > www8.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 3434260281:3434260281(0 ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8699 0> (DF) 16:01:07.529897 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > www9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 2654995975:2654995975(0 ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8701 0> (DF) 16:01:09.379617 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > w9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 607986242:607986242(0) wi n 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8704 0> (DF) 16:01:11.231084 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > w3.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 1683897864:1683897864(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8708 0> (DF) 16:01:13.079138 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > www10.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 3195269927:3195269927( 0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8712 0> (DF) 16:01:14.929941 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > w2.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 1831211410:1831211410(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8715 0> (DF) 16:01:16.778674 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > w6.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 3961536773:3961536773(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8719 0> (DF) 16:01:18.628462 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > w8.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 4286238440:4286238440(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8723 0> (DF) Does this provide enough information? Dick

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OS X firewall ?
by Richard Goodman Oct. 20, 2002

Oct. 20, 2002

I put the question to the list because I think its related enough to be of interest. My wife just got a top-of-the-line iBook with OS X from school. Connects to the network at school instantly as it should. (I am brand new on OS X) At home I run an network based on a RH7.0 box with IpMasq and some servers going to a static-IP DSL line. About 10 machines, mixed Win and Mac, mixed static and DHCP. When she starts up the iBook: a) the DHCP server on the Linux box shows the normal DHCPREQUEST and DHCPACK lines. b) the Network panel on the iBook shows all the values I would expect to have been handed off by DHCP, 192.168.1.x IP, 255.255.255.0 mask, 192.168.1.1 gateway c) but unable to connect to the internet I found "Terminal" and was able to: d) ping the linux box e) do a nslookup against the name server on the linux box, resolving outside domain names f) bring up web pages running on the Apache server on the linux box But I don't seem to be able to get outside I thought the first thing to try would be to disable the IP Firewall that's being started on the iBook, but haven't been able to figure out how (or where its files are). BTW I run a fairly strict firewall on the linux box and the log shows no hits related to the iBook attempting to get outside. Or I could be totally off base, in which case I would be open to other avenues towards fixing this. Less related: There is an Apple Select 360 appletalk laserwriter on the network, connected thru an Asante appletalk/ethernet bridge which my wife has used with her G3. She can select it through the chooser on the iBook, and we can read and set printer config info, but although everything appears normal when printing for an application in OS9 classic, nothing gets to the printer (and no blinking green light indicating data transfer). Dick

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Re: [Wlug] RH 7.0->7.3 upgrade
by Peter Gutowski Oct. 18, 2002

Oct. 18, 2002

On 10/18/2002 1:23 PM, Wes Allen <wallen(a)charter.net> wrote: >On Friday 18 October 2002 11:03, Peter Gutowski wrote: >> I'd suggest that you consider upgrading to 8.0. I've been very >>impressed with the........ ...snip... >Is the php module ready for 2.x? I've been thinking about giving >RH 8.0 a try >to see if I can make use of my usb ports! RHL8.0 includes PHP 4.2.2, plus various modules (libphp4.so for apache, imap, mysql, etc....) You might need to rework portions of the /etc/php.ini file, but it seems to be a straight shot. -PG

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RH 7.0->7.3 upgrade
by Richard Goodman Oct. 18, 2002

Oct. 18, 2002

I have four RH servers, two 7.0 and two new 7.3 servers just put up last 6 weeks or less How painless would an upgrade of the older servers from 7.0->7.3 be? Any surprises I should know about? Any comments or advice? I've never done a version upgrade before. I already have a CD with the most important security upgrades I used on the 7.3 servers after I had worm (Slapper/Cinik) problems. Dick Richard Goodman dick(a)goodman1.net

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Re: duplicate entry in mdstat with RAID-5
by Neil Brown Oct. 18, 2002

Oct. 18, 2002

On Thursday October 17, karl(a)mail.accusense.com wrote: > > Can someone please help me fix this problem? I don't know if my data is > safe at the moment. > > > I have double entries for hde1 and hde in /proc/mdstat. The problem arose > when i did a raidhotadd for /dev/hde then again for /dev/hde1. Doh. Is > this a problem? How do i fix it? I would like to be using hde1, hdf1, > hdc1 > > The problem arose when the 60GB /dev/hde failed. I replaced it with an > 80GB drive. > > I am running redhat 7.2 with their kernel 2.4.9-31 > > > # cat /proc/mdstat > Personalities : [raid5] > read_ahead 1024 sectors > md0 : active raid5 hde1[3] hde[2] hdf1[1] hdc1[0] > 120102912 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 0 [3/3] [UUU] > > unused devices: <none> So the raid is made of hdc1 hdf1 hde, with hde1 as a hot spare.. Not what you want. raidhotremove /dev/md0 /dev/hde1 raidsetfaulty /dev/md0 /dev/hde raidhotremove /dev/md0 /dev/hde Repartition hde correctly, the partition table will have been corrupted. raidhotadd /dev/md0 /dev/hde1 and don't make a typo this time :-) NeilBrown > > ---- > # fdisk -l /dev/hde > > Disk /dev/hde: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 155061 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes > > Disk /dev/hde doesn't contain a valid partition table > ----- > > # fdisk -l /dev/hdc > Disk /dev/hdc: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 119150 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hdc1 * 1 119150 60051568+ fd Linux raid autodetect > > ---- > # fdisk -l /dev/hdf > Disk /dev/hdf: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 119150 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hdf1 1 119150 60051568+ fd Linux raid autodetect > > > -- > /var/log/messages file > when i tried to remove /dev/hde with raidhotremove > > > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: trying to remove hde from md0 ... > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: bug in file md.c, line 2344 > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md:^I********************************** > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md:^I* <COMPLETE RAID STATE PRINTOUT> * > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md:^I********************************** > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md0: <hde1><hde><hdf1><hdc1> array > superblock: > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: SB: (V:0.90.0) > ID:<a595074f.25e94a64.bec4b48a.e946a7b6> CT:3bdeb7e7 > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: L5 S60051456 ND:4 RD:3 md0 LO:0 > CS:65536 > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: UT:3daf6d69 ST:0 AD:3 WD:4 FD:0 SD:1 > CSUM:99d87466 E:0000009c > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 0: DISK<N:0,hdc1(22,1),R:0,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 1: DISK<N:1,hdf1(33,65),R:1,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 2: DISK<N:2,hde(33,0),R:2,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 3: DISK<N:3,hde1(33,1),R:3,S:0> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: THIS: DISK<N:3,hde1(33,1),R:3,S:0> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: rdev hde1: O:hde1, SZ:60051456 F:0 DN:3 > md: rdev superblock: > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: SB: (V:0.90.0) > ID:<a595074f.25e94a64.bec4b48a.e946a7b6> CT:3bdeb7e7 > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: L5 S60051456 ND:4 RD:3 md0 LO:0 > CS:65536 > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: UT:3daf6d69 ST:0 AD:3 WD:4 FD:0 SD:1 > CSUM:99d874aa E:0000009c > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 0: DISK<N:0,hdc1(22,1),R:0,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 1: DISK<N:1,hdf1(33,65),R:1,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 2: DISK<N:2,hde(33,0),R:2,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 3: DISK<N:3,hde1(33,1),R:3,S:0> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: THIS: DISK<N:3,hde1(33,1),R:3,S:0> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: rdev hde: O:hde, SZ:78150656 F:0 DN:2 md: > rdev superblock: > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: SB: (V:0.90.0) > ID:<a595074f.25e94a64.bec4b48a.e946a7b6> CT:3bdeb7e7 > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: L5 S60051456 ND:4 RD:3 md0 LO:0 > CS:65536 > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: UT:3daf6d69 ST:0 AD:3 WD:4 FD:0 SD:1 > CSUM:99d874ad E:0000009c > > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 0: DISK<N:0,hdc1(22,1),R:0,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 1: DISK<N:1,hdf1(33,65),R:1,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 2: DISK<N:2,hde(33,0),R:2,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 3: DISK<N:3,hde1(33,1),R:3,S:0> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: THIS: DISK<N:2,hde(33,0),R:2,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: rdev hdf1: O:hdf1, SZ:60051456 F:0 DN:1 > md: rdev superblock: > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: SB: (V:0.90.0) > ID:<a595074f.25e94a64.bec4b48a.e946a7b6> CT:3bdeb7e7 > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: L5 S60051456 ND:4 RD:3 md0 LO:0 > CS:65536 > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: UT:3daf6d69 ST:0 AD:3 WD:4 FD:0 SD:1 > CSUM:99d874ec E:0000009c > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 0: DISK<N:0,hdc1(22,1),R:0,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 1: DISK<N:1,hdf1(33,65),R:1,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 2: DISK<N:2,hde(33,0),R:2,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 3: DISK<N:3,hde1(33,1),R:3,S:0> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: THIS: DISK<N:1,hdf1(33,65),R:1,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: rdev hdc1: O:hdc1, SZ:60051456 F:0 DN:0 > md: rdev superblock: > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: SB: (V:0.90.0) > ID:<a595074f.25e94a64.bec4b48a.e946a7b6> CT:3bdeb7e7 > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: L5 S60051456 ND:4 RD:3 md0 LO:0 > CS:65536 > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: UT:3daf6d69 ST:0 AD:3 WD:4 FD:0 SD:1 > CSUM:99d8749f E:0000009c > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 0: DISK<N:0,hdc1(22,1),R:0,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 1: DISK<N:1,hdf1(33,65),R:1,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 2: DISK<N:2,hde(33,0),R:2,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 3: DISK<N:3,hde1(33,1),R:3,S:0> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: THIS: DISK<N:0,hdc1(22,1),R:0,S:6> > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md:^I********************************** > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: > Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: cannot remove active disk hde from md0 > ... > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: interrupting MD-thread pid 130 > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: raid5d(130) flushing signals. > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: marking sb clean... > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: updating md0 RAID superblock on device > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: hde1 [events: 0000009d](write) hde1's sb > offset: 60051456 > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: hde [events: 0000009d](write) hde's sb > offset: 78150656 > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: hdf1 [events: 0000009d](write) hdf1's sb > offset: 60051456 > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: hdc1 [events: 0000009d](write) hdc1's sb > offset: 60051456 > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: md0 stopped. > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: unbind<hde1,3> > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: export_rdev(hde1) > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: unbind<hde,2> > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: export_rdev(hde) > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: unbind<hdf1,1> > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: export_rdev(hdf1) > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: unbind<hdc1,0> > Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: export_rdev(hdc1) > Oct 17 22:28:12 data dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.2.113 from > 00:50:fc:21:77:64 via eth0 > Oct 17 22:29:48 data kernel: (read) hdc1's sb offset: 60051456 [events: > 0000009d] > Oct 17 22:29:48 data kernel: (read) hdf1's sb offset: 60051456 [events: > 0000009d] > Oct 17 22:29:48 data kernel: (read) hde's sb offset: 78150656 [events: > 0000009d] > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: (read) hde1's sb offset: 60051456 [events: > 0000009d] > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: autorun ... > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: considering hde1 ... > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: adding hde1 ... > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: adding hde ... > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: adding hdf1 ... > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: adding hdc1 ... > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: created md0 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: bind<hdc1,1> > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: bind<hdf1,2> > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: bind<hde,3> > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md0: WARNING: hde1 appears to be on the same > physical disk as hde. True > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: protection against single-disk failure > might be compromised. > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: bind<hde1,4> > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: running: <hde1><hde><hdf1><hdc1> > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hde1's event counter: 0000009d > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hde's event counter: 0000009d > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hdf1's event counter: 0000009d > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hdc1's event counter: 0000009d > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md0: max total readahead window set to 512k > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md0: 2 data-disks, max readahead per > data-disk: 256k > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: raid5: spare disk hde1 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: raid5: device hde operational as raid disk 2 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: raid5: device hdf1 operational as raid disk 1 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: raid5: device hdc1 operational as raid disk 0 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: raid5: allocated 3291kB for md0 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: raid5: raid level 5 set md0 active with 3 out > of 3 devices, algorithm 0 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: RAID5 conf printout: > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: --- rd:3 wd:3 fd:0 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: disk 0, s:0, o:1, n:0 rd:0 us:1 dev:hdc1 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: disk 1, s:0, o:1, n:1 rd:1 us:1 dev:hdf1 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: disk 2, s:0, o:1, n:2 rd:2 us:1 dev:hde > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: RAID5 conf printout: > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: --- rd:3 wd:3 fd:0 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: disk 0, s:0, o:1, n:0 rd:0 us:1 dev:hdc1 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: disk 1, s:0, o:1, n:1 rd:1 us:1 dev:hdf1 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: disk 2, s:0, o:1, n:2 rd:2 us:1 dev:hde > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: updating md0 RAID superblock on device > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hde1 [events: 0000009e](write) hde1's sb > offset: 60051456 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hde [events: 0000009e](write) hde's sb > offset: 78150656 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hdf1 [events: 0000009e](write) hdf1's sb > offset: 60051456 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hdc1 [events: 0000009e](write) hdc1's sb > offset: 60051456 > Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: ... autorun DONE. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Karl Hiramoto - Design Engineer > Cambridge Accusense > www.accusense.com > Tel: 978-425-2090 > Toll Free in US: 1-800-313-9271 > Fax: 978-425-4062 > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in > the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

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duplicate entry in mdstat with RAID-5 (fwd)
by Karl Hiramoto Oct. 18, 2002

Oct. 18, 2002

Can someone please help me fix this problem? I don't know if my data is safe at the moment. I have double entries for hde1 and hde in /proc/mdstat. The problem arose when i did a raidhotadd for /dev/hde then again for /dev/hde1. Doh. Is this a problem? How do i fix it? I would like to be using hde1, hdf1, hdc1 The problem arose when the 60GB /dev/hde failed. I replaced it with an 80GB drive. I am running redhat 7.2 with their kernel 2.4.9-31 # cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid5] read_ahead 1024 sectors md0 : active raid5 hde1[3] hde[2] hdf1[1] hdc1[0] 120102912 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 0 [3/3] [UUU] unused devices: <none> ---- # fdisk -l /dev/hde Disk /dev/hde: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 155061 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes Disk /dev/hde doesn't contain a valid partition table ----- # fdisk -l /dev/hdc Disk /dev/hdc: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 119150 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdc1 * 1 119150 60051568+ fd Linux raid autodetect ---- # fdisk -l /dev/hdf Disk /dev/hdf: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 119150 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdf1 1 119150 60051568+ fd Linux raid autodetect -- /var/log/messages file when i tried to remove /dev/hde with raidhotremove Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: trying to remove hde from md0 ... Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: bug in file md.c, line 2344 Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md:^I********************************** Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md:^I* <COMPLETE RAID STATE PRINTOUT> * Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md:^I********************************** Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md0: <hde1><hde><hdf1><hdc1> array superblock: Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: SB: (V:0.90.0) ID:<a595074f.25e94a64.bec4b48a.e946a7b6> CT:3bdeb7e7 Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: L5 S60051456 ND:4 RD:3 md0 LO:0 CS:65536 Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: UT:3daf6d69 ST:0 AD:3 WD:4 FD:0 SD:1 CSUM:99d87466 E:0000009c Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 0: DISK<N:0,hdc1(22,1),R:0,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 1: DISK<N:1,hdf1(33,65),R:1,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 2: DISK<N:2,hde(33,0),R:2,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 3: DISK<N:3,hde1(33,1),R:3,S:0> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: THIS: DISK<N:3,hde1(33,1),R:3,S:0> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: rdev hde1: O:hde1, SZ:60051456 F:0 DN:3 md: rdev superblock: Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: SB: (V:0.90.0) ID:<a595074f.25e94a64.bec4b48a.e946a7b6> CT:3bdeb7e7 Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: L5 S60051456 ND:4 RD:3 md0 LO:0 CS:65536 Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: UT:3daf6d69 ST:0 AD:3 WD:4 FD:0 SD:1 CSUM:99d874aa E:0000009c Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 0: DISK<N:0,hdc1(22,1),R:0,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 1: DISK<N:1,hdf1(33,65),R:1,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 2: DISK<N:2,hde(33,0),R:2,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 3: DISK<N:3,hde1(33,1),R:3,S:0> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: THIS: DISK<N:3,hde1(33,1),R:3,S:0> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: rdev hde: O:hde, SZ:78150656 F:0 DN:2 md: rdev superblock: Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: SB: (V:0.90.0) ID:<a595074f.25e94a64.bec4b48a.e946a7b6> CT:3bdeb7e7 Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: L5 S60051456 ND:4 RD:3 md0 LO:0 CS:65536 Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: UT:3daf6d69 ST:0 AD:3 WD:4 FD:0 SD:1 CSUM:99d874ad E:0000009c Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 0: DISK<N:0,hdc1(22,1),R:0,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 1: DISK<N:1,hdf1(33,65),R:1,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 2: DISK<N:2,hde(33,0),R:2,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 3: DISK<N:3,hde1(33,1),R:3,S:0> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: THIS: DISK<N:2,hde(33,0),R:2,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: rdev hdf1: O:hdf1, SZ:60051456 F:0 DN:1 md: rdev superblock: Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: SB: (V:0.90.0) ID:<a595074f.25e94a64.bec4b48a.e946a7b6> CT:3bdeb7e7 Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: L5 S60051456 ND:4 RD:3 md0 LO:0 CS:65536 Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: UT:3daf6d69 ST:0 AD:3 WD:4 FD:0 SD:1 CSUM:99d874ec E:0000009c Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 0: DISK<N:0,hdc1(22,1),R:0,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 1: DISK<N:1,hdf1(33,65),R:1,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 2: DISK<N:2,hde(33,0),R:2,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 3: DISK<N:3,hde1(33,1),R:3,S:0> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: THIS: DISK<N:1,hdf1(33,65),R:1,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: rdev hdc1: O:hdc1, SZ:60051456 F:0 DN:0 md: rdev superblock: Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: SB: (V:0.90.0) ID:<a595074f.25e94a64.bec4b48a.e946a7b6> CT:3bdeb7e7 Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: L5 S60051456 ND:4 RD:3 md0 LO:0 CS:65536 Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: UT:3daf6d69 ST:0 AD:3 WD:4 FD:0 SD:1 CSUM:99d8749f E:0000009c Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 0: DISK<N:0,hdc1(22,1),R:0,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 1: DISK<N:1,hdf1(33,65),R:1,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 2: DISK<N:2,hde(33,0),R:2,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: D 3: DISK<N:3,hde1(33,1),R:3,S:0> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: THIS: DISK<N:0,hdc1(22,1),R:0,S:6> Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md:^I********************************** Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: Oct 17 22:17:15 data kernel: md: cannot remove active disk hde from md0 ... Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: interrupting MD-thread pid 130 Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: raid5d(130) flushing signals. Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: marking sb clean... Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: updating md0 RAID superblock on device Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: hde1 [events: 0000009d](write) hde1's sb offset: 60051456 Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: hde [events: 0000009d](write) hde's sb offset: 78150656 Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: hdf1 [events: 0000009d](write) hdf1's sb offset: 60051456 Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: hdc1 [events: 0000009d](write) hdc1's sb offset: 60051456 Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: md0 stopped. Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: unbind<hde1,3> Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: export_rdev(hde1) Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: unbind<hde,2> Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: export_rdev(hde) Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: unbind<hdf1,1> Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: export_rdev(hdf1) Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: unbind<hdc1,0> Oct 17 22:23:11 data kernel: md: export_rdev(hdc1) Oct 17 22:28:12 data dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.2.113 from 00:50:fc:21:77:64 via eth0 Oct 17 22:29:48 data kernel: (read) hdc1's sb offset: 60051456 [events: 0000009d] Oct 17 22:29:48 data kernel: (read) hdf1's sb offset: 60051456 [events: 0000009d] Oct 17 22:29:48 data kernel: (read) hde's sb offset: 78150656 [events: 0000009d] Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: (read) hde1's sb offset: 60051456 [events: 0000009d] Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: autorun ... Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: considering hde1 ... Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: adding hde1 ... Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: adding hde ... Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: adding hdf1 ... Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: adding hdc1 ... Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: created md0 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: bind<hdc1,1> Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: bind<hdf1,2> Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: bind<hde,3> Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md0: WARNING: hde1 appears to be on the same physical disk as hde. True Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: protection against single-disk failure might be compromised. Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: bind<hde1,4> Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: running: <hde1><hde><hdf1><hdc1> Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hde1's event counter: 0000009d Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hde's event counter: 0000009d Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hdf1's event counter: 0000009d Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hdc1's event counter: 0000009d Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md0: max total readahead window set to 512k Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md0: 2 data-disks, max readahead per data-disk: 256k Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: raid5: spare disk hde1 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: raid5: device hde operational as raid disk 2 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: raid5: device hdf1 operational as raid disk 1 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: raid5: device hdc1 operational as raid disk 0 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: raid5: allocated 3291kB for md0 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: raid5: raid level 5 set md0 active with 3 out of 3 devices, algorithm 0 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: RAID5 conf printout: Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: --- rd:3 wd:3 fd:0 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: disk 0, s:0, o:1, n:0 rd:0 us:1 dev:hdc1 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: disk 1, s:0, o:1, n:1 rd:1 us:1 dev:hdf1 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: disk 2, s:0, o:1, n:2 rd:2 us:1 dev:hde Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: RAID5 conf printout: Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: --- rd:3 wd:3 fd:0 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: disk 0, s:0, o:1, n:0 rd:0 us:1 dev:hdc1 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: disk 1, s:0, o:1, n:1 rd:1 us:1 dev:hdf1 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: disk 2, s:0, o:1, n:2 rd:2 us:1 dev:hde Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: updating md0 RAID superblock on device Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hde1 [events: 0000009e](write) hde1's sb offset: 60051456 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hde [events: 0000009e](write) hde's sb offset: 78150656 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hdf1 [events: 0000009e](write) hdf1's sb offset: 60051456 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: hdc1 [events: 0000009e](write) hdc1's sb offset: 60051456 Oct 17 22:29:49 data kernel: md: ... autorun DONE. Thanks, -------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Hiramoto - Design Engineer Cambridge Accusense www.accusense.com Tel: 978-425-2090 Toll Free in US: 1-800-313-9271 Fax: 978-425-4062

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usb 2.0 backward compatable? yes?
by Wesley Allen Oct. 16, 2002

Oct. 16, 2002

Hi gang, I did some research on whether or not usb 2.0 card (pci and pcmcia) would work with the 2.4 kernel. If I read right, the answer is yes, they will be seen as usb 1.0 and be able to use those drivers. Is this correct? Now, if I've got problem with my stupid bios not assigning a correct irq on my built-in usb controller, will this issue pan over to a pcmcia card as well? I've got no problem getting a new card for doing this, as I'd eventually want to have usb 2.0 devices come the 2.6 (3.0?) kernel anyway. I'd just be doing it sooner (and if mandrake figures out how to circumvent my bios, I'll have 4 or 6 ports! :-) ). Wes

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RH 8
by Aramico Oct. 16, 2002

Oct. 16, 2002

Till now, i still get the problem in downloading RH 8 in several diffrent places. Can somebody tell me where can i download it ? All available sites are using identification's login for now.. ..while the other could not be touched using wget...... ;( Thanks!

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Re: [Wlug] Old RAM (OT)
by Thomas Carey Oct. 14, 2002

Oct. 14, 2002

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Old RAM (OT)
by Tim Trachimowicz Oct. 14, 2002

Oct. 14, 2002

Hey folks! Since you're probably the biggest group of people I know that might have unused hardware floating around, I figured I'd see if you guys can help me out. I'm searching for some RAM for an older PC I have. Specifically, it's 66mhz SDRAM for a Compaq Deskpro that I'm trying to turn into something useful. Anyways, I was wondeirng if any of you guys might have a DIMM or two flaoting around that's gathering dust (I'll pay you for it) or might know where I can find some on the cheap, before I hit up any of the big guys that I know have the RAM (but at a premium price). Thanks, Tim

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Cinik worm (mod_ssl)
by Richard Goodman Oct. 13, 2002

Oct. 13, 2002

I have two rather new RH7.3 servers, which I installed without any patches (dumb- had never installed patches before). A couple of weeks ago both got infected with [different] strains of the Cinik (mod_ssl) worm. On machine "A" I shut down Apache for about a week, and left "B" running. On 10/5/02 I downloaded and installed RH patches for apache, bind, glibc, openssh, openssl, php and mod_ssl on both machines. I deleted the cinik stuff from /tmp. Machine "B" has been worm-free since. Cinik reappeared on machine "A" overnight last night -- process running and the usual suspect files back in /tmp. I happened to look in /var/log/cron (on the subject of cron I am rather clueless) and saw the following suspicious entries in the time frame when I believe the worm reappeared: Oct 13 05:20:00 archive3 CROND[25572]: (root) CMD (/usr/bin/mrtg /etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg) Oct 13 05:20:00 archive3 CROND[25573]: (root) CMD (/usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1) Oct 13 05:25:00 archive3 CROND[25577]: (root) CMD (/usr/bin/mrtg /etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg) Oct 13 05:26:34 archive3 crontab[25622]: (apache) REPLACE (apache) Oct 13 05:27:00 archive3 crond[858]: (apache) RELOAD (cron/apache) Oct 13 05:27:29 archive3 crontab[25630]: (apache) REPLACE (apache) Oct 13 05:27:29 archive3 crontab[25635]: (apache) REPLACE (apache) Oct 13 05:27:29 archive3 crontab[25640]: (apache) REPLACE (apache) Oct 13 05:27:29 archive3 crontab[25645]: (apache) REPLACE (apache) Oct 13 05:28:01 archive3 crond[858]: (apache) RELOAD (cron/apache) Oct 13 05:30:00 archive3 CROND[25666]: (root) CMD (/usr/bin/mrtg /etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg) Oct 13 05:30:00 archive3 CROND[25667]: (root) CMD (/usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1) Oct 13 05:35:00 archive3 CROND[25670]: (root) CMD (/usr/bin/mrtg /etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg) Any suggestions as to what the log entries mean (i.e. who did what to Apache?), and why cinik has reappeared? Also, can someone point me towards a resource about cron so that I may become less clueless? Thanks, Dick

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Installfest Media...
by Keller, Tim Oct. 12, 2002

Oct. 12, 2002

So currently I've got ISO's for Redhat 7.3/8.0 and Mandrake 8.0 (disks 1 and 2, but not the 3rd internationalization disk) What other distributions would people like me to make some copies of? Also, I'm going to put together my obligatory Disk-o-everything. As a side note, I personally think it would be cool if we could have a repository of WLUG goodies, but I know there'd be some logistics around that. So far this is what's going to be on it. (unless otherwise noted, assume I'll be grabbing the latest) Office Stuff: OpenOffice Gimpprint Kernel Stuff: Latest Stable Kernel Sources Latest Unstable Kernel Sources (would like some input here) Sound Stuff: alsa free OSS drivers lame bladeenc cdparanoia grip ogg-vorbis ultramaster xmms xmms plugins Video: Nvidia Drivers (I'll grab everything, for every version they've got) (would like some input here) Video Tools: Cinelerra (and all the stuff that comes with it like Xmovie, etc) (input please!) Burning Tools: cdlabelgen cdrtools gcombust gtoaster xcdroast Browsers: Mozilla Phoenix Opera Netscape plugins video-players: xine mplayer libdvdcss region-changer (would like some input here) Games: Deluxe Xkobo Mame (help...)

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rpm build error
by Bill Mills-Curran Oct. 11, 2002

Oct. 11, 2002

I just rebuilt apache from the RH 8.0 source rpm. The compilation succeeded, but the rpm failed with the following error message: Checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr/lib/rpm/check-files /home/bcurran/tmp/rpmBuild/httpd-root error: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: /etc/httpd/conf/mime.types /usr/bin/apr-config /usr/bin/apu-config /usr/lib/APRVARS <snip-more files> RPM build errors: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: /etc/httpd/conf/mime.types /usr/bin/apr-config /usr/bin/apu-config /usr/lib/APRVARS <snip-more files> Neither the modified source nor the binary rpm were generated. It looks like these files made it into the temporary install area just prior to generating the packages, and they should not have been there. Is there an option I should be using to make the install tree "right"? I know I can modify the spec file to wildcard include everything in the install directories, but that doesn't seem right. My command: "rpmbuild -ba httpd.spec". TIA, Bill

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:( - Need Sendmail Setting!
by Aramico Oct. 11, 2002

Oct. 11, 2002

Hi all, Can u please tell me if you have ever installed and configured sendmail bye your self ? I mean, please tell me step by step the thing have you done for it in order to get sendmail running properly ? Of course including all its need. the available tutorial not helping me so much, i need your detail.. Plz... Thanks...

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Future WLUG meeting dates posted
by Andy Stewart Oct. 11, 2002

Oct. 11, 2002

HI Everybody, I've just posted the meeting dates for the first half of 2003 on the WLUG website. I've also extended an invitation to Jon 'Maddog' Hall to come to speak at a future WLUG meeting, and he has accepted our invitation. He'll visit during our February 20, 2003 meeting. Maddog travels alot and there was no way I could get him to come sooner (we tried). Remember that the Install Fest is only 2 weeks away! I haven't received any e-mails from prospective installees, but that doesn't surprise me since we still have 2 weeks until the event. Nonetheless, please start telling people about this event - advertise it on the WPI campus and tell all your friends! Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Linux Developer (Contract Position)
by Sylvain, Michael Oct. 10, 2002

Oct. 10, 2002

I am working on a three month contract in the Burlington, Ma area. If you or anyone you know might be interested in this position. Please contact me immediately. This is a Jr/Mid level position. Please let me know if you have any questions. Sincerely, Mike Sylvain Recruiter 800-482-9494 ext 6024 508-481-9500 ext. 6024 www.daviscos.com The Davis Companies 33 Boston Post Rd. West Marlborough, MA. 01752 Linux Developer The candidate will participate in the development of complete system architecture for a new mobile device. Responsibilities include significant Linux kernel programming, evaluation of Linux packages and applications and C/C++ programming. Qualifications: * Experience with Linux kernel * Familiar with embedded systems programming * Experience with C/C++ * Start work immediately Knowledge of the following will be a plus: * OS programming * Network programming / socket programming * IEEE 802.11 Wireless LAN * Bluetooth * Java and OOP Length: 3 Months possible extension

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(no subject)
by Aramico Oct. 10, 2002

Oct. 10, 2002

Hi all, Can somebody inform me about what port that should I close in order to disable the connection for YahooMessanger, MSNMessanger, ICQ ? The thing that I wanna know is the port number on my server as clients gateway to connect to the internet that used by ICQ, YahooMesanger, and MSN Messanger. If somebody knows so, please tell me detail, Thanks, Bye there and have a nice day.

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RE: [Wlug] fetchamail!
by Simoncini, Matthew Oct. 10, 2002

Oct. 10, 2002

I second that ... it soundsa good !! > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Homic [mailto:chuck@vvisions.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:18 AM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] fetchamail! > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:11:41AM -0400, Brian J. Conway wrote: > > While we're on this topic, does anyone know of any secure > alternatives to > > Fetchmail? There's seriously a new buffer overflow > announcement every > > week, and it's rather bothersome. I'd be happy to just use > the pop3 > > support in whichever mail client I'm using, but they all > seem to be using > > the Fetchmail code. Perhaps we need OpenFetchmail? ;-) > > Build fetchmail from sources, and link to electric fence. > > Then a dangerous exploit becomes merely an annoying denial of > service. ;) > > BTW, I propose officially changing the name to the much more melodious > 3-syllable FETCHAMAIL! > > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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RE: [Wlug] fetchamail!
by Keller, Tim Oct. 10, 2002

Oct. 10, 2002

Also, it should be noted that whatever version of fetchmail you've got on your machine, your going to want to upgrade it ASAP. A couple buffer overruns (via malformed mail) were just reported the other day... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Homic [mailto:chuck@vvisions.com] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:11 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] fetchamail! On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:44:08AM +0700, Aramico wrote: > how can I get my email using fetchamil ? Fetchmail will use POP or IMAP to get your mail from a remote host and deposit it locally (using whatever local mail setup you have... I think it delivers to your local SMTP). Just make a .fetchmailrc with your servers/passwords and you're in business. "man fetchmail" for more info. -Chuck _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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fetchamail!
by Aramico Oct. 10, 2002

Oct. 10, 2002

Hi all, how can I get my email using fetchamil ? What is the ./fetchmail listing to access my mail server ? Thanks,

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loading modules
by Bill Mills-Curran Oct. 9, 2002

Oct. 9, 2002

I have a situation where I need to use a non-standard kernel module in place of one that comes with the RedHat 8.0 distribution, and I'd like to know the "right" way to achieve this. The module is a device driver for a Qlogic fibre host bus adapter. The reason for the special module is that the one that RedHat supplies does not handle all the fibre configurations we (EMC) need for an EMC/Clariion array. Here's what I've done thus far. 1. I have written an rpm to build the module from source and install it. I have given the module a unique name so it won't conflict with the kernel rpm file. 2. Once installed, I can run depmod, rmmod (on the old module) and modprobe (on the new module). (If I reboot, I don't need to run depmod.) Everything looks fine at this point, and I know I could put the appropriate commands (rmmod & modprobe) into /etc/rc.d/rc.local, but I'm wondering if there is something cleaner. One thing I tried (with no success) was to modify /etc/modules.conf **************** Old: alias scsi_hostadapter1 qla2200 New: alias scsi_hostadapter1 newmodule **************** I thought that this was the line that was making the standard module (qla2200) load. I found that qla2200 loaded even after my change, and the newmodule did not load. Suggestions? TIA, Bill

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X tricks
by brad Oct. 9, 2002

Oct. 9, 2002

Hi All, I was wondering if there is a way to create a window that would be a tunnel into another X server. For example if i'm running a server on :0 and on :1, i would like to have a window, which is connected to :0, that would show what is being displayed on :1. This is similar to how vmware works. When you start vmware in window on :0 it will actually start another X server on :1 and display (in a window) the contents on :1. Is this possible (other then with vmware)? Thanks, --brad

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(no subject)
by Aramico Oct. 9, 2002

Oct. 9, 2002

Hi, Who has the RedHat 8.0 iso cd ? Where can I download all the complette cd of RedHat 8 ? It's not available on redhat's sites anymore ;( Thanks.

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Need a KT133 machine
by Adam Keck Oct. 8, 2002

Oct. 8, 2002

Not specifically Linux related, but... Are any of you fellow AMD fans? If so, are any of you running an Asus KT133 motherboard? I desparately need a machine to place an HD into to do a Disaster Recovery :-/. Chipset fan on mine blew and the board seems to have fried :(. Please reply off list, Thanks very much! -Adam "lingua machinationis creo, ergo sum" _____________________________________________ Adam Keck The Mathworks 508-647-7298 Natick, Ma www.mathworks.com FreeNIX/Backup/Unix Administrator _____________________________________________

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RE: [Wlug] Installfest Media...
by Keller, Tim Oct. 8, 2002

Oct. 8, 2002

Yes, I meant 9.0... Insomnia + Homeworld = really tired! Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Wes Allen [mailto:wallen@charter.net] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:55 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Installfest Media... Tim, Did you mean Mandrake 9.0? I'd get that rather than 8.0; that was just terrible! Wes On Monday 07 October 2002 9:44 am, Keller, Tim wrote: > So currently I've got ISO's for Redhat 7.3/8.0 and Mandrake 8.0 (disks 1 > and 2, but not the 3rd internationalization disk) > > What other distributions would people like me to make some copies of? > > Also, I'm going to put together my obligatory Disk-o-everything. > > As a side note, I personally think it would be cool if we could have a > repository of WLUG goodies, but I know there'd be some logistics around > that. > > So far this is what's going to be on it. > (unless otherwise noted, assume I'll be grabbing the latest) > > Office Stuff: > OpenOffice > Gimpprint > Kernel Stuff: > Latest Stable Kernel Sources > Latest Unstable Kernel Sources > (would like some input here) > Sound Stuff: > alsa > free OSS drivers > lame > bladeenc > cdparanoia > grip > ogg-vorbis > ultramaster > xmms > xmms plugins > Video: > Nvidia Drivers (I'll grab everything, for every version they've got) > (would like some input here) > Video Tools: > Cinelerra (and all the stuff that comes with it like Xmovie, etc) > (input please!) > Burning Tools: > cdlabelgen > cdrtools > gcombust > gtoaster > xcdroast > Browsers: > Mozilla > Phoenix > Opera > Netscape > plugins > video-players: > xine > mplayer > libdvdcss > region-changer > (would like some input here) > Games: > Deluxe Xkobo > Mame > (help...) > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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samba thanks & xmms Q
by Bill Mills-Curran Oct. 7, 2002

Oct. 7, 2002

First, thanks to those who sent suggestions on how to solve my samba configuration problems. My Win98 box is happily using file and print shares from my linux box. (Too bad SANE does not have drivers for the scanner cartridge on my Canon printer. <sigh>) A new question. I tried getting the equalizer on xmms to control the output while playing audio CD's (not MP3's). The volume control on the main window works, and the playlist window works, but the equalizer doesn't. What's the trick? TIA, Bill

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Email Addresses & Spam
by Marc Hughes Oct. 7, 2002

Oct. 7, 2002

Is there any way of getting the email addresses in our mailing list archive removed? I've been getting a bunch of spam lately to hughesm(a)tomsnyder.com ... I just figured out that it was coming from a web spider (the damned fools attached their mailing list to the spam, and it said where it was from!) and the only place I can find that address posted is on the WLUG pages. Archive: http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/ Anyone else get the "BUSINESS ASSISTANCE" from "kabila [lmkcg(a)yahoo.com]" a bunch of times today? -Marc

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RE: [Wlug] Samba Server and its connection with Windows 98.
by Keller, Tim Oct. 7, 2002

Oct. 7, 2002

As a former Tech Support Slave, tinkering with the registry of any Microsoft product is akin to hand editing your compressed kernel image... I'm not saying you can't do it, I just wouldn't.. Plus, any encryption (even microsoft) encryption is better than no encryption any day... Add this line in the global section of your smb.conf file and the world will be a happier place. encrypt passwords = yes Oh, and this works with every version of windows... Later, Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Aramico [mailto:aramico@duahati.com] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 23:39 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Samba Server and its connection with Windows 98. Hi all, Well, may be somebody of you need this information, if not u can ignore it... ;p Well, samba server and its connection to Windows 9* basicly only need this configuration done. It works fine with me here, RedHat 7.2 and its default application ( Including Samba ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- When u install and configuring samba, u must be defining this main several configuration bellow..... 1. Defining the network address to be allowed accessing the Samba Server. 2. Defining the WORKGROUP name. Simply, use the same network address with unique host address in order to estabilsh the connection. for ex :192.168.24.X, u can use this network address and define the -X as host ip. So, by this u got to make the sama workgroup among your server and your client ( Windows 98 ) Please make sure that the user who wants to use the samba server are listed in your server. Instantly, there is a simple registry modification in Windows family, here I'll tell you in case of WINDOWS 98. After finishing the ethernet card, there must be a logon box to be diplayed before you use your windows 98. Here, at the folder defined bellow, create EnablePlainTextPassword and fill 1 as the value. Details : Regedit My Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VNETSUP\En ablePlainTextPassword (DWORD value =1) Restart your windows, then in logon box, enter your Linux|Unix users with its password. U will get your defined shared folder which Linux|Unix define it to shared, Have a nice day..... For more detail, please feel free to ask me about.... I'll just tell u somethin' that I know...... bye there and have a nice day........ - Aramico -

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Richard Stallman Speaking Locally
by Lisa M. Opus Goldstein Oct. 7, 2002

Oct. 7, 2002

Dear People, Richard Stallman, author of the GPL and founder of the GNU Project and the Free Software Foundation, will be speaking in Burlington, Mass on Wednesday October 16, 2002. It is a book-release party for "Free Software, Free Society: Selected Essays of Richard M. Stallman". The web page for the book is http://www.gnu.org/doc/book13.html. Event: Informal Q & A with Richard Stallman Date: Wednesday October 16, 2002 Time: 6:30 PM to about 8:00 PM Location: Softpro Books Vinebrook Plaza 112 Burlington Mall Road Burlington, MA 01803-5300 Tel: 781-273-2917 Web: http://www.softpro.com/ Description of "Free Software, Free Society": The intersection of ethics, law, business and computer software is the subject of this collection of essays and speeches by MacArthur Foundation Grant winner, Richard M. Stallman. It includes historical writings such as The GNU Manifesto, which defined and launched the activist Free Software Movement, along with new writings on current topics such as "trusted computing" and the proposed CBDTPA. Stallman takes a critical look at common abuses of copyright law and patents when applied to computer software programs, and how these abuses damage our entire society and remove our existing freedoms. He also discusses the social aspects of software and how free software can create community and social justice. Over the past twenty years Stallman's arguments and actions have changed the course of software history. Over the years he has received many types of awards; most recently he was elected to the American National Academy of Engineering. Best Regards, Lisa M. Goldstein opus(a)gnu.org Managing Editor, GNU Press Business Manager, Tel 617-542-5942 Free Software Foundation Fax 617-542-2652

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Samba Server and its connection with Windows 98.
by Aramico Oct. 7, 2002

Oct. 7, 2002

Hi all, Well, may be somebody of you need this information, if not u can ignore it... ;p Well, samba server and its connection to Windows 9* basicly only need this configuration done. It works fine with me here, RedHat 7.2 and its default application ( Including Samba ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When u install and configuring samba, u must be defining this main several configuration bellow..... 1. Defining the network address to be allowed accessing the Samba Server. 2. Defining the WORKGROUP name. Simply, use the same network address with unique host address in order to estabilsh the connection. for ex :192.168.24.X, u can use this network address and define the -X as host ip. So, by this u got to make the sama workgroup among your server and your client ( Windows 98 ) Please make sure that the user who wants to use the samba server are listed in your server. Instantly, there is a simple registry modification in Windows family, here I'll tell you in case of WINDOWS 98. After finishing the ethernet card, there must be a logon box to be diplayed before you use your windows 98. Here, at the folder defined bellow, create EnablePlainTextPassword and fill 1 as the value. Details : Regedit My Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VNETSUP\EnablePlainTextPassword (DWORD value =1) Restart your windows, then in logon box, enter your Linux|Unix users with its password. U will get your defined shared folder which Linux|Unix define it to shared, Have a nice day..... For more detail, please feel free to ask me about.... I'll just tell u somethin' that I know...... bye there and have a nice day........ - Aramico -

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Mr Linux basks in the limelight
by Karl Hiramoto Oct. 6, 2002

Oct. 6, 2002

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2300267.stm Linus Torvalds has revealed he is happy to be the poster boy for the anti-Microsoft campaign but would not know what to say if he met Bill Gates. Talking to BBC World ClickOnline at his home in Silicon Valley, the inventor of the Linux operating system admitted that he has never been in the same room with his arch-rival. "We have been at the same conferences but never in the same room. I wouldn't know what to say to him," he told ClickOnline. Mr Torvalds enjoys the notoriety he has achieved as the man that challenged the Microsoft empire with his open source alternative operating system. *Rising to the challenge "In a way it is fun. I'm pleased to be a poster boy. It gives me some self-importance," he said. He would not, however, want to become personally involved in the dispute with Microsoft. "I've tried to stay out of the Microsoft debate. If you start doing things because you hate others and want to screw them over the end result is bad," he said. The main reason he developed Linux in the first place had as much to do with wanting a challenge as being fed up with an operating system that would not do what he wanted it to. Like most technology projects it ran way over the time allotted to it and, to this day, is not truly finished. "It was a lot harder than I expected. I thought, like most of my projects, it would talk half a year and then I'd lose interest," he said. To the relief of his legion of followers he did persevere and eleven years on is still working on it. Reluctance to change While Linux is gradually gaining ground on Microsoft it might well not be suitable for everyone, Mr Torvalds admitted. "Most people don't want to change. They may hate Windows but they run it despite that because, quite frankly, they don't care about computers," he said. And even those that do care, often install Linux without much idea of what they want it to do, he said. Mr Torvalds is not convinced that the open source movement, which has radically altered both the operating system landscape and the mindset of Microsoft itself, will ever entirely topple the Gates empire. "I think, in the end, Linux will be a big part of why it happens but Microsoft is not going to shrink into nothingness in the foreseeable future," he said. Instead it is more likely that Microsoft will become like IBM - "still huge but not the dominant force anymore", he said. The world of coding is beginning to lose importance as Mr Torvalds, ubergeek, admits he has finally found a balance between work and play. *Uber-geek grows up "I have a life too. I have kids now. Linux has been a big part of my life but now I want to have my own time," he told ClickOnline. He revealed that he is more likely to have childrens' parties with bouncy castle and candyfloss than to have a bunch of programmers round. "Part of doing Linux was that I had to communicate a lot more instead of just being a geek in front of a computer. "It has made me more used to talking to people. I still like coding but I have other things to do," he said. Although his followers would dispute it, Mr Torvalds is not convinced the phenomenon of Linux has made him entirely cool. "No-one has ever called me a cool dude. I'm somewhere between geek and normal," he said. -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø When this load is DONE I think I'll wash it AGAIN ...

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Red Hat 8.0
by Charles R. Anderson Oct. 5, 2002

Oct. 5, 2002

Come and get it: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/8.0/en ISO's and full install tree. wpila.org seems to be down right now, so when it comes back could one of you forward my message to them? Thanks. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

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I know the problem, anyone know the commands...
by Wesley Allen Oct. 5, 2002

Oct. 5, 2002

Hi gang, I've tracked down my usb problem. It appears that both my acpi and usb controllers are competing for irq 9; what I need to do is set my irq for usb to 11 and then it should work. How do I switch irq values?? Wes

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Download Plugin for Mozilla...
by Stephen C. Daukas Oct. 4, 2002

Oct. 4, 2002

Hi all! I keep getting this annoying message from Mozilla 1.0 about a Download Plugin Download abvailable from Netscape. This happens almost everytime I go to a webpage to unsubscribe from some of the junk mail I get. I have tried looking for a Download Plugin Download at both Mozilla and Netscape, but have come up empty handed. Anyone know of such a thing? Thanks! Steve

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RE:[Wlug] Red Hat 8.0
by joel jones Oct. 4, 2002

Oct. 4, 2002

Earlier this week I installed a minimalist configuration of RH 8.0 on my old Thinkpad 365XD (P133/40MB/6GB). The configuration works fine except for being slow due to lack of processor and memory (40 MB RAM is max'd). The only snag I ran into was a hang on install just before the first RPM installs. The machine locked up there twice during the text install. I found this lockup only happened to me doing a "custom" install and not the "workstation" install. RH 8.0 does seem improved over RH 7.X in terms of the quality of fonts and GUI mods. I also found more things I could quickly disable features to make life bearable on this old hardware (wallpaper,menu icons,etc). Unfortunately, I have not tried other distributions yet and cannot intelligently compare them to RH 7.X or 8.0. My next step is to find a very small window manager to hopefully make this machine perform reasonably in X. Currently I am considering replacing the default Gnome with either IceWM and Enlightenment. Joel ===================== > >Hello, >About 24 months ago I gave linux RH 6.2 a try. I am not a programmer >and >not very familiar with unix or linux. I did get the linux to run >and was >able to connect to the internet but had a lot of trouble >getting printers >to work and found it generally difficult for someone >with my skill level. > >WLUG was very helpful and I though that in a while I would try again. >I >think that this fall I am going to make another effort. Are there >any >suggestions of what distro to try. Basically I will have a dual >boot >system with either xp or 2000. I have a PII 450 with 196mb ram >and 13gig >HD. > >I appreciate the advice. >Thanks >Tom _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Sendmail
by Aramico Oct. 4, 2002

Oct. 4, 2002

Where can I get detail documentation about Sendmail and Qmail ? I mean, the documentations on their site both are meaningless for me. Well, it's all just about the the pop3, smtp, virtualhost, etc. Thanks!

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sources???
by Bill Mills-Curran Oct. 3, 2002

Oct. 3, 2002

I'm looking at some software I have to build at work, and I'm trying to work with RedHat 8.0, even though I don't have it yet. I'm curious about a particulare "binary" package: kernel-source-2.4.18-14.i386.rpm and similarly: glibc-kernheaders-2.4-7.20.i386.rpm These are clearly source files. How do they compare with: kernel-2.4.18-14.src.rpm ???? In particular, I'd like to try building my package (targeting 8.0) on my 7.2 box. (Maybe that's unrealistic. It's a fibre HBA driver module.) At any rate, why the mixup with the "sources"? And, why would header files be non-relocatable on the install? (At least the kernel headers are with 7.2. TIA, Bill

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RE: [Wlug] I know the problem, anyone know the commands...
by Keller, Tim Oct. 3, 2002

Oct. 3, 2002

You should be able to specify with options in the conf.modules or modules.conf when the module loads which IRQ to use. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Wesley Allen [mailto:wallen@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 16:16 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] I know the problem, anyone know the commands... Hi gang, I've tracked down my usb problem. It appears that both my acpi and usb controllers are competing for irq 9; what I need to do is set my irq for usb to 11 and then it should work. How do I switch irq values?? Wes _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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The Case for Linux in Universities
by Karl Hiramoto Oct. 3, 2002

Oct. 3, 2002

http://www.kegel.com/linux/edu/ -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd people. - Linus on MAP_COPY

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RE: [Wlug] samba shares & win98 usernames
by Simoncini, Matthew Oct. 3, 2002

Oct. 3, 2002

I'm sorry I didn't follow this thread from the start, but I can explain how we have Samba setup at our client site: We are running Samba 2.2.2 on the server side (Solaris 2.6 or 2.7) with mostly Windows 2000 clients connecting on the client side. When I want to map my home directory from my Windows 2000 client, I use Map Network Drive and supply the following information: Drive: <some letter> Folder: \\clemens\simoncim When I hit finish, it maps my Unix home directory without any problems.

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samba shares & win98 usernames
by Bill Mills-Curran Oct. 3, 2002

Oct. 3, 2002

I want to set up some samba shares to be mounted on my win98 box, and I'd like to protect the shares with usernames and passwords, but I can't remember how to specify a username from the win98 box. I seem to remember a way by adding the username to the share spec, but I can't find any documentation on the subject. Any ideas? Or should I use a different approach? (I have 3 kids & a wife who are mainly windows users, but will sometimes use my linux box. I'd like them to be able to read/write their files from either machine.) TIA, Bill

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Hi all
by Wesley Allen Oct. 3, 2002

Oct. 3, 2002

Hi all, I got mandrake 9.0 on my laptop (now XP-less, smile) and I love it. However, I've got two problems.... 1. My usb devices are not accepting addresses, I've got a dmesg log in a file if you want to see it. 2. I can't get tpconfig to work! Does anyone know if the patch was pre-installed for tpconfig in previous mdk's? I used to be able to install the rpm and it just worked, now it doesn't work at all (and I hate "tapping"). Thanks gang, I learn a lot from this list! Wes

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Configuring Apache With SSL
by Aramico Oct. 2, 2002

Oct. 2, 2002

I've just install the latest version of openssl, now how can i get the detail information to configure it with Apache. Thanks,

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openssl upgrade - U might b need it ;p
by Aramico Oct. 2, 2002

Oct. 2, 2002

Well, about my problem in upgrading my remote server with the latest version of openssl, apache and other its need to avoid getting the error.... Just wanna tell u this, you might be need it, if not... just ignore it.... ;p Well, at the first time, before removing the available openssl, you might have to enable the TELNET CONNECTION first. It's better to completely remove the available openssl first, but remember to ENABLE THE TELNET CONNECTION first. After removing the old openssl, you can not make any other SSH connection to your remote machine. You have got to do this fast, do not let the TELNET CONNECTION enable for a long time period. Get the latest openssl in www.openssl.com, and follow the instruction. Dont be affraid of libcrypto.* proble. Just configured the openssl installation with shared (./configure --prefix=/YOUR_OPENSSL_DIR_TARGET --openssldir=/YOUR_OPENSSL_DIR_TARGET shared) That's the main idean that I would like to say, shared. It's automatically created the latest file of libcrypto.* and other its need. Simple, make the duplicate of the needed file and create a link from a defined .so as .so asked. Then, you can simply close the TELNET CONNECTION (using chkconfig --level 3 telnet off - Redhat) and re-enabling the ssh connection by typing /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd restart) Good Luck...... ;p

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RE: [Wlug] samba shares & win98 usernames
by Marc Hughes Oct. 2, 2002

Oct. 2, 2002

I don't know about win98, but on 2000, when you "Map Network Drive" there's a hyperlink (yes, hyperlink... Don't ask me why it wouldn't be a button, or even better a checkbox with a slightly different program flow ... But enough of my rant about MS bad UI design) that says "Connect using a different username". If you hit that, you can specify a username when connecting. I've also noticed if I connect to \\server\hughesm (my home directory) it will ask for my username & password, I log into windows as MarcH, and then if I connect to any other share on that server it uses that name, but it only asks me for a username for my home directory... Of course this is win2k again, and we all know how consistant MS is. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Bill Mills-Curran [mailto:subssn594@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:43 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] samba shares & win98 usernames I want to set up some samba shares to be mounted on my win98 box, and I'd like to protect the shares with usernames and passwords, but I can't remember how to specify a username from the win98 box. I seem to remember a way by adding the username to the share spec, but I can't find any documentation on the subject. Any ideas? Or should I use a different approach? (I have 3 kids & a wife who are mainly windows users, but will sometimes use my linux box. I'd like them to be able to read/write their files from either machine.) TIA, Bill _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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You might be needed!
by Aramico Oct. 2, 2002

Oct. 2, 2002

Well, about my problem in upgrading my remote server with the latest version of openssl, apache and other its need to avoid getting the error.... Just wanna tell u this, you might be need it, if not... just ignore it.... ;p Well, at the first time, before removing the available openssl, you might have to enable the TELNET CONNECTION first. It's better to completely remove the available openssl first, but remember to ENABLE THE TELNET CONNECTION first. After removing the old openssl, you can not make any other SSH connection to your remote machine. You have got to do this fast, do not let the TELNET CONNECTION enable for a long time period. Get the latest openssl in www.openssl.com, and follow the instruction. Dont be affraid of libcrypto.* proble. Just configured the openssl installation with shared (./configure --prefix=/YOUR_OPENSSL_DIR_TARGET --openssldir=/YOUR_OPENSSL_DIR_TARGET shared) That's the main idean that I would like to say, shared. It's automatically created the latest file of libcrypto.* and other its need. Simple, make the duplicate of the needed file and create a link from a defined .so as .so asked. Then, you can simply close the TELNET CONNECTION (using chkconfig --level 3 telnet off - Redhat) and re-enabling the ssh connection by typing /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd restart) Good Luck...... ;p

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RE: [Wlug] Sendmail
by Simoncini, Matthew Oct. 1, 2002

Oct. 1, 2002

Sendmail by O'Reilly ISBN: 1565922220 -----Original Message----- From: Aramico [mailto:aramico@duahati.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 6:28 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Sendmail Where can I get detail documentation about Sendmail and Qmail ? I mean, the documentations on their site both are meaningless for me. Well, it's all just about the the pop3, smtp, virtualhost, etc. Thanks!

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hmmm
by jeff Oct. 1, 2002

Oct. 1, 2002

is it just me? or are you guys seeing lots of spam mail too. just curious. -jeff

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Redhat mirror
by Haines, Charles Allen Sept. 30, 2002

Sept. 30, 2002

I saw a redhat mirror float across here, but I accidently deleted the email. What was the mirror again? ----------------------------------------- Chuck Haines GDC Systems Administrator Infinity Complex Developer WPILA Lab Manager ----------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex ICQ: 3707881 Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 Cell: (410) 610-6343. ----------------------------------------- "Geek by nature, Linux by choice."

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Completelly Uninstall for .tar version!
by Aramico Sept. 30, 2002

Sept. 30, 2002

How can i make a completelly uninstall for an application that has been installed by using .tar sources ?

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Latest SSH.
by Aramico Sept. 30, 2002

Sept. 30, 2002

Hi, I've removed my ssl rpm before, now I'm installing the latest version of ssl (openssl - openssl-0.9.6g.tar.gz ). Everythin' goes okay, no error found.... THat something i confused just about getting this message when i'm trying to start up the sshd. sshd: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory In fact, how can i get the source of libcrypto.so.2, how can i make a link to this ? the source ? THanks.

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Re: [Wlug] Charter Pipeline Networking
by Thomas Carey Sept. 29, 2002

Sept. 29, 2002

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Oct 24, 2002: Install Fest !
by Andy Stewart Sept. 28, 2002

Sept. 28, 2002

HI Everybody, I have reserved the HIggins Labs discovery classroom (HL218?) for our upcoming install fest! This is scheduled for Thursday, Oct. 24, which is the night which was scheduled for our next WLUG meeting. I thought that the first week of B term would work out well for the WPI undergraduates. In place of the meeting, we'll have the install fest from 6:30 - 9:30 PM (yes, the time is earlier for this occasion). I will update the website shortly. If you know people who are interested in having us help them with a Linux installation, please ask them to send me an e-mail so I can keep track. We can probably accomodate folks who want us to configure something but I'd like to give priority to installations. Voyeurs are most welcome to watch and learn! Would somebody from WPILA please post this information on some appropriate WPI newsgroups, bulletin boards, and the like? I'd like to give priority to WPI students and allow "outsiders" if we have enough space. Remember, we have another install fest in February which is open to everybody. WLUG / WPILA Linux Install Fest Date: Thursday, Oct. 24, 2002 Time: 6:30 - 9:30 PM E-mail: andystewart(a)attbi.com Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Duel HD
by bryon3245＠netzero.com Sept. 28, 2002

Sept. 28, 2002

I have a compaq EN pII350, I had one 40gb Maxtor hard drive installed and suse was running fine then I added a second 40gb Western Digital hard drive. Both of them run at 7500rpm. There are a couple of things that seam out of wack. Firest when i install only the WD as the master the computer only gives me the bios screne and nothing else. But when I have the SD set as slave adn the Maxtor as teh master it seams to detec both drives. then i go through the whold Suse install. It dects both HD drives and therwe sizes properly. After it installs and configures everyting it starts the system is fine. The problem arizes the first tiem you stry to restart the system. All it does is go through the BIOS and nest it trys to start the system but all it displays is "li". Please help I have trited many diffrent things to get it to work and am runnig out of ideas. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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Duel HD
by bryon3245＠netzero.com Sept. 28, 2002

Sept. 28, 2002

I have a compaq EN pII350, I had one 40gb Maxtor hard drive installed and suse was running fine then I added a second 40gb Western Digital hard drive. Both of them run at 7500rpm. There are a couple of things that seam out of wack. Firest when i install only the WD as the master the computer only gives me the bios screne and nothing else. But when I have the SD set as slave adn the Maxtor as teh master it seams to detec both drives. then i go through the whold Suse install. It dects both HD drives and therwe sizes properly. After it installs and configures everyting it starts the system is fine. The problem arizes the first tiem you stry to restart the system. All it does is go through the BIOS and nest it trys to start the system but all it displays is "li". Please help I have trited many diffrent things to get it to work and am runnig out of ideas. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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Duel HD
by bryon3245＠netzero.com Sept. 27, 2002

Sept. 27, 2002

I have a compaq EN pII350, I had one 40gb Maxtor hard drive installed and suse was running fine then I added a second 40gb Western Digital hard drive. Both of them run at 7500rpm. There are a couple of things that seam out of wack. Firest when i install only the WD as the master the computer only gives me the bios screne and nothing else. But when I have the SD set as slave adn the Maxtor as teh master it seams to detec both drives. then i go through the whold Suse install. It dects both HD drives and therwe sizes properly. After it installs and configures everyting it starts the system is fine. The problem arizes the first tiem you stry to restart the system. All it does is go through the BIOS and nest it trys to start the system but all it displays is "li". Please help I have trited many diffrent things to get it to work and am runnig out of ideas. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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OpenSSL!
by Aramico Sept. 27, 2002

Sept. 27, 2002

Can i get my latest version of openssl and install it to my remote server without loosing any connection to my server ? Ups, what have I done ? I 'v lost my connection to my remote server cause i have removed openssl on it :( Now, i can not connect to my remote server, it means i have to spend so much money to the technical service :( Can you all please give me any suggestion in order of this case not happens again.. ? Thanks all... Bye there and have a nice day u all........

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I need my Ipchains run!
by Aramico Sept. 27, 2002

Sept. 27, 2002

Hi all, ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel Thats the warning when I was trying to run ipchains -nL Can somebody please help me to inform what should i do ? I just want my ipchains -nL runs well. Thanks.

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RE: [Wlug] Oct 24, 2002: Install Fest !
by Haines, Charles Allen Sept. 27, 2002

Sept. 27, 2002

I can install gentoo or slackware. Gentoo has i586 and i686 binaries now so a base install can be done with no network. ----------------------------------------- Chuck Haines GDC Systems Administrator Infinity Complex Developer WPILA Lab Manager ----------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex ICQ: 3707881 Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 Cell: (410) 610-6343. ----------------------------------------- "Geek by nature, Linux by choice." -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 9:18 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] Oct 24, 2002: Install Fest ! HI Everybody, I have reserved the HIggins Labs discovery classroom (HL218?) for our upcoming install fest! This is scheduled for Thursday, Oct. 24, which is the night which was scheduled for our next WLUG meeting. I thought that the first week of B term would work out well for the WPI undergraduates. In place of the meeting, we'll have the install fest from 6:30 - 9:30 PM (yes, the time is earlier for this occasion). I will update the website shortly. If you know people who are interested in having us help them with a Linux installation, please ask them to send me an e-mail so I can keep track. We can probably accomodate folks who want us to configure something but I'd like to give priority to installations. Voyeurs are most welcome to watch and learn! Would somebody from WPILA please post this information on some appropriate WPI newsgroups, bulletin boards, and the like? I'd like to give priority to WPI students and allow "outsiders" if we have enough space. Remember, we have another install fest in February which is open to everybody. WLUG / WPILA Linux Install Fest Date: Thursday, Oct. 24, 2002 Time: 6:30 - 9:30 PM E-mail: andystewart(a)attbi.com Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Procmail setup
by Jim Lund Sept. 26, 2002

Sept. 26, 2002

Hi, I'm trying to configure SpamAssassin to run on my RH7.0 server. Procmail was installed with the inital setup. I've added the following line to my .forward file: "|IFS=' ' && exec /etc/smrsh/procmail -f- || exit 75 #test" I've also tried: "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #test" The user I'm trying this out on is "test". There is a .procmailrc file in /home/test/ just like what's described in the SpamAssassin INSTALL file. I've added a sym link for procmail in /etc/smrsh to /usr/bin/procmail. My sendmail.mc file has the following line: FEATURE(`smrsh',`/usr/sbin/smrsh')dnl When I send mail to test, it bounces back with this error: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|IFS=' ' && exec /etc/smrsh/procmail -f- || exit 75 #test" (reason: 550 Unsafe for mailing to programs) (expanded from: <test(a)fiero.net>) I've scoured the net for info on setting this up properly and have tried everything that's been suggested. I'm at a loss what else is causing this problem. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks! jim

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star office fonts
by Bill Mills-Curran Sept. 26, 2002

Sept. 26, 2002

When I upgraded to RedHat 7.2, Star Office seemed to lose most of its fonts. (I can't remember if I installed the new Star Office from the distro, but I think I did.) I've skimmed some web documents on adding fonts, and they seem fairly complex and I don't want to spend that much time on this. Does anyone know an easy way of getting decent fonts back? TIA, Bill

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ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel
by Aramico Sept. 26, 2002

Sept. 26, 2002

Hi all, how r ya' doin today... So sorry that I need your help..... Actually, i've got a problem with my ipchains. My remote server said this message when I executed ipchains -nL : ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel what should I do to solve this problem, i need my ipchains firewall works. thanks for the attention

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ipchains - ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel!
by Aramico Sept. 26, 2002

Sept. 26, 2002

Hi all, how r ya' doin today... So sorry that I need your help..... Actually, i've got a problem with my ipchains. My remote server said this message when I executed ipchains -nL : ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel what should I do to solve this problem, i need my ipchains firewall works. thanks for the attention.

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MTA for laptop?
by Chuck Homic Sept. 25, 2002

Sept. 25, 2002

Hey, guys. Got a flame war question for y'all, I guess. What's a good (or the best?) MTA to have on my laptop. Here's what I'd like to be able to do: - Queue outgoing mail while offline, send while online (automatically, if possible... like, "Hey there's a network connection! I'll send all my queued mail!") - Automatically figure out the right way to send stuff based on the current network config. (If I'm at my office, it should use my local office SMTP server... at home, my cable provider.) - Bonus points if it attempts to deliver directly to hosts that will accept it, before falling back to my provider's SMTP. - Extra bonus points if it remembers what hosts won't accept mail directly from me and uses my provider's SMTP for those messages by default. I probably have other demands, but that's all I can think of for now. Maybe like if I'm on a dial up link, it would send small mail first? Stuff like that. Any ideas? -Chuck

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Charter Pipeline Networking
by zimmguy＠netscape.net Sept. 23, 2002

Sept. 23, 2002

I was wondering what I am doing wrong? I have 2 PC's one with Win98 and one with WinME (I know they both suck... but beyond that). When Charter came they installed their software and modem to only one PC, (The other hadn't arrived yet). Now I am trying to network the two together, I have a HUB, and eithernet cards, and cables, is there some other piece of hardware I am missing? Or do I need some software support. In my area for charter to do anything it's 75 bucks a half hour to come out... all they left me with was a modem, and one small cord? Do I need software, or maybe just some configuration advice? Help please. __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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Practical replacements for Project.
by Keller, Tim Sept. 23, 2002

Sept. 23, 2002

I recently purchased the codeweavers office suite and I'm really happy with it. Stat office did everything I needed except for two apps, Outlook and Project. Outlook works perfectly under it (as you can see) but I haven't found a suitable replacement for project. Does anybody have any suitable work arounds or solutions to getting it to work with project. (I've attempted an install but get stone walled with errors and have logged a ticket) Thanks, Tim.

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usb question
by Wes Allen Sept. 23, 2002

Sept. 23, 2002

Hi all. MY usb ports used to work under linux in my HP notebook, it would hot-plug and everything. Now, it detects the devices I plug in, tries to register them, and then they disappear. I can acutally watch this with usb view. Any ideas what might be causing this? Wes

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Slight O/T: Preferred Registrar?
by Michael Kingsbury Sept. 21, 2002

Sept. 21, 2002

Who's the preferred name registrar now a days? -mike

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RE: [Wlug] S3 Trio Linux Driver
by Haines, Charles Allen Sept. 20, 2002

Sept. 20, 2002

Well, when i run xf86config, and select the card it tells me that it is unsupported. As for the X framebuffer, that sounds interesting, however I have no clue even how to start doing that. ----------------------------------------- Chuck Haines GDC Systems Administrator Infinity Complex Developer WPILA Lab Manager ----------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex ICQ: 3707881 Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 Cell: (410) 610-6343. ----------------------------------------- "Geek by nature, Linux by choice." -----Original Message----- From: Brian J.Conway [mailto:bconway@alum.wpi.edu] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 7:33 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] S3 Trio Linux Driver > Anyone know where I can find a linux driver for a S2 Trio32/64/64V+ > 86c764/765 for XFree4. I've searched all over and can't find > anything. Its not supported in Xfree4, but aparentally was supports > in 3.3.6. It is my understanding that the S3 and S3V were supported as of XFree86 4.2.0. I don't have any of those cards in use except in machines that are console-only, so I haven't tried it. If all else fails, you can always use the framebuffer X server with 4.x. Brian J. Conway bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu "Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves." - Albert Einstein _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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FS: Webramp 200i with 2nd modem
by RB Sept. 20, 2002

Sept. 20, 2002

Cleaning house again... I've got a Webramp 200i with an internal modem and a second BOCA 56k modem (modems can be independently operated or bonded together if your ISP allows it) that I used before I got cable internet. Was working when it was taken out of service. Allows modem sharing with its internal 4 port hub. No docs or CD with it but easily found on the Web at: http://www.rampnet.com/rampnet/support/200i/index.html eBay is getting about $60 for them now. WLUG special!... First email committment for $30 and payment and pick up at my home in Worcester gets it. PayPal is welcomed, too. -- Rob PS - I also have two Webramp 700s in original boxes that I will also be selling. If anyone is interested in them, please make an offer. These units are from another source and were said to be working when I got them. I have not verified this though. I believe they have also VPN capability. http://www.rampnet.com/rampnet/support/700s/index.html -= rb(a)millbury.net =-

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RE: [Wlug] GPL Videos ...
by Marc Hughes Sept. 20, 2002

Sept. 20, 2002

Some people learn things in different ways. If reading HOWTOS was the best way to do something, why do we have WLUG meetings? I wouldn't see these as being comprehensive overviews of whatever we're trying to teach, but more like a WLUG presentation where we show the beginnings of one "cool" thing. I think this would be great for people who have heard of linux, but never tried it out before... The real newbies, the people who don't want to wade through pages and pages of documentation just to get an idea of what they need to do. Take the first video that was suggested, "What is linux and why it's good" I think a 15 minute video can show linux off more than reading about it for hours. Another person had suggested advocacy style videos, I would assume this would be "built in" to any video we made. If we make one on how to set up a small business server (mail, file sharing, dhcp, dns), then we would also mention why it's better than other solutions. Hell, maybe that video could even be used by employees to help sell management (who doesn't want to read through *any* technical documentation) on the linux idea. And yes, this is a lot of work. I wouldn't expect us to do more than one video a month. Lets take 60 for n ... 15 minute video equals 15 man-hours of work. 5 people working on it means they'll have to spend a full work day a month (I'm assuming video production is like programming where you don't scale linearly by throwing more people at it). Besides, if we do one or two, and the work to usefulness ratio is too low, we quit. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: doug waud [mailto:douglas.waud@umassmed.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:05 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] GPL Videos ... Hi I've been listening to this thread and perhaps it is just generational disconnect but I cannot visualize what you could do with video that you could not do better with text/html/jpegs etc. Video is good if there is something to be viewed (for example, a trip to a foreign country, a beating heart in a Physiology course, the characteristic gait of a patient with Parkinson's disease, a football play etc.) But, in my experience, what you need if you are trying to learn how to do something, is usually a cookbook (this highlights a general weakness of man pages, they tend to leave out real-life examples). Furthermore, when something is textual, you and retrace easily and chose the pace. The problem now is that, if I am right, we would be competing with howtos! :-) Another problem is that, if Jeff's grandmother is like my wife (probably both about the same age), there is no way she is going to either watch a video or read a document on anything technical (This is a corollary of the advice to never give your wife a present which plugs in). So I'd like to ask those video enthusiasts out there to give a specific example of what a five/fifteen minute video might actually contain. doug PS Another hurdle I anticipate is that it usually takes n minutes to make 1 minute of good video where n is a large number :-( _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] GPL Videos ...
by Haines, Charles Allen Sept. 20, 2002

Sept. 20, 2002

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S3 Trio Linux Driver
by Haines, Charles Allen Sept. 20, 2002

Sept. 20, 2002

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Anyone know where I can find a linux driver for a S2 Trio32/64/64V+ 86c764/765 for XFree4. I've searched all over and can't find anything. Its not supported in Xfree4, but aparentally was supports in 3.3.6. Thanks, - ----------------------------------------- Chuck Haines GDC Systems Administrator Infinity Complex Developer WPILA Lab Manager - ----------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex ICQ: 3707881 Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 Cell: (410) 610-6343. - ----------------------------------------- "Geek by nature, Linux by choice." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBPYqsFTUIT3qjYbBbEQKlZwCgrRxKZYaHA+IzL3hzxs2p7BKy+s8AnA2P qn4q/LkLVsSS7GzQ+oKo4dMt =BzlF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RE: [Wlug] GPL Videos ...
by Keller, Tim Sept. 19, 2002

Sept. 19, 2002

I think it's a great idea and I'd be willing to help in whatever way possible. I'm pretty sure if I asked nicely I'd be able to use Stratus's video equipment. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Marc Hughes [mailto:HughesM@tomsnyder.com] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:39 AM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] GPL Videos ... Last night after going to the B several of us ended up in the parking lot chatting about a variety of things including classic video game emulation, microsoft bashing, and creating a WLUG series of videos. Last night, it seemed like a great idea to make some kind of linux based show and distribute those videos for free (over the internet, possible on VCD as well). There were several ideas, including a social commentary (ala "geeks in space" http://www.thesync.com/geeks/) a tech-help show answering emails (http://www.techtv.com/callforhelp/) and instructional videos (just think of that comercial for the windows videos... "Just like a VCR, pop the cd into the computer, hit play, and learn"). Personally, I like the last idea best since it really can provide value for the community (as opposed to providing entertainment). We had also thought that a shorter 15-minute style video would be a great way to start. Personally, I'm in favor of "What is linux, and why is it good for you". So I guess the questions are, do people think this is still a good idea (as opposed to an idea made after consuming too much beer). Would people be willing to help? What resources can people donate to a project like this? -Marc This might be usefull: Cinelerra (New version of Broadcast 2000): http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra_081202.php3 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Haiku for computers
by doug waud Sept. 19, 2002

Sept. 19, 2002

Hi all Thought you might enjoy the following sent to my wife: (Yes technically it is not Linux but it does make you appreciate it!) Haiku For Computers An e-mail currently circulating offers Haiku in place of the impersonal and unhelpful Microsoft error messages. Haiku poetry has strict construction rules. Each poem has only 17 syllables:5 in the first line, 7 in the second line and 5 in the third line. Your file was so big. It might be very useful, But now it is gone. The Web site you seek Cannot be located, but Countless more exist. Chaos reigns within. Reflect, repent, and reboot. Order shall return. Program aborting: Close all that you have worked on. You ask far too much. Windows NT crashed. I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams. Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. First snow, then silence. This thousand-dollar screen dies So beautifully. With searching comes loss And the presence of absence: "My Novel" not found. The Tao that is seen Is not the true Tao - until You bring fresh toner. Stay the patient course. Of little worth is your ire. The network is down. A crash reduces Your expensive computer To a simple stone. Three things are certain: Death, taxes and lost data. Guess which has occurred. You step in the stream, But the water has moved on. This page is not here. Out of memory. We wish to hold the whole sky, But we never will. Having been erased, The document you're seeking Must now be retyped. Serious error. All shortcuts have disappeared. Screen. Mind. Both are blank. doug

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GPL Videos ...
by Marc Hughes Sept. 19, 2002

Sept. 19, 2002

Last night after going to the B several of us ended up in the parking lot chatting about a variety of things including classic video game emulation, microsoft bashing, and creating a WLUG series of videos. Last night, it seemed like a great idea to make some kind of linux based show and distribute those videos for free (over the internet, possible on VCD as well). There were several ideas, including a social commentary (ala "geeks in space" http://www.thesync.com/geeks/) a tech-help show answering emails (http://www.techtv.com/callforhelp/) and instructional videos (just think of that comercial for the windows videos... "Just like a VCR, pop the cd into the computer, hit play, and learn"). Personally, I like the last idea best since it really can provide value for the community (as opposed to providing entertainment). We had also thought that a shorter 15-minute style video would be a great way to start. Personally, I'm in favor of "What is linux, and why is it good for you". So I guess the questions are, do people think this is still a good idea (as opposed to an idea made after consuming too much beer). Would people be willing to help? What resources can people donate to a project like this? -Marc This might be usefull: Cinelerra (New version of Broadcast 2000): http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra_081202.php3

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RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Meeting Wed 18-sept-2002 7:00 PM
by Keller, Tim Sept. 18, 2002

Sept. 18, 2002

I thought this was supposed to be a one night install fest... I would figure we'd need a weekend for a gentoo install ;-) j/k. I can definity do some gentoo CDs, I was thinking RH7.3 and possibly another distribution (like suse) let me know! Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Haines, Charles Allen [mailto:chaines@postoffice.academic.wpi.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 11:15 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Meeting Wed 18-sept-2002 7:00 PM Gentoo, Gentoo, Gentoo, that's all I got to say. BTW, Andy were you refering to me or another Chuck? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- | Chuck Haines | AIM: CyberGrex | | GDC Systems Administrator | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | | Infinity Complex Developer | ICQ: 3707881 | | WPILA Lab Manager | Cell: (410) 610-6343 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- "Geek by nature, Linux by choice." -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:04 AM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Meeting Wed 18-sept-2002 7:00 PM Andy, Let me know what you'd like for CD's for the install-fest and the quantity and I'll get them produced. Also, I can get together a wlug-goodies cd with all the latest kernel/patches/etc. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 20:22 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] REMINDER: Meeting Wed 18-sept-2002 7:00 PM HI Everybody, My apologies for not sending this out sooner, but our meeting for Wednesday evening is going to take place at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus like usual. We won't be having the install fest since I didn't get off my butt and make the arrangements (sorry!). I hope to do that tomorrow for a potential install fest in 1-2 weeks. I'll say more about that on Wed evening (that'll put the pressure on me to get this done!). I'll bring my laptop and hope that the projector is available (Chuck, can you assist?). I had thought of doing a demo of the VideoLan client/server. Doug, would you like to volunteer to bring your laptop? We'll need a hub and some cables to build a network. I'll be sure to have the necesary tarballs to make this work, or you can download them yourself if you wish. I'll bring a DVD or two and we can try it out. I had thought of doing this "live" like we did one other time. In case Doug can't make the meeting, having another laptop or two present might be interesting. Although the VideoLan client is interesting, I think the ability to stream the video over the net is pretty neat. Take a look at this website for some background info. http://www.videolan.org/ See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Meeting Wed 18-sept-2002 7:00 PM
by Haines, Charles Allen Sept. 18, 2002

Sept. 18, 2002

Gentoo, Gentoo, Gentoo, that's all I got to say. BTW, Andy were you refering to me or another Chuck? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- | Chuck Haines | AIM: CyberGrex | | GDC Systems Administrator | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | | Infinity Complex Developer | ICQ: 3707881 | | WPILA Lab Manager | Cell: (410) 610-6343 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- "Geek by nature, Linux by choice." -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:04 AM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Meeting Wed 18-sept-2002 7:00 PM Andy, Let me know what you'd like for CD's for the install-fest and the quantity and I'll get them produced. Also, I can get together a wlug-goodies cd with all the latest kernel/patches/etc. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 20:22 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] REMINDER: Meeting Wed 18-sept-2002 7:00 PM HI Everybody, My apologies for not sending this out sooner, but our meeting for Wednesday evening is going to take place at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus like usual. We won't be having the install fest since I didn't get off my butt and make the arrangements (sorry!). I hope to do that tomorrow for a potential install fest in 1-2 weeks. I'll say more about that on Wed evening (that'll put the pressure on me to get this done!). I'll bring my laptop and hope that the projector is available (Chuck, can you assist?). I had thought of doing a demo of the VideoLan client/server. Doug, would you like to volunteer to bring your laptop? We'll need a hub and some cables to build a network. I'll be sure to have the necesary tarballs to make this work, or you can download them yourself if you wish. I'll bring a DVD or two and we can try it out. I had thought of doing this "live" like we did one other time. In case Doug can't make the meeting, having another laptop or two present might be interesting. Although the VideoLan client is interesting, I think the ability to stream the video over the net is pretty neat. Take a look at this website for some background info. http://www.videolan.org/ See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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REMINDER: Meeting Wed 18-sept-2002 7:00 PM
by Andy Stewart Sept. 18, 2002

Sept. 18, 2002

HI Everybody, My apologies for not sending this out sooner, but our meeting for Wednesday evening is going to take place at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus like usual. We won't be having the install fest since I didn't get off my butt and make the arrangements (sorry!). I hope to do that tomorrow for a potential install fest in 1-2 weeks. I'll say more about that on Wed evening (that'll put the pressure on me to get this done!). I'll bring my laptop and hope that the projector is available (Chuck, can you assist?). I had thought of doing a demo of the VideoLan client/server. Doug, would you like to volunteer to bring your laptop? We'll need a hub and some cables to build a network. I'll be sure to have the necesary tarballs to make this work, or you can download them yourself if you wish. I'll bring a DVD or two and we can try it out. I had thought of doing this "live" like we did one other time. In case Doug can't make the meeting, having another laptop or two present might be interesting. Although the VideoLan client is interesting, I think the ability to stream the video over the net is pretty neat. Take a look at this website for some background info. http://www.videolan.org/ See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Meeting Wed 18-sept-2002 7:00 PM
by Keller, Tim Sept. 18, 2002

Sept. 18, 2002

Andy, Let me know what you'd like for CD's for the install-fest and the quantity and I'll get them produced. Also, I can get together a wlug-goodies cd with all the latest kernel/patches/etc. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 20:22 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] REMINDER: Meeting Wed 18-sept-2002 7:00 PM HI Everybody, My apologies for not sending this out sooner, but our meeting for Wednesday evening is going to take place at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus like usual. We won't be having the install fest since I didn't get off my butt and make the arrangements (sorry!). I hope to do that tomorrow for a potential install fest in 1-2 weeks. I'll say more about that on Wed evening (that'll put the pressure on me to get this done!). I'll bring my laptop and hope that the projector is available (Chuck, can you assist?). I had thought of doing a demo of the VideoLan client/server. Doug, would you like to volunteer to bring your laptop? We'll need a hub and some cables to build a network. I'll be sure to have the necesary tarballs to make this work, or you can download them yourself if you wish. I'll bring a DVD or two and we can try it out. I had thought of doing this "live" like we did one other time. In case Doug can't make the meeting, having another laptop or two present might be interesting. Although the VideoLan client is interesting, I think the ability to stream the video over the net is pretty neat. Take a look at this website for some background info. http://www.videolan.org/ See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Meeting
by Haines, Charles Allen Sept. 17, 2002

Sept. 17, 2002

Is tomorrow's meeting still on? If so where is it and is it still at 7? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- | Chuck Haines | AIM: CyberGrex | | GDC Systems Administrator | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | | Infinity Complex Developer | ICQ: 3707881 | | WPILA Lab Manager | Cell: (410) 610-6343 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- "Geek by nature, Linux by choice."

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Sept 18 meeting (tomorrow!)
by doug waud Sept. 17, 2002

Sept. 17, 2002

Hi all, Andy especially :-) Where do we stand re tomorrow's meeting. There was talk of an installfest but I have not noticed any further messages in that regard. Anybody know what's up? I don't want to go into plug-pulling training if there'll be no "event" where I can display my talents! :-) doug

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RE: [Wlug] What is the current WPILA officer lineup?
by Haines, Charles Allen Sept. 17, 2002

Sept. 17, 2002

Current WPILA officer list is up on the website that I finally got working. http://wpila.org Right now www.wpila.org does not work. I'm working on this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- | Chuck Haines | AIM: CyberGrex | | GDC Systems Administrator | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | | Infinity Complex Developer | ICQ: 3707881 | | WPILA Lab Manager | Cell: (410) 610-6343 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- "Geek by nature, Linux by choice." -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 8:54 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] What is the current WPILA officer lineup? -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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What is the current WPILA officer lineup?
by Andy Stewart Sept. 17, 2002

Sept. 17, 2002

-- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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new question
by Wesley Allen Sept. 16, 2002

Sept. 16, 2002

Hi all, I just recompiled my kernel to add in acpi support for my laptop. When acpid tries to start, it tells me that it can't find /proc/acpi/event I know I've got it installed, how do I set up those files? I know better then to go mucking around in /proc w/o help! BTW, if there is anyone willing to help me convert my iPAQ to linux, I'll get the files together and be happy to meet you someone. LaLa Java on Route 9 in Shrewsbury is a great place for stuff like this (and they have some great tee-shirts). If anyone can help me with both these things, I'd greatly appreciate it. Wes --

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My brush with greatness, 20 year anniversary
by Keith Wright Sept. 15, 2002

Sept. 15, 2002

I've long had vague memories that I was present at the creation of the emoticon, but did not remember the details and had no proof---until now. Slashdot has a story about the first smiley, which links to a site that has a copy of a bulletin board thread from 1982. My contribution was the suggestion that the character should be chosen to look like something. It doesn't appear in the quoted part of the thread, but I remember advocating that the parenthesis should appear in balanced pairs, to form "joke brackets" which mark the beginning and end of the joke. This suggestion never caught on, which is a bit surprising because Scott Fahlman is a Lisp guy. (-: I would throw a big party to celebrate the 20'th anniversary of the smiley, but I hate the damn things :-) -- Keith ----------------- From: http://research.microsoft.com/~mbj/Smiley/Smiley.html I think this is the best research ever done at MS. ---------------- <discussion of strange physics Gedanken experiments> = 16-Sep-82 12:09 Neil Swartz at CMU-750R Pigeon type question This question does not involve pigeons, but is similar: There is a lit candle in an elevator mounted on a bracket attached to the middle of one wall (say, 2" from the wall). A drop of mercury is on the floor. The cable snaps and the elevator falls. What happens to the candle and the mercury? = 16-Sep-82 17:21 Howard Gayle at CMU-780G WARNING! Because of a recent physics experiment, the leftmost elevator has been contaminated with mercury. There is also some slight fire damage. Decontamination should be complete by 08:00 Friday. = 16-Sep-82 21:34 Rudy Nedved at CMU-10A Re: WARNING!! The previous bboard message about mercury is related to the comment by Neil Swartz about Physics experiments. It is not an actual problem. Last year parts of Doherty Hall were closed off because of spilled mercury. My high school closed down a lab because of a dropped bottle of mercury. My apology for spoiling the joke but people were upset and yelling fire in a crowded theatre is bad news....so are jokes on day old comments. = 17-Sep-82 10:58 Neil Swartz at CMU-750R Elevator posts Apparently there has been some confusion about elevators and such. After talking to Rudy, I have discovered that there is no mercury spill in any of the Wean hall elevators. Many people seem to have taken the notice about the physics department seriously. Maybe we should adopt a convention of putting a star (*) in the subject field of any notice which is to be taken as a joke. = 17-Sep-82 13:04 Scott Fahlman at CMU-10A Elevators (*) Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the elevator... Unfortunately, the center elevator now contains what seems to be the remains of 40,000 two-pound pigeons in an advanced state of decomposition and the right elevator contains a bear of indeterminate color. The left elevator appears to be safe, but when you stand in it for too long, your voice gets squeaky and you start running into the walls, causing the elevator to rise. Despite the * in the header of this message, this is not a joke and should be taken quite literallly. Do not panic -- taking the stairs is good for you. = 17-Sep-82 14:59 Joseph Ginder at CMU-10A (*%) I believe that the joke character should be % rather than *. = 17-Sep-82 15:15 Anthony Stentz at CMU-780G (*%) How about using * for good jokes and % for bad jokes? We could even use *% for jokes that are so bad, they're funny. = 17-Sep-82 17:40 Keith Wright at CMU-10A *%&#$ Jokes! No, no, no! Surely everyone will agree that "&" is the funniest character on the keyboard. It looks funny (like a jolly fat man in convulsions of laughter). It sounds funny (say it loud and fast three times). I just know if I could get my nose into the vacuum of the CRT it would even smell funny! = 17-Sep-82 17:42 Leonard Hamey at CMU-10A {#} (previously *) A detailed (i.e. > 1 minute) study of the aesthetic and pictographic effects of the characters available in the ASCII set has led to the following suggestion: I think that the joke character should be the sequence {#} because it looks like two lips with teeth showing between them. This is the expected result if someone actually laughs their head off. An obvious abbreviation of this sequence would be the hash character itself (which can also be read as the sharp character and suggests a quality which may be lacking in those too obtuse to appreciate the joke.) = 18-Sep-82 20:40 Guy Steele at CMU-10A ! Joke markers again I hope everyone realized that my previous remark about non-use of joke markers was a joke, and was flagged as such by the absence of a marker. This message is not a joke, as indicated by the exclamation point. = 19-Sep-82 11:44 Scott E Fahlman :-) From: Scott E Fahlman <Fahlman at Cmu-20c> I propose that the following character sequence for joke markers: :-) Read it sideways. Actually, it is probably more economical to mark things that are NOT jokes, given current trends. For this, use :-( = 20-Sep-82 16:23 Dave Touretzky at CMU-10A (-: bboard software change As of October 1st, the General bboard will be renamed the Jokes bboard. Please update your SWITCH.INI file. In the event of a serious notice, we will post it under the name "Sharon Burks". When the bboard contains messages whose total bogosity score exceeds 5000 microLenats, the file will be zeroed so novice bboard players can have a chance to score. =

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Mozilla 1.1 icon
by Bill Mills-Curran Sept. 13, 2002

Sept. 13, 2002

I installed mozilla 1.1, and I no longer have the nice dinosaur icon when I iconify it in fvwm2. Is there a simple way to get that back? Thanks, Bill

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Converting an iPAQ
by Wesley Allen Sept. 13, 2002

Sept. 13, 2002

For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and get a Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time soon. So, I've got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, with my linux laptop and it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, even though I've got some software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a Bible Reader with the Greek Text and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking that it's time to take the plunge and get Linux and Qtopia on my 3835. Three Questions, 1. Has anyone on the list done this, especially with this model? 2. Has anyone who has done this used any of theKompany's embedded apps? 3. Is there anyone willing to help me do this face to face? I could do this on my own, but the idea of potentially owning a $599 paperweight dims my enthusiasm when I think of going it alone. (I'll buy the coffee) I've got a serial adapter, so that's not a problem. So, what do you say, anyone out there willing to teach me something new? Wes --

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linux arm
by brad Sept. 13, 2002

Sept. 13, 2002

While we're on the topic, some of you guys might be interested in knowing that there is a Linux for Ipaq Developers meeting in cambridge in early October. It's not often that these things come around. For more info. http://handhelds.org/events/devweekend.html -brad

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Free to a good home
by Scott Venier Sept. 10, 2002

Sept. 10, 2002

I've got a 20" Sun branded Trinitron monitor (GDM-20D10) that is yours if you just come fetch it from me in Worcester. Why is it free? Because the cable that's pigtailed on is busted and it doesn't do red very well anymore. The connector on the end of the cable is at 13W3. It should be fixable by just opening the thing up and replacing the cable. Any takers? Scott

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RE: [Wlug] Stat Gathering
by Marc Hughes Sept. 9, 2002

Sept. 9, 2002

I found a nifty utility called HotSaNIC that does exactly what I was looking for. http://www.bernisys.prima.de/linux/HotSaNIC/ Thanks anyways, -Marc -----Original Message----- From: stoffel(a)lucent.com [mailto:stoffel@lucent.com] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:37 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Cc: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Stat Gathering Marc> I'd like to collect some stats on a few servers over time. Things Marc> like bandwidth usage, load averages, used/free memory, disk I/O. Marc> Does anyone have any favorite tools to do this easily. Also... Marc> Anything that makes pretty graphs to show management would be Marc> bonus points. You want to use either MRTG (www.mrtg.org) or Cricket (http://cricket.sourceforge.net/) which is based on top of the RRDtool from MRTG. Very nice stuff. John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-399-0479 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Stat Gathering
by Marc Hughes Sept. 9, 2002

Sept. 9, 2002

Hey Guys, I'd like to collect some stats on a few servers over time. Things like bandwidth usage, load averages, used/free memory, disk I/O. Does anyone have any favorite tools to do this easily. Also... Anything that makes pretty graphs to show management would be bonus points. Thanks, -Marc

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overlay/watermark???
by Bill Mills-Curran Sept. 5, 2002

Sept. 5, 2002

I'm generating a document with good old latex, and I'd like to be able to add a figure as the background to each page, something like a watermark, or the background capability of html. I'd be happy to use a post-processing step to do this. I've been looking at the ps utilities, but there's nothing that looks like it will work. Any ideas? TIA, Bill

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WLUG's membership in BUG
by Andy Stewart Sept. 5, 2002

Sept. 5, 2002

Hi everybody, Last year around this time, an organization was formed called the Boston User Groups (http://www.bostonusergroups.com) WLUG was invited to participate. As a group, we decided to pay our $50/year membership fee to participate for the first year. Some of you might remember this meeting, where the general consensus was "OK, let's try it for a year and see how it goes". Our yearly membership dues are being requested by BUG. I had some questions about whether or not WLUG should continue its participation in BUG. I had a discussion with the WLUG members who attended the BBQ. Several of those people thought that the discussion should take place among the entire WLUG membership. The timing of BUG events is such that I'd like to settle this issue before our next WLUG meeting (ideally within the next week). Take a look at the BUG webpage as you consider my comments and those of other WLUG members. Please take note of the other groups who are current BUG members. There are 3 Linux groups, a Palm group, a Mac group, and some others, not to mention the wide variety of Microsoft related user groups. Given that Microsoft is a documented monopoly (a court said that, not just me), this distribution of member groups should not be a surprise to anybody. Some of the commentary below assumes familiarity with the contents of the BUG website. My initial question (if I recall correctly) was to wonder about what tangible benefit WLUG received for its $50 expenditure. a) BUG has a link to the WLUG website on its website b) WLUG had a table at last year's MegaMeeting and gave out literature advertising the group, its meetings, etc. c) I met some leaders of other regional user groups while eating free pizza, drinking free soda, and touring the US DataCenters facility in Marlboro, MA. d) I know that we got at least one new WLUG member from the MegaMeeting. Perhaps there were others, or folks who shortly thereafter joined the mailing list, but I have no way to know for sure. The BUG website also has a calendar of group activities onto which WLUG's activities were never placed. The calendar is designed for groups who meet, say, every 2nd Thursday of the month. WLUG's schedule is not as regular as that, and hence our information was not put onto the calendar after two requests by me. Rick Zach is the current BUG president. He recently sent an e-mail to the user group leaders (attached) wherein he describes some of the benefits of BUG membership. I also have personally spoken to Rick to make sure my information about BUG is correct so that I can present it fairly to the WLUG membership. My question to WLUG is: Do we as a group wish to continue our participation in BUG for $50/year ? Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Importing email from Eudora or Outlook...
by Stephen C. Daukas Sept. 4, 2002

Sept. 4, 2002

I didn't see this covered in any of the posts I could read in the Mozill groups, nor the FAQs, so here goes... I am trying to import email into Mozilla 1.0. I tried importing from Eudora and got the account settings OK, but did not get the entire address book (notably distribution lists) and couldn't get all the email. I received no error for the address book, but did get an error saying "cannot create proxy object for destination mailboxes" about half way throuhg the import, at which point all the folder that were created were moved to Trash. I decided to try Outlook just in case the Eudora code was messed up, I first imported from Eudora into Outlook, but I got the same problem. In both cases, I get the impression that the import code can't do too much with nested information (email distribution lists and mail folder that contain other folders), but Mozilla seems to be able to get started without any trouble. Then again, there is a lot of email involved and I'm also wondering if there are some limits set somewhere in the code before it gives up... Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!! Steve

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RH7.3 Questions -round 4
by Richard Goodman Sept. 4, 2002

Sept. 4, 2002

Well, I thought everything was working, but sendmail won't receive mail. 1) Doing a status on sendmail says its running 2) dig says that named is running on that server and returns all proper looking info. 3) I had saved the WORKING access, local-host-names and virtusertable files before replacing the bad hard drive and had copied them back into /etc/mail and done a make, so I assume they're good 4) I just restarted the mail server, which logged the following: Sep 3 19:03:39 boron sendmail[2674]: alias database /etc/aliases rebuilt by root Sep 3 19:03:39 boron sendmail[2674]: /etc/aliases: 40 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 395 bytes total Sep 3 19:03:40 boron sendmail[2687]: starting daemon (8.11.6): SMTP+queueing@01:00:00 The test mailing has the following entries in the SENDING sendmail log, and NO entries in the receiving sendmail log or firewall log: Sep 3 17:12:40 bach sendmail[11154]: g83LCec11154: from=<dick(a)goodman1.net>, size=385, class=0, nrc pts=1, msgid=<4.2.0.58.20020903171330.00a3f418(a)pop.goodman1.net>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=hos t3.goodman1.net [192.168.1.3] Sep 3 17:12:41 bach sendmail[11156]: g83LCec11154: to=<r.goodman(a)11harvard.com>, ctladdr=<dick@good man1.net> (503/503), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=30385, relay=11harvard.com. [66.92.78.250], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by 11harvard.com. and the following on a retry Sep 3 18:23:52 bach sendmail[11217]: g83LCec11154: to=<r.goodman(a)11harvard.com>, ctladdr=<dick@good man1.net> (503/503), delay=01:11:12, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=210385, relay=11harvard.com. [66.92.78.250], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by 11harvard.com. I have three similar servers (the other two still RH7.0) and I have never touched the sendmail config - only the access, local-host-names and virtusertable files on any of them. Has something changed between the versions of sendmail on RH7.0 and RH7.3 or have I missed something. The lack of any message on the receiving server puzzles me. Or has something changed in named relating to mail? Dick

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spamassassin
by Charles R. Anderson Sept. 4, 2002

Sept. 4, 2002

Heh...somehow SpamAssassin flagged this as a Viagra spam :) Interesting, since it didn't mention Viagra anywhere... Stop talking dirty Keith! It might be time to get a new ISP, too, since yours is blackholed in an RBL.... ----- Forwarded message from Keith Wright <kwright(a)gis.net> ----- Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: [Wlug] WLUG's membership in BUG X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=5.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,X_AUTH_WARNING,DOUBLE_CAPSWORD,FOR_FREE,VIAGRA, PORN_14,ASCII_FORM_ENTRY,RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM version=2.31 X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Level: ***** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.31 (devel $Id: SpamAssassin.pm,v 1.94.2.2 2002/06/20 17:20:29 hughescr Exp $) X-Spam-Report: 5.5 hits, 5 required; * -3.4 -- Found a In-Reply-To header * -0.7 -- Found a X-Authentication-Warning header * 1.1 -- BODY: A word in all caps repeated on the line * 1.1 -- BODY: No such thing as a free lunch (1) * 4.7 -- BODY: Plugs Viagra * 0.2 -- BODY: Uses words and phrases which indicate porn (14) * 0.5 -- BODY: Contains an ASCII-formatted form * 2.0 -- RBL: Received via a relay in relays.osirusoft.com [RBL check: found 245.48.41.216.relays.osirusoft.com., type: 127.0.0.3] ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

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RE: [Wlug] Attorney asks son for advice on breaking DMCA
by Keller, Tim Sept. 3, 2002

Sept. 3, 2002

I second that instinct. I've run across a couple of CD's that my wife's sony stereo wouldn't play, but I could rip with cdparanoia and then created a "real" redbook CD that worked fine. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Homic [mailto:chuck@vvisions.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 17:14 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Attorney asks son for advice on breaking DMCA On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 05:01:47PM -0400, Brian J. Conway wrote: > Now that I have your attention (almost), my Dad recently bought one of the > so-called copy-protected audio CDs and he is unable to rip it. ... > Any ideas? My first instinct is to load up cdparanoia and see what it says. Judging from the mass media interpretation of the copy prevention scheme... ie. "Invalid data track crashes windows" part of me thinks it would just work, since at no point would you be automounting an invalid ISO filesystem. On the other hand, it might be an invalid TOC, which means you might have to send cdparanoia some options. But if the CD works in a CD player, the TOC must be valid "enough" to point to redbook data that can be ripped. -Chuck _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Attorney asks son for advice on breaking DMCA
by Brian J. Conway Sept. 3, 2002

Sept. 3, 2002

Now that I have your attention (almost), my Dad recently bought one of the so-called copy-protected audio CDs and he is unable to rip it. As he regularly uses both a Rio while running and has a Rio receiver hooked up to the downstairs stereo, that's a real pain. I haven't looked at the CD myself yet so I don't know if I can use the Sharpie-over-the-corrupt-data-track trick, but has anyone else run into this and come up with a good solution? There's been a million Slashdot stories on the problem with no real resolution that I can find. I figured there would be an answer on this side of the pond if nothing else, but a Windows workaround would work too. Any ideas? My suggestion was, of course, to return the CD and write a nasty letter to the company about selling something labeled as a Compact Disc that does not conform to the Red Book standard, but that doesn't really fix the problem. Thanks in advance. Brian J. Conway bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu "Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves." - Albert Einstein

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laser printer?
by Bill Mills-Curran Sept. 3, 2002

Sept. 3, 2002

I'm considering getting a laser printer (I'm tired of buying all those ink jet cartidges that my kids burn through), and I'm interested in recommendataions for low-cost models. (I'm running RedHat 7.2.) HP has a model (LaserJet 1000) for $250 retail. It has a USB connection that the HP web page says is for "window only". ("Non-Windows based operating systems will not be supported.") Any suggestions? TIA, Bill

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RE: [Wlug] RH7.3 Questions -round 2
by Richard Goodman Sept. 3, 2002

Sept. 3, 2002

Well, I've got the ETH1 and DHCP issues resolved (Thanks, Charles). Did not need to do anything with modules - had misinterpreted the install dialog and ifcfg-eth1 had BOOTPROTO=dhcp. eth1 should have been static with DHCP running from there. One unresolved issue - when I issue an IPChains command, the first time I get "IPchains incompatible with this kernel" and thereafter "IPChains protocol not available". The IPChains command is there, as for example "ipchains -h" works. But I haven't got masquerading or firewalling yet because of this. [Past history of this problem dialog unavailable as I'm on a dial-up laptop] Dick Richard Goodman dick(a)goodman1.net ---> Home: (508) 753-DICK trader(a)goodman1.net ---> Work: (508) 757-3452 voice/fax

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RH7.3 Questions
by Richard Goodman Sept. 3, 2002

Sept. 3, 2002

I have a RH7.0 server which has been giving me regular unrecoverable disk errors since 6-8 weeks ago. I figured today I had enough time to do something about it. I also figured that as long as I had to rebuild from scratch (after installing a new hard drive) I'd upgrade to RH7.3 -- but I have a few more problems that I figured on. The server is dual homed - eth0 (DEC 2104x 10mbps tulip driver) goes to DSL, eth1 (Realtek 100mbps) goes to internal network. Was running IP Masquerade / IPChains / Apache / sendmail / DNS server fine under RH7.0 I have the following problems: 1) During startup eth0 comes up but eth1 does not. My notes on the previous installation [year ago?] don't show that I did anything special when I installed the Realtek (was previously also DEC 2104x) but that doesn't mean I just didn't write it down. 2) dhcpd won't run, but I assume that's related to #1. Was surprised that dhcpd wasn't loaded during install, as I flagged eth1 as dhcp. 3) how do I know whether IPchains or IPtables is active, and how do I switch. Considering the time involved so far, I think I'd rather delay switching to IPTables and use my existing IPChains firewall for now. Can I still hook it in at the end of rc.local? 4) During install I did answer some firewalling questions (set to medium, custom) -- where is the results of that dialog? 5) If I can use my existing IPChains firewall, that will take care of IP Masquerade -- if not can I have some guidance as to what direction to take. 6) httpd comes up but says "cannot resolve hostname, using 127.0.0.1" - what did I forget to configure? (I haven't touched httpd.conf yet.) 7) issue and issue.net used to be set from rc.local, but no more -- where are they set? I'd like to patch that out and be a bit more anonymous. I'm definitely unconnected until most of these Q's get resolved. Thanks to any who can assist me. Dick

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Server For Sale
by JV Sept. 3, 2002

Sept. 3, 2002

Sometime around April I bought a server from Dell. The plan, at the time, was to make it into a webserver and host Wormtown.org and whoever else I could split the bandwidth/hard drive with at a hosting facility in Marlboro. However, it was also in April that I lost my job and then determined that the donations that Wormtown.org collects are not nearly enough to cover the cost of hosting. So, now that I've been unemployed since April. I'm feeling the money start to tighten up and I think it's about time to sell this server. It is a Dell PowerEdge 1650 http://www.dell.com/us/en/esg/topics/esg_pedge_rackmain_servers_1_pedge_165… It is a 1U rackmountable server. It has one PIII 1.13 chip in it It has 512M of RAM (2x256) It has one 36G drive (U160, 10K RPM) The rest of the specs are standard. I've got all the CDs including the Dell Drivers CD and the Red Hat 7.2 Discs that came with it. I've even got Rack Rails. And it does have the cool blue Dell logo that lights up on it. It's been run for about 15 hours total. I believe I paid a bit over $2100 for it. I just priced the same exact machine for $2071 (plus tax and shipping) at Dell.com. I will, of course, take the best offer I can get. I don't want to go any lower than $1500 if I can help it, though. If you're interested, or someone you know might be, contact me. Thanks John V +--------------------------------------------+ |-- "I taught you how to cyclops rock |-- (and then you go and) |-- turn around and break my heart |-- and waste my cyclops time |-- mess up my cyclops mind" |-- |-- - They Might Be Giants |-- |-- John: http://voegtlin.org/~john +--------------------------------------------+

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RE: [Wlug] WLUG's membership in BUG
by Marc Hughes Aug. 30, 2002

Aug. 30, 2002

Sounds to me like all we really got was a single new member out of last years membership. I say skip the membership. If we're itching to spend the money, throw it into an ad in a college newspaper or two. Otherwise let's hoard our cash reserves for a hostile takeover of microsoft. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:21 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] WLUG's membership in BUG Hi everybody, Last year around this time, an organization was formed called the Boston User Groups (http://www.bostonusergroups.com) WLUG was invited to participate. As a group, we decided to pay our $50/year membership fee to participate for the first year. Some of you might remember this meeting, where the general consensus was "OK, let's try it for a year and see how it goes". Our yearly membership dues are being requested by BUG. I had some questions about whether or not WLUG should continue its participation in BUG. I had a discussion with the WLUG members who attended the BBQ. Several of those people thought that the discussion should take place among the entire WLUG membership. The timing of BUG events is such that I'd like to settle this issue before our next WLUG meeting (ideally within the next week). Take a look at the BUG webpage as you consider my comments and those of other WLUG members. Please take note of the other groups who are current BUG members. There are 3 Linux groups, a Palm group, a Mac group, and some others, not to mention the wide variety of Microsoft related user groups. Given that Microsoft is a documented monopoly (a court said that, not just me), this distribution of member groups should not be a surprise to anybody. Some of the commentary below assumes familiarity with the contents of the BUG website. My initial question (if I recall correctly) was to wonder about what tangible benefit WLUG received for its $50 expenditure. a) BUG has a link to the WLUG website on its website b) WLUG had a table at last year's MegaMeeting and gave out literature advertising the group, its meetings, etc. c) I met some leaders of other regional user groups while eating free pizza, drinking free soda, and touring the US DataCenters facility in Marlboro, MA. d) I know that we got at least one new WLUG member from the MegaMeeting. Perhaps there were others, or folks who shortly thereafter joined the mailing list, but I have no way to know for sure. The BUG website also has a calendar of group activities onto which WLUG's activities were never placed. The calendar is designed for groups who meet, say, every 2nd Thursday of the month. WLUG's schedule is not as regular as that, and hence our information was not put onto the calendar after two requests by me. Rick Zach is the current BUG president. He recently sent an e-mail to the user group leaders (attached) wherein he describes some of the benefits of BUG membership. I also have personally spoken to Rick to make sure my information about BUG is correct so that I can present it fairly to the WLUG membership. My question to WLUG is: Do we as a group wish to continue our participation in BUG for $50/year ? Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Re: WLUG and BUG
by doug waud Aug. 30, 2002

Aug. 30, 2002

Hi all, Keith Wright wrote: > On the bright side, I have looked at the BUG web pages > and they do not crash my browser (Netscape Communicator 4.76 > on RedHat 7.1 with a 2.4.27 kernel.) Just to prove I am not just a pretty face, I can note that I got and installed Mozilla 1.0 and it too does not crash. > Why do all these web-wankers think > that a six-pixel high font is such a great thing that it must be > hard coded to override my preferences? I don't know the answer but I agree that the practice sucks! :-) doug (Vulture for culture) Waud

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I'm not normally in favor of cracking but....
by Wesley Allen Aug. 28, 2002

Aug. 28, 2002

Anyone catch this story at wired? http://wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,54812,00.html Apparently the RIAA site got cracked, and the crackers put up a fold with..."pirated" mp3 files. Ummmm, yes this is illegal (the cracking, not the creation of mp3 archives for personal use), but can you imagine a more deserving organization for this to happen to. Keep in mind, I also happen to be a PASTOR, and I think this is just about the funniest thing I've ever seen on the internet. Wes -- This message may be digitally signed. For my public key, e-mail me a request.

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Stupid Hardware Clock Tricks, aka: WTF?
by Theo Van Dinter Aug. 28, 2002

Aug. 28, 2002

Over this past weekend I upgraded my server from a P200/RedHat Linux 7.2 to a new Athlon 850/RedHat Linux 7.3. The Athlon was my trusty workstation for many a year. Everything's great, except for one problem: the clock goes crazy! It seems to be a once per second issue: $ perl -e '$t=time;while(1){$t2=time; warn join("\n",scalar localtime($t),scalar localtime($t2),"") if ($t2-$t>4); $t=$t2;}' Wed Aug 21 17:17:28 2002 Wed Aug 21 18:29:03 2002 Wed Aug 21 17:17:29 2002 Wed Aug 21 18:29:04 2002 Wed Aug 21 17:17:30 2002 Wed Aug 21 18:29:05 2002 I use netsaint to monitor system health, and it keeps complaining about the time jumps: Aug 21 18:28:03 eclectic netsaint: Warning: A system time change of 4296 seconds (forwards in time) has been detected. Compensating... Aug 21 17:16:31 eclectic netsaint: Warning: A system time change of 4293 seconds (backwards in time) has been detected. Compensating... Aug 21 18:29:42 eclectic netsaint: Warning: A system time change of 4296 seconds (forwards in time) has been detected. Compensating... Aug 21 17:18:10 eclectic netsaint: Warning: A system time change of 4293 seconds (backwards in time) has been detected. Compensating... Of course, random checks start failing as well since they occasionally run during the time jump, and if they're checking for time since something occured (log entry, cron run, query response time, etc) ... I've tried "hwclock --systohc" to force the hardware clock to the same time as the system, didn't help. I'm running NTP and thought maybe it was having problems, so I tried turning that off, didn't help. I went through BIOS and tweaked memory/IRQ settings -- I didn't think it would really solve anything, but the setting changes and reboot kept the behavior away for ~14-15 hours. So I'm completely stumped as to what causes this problem. Has anyone seen anything like this before? Any suggestions for things to look at? I'm at the point where I'm planning to just buy a new bit of hardware, migrate the drives and such again, and go from there. With my luck the problem would follow me of course... :( Thanks in advance. :) BTW: If anyone is wondering, I'm running SGI's XFS patched 2.4.18 kernel: 2.4.18-SGI_XFS_1.1. I'm thinking about dropping back to a 2.4.9 kernel w/ XFS support and seeing if that works any better. :( I was running 2.4.18 on the P200 for quite a while though without problem. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: I don't want to look like a weirdo. I'll just go with a muumuu. -- Homer Simpson King-Size Homer

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python regular expressions
by Brad Noyes Aug. 28, 2002

Aug. 28, 2002

Hi All, I'm starting to learn python. I was looking for a python equivalent to a perl regular expression such as $_ = "FreeBSD"; /(.*)BSD/; where $1 would get what ever is between '(...)', 'Free' in this case. Is there a way i can make use of the () regex operator in python? I can't seem to find an equivalent in python's regex module (re). Thanks, --brad

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Exchange clients for linux
by Haines, Charles Allen Aug. 28, 2002

Aug. 28, 2002

I was wondering if anyone knew of any exchange clients for linux besides the plugin for evolution. WPI is now offering a student exchange server and I am testing it for the admin's. However I currently have to use the outlook web client to view my mail (which of course doesn't look right in galeon, since M$ designed the outlook web). So any comments, flames, or suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Chuck Haines WPILA Lab Manager

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An update to all user group leaders...
by Rick Zach Aug. 27, 2002

Aug. 27, 2002

____________________________________ sent via the Boston User Groups Leadership Listserv ____________________________________ ==================================================================== Our annual user group MegaMeeting-III is near! Wed, Sept-25 Sheraton Tara in Framingham, MA Wednesday, September 25 from 6:30 - 9:30 PM http://www.BostonUserGroups.com/MegaMeeting ==================================================================== To all user group leaders: Boston User Groups is now almost one year old (at least as a true non-profit corporate entity) and MegaMeeting-III is just around the corner. Our value proposition TO you and our expectations OF you as a user group leader are quite simple: Boston User Groups' value proposition TO you: * Greatly increase your user group's visibility to the public * Help promote, increase and cross pollinate your user group membership with other groups * Assist to provide speakers via BUG web site awareness * Provide an annual MegaMeeting for face-to-face networking and exposure Boston User Groups expectation OF you as a user group leader * Greatly increase your User Group's visibility to the public by promoting BUG and it's other user groups * Have a link on your home page or other readily visible location on your web site back to BUG (again to increase mutual awareness) * Promote the MegaMeeting to your group to increase our mutual awareness As you can see, even BUG's expectations OF you are solely to help promote all user groups which certainly includes you. I would like to leave you with two thoughts and a "call to action": 1) Like your own user group, Boston User Groups is mostly funded by out-of-pocket personal donations of it's User Group leadership. In the case of MegaMeeting-III, we could not locate a free facility of adequate size and location so certain people fronted about $3,000 for room rental in the expectation of re-covering the costs by renewed BUG/UG leader memberships, door admission and a few corporate sponsorships. We are VERY non-profit. 2) I ask you to please help to aggressively promote the upcoming MegaMeeting and BUG. In the process, you will be promoting your own group! MegaMeeting-III Chairperson Brad Dinerman will be following up with a "call to action" email with specifics on up-front cash costs to you (none) and how to help promote the MegaMeeting and your own group! Please look for Brad's email coming soon. And finally: Please note a recent article by John C. Dvorak on the death of User Groups and the few glimmers of light out there. As a united group of groups, we may be one of those few glimmers. Please help us to help each other! The URL is http://www.pcmag.com/print_article/0,3048,a=29639,00.asp ______________________________________ Rick Zach, President Boston User Groups, Inc. cel: 508-395-8730 http://www.bostonusergroups.com/Benefactors/

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Server crash - is recovery possible?
by Richard Goodman Aug. 26, 2002

Aug. 26, 2002

I'm running a RH 7.0 box at home that does (a) NAT for the local network (b) mail server for multiple domains (c) web server for multiple domains and (d) DNS for multiple domains Yesterday I attempted to ssh login from a workstation and got a message "..exited with Signal 11". I attempted to log on from the console and could not - got screen full of messages and numbers. At this point at least the web server was still running. I hit reset to reboot, got all the standard messages until "Checking root filesystem...." About 5-10% in, then: "Warning ..fsck.ext2 for device /dev/hda2 exited with signal 11 [FAILED] " Looked in my configuration book this morning ... hda2 is "/" . The only fortunate thing is that /home and /var are separate partitions on a second hard drive. Is there any way to recover from this? Barring that - is there any way to recover any config files from various places in /etc on this partition. If not I guess its a complete reload - mainly a problem with mail and DNS config files. I am only mildly competent on this stuff. If you need more info, I'll get it, although I don't know how to capture that screen full of info at the abort point. Dick Richard Goodman (508) 757-3452 r.goodman(a)11harvard.com 11 Harvard St, Worcester MA 01609

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/dev/sequencer problems
by Wesley T Allen Aug. 25, 2002

Aug. 25, 2002

Hi all, I'm full of problems this week. Hopefully this'll have a successful ending as well! Any time I try to open a midi file, I get an error "can't open /dev/sequencer" it doesn't matter what desktop I'm in (sometimes I hate arts); and I can't figure this out. Anyone got an idea? Wes

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RE: [Wlug] orinoco driver
by Haines, Charles Allen Aug. 23, 2002

Aug. 23, 2002

I've got a question relating to this. I've got a netgear wireless card also. The card is detected and i can plug and play with it but I can't seem to get it set and essid. First off, I'm not sure which config it reading from /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts. I've tried manually configuring it with iwconfig, it accepts the WEIP key, however it will not accept my essid. I've tried typing iwconfig essid "WPI-Wireless-Network", but it doesn't seem to keep it. Once I put it in and type iwconfig again, it says ESSID="". Anyone have any ideas. I'm using gentoo linux with kernel 2.4.19. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Thu 8/22/2002 11:20 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Cc: Subject: Re: [Wlug] orinoco driver Hi Wes, I discovered on my laptop that I had to insure that my wireless card was listed in /etc/pcmcia/config or things didn't work. (Although I use SuSE 8.0, I believe the description below is distribution agnostic). Try this as root: # cardctl ident Note the "manfid" line. Next, check /etc/pcmcia/config and see if a card with an entry matching the manfid is present. In my case, there was no entry so I added one thus: card "Andy's Linksys Wireless" manfid 0x0274, 0x1613 bind "orinoco_cs" The card string seems to be arbitrary text. The manfid comes from "cardctl ident", and the bind is to a kernel module. I have hotplugging services running, so when I plug in my wireless adapter, it automagically loads the kernel module(s), starts the net, sets up routing, etc. Give it a try and let us know how it goes! Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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orinoco driver
by Wesley Allen Aug. 23, 2002

Aug. 23, 2002

Hi all, hope the BBQ went well, sorry I couldn't come (I was picking up my Brother-In-Law at Logan...sigh, one day I'll get to a meeting). I've got a netgear wifi card that works great in Mandrake Linux, with the exception of wep (I know, it's cracked). In doing some research on the card and the kernel module that loads wvlan_cs, I have found out that this module has been replaced (by and large) by orinoco_cs, which I understand to be more functional (i.e. maybe I can get wep working?). I tried modprobe -r wvlan_cs and modprobe orinoco_cs but it won't bind to my pcmcia card. So I figured, "Well, maybe my card is just one that can't use the newer driver..." WRONG! Just to see what it was like, I download Knoppix, burned it onto a cd, and booted it up. Guess what driver loaded? orinoco_cs!! And it worked well too. Well, since Knoppix is a cd-boot, run in memory distro; I'm not changing to it anytime soon. So I'm going to use this opportunity to learn something new. How can I bind the orinoco driver to my card? Wes -- This message may be digitally signed. For my public key, e-mail me a request.

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LUG's rule
by Wesley Allen Aug. 23, 2002

Aug. 23, 2002

Gang, can I just tell you how much I love the Linux community. You figure stuff out part way, and the community fills in the gaps! orinoco_cs is loaded, and wep is FINALLY enabled on my wlan! Thank you! Wes -- This message may be digitally signed. For my public key, e-mail me a request.

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WLUG BBQ
by Andy Stewart Aug. 22, 2002

Aug. 22, 2002

HI gang, I'm running late. I'm leaving my house now for the BBQ. I'll see ya there around 6:30 - 6:45 PM. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Red Hat, Westford MA career day
by Tim Burke Aug. 20, 2002

Aug. 20, 2002

FYI - we're having an open house next Wednesday. http://bostonworks.boston.com/events/openhouses/redhat.shtml

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REMINDER: WLUG BBQ
by Andy Stewart Aug. 18, 2002

Aug. 18, 2002

HI everybody, The WLUG BBQ will be held on Thursday, August 22nd starting at 6 PM. Directions to Doug Waud's house, a.k.a BBQ Central, can be found on the WLUG website. Please RSVP if you plan to attend. I've received 3 or 4 RSVPs and I'm sure there will be more people than that. We need to have an idea how much food to purchase. WLUG will supply the standard BBQ fare and some soda and munchies. If you want beer or wine, you may BYOB and we'll have a way to keep it cold. Feel free to bring your own dessert or cold salad items if you so choose. Doug's house has a pool so bring towels and such! If you can think of anything else, let me know. Otherwise, I'll see you all on Thursday. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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