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RE: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...
by Martin, Eric March 10, 2004

March 10, 2004

So, right now I don't get paid to read most of my ORA books, getting paid for it would be great!!!! Although, I am reading "Mastering Regular Expressions" right now on company time...got to get the spam filter working the best possible... -----Original Message----- From: Mike Peckar [mailto:fog@fognet.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:28 PM To: 'Worcester Linux Users Group' Subject: RE: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store... Bummer. ..was in that store last week and the clerk there was so bored he was half way through a book of "Jumbles." I wondered how many unemployed techno-dweebs would jump at the chance to be paid to read ORA books all day (albeit minimum wage). If only. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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KDE: Konqueror and fish protocol
by Andy Stewart March 8, 2004

March 8, 2004

HI all, Does anybody know what this "fish protocol" is that Konqueror can apparently use? I've noticed in Konqueror that besides typing "http:", one can also type things like "camera:", "ftp:", "sftp:" (but it doesn't quite work for me), and perhaps many others. I've just discovered "fish:" which appears to work the way I would expect "sftp:" to work. Does anybody have any experience with this? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest
by Ryan Caron March 5, 2004

March 5, 2004

Thanks for offering to loan your copy of PQMagic for the Installfest. I think we'll give the Open Source options a run through before the event; if they cause problems we'll revert to PQMagic. Concerning your server, I would move to another distro. I personally use Gentoo, but for your applications you may want to go with Debian. I like Gentoo since its so customizable, and the fact that everything is compiled from the source code speeds up the computer a fair amount. For Apache file permissions, directories should be 755 and files should be 644 as I understand it. I've always had a hard time with Samba and file permissions, so I would leave that to someone else. Apache and Samba config files can be very unique to what you are trying to accomplish with both - the only thing I can really suggest is to copy the config files onto a disk before your wipe out so you don't have to start from scratch! Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 11:27:37 -0500 From: Pete Wason <rogue(a)hynoom.com> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Message-ID: <40460779.7090306(a)hynoom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Martin, Eric wrote: > What are you looking for as far as help? > I'm running RH8.0 on my server. a. I'm not sure if I should continue to use RH as support has expired, and I can't affort their enterprise version. b. I'm not sure of/satisfied with my Apache configuration c. I'm not sure of/satisfied with my Samba configuration d. I'm not sure of/satisfied with general file permissions as they relate to (b and c) e. I want to install tcpserver and qmail, and disable sendmail (which I'm not using anyway) Network: CAT-5 ethernet Server: Dell 600SC/RH8.0 (http, samba, sshd, etc.) Router: LinkSys BEFSR81, on a cablemodem... Wkstns: Pegasos I/Morphos 1.4 (samba server also, I think) Clone PC/Win2000 Pro (windows shares, printer) Amiga 3000D/AmigaOS3.1 (printer, accesses shares via smbfs) Amiga 3000D/AmigaOS3.1 (smbfs) Sony Vaio laptop/WinXP Home (windows shares) Questions, Comments: 1. Is it normal that my http port should be getting hit hundreds of times a day with intrusion attacks aimed at an NT server? Strange days indeed... 2. I also am constantly bombarded with hundreds of virus-infected spam messages; right now I'm using a mailserver in NJ -- when I get mine set up, I'll switch. 3. I find it strange and somewhat disturbing that if I have my laptop booted to the logon screen, I can connect to its shares via samba - without a password! Is this normal (read: goofy) windows security? 4. If I didn't have to spend all my time looking for a job, doing part-time work on the side, and acting as non-paid VP of an ill-fated (so far) software startup, I could just hunker down and learn all this stuff myself. Right now, that's not an option. Pete

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RE: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest
by Martin, Eric March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

What are you looking for as far as help? -----Original Message----- From: Pete Wason [mailto:rogue@hynoom.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 8:49 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest Ryan Caron wrote: > As I mentioned in an earlier email, the Worcester Area Association for > Computing Machinery will be having a Linux Installfest on March 27th. > We are working under the assumption that many of the people that will > attend will want to keep their Windows installations as well. > Therefore, we need a nondestructive repartitioning software package. > It would also be nice if we could make an image of their hard drive > before we do anything so we can ensure the integrity of the data if > something were to go wrong. > > Unfortunately, the IT departments does not have copies of Partition > Magic or Ghost that we could use for the event. Does anybody have an > appropriately licensed copy of the software that we could use , or > know of Open Source / Freeware alternatives that are as reliable as > their commercial counterparts? Does someone's place of work have such > software that they would be willing for the ACM to use for the event? > Is anybody aware of Open Source / Freeware alternatives that are just > as reliable as these software packages (these systems will probably be > using NTFS, which is much more fickle than FAT32 when it comes to > these things) > > Any assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated, and the > ACM welcomes the WLUG to the Installfest on the 27th. > I own a copy of PartitionMagic 7.0 - not the latest, but I use it for client work and for my own machine from time to time. It seems to work fine on NTFS. I'm willing to loan a copy of it for the Installfest - let me know the details. On a related note, I'm still looking for some linuxy/networky help here at my place. I can't pay much, if anything, but maybe we could work out a deal. Latex, Pete Wason _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] DistCC
by Martin, Eric March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

Let me try and get a few things working in house, but I'm def up for trying...i have a PIII that can donate a few cycles.... -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Caron [mailto:rcaron@WPI.EDU] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:47 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] DistCC 1) are you referring to the log that distcc generaties via distcc-config --set-log ? Or are you referring to your compile screens? If the compile screens, then DistCC is working, it just doesn't display it. Try setting the log file and reviewing it after a compile 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything either, thats why i stick with the log. One disadvantage to the log is that it does not log date & time, which a friend of mine (the other guy on the distcc servers page) is trying to resolve. 3) I'm just doing x86 at this point, but I'll install cross compile support for you on my machines. 4) Just send me your server names and I will add them to my page. I'm thinking about writing a script that will parse a web page for server names and plug it into the distcc hosts variable. That way the network would be more dynamic to changes in the host lists. I'll keep you all posted. On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 "Martin, Eric" wrote Subject: RE: [Wlug] DistCC 1) I would like to, but I'm having problems getting distcc to work (I think). When I configure my clients, they will keep showing lines that *distcc can't find host 192.168.0.10*, but when that client is up, I don't get anything. I'm running gentoo on all my linux boxes, and I followed the distcc guide. 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything...any help? 3) Are you just doing x86 or do we want to try cross compiling, or have a few networks? I have a few x86s, a sparc64 and a ppcG3 all running gentoo. I'm trying to get cross compiling working, but like I said, I can't see if stuff is going or not. 4) I'm up for it. Share and Share alike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] DistCC
by Ryan Caron March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

1) are you referring to the log that distcc generaties via distcc-config --set-log ? Or are you referring to your compile screens? If the compile screens, then DistCC is working, it just doesn't display it. Try setting the log file and reviewing it after a compile 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything either, thats why i stick with the log. One disadvantage to the log is that it does not log date & time, which a friend of mine (the other guy on the distcc servers page) is trying to resolve. 3) I'm just doing x86 at this point, but I'll install cross compile support for you on my machines. 4) Just send me your server names and I will add them to my page. I'm thinking about writing a script that will parse a web page for server names and plug it into the distcc hosts variable. That way the network would be more dynamic to changes in the host lists. I'll keep you all posted. On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 "Martin, Eric" wrote Subject: RE: [Wlug] DistCC 1) I would like to, but I'm having problems getting distcc to work (I think). When I configure my clients, they will keep showing lines that *distcc can't find host 192.168.0.10*, but when that client is up, I don't get anything. I'm running gentoo on all my linux boxes, and I followed the distcc guide. 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything...any help? 3) Are you just doing x86 or do we want to try cross compiling, or have a few networks? I have a few x86s, a sparc64 and a ppcG3 all running gentoo. I'm trying to get cross compiling working, but like I said, I can't see if stuff is going or not. 4) I'm up for it. Share and Share alike

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Gentoo...
by Ryan Caron March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

Whoa, didn't mean to start a mini flame war! I think the portage system does wonders with the dependencies, and as I understand it portage is very BSD-like (I don't have any experience with BSD yet) with their package system. OK, one box boots up in 24 seconds (from GRUB menu to XDM login), and the other in 16 seconds (GRUB to CLI login). Now, thats a lot faster than default Red Hat installs, which can take minutes on a similarly capable machine. A good part of the faster bootup is that my Gentoo installation is, at least for now, much leaner than Red Hat and doesn't have to load as many daemons. But major distros like Red Hat, for compatibility sake, compile their code (or at least used to) as i386 for compatibility. Some have moved to i586. But my gentoo box is specifically compiled for the P4 with O3 compile flag. So that does speed things up a bit. Also, I run seti@home 24/7 on my personal boxes, so I never have any idle CPU percentages. On Red Hat seti@home would slow me down when I was really working the computer's resources. Haven't seen that happen yet in Gentoo. So, maybe its not the compiles that make it faster. But the capability to customize it, its inherent leanness (do I really want to install this if it takes 4 hours to compile)?, and its package system make it my linux distro of choice. Ryan Caron ACM Secretary

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DistCC
by Ryan Caron March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

It appears that at least a couple people here are using Gentoo. I am working on building a DistCC (Distributed C Compiling) network so that our "emerge -u world" and Stage 1 installations go by that much quicker. It has substantially improved my installation time - my first Stage 1 install, which did not use Distcc took nearly 3 days (some downtime was incurred since I had to sleep and go to class). With only 2 Pentium 4's and 1 Pentium 3, I was able to cut that time down to about 24 hours - the installation was on my 1.6Ghz Celeron, so you know that most of the compiling capabilities wasn't done on that! If you would like to use the Distcc network I'm putting together to get your Gentoo box running or to make emerge -u world that much quicker, all I ask is that you please run the Distcc server on your machine as well. The list of servers, scheduled emerge -u world times, and a script I wrote to automatically do emerge -u world is available at: http://www.acm.wpi.edu/~rcaron/Gentoo.shtml Gentoo's HOW-TO on configuring DistCC is at: http://www.Gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml Please email me if you have any questions or would like to contribute to the network. Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary

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RE: [Wlug] DistCC
by Martin, Eric March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

1) I would like to, but I'm having problems getting distcc to work (I think). When I configure my clients, they will keep showing lines that *distcc can't find host 192.168.0.10*, but when that client is up, I don't get anything. I'm running gentoo on all my linux boxes, and I followed the distcc guide. 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything...any help? 3) Are you just doing x86 or do we want to try cross compiling, or have a few networks? I have a few x86s, a sparc64 and a ppcG3 all running gentoo. I'm trying to get cross compiling working, but like I said, I can't see if stuff is going or not. 4) I'm up for it. Share and Share alike -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Caron [mailto:rcaron@WPI.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:28 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] DistCC It appears that at least a couple people here are using Gentoo. I am working on building a DistCC (Distributed C Compiling) network so that our "emerge -u world" and Stage 1 installations go by that much quicker. It has substantially improved my installation time - my first Stage 1 install, which did not use Distcc took nearly 3 days (some downtime was incurred since I had to sleep and go to class). With only 2 Pentium 4's and 1 Pentium 3, I was able to cut that time down to about 24 hours - the installation was on my 1.6Ghz Celeron, so you know that most of the compiling capabilities wasn't done on that! If you would like to use the Distcc network I'm putting together to get your Gentoo box running or to make emerge -u world that much quicker, all I ask is that you please run the Distcc server on your machine as well. The list of servers, scheduled emerge -u world times, and a script I wrote to automatically do emerge -u world is available at: http://www.acm.wpi.edu/~rcaron/Gentoo.shtml Gentoo's HOW-TO on configuring DistCC is at: http://www.Gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml Please email me if you have any questions or would like to contribute to the network. Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest
by Martin, Eric March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

For me honestly, it has to do with the fact that I got sick and tired of RedHat. I got tired of *rpm -qa | grep (some dependancy)* Do I feel like it sped things up from redhat, yeah! Do I like the fact that I've learned a ton about linux, not RedHat, yeah. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing RH, its just that *I* used RPMS as way too much of a crutch.) I like that I had evolution w/o ldap support, said "oh, I must have forgotten that flag", fixed the flag, and recompilied. Portage dl'd ldap for me, I didn't have to worry about deps...that's where gentoo really takes it for me. Eric Ps, sorry for ranting on the list -----Original Message----- From: Scott Venier [mailto:scott@scooter.cx] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:57 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest Scott Venier said: > Thank you thank you thank you. > > I'm so sick of the gentoo weenies claiming that. > OK. I'll apologize for this one up front. That was supposed to be off list. Bad squirrelmail. Now for some justification so I don't seem like a total jerk. I've just read reports of using 3 days of CPU time to intall a gentoo system. My wimpy k6 system has over 98% idle cpu cycles - that's running i386 compiled debian code and a not totally trivial workload, it's a firewall, mail/web/dns server, and has a fair number of interactive users (15 as I write this, but it's still early in the day). My computer spends almost all of its time waiting for me. Any time that it doesn't spend waiting for me is spent waiting for I/O devices like disks and the network. If you want your computer to be faster, get yourself gobs of ram and run out of a ram disk. The cpu time is rarely the bottle. 3 days to save something that I'm only using 3% of... It's just not worth the hassle, imho. Scott _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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