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Need input re: developers tools
by Andy Stewart 19 Apr '01

19 Apr '01

HI gang, I am starting to write up the last 1/3 of my presentation to the Delphi Developers group, and its the section on developer tools and utilities. I'd like some input from you folks as to what I should include in this section. Emacs - the original "IDE" (???) gdb for debugging (nicer with DDD front end, IMHO) make and Makefiles gcc What else do "real" Linux developers use? Maybe I'm suffering a brain cramp this evening, but your input will help. Also, are there any tools or compilers for Pascal? Remember, the Delphi folks understand Pascal, and I'm sure they will ask this question. (It has been 20 years since I programmed anything in Pascal...). Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | Osborn's Law: Variables won't; constants Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | aren't. Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | http://www.wlug.org |

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[Fwd: Your 4/19 LUG meeting]
by Andy Stewart 19 Apr '01

19 Apr '01

HI gang, Would somebody who attends the WLUG meeting on Thursday be willing to write up something which can be posted on LWN, LinuxToday, and LinuxUsersGroups.org? Kara has asked, and I told her that we'd come up with something. Thanks in advance, Andy -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Your 4/19 LUG meeting Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:24:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Kara Pritchard <kara(a)luci.org> To: <andystewart(a)mediaone.net> Hi Andy, Looks like you have a fun evening planned for your next LUG meeting. I'd be interested if you (or someone in your group) would do a write-up about the special meeting, or perhaps an interview. I'll host it at LinuxUsersGroups.org and have it posted to LWN and LinuxToday. It'll be a good opportunity both for your group and for Ziegler's book. -- Kara Pritchard Phone: 618-398-7360 Author, RHCE Exam Cram Director of Exam Development http://www.lpi.org/ Site Manager http://www.LinuxUsersGroups.org/ --

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Re: [Wlug] max memory?
by ccb＠acm.org 18 Apr '01

18 Apr '01

> > Is linux limited to 4GB memory? > > Nope, not 2.4 anyways. I don't remember the limit, but it's a big > number. ;-) > > > I have inherited some boxes with 5GB each and I'm planning on loading linux. Some things to remember - if these are x86 architecture boxes, you still have a 3GB per process user space limit. Even with 64GB of RAM, no single process can see more than 4GB and the top 1GB of that is mapped as kernel space. Big memory means that you get to have lots of large virtual address spaces that can remain mapped in physical RAM. For virtual address spaces with wider than 32-bit addresses, you need 64-bit processors. ccb -- Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com

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Red Hat Linux 7.1
by Charles R. Anderson 17 Apr '01

17 Apr '01

Red Hat 7.1, based on the Linux 2.4 kernel, is out as of 10:00am this morning. I have a mirror of i386 disc1 and disc2 ISO's and the full FTP install tree if anyone wants it. FTP install/upgrade boot image: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.1/en/os/i386/images/boot… Server: angus.ind.wpi.edu Directory: /pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.1/en/os/i386 ISO download: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.1/en/iso/i386 Have fun! Charles R. Anderson cra(a)wpi.edu Network Engineer (508) 831-6110 Computing and Communications Center (508) 831-5115 Worcester Polytechnic Institute Fax (508) 831-5483

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Re: [Wlug] Need input re: developers tools
by Doug Chamberlin 17 Apr '01

17 Apr '01

At 4/16/2001 11:50 AM (Monday), Scott Venier wrote: >You might also want to mention codewarrior. http://www.metrowerks.com >Nice and pretty for those folks who grew up developing on macos or >windows. You might keep in mind that the Delphi Developers Group is made up of developers who are 99% likely to use Kylix for development. Therefore, they won't be much interested in alternative development environments. However, they WILL be interested in auxiliary tools which are considered essential to managing applications on Linux not matter what the original language the app is written in. I would put the rpm and other packaging/installing tools in this category. P.S. I think Kylix includes a debugger. If it is as good as the one Borland has for the Win32 platform then it is all these developers will be using.

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max memory?
by Bill Mills-Curran 16 Apr '01

16 Apr '01

Is linux limited to 4GB memory? I have inherited some boxes with 5GB each and I'm planning on loading linux. Thanks, Bill

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RE: [Wlug] max memory?
by Keller, Tim 16 Apr '01

16 Apr '01

Nope, the new kernel will work with 64gb, you just have to go under "Processor type and features" and change the settings for High Memory Support. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Mills-Curran [mailto:bcurran@clariion.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 11:54 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] max memory? Is linux limited to 4GB memory? I have inherited some boxes with 5GB each and I'm planning on loading linux. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Is WMF a proprietary format?
by Andy Stewart 16 Apr '01

16 Apr '01

If not, are there tools to convert it into something viewable on a Linux box? There are viewers available for Solaris, but not Linux. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | "Why is it that we rejoice at a birth and Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | grieve at a funeral? It is because we Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | are not the person involved" -- Mark http://www.wlug.org | Twain

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Re: Verizon DSL questions
by cc.noyes 14 Apr '01

14 Apr '01

LRP 3.1.0. You need to browse the various kernel images at www.linuxrouter.org to find the one that most closely matches your environment. You'll probably want an image that has a pppoe (if you're using Verizon DSL), ipchains, DHCP, caching DNS, etc. You can download it along with the modules for your ethernet cards. Since this is a router, you'll need at least 2 ethernet cards; one for the "WAN" side (DSL connection) and one for your local (LAN) network. I use my LRP box as a gateway/router and a firewall (running ipchains). My Verizon DSL "modem" is connected to the LRP box via one of the ethernet cards and the other ethernet card in the LRP box is connected to a hub in my house. All of the PCs in the house are also connected to the hub. I configured a private class C ethernet network in my house and all the PC's have a 192.168.x.y address, including the LAN interface of the LRP box. The WAN side gets it IP address from Verizon via DHCP. These addresses get "spoofed" via IPMASQ to the outside world. The whole set-up works great. You can get other modules to load from the floppy, but remember everything has to fit on a floppy. One neat trick is the ability to format a floppy to hold more than 1.4 MB. I don't recall if it's the fdformat command or something else (I'm sure someone on this list can supply the details.....it's been a while, and I don't remember), but you can format a floppy so it will hold 1.6 MB (maybe more) and Linux has no trouble booting from it. The neat thing is that you can use an old "clunker" PC that you may have lying around for the LRP box. You don't even need a hard drive, and it's recommended that you DON'T use a hard drive (secruity reasons...remember this box is exposed to the outside world). I don't even have a monitor or keyboard connected to the LRP box. It just runs and runs and runs.... Step through the LRP configuration, write-protect the floppy, and you're in business.... I hope this helps..... -Chuck Randall Hofland wrote: > That was more like a whole nickel. Which version of LRP? Are you running just the > router or do you have some of the other goodies like the firewall, etc.? And the big > question: is it possible to run multiple floppies to add services? > > I've actually been planning on using OpenBSD either on one of my 68K Macs or on a > Pentium/K6 box for my front end, but if I can get the LRP to work with a couple of > floppies, that would do as well. But I am still waiting for any version of "broadband" > so I can hook up my various clusters to the web. > > "cc.noyes" wrote: > > > I've had Verizon's ADSL service (the "cheapo" $39.95 service) since December and > > it's been solid. I have no complaints. I use an old PC running LRP (Linux Router > > Project, see www.linuxrouter.org) The LRP boots from a single floppy (I removed > > the hard drive). The LRP uses Ragin Penguin's pppoe. It's simple to install and > > set up. > > > > Verizon has NO clue about anything other than Win98. So they were no help to me. > > I installed their h/w and my own LRP box, but it was no big deal. I've never had > > to call fo support, so I don't know how good they are, but...they only want to deal > > with systems runing Win98. > > > > Just my $.02..... > > > > -Chuck > > > > Mark Caron wrote: > > > > > I'm considering DSL for myself at home. I've already checked out the Verizon > > > site and I am about 6,000 ft or so away from the c.o., so I'm ok on that front. > > > I am wondering if there's anything new regarding Verizon DSL in regards to > > > Linux. How Linux friendly are they these days? I know from reading their > > > website that I'm probably on my own for supporting linux on their DSL, but > > > that's ok I figured that. Any problems or other considerations I should be > > > looking into? Besides buying a DSL/cable modem router, that's already on the > > > 'to buy' list. I know it's about a 3 week wait I believe for the setup date. > > > Also a friend of mine in NYC just got hers 2 weeks ago, and had to go through a > > > setup program on her windows box. Is this just setting up pppoe? Or does it > > > also setup the DSL modem? Am I correct in thinking that it's just the pppoe and > > > I can just setup my linux box with pppoe and setup the DSL router and be done > > > with it. Or should I just plug in my win95 harddrive and let the setup program > > > setup the DSL modem then fire up linux and finish setting up linux and the DSL > > > router? > > > > > > Thanks for any advice. > > > > > > Mark > > > - > > > Subcription/unsubscription/info requests: send e-mail with > > > "subscribe", "unsubscribe", or "info" on the first line of the > > > message body to discuss-request(a)blu.org (Subject line is ignored). > > > > - > > Subcription/unsubscription/info requests: send e-mail with > > "subscribe", "unsubscribe", or "info" on the first line of the > > message body to discuss-request(a)blu.org (Subject line is ignored).

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REMINDER: Upcoming Linux events
by Andy Stewart 13 Apr '01

13 Apr '01

HI everybody, Here's a quick reminder about upcoming events. ================================== Wednesday, April 18th: Richard Stallman will be speaking at Holy Cross in Worcester Location: 112 O'Neill Hall Time: 3:30 PM - 5:30 PM Here's a map of the campus: http://www.holycross.edu/about/camp_mapbw.html ================================== Thursday, April 19th: WLUG meeting Location: Kinnicutt Hall, WPI in Worcester Time: 7:00 PM Speaker: Bob Ziegler, Linux Firewalls ================================== Monday, April 23rd: Delphi Developers' Group Meeting Location: Allaire Corporation, Newton, MA Time: starts at 7:00 PM (be there earlier to setup) Directions to this meeting can be found here: http://www.discom.com/delphi/ I will be giving a presentation to this group (details can be found at the "Meetings" link on the Delphi website). A group of WLUG volunteers will be on hand to demonstrate Linux software. One person who had volunteered to help at the Delphi Developers group has had to drop out, so I am looking for 1 or perhaps 2 more volunteers who'd like to come to this meeting to help out with demos of Linux on their own hardware. Please get back to me ASAP. Thanks! ================================== Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder -o) | "I have the world's largest collection of Worcester Linux Users' Group /\ | seashells. I keep it scattered around Worcester, MA, USA _\_v | the beaches of the world ... Perhaps http://www.wlug.org | you've seen it. -- Steven Wright

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