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RE: [Wlug] Cable or Good DSL ISP's
by Keller, Tim 26 Nov '01

26 Nov '01

Hey, when my point of reference was a 56k modem that got a sustained throughput of 5kb a second, crappy DSL will always be better than great modem service. I agree that the PPPoE stuff is crap. As for the NAT stuff, I'm using a netgear RP114 that provides DHCP/NAT/PPPoE plus it does port forwarding of ssh to my linux box and I'm yet to have a problem. Though as always, don't call the tech support, you'd have better luck jabbing a chopstick in your eye. As for Clint's comment, my parents have charter and haven't had a problem except that now everybody has charter in the neighborhood it gets useless from around 7pm to 9pm. So its stable, but the speed fluctuates greatly. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Charles R . Anderson [mailto:cra@WPI.EDU] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 11:00 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Cable or Good DSL ISP's On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:26:15AM -0500, Keller, Tim wrote: Tim.Keller> I've had really good luck with Verizon DSL (get about 70-80k a second + no Tim.Keller> down time). In Worcester you might want to check out Speakeasy. A couple Tim.Keller> people in WLUG use them and are happy. Yuck. Verizon uses PPPoE, a broken-by-design protocol (sort of like PPTP, which is also broken by design). You will have performance problems if you try to use NAT with PPPoE due to the reduced MTU. I also highly recommend Speakeasy. They are best-of-breed as far as DSL companies go. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Cable or Good DSL ISP's
by dibb_jim＠emc.com 26 Nov '01

26 Nov '01

Verizon got a lot of bad press (probably deserved) but for the past 8 months at least my service in Framingham has been very solid. The news servers are so slow as to be almost useless and there's a funny restriction about what domain must be used to send e-mail, but neither of those really affect me. Check out http://www.dslreports.com for tons of info on dsl. -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:26 AM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: RE: [Wlug] Cable or Good DSL ISP's I've had really good luck with Verizon DSL (get about 70-80k a second + no down time). In Worcester you might want to check out Speakeasy. A couple people in WLUG use them and are happy. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Rodrigo Gomes [mailto:gomes_k@dr.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:27 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Cable or Good DSL ISP's Hey there, I'm looking for a Cable or a DSL ISP's in Worcester (June Street). I've had a chance to see my brother's AOL PLUS DSL, and it sucks. I also tried to contact Charter to install pipeline, but they never answer the e-mail. If someone knows a good ISP, let me know! Thanks. Rod. -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup 1 cent a minute calls anywhere in the U.S.! http://www.getpennytalk.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=RG9853KJ&url=http:// www.getpennytalk.com _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Cable or Good DSL ISP's
by Rodrigo Gomes 26 Nov '01

26 Nov '01

Hey there, I'm looking for a Cable or a DSL ISP's in Worcester (June Street). I've had a chance to see my brother's AOL PLUS DSL, and it sucks. I also tried to contact Charter to install pipeline, but they never answer the e-mail. If someone knows a good ISP, let me know! Thanks. Rod. -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup 1 cent a minute calls anywhere in the U.S.! http://www.getpennytalk.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=RG9853KJ&url=http:/…

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iPAQ 3835 and linux?
by Wesley Allen 25 Nov '01

25 Nov '01

Hi everyone, Well, I just traded in my old iPAQ and got the new 3835 (games are possible at last, yea!!!). This version comes with serial connector, along with the usb one. This means that, finally, I can get the boot loader installed on my iPAQ and run linux! Couple of questions first, though... Has anyone run linux on this version yet? The hardware is essentially the same, but you never know... Which version should I install? Is yopy's distro available? What about zarus'? Should I use embedded QT, or go with a straight familiar distro using blackbox? Does embedded linux able to mount filesystems on secure memory cards? Just need to know in case I want to get one. Where are good places to get software for embedded linux? Any good games/emulators? What about running pocketPC software? Has anyone screwed with their spouse's head by using the universal remote yet? I'm looking foward to wiping 2002 off my iPAQ, it's got the ugly "kindergarden" interface that helps me despise XP so much. Wes

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No 2.2.x kernel with redhat 7.1?
by Keller, Tim 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

Why the hell when you install Redhat 7.1 it installs the 2.4.2 kernel but when you into /lib/modules you see stuff for 2.2.16? Tim.

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Question
by Pierce C. Barnard 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Hello, I am interested in getting involved in any project that I can put my Unix skills to use. I want to build up some experience that I can use to further my career objectives in becoming a network administrator. Does anyone need an extra pair of hands for a project? Thanks.

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WLUG Meeting TONIGHT Wed Nov 14th
by Andy Stewart 14 Nov '01

14 Nov '01

Hi Everybody, Unfortunately, I will be unable to attend this evening's WLUG meeting due to a rotten cold and a low grade fever which I seem to have picked up somewhere. I would encourage all of you to meet this evening, and some brave soul who has been in WLUG for a long time can get up and run the meeting in my absence. Have a beer for me at the Boynton! Here is what I had planned to report to the group this evening. I would like somebody to read this to the group in case folks haven't checked their e-mail before the meeting. 1) WLUG financials I have consolidated the accounts so that all of the WLUG money is in an account at the Lowell Five bank in Chelmsford, MA. I just paid the $50 fee to join the Boston User Groups as was voted at a previous WLUG meeting, and I wrote myself a $75 check for refreshments for the calendar year 2001. That leaves us with approx. $575.00 in the bank, which has been raised through your donations as well as install fest proceeds. 2) Annual Linux Showcase This event was not attended nearly as well as in past years, due in part to the fear of flying and by the fact that many computer people have been recently laid off. There were only half as many vendors as in the past, again due to the economy, I suspect. I found the quality of the techinical talks to be very good. I heard talk that there wouldn't be an ALS next year, but that Maddog was pushing for a small number of more local conferences, perhaps one in Boston. Some cool things which I saw at ALS: a) Linux running on a Compaq iPAQ, one running X and an xterm, the other running Qt Embedded with a bunch of PDA like applications. Refer to http://www.handhelds.org for more information. b) Latest versions of Gnome and KDE in action c) A large number of kernel hackers (including Linus) on one room d) A cluster of small embedded computers built by Los Alamos National Labs, all running Linux out of FLASH memory. e) A great beer selection at the Pacific Coast Brewing Company I personally spoke to Jim Gettys and a representative from the Free Software Foundation (I think his name was Brad, but I have his card). I might be able to get one or both of these folks to come to WLUG to give a talk in the future. I guess I'll have to save the freebies until next month. See ya later, and have a great meeting! Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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Fwd: CALL FOR PAPERS: '02 Usenix Annual Technical/Freenix
by Andy Stewart 14 Nov '01

14 Nov '01

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS: '02 Usenix Annual Technical/Freenix Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:49:16 -0800 From: Ann Tsai <ann(a)usenix.org> To: andystewart(a)mediaone.net ATTN:Worcester linux Users' Group Dear Andy, Below is a conference announcement and call for papers for the 2002 USENIX Annual Technical Conference/Freenix Program. Please let me know if you have a more appropriate method for submitting this information. Thank you for your assistance! Best Regards, Ann Tsai USENIX Association/SAGE 2560 Ninth Street, Suite 215 Berkeley, CA. 94710 ph (510) 528-8649 fx (510) 548-5738 www.usenix.org The 2002 USENIX Technical Conference program committee needs your help in developing the best technical conference program of 2002! 2002 USENIX Annual Technical Conference June 9-14, 2002 Monterey, CA http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix02/ The program committee seeks original and innovative papers about the applications, architecture, implementation, and performance of modern computing systems. Interesting application topics include, but are not limited to: *Cluster computing *File systems and storage systems *Complexity management *Distributed caching and replication *Mobile code *Mobile/Wireless computing *Networking and network services *Multimedia *Reliability and QoS *Security and privacy *Ubiquitous computing *usage studies *Web technologies *Energy/Power Management *Interoperability of heterogeneous systems Submissions to the General Refereed Sessions Track are due on November 19, 2001. We look forward to receiving your submissions! Carla Ellis, Duke University Program Chair ------------------------------------------------------- 2002 Freenix Program Share your expertise with the open source/freely available software community by submitting a paper to the 2002 FREENIX program. The submission deadline has been extended until November 19th, 2001. Submission guidelines and sample abstracts are available on our Web site: http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix02/cfp/ FREENIX is a special track within the USENIX Annual Technical Conference that showcases the latest developments and applications in freely-redistributed technology. The FREENIX track covers the full range of software and source code including, but not limited to Apache, Darwin, FreeBSD, GNOME, GNU, KDE, Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, Perl, PHP, Python, Samba, Tcl/Tk and more. Areas of interest include, but are not limited to: *Cross-platform source portability and binary compatibility *Desktop metaphors *Distributed and parallel systems *Documentation *File system design *Highly-available systems *Graphical user interface tools *Storage Systems *Highly-scalable and clustered systems *Security *System and user management tools *Quality Assurance *Large scale system management *Print Systems *Free Software development/mgmt *Operating system design *Interesting deployments of free software We look forward to receiving your submissions! Chris Demetriou, Broadcom Corp. Freenix Track Program Chair Carla Ellis, Duke University Program Chair -- Ann Tsai Marketing Coordinator Usenix Association 510-528-8649 x31 ann(a)usenix.org ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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REMINDER: Meeting Wednesday, Nov 14th 7:00 PM
by Andy Stewart 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

HI everybody, This is a friendly reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Wednesday, Nov. 14th, at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA, USA. On the agenda for this meeting: 0) Update on the WLUG financial situation 1) My trip report from the recently held Annual Linux Showcase in Oakland, CA, USA 2) My stories about "airport hell" (the new security at airports) and deep sea fishing on the Pacific Ocean (or, how I paddled like crazy so we wouldn't hit the jetty when the engine died). 3) Lots of freebies from ALS - many will be given away at this meeting, including a couple of tee shirts, bags, Borland Kylix (for Linux) and Delphi (for Windows) CDs, SuSE Live Eval CDs, LNX-BBC CDs, and more! 4) Items from the audience - Q/A, etc. 5) "Refreshments" at the Boynton Restaurant after the meeting See ya there! -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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installing Bugzilla
by Rick Gansler 12 Nov '01

12 Nov '01

I missed the last install-fest, and am anxiously awaiting the next one. I'm considering deploying Bugzilla in my group, and was wondering if anyone has experience installing it, or even opinions about using it. The doc sends mixed messages about the complexity of the install: "Bugzilla is not a package where you can just plop it in a directory, twiddle a few things, and you're off." and then later on... "Installation of Bugzilla is pretty straightforward." The doc also makes it pretty clear that it'll run on Windows, but that there's additional complexity. It even sounds like it'll be easier to install on OSX than on Win2k, and that's fine with me. thanks in advance for any opinions, Rick Gansler

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