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This is an ancient OS.
by Ken Jones Aug. 25, 2009

Aug. 25, 2009

John et al, I think I have a real problem.. Neither OS uses /etc/X11/xorg.conf as one would expect. I think there is a book available entitled "Computing in the Middle Ages". Could it be????? First kjones-sun [root@kjones-sun X11]# uname -a Linux kjones-sun 2.4.20-2.3sparc #1 Wed Jan 15 18:27:52 EST 2003 sparc64 unknow ---------- xrandr is not interesting--------------- [root@kjones-sun kjones]# xrandr -q Can't open display (null) ----------------no xorg.conf --------- [root@kjones-sun kjones]# cd /etc/X11 [root@kjones-sun X11]# ls applnk proxymngr twm XF86Config-4 xinit xsrirc fs rstart X XF86Config-4.rpmsave xkb gdm serverconfig xdm XF86Config-5 Xmodmap lbxproxy starthere XF86Config XF86Config_orig xserver prefdm sysconfig XF86Config~ XftConfig xsm [root@kjones-sun X11]# There seems to be no xorg.conf. anywhere. "locate" can not find it. ==================================================== Now kjones-sun2 kjones-sun2 ~ # uname -a Linux kjones-sun2 2.6.20-gentoo-r5 #4 SMP Tue May 22 20:27:03 Local time zone mu st be set--see zic sparc64 sun4u TI UltraSparc I (SpitFire) GNU/Linux --------xrandr -q still not interesting-------- kjones-sun2 ~ # xrandr -q Can't open display kjones-sun2 ~ # locate xorg.conf warning: locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old /usr/portage/app-emulation/vmware-workstation-tools/files/xorg.conf.ferris /usr/portage/app-emulation/vmware-workstation-tools/files/xorg.conf /usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.5x.bz2 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.example ------------------try /etc/X11 for kicks------------------ kjones-sun2 ~ # cd /etc/X11 kjones-sun2 X11 # ls Sessions app-defaults chooser.sh mwm startDM.sh xinit xorg.conf.example kjones-sun2 X11 # ------------------xorg.conf looks like an example----------- kjones-sun2 ~ # more /usr/portage/app-emulation/vmware-workstation-tools/files/x org.conf --More--(22%) Section "ServerLayout" --More--(22%) Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "dri" Load "dbe" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "glx" Load "type1" Load "freetype" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" HorizSync 1-10000 --More--(75%) VertRefresh 1-10000 ModeLine "640x480" 100 640 700 800 900 480 500 600 700 ModeLine "800x600" 100 800 900 1000 1100 600 700 800 900 ModeLine "1024x768" 100 1024 1100 1200 1300 768 800 900 1000 ModeLine "1152x864" 100 1152 1200 1300 1400 864 900 1000 1100 ModeLine "1152x900" 100 1152 1200 1300 1400 900 1000 1100 1200 ModeLine "1280x1024" 100 1280 1300 1400 1500 1024 1100 1200 1300 ModeLine "1376x1032" 100 1376 1400 1500 1600 1032 1100 1200 1300 ModeLine "1600x1200" 100 1600 1700 1800 1900 1200 1300 1400 1500 ModeLine "2364x1773" 100 2364 2400 2500 2600 1773 1800 1900 2000 EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False", ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "HWcursor" # [<bool>] #Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>] Identifier "Card0" Driver "vmware" --More--(90%) VendorName "VMWare Inc" BoardName "Unknown Board" BusID "PCI:0:15:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection Thanks, Ken Jones

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I've posted on Linux Questions
by Ken Jones Aug. 23, 2009

Aug. 23, 2009

Folks, thank you for your help so far. I have made progress. The image on my screen is still unacceptable. It will be interesting to see whether linuxquestions can come up with something http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/belkin-sun-adapte… Ken Jones

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I think I've found the cuprit
by Ken Jones Aug. 21, 2009

Aug. 21, 2009

I think the monitor/display controlling configuration file in my Aurora machine is /etc/X11/XF86Config [root@kjones-sun etc]# cd X11 [root@kjones-sun X11]# ls applnk proxymngr twm XF86Config-4 xinit xsrirc fs rstart X XF86Config-4.rpmsave xkb gdm serverconfig xdm XF86Config-5 Xmodmap lbxproxy starthere XF86Config XF86Config_orig xserver prefdm sysconfig XF86Config~ XftConfig xsm It is too long to send to all. The question is what should it say? Ken

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getting rid of some monitors
by Jared Greenwald Aug. 20, 2009

Aug. 20, 2009

I apologize in advance for spamming the list with my want ad. I need to get rid of some CRT monitors and am wondering if anyone on the list would be interested. They are as follows... 1x Gateway Vivitron (circa '95) 17" 1x Compaq MV940 19" 2x Digital re-branded Trinitron 21" (matched pair) The 19" and 21" monitors can each run at 1600x1200 and the 21s have dual input, which is nice. I used the 21s in a TwinView setup on my main Ubuntu-based workstation at home for years until I got a LCD last Christmas. I have power/video cables for all of them, so they are ready to roll. I had them up on craigslist to try and sell them, but haven't gotten any hits and it's just time to clear out the space. The catch is that you would need to come pick them up from me in Uxbridge. Please respond to me privately so we don't spam the list. Thanks, Jared Greenwald

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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 70, Issue 17
by Steven Greenberg Aug. 20, 2009

Aug. 20, 2009

The issue with 60 Hz and the LCD was not flicker. I mentioned visual defects. I meant things like missing pixels. I had to use the analog connection because that was all that was available on the PC that I had just bought. I just looked at the setting now to see if I had really chosen 120 Hz which is still a harmonic of 60Hz. Unfortunately for looking at the setting, I moved three years ago from the house where the office had fluorescent lights. When I set up my computer again in the new house, I must have somehow gone back to the default 60 Hz. There are no fluorescent lights around and there are none of the visual defects I saw in the other house. When I brought my unit back to Fry's electronics they had no such problem in the store from the ceiling lights which were a good 15 or more feet away. They gave me a replacement anyway just to keep me happy. I had not even suspected fluorescent lights at that point. When I got the replacement home, it had the same problem as the first one. I was about to give up on Samsung in disgust when I asked around at work if anybody could figure out the problem. Our computer hardware support person mentioned the fluorescent light idea. I went home, changed the frequency and the problems disappeared. The fluorescent lights in my home office were probably only 4 feet from the LCD. The cause of the problem might have been something completely different, but I cannot come up with another explanation that fits the observations. Maybe I had sympathetic 60 Hz fluctuations from my neighbor's ham radio. Whatever was the cause, getting away from 60Hz seemed to be the solution. /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: http://www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

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Here I am begging again.
by Ken Jones Aug. 20, 2009

Aug. 20, 2009

I have not been making the meetings. That does not mean my SUN ULTRA1 running Aurora Linux can no longer create 'interesting' problems. This time the second SUN ULTRA running Gentoo is in cahoots. I have a new SAMSUNG SyncMaster flat screen monitor. I have attached this monitor via a Belkin SUN adapter to my ULTRA1's. It does not work!! The monitor flashes a little square window saying something about "Not optimum mode". It feels that it has not been configured correctly. The buttons on the right of the monitor, which are there to set it up, also do not work with the SUN's is attached. The monitor works fine with PC type machinery. The Belkin worked fine with a regular old tube monitor. (I have not dug out the old monitor to check whether it still works. I suspect it does.) Anybody have any ideas? Ken Jones kjones(a)ziplink.net

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Re: [Wlug] Here I am begging again.
by Steven Greenberg Aug. 20, 2009

Aug. 20, 2009

I have a Samsung SyncMaster 204B, but it is on a Windows PC. As for the frequency, 60 Hz is not good in close proximity to fluorescent lights. I had a lot of visual defects in two different units, until I changed to 120 Hz(I think). /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: http://www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

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Book list with names.
by Tim Keller Aug. 20, 2009

Aug. 20, 2009

Please keep the other thread going, I'm going to use this thread so people can see what books have been taken. I went email by email and did it on a first come first serve basis... Here's the list with names: Hacking / Security Books: "Secrets of a super hacker" by The Knightmare. [S. Courtney] "Hackers Challenge: Test Your Incident Response Skills Using 20 Scenarios" (3rd Edition) [S. Courtney] "Hacking Exposed: Network Security Secrets & Solutions" "Web Hacking: Attacks and Defense" Math Books: [Frank Moody] "Discrete Mathematics and Its Applications" by Kenneth H. Rosen [Frank Moody] "Languages and Machines" Thomas A Sudkamp [Alex Haley] "A Primer for Calculus" Misc: [Alex Haley] "Latex" Second edition [Frank Moody] "The Latex Companion" [Frank Moody] "Mips RISC Architecture" "Database Systems" "Creating Web Pages with HTML" (3rd edition) [Frank Moody] "Operating Systems: Design and Implementation": Tanenbaum (includes Minux 2.0 disk!!) [Frank Moody] "PCI System Architecture" (Third Edition) Programming Books: [Alex Haley] "The C Primer" Third edition (this book is a bit dog eared) [Alex Haley] "A First Book of Ansi C" (a bit dog eared but excellent) "Tricks of the Game Programming Gurus" "Practical Programming in Tcl and Tk" "Virtual Reality Playhouse" "Creating Turbo C++ Games" (The disk for this book is long lost) [Keith Wright] "Linux Kernel Programming" (Third Edition) "Using Java 1.1" (Third Edition) "Using JavaBeans" (CD Long gone) [S. Courtney] "Sams' Teach Yourself C++ in 21 Days" (Second Edition) "Beginning Fedora 2" (Yeah it's 8 versions behind, but as a beginners guide to red hat linux systems, it's great) "User Interfaces In C++ And Object-Oriented Programming" by Mark Goodwin "Gardens of Imagination: Programming 3d Maze Games in C/C++" (Disk long gone) "NetWarriors In C Programming 3d Multiplaery games" (CD Long gone) [Ryan Pugatch] "Programming perl" (O'Reilly) [Ryan Pugatch] "Learning Perl" (O'Reilly) [Ryan Pugatch] "Perl by Example" (Ellie Quigley) Thanks, Tim. -- I am weary of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: [Wlug] Article on UNIX 40th anniverasry
by jbaillie＠netzero.com Aug. 20, 2009

Aug. 20, 2009

I actually have played pong on a monitor like that back in my DEC daze. What's even more amusing is the paper tape loader to the right of the monitor. It sure relieved you of toggling in the boot loader. We would actually repair some of the paper tapes. jb ---------- Original Message ---------- From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Subject: [Wlug] Article on UNIX 40th anniverasry Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:59:20 -0400 Good report by the BBC on development of UNIX. Has an interesting photo of a very old round green CRT monitor (in hexagonal case) at a workstation http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8205976.stm Enjoy, Liz J _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug ____________________________________________________________ Just drop it. Click here for free information on weight loss surgery! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxRbzrvjPpExUGZMIb6GPtO…

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Article on UNIX 40th anniverasry
by E Johnson Aug. 20, 2009

Aug. 20, 2009

Good report by the BBC on development of UNIX. Has an interesting photo of a very old round green CRT monitor (in hexagonal case) at a workstation http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8205976.stm Enjoy, Liz J

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