May 2003 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Computer 4 sale
by Marc Hughes 12 May '03

12 May '03

Dual PIII 1ghz Case + power 512mb ram 2 Hard Drives - 16gig + 8gig (or about that size) Sony IDE CDRW (fast, I think 48x,24x,16x) Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI Ethernet card $400 There will be 2 big gaping holes in the front if I can't find the 5 1/4 drive bay covers. No video card. Also, nVidia geForce 3 and above cards don't work with this motherboard. nVidia blames it on Tyan, and Tyan blames it on nVidia. My Radeon 7550 works just fine (but you don't get that). If you want, I have an old voodoo3 card which was in this at one point, it worked then, you can have it for free with the computer. Under Windows, I was never able to get USB working well (keyboard was fine, camera + mouse weren't). Under linux, usb worked 100%, so I'm assuming it's just my luck with windows and not the hardware. I will be wiping the drives clean before selling it, so you're on your own for an OS. I think one of the drives may be mounted "creatively" so be forewarned. If anyone wants it, hopefully we can arrange a drop-off & pickup, perhaps at a wlug meeting to avoid any shipping. Please send replies to me, and not the list. -Marc

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REMINDER: WLUG Meeting Thurs. May 15th 7:00 PM
by Andy Stewart 11 May '03

11 May '03

HI Everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Thursday, May 15th, 2003 at 7:00 PM in Olin Hall 107 (note new location!) on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA. At this meeting, our guest speaker will be Vince McHugh. Vince will talk to WLUG about the Common Unix Printing System (CUPS). The second part of Vince's talk will be about imaging and scanning. In this context, Vince will talk about how his company, NECS, is making Canon scanning products work in the Linux environment. Vince is a member of GNHLUG and is also a Systems Support Manager for NECS/Canon (the largest independent Canon dealer in New England). Vince has been involved with Linux for the last 4-5 years, and also possesses a Novell CNE and a Windows MCP. Light refreshments will be served at the meeting. Afterwards, we'll go to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. All are welcome! -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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Re: [Wlug] Redhat GUI performance
by twg3＠attbi.com 09 May '03

09 May '03

Some of this may also be related to the OS scheduler and VM configuration of the kernel - both of which have been improved in the new 2.5/2.6 kernel. The new shceduler is preemptive and does a better job of giving interactive processes a higher priority which makes the box "feel" faster. It is because of this feel, that I actually run a 2.2 kernel on my desktop/workstation since it feels faster than a 2.4 kernel (but does not support as much hardware which I can run 2.5 for if I need to). > > I've notice that when going from redhat 7.x to 8 or 9 you need a > minimum of 256M RAM. with 128M and running gnome there is way too > much swap space in use. > > Gnome and KDE are very bulky GUI's.. twm or blackbox are the slimest > and fastest. A friend of mine runs gentoo linux and it seems very > fast compared to redhat on the same box. > > type the "free" command at the prompt and see your memory usage also > "ps aumx" to see process memory usage. > > I would reccomend spending the roughly $40 to get a 256M upgrade for > your box. More RAM almost always helps. The os can keep more things > in memory and give you a faster response. I use 512M myself. > > hope this helps > > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey) wrote: > > > I have a general question about Linux performance... > > > > I am running Redhat 8.0 on a Dell 400MHz, 128MB system (OptiPlex) with an > > 8MB ATI Rage Pro Video card. I have a fairly basic workstation installation, > with > > SSHd, ftpd, telnetd, apached, and a couple other services running. Gnome > seems > > to take forever to open windows/applications. It can be on the order of 10 > seconds > > to a minute for some applications to come up. (Mozilla is one of the worst, > even > > to just bring up a local file as the home page for the browser) > > > > Is Gnome just a very slow GUI, or is there something that I can do to speed up > my > > system?? > > > > I know of several (5-6) people who have installed RedHat 7.2...8.0 on Dell and > Sony > > systems (all CPU are 866MHz+) with Gnome or KDE and the performance has been > > very slow in the GUI. Even with a higher end 1.5GHz CPU/512MB RAM system. > > > > Is there a Linux distribution that has a standard GUI that is very responsive? > Is Redhat > > just too bulky to run quickly, or do I need to download a better GUI for > Redhat? > > > > With Windows2000, this system was very responsive, and the other people I know > > about are running XP, which is so much faster that they run XP most of the > time now. > > > > Thanks, > > jeff > > > > > > > > -- > > €º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > Cell: 508-517-4819 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > €º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > > The hardest thing is to disguise your feelings when you put a lot of > relatives on the train for home. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Redhat GUI performance
by Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey) 09 May '03

09 May '03

I have a general question about Linux performance... I am running Redhat 8.0 on a Dell 400MHz, 128MB system (OptiPlex) with an 8MB ATI Rage Pro Video card. I have a fairly basic workstation installation, with SSHd, ftpd, telnetd, apached, and a couple other services running. Gnome seems to take forever to open windows/applications. It can be on the order of 10 seconds to a minute for some applications to come up. (Mozilla is one of the worst, even to just bring up a local file as the home page for the browser) Is Gnome just a very slow GUI, or is there something that I can do to speed up my system?? I know of several (5-6) people who have installed RedHat 7.2...8.0 on Dell and Sony systems (all CPU are 866MHz+) with Gnome or KDE and the performance has been very slow in the GUI. Even with a higher end 1.5GHz CPU/512MB RAM system. Is there a Linux distribution that has a standard GUI that is very responsive? Is Redhat just too bulky to run quickly, or do I need to download a better GUI for Redhat? With Windows2000, this system was very responsive, and the other people I know about are running XP, which is so much faster that they run XP most of the time now. Thanks, jeff

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RE: [Wlug] /tmp
by twg3＠attbi.com 09 May '03

09 May '03

Good advice. The X window system amd font server create its unix domain sockets as files under /tmp along with other programs, which will not show up doing "fuser -u /tmp/*". Also do a "netstat -pA" to get a list of all the unix domain sockets and look for files in /tmp. The -p will let you know which program you will break if you delete the socket, but just leave those files alone as they are not taking up any space on the file system, just an inode. > Gregory, > > You'll want to do a "fuser -u /tmp/*" and see what files are currently in > use. If it's currently not in use, it's probably safe to delete. > > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@rcn.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 12:14 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] /tmp > > > Is it safe to delete the contents of the /tmp directory to make some > space on the drive? > > Thanks. > > Greg > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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RE: [Wlug] /tmp
by Keller, Tim 08 May '03

08 May '03

Gregory, You'll want to do a "fuser -u /tmp/*" and see what files are currently in use. If it's currently not in use, it's probably safe to delete. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@rcn.com] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 12:14 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] /tmp Is it safe to delete the contents of the /tmp directory to make some space on the drive? Thanks. Greg _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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/tmp
by Gregory Avedissian 08 May '03

08 May '03

Is it safe to delete the contents of the /tmp directory to make some space on the drive? Thanks. Greg

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SuSE 8.2
by Michael Long 05 May '03

05 May '03

Howdy, I am looking for the zope rpm's, including the source rpm, from the SuSE 8.2 cd's. Would anyone have them? Thanks, Mike

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A bit off topic - phpnuke et al.
by Stephen C. Daukas 01 May '03

01 May '03

I'm posing this question becuase I'm betting some on this list have ventured down the path before me... I'm looking to avoid having to keep up on the latest and greatest web development stuff just to have a useful an interesting site. So, I'm looking for something like phpnuke to convert over to. I am aware of phpnuke, and other similar packages out there. I'm planning on downloading nuke to see what it can and can't do... I wouldn't mind having control over things providing I have the time, but am to the point where I do not want ot have to write code every time I get an idea. I already have a job... So, anyone have a favorite tool, collection of tools, etc., that they would recommend for a person site that supports logins, discussion threads, etc.? Steve

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CD burning question...
by Bill Mills-Curran 01 May '03

01 May '03

If I burn a CD from an ISO, should I be able to duplicate the MD5SUM: md5sum file.iso md5sum /dev/scd0 Right? (I think I'm getting some errors while burning.) Thanks, Bill

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