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CentOS Stream
by Chuck Anderson Sept. 24, 2024

Sept. 24, 2024

Here are two emails from the Fedora Development list about what I was just talking about: 1. CentOS Stream as a rolling release *of a stable RHEL branch*. 2. Idea to write an ansible script to upgrade to the point release of packages that RHEL 8.x ship with. ----- Forwarded message from Adam Williamson <adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org> ----- Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 08:52:09 -0800 From: Adam Williamson <adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org> To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora? Return-Path: devel-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Precedence: list Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 14:07 +0100, Jaroslav Prokop wrote: > > If I understood the announcement, it would be a kind of CentOS streams > is rolling release or a release with short > release interval. That does not make my job much easier as someone who > just sets up services and leaves it running. It's a rolling release *of a stable RHEL branch*. You're not getting radical new changes if you run CentOS Stream; you're just getting the changes you'd usually get in RHEL stable point releases (e.g. 8.1, 8.2 etc) but getting them early and as they are produced, rather than in periodic lumps). For some folks / maintenance styles this might still be an issue, but it should work OK in quite a lot of cases. It's not like you're running Rawhide. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- Forwarded message from Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster(a)gmail.com> ----- Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 17:08:19 +0000 From: Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster(a)gmail.com> To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora? Return-Path: devel-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Precedence: list Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 4:52 PM Adam Williamson <adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > For some folks / maintenance styles this might still be an issue, but > it should work OK in quite a lot of cases. It's not like you're running > Rawhide. For those that want the equivalent of a point release, I would think they should be able to write an ansible script to upgrade to the point release of packages that EL 8.x ship with. A little more work (for someone) to maintain, but I would not be surprised if someone (or a community) decided to take it one. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ----- End forwarded message -----

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old equipment - update
by Pete Wason Sept. 22, 2024

Sept. 22, 2024

Hi, again -- Tried to make it to the last meeting but was abducted, again. Most of the old equipment I had at work is gone. I was told to clear out the room and they found a STEM teacher at a local school who took it. This is what's left: Synology RS2416+ rackmount NAS w/ (2) RX1217 expansion units, AC + SAS cables - (36) 3.5" bays total (3) Dell PER805 2U rackmount servers (dual opteron) - w/ 1 set of rails, several new 2.5" SAS spares Dell PER300 1U rackmount server (dual xeon) - w/ rails, and a bunch of 3.5" SAS HDDs (pulls and new) Dell PER415 1U rackmount server (opteron) - w/ separate H700 HBA+cables, may have 8TB SATA HDD pulls installed (?) (I was unable to figure out how to make this thing do RAID10; the adaptor itself is worth something) Various 3.5" HDD pulls of various brands and sizes from 250GB to 2TB (2) Dell docking stations with AC adaptors Dell dock/monitor stand w/ no display panel (3) Dell monitor stands w/o panels Best offer. Anything left by the end of the month will go to recycling. Pete

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oops, forgot these..
by Pete Wason Sept. 21, 2024

Sept. 21, 2024

I also still have the two Celeros rackmount storage arrays, 32-bays each, one Xeon-based, the other Opteron-based, with rails. BO! Thx Pete

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Oops! The meeting is also virtual!!
by Tim Keller Sept. 16, 2024

Sept. 16, 2024

The meeting will also be online at our usual Jitsi location! https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder! Meeting tomorrow Sept 12th, 2024!
by Tim Keller Sept. 11, 2024

Sept. 11, 2024

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting tomorrow! Time: 7pm Date: September 12th, 2024 Physical Location: 44 Portland St, Worcester MA Topic(s): Last month we dove into the history of Linux distros. I thought this month we might talk a bit more about some more practical linux desktop stuff. How to install software, window managers, etc. Then I thought we might dive into filesystems with a foray into LVM. Afterwards we'll head out for dinner and keep up the conversation! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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We've got a meeting next week!
by Tim Keller Sept. 8, 2024

Sept. 8, 2024

It's been an exciting month in the FOSS world! YubiKey clone attacks, Ubuntu upgrade breakage! Microsoft has decided it's win 11 AI recall feature can't be removable.. I suspect lots of people are going to get real interested in linux.. bcachefs drama. If someone has a topic they've like to talk to about, let me know! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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I put the slides I'm working on out where people can find them!
by Tim Keller Aug. 9, 2024

Aug. 9, 2024

https://github.com/turbofx/tao_of_linux Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Meeting tomorrow!! Topic: The tao of linux.
by Tim Keller Aug. 8, 2024

Aug. 8, 2024

Hey Everybody! Date: August 8th @ 7PM Location: Techncopia, 44 Portland st. Worcester MA Virtual location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA We've got a meeting tomorrow! I'm planning on giving a short talk on the history of linux, how we got here, where are we going, why it matters and delve into some unix history and philosophy.. i.e. "everything is (mosly) a file.. no really.." I fully expect all the usual suspects will also have interesting tidbits to add, corrections to make and generally it should be an interesting talk to help people new to the FOSS world and in particular the linux world why we love linux and why we think it's great. As usual we'll head off for dinner afterwards and keep the conversation going! I hope to see you there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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We've got meeting on the 8th of August!
by Tim Keller Aug. 8, 2024

Aug. 8, 2024

Hey Everybody! We've got a meeting and a topic idea! We've got a meeting on the 8th! During the last couple of meetings, we've had a couple of new users come by and it was clear to me that we were going into the higher level linux concepts, many of which were flying over their heads. I was thinking it might be really good to have a back to basics wlug meeting, where we get in get into unix philosophy, what a distro is, what parts make up a distro, common things people deal with, etc. Yeah, nah? I'm also trying to turn a page here and start the conversation about the meeting more than say.. 2 days before the meeting so the meetings can continue to have their ruckus nature, but actually have some bit of structure! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Happy Sysadmin day!
by Tim Keller July 26, 2024

July 26, 2024

Happy Sysadmin day! I hope your day has been less eventful than mine! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Where do I put mount script?
by Kevin Stratton July 24, 2024

July 24, 2024

I have a NAS that I am able to mount using NFS and I suspect that I can also mount as CIFS. I am currently using multicast DNS addresses in the addresses in my mount command and I do not want to use the numeric style IP addresses that seems to be required for /etc/fstab. Does anyone have suggestions where to place this mount command script? This command seems to needs root access, which may limit where the script with command will be placed.

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Reminder!! WLUG meeting July 11th 2024 @7pm: Location: Technocopia!
by Tim Keller July 13, 2024

July 13, 2024

Hey everybody! We've got a WLUG meeting this Thursday at technocopia! Time: 7pm Date: July 11th 2024 Location: 44 Portland St. Worcester MA Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic(s): SSH exploits There's been plenty of talk about Ubuntu upgrades, it's worth talking about various backup strategies and options that are out there. If people have other things they want to talk about, by all means! I've continued to tinker with the LLM stuff and I'll have that laptop with me as well. After the meeting we'll head off for dinner to keep the conversation going. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Running a bit late, be cool!
by Tim Keller July 11, 2024

July 11, 2024

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Reminder!! WLUG meeting July 11th 2024 @7pm: Location: Technocopia!
by Tim Keller July 11, 2024

July 11, 2024

Hey everybody! We've got a WLUG meeting this Thursday at technocopia! Time: 7pm Date: July 11th 2024 Location: 44 Portland St. Worcester MA Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic(s): SSH exploits There's been plenty of talk about Ubuntu upgrades, it's worth talking about various backup strategies and options that are out there. If people have other things they want to talk about, by all means! I've continued to tinker with the LLM stuff and I'll have that laptop with me as well. After the meeting we'll head off for dinner to keep the conversation going. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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DECStation 3100 on a RPi2040...
by John Stoffel July 7, 2024

July 7, 2024

My first real Unix workstation, reduced. https://github.com/rscott2049/DECstation2040 This brings back memories. I think they had 8mb of RAM and 525Mb 5 1/4" full height hard drives in external SCSI enclosures way back in the late 80s....

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You-Do-It Founder
by gmcaplan＠gmcaplan.org July 6, 2024

July 6, 2024

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/bostonglobe/name/john-ahigian-obituary…

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You-Do-It Electronics is dead, long live You-Do-It Electronics
by David Glaser July 2, 2024

July 2, 2024

You-Do-It Electronics went out of business. It was a very nice resource. Does anyone know of a similar electronics store that is within a 1 hour drive of Woosta? -David

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Seeking Ubuntu Help
by gmcaplan＠gmcaplan.org July 2, 2024

July 2, 2024

I hope one or more of you can help me. I upgraded today from Ubuntu 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS on my desktop computer. (I know I am way behind, but I can do this only in the summer etc., etc.) I used the built-in Ubuntu update feature. It worked better than I expected and took less that two hours. The data backups I did ahead of time took much longer. Anyway, 20.04 is running but I have two problems. Number One: Many terminal commands give this message: Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-4.15.0-212-generic Processing was halted because there were too many errors. W: Can not find PkgVer for 'linux-image-extra-4.4.0-122-generic' E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) In particular, here is what happens when I try to remove 4.4.0-212. sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-extra-4.4.0-212-generic Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package linux-image-extra-4.4.0-212-generic E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'linux-image-extra-4.4.0-212-generic' E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-extra-4.4.0-212-generic' Number Two: I cannot get audio out of Line Out to my speakers. And I cannot get audio into Line In to make recordings. I *do* get audio from the audio output on my HDMI monitor. This might be related to the need for codecs, but when I try various terminal commands to load more codecs, I get problem Number 1 ! Some of what I read on the Web mentions tex files that could cause Number 1. I do have TeXstudio installed. I tried to uninstall texstudio and texlive, but when I do that, I get the message ant Number One! I'd appreciate any help or suggestions. Thank you. George Caplan email: gmcaplan(a)gmcaplan.org Phone: 978-263-5288 (landline, no texts)

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Problems Solved
by gmcaplan＠gmcaplan.org June 27, 2024

June 27, 2024

I used grub-customizer to remove image 212 from grub. hat solved the error problem. Then a removed and re-installed alsa-base and pulseaudio. Now sound works.

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Re: LLM's and graphical interfaces.
by Jansen Smith June 25, 2024

June 25, 2024

(can this email address be added to the mailing list?) the self-hosted webui i use is here: https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui ollama! https://github.com/ollama/ollama here's the docker for ollama: https://hub.docker.com/r/ollama/ollama On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 5:32 PM Kevin Harrington <mad.hephaestus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > Date: Tue, May 14, 2024, 4:49 PM > Subject: [WLUG] LLM's and graphical interfaces. > To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > Cc: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > > > A couple meetings ago Jansen showed up a really cool graphical interface > for LLM. > > Does anybody remember what it was? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/XVOQB… >

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Reminder: Meeting June 13th 2024 at 7PM! Topic: Your own personal LLM!
by Tim Keller June 21, 2024

June 21, 2024

Hey Gang! We've got a meeting tomorrow!! Date/Time: June 13th 2024 @ 7pm. Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St, 6th floor, Worcester MA. Virtual Location: (back to the old haunt) https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA <https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA> Considering how much AI has been in the news, I thought it would be cool to do a talk/demo about setting up your own personal Large Language Model! I'll either use my laptop of scrounge up a piece of good enough hardware to show it off.. hell I could even spin up a droplet and run it somewhere.. we'll figure that out. Jansen sent me some links to the cool stuff he uses and I'll definitely be leaning on his expertise and others. Here's what he wrote: the self-hosted webui i use is here: https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui ollama! https://github.com/ollama/ollama here's the docker for ollama: https://hub.docker.com/r/ollama/ollama I've experimented with the ollama models and they're cool. As usual we'll nerd out, wrestle with some LLM stuff and have a great time. Afterwards we'll head off to the Boyton or somewhere else for some dinner and keep the geekery in full swing. I'll bring some snacks and refreshments as well. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Hey Everybody! WLUG Meeting this week!
by Tim Keller June 11, 2024

June 11, 2024

Hey Everybody! We've got a WLUG meeting on the 8th! I know weirdly early in the month because the 1st landed on a Thursday! If things go well, I *might* have a Pi cluster using compute cards in it! I'll keep you all posted! As for the meeting details: Time: 7pm Date: 2/8/2024 Location: Techncopia Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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We've got a meeting next week on the 13th!
by Tim Keller June 10, 2024

June 10, 2024

Hey Gang! We've got a meeting next week! Note, I won't be using our own Jitsi server but going to back to the old one since we've had so many issues. If there's a topic that people would like us to tackle, I'd be up for it! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Re: Hierarchical note taking, Joplin, Trilium, browser extensions, etc..
by Tim Keller June 4, 2024

June 4, 2024

Sadly no. I've looked at DokuWiki a couple of times. The problem is this. I'm lazy. The lowest barrier to entry is simply a directory called "Notes" with a bunch of text files. Being text and using a unix-like system, I've got tools like grep to find stuff. I figure the next lowest thing is some program that lets me take notes that I can then organize into some index and search against it as well. Beyond that now it becomes hosted somewhere, etc. Tim. On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 10:35 AM Mike Peckar <mpeckar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Tim, > > I might have missed it, but I'm curious if you came to any conclusions > about these tools. > > thanks, > Mike > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 9:31 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> At last night's meeting, a new attendee brought up a problem she was >> having and one of the solutions that got bandied about was Joplin. >> >> After doing some research, this might be my new note taking app. >> Another very interesting FOSS tool out there is called "Trilium" >> https://github.com/zadam/trilium >> >> As much as I like google's keep.. I'm fully aware that google capable of >> just pulling the rug out from under me in a moment's notice. >> >> I've spun up U22.04.3 server and I'm going to tinker with Joplin and >> possibly Trilium and let people know what I think of them. >> >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/UDTAP… >> > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Flipping pages: new nftable vulnerabilities found..
by Tim Keller June 4, 2024

June 4, 2024

I suspect new patches are in the words even now.. https://pwning.tech/nftables/ Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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