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Re: [Wlug] REPLY TO FROM (!!!)
by ccb＠acm.org Aug. 20, 2001

Aug. 20, 2001

> Of the 15 or so mailing lists that I'm regularly a participant on, there > are NO lists which are setup so replies go directly to senders instead of > the list as a whole. Replying by default only to senders hinders one of the > primary benefits of participation - that of sharing info. It is generally > considered "the way to go" to have replies default to the whole list with > strong objections made every time it is suggested that it be changed. So be it. I'll hack my MUA to suit my own tastes. ccb -- Charles C. Bennett, Jr. VA LiNUX Systems Systems Engineer, Northeast US 25 Burlington Mall Rd., Suite 300 +1 617 543-6513 Burlington, MA 01803-4145 ccb(a)valinux.com www.valinux.com

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Re: [Wlug] Lart
by ccb＠acm.org Aug. 17, 2001

Aug. 17, 2001

Ah - "Clue Stick" ! ccb

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A fun little Friday diversion
by Theo Van Dinter Aug. 17, 2001

Aug. 17, 2001

This isn't specifically Linux related, but it does involve penguins: http://www.bigidea.com/penguins/kids/k_spacedpenguin.htm It's a strangely addictive Shockwave game. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Astronomers say the universe is finite, which is a comforting thought for those people who can't remember where they leave things." - Unknown

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Lart
by Adam ＠ Oak Aug. 17, 2001

Aug. 17, 2001

Not L.A.R.T. ;) I found the project to for the small open source hardware project I remembered at last night's meeting: http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ -Adam end ___________________________________________________ Adam S. Keck | | 593 Centre St. | "Got BSD?" (my current toy) Jamaica Plain, Boston | Ma, 02130 | ---------------------------------------------------

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REMINDER: Next meeting on Thursday
by Andy Stewart Aug. 16, 2001

Aug. 16, 2001

HI gang, The next WLUG meeting will be held this week on Thursday, August 16th at 7:00 PM in "the usual place". Please check the WLUG website for more information. At this meeting, the speaker will be Brian Conway, who will be talking about the use of DVDs with Linux. Bring your favorite DVD and maybe we can play it on a Linux system! After the meeting, we'll be going to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer and anybody who comes to the meeting is welcome to join us. Come on down...it should be a good time. Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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More stuff!
by Theo Van Dinter Aug. 16, 2001

Aug. 16, 2001

Sorry for the short notice, but we found some more stuff while gathering equipment for tonight's meeting! If you're interested in something for the meeting, please let me know before 5:30pm. hardware: Adtran DSU II AR (CSU/DSU) 5 dec hubs/repeaters (only 3 power supplies) 3 button mouse P133 CPU w/ fan random sealed card (NVRAM board I think) and memory for a PIX 10000 firewall. software: (windows, sorry...) shrinkwrapped box, "CD-ROM Bundle" - "Encyclopedia 6 Titles Bundle: (1-4) Mindscape CD Deluxe 4 Pack includes: * Chessmaster 4000, * Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing! v3.0, * U.S. Atlas v5.0, * World Atlas v5.0, (5) The San Diego Zoo: The Animals! v2.0, (6) Compton's Encyclopedia 1997 book: Computers, Ethics & Social Values edited by Johnson and Nissenbaum. c.1995 Prentice Hall -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Linux: Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste. (By komarimf(a)craft.camp.clarkson.edu, Mark Komarinski)

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RE: [Wlug] Cheap RAM ...
by Keller, Tim Aug. 16, 2001

Aug. 16, 2001

The "GENERIC" manufacturer scares me a bit... Though on the same vein, I saw that Short-circuit city is selling "Centon" 256MB PC100 ram for 44.99 after rebate. Once again, I'm not sure if Centon is any better than GENERIC. Though for 120 bucks I could have 2gig of ram in my machine (provided my motherboard would support more than 128mb per slot)! Hmmm... now I just need a server motherboard that has like 12 memory slots!!! (kneeds hands together thinking about having to turn on BIGMEM stuff in kernel :-P) I went looking on http://www.thechipmerchant.com/19633-0.html (which I've had great luck with buying stuff) and it looks like there selling something comparable for 50.00 bucks... however they gave specific chipsets it would work with. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 4:59 PM To: Worcester Linux User's Group Subject: [Wlug] Cheap RAM ... A friend sent this to me and I thought others would be interested: http://store.ccraft.net/PPmain.asp?ItemCode=3398&Action=Mostrar&msk=PD 512MB PC133 for $30 each. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Duct tape is like the force; it has a light side & a dark side, and it holds the universe together." - Zen Musings _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Cheap RAM ...
by Theo Van Dinter Aug. 15, 2001

Aug. 15, 2001

A friend sent this to me and I thought others would be interested: http://store.ccraft.net/PPmain.asp?ItemCode=3398&Action=Mostrar&msk=PD 512MB PC133 for $30 each. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Duct tape is like the force; it has a light side & a dark side, and it holds the universe together." - Zen Musings

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Extra Hardware
by Brian Niece Aug. 15, 2001

Aug. 15, 2001

It is with a heavy heart that I make the following announcement: After seven enjoyable and educational years, I am shutting down my last Linux computer. After taking out the parts that I need for my zippy new Athlon and donating most of the computer to my employer, I will have the following left over. I don't feel like dealing with Ebay, so I will gladly give them to the first respondents who contact me and are willing to pick them up. The items are: 1 Seagate Medalist Pro 1080, 1 Gb SCSI hard drive 1 Seagate Medalist Pro 2160, 2 Gb SCSI hard drive 1 Sony CDU76S, 4x SCSI CD-ROM Drive 1 50 pin internal SCSI hard drive cable. -- Brian K. Niece, Ph.D. Assistant Professor of Chemistry Assumption College 500 Salisbury St. Worcester, MA 01609-1296 508-767-7209

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DVD's to bring?
by Keller, Tim Aug. 15, 2001

Aug. 15, 2001

Hey All, For the DVD demo thingy, what are people going to bring for DVD's? I'll bring "Ghost in the Shell". The thing that makes this DVD so special is that for some reason the authors chose not to encrypt the disk using CSS. Its the only non encrypted DVD I've ever come across. Tim.

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REMINDER: Next meeting on Thursday
by Andy Stewart Aug. 14, 2001

Aug. 14, 2001

HI gang, The next WLUG meeting will be held this week on Thursday, August 16th at 7:00 PM in "the usual place". Please check the WLUG website for more information. At this meeting, the speaker will be Brian Conway, who will be talking about the use of DVDs with Linux. Bring your favorite DVD and maybe we can play it on a Linux system! After the meeting, we'll be going to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer and anybody who comes to the meeting is welcome to join us. Come on down...it should be a good time. Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

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Network Install
by Colin Novick Aug. 13, 2001

Aug. 13, 2001

I freely confess my inexperience. I have done a number of successful CDROM installs from Mandrake 6.1-7.1-7.2. I have an old box I scrounged but without a servicable CDROM drive. I want to install Linux on it, but need to do a Network Install. I am not finding detailed documentation on this and will continue to hunt. If anyone has a hint as to where to look or experience to kick me in the pants in the right direction I would be terribly grateful. Thanks Colin

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phpgroupware?
by Wesley Allen Aug. 13, 2001

Aug. 13, 2001

Greetings, We've just set up a new mail server here where I work and we want to get phpgroupware up as a web-client. Here is my question, does anyone know of any way we can set phpgroupware to auto-sync linux users with the mysql database backend? Any info would be useful, I don't want to have to set everyone up twice. Wes

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Re: [Wlug] Question
by Wesley Allen Aug. 12, 2001

Aug. 12, 2001

Do a home network and hack it together. The sugguestion about getting involved in help-desk work is really good too because all of the sudden you HAVE to learn all this stuff so you can help people (though you may go insane doing it, "I've got 600 messages in my "saved" box on the mail server, should I have backed these up on my local machine?"). If you've got a friend who is a system admin start talking to them as you hack your network, this will have to be a good friend who will not mind giving you advice for free that he charges other people for; but friends can put into English what man pages can only put into "networkspeak", without friends, I'd never even tried to learn linux and would still be a slave of Microsoft. Wes ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:57:27 -0400 >On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 02:25:15PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: >> I've seen good comments made about: >> >> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471345865/qid=997293880/sr=1-24/ref… > >Also ISBN 0-201-43319-2 > >-- >Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 15 >Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | >P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the >world like English did. Er, *as* English did... > -- Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393(a)wall.org> >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Problem with X
by Long, Mike Aug. 10, 2001

Aug. 10, 2001

Hi All, I have XFree36 3.x installed and can use startx to launch icewm. When I install KDE2 and run startx it crashes with the following (paraphrased) message: ksmserver: Error in loading shared library libGL.so.1 ksplash: Error in loading shared library libGL.so.1 kdeinit: Error in loading shared library libGL.so.1 knotify: Error in loading shared library libGL.so.1 grep /root/.kde2/.root_warning file not found. I tried 'startx icewm' with the same results As soon as I uninstall KDE2 startx works again. Why would startx be broken even if I am not starting KDE2. Thanks, Mike

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Re: [Wlug] embedded QT
by Wesley Allen Aug. 10, 2001

Aug. 10, 2001

I'm glad they've got a spreadsheet. Now...does anyone have a serial cable I can borror until I convince my wife that spending $30.00 so I can hack my iPAQ is a good idea? OR...has anyone installed familiar/qte through an usb cable, and the handhelds.org site is just wrong when it says it can't be done? Wes ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Brad Noyes <maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 11:54:41 -0400 >Hi Wesley, >I installed QTe on my ipaq a few weeks ago. I does in fact, >have a spread sheet. I haven't really used it that much, but >its there. You might be able to get an idea on how it looks >and feels if you try to set up QTe for your PC before you >actually install it (http://qpe.sourceforge.net/x86.html) >I think QTe is great for my ipaq. There are few things missing, >for example i can't figure out how to get the databook to >remind me of appointments. I haven't tried to irsync with a >plam yet, so i can't say if it works or not. > >good luck with installing, >--Brad > >On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 07:57:06AM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: >> It looks like I'm finally going to have time to go out and >> pick up a serial cable so I can get brother Bill off of my >> iPAQ. But I've got a question for anyone who has done this >> ahead of me: >> >> Are there any speadsheets that have either been created for >> familiar linux or Embedded QT? The QTpalmtop web site has >> got some screen shots, and one has a link to a spreadsheet, >> but they don't mention it and I can't find the package >> anywhere. Unfortuately, I've got to have a spreadsheet so I >> can keep track of hours and expenses and such, so I'm kinda >> stuck, maybe I shoulda gotten a vr3? >> >> Also, are there any utilities out there that would allow me >> to do irsync with palms? > >> > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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embedded QT
by Wesley Allen Aug. 9, 2001

Aug. 9, 2001

It looks like I'm finally going to have time to go out and pick up a serial cable so I can get brother Bill off of my iPAQ. But I've got a question for anyone who has done this ahead of me: Are there any speadsheets that have either been created for familiar linux or Embedded QT? The QTpalmtop web site has got some screen shots, and one has a link to a spreadsheet, but they don't mention it and I can't find the package anywhere. Unfortuately, I've got to have a spreadsheet so I can keep track of hours and expenses and such, so I'm kinda stuck, maybe I shoulda gotten a vr3? Also, are there any utilities out there that would allow me to do irsync with palms?

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Local Linux PC companies
by mike Aug. 9, 2001

Aug. 9, 2001

I'm looking for recommendations on local (Worcester to Natick, Westboro to Leominster, etc.) Linux-centric PC companies to buy an Athlon PC. If they only sell Windows systems I'll take those recommendations too if it's a build to order site. Thanks... Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Wlug] Local Linux PC companies
by Wesley Allen Aug. 9, 2001

Aug. 9, 2001

I'll grab the name later, but there is a place on route 30 in Westborough that will build a PC to spec and put whatever distro you want on it. They're primarily a windows office, but when I asked about Linux they said, "Sure, we've been getting more and more requests for Linux lately and we'll put whatever you want on it!" This makes me happy. Like I said, I'll get the name/number later, but take rt 30 from 9 into town and you can't miss it on your left (about 100 yards before the traffic circle). Wes ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: mike <mhardy_mail(a)yahoo.com> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 17:43:34 -0700 (PDT) >I'm looking for recommendations on local (Worcester to >Natick, Westboro to Leominster, etc.) Linux-centric PC >companies to buy an Athlon PC. If they only sell >Windows systems I'll take those recommendations too if >it's a build to order site. > >Thanks... > >Mike > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger >http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Question
by Pierce C. Barnard Aug. 8, 2001

Aug. 8, 2001

Hi, I am interested in becoming a network administrator. Can anyone give me some information on becoming an admin?

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RE: [Wlug] Question
by Simoncini, Matthew Aug. 8, 2001

Aug. 8, 2001

I have been working as a Unix Sys Admin for Accenture (formerly Andersen Consulting) for the last few months, although I have been with the company for 3 years. I agree with what Gary said and additionally would add getting your foot in the door working at a helpdesk somewhere. I know from experience that most tech companies will look within before hiring from the outside to fill positions. Willingness to learn, adapt to change, and good teamwork skills are also highly desired when companies look to hire. Good luck. Matthew -----Original Message----- From: Gary J. Hanley [mailto:ghanley@world.std.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:40 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Question Well, I'm not a Network Admin, but I would suggest the cheapest way to start is to build a home network with a hub and at least cheap 3 PCs doing different functions to serve the network (DNS, Sendmail, etc.) Get some networking books and tweak, tweak, tweak! After that you can either build up your network with more hardware or take mid-to-senior level classes. Either way it will start to cost you more money as you progress. :-| -- Gary On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Pierce C. Barnard wrote: > Hi, I am interested in becoming a network administrator. Can anyone give > me some information on becoming an admin? _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] System crash
by Long, Mike Aug. 7, 2001

Aug. 7, 2001

I am running SuSE 7.0 with the 2.2.18? kernel. I have not compiled my own kernel before. Last night when attempting to upgrade to XFree86 4.1 I somehow f**ked up my configuration and can now only run X as root and I don't know what changed to cause that to happen. I had backed up my entire partition so the original configuration files are around but I am not sure which files I should restore to get back to my original configuration. I am contemplating upgrading to SuSE 7.2 with the 2.4.x kernel and reformatting my partition to be a Rieserfs file system. Is this configuration likely to be any more stable than my current configuration? -----Original Message----- From: Ben Dow [mailto:bdow@WPI.EDU] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 10:43 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] System crash Well, XFree86 4.1 is out, which is what I was referring to, but as far as I know, that's a really well-supported video card (the chipset's been around forever)... what kernel are you running? Is it a stock Suse kernel? Do you know how to compile your own, if it might help? On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Michael Long wrote: > I saw on the suse website where there is an updated version of XFree86 > (4.0.2) as well as an updated xloader and xmodules packages. I will be > installing these and see if this solves the problem. > > As for my system components: > ABIT KT7-RAID Motherboard w/ an Athlon 800 > ATI Rage 128 video card > SoundBlaster Live > 2 Realtek RTL8139B ethernet cards > 2 DiamondMax Hard drives > Toshiba CD-RW/DVD-ROM #SD-R1002 > > The output from lspci is: > 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0305 (rev 02) > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 8305 > 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super] (rev 22) > 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] (rev 10) > 00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10) > 00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10) > 00:07.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev > 30) > 00:09.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics Venus Modem (V90, > 56KFlex) > 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) > 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) > 00:0f.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10000 (rev 08) > 00:0f.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! (rev 08) > 00:13.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 > (rev 03) > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF > > > On Monday 06 August 2001 11:34, you wrote: > > I've seen this kind of thing happen for 2 reasons I've been able to figure > > out on my systems... after running XFree86 4 for a few minutes with my > > Diamond (since taken over by S3, now SonicBlue... it's so hard to keep > > track) Stealth III S540 (based on the Savage 4 or 4+, I think), the system > > will lock up hard... 3.3.6 was no problem, and I haven't tried the latest > > version of X, which is now supposed to have special drivers for that > > chipset, and it tends to happen much more often than once every few days, > > but since I know nothing about your system, I thought I'd mention it... > > The other thing that seems to cause it is a lot of hard disk activity on > > an Intel PIIX3 controller (for an old Pentium/166). Copying large files > > to/from a Reiserfs partition with DMA enabled seems to really do the trick > > (I should probably send in a kernel bug report, really)... but that's > > another possibility, I guess. Again, tell us some more about your system > > (lspci often gives useful information). > > Now to wake up. > > > > Ben > > > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Long, Mike wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have been having problems with my system locking to the point where I > > > needed to press the reset button to recycle the box. Well, this happened > > > again and this time things are not working properly after bringing the > > > system back up. I have been able to start networking services and I can > > > start KDE desktop but none of my X applications will run. Now I have > > > several questions: > > > > > > 1) What type of problems could have been created by an improper shutdown > > > of the box? > > > 2) Will reinstalling KDE fix this problem? > > > 3) How do I go about figuring out what is causing my machine to lock up? > > > It is happening frequently (every few days) > > > and when I am doing different things. I have not been able to > > > determine a pattern. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Secure Modems (A little off topic)
by cc.noyes Aug. 7, 2001

Aug. 7, 2001

Does anyone know of a secure modem(s) that does MD4, MD5 or SHA1 authentication? They would be running with UnixWare and Solaris platforms. I would guess that they're probably O/S independent. Thanks, Chuck

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System crash
by Long, Mike Aug. 7, 2001

Aug. 7, 2001

Hi all, I have been having problems with my system locking to the point where I needed to press the reset button to recycle the box. Well, this happened again and this time things are not working properly after bringing the system back up. I have been able to start networking services and I can start KDE desktop but none of my X applications will run. Now I have several questions: 1) What type of problems could have been created by an improper shutdown of the box? 2) Will reinstalling KDE fix this problem? 3) How do I go about figuring out what is causing my machine to lock up? It is happening frequently (every few days) and when I am doing different things. I have not been able to determine a pattern. Thanks, Mike

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Possible topic for the next meeting?
by Brian J. Conway Aug. 6, 2001

Aug. 6, 2001

Greetings, I don't know whether there is a topic for the next meeting and it just hasn't made it onto the web page or not, but I figured I'd offer a suggestion to the group. Is anyone interested on seeing a presentation on the various DVD players that are available for Linux along with their setup. hardware support, and configuration, etc? I'm headed to the west coast next week for a 7-day Alaskan cruise, and I really need something to do for the 6-hour plane ride each way other than watching Top Gun. I'd be happy to do so, but I figured I'd ask the group instead of just mailing Andy as "installing and running a couple of apps in Linux" might be on the light side for a presentation. If people are interested and there's already something for this month, just let me know and I'll write something up. Just my two cents, let me know if there's any interest (this hasn't already been done, right?). Brian J. Conway dogbert(a)clue4all.net Geek for hire: http://clue4all.net/resume Power Mac G4 Cube. Some of us are getting laid tonight. (http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20010509)

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