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WLUG Meeting July 14th at the Hudson Public Library!
by Tim Keller 14 Jul '22

14 Jul '22

Hey Gang, We've got a meeting tomorrow night at the Hudson Public Library! As a quick show of hands, who'll be coming out? I'm debating doing it online since I'm a bit late in sending out the notice. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Emeritus WPI CS Faculty member looking for Linux Help in Worcester
by Michael Voorhis 07 Jul '22

07 Jul '22

I have an emeritus WPI Computer Science faculty member looking for Linux help in northwestern Worcester. They're having X11 issues, possibly driver-related, with an Ubuntu machine. I don't do on-the-side work like this, so I'm wondering if anyone here is interested in this sort of work? Thanks, --MCV.

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Reminder: Meeting tonight! Topic: Intel Pocket PC (and possible give away!)
by Tim Keller 03 Jul '22

03 Jul '22

Hey Everybody! We've got a meeting tonight!! Location: Hudson Public Library Time: 7pm Topic: Intel Pocket PC running RetroArch, etc. I was given four of these tiny pocket pc's. I'm going to run RetroArch on one and see what we get. I also think they'd be cool as a plex driver for a TV as well. Beyond that, there's a lot going on in the linux world, from the Intel pay for features stuff to the Nvidia opening up ( a tiny bit ). We should also talk about where we'd like to host meetings. I reached out to Frank and it looks like WPI is back on the table. Would that work better for people? See ya there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Change in meeting date: New meeting date: June 16th.
by Tim Keller 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Hey Everybody, I've got a schedule conflict for June 9th. I'm moving the meeting off a week to the 16th. We've got a Signal group going if you want to stop in and nerd out. https://signal.group/#CjQKIB4V_icJ7j26US0jRIAZoQtCbNXPk5LAm9qSyKGOhiEBEhBbD… Josh also created a quick topic suggestion box for meeting ideas: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeRO4YZLTmeYlzOXO7T7Fr8aQB4JfCRqhs… You need to sign in to google to use it.. I think it's worth talking to Chuck about modifying the website to have a suggestions box added.. who knows.. all ideas welcome. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder! WLUG Meeting tomorrow! May 12th, 2022, 7PM Hudson Public Library.
by Tim Keller 12 May '22

12 May '22

Hey Everybody! Sorry for the late meeting reminder! Yes, we do have a meeting tomorrow at the Hudson Public Library! Time: 7PM I'm hoping to be there in person, but I may have to attend virtually. I'm floundering a bit on a topic at the moment, if someone has an idea, please let me know. Next month I'd like to get Dick to talk to about the photo editing software. Zori has also expressed an interest in talking about TrueNAS. TrueNAS Scale is also an interesting product as well. So this meeting might be an open topic meeting. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Website down..
by Tim Keller 09 May '22

09 May '22

The website seems to be offline, looking into it.. No worries, there's still a meeting next Thursday! Thanks, Tim.

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Signal Messenger App Update
by THE HAMMER 04 May '22

04 May '22

Thank all for the great info. I've started using it and so far, I am a happy camper. Ron

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Signal Messenger App
by hammerron 03 May '22

03 May '22

Hey Gang, Does any one use Signal? Wondering if anyone has and thoughts on it good or bad. I'm trying to decide if I should install or not. Ron

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Snaps and the future of Ubuntu
by Joshua Stone 30 Apr '22

30 Apr '22

Last week marked the release of Ubuntu 22.04 LTS <https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-22-04-lts-released>, and so far it looks like some noteworthy improvements over the last LTS, notably Wayland being enabled for Intel/AMD users by default! There is no Wayland enablement for Nvidia users in 22.04 LTS though, and Pulseaudio is still the default audio server instead of the more modern pipewire+wireplumber that's been appearing in other distributions. It also appears that Firefox in 22.04 LTS is now installed as a snap at the request of Mozilla, and it drops the deb package from the official repo. Also interesting is that Ubuntu will continue to avoid supporting flatpak in favor of snap, as explained by Mark Shuttleworth: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/ubuntu-wont-support-flatpak-anytime-soon *>I can say right now Flatpak’s wouldn’t work for us. I don’t think they have the security story and I also don’t think they have the ability to deliver the same integrity of execution over time that Snaps have ‘cos we built those things into Snaps* >*I like the fact that people have a diversity of opinions on ways to solve the problem […] but I also think we’re going to deliver a far better experience to developers and to users if we concentrate our efforts around something we really can move forward.* I respectfully disagree with Shuttlesworth's appraisal, because it seems to contradict the overall experience I've seen from open source projects that have a tendency to package flatpaks and appimages which in turn tend to be well-supported across many distributions. While I understand that it's very easy to set up flatpak in Ubuntu <https://flatpak.org/setup/Ubuntu> these days, I'm still disappointed that this is the stance Ubuntu is taking because I feel that this doesn't quite align with the interests of the Linux community at large who're trying to improve the desktop experience. I worry that the distribution that got me into Linux years ago will increase fragmentation as time goes on if it continues to focus on its walled garden approach. What do you think? - Josh

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Uptime!
by Tim Keller 26 Apr '22

26 Apr '22

I just shutdown a linux machine with 3169 days of uptime! It had userland processes that have been actively running since 2013! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder! WLUG tonight! Hudson Public Library! Topic: Fotoxx!
by Tim Keller 14 Apr '22

14 Apr '22

Hey Everybody, This is the final reminder we've got a meeting tonight at 7pm! The speaker is going to be Dick Miller! He's going to be talking about Fotoxx! Fotoxx is an open source professional grade photo editing and collection manager! I hope to see you at the Hudson Public Library or online in our Jitsi Room! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Atlassian outage
by Tim Keller 14 Apr '22

14 Apr '22

What do people of the crazy atlassian outage? They're talking about some customers still being offline for two weeks! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder! WLUG Meeting April 14th, 2022! Topic: Fotoxx! Presenter: Dick Miller
by Tim Keller 12 Apr '22

12 Apr '22

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting on April 14th at 7pm! The topic is going to be "Fotoxx." This is a professional grade photo management/editing suite developed by Dick Miller. He's going to be showing off it's many amazing features! We'll be meeting at the Hudson Public Library in our usual space. We'll also be meeting online using Jitsi at our usual haunt as well ( https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA) Snacks and Refreshments will be provided and the whole presentation is going to be recorded and uploaded to our youtube channel! Afterwards we'll head off for dinner! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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April 14th Meeting Announcement! Topic: Fotoxx Presenter: Dick Miller
by Tim Keller 07 Apr '22

07 Apr '22

Hey Everybody, This month Dick Miller will be speaking about the amazing photo editing software called "Fotoxx". https://kornelix.net/fotoxx/fotoxx.html From their website: Fotoxx is a free open source *Linux* program for image editing and collection management. The goal is to meet the needs of serious photographers while remaining fast and easy to use. This presentation has been long in the making. Dick reached out to Chuck that due to scheduling conflicts more than a decade ago he was unable to schedule the presentation! Time: 7pm Date: April 14th, 2022 Location: Physical at the Hudson Public Library and virtual in our usual Jitsi haunt. https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA We'll be recording the session and posting it to the WLUG youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj-5C7Lr4B_2iFr9_vAnmaA As usual, we'll head off after the meeting for dinner and keep the conversation going. I really hope to see you there!! Later, Tim.

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Reminder: Meeting This Thursday at 7pm, Location: Hudson Public Library + online!
by Tim Keller 09 Mar '22

09 Mar '22

Have you cooked up a really cool gadget and upon looking at the huge mess of breadboard wires thought, "It sure would be great if I could turn that into a PCB, but alas, that software is expensive and proprietary and only runs on windows." KiCAD is an open source EDA (Electronic Design Automation) tool that allows you to take your pile o' wires and IC's and turn it into a PCB! Long time member John Stoffel and myself will show you how Thursday night at 7pm at the Hudson Public Library! We'll also have the meeting online at Jitsi and we'll be recording this whole thing for youtube! Afterwards we'll likely head off for dinner and keep up the nerdiness! I hope to see you there or virtually, both work! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder: WLUG Meeting March 10th, 2022! Topic: KiCAD
by Tim Keller 05 Mar '22

05 Mar '22

We've got a meeting on Thursday March 10th! Date & Time: March 10th, 2022 @ 7pm Location: Hudson Public Library and Jitsi at our usual haunt ( https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA) Topic: KiCAD EDA software Speaker(s): John Stoffel and Tim Keller This is going to be an in person and virtual meeting at the Hudson Public Library! The topic is KiCAD, a FOSS EDA (Electronic Design Automation) CAD tool. KiCAD is a computer aided design software package that enables you to create logical circuit diagrams and convert them into a PCBs (Printed Circuit Boards). This software is being used in the industry and has a vibrant community around it. The speaker for this talk is our own esteemed member John Stoffel with myself lending a hand. John and I will show up some of the features of the software, talk about how he's used it to create his own PCB's and give a quick demo. As always these days the entire meeting will be uploaded to our youtube channel. Snacks and Refreshments will be provided and afterwards we'll head out for dinner. I hope to see you there (even if only virtually!) Later, Tim.

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Changes to CentOS and its replacements
by Aljerin Butler,Jr. 13 Feb '22

13 Feb '22

At our last WLUG meeting there was some discussion about the changes from CentOS to CentOS Stream, plus replacements for CentOS. I picked off a few articles from my website that might help clear the air about the differences between the old and the new CentOS and how to migrate to one of its replacements. AlmaLinux vs CentOS CentOS Replacements For Your Production Linux Servers AlmaLinux’s ELevate Project Makes the Migration from CentOS 7 Easy Migrate To AlmaLinux 8 From CentOS 8 Using Almalinux-deploy Script

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Video is up on youtube!
by Tim Keller 11 Feb '22

11 Feb '22

Hey Gang, Bill gave a great presentation of fossil and what it can do. The video is up on youtube here: https://youtu.be/Zn_JTg3JDbI Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Reminder! WLUG Meeting tonight! Topic: Fossil!
by Tim Keller 10 Feb '22

10 Feb '22

Hey Everybody, We've got a virtual meeting tonight, Thursday February 10th. Time: 7pm Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Presenter: Bill Cattey Topic: Fossil - Github in a box! Long time member Bill Cattey will be giving a talk/demo about Fossil. From the website: https://www2.fossil-scm.org/ <https://www2.fossil-scm.org/> Fossil is a simple, high-reliability, distributed software configuration management system with many integrated advanced features, including things such as bug tracking, wiki, forum, email alerts, chat and tech notes. Many of us are daily users of various SCM systems, such as git, so it'll be great to see what other innovations in the SCM space are out there. I'll be recording this meeting and posting it on our youtube channel. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Virtual meeting this Thursday (2/10/22) Topic: Fossil - Github in a box!
by Tim Keller 08 Feb '22

08 Feb '22

Hey Everybody, We've got a virtual meeting on Thursday February 10th. Time: 7pm Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Presenter: Bill Cattey Topic: Fossil - Github in a box! Long time member Bill Cattey will be giving a talk/demo about Fossil. From the website: https://www2.fossil-scm.org/ <https://www2.fossil-scm.org/> Fossil is a simple, high-reliability, disturbed software configuration management system with many integrated advanced features, including things such as bug tracking, wiki, forum, email alerts, chat and tech notes. Many of us are daily users of various SCM systems, such as git, so it'll be great to see what other innovations in the SCM space are out there. I'll be recording this meeting and posting it on our youtube channel. Thanks, Tim.

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Re: Hey Everybody! We've got a meeting this week!
by Robert N. Evans 08 Feb '22

08 Feb '22

I don't think I would do an in-person meeting. - Bob Evans -----Original Message----- From: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion Sent: Feb 7, 2022 6:14 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion Cc: Tim Keller Subject: [WLUG] Hey Everybody! We've got a meeting this week! Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting on Thursday! As of right now I don't have anything lined up, but I'm working on it. If someone has something they're interested in talking about, please let me know. We'll definitely talk about the polkit fiasco! That's for sure. The next question is this.. Virtual or physical? What do people think? Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Hey Everybody! We've got a meeting this week!
by Tim Keller 07 Feb '22

07 Feb '22

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting on Thursday! As of right now I don't have anything lined up, but I'm working on it. If someone has something they're interested in talking about, please let me know. We'll definitely talk about the polkit fiasco! That's for sure. The next question is this.. Virtual or physical? What do people think? Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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"Emacs for fun and pro fit" posted to WLUG youtube channel.
by Tim Keller 18 Jan '22

18 Jan '22

This is the un-edited raw video, it's fun enough just as it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVy-kMSnaHc The talk starts at: https://youtu.be/cVy-kMSnaHc?t=245 Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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clean Linux install while keeping the same packages installed as before
by Chuck Anderson 16 Jan '22

16 Jan '22

I'm more familiar with Fedora where I do something like this. It should be possible to do the same in Ubuntu with the appropriate apt-get commands. 1. List all packages with their names only (no versions) on both the old system and newly installed system, assuming the new system is booted and the old system is mounted at /mnt/oldroot. Alternatively, do the first command (without the --root parameter) when booted to the old version and save the file somewhere: rpm -qa --qf='%{name}\n' --root=/mnt/oldroot | sort -u > old-pkglist.txt rpm -qa --qf='%{name}\n' | sort -u > new-pkglist.txt 2. Compare the files and save that output: diff -b -U0 {old,new}-pkglist.txt > old-new-diff.txt grep ^- old-new-diff.txt | cut -c2- > missing-from-new.txt grep ^+ old-new-diff.txt | cut -c2- > only-in-new.txt 3. Now go through the list and install what you want. I usually do this step manually rather than using some automated script, since there are many changes I don't necessarily want, such as shared libraries. All I really care about is applications/commands/utilities. I go through the lists, reading the diff in one window and installing stuff I want in another: dnf install a b c d ... and/or this which installs a package and all of its subpackages except development and debug subpackages. This is great when a package has a bunch of plugins I want: dnf --exclude='*devel*' --exclude='*debug*' install foo-\* ... Or you could curate the list, e.g. edit missing-from-new.txt keeping only the lines you care about, then automatically install everything that is in the curated list: cat missing-from-new-curated.txt | xargs dnf -y install > >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 3:47 PM gmcaplan--- via WLUG > >> <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >> > >> I was hoping to attend, but it looks like I will not be able to. > >> I hope it will be recorded because I, too, would like to learn about > >> emacs. > >> Also, I have two questions: > >> 1. I am running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. When I update to ver. 20 or 22, I > >> would prefer to do a "clean" re-install, but I have a question. Does > >> that mean I must get a list of all my installed software and > >> re-install > >> them one at a time after I upgrade the OS? If so, is there an > >> easy way > >> for me to get the list?

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Great meeting last night!
by Tim Keller 15 Jan '22

15 Jan '22

Hey Everybody, The meeting last night was amazing and Kalman showed us was a power emacs users looks like. I've downloaded the video, I'm going to trim it down a bit and upload the video to the wlug youtube account. Once it's uploaded I'll send out the link. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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