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RE: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest
by Martin, Eric March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

What are you looking for as far as help? -----Original Message----- From: Pete Wason [mailto:rogue@hynoom.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 8:49 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest Ryan Caron wrote: > As I mentioned in an earlier email, the Worcester Area Association for > Computing Machinery will be having a Linux Installfest on March 27th. > We are working under the assumption that many of the people that will > attend will want to keep their Windows installations as well. > Therefore, we need a nondestructive repartitioning software package. > It would also be nice if we could make an image of their hard drive > before we do anything so we can ensure the integrity of the data if > something were to go wrong. > > Unfortunately, the IT departments does not have copies of Partition > Magic or Ghost that we could use for the event. Does anybody have an > appropriately licensed copy of the software that we could use , or > know of Open Source / Freeware alternatives that are as reliable as > their commercial counterparts? Does someone's place of work have such > software that they would be willing for the ACM to use for the event? > Is anybody aware of Open Source / Freeware alternatives that are just > as reliable as these software packages (these systems will probably be > using NTFS, which is much more fickle than FAT32 when it comes to > these things) > > Any assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated, and the > ACM welcomes the WLUG to the Installfest on the 27th. > I own a copy of PartitionMagic 7.0 - not the latest, but I use it for client work and for my own machine from time to time. It seems to work fine on NTFS. I'm willing to loan a copy of it for the Installfest - let me know the details. On a related note, I'm still looking for some linuxy/networky help here at my place. I can't pay much, if anything, but maybe we could work out a deal. Latex, Pete Wason _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] DistCC
by Martin, Eric March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

Let me try and get a few things working in house, but I'm def up for trying...i have a PIII that can donate a few cycles.... -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Caron [mailto:rcaron@WPI.EDU] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:47 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] DistCC 1) are you referring to the log that distcc generaties via distcc-config --set-log ? Or are you referring to your compile screens? If the compile screens, then DistCC is working, it just doesn't display it. Try setting the log file and reviewing it after a compile 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything either, thats why i stick with the log. One disadvantage to the log is that it does not log date & time, which a friend of mine (the other guy on the distcc servers page) is trying to resolve. 3) I'm just doing x86 at this point, but I'll install cross compile support for you on my machines. 4) Just send me your server names and I will add them to my page. I'm thinking about writing a script that will parse a web page for server names and plug it into the distcc hosts variable. That way the network would be more dynamic to changes in the host lists. I'll keep you all posted. On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 "Martin, Eric" wrote Subject: RE: [Wlug] DistCC 1) I would like to, but I'm having problems getting distcc to work (I think). When I configure my clients, they will keep showing lines that *distcc can't find host 192.168.0.10*, but when that client is up, I don't get anything. I'm running gentoo on all my linux boxes, and I followed the distcc guide. 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything...any help? 3) Are you just doing x86 or do we want to try cross compiling, or have a few networks? I have a few x86s, a sparc64 and a ppcG3 all running gentoo. I'm trying to get cross compiling working, but like I said, I can't see if stuff is going or not. 4) I'm up for it. Share and Share alike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [Wlug] DistCC
by Ryan Caron March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

1) are you referring to the log that distcc generaties via distcc-config --set-log ? Or are you referring to your compile screens? If the compile screens, then DistCC is working, it just doesn't display it. Try setting the log file and reviewing it after a compile 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything either, thats why i stick with the log. One disadvantage to the log is that it does not log date & time, which a friend of mine (the other guy on the distcc servers page) is trying to resolve. 3) I'm just doing x86 at this point, but I'll install cross compile support for you on my machines. 4) Just send me your server names and I will add them to my page. I'm thinking about writing a script that will parse a web page for server names and plug it into the distcc hosts variable. That way the network would be more dynamic to changes in the host lists. I'll keep you all posted. On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 "Martin, Eric" wrote Subject: RE: [Wlug] DistCC 1) I would like to, but I'm having problems getting distcc to work (I think). When I configure my clients, they will keep showing lines that *distcc can't find host 192.168.0.10*, but when that client is up, I don't get anything. I'm running gentoo on all my linux boxes, and I followed the distcc guide. 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything...any help? 3) Are you just doing x86 or do we want to try cross compiling, or have a few networks? I have a few x86s, a sparc64 and a ppcG3 all running gentoo. I'm trying to get cross compiling working, but like I said, I can't see if stuff is going or not. 4) I'm up for it. Share and Share alike

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Gentoo...
by Ryan Caron March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

Whoa, didn't mean to start a mini flame war! I think the portage system does wonders with the dependencies, and as I understand it portage is very BSD-like (I don't have any experience with BSD yet) with their package system. OK, one box boots up in 24 seconds (from GRUB menu to XDM login), and the other in 16 seconds (GRUB to CLI login). Now, thats a lot faster than default Red Hat installs, which can take minutes on a similarly capable machine. A good part of the faster bootup is that my Gentoo installation is, at least for now, much leaner than Red Hat and doesn't have to load as many daemons. But major distros like Red Hat, for compatibility sake, compile their code (or at least used to) as i386 for compatibility. Some have moved to i586. But my gentoo box is specifically compiled for the P4 with O3 compile flag. So that does speed things up a bit. Also, I run seti@home 24/7 on my personal boxes, so I never have any idle CPU percentages. On Red Hat seti@home would slow me down when I was really working the computer's resources. Haven't seen that happen yet in Gentoo. So, maybe its not the compiles that make it faster. But the capability to customize it, its inherent leanness (do I really want to install this if it takes 4 hours to compile)?, and its package system make it my linux distro of choice. Ryan Caron ACM Secretary

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DistCC
by Ryan Caron March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

It appears that at least a couple people here are using Gentoo. I am working on building a DistCC (Distributed C Compiling) network so that our "emerge -u world" and Stage 1 installations go by that much quicker. It has substantially improved my installation time - my first Stage 1 install, which did not use Distcc took nearly 3 days (some downtime was incurred since I had to sleep and go to class). With only 2 Pentium 4's and 1 Pentium 3, I was able to cut that time down to about 24 hours - the installation was on my 1.6Ghz Celeron, so you know that most of the compiling capabilities wasn't done on that! If you would like to use the Distcc network I'm putting together to get your Gentoo box running or to make emerge -u world that much quicker, all I ask is that you please run the Distcc server on your machine as well. The list of servers, scheduled emerge -u world times, and a script I wrote to automatically do emerge -u world is available at: http://www.acm.wpi.edu/~rcaron/Gentoo.shtml Gentoo's HOW-TO on configuring DistCC is at: http://www.Gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml Please email me if you have any questions or would like to contribute to the network. Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary

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RE: [Wlug] DistCC
by Martin, Eric March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

1) I would like to, but I'm having problems getting distcc to work (I think). When I configure my clients, they will keep showing lines that *distcc can't find host 192.168.0.10*, but when that client is up, I don't get anything. I'm running gentoo on all my linux boxes, and I followed the distcc guide. 2) I can't get the monitor to see anything...any help? 3) Are you just doing x86 or do we want to try cross compiling, or have a few networks? I have a few x86s, a sparc64 and a ppcG3 all running gentoo. I'm trying to get cross compiling working, but like I said, I can't see if stuff is going or not. 4) I'm up for it. Share and Share alike -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Caron [mailto:rcaron@WPI.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:28 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] DistCC It appears that at least a couple people here are using Gentoo. I am working on building a DistCC (Distributed C Compiling) network so that our "emerge -u world" and Stage 1 installations go by that much quicker. It has substantially improved my installation time - my first Stage 1 install, which did not use Distcc took nearly 3 days (some downtime was incurred since I had to sleep and go to class). With only 2 Pentium 4's and 1 Pentium 3, I was able to cut that time down to about 24 hours - the installation was on my 1.6Ghz Celeron, so you know that most of the compiling capabilities wasn't done on that! If you would like to use the Distcc network I'm putting together to get your Gentoo box running or to make emerge -u world that much quicker, all I ask is that you please run the Distcc server on your machine as well. The list of servers, scheduled emerge -u world times, and a script I wrote to automatically do emerge -u world is available at: http://www.acm.wpi.edu/~rcaron/Gentoo.shtml Gentoo's HOW-TO on configuring DistCC is at: http://www.Gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml Please email me if you have any questions or would like to contribute to the network. Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest
by Martin, Eric March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

For me honestly, it has to do with the fact that I got sick and tired of RedHat. I got tired of *rpm -qa | grep (some dependancy)* Do I feel like it sped things up from redhat, yeah! Do I like the fact that I've learned a ton about linux, not RedHat, yeah. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing RH, its just that *I* used RPMS as way too much of a crutch.) I like that I had evolution w/o ldap support, said "oh, I must have forgotten that flag", fixed the flag, and recompilied. Portage dl'd ldap for me, I didn't have to worry about deps...that's where gentoo really takes it for me. Eric Ps, sorry for ranting on the list -----Original Message----- From: Scott Venier [mailto:scott@scooter.cx] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:57 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest Scott Venier said: > Thank you thank you thank you. > > I'm so sick of the gentoo weenies claiming that. > OK. I'll apologize for this one up front. That was supposed to be off list. Bad squirrelmail. Now for some justification so I don't seem like a total jerk. I've just read reports of using 3 days of CPU time to intall a gentoo system. My wimpy k6 system has over 98% idle cpu cycles - that's running i386 compiled debian code and a not totally trivial workload, it's a firewall, mail/web/dns server, and has a fair number of interactive users (15 as I write this, but it's still early in the day). My computer spends almost all of its time waiting for me. Any time that it doesn't spend waiting for me is spent waiting for I/O devices like disks and the network. If you want your computer to be faster, get yourself gobs of ram and run out of a ram disk. The cpu time is rarely the bottle. 3 days to save something that I'm only using 3% of... It's just not worth the hassle, imho. Scott _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest
by Martin, Eric March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

Very little, I couldn't get it to work right... -----Original Message----- From: Pete Wason [mailto:rogue@hynoom.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:15 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 03 March 2004 07:03 pm, Ryan Caron wrote: > >>Concerning your server, I would move to another distro. I personally >>use Gentoo, but for your applications you may want to go with Debian. >>I like Gentoo since its so customizable, and the fact that everything >>is compiled from the source code speeds up the computer a fair amount. > > > or perhaps move to fedora as that'll be the most redhat like (assuming > thats > what you want :]) Does anyone have any exp with YD? I always liked the *look* of their stuff ;-) Pete _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 5, Issue 2
by sageman＠WPI.EDU March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

That's great. It's especially funny because that image is lying on an MSNBC website. > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Can you spot the (one) syntax error? (Keith Wright) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 00:09:34 -0500 > From: Keith Wright <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com> > Subject: [Wlug] Can you spot the (one) syntax error? > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <200403020509.i2259Y1p002376(a)fcs10.free-comp-shop.com> > > > Here's a funny cartoon about how Microsoft has > syntax errors in their Pascal code (or something): > http://www.msnbc.com/comics/daily.asp?sFile=ft040301 > > -- Keith > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 5, Issue 2 > ********************************** > > >

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Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 5, Issue 3
by Ryan Caron March 3, 2004

March 3, 2004

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Surge Protectors (Not Linux Specific...) (Chuck Noyes) > 2. Repartitioning for Installfest (Ryan Caron) > 3. Re: Repartitioning for Installfest (Mike Frysinger) > 4. Re: Repartitioning for Installfest (frank p) > 5. Re: Repartitioning for Installfest (Pete Wason) > 6. RE: Repartitioning for Installfest (Martin, Eric) > 7. Re: Repartitioning for Installfest (Pete Wason) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 11:26:15 -0500 > From: Chuck Noyes <cc.noyes(a)verizon.net> > Subject: [Wlug] Surge Protectors (Not Linux Specific...) > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <opr38s91awvt4kk9(a)outgoing.verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi all, > > This is not Linux specific, but there must some EE types that can answer > my question. What's the REAL meaning of the Juole rating on > surge protectors? Is 3000 joules "better" than 2000 joules? > Is there a "minimum" joule rating that is considered > good enough for most common environments? > > Thanks for your help, > > -Chuck > >

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Setting up postfix and mailman
by Charles A. Haines March 3, 2004

March 3, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm trying to set up postfix and mailman on a gentoo linux box. I've followed the instructions for setting up postfix to use both /etc/mail/aliases and /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases for alias maps. I've configured mailman so it know it's using postfix for the MTA. I've created the mailman list and another list to test. However when I try and send mail to the list, I get the following error: Mar 3 14:35:55 carnation postfix/local[6154]: C39852E25C: to=<officers(a)tkezm.org>, relay=local, delay=0, status=bounced (unknown user: "officers") Now I know that receiving and sending mail works on this box because I've tested it for local users. Any help would be much appreciated since I'm at my wits end and I can't find anything else on the subject. Thanks, Chuck ===================================== Chuck Haines chaines(a)wpi.edu http://www.maxslack.com http://www.3gpub.com ===================================== Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity WPI ECE Systems Administrator WPI Game Development Club Developer WPI Linux Association Lab Manager ===================================== AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ===================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQEZDVdFwM2LH0zrYEQIm1wCg91LSk02w4srq7/hk4tsrfGQ4qesAniAr dDq/pXLDzP5Q0Mg7yzeWFkoT =O8Ha -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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by Joel Desrochers March 3, 2004

March 3, 2004

Pete, Consider ClarkConnect Home Edition V2.1. It is a RH based (V8 I think) server that inlcudes most of the functionallity you list. Very simple install. Easy modifications once running via a web browser. Updates are simple and free over the web from ClarkConnect. A few quick notes: 1) Clark includes the option of a multi-homed ethernet firewall also, which I never install. How can one box be both securing your network and a server for everything and the kitchen sink? It is best to keep the firewall separate. 2) They offer service packages also if support is needed. I have not tried this. 3) On any server, it is best to only install/run/configure the applications and services that are needed. http://www.clarkconnect.org/info/home.current.html Also contact me off list for either further questions on the above or discussing the possibility of networking/Linux help. Joel Desrochers >Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 11:27:37 -0500 >From: Pete Wason <rogue(a)hynoom.com> >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Message-ID: <40460779.7090306(a)hynoom.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Martin, Eric wrote: > > What are you looking for as far as help? > > > >I'm running RH8.0 on my server. > >a. I'm not sure if I should continue to use RH as support has expired, and >I >can't affort their enterprise version. > >b. I'm not sure of/satisfied with my Apache configuration > >c. I'm not sure of/satisfied with my Samba configuration > >d. I'm not sure of/satisfied with general file permissions as they relate >to (b >and c) > >e. I want to install tcpserver and qmail, and disable sendmail (which I'm >not >using anyway) > >Network: CAT-5 ethernet > >Server: Dell 600SC/RH8.0 (http, samba, sshd, etc.) > >Router: LinkSys BEFSR81, on a cablemodem... > >Wkstns: Pegasos I/Morphos 1.4 (samba server also, I think) > Clone PC/Win2000 Pro (windows shares, printer) > Amiga 3000D/AmigaOS3.1 (printer, accesses shares via smbfs) > Amiga 3000D/AmigaOS3.1 (smbfs) > Sony Vaio laptop/WinXP Home (windows shares) > >Questions, Comments: > >1. Is it normal that my http port should be getting hit hundreds of times a >day >with intrusion attacks aimed at an NT server? Strange days indeed... > >2. I also am constantly bombarded with hundreds of virus-infected spam >messages; right now I'm using a mailserver in NJ -- when I get mine set up, >I'll switch. > >3. I find it strange and somewhat disturbing that if I have my laptop >booted to >the logon screen, I can connect to its shares via samba - without a >password! >Is this normal (read: goofy) windows security? > >4. If I didn't have to spend all my time looking for a job, doing part-time >work on the side, and acting as non-paid VP of an ill-fated (so far) >software >startup, I could just hunker down and learn all this stuff myself. Right >now, >that's not an option. > >Pete _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Lightning-fast Internet access for as low as $29.95/month. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/

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RE: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest
by Martin, Eric March 3, 2004

March 3, 2004

As far as distros go, I use gentoo (www.gentoo.org) I switched when redhat8.0 wouldn't load on a server of mine. The forums on their website are amazing, and I haven't even had a problem that somebody couldn't fix. My suggestion is gentoo. I'm still a bit of a novice myself when it comes to Apache and Samba, so I'm prob not the guy for the job. If you had a bit of time maybe, but I'm still learning. What ver of windows are your running on your laptop? And just so you know, default installs of windows are horribly insecure. There's prob an account with a blank password somewhere, or you could be running 9x and they didn't even care about security then. Yeah, your http port will prob be getting hit daily with people trying to pull funny stuff, worms trying to hurt you, etc.. Sorry I can't be of anymore help...a decent samba referece is on O'Reilly's openbooks site, www.oreilly.com/opnebook; Using Samba, 2ed. Eric -----Original Message----- From: Pete Wason [mailto:rogue@hynoom.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:28 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest Martin, Eric wrote: > What are you looking for as far as help? > I'm running RH8.0 on my server. a. I'm not sure if I should continue to use RH as support has expired, and I can't affort their enterprise version. b. I'm not sure of/satisfied with my Apache configuration c. I'm not sure of/satisfied with my Samba configuration d. I'm not sure of/satisfied with general file permissions as they relate to (b and c) e. I want to install tcpserver and qmail, and disable sendmail (which I'm not using anyway) Network: CAT-5 ethernet Server: Dell 600SC/RH8.0 (http, samba, sshd, etc.) Router: LinkSys BEFSR81, on a cablemodem... Wkstns: Pegasos I/Morphos 1.4 (samba server also, I think) Clone PC/Win2000 Pro (windows shares, printer) Amiga 3000D/AmigaOS3.1 (printer, accesses shares via smbfs) Amiga 3000D/AmigaOS3.1 (smbfs) Sony Vaio laptop/WinXP Home (windows shares) Questions, Comments: 1. Is it normal that my http port should be getting hit hundreds of times a day with intrusion attacks aimed at an NT server? Strange days indeed... 2. I also am constantly bombarded with hundreds of virus-infected spam messages; right now I'm using a mailserver in NJ -- when I get mine set up, I'll switch. 3. I find it strange and somewhat disturbing that if I have my laptop booted to the logon screen, I can connect to its shares via samba - without a password! Is this normal (read: goofy) windows security? 4. If I didn't have to spend all my time looking for a job, doing part-time work on the side, and acting as non-paid VP of an ill-fated (so far) software startup, I could just hunker down and learn all this stuff myself. Right now, that's not an option. Pete _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Repartitioning for Installfest
by Ryan Caron March 3, 2004

March 3, 2004

As I mentioned in an earlier email, the Worcester Area Association for Computing Machinery will be having a Linux Installfest on March 27th. We are working under the assumption that many of the people that will attend will want to keep their Windows installations as well. Therefore, we need a nondestructive repartitioning software package. It would also be nice if we could make an image of their hard drive before we do anything so we can ensure the integrity of the data if something were to go wrong. Unfortunately, the IT departments does not have copies of Partition Magic or Ghost that we could use for the event. Does anybody have an appropriately licensed copy of the software that we could use , or know of Open Source / Freeware alternatives that are as reliable as their commercial counterparts? Does someone's place of work have such software that they would be willing for the ACM to use for the event? Is anybody aware of Open Source / Freeware alternatives that are just as reliable as these software packages (these systems will probably be using NTFS, which is much more fickle than FAT32 when it comes to these things) Any assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated, and the ACM welcomes the WLUG to the Installfest on the 27th. Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary

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Surge Protectors (Not Linux Specific...)
by Chuck Noyes March 2, 2004

March 2, 2004

Hi all, This is not Linux specific, but there must some EE types that can answer my question. What's the REAL meaning of the Juole rating on surge protectors? Is 3000 joules "better" than 2000 joules? Is there a "minimum" joule rating that is considered good enough for most common environments? Thanks for your help, -Chuck -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

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Can you spot the (one) syntax error?
by Keith Wright March 2, 2004

March 2, 2004

Here's a funny cartoon about how Microsoft has syntax errors in their Pascal code (or something): http://www.msnbc.com/comics/daily.asp?sFile=ft040301 -- Keith

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FYI: Linux Training Seminar
by Al Reinhart Feb. 29, 2004

Feb. 29, 2004

The Greater Boston Network Users Group presents AN INTRODUCTION TO LINUX an intensive learning experience for network professionals The Greater Boston Network Users Group presents another of its popular full-day "bootcamp" intensive training seminars. This time the topic is an introduction to Linux for network professionals. This program will be taught by experienced instructors and provide you with a strong basic understanding of the Linux operating system. As part of the program, you will be given your own CD-ROM containing a fully functional Linux operating system which you can take home and install on your own personal computer. Saturday, March 20, 2004 8:30AM to 4:30PM Continental breakfast, lunch and afternoon snack included. Carlson Auditorium Mount Ida College 777 Dedham Street Newton, Massachusetts Directions can be found here: http://www.mountida.edu/sp.cfm?pageid=373 The program will consist of four sessions, each taught by experts in their fields: Session 1 Introduction to Linux and considerations in selecting a Linux distribution. Session 2 Basic Linux Commands, common directories and file structures. Session 3 Advanced Applications including networking and desktop applications. Session 4 System Administration: user accounts, privileges, and security considerations. The full cost of the seminar, including all instructional materials and Linux CD-ROM is $100 in advance or $115 at the door. Advance reservations must be received no later than Friday, March 13. No refunds for cancellations received after that date. To register conveniently on line using your credit card through PayPal, go to the BNUG web page: http://www.bnug.org/linux.htm Or print out the registration form below and mail it with a check to: Boston Network Users Group 9 Ross Road - Dept. T Lexington, MA 02421 This is an educational seminar and NOT a vendor presentation. BNUG intensive training seminars have been called the biggest training bargain in New England. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Mail-in Registration Form AN INTRODUCTION TO LINUX Carlson Auditorium Mount Ida College 777 Dedham Street Newton, Massachusetts Saturday, March 20, 2004 Yes! I would like to attend the Greater Boston Network Users Group seminar "Introduction to Linux" which will be held on the campus of Mount Ida College in Newton on March 20, 2004. The full cost of this seminar, including all instructional materials and Linux CD-ROM is $100 payable in advance. I understand that advance reservations must be received no later than Friday, March 13 and that there will be no refunds for cancellations received after that date. (Those without advance registration will be charged $115 at the door for admission to the seminar, subject to available space.) Space is limited! Mail this form with your check today! ___________________________________________________ Your Name ___________________________________________________ Your Mailing Address ___________________________________________________ City State Zip ___________________________________________________ Work Phone Home Phone ___________________________________________________ Email address Company affiliation Are you a member of BNUG? [ ] YES [ ] NO To register by mail print out this form and mail it with a check for $100 to: Introduction to Linux Boston Network Users Group 9 Ross Road - Dept. T Lexington, MA 02421 (DO NOT MAIL THIS FORM TO MOUNT IDA COLLEGE!) Note: This educational seminar is designed to help computer networking professionals and others in related fields maintain and enhance their technical skills. The cost of this seminar may be reimbursable by your company or deductible for tax purposes. Check with your employer or tax advisor. Greater Boston Network Users Group 2004. All rights reserved.

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Re: [Wlug] Jenny
by frank p Feb. 28, 2004

Feb. 28, 2004

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Jenny
by cra＠WPI.EDU Feb. 28, 2004

Feb. 28, 2004

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You really love me? he he
by cra＠WPI.EDU Feb. 28, 2004

Feb. 28, 2004

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ACM Installfest
by Ryan Caron Feb. 23, 2004

Feb. 23, 2004

The Worcester Area Student Chapter of the Association for Computing Machinery will be hosting an Installfest on March 27th from 6-9PM. It will be on WPI Campus in Higgins Lab 116. Veterans and newbies to Linux are welcome! If you are an experienced user, we will start setting up at 5PM, and you are welcome to show up then. We will be advertising heavily around campus, so hopefully we can attract some new users! We will be distributing and installing Mandrake, Debian, Knoppix, and Gentoo, although more distributions are certainly welcome. To recap: WHO: ACM WHAT: Installfest WHEN: 3/27/04 6-9PM WHERE: HL 116 Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary

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Reminder: Upcoming WLUG meeting
by Andy Stewart Feb. 23, 2004

Feb. 23, 2004

Hi everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held at 7:00 PM on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 at the usual place (the Access Grid room, WPI campus, Worcester, MA USA). Detailed directions can be found on the WLUG webpage. At this meeting, our featured speaker is J.D. "Illiad" Frazer, the author of the comic strip UserFriendly. You can read the comic strip at http:// www.userfriendly.org. There are more details, such as biographical information, and an explanation of the comic strip's characters, linked from the WLUG home page. This meeting will be broadcast onto the Access Grid. For those who don't know, the Access Grid can be considered to be video conferencing on steroids. Read more about it at this site: http://www.accessgrid.org. There are only a few such sites in all of New England, but there are almost 200 sites worldwide: Boston University Worcester Polytechnic Institute Dartmouth Univ. of Maine - Orono I am going to try to get to Softpro and see if I can pick up a couple of UserFriendly books for the raffle. As usual, light refreshments will be served. After the meeting, we'll adjourn to some local restaurant. I'm not sure, but I think the Boynton Restaurant is still undergoing major renovations and is thus closed. In that event, we can probably go to the mexican place (Tortilla Sams, I think its called). Get there early...there are only 25 seats... :-) See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

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another acronym
by doug waud Feb. 19, 2004

Feb. 19, 2004

Hi all A friend sent me the following. Thought you guys might enjoy it. I was having trouble with my computer. So I called the computer guy, to come over. He clicked a couple of buttons and solved the problem and gave me a bill for a minimum service call. As he was walking away, I called after him, "So, what was wrong?" He replied, "It was an `ID ten T' error." I didn't want to appear stupid, but nonetheless inquired: "An, ID ten T error? What's that .... In case I need to fix it again?" "Write it down," he said, "and I think you'll figure it out." So I wrote out ...... I D 1 0 T

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Something very cool...
by Keller, Tim Feb. 17, 2004

Feb. 17, 2004

I just saw this on one of the other lists I'm on and I'm testing it out and it seems to work. http://shfs.sourceforge.net/ It lets you mount a remote filesystem over an SSH link. ala mount -t shfs root@someserver /mnt/localmntpnt Very cool. Tim.

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by Clint Moyer Feb. 11, 2004

Feb. 11, 2004

Hi. I bought a Ximeta Netdisk (http://ximeta.com/products/netdisk.html) which is an external HDD with both USB and network connectivity. The company explicitly states that the device works with Red Hat 8 and 9, but I've had no luck with it. The drivers are available only as RPMs, no source provided. It's network attached, but it doesn't use a standard protocol. The RPM is supposed to install two modules, nd.o and lpx.o, but they don't show up with lsmod. When I try to load them with insmod or modprobe, I get a bunch of error messages about "unresolved symbols". I though it may have been a dependency problem, so I recompiled to load network block device (nbd.o), but that had no effect. I've tried both RH 8 and 9 fresh stock installs with the same results. Ximeta has stated that they will provide me a new driver, but I'm not holding my breath. Any suggestions? Thanks.

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