Hello.. I am trying to make my firefox work with my Thunderbird
but I dont understand one thing
when you say.... Change the paths to point to this executable shell script:
How do you do this ... is this a file or do you do it in konsole and
what is the path that you should change it too ..
thanks for your help .. and please forgive that i am a newbie
Prob the automounter... There should be a dir /mnt/auto? I know knoppix
uses that a lot
-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:gma2004@verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:32 PM
To: Worcester Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Wlug] mounting a pen drive (usb)
SuSE 9.1 will automatically mount and unmount a pen drive, floppy disk or
cd. I haven't yet figured out how it does that.
Greg
Ryan Caron wrote:
> Assuming you do not have any other usb devices hooked up to your
> laptop,
> adding the following line to your /etc/fstab will allow you to mount and
> use your pen drive as a non-root user:
>
> /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 vfat user,noauto,exec 0 0
>
> Using this method, you will have to type "mount /mnt/sda1" when you
> insert
> it and "umount /mnt/sda1" when you are done.
>
> I cannot stress how important it is to unmount! Failure to do so will
> either leave your pen drive without the changes you made or with data
> corruption (I know this from experience)
>
> If anybody knows of a way for linux to mount automatically do this I
> am
> all ears (switching the noauto parameter to auto doesn't do the trick).
>
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Caron
>
>
>
>>Message: 7
>>Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:55:05 -0400
>>From: Walt Sawyer <wsawyer(a)norfolk-county.com>
>>Subject: [Wlug] mountng a pen drive (usb)
>>To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
>>Message-ID: <1097762105.2591.9.camel(a)localhost.localdomain>
>>Content-Type: text/plain
>>
>>How do I get my SanDisk cruzer mini 256 mb pen drive to mount on my
>>Fedora Core 2 laptop? Thanks in advance
>>Walt
>
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Jeff,
Thanx for the continued feedback and suggestions, RHCM sounds cool
but, I've read through some of the bug tracks on it and it sounds like
there are some bad corruption problems when using it. It also sounds
like there can be a considerable lag in the time it takes for the shares
to come up on the secondary server. Are there many people using this in
a production environment?
Thanx,
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Moyer
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:48 PM
To: Worcester Linux Users Group
Subject: RE: [Wlug] NFS question
==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] NFS question; "John Stoffel"
<stoffel(a)lucent.com> adds:
Don> Thanx for the info John. Unfortunately I can't use the Red Hat
Don> GFS, it requires v3.0 and we cannot upgrade to that yet.
stoffel> Since it's open source, can't you get it from
stoffel> http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/gfs/ and see if it will
stoffel> install on your systems?
Sounds like he wants a supported solution.
Don> I have been pushing for it, but Oracle won't give me an definite
Don> answer as to whether their apps are certified for RH 3.0.
stoffel> That's silly, but very understandable. From looking at your
stoffel> corp website, I can see why you're interested in only deploying
stoffel> supportable systems, esp in such a production environment.
Don> We could go with Veritas' Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC, but
Don> that would require considerable change, and no one here knows the
software.
Don> For the time being I'll probably have to go with a NAS device and
Don> make it as redundant as possible.
stoffel> I know Veritas. :] And I'm looking for a job. :] Well, I know
stoffel> VxVM/VxFS quite well and I've been exposed to their Clustering
stoffel> software as well. Good stuff all around.
stoffel> But that doesn't solve the question here, which is how to get a
stoffel> good reliable NFS file storage (would the storage be on the
stoffel> SAN, or local to the server) for a good price.
stoffel> Here's a thought, but a pair of cheap 2U servers and install
stoffel> RHEL 3.0 along with the GFS filesystem and clustering software.
stoffel> Export via NFS to the other servers. If one node goes down,
stoffel> you've got a backup and failover. And it would give you
stoffel> exposure/experience with RHEL 3.0, GFS and clustering so you
stoffel> would be working to migrate the Oracle instances to the same
stoffel> type of setup down the road.
If you only need to server NFS, then you can do this without GFS. You
can use GFS, and it will mean that clients can mount from either server,
but it sounds like overkill for this case. You simply want failover of
NFS filesystems, and that can be accomplished quite easily with AS 2.1
and RHCM. In fact, you can probably work this into your existing
environment without buying any more hardware (and I think without
purchasing new software licenses, too).
-Jeff
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How do I get my SanDisk cruzer mini 256 mb pen drive to mount on my
Fedora Core 2 laptop?
Check to see if the pen has already been recognized by hotplug by checking for an entry in /etc/fstab
If there is not an entry there, check to see if the OS recognizes the pen. Lots of places to check..
cat /etc/proc/scsi/scsi
you should see:
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
Vendor: SanDisk Model: Cruzer Mini Rev: 0.1
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
or look for it in dmesg:
dmesg | grep San
Vendor: SanDisk Model: Cruzer Mini Rev: 0.1
or in /etc/sysconfig/hwconf:
grep San hwconf
desc: "SanDisk Corporation Cruzer Mini"
usbmfr: SanDisk Corporation
desc: "Sandisk Cruzer Mini"
If the OS recognizes the pen, most likely updfstab does not have an entry for it. For RH9, entries for updfstab are in /etc/updfstab.conf.default
This is the file hotplug uses to know what to write to the fstab file so you can mount the pen.
I added an entry to the "flash" stanza:
device flash {
partition 1
match hd CompactFlash
match hd ImageMate
match hd SanDisk
match hd "USB Drive"
Once you add that, look in the fstab file to see if hotplug worked.
You will still have to mount it, it should show up as /mnt/flash
-Gina
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Cool,
If there are any left I would love g-mail account as well!
Arturo
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 07:46:08 -0400
> From: Brett Russ <icycle(a)charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
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> Micheal Bonner wrote:
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>> I will Take one if you are handing them out please ... I would love to
>> have one .. thanks. just Email what I need to do personal .. if not ..
>> then thank you anyway
>
> Sent!
> BR
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:48:54 -0400
> From: "JONATHAN BEALL" <joncbeall(a)hotmail.com>
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> From: "Don Peterson" <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com>
> Subject: RE: [Wlug] gmail invites
> To: "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
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> I would love one too if you guys have any left.
> Thanx in advance...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
> Behalf Of Brett Russ
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:49 PM
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> Minkov, Ross wrote:
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>> I could use one gmail invite... If there are any left...?
>>
>>
>>
> Sent!
> BR
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:20:43 -0400
> From: Casey Rankin <caseyrankin(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
> Message-ID: <cd5bf44b041014062073122d74(a)mail.gmail.com>
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> sent.
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:48:54 -0400, JONATHAN BEALL
> <joncbeall(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> if anyone has an extra it would be greatly appreciated, hotmail is killing
>> me lately.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Jonathan Beall
>>
>>
>>> From: Micheal Bonner <BiggDaddyCool(a)peoplepc.com>
>>> Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
>>> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
>>> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 06:03:03 -0400
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Minkov, Ross wrote:
>>>
>>>> I could use one gmail invite... If there are any left...?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ross
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org
>>>> [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Chuck Haines
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:28 PM
>>>> To: Worcester Linux Users Group
>>>> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yea, I got 8 of them.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:42:12 -0400, Mike Frysinger
>>>> <vapier(a)gentoo.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday 15 September 2004 06:35 pm, Brett Russ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have some to distribute. FCFS, serious inquiries only :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> yeah, i got 6 spare ones too
>>>>> -mike
>>>>>
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>>>> I will Take one if you are handing them out please ... I would love
>>>> to have one .. thanks. just Email what I need to do personal .. if
>>>> not .. then thank you anyway
>>>>
>>>
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> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:21:27 -0400
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> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:13:18 -0400, Don Peterson
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>> I would love one too if you guys have any left.
>> Thanx in advance...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
>> Behalf Of Brett Russ
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:49 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
>>
>> Minkov, Ross wrote:
>>
>>> I could use one gmail invite... If there are any left...?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Sent!
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> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:24:49 -0400
> From: "Don Peterson" <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com>
> Subject: RE: [Wlug] NFS question
> To: <jmoyer(a)redhat.com>, "Worcester Linux Users Group"
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> Jeff,
> Thanx for the continued feedback and suggestions, RHCM sounds cool
> but, I've read through some of the bug tracks on it and it sounds like
> there are some bad corruption problems when using it. It also sounds
> like there can be a considerable lag in the time it takes for the shares
> to come up on the secondary server. Are there many people using this in
> a production environment?
> Thanx,
> Don
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Moyer
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:48 PM
> To: Worcester Linux Users Group
> Subject: RE: [Wlug] NFS question
>
> ==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] NFS question; "John Stoffel"
> <stoffel(a)lucent.com> adds:
>
> Don> Thanx for the info John. Unfortunately I can't use the Red Hat
> Don> GFS, it requires v3.0 and we cannot upgrade to that yet.
>
> stoffel> Since it's open source, can't you get it from
> stoffel> http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/gfs/ and see if it will
> stoffel> install on your systems?
>
> Sounds like he wants a supported solution.
>
> Don> I have been pushing for it, but Oracle won't give me an definite
> Don> answer as to whether their apps are certified for RH 3.0.
>
> stoffel> That's silly, but very understandable. From looking at your
> stoffel> corp website, I can see why you're interested in only deploying
>
> stoffel> supportable systems, esp in such a production environment.
>
> Don> We could go with Veritas' Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC, but
> Don> that would require considerable change, and no one here knows the
> software.
> Don> For the time being I'll probably have to go with a NAS device and
> Don> make it as redundant as possible.
>
> stoffel> I know Veritas. :] And I'm looking for a job. :] Well, I know
>
> stoffel> VxVM/VxFS quite well and I've been exposed to their Clustering
> stoffel> software as well. Good stuff all around.
>
> stoffel> But that doesn't solve the question here, which is how to get a
>
> stoffel> good reliable NFS file storage (would the storage be on the
> stoffel> SAN, or local to the server) for a good price.
>
> stoffel> Here's a thought, but a pair of cheap 2U servers and install
> stoffel> RHEL 3.0 along with the GFS filesystem and clustering software.
>
> stoffel> Export via NFS to the other servers. If one node goes down,
> stoffel> you've got a backup and failover. And it would give you
> stoffel> exposure/experience with RHEL 3.0, GFS and clustering so you
> stoffel> would be working to migrate the Oracle instances to the same
> stoffel> type of setup down the road.
>
> If you only need to server NFS, then you can do this without GFS. You
> can use GFS, and it will mean that clients can mount from either server,
> but it sounds like overkill for this case. You simply want failover of
> NFS filesystems, and that can be accomplished quite easily with AS 2.1
> and RHCM. In fact, you can probably work this into your existing
> environment without buying any more hardware (and I think without
> purchasing new software licenses, too).
>
> -Jeff
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:55:05 -0400
> From: Walt Sawyer <wsawyer(a)norfolk-county.com>
> Subject: [Wlug] mountng a pen drive (usb)
> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
> Message-ID: <1097762105.2591.9.camel(a)localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> How do I get my SanDisk cruzer mini 256 mb pen drive to mount on my
> Fedora Core 2 laptop?
> Thanks in advance
> Walt
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:09:56 -0400
> From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com>
> Subject: RE: [Wlug] NFS question
> To: "Don Peterson" <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com>
> Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
> Message-ID: <16750.34996.638953.41770(a)segfault.boston.redhat.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> ==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] NFS question; "Don Peterson"
> <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com> adds:
>
> dpeterson> Jeff, Thanx for the continued feedback and suggestions, RHCM
> dpeterson> sounds cool but, I've read through some of the bug tracks on it
> dpeterson> and it sounds like there are some bad corruption problems when
> dpeterson> using it. It also sounds like there can be a considerable lag
> dpeterson> in the time it takes for the shares to come up on the secondary
> dpeterson> server. Are there many people using this in a production
> dpeterson> environment?
>
> Are you certain you are looking at the right product? In bugzilla, query
> Product: Red Hat Enterprise Linux
> Version: 2.1AS
> Component: clumanager
>
> There are no open bugs. You are probably looking at the clustering
> infrastructure related to GFS, which is a very new offerring for Red Hat.
>
> There are at least hundreds of deployments of AS2.1 and clumanager. As for
> the lag, it is, of course, configurable (at least it was last I worked on
> it, several years ago). There are a couple of components to this, of
> course. First, how long does it take to detect a failure, and second, how
> long does it take for application/filesystem recovery. Using a journaled
> filesystem, you will see fairly quick recovery times on that end. To
> simply failover NFS, you won't be looking at too much overhead.
>
> The one hardware component you may need to buy would be a fencing device.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> -Jeff
>
> dpeterson> -----Original Message-----
> From> wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
> dpeterson> Behalf Of Jeff Moyer
> Sent> Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:48 PM
> To> Worcester Linux Users Group
> Subject> RE: [Wlug] NFS question
>
> ==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] NFS question; "John Stoffel"
>>> stoffel(a)lucent.com> adds:
>
> Don> Thanx for the info John. Unfortunately I can't use the Red Hat GFS,
> Don> it requires v3.0 and we cannot upgrade to that yet.
>
> stoffel> Since it's open source, can't you get it from
> stoffel> http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/gfs/ and see if it will install
> stoffel> on your systems?
>
> dpeterson> Sounds like he wants a supported solution.
>
> Don> I have been pushing for it, but Oracle won't give me an definite
> Don> answer as to whether their apps are certified for RH 3.0.
>
> stoffel> That's silly, but very understandable. From looking at your corp
> stoffel> website, I can see why you're interested in only deploying
>
> stoffel> supportable systems, esp in such a production environment.
>
> Don> We could go with Veritas' Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC, but that
> Don> would require considerable change, and no one here knows the
> dpeterson> software.
> Don> For the time being I'll probably have to go with a NAS device and make
> Don> it as redundant as possible.
>
> stoffel> I know Veritas. :] And I'm looking for a job. :] Well, I know
>
> stoffel> VxVM/VxFS quite well and I've been exposed to their Clustering
> stoffel> software as well. Good stuff all around.
>
> stoffel> But that doesn't solve the question here, which is how to get a
>
> stoffel> good reliable NFS file storage (would the storage be on the SAN,
> stoffel> or local to the server) for a good price.
>
> stoffel> Here's a thought, but a pair of cheap 2U servers and install RHEL
> stoffel> 3.0 along with the GFS filesystem and clustering software.
>
> stoffel> Export via NFS to the other servers. If one node goes down,
> stoffel> you've got a backup and failover. And it would give you
> stoffel> exposure/experience with RHEL 3.0, GFS and clustering so you would
> stoffel> be working to migrate the Oracle instances to the same type of
> stoffel> setup down the road.
>
> dpeterson> If you only need to server NFS, then you can do this without
> dpeterson> GFS. You can use GFS, and it will mean that clients can mount
> dpeterson> from either server, but it sounds like overkill for this case.
> dpeterson> You simply want failover of NFS filesystems, and that can be
> dpeterson> accomplished quite easily with AS 2.1 and RHCM. In fact, you
> dpeterson> can probably work this into your existing environment without
> dpeterson> buying any more hardware (and I think without purchasing new
> dpeterson> software licenses, too).
>
> dpeterson> -Jeff _______________________________________________ Wlug
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Howdy,
Thanks to everyone who helped with the linux install at the Worcester
Computer Co Op. We got alot done. Im working on the "problem children"
right now.
what was the process for running the install script in knoppix?
p
I would love one too if you guys have any left.
Thanx in advance...
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:49 PM
To: Worcester Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
Minkov, Ross wrote:
>I could use one gmail invite... If there are any left...?
>
>
>
Sent!
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I could use one gmail invite... If there are any left...?
Thanks,
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Haines
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:28 PM
To: Worcester Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
Yea, I got 8 of them.
Chuck
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:42:12 -0400, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org>
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> On Wednesday 15 September 2004 06:35 pm, Brett Russ wrote:
> > I have some to distribute. FCFS, serious inquiries only :-)
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> yeah, i got 6 spare ones too
> -mike
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Thanx for the info John. Unfortunately I can't use the Red Hat GFS, it
requires v3.0 and we cannot upgrade to that yet.
I have been pushing for it, but Oracle won't give me an definite answer
as to whether their apps are certified for RH 3.0.
We could go with Veritas' Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC, but that
would require considerable change, and no one here knows the software.
For the time being I'll probably have to go with a NAS device and make
it as redundant as possible.
-----Original Message-----
From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
Behalf Of John Stoffel
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 9:28 AM
To: Worcester Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Wlug] NFS question
Don> I have an Oracle 9i RAC set up consisting of 3 database servers,
Don> two apps servers and an EMC Clarion CX700 SAN. The servers are all
Don> running Red Hat 2.1, the db servers are at kernel .34 and the apps
Don> servers are at .49. I have 5 nfs mount points shared out by the
Don> first database server.
This is the problem, the fact that you're using NFS in a clustered
environment. Have you looked into using a Cluster Filesystem for your
needs? Some options would be:
http://www.redhat.com/software/rha/gfs/
It even mentions Oracle 9i in the blurb.
Don> One mount point is for logs from the database servers (only they
Don> connect to it),
Why do they all need to log to one filesystem? Can't they log locally
and if you want to aggregate the logs, you could rsync them hourly from
the servers to a central log host.
Don> and the others are for miscellaneous files and storage. We have
Don> been doing failover testing, shutting down a database server and
Don> seeing if the other two keep processing requests. We have a
Don> problem when we shut down the first database server, the one
Don> sharing the nfs volumes. The other two servers just hang trying to
Don> connect to the shares. I have tried every option in my fstab file
Don> to make the servers stop trying to reach the nfs shares if the
Don> server is not available, but nothing has worked. Here is one of
Don> the lines from the fstab file where I mount a share:
Yeah, what you're trying to do isn't going to work without either:
1. moving to a Cluster Filesystem so that all hosts and read/write to
the same filesystem on the Clarrion SAN concurrently.
2. moving to a Cluster setup where you have TWO servers in a cluster,
and the cluster provides the NFS file service to other servers.
3. Getting a NAS box which provides NFS service to the DB servers and
which has the require reliability you need.
I personally like NetApps, but they can be pricey. But even with a
single head, they're reliable and run well. I had one box with an
uptime of almost 500 days. Oh yeah, UPS and Generator backup helps as
well. *grin*
You could get away with using another cheaper NAS, but since you spent
the money on the SAN, why not just use that and GFS to provide the
storage you need. Esp if most of the filesystems you provide are read
(mostly) then you shouldn't have many problems.
John
John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent
Technologies
stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-952-7548
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